WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys Break: Preseason Ends & Roster Predictions 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:06.200 This This is the Talking Cowboys break streaming live on 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.119 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys app. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:15.000 What's Up. Welcome inside the s WBC Mortgage Studio. Welcome 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.720 to The Talking Cowboys break and Welcome to the end 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:23.560 of preseason. Who mercifully whoa? We got the whole crew. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.880 We got a special crew in today Rob Phillips joined 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.920 by an all star cast, Nick Even, Mickey Spagnola, David Hellman, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.919 Kent Garrison producing. I want to break down an All 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.120 Star game last night, No no, I said thirty seconds 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.200 on Twitter. What do you think is that time? Twenty 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.640 five too many to me? Well, let's move on. Let's 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.879 start talking regular season stuff. Let's do that for the 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.080 next hour. You guys can give us a call if 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.919 you would like. I don't know the phone number, Ken, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.199 I know it's changed from training camp. It's eight eight 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.120 eight eight five two nine seven. Oh. It was a 0:00:55.160 --> 0:01:00.000 call this morning, the old reliable. All right, how is everybody? 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.520 But he made it back and some some transportation. Yes, yeah, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.440 I'm great man. Got six good hours asleep, Got get 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.800 your purple and gold on some breakfast tacos LSU plays 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.919 here in Dallas and forty eight hours. I'm ready to go. Okay, Yeah, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.800 everybody good? Nick? No, whoa tired? Okay? Okay, I like 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.120 your honesty, man, I'm gonna be honest. All right, Nick 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.040 just landed hustled on over here. I'm good. We're good. Yeah. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.600 Well I'm good too, because we have like some substance 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.360 to get into now, you know, And not that these 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.360 last four games weren't, but I think we entered last 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.600 night's game. By the way Cowboys lose fourteen to six 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.640 to the Texans in Houston last night in the preseason finale, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.920 I think we knew most of the spots that were 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.640 potentially up for grabs out of the fifty three and uh, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.960 I don't know if anybody really want a spot last night. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.720 We can get into that, but we can also move 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.160 forward and see what's next for this team as they 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:56.920 start to get ready for Carolina in a few days. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.400 I mean, I think that when you look at what 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.320 they tried to do, it sounds like, you know, first 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.880 play of the game, they just threw the ball deep 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.360 to Lenore. It was like they're gonna give Lance Lenore 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.240 an opportunity to do something. It sounded like they had 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.160 their minds made up, or looked like it with Deonte Thompson. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.320 But change our mind. You know, Lance, we were gonna 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:17.760 throw you the ball a lot. We're gonna make you 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.640 do some punt returns a lot. And I don't know 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.440 if he had a decent game number wise, but I 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.799 still don't ten catches, I mean nine catches, sixty nine 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.320 yards that was. He was the star of the game, Dave. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.960 I mean, it's if you want to call, if you 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.560 if you could get it, if you could have a 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.200 takeaway from what actually happened on the field other than 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.880 this sucks. It was that they clearly wanted to put 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.320 Lance on tape. Do I mean he did punts? I 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.279 think he even did some kicks. He covered kicks and punts. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:50.120 He got nine receptions. They wore him out, Hey, yeah 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.000 they I mean he worked for it, he earned his 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.440 preseason paycheck, and we'll see what it means for him. Honestly, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.919 I don't even know if changed my change their minds 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.200 the right word, because me personally, I think Deante Thompson's 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.720 on this team regardless. I mean, if he really maybe 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.040 he could really convince him to take seven receivers instead 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.200 of six. But but I don't know. UM, we'll see, 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.680 we'll see what it means for him. If I had 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.160 to guess, it's gonna be a waiver situation for him 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.400 where maybe he stays here on the practice squad, or 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.320 maybe he's put something that That's the thing we don't 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.680 talk about a lot either, is that he might be 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.320 putting a resume out there for somebody else. You know, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.079 Lance Lenore could be a Arizona cardinal by this time 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.000 at the end of the weekend, for sure. Cuts on Saturday, Mick, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.760 they gotta cut this thing down from I think they're 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:40.560 at eighty nine right now. Can you keep seven receivers 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.000 in four tight ends? I feel like if a running 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:49.080 team just you, you absolutely could you could. But why 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.160 expect not just a running team, But like, have they 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 really been that amazing all the way through the depth 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.280 chart at either position? I don't think so. It's almost 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.720 like they're just so average at both positions that you 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.720 just might as well keep a bunch and hope something sticks. Yeah, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.760 this is Brian's argument on our show that why would 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.200 you keep seven, Mick when nobody's really separating themselves. It's 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.320 not like you've got seven alpha's in that group, you 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.599 kind of got a bunch of guys some some have 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:25.279 shown some things and some you know, they're they're rotation guys. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.200 At this point, nobody's really surfaced, So I don't know. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.440 And and then you factor in three quarterbacks too, because 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.080 I don't think Mike White has done anything in these 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.839 last couple of games to say, oh, we shouldn't keep him. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.760 I think he's shown enough to me in the last 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.680 two games where he can you can develop him now 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:45.800 the backup spot, I don't. I would. I don't know. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.920 I would sign a backup quarterback. You're there, You're there now. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.359 I mean, that's to me. That's another takeaway from last night. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.440 Cooper Rush gets the start again for Dak who's rested 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.200 and struggles again. Yeah, I would. I just don't. I 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.000 don't know. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.320 But do you have a thought as to who that 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.680 might be? No, I really don't. But but I'm if 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.520 I if you saw me, if he showed me a 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.719 list of who's available, I'm gonna just like excel sort 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.320 by experience and go there. I want to go there, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.400 and I really because that's what I want more than anything, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.400 because I want some experience in the room there. He's 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.320 not going to be that good. Whoever it's out there's 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.560 not going to be very good. But he's probably won 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.240 a game or two in the league, which is more 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.240 than you could say. I guess For Cooper Rush, I 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.719 just I don't know. I just don't see it. He 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.120 didn't necessarily have to be cut. He could be the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.080 third quarterback, but I don't think they'll do that. I 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.320 think they keep Mike quiet. I have a hard time 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.040 articulating how I feel about that, because I'm not going 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.279 to try to convince you that Cooper Rush is good 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.680 or that you should feel good about him based on 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.279 what we've seen. But I just don't really love my 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.320 other options that much. ONNEST. I mean, like Mark Sanchez 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.760 is there maybe, and he is I think suspended for 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.719 at least a game or two or was that last year. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.560 I don't know. Like I've looked at this, I've looked 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.320 at this. Everybody's sending the RG three stuff. Did he 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.840 get cut? I think people expect him to get cut 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.839 because Lamar Jackson is so obviously going to be your backup. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.920 I mean, okay, RG three does he do a ton 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.039 for you. Jay Cutler's not signing on to be a backup, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.120 like you're gonna have to give him a boatload of 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.120 money to come off of his reality show. I just 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.800 I don't see anybody out there that just makes me think, like, yes, 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.920 this is a definitive upgrade. I mean, sure Teddy Bridgewater 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:31.760 would have been. I don't want to pay a third 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:33.480 round pick for a guy that's not going to play, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.080 and so I'm just kind of I just kind of 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.840 feel like Dak's twenty four, he's built like a linebacker. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.159 He'll be okay, and if he's not, then you deal 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.200 with it when you can. And I don't love that. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.560 But if they wanted to have a better if they 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.400 wanted to feel better about their options behind Dak, they 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.120 should have done it in March. They could have signed 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.719 Teddy Bridgewater in March. Nothing was stopping him, and they didn't. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.760 And so yeah, I just kind of basically, I just 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.640 kind of feel like the Cowboys have made their bed. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.560 Do they want to spend the money at that position? 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.160 I don't think so clearly. I think they've there and 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.560 they've tried. I mean, you mentioned Sanchez, They've had Sanchez 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.800 here before. They've had Matt Castle, they've had Brandon Weeden, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.280 who played for the Texans last night. Those guys didn't 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:11.680 play well when they had a chance to come in 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.520 and play. They've gone the route of let's develop a 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.480 young guy behind a young guy cheaply and and hope 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.520 that he develops. And I don't I don't fault Cooper 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.400 Rush completely for the way he's played, especially the last 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.400 couple of games. Pass production has not been good at 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.720 all for him. The pick he threw the first picky 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.800 through last night, total whiff. I think on the right side, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.840 Chaz Green broke down. I think a back miss to 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.200 block maybe, and he forces it into double coverage. If 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.600 you put him behind the Cowboys first team offensive line, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.440 if he had to come in a regular season situation, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.600 maybe maybe he's more efficient. I don't know, but the 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.760 numbers are vastly different than they were last year when 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.640 he led the preseason in the NFL with six touchdowns 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.360 and no picks. I just don't like his body language. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:59.000 He just looks uncomfortable. He just doesn't look fluid out 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.400 there for some reason. And now it could be that 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.920 backup offensive line because they're terrible. Um, and there it 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.080 is and no way around it, and they better do 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.000 something about it. How they done something about it? A 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.760 nice little segue there may Yes, it sounds like they 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.960 have so Phillison, Uh, well man, from what we knew 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.480 last night I wrote this last night, is that like 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.600 you see this type of stuff happen in baseball all 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.200 the time, Like you know, I remember, uh, you know, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.360 guys will get called in out of center field because 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.360 they got traded during a game. I've never seen that 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.240 happen in football. Yeah, if you don't know, Cowboys traded 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.400 their rookie corner chart Various Ward, a guy that I 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.360 think all of us thought had a good shot to 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.080 be on this team is not on the team then 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.360 certainly on the practice squad. They traded into Kansas City 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.199 for it. And Jerry Jones talked about this this morning. Um, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.760 third year offensive lineman Parker Anger. I think I'm saying that, right, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:09:00.240 Um Anger? Right? Anger? Yeah? Hi, n Um, he's at 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.679 a Cincinnati He's actually taken like right after Charles Tapper 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.400 and before Dak in the fourth round of that draft. Um. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.439 Jerry said this morning that he's he started at guard 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.360 in this league. He was. He was a rookie starter 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.640 at guard before he tore his ACLU. He's moved around 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.400 a little bit at guard and tackle for them. He's 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.360 kind of been their utility offensive lineman in the two 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.160 years since his injury, and Jerry said they think he 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.120 could play center in a pinch. I don't think he's 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.439 ever done it in a game, but they think he could. 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.280 So he is a kind of utility man. And you 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.120 know it's worth saying they traded chart Various Ward for him, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.439 So I mean they traded their fifth or sixth corner 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.640 for It's you're you're not getting an all pro here 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.560 that this is the type of stuff these teams do, is, Hey, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.719 we need a corner, you need aligneman, all right, we'll 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.640 send you this guy, and maybe we both feel better 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:50.559 about our depth. Did Dean Edwards make this team now? 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.320 I wonder now, because because I thought, if you're gonna 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.160 bring in an alignment, I thought you're gonna have to 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.520 get another center in here. Um, does Cameron Fleming make 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.679 the team? I would imagine, I would imagine he by 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.840 default as your swing tackle for now. And I don't know. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.720 I mean, we've talked about this again on the show 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.640 with Brian a lot like it's such a shallow pool 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 to find backup offensive line talent. If you've got it, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.240 you hoard it, you keep it on your roster, especially 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.520 at tackle. This this kind of this makes me think 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.320 that they that Travis Frederick is going to go to 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.960 I R after the cuts, because they still might't go 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.200 with nine. Where who's your nine? Let's just say Frederick 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.400 he makes the team. So Looney's a backup. That's six, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.559 Fleming seven, that this guy Anger is eight. You still 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.679 don't really have a backup center. I mean, Jerry did 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.520 say this morning that they think he could play center, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.320 so I mean theoretically, and Zach, like Mickey doesn't like that, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.520 I don't know, you have to bag play center. You 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.160 have Zach Martin too, it's worth pointing out. Yeah, but 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.960 who's gonna play guard? Then? Anger and Anger? Yeah? Anger? 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.400 M Jaz Green's not in this list. No, he's no, 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.200 which I hear. I thought. Ours if they you go 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.280 nine offensive linemen to start, if they decide to I 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.560 R Travis, then that still leaves you with eight, and 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:18.559 that gives you that gives you Cadeem who you think 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.280 of him as a guard. But maybe he could kick 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.120 out to tackle in an emergency and anger and could 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.200 and yeah, so or are they done? Flemming? And yeah, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.520 sorry Fleming And maybe they're not done? You know, claim 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.360 claims will go down over the weekend. Sunday is gonna 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.239 be a really busy day. I really feel like it. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.880 So trying to do, you know, try to help us 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.440 a little bit there, David. Now, yeah, no, if y'all 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.760 could just let me know what you need from me before? 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.200 What's the cutoff? Eleven am? And wow? You know us 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:50.040 an LSU fans a seven seven o'clock, six o'clock kickoff? Yeah, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.800 and it's like eleven ams might cut off before. I can't. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.040 I can't help you anymore. You can need me. You 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.839 need to get be in touch. By eleven I was Rob, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.720 it's gonna it's gonna be us, Mick, can you help 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.920 little bit? I'm going to the game. Also, well me too. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.160 When when's your cut off? Though, I'm guessing about two 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.840 two or this is gonna be Texas Live over there? 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.920 Oh yeah, Texas Live. I think we got a brunch reservation. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.600 Oh boys, it's football Sea parents are in town. Jose 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.000 is back, My dog will be back by late, Like 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.080 what it's I think they're getting in town at four thirty. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.600 He's been on a vacation. He's been on a vacation 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.320 far away, but he's coming back. Oh god, um that 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.480 game last night, I mean it was just like the 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.160 I said that puns on Twitter. I mean, were you 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.560 probably bringing some bad ones? Oh? Yeah, No. I mean 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.760 I felt guilty because I try to provide insight during games, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.600 but I just I couldn't do it that I've cut. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.480 That was the fifth. It was the fifth preseason finale 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.360 I've covered because we didn't have one last year because 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.600 of Hurricane Harvey. And I'm sure that they were all terrible, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.400 but that one really felt like it took the cake. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.560 I think this one was pronounced because we had a 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.360 preseason finale a week ago, four days ago. Yeah, good point, 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.400 But we've had two and four days and that's a 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.199 lot of preseason finales. That's a lot of That is 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.439 a lot of backs, true, and you have a dress 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.400 rehearsal type game, You're okay. Four days later with that, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.880 you've got you got to see Dak and typically maybe 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.800 Zeke play into the third quarter or at least a 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.640 couple of series. I didn't get any of that. I 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.120 didn't understand why the rookie receivers in there. I was like, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.240 why don't you gallop your ass over to the bench. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.000 I did see that pun from you. That was what 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.720 squat like, why was he in the game? He told 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.719 us After the game, the coaching staff gave him the 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.520 option of do you want to play a quarter or two? 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.120 He said, I want to play two quarters? Stop said 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.840 I need the reps. I like, I like to hear that. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.040 But when you see him get wrapped up there, Mick 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.640 want to catch right, but by the ankles, it's like, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.480 get us up, Get up, Get up players, players, players 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.360 want to play. That's the coach's job to be like, nah, 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.880 you're good, we don't need you. You know, I had 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.320 an interesting site there before the game that I don't 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.360 think i'd seen before. I don't know if y'all y'all 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.760 caught this. Lance Lenore's first tackle of the day was 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.679 tackled by a bag of balls. YEP, I don't know 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:08.800 why that bag that probably holds um twenty kicking balls 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.840 or whatever sitting right on the field and Lance Lanor's 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.679 trying to you know, so last week it was Byron Jones. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.199 He runs into this this week. It's a bag of balls. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.960 He trips, he falls, almost takes out someone else, and 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.080 you're like, this is gonna be this guy that that 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.920 helped him out though, because he made a special team stackle. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.760 It's true he did. What y'all think about that hit 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.400 at the end of the game. I heard we talked 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.040 about it in the tunnel. I didn't see it because 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.720 we were down at field level, y'all. You know, we're 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.400 getting ready to do like postgame videos. I heard it 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.520 was kind of it's just yeah, you know I'm talking 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.360 about making see it. Yeah. Um, I mean it's a 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.600 weird thing because you're you're supposed to block the guy. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.080 You don't want him to catch the gunners down there 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.560 trying to catch the ball at the one or two, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.600 you're trying to block him. I don't know, did he 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.000 target him, end, I mean, it was it was. It 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.640 was a pretty bad helmet to helmet. But it ended 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.640 up being a bad helmet to helmet. But the guy 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.240 low his head, and yeah, I thought he got him. Now, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.280 I know you don't have to do helmet to helmet. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.720 I thought he got him with the shoulder, but he 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.120 but he did hit him in the head um, but 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.600 the guy lowered his head and I think that's got 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.120 to be considered when they when they call that penalty. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.640 And kind of a related note, I'm just convinced if 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.880 you if you just run a deep like a deep 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.360 slant or a deep end three times and you throw 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.160 the ball in the air and your guy goes up 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.720 to get the ball, he's either gonna catch it or 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.680 there's gonna be a penalty. Yeah, I mean, here's gonna 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.280 be a penalty. You can't hit the guy the flag on. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.200 Jordan Lewis want the safeties to be great. There's no 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.720 no more great safeties anymore. And they're gonna be broke, Yeah, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.160 because of the way the rules are. I don't know 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.600 how you played this game for those guys, I really don't. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.760 I don't know where they can hit. You know, they're 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.480 gonna give up plays and we're gonna be sitting there 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.320 and go ahead, guys soft terrible. Well he didn't have 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:03.560 any money eight defense. I think you're and I mean, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.400 it's it's it's a different game. I'm sure, you know, 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.360 like with everything else, it'll it'll evolve. They'll figure out 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:11.880 how to call it, and they'll figure out how to 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.800 coach it. But it is it's weird when you see 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.520 those types of things that look like clean football players 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.080 get flags. Get the feeling we'll see more in preseason 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.960 than we do in the regular season starts. That's what 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.400 I've been saying from the beginning. It seems like they 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:29.240 over officiate it, I think, to enforce the set the tone, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.200 and then it's I thought there was a flag on 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.840 every play. I was surprised a lot there. It wasn't 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.920 as many when you look at the final There might 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.240 have been some declined, but I mean I thought there was. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:41.600 You know, if I can turn on the the page here, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.880 I'd like to turn the page of this game. Man, 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.160 as we are deeper in the weeds on the game, 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.080 we can do that. We can turn the page. You guys, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.680 just twenty one flags in the game. That's a lot. Yeah, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.520 Texans had twelve and the Cowboys at nine. Cowboys at nine, 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.960 I thought it would be an eighteen. I wonder how 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.080 many were on special teams every every play, every play? Right, Yeah, 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.560 pretty much? And I thought Lenore had a pretty good 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.680 game special team wise, because he had that pretty nice 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.840 nifty twenty two yard return. They gave him twenty three 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.880 yards for the game on five returns. Oh yeah, great, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.119 not great. He didn't didn't bobble anything, but there was 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.760 a lot of fair catches though. Yes, yes he was 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.520 solid in the game. But again, you're gonna keep seven receivers. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.440 He doesn't. He does nothing for me. I would cut him. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.000 I'm sorry, I just I think there's another Lance Lenora. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.639 Every year. There's a guy like that to make a 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.320 rector fifteen years ago. I mean, there's somebody that's just 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.120 been around. It's a try hard guy. I just don't 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.199 think he'd ever play in the game. It's it's a 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.399 really good analogy for the whole thing. Actually, because I 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.520 saw Lewis Riddick, the ESPN um guy that you know, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.200 former scout. He's on ESPN now. He had this tweet 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.520 last night where he's like so many snarky tweets about 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.320 how bad these games are, Like, you know, how about 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.200 show some respect for these guys that are like given 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.320 busting their ass, given it, they're all to like, you know, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.200 achieve their dream. And he's right, and it's right. It's 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.919 a good point. It's you know, all respect to these guys. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.919 They're busting their ass and Lance Lenoor has been here 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.320 more than anybody on this team going back to February, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.879 just busting his ass. But at the same time, you 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.680 can still call it like it is and say it's 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.639 not entertaining football. It's just not. I'm sorry. I respect 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.360 the hell out of the guys for what they're trying 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.760 to do, but these games are pretty gross more often 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.280 than not. And in the same vein, I respect the 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.719 hell out of Lance Lenor. I'm not sure what he 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.080 does for your fifty three right now, Like I don't 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.560 know what skill said he has that another receiver doesn't. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.600 I don't know what he would do on a game day. Yeah, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.240 more so your forty six. Yeah, it doesn't make sense 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.399 to me, and that, you know, all credit to you, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:45.959 but I just don't see it. It It seems like a 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.720 poor man's Terrence Williams. And he's not that rich either, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:52.440 you know. I mean it just kind of I think 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.159 I think I trust Lance a little bit more to 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.840 do a little bit more Like I'm not putting Terrence 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.080 in the slot, probably at least not as often as 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.520 I would with Lance. And I wouldn't ask, wouldn't ask 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.040 terrence to return anything that's true. But are you right 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.960 about that? But again, I just I can think of 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.919 a skill set that all these receivers that are going 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.679 to make the team have, and I don't know what 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.600 Lance does that's different from them. That's better. I think 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.840 he passes waivers. I think teams are gonna look at 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.600 it and go, well, and that's the respect the hell 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.320 out of him. I think every team in the league 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.080 probably has a guy like that. They're like, yeah, like 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:28.879 he's great for scout team and he'll be on our 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.760 practice squad. Well, Nick said it physically symbolical leists. Turn 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.520