1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: production of Iheartrading. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: super producer Alexis code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: you are here and that makes this the stuff they 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: don't want you to know. What a week, What a 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: time to be alive. We are living out that old 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: curse of existing during interesting times, and that's why we 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: do this thing at the top of the week every 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: week until we get black bag call it strange news. 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Want to thank everybody who takes the time to write 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: to us, who takes the time to hit us to stories. 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: We're grateful for these, and we never get to all 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: of them. But we're going, let's see, not just around 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: the US, but we're going to outer space today at 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: the end. And before we do any of that, of course, 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: we're headed to Vegas. 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: Right, Vegas maybe, yes, yes, yes, a place where what 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: happens there stays there, Right, that's the rules. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: That's the rules. 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: I think, so. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: Unless someone writes a story about it tells the world. 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: Well, they they did try to make Vegas family friendly 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: for a while there, a few years, and I think 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 3: they went back and said, you know what, guys, we're 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: a city of vice, we know vices, we do it. Well, 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: let's just get back to the slots. But yeah, yeah, 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: have you been to Vegas, Matt, have you spent much 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: time there? 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: I've been to Vegas so many times. Oh man, it's 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 5: practically my second home. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: I was wondering, who'd have a picture of you up 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: at the luck. 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: It's not in a lux or band. Come on, it's. 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: It's at the Yeah. I was gonna say, youah, creepy 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 4: clown motel? Is that one? 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 6: Yeah? 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 7: Yeah? 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 5: Uh But no, I I think I've been like once 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: or twice. But Vegas is a fascinating place, and that 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: is where we're headed. But before we get there, and 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: before we get to our story, guys, I want to 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: know how you would feel if you were a nine 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 5: to one one dispatcher in Las Vegas for their Metropolitan 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 5: Police and you heard this, there's like. 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 7: An afool person decided and another one inside and it 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 7: has big guys that're looking at us and it's still there. Okay, 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 7: where is this on your property? In my back yard? 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 7: I swear to god this is an adult because actually, 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 7: so there's two people. Are two subjects batter in your backyard? 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: Correct? 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 7: And they're very large, they're a nicety like big eyes 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 7: that have big eyes like like I can't excited and 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 7: big I'm mouth their tiny eyes and and they're not human. 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 7: The harder person that are human. 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, as a nine to one one operator, I mean this, 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: this person is handling it with absolute professionalism, you know. 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: Subjects. 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the only that was the only 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: slight stumble. 68 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: I guess if you are a nine to one one 70 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: operator in any large city, then you hear a lot 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: of things, right, and you always have to treat them seriously. 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: So maybe she's assuming drugs at this point. 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: I honestly thought the interjection of the word subject was 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: sort of deferential and respectful to the caller as not 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: to call them crazy. It's like, you know, we're we're 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: sort of we're gonna use these generic terms, but I'm 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: not immediately questioning you or in your sanity. We're gonna 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: just use sort of like a catch all term. I 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: thought that was cool. 80 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and stumbles, and she caught herself from 81 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: saying totally. 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: Exactly yep, on the same page. I don't know. I 83 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: immediately think prank, but the person doesn't sound pranky. They 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: sound like they're describing something, So I don't know. 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 5: There's certainly no audible chuckling in the background of like 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 5: friends that you might hear if it was a prank 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: call or something. I should be noted that it is 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: a felony to call nine one one and report something false. 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 5: If there's actual evidence that you have done this, it 90 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: is a felony. Wow, So be careful. 91 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you accidentally call nine one one, stay 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: on the line and let them know it was an accident, 93 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: because what else can you know. It can lead to 94 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: some pretty scary conclusions if a call goes through to 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: nine one one and then hangs up, you know. 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: I imagine protocol is to act on that and treat 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 4: it as as an emergency situation. 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is protocol. 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: And in this case, it could be just two people 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: that are in this person's backyard trespassing for one reason 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: or another, So you do have to treat it as 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: really a trespassing, I think, is how you would initially 103 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: treat this. Now, also remember we are in Vegas, which 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 5: is a huge performance town, right, all kinds of different 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: live performances, different costumes, different things like that are going on. 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: We're stilts. 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: Perhaps somebody got a little too drunk at Circus Circus, 108 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, doing the bootleg Curcasole performance. 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: Exactly. It could be any of that stuff. 110 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: That's why it was treated as seriously, let's at least 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: look into it. And it leads us to our story, 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 5: and it comes to us from Channel eight CBS local 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 5: news there in Las Vegas. It's a story by David Charns. 114 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: It was posted on June seventh, twenty twenty three, and 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: the title is Las Vegas family claims to see aliens 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 5: after several reports something falling from sky. Now, did you 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 5: catch that something falling from the sky? This nine to 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: one to one call, and this report of alleged alien 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: activity in a backyard in Las Vegas corresponds immediately directly 120 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: with reports of something strange and glowing that fell from 121 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: the sky and landed somewhere in that same vicinity. Wow, 122 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: it's pretty weird, right, Yeah, that object was captured on 123 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: police officer's camera that they were wearing, where you can 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 5: see this police officer having a conversation with two people 125 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: on the street. They are blurred in this video because 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 5: that's not the pertinent information in the video. If you're 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: looking at the center top of the frame, you can 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 5: see this almost bluish green glowing light fly through the 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: air in the background as it's headed in a trajectory 130 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: towards the Earth. 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: Pretty weird. 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: It sounds a lot like a media write, right, one 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: of these objects that's burning up in the Earth's atmsphere 134 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: as it's entering it is a bit strange to see 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: it that specific green blue color, right, which would might 136 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: lead you to believe that there are specific minerals or 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: you know, some kind of elements inside that meteorite if 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: it is in fact a meteorite that's burning up as 139 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: it's heating up in the atmosphere. 140 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: And AMS says, or American meteor Society says, there are 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: ten to fifty meteorites falling somewhere every day. But you're 142 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: you're right, and that's something I appreciating your notes on this, Matt. 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: There is a fascinating correlation. 144 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: Here yeah, and you can actually go there's a website 145 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 5: that I link to. Is that what you're talking about, Ben, 146 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 5: The AMS website that shows that there was something that 147 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: fell or at least sightings of something that fell out 148 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: there on that date. Because the date everybody is May first, 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, that's when all of this went down, 150 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: but it wasn't reported until or at least reported widely 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 5: until a month after. And the reason why we know 152 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 5: about it is because George Knapp, who also works at 153 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: KLAS or Channel eight CBS News there in Las Vegas, 154 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: he did a pretty full report on it, and he 155 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: has been speaking with that family directly, having interviews with them. 156 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: It does appear that the family's being a little cagy 157 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: at this point. We can say that one person, one 158 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: member of the family who's been mentioned most prominently, named Angel, 159 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: gave a full interview with a person named Doug Poppa 160 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: who's a journalist out there in Las Vegas. And you 161 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: can also right now find a video almost a I 162 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: don't know what you'd call it, not a confessional video, 163 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: but just a video document basically that Angel created and 164 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: posted on his own YouTube channel that is just him 165 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: telling the story guys, and I thought we could watch 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: just a snippet of that video talk about it. And 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: then I made a version of the video that he 168 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 5: shares within this. It's like a video in a video, uh, 169 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: And I slowed it down to about twenty percent so 170 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: we could really analyze it. So let's go ahead and 171 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: get started. 172 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 7: Here. 173 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: This is from Angel's YouTube channel. 174 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 6: And here's a video where we were in the backyard area. 175 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 6: You can see you can see it too good, all 176 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 6: right on cameral, but it is there. 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: Here's a video, Hi. 178 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Guyer. 179 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 6: Moments after the video, me and my brother went to 180 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 6: go pick up my tools. That my brother calls me 181 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 6: and he told he told me, shaking me, look behind 182 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 6: the fore cliff. So I look. Keep in mind I'm 183 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 6: facing the fore cliff, and then I see the alien creature. 184 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: So when I saw it, it was a tall, skinny, 185 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 6: lengthy creature. It was a great greenish color. And when 186 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 6: I looked at it in the eyes, my body just rolls. 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's the same guy from the NAMA 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: one call. 189 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: That's the same guy. Yeah, that's Angel. 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: He has a similar air of authenticity. I mean, I'm 191 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: just you know, reading tone here, you know, what I mean, like, 192 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: he seems like he believes what he's saying. 193 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 5: There's some body language stuff in there, Ben that I'm 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: assuming you picked up on. But you know, it's a 195 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: it's a younger guy and he's telling a story. You 196 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: can't see it obviously in this podcast format, but he's 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 5: got I think, a statement written down on a phone 198 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: or a tablet or something that's next to the camera 199 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 5: that's filming him, and he's constantly going forward and scrolling 200 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: basically to get to the next thing. So he's really 201 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: reading a statement that's that's almost what it is, a 202 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: witness statement. 203 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: It's a witness statement. It's not designed to hold up 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: in court. But you know, think about this, Think about 205 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: this family right now, regardless of whether you consider yourself 206 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: a true believer or a died in the wool skeptic. Uh, 207 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: we've got to exercise empathy and realize this family has 208 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: been how and inundated with all sorts of attention once 209 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: the story went viral. So it's really smart of Angel 210 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: or any family member to have a here are the 211 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: facts description so that the countless reporters going to them 212 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: can be met with just the here you go, here's 213 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: my statement. You can use that on Local five or 214 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: nine or whatever. 215 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 4: Yep, I was a little confused about what we were 216 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: supposed to be looking for in the video. 217 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, So in that video, that's the whole family present, 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 5: their mother, father, several children, including Angels. 219 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: In the backyard in question, right sea in the backyard, Okay. 220 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: They're peering through a doorway to the back yard area 221 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 5: that is it's a fairly large area that appears to 222 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 5: be covered in some kind of gravel. There are numerous 223 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 5: vehicles back there. You can see images of this place 224 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: from up above, like from a bird's eye view from 225 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 5: a drone, and you can see this. It's just it's 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 5: almost like a huge parking lot for vehicles. And according 227 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: to Angel, he was in the back working on his 228 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: truck in that area when they heard a big crash 229 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: and this is some kind of vehicle with lights was 230 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: in the backyard, crashed down to the earth in the backyard. 231 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: They all freaked out about it, and then, as he states, 232 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 5: there basically the entire family went and investigated. And the 233 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 5: video we're looking at here that we just saw is 234 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: the whole family opening that gate and peering into the backyard. 235 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: Angel states right before that place in the video that 236 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: you can't really see him or the creature the entity 237 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 5: back there, but he's in there. So it made me curious. 238 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: I slowed the thing down to twenty percent, increased the 239 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 5: exposure a little bit, and tried to mess with the 240 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 5: contrast enough to see into the darkness that's right in 241 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: the center. So let's go ahead and look at that, guys, 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: and let's just see what we see. So you can't 243 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 5: really see anything in this first shot. There are two 244 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: places in the video. Here's the second place in the 245 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: background under there. 246 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: The white thing. 247 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: I see light reflection in there, but I don't see 248 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: much else. I'm gonna play it one more time, guys. 249 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a little tough to see. There's definitely 250 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: a light of some sort of yeah. 251 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: And there's a form like under the light. There's sort 252 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: of like you know what that looks like? Maybe a 253 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: car though there's like a like a kind of a 254 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: slanted line. 255 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: There's a vehicle back there for sure, Okay. 256 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: And he mentions a forklift as well, and he's working 257 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: on a car. There's there's a tweet I put in 258 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: the chat here where somebody did something similar they they 259 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: froze and zoomed in on the footage. This was Fred Staples, 260 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: and he's got he's got a thing where he zoomed 261 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: in a little bit, but it's next to it. He's 262 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: got a still picture of you know, just a frame 263 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: pull of what could be any number of things at 264 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: this point. Oh, definitely aliens. That's why the bodycam footage 265 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: isn't there. 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: No, there's no, there's I don't see anything in that. 267 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: I think when you draw a line around anything, it 268 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: looks strange. 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: I don't see anything. 270 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: Basically drew a little alien. Yeah, No, I don't see. 271 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: But again, I'm stuck with the feeling of you know 272 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: that the authenticity of the in the tone and that 273 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: nine on one call. But I do have to say, 274 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: and thinking about a lot lately, with this news coming 275 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: out about unknown materials, materials of unknown origin and all 276 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: of that, I think it's gonna happen, guys. I think 277 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: we're going to have a day where we have to 278 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: really question a lot of the things that we've believed 279 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: or or not believed. 280 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 6: You know. 281 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: I think we're going to see in our life that 282 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: we're going to be faced with something inexplicable like what 283 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: this kid is claiming to have. 284 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: Seen, Something's gonna happen. Sure, I mean there's also the question, 285 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: given what we know about how few entities control mass media. Uh, 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: the timing of these things is interesting. I don't think 287 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm not at all cast a dispersion on the sincerity 288 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: of the people. My question is why did the story 289 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: go viral? You know? What I mean? Is that is 290 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: that because UFOs are in the zeitgeist or UAP. It's interesting, 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: It is a fascinating conundrum and maybe disclosure will one 292 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: day no longer be a jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, but 293 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: never ever jam today situation. 294 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 295 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: It also I think went viral because the individual police 296 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: officers in the department there itself, they took it very seriously. 297 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: There was a surveillance camera in the backyard in that 298 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: large open area that we talked about where some craft 299 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: allegedly landed, where the entities allegedly were. But according to 300 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: the family there, that camera is not controlled by them. 301 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 5: It is controlled by the landlord. And as of the 302 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: initial reporting from everywhere that I've seen, nobody has found 303 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: footage of the craft or this event. I heard some rumors, 304 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 5: but I think they're just rumors that the kind of 305 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 5: the tale that you hear a lot, some kind of 306 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: EMF interference, some kind of electromagnetic force knocked the camera 307 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: out for the time that the craft was there. Who 308 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: knows if that's real or not. But the police did 309 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: after this event set up their own surveillance on the 310 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: home itself to check out what's going on. It's the 311 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 5: Homeland Security Department of the Las Vegas Metropolitan. 312 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: Police and they also is police who are relatively skeptical 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: in their line of work. They seem to have at 314 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: least one of them seems to have encountered something right, 315 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: and we know that. It's interesting to me though, that 316 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: the logic for the bodycam footage being turned off is 317 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: that they were going on private property. 318 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: And I think, oh, that's body cam I'm talking about. 319 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: I know, I know you're I'm saying the body cam 320 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: was also turned off. That could shed a lot, that 321 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: could have shed a lot of light. I know you're 322 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: talking about the surveillance system because there are pictures of that, 323 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: aren't there right the second the one the cops put up. 324 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: Isn't that like a ring like I was reading something 325 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: about a doorbell camera? Is that what we're talking about. 326 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: Oh no way, I'm thinking of the one, Matt. You 327 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: were talking about, the earlier one that the landlord had, 328 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: and then the cops or homeland put up a second one, 329 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: and then there was this thing where people said, that's 330 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: kind of unusual, right for police to return and set 331 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: up that surveillance. 332 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 5: I think that's again one of the big reasons why 334 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 5: this is has caught so much fire is that the 335 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 5: police department there, even homeland security within that police department, 336 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: is taking it seriously as though something may have happened, 337 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: because they have corroborating evidence from their own officers of 338 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: something going down in that area at that time. 339 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: There was a really cool response to the tweet that 340 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: Ben posted says you can't fake a mediaite and a 341 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: nine one one call with family panic video ten minutes later. 342 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: Listen to the audio and tell me the family script 343 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: of this moment. So that's the thing I keep returning 344 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: to is just the timing. You were obviously taken by 345 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: that too mad just how quickly this happened after that 346 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: falling event, whatever that item was. I'm sure we'll get 347 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: to the bottom of what that was exactly, But the 348 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: timing and just the tone of all of this really 349 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: feels legit to me. 350 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's just one last thing here, guys. According to 351 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: the brothers, because it's two brothers, Angel is one of 352 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 5: them who witnessed this thing. They were in the back 353 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 5: working on the truck. Their statement is that when this 354 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: thing landed, it was blurry. Now that sounds interesting to me. 355 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 5: It was blurry when it landed, and then the whole 356 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: backyard area appeared to be blurry after they ran away 357 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 5: and were observing it. 358 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: Like some sort of heat distortion or like like a 359 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: aura kind of. 360 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 5: Or some sort of propulsions, right, that's distorting. This is 361 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: weird to say, but space and or time in some way. 362 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: Or just the air. Like you've ever seen heat in 363 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: the desert, you know, it makes like it really visually 364 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: distorts your. 365 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Perception of space. 366 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 5: Again, it's you got to take their word for it 367 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: or not. But that's kind of where the story is 368 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: right now. If you hear anything new about this, or 369 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 5: you've got anything else to add, we'd love to hear 370 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: from you, So do reach out. For now, we're going 371 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: to take a quick break here, word from a sponsor, 372 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: and we'll be right back with more strange news. 373 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: And we have returned. We're traveling from Vegas to Cuba 374 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: via DC, where the news broke recently that the government 375 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: of China has not only been trading goods and services 376 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: with Cuba, but they have been running a spy station 377 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: there since at least twenty nineteen, probably earlier, I am Jackson, 378 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: inherent lack of surprise, because we've been following the growing 379 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: surveillance beef between China and the US for a while. 380 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: Were you guys surprised? I know you had heard about 381 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: this also. 382 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 5: This one is actually new to me this week, So 383 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 5: I'm I'm diving in with you right now. 384 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: Ben Same, I would say, not entirely surprised, but I'd 385 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: like to hear more. 386 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: So. We knew about the so called secret police stations. 387 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: That was another big story that broke a few months back. 388 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: And we know about the Confucius Institutes, which are a 389 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: little bit controversial. Sometimes I think it's a little bit 390 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: unfair to throw the Confucius Institutes in with those police stations. 391 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: But the deal is that the National Security Council spokesperson, 392 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: or one of them, a guy named John Kirby, talked 393 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: with the Wall Street Journal about this, and officials at 394 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: the Biden administration got caught out when news of this 395 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: alleged spy base hit the public. They said, oh, we've 396 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: got a bunch of classified stuff about this. We have 397 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 3: to downgrade it so that we can respond because there's 398 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: inaccurate reporting on the matter, and the stuff they could 399 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: confirm is pretty spooky. Beijing totally denies this. They say, 400 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: we don't know what you're talking about. And then also, hey, 401 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: you guys have a problem with spying, which is a 402 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: really good point, honestly. Unfortunately, right, that's the case. I mean, 403 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: if the United States can spy on China, why can't 404 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: China spy on the US? That's the question they're asking. 405 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: Well to do as I say that, as I do 406 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: kind of tactic. Right. 407 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: Oh, when it came on the heels of the spy 408 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: balloon two totally forgot about the spy balloons. 409 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: I think the key is is don't get caught. That's 410 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: sort of how spying works. You know, everybody does it 411 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: and no one wants to talk about it. 412 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: Check out our episodes on so called tradecraft. We also know, 413 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: you know, the conversation always have where we're talking about 414 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: things like disclosure or we're talking about the cadence of 415 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: why stories evolve or find a niche and expand in 416 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: the public mind. How much of that is organic, how 417 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: much of it is calculated. We can read some tea 418 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: leaves here with these increased claims about spying, and they 419 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: don't look good. Uncle Sam and Uncle Gee. I think 420 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: I mentioned this on a group text. Are increasingly violating 421 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: the kind of gentlemen's agreements that a lot of the 422 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 3: frenemy countries have. 423 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure, I didn't want to derail band. 424 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: They were just really loud thunder that just occurred as 425 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: you said that, and it was striking to me. 426 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: Oh no, they're all in on it. They're all in 427 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: on it. It's Chinese spies landing in Vegas. So it's 428 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: strange too. There are some funny moments because the Biden administration, 429 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: when they first talked about this, they said we inherited 430 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: this problem, which was a real snarky way to get 431 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: at the Trump administration. Their basic thing was, Okay, why 432 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: are you yelling at us. It's not our fault. We're 433 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: trying to handle it, which is not what you want 434 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: to hear from the halls of power. 435 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 436 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: So I'm really interested in the reaction from even Cuban 437 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 5: officials about this story, who are saying, it's like, that's ridiculous. 438 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: We don't want any foreign military presence anywhere here. We 439 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: also don't want it anywhere in the Caribbean. No, right. 440 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: We also wish you guys would get out at Guantanamo, right, Yeah, 441 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: which is the oldest US for a military base. Yeah. 442 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: Cuba has labored under the US embargoes for a very 443 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: long time, and this can be a sensitive issue to 444 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: a lot of people in the US, but also no 445 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: surprise in Cuba as well. The countries are not friendly. 446 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: During some previous administrations, there have been efforts to normalize relationships, 447 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: but they inevitably fall apart once an anti Cuba guy 448 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: gets in office. 449 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 4: They opened it back up very very briefly, and my 450 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 4: kid and her mom got to visit like this tiny 451 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: window when travel was opened back up, and they said 452 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: it was wonderful. It's a beautiful country and really cool 453 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: old cars everywhere, and you know, incredible, incredible culture. But yeah, 454 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 4: they slammed those. 455 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Doors real quick, and Cuba does have absolutely astonishing car mechanics. 456 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: By necessity, each one of them is a walking mcguiver. 457 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: It's amazing. I guess mcgiver was a walking mcguiver. Moving 458 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 3: on the Yeah to your question that Cuba's Vice Foreign Minister, 459 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: I named Carlos Fernandez Dicosio, totally dismissed the original Wall 460 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: Street Journal report and he called it quote this from Reuters. 461 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: He called it a US fabrication meant to justify a 462 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: decade's old US economic embargo against the island nation. Like 463 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: you said, Matt, and I think this is quote you're 464 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: referring to. Cuba rejects all military, all foreign military presence 465 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: in Latin America and the Caribbean because the USSR is 466 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: no longer their sort of patron state, not patron saint. 467 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: But they didn't get very close at times. That's probably 468 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: why Cuba is getting torto win win deal with China, 469 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: you know. And then furthermore, unless we get more information, 470 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: the building or the structure may be real, and China 471 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: and Cuba don't consider it a spy station. Maybe it's 472 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: just the US's opinion, right, that's the idea. 473 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, let's talk about the implications of a powerful 474 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 5: actual spying station one hundred miles off the coast of Florida. 475 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 5: Do we think that could be extremely effective if there 476 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: was one there, even if it's still across one hundred 477 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 5: miles of ocean. 478 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it could be more so so partially it 479 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: could be helpful with signals intelligence, right, And another thing 480 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: that it could be useful for is force projection. Force 481 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: projection is the kind of bund up term for being 482 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: able as a country, being able to get your military 483 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: armed forces out beyond your own borders and sustain it. 484 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: So that's what that's the next step in China's role 485 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: as a superpower. And if you look if you're China, 486 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: then it makes sense. Right, You've seen this kind of 487 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: stuff work with the USSR and Cuba in the past. 488 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: There is precedent. If you're Cuba, it makes sense to 489 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: get in a win win situation with a nation like 490 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: China that also shares some of your concerns about the 491 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: United States. Is it illegal really, because it's not like 492 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: they're said, they're on foreign soil, and if the government 493 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: of Cuba approved, then there's nothing wrong. It's just a 494 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: bad look. And I'm also wondering if they would have 495 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: just let this, let this little outpost go on its 496 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: merry way and pick up you know, various signal intelligence 497 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: things like that. I think they would have never said 498 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: anything if it hadn't gone public. 499 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, probably, So you're you're assuming, so you're saying US 500 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 5: intelligence probably knew and just what like was just going 501 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: to be like, hm, let's watch that. 502 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's feed them some fake news. That's the move. 503 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: I mean, that's honestly the only strategic move there. If 504 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 4: you know, then you just kind of don't dip your 505 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 4: hand and use it to your advantage. 506 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the thing, right, Like you want that 507 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: information as symmetry, You want to know more than the 508 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: other side. But for a lot of people, the question 509 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: then becomes, is this a sign that relationships between the 510 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 3: US and China and the world are going to continue 511 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: to deteriorate. It's true the US has for all intensive purpose, 512 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: has initiated a slow pullout of the Middle East. Like 513 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: that's why Saudi Arabia just made a big economic deal 514 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: with China. Saudi Arabia is taking is accepting Chinese currency 515 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 3: for oil payments. It's sort of a dun dun dun, dun, 516 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: dud dun, dun, d dun dundun situation. The world is changing. 517 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: It's no longer going to be the day of a 518 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: single superpower. But I don't think I don't think it's 519 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: quite to the collapse of the US as defact or 520 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: the US dollars, the facto reserve currency, which we discussed 521 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: in a previous h Strange News segment I think, or 522 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: listener mail segment. Anyway, this one is for all our 523 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: folks who are in the game in China, and keep 524 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 3: it brief. I just thought it was a to me, 525 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: it stood out as something that we're going to look 526 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: back on later with the benefit of retrospect, and we'll 527 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: we'll see a heightening series of escalations. This is why. 528 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: Is the takeaway here that that we maybe we're not 529 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: quite as aware of how cozy there's a new layer 530 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: of realization as to how cozy these countries are and 531 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: have been with each other. 532 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: I would say that that's part of it. Another one 533 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: is the realization that China is a hedgemonic force. It is. 534 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: They're making moves. 535 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: They're making moves, right, and we don't want to assign 536 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: morality to these kind of geopolitical actions. But we have 537 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: to remember even though the James Bond series is a 538 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: wonderful story about a terrible spy. Espionage is real. It 539 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: is happening, and I don't know if people should be paranoid. 540 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: I think we're well past the level of paranoia. But 541 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: you should pay attention because there are going to be 542 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: stories coming out in the news. I guarantee it. In 543 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: the near to short term, there are gonna be stories 544 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: coming out in the news that are gonna sound wonky 545 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: because there's something else happening behind the scenes between the lines. 546 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. We can't predict it, 547 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: but we're going to see further escalations. Hopefully these escalations 548 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: are not going to lead to a hot war, but 549 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: maybe on the way to a cold war, part due 550 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: the coldening. 551 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: Was it Belarus that just made some kind of announcement 552 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 5: about nuclear weaponry and Russia? 553 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: Oh, Belarus, Yeah, Belarus has been going through it. That's 554 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: a Lukashenko they're getting. I think the news is Russia 555 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: is delivering nukes to Belarus, okay, which is also a 556 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: double plus on good I also somewhat rhymes, So there's that. 557 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: There's that, Like we said, I think I said this 558 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: an earlier group chat that we had off here. You know, 559 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: no matter how you feel about the chaotic state of 560 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: the current world, the memes are going to be lit. 561 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: The memes are going to be amazing. So this one 562 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: was for all of our all of our friends in 563 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: Cuba and China and the US and abroad, anybody playing 564 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: the game. Let us know what you know to the 565 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: degree that you're comfortable telling us, and let us know 566 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: your predictions for the future of spying with the US 567 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: and China. We've been lucky enough to have some people 568 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: with personal experience right in. Greatly appreciate your time. Stay 569 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: safe out there, join the show. We're going to pause 570 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: for word from our sponsors, keeping this one pretty short, 571 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: and we will be back with one more piece of 572 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: strange news in outer space. Space space. 573 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: And we returned, turned turned to trip into the deepest 574 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: realms of the moons of Jupiter. Yeah, that's right, we're 575 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: talking about habitable space places. You know, we're always on 576 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: the hunt for that sort of I guess at least 577 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: you know, a home from beyond the stars for when 578 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: we wreck this one. Certainly an interesting proposition. Probably be 579 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: better to be better stewards of this here planet. That 580 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 4: seems so tailor made for life and all that and 581 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: all of that entails, but the search, whether it be 582 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: for research purposes or actual repopulation in the event of 583 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: some sort of global catastrophe, the search for life and 584 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: places that can support life in outer space continues, and 585 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: there's been a pretty significant breakthrough. There's an article on 586 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: Vice by Becky Ferreira headlines Saturn's moons in Seladas is habitable, 587 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: confirms breakthrough study. So what scientists have discovered are high 588 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: levels of phosphorus in the oceans of this moon in 589 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: one of Saturn's rings. Moon is called Ensladis. And this 590 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: is a very important find because it is I believe 591 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: the only time this has ever been detected in you know, 592 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: extraterrestrial oceans. And that's what this study has concluded. And 593 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: it's a big deal because it is an indicator that 594 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: it could support life, you know, at least the kind 595 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: of life that we're familiar with, the kind of organisms 596 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: that we experience here on Earth. Yeah, we vibe with 597 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: and you know, there are other examples of conditions on 598 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: other moons that could this. This discovery leads the researcher 599 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: to believe that some of these other planets might also 600 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: have these similar conditions, for example, Neptune's moon, Triton Pluto, 601 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 4: but they don't have the data to back it up 602 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: on those quite yet. But what they have discovered is 603 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: that Ensuladus, which only measures about three hundred across, has 604 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: very very interesting marine environments. Essentially, there was a spacecraft 605 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: Cassini that NASA deployed that ended its run ounce pace 606 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen. But before it ended, it was able 607 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: to actually scoop up some frozen water, some kind of 608 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: bound up ice cores, you know, from the planet's surface, 609 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: and then hold on to it while it finished, you know, 610 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: doing its final years, and then it actually brought it 611 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: back and that is what has been analyzed. 612 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 5: Well, no, those those ice particles that they're studying, it's 613 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 5: crazy to know they came from these giant geysers on 614 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 5: the Moon. They're like, shoot that stuff far out because. 615 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: It's a subsurface ocean exactly, that's right, that's right. So 616 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: it's not open to the surface in other words, right, 617 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: so it's almost like giant, vast flooded caves or something like. 618 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: When you say subsurface ocean, can you kind of describe 619 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: what a geological feature like that might feel like we 620 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 4: were to come upon it. 621 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, so HP Lovecraft. No, I'm kidding, it does have Yeah. 622 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 3: So it's the way I understand it. In the in 623 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: the Nature Journal article that was released about these phosphates, 624 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: you mentioned the way we understand it is that liquid water, 625 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: one of the holy grails of human space exploration, exist 626 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: but it exists in other places, on other planets, other 627 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: celestial bodies. But because we are in this kind of 628 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: Goldilocks temperature zone, we can have water on the surface 629 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: without it and the water will stay there and not 630 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: all these other crazy things will happen. A global subsurface 631 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: means there's water under the whatever the surface might be. 632 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: It could be ice, it could be another like frozen 633 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: substance or chemical, or it could be straight up rock. 634 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: You know, like the moon is pretty cool, but the 635 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 3: Moon would be way way cooler if it had a 636 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: ton of water under the rocks. 637 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: And in n Solitus's case, or I don't know how 638 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 5: to say it, in this moon's case, it really is 639 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: mostly ice on the surface. So like imagine those guysers 640 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 5: like you said, no, bursting up through that ice. 641 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: So you've got the liquid water that that awesome little 642 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 2: machine just happened to like catch some so. 643 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 3: Dope like a snow globe cracking almost how you get 644 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: the water? For sure. 645 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 4: None of us claim to be scientists here, but the 646 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 4: phosphorus angle is obviously the breakthrough of this study, and 647 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: I'm kind of a little bit confused as to why 648 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 4: that's so important. I will get a little clarification from 649 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 4: a guy named Frank Postberg, who is a planetary is 650 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 4: in fact a scientist, a planetary scientist at the Faya 651 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: Universe a tet in Berlin. Yeah, this to say, Insulatis 652 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 4: was already considered a pretty habitable place before this. The 653 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 4: conditions in the oceans seem to be good for life. 654 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 4: There are very likely hydrothermal vent systems at the bottom 655 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 4: of the ocean that would be an energy source, so 656 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: you don't need sunlight. There is a rich variety of 657 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: organic compounds we detected previously in the ice in vapor 658 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 4: that is emitted in the plume, But the missing ingredient 659 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: was phosphorus. And that's why phosphorus gets a lot of 660 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: attention because it was the only element that had not 661 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 4: been detected by Cassini and was considered critical. 662 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean phosphate. I first learned about the importance of 663 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: phosphate very late in the game. It's when Matt, you 664 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 3: and I did an episode on the oceans and phosphate 665 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 3: in the oceans, right, and I was not aware that 666 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 3: it is. Phosphorus is one of the six essential elements 667 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: of all life on Earth. 668 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 4: There is. 669 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 3: That's it's such an understraated player in the you know 670 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: what I mean, everybody's like, oh, oxygen, carbon, what about phosphorus? 671 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 3: Why am I yelling? 672 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: All right? 673 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: Moving on, let's name them ben carbon? I know, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus, A, 674 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 5: there's one more sulfur, sulfur, Okay. 675 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 4: I mean I would be interested in going through and 676 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 4: figuring out are these just markers of a habitable environment 677 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 4: or do we do our bodies literally need all of 678 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 4: these things? 679 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: Like it seems it's a combination. 680 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 4: I think maybe you know, obviously we need H two O, 681 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 4: we need water, we need air. But where's the phosphorus 682 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 4: and the and the sulfur come in? Or are those 683 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: just markers? 684 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: You know? Yeah? From what I understand, this study from 685 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: nature shows us habitable, but not necessarily inhabited. Right, two 686 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: very similar words it's two very different things. I read 687 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 3: that one of the guys you mentioned in this study 688 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: said they believe there might actually be too much phosphorus 689 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: for there to be undersea life there, because the phosphorus 690 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: concentration is something that's like one hundred times higher, right, 691 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: we mentioned it was. 692 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly one hundred times higher than what we have 693 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 4: here on Earth in Earth's oceans. 694 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: So that could indicate that there's nothing there to use 695 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: the phosphorus. It's like a car waiting for someone to 696 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 3: drive it. 697 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 4: That's interesting, he does say, he kind of does refer 698 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 4: to it. I guess again, I'm laying here, but as 699 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 4: sort of an indicator, he says, the phosphorus is not 700 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 4: something that comes from any life. For them, it's not 701 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 4: produced by life. It's just an ingredient that, at least 702 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 4: for Earth, was essential for the emergence of life. So 703 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 4: like your whole you know, bringing up the habitable versus inhabitant. 704 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: But when you start seeing these things aligne it makes 705 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 4: it a hell of a lot a lot more likely 706 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 4: that life will be discovered I. 707 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: Hope so, or transplanted or created, you know what I mean. 708 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: Not everybody's a fan, I guess but life, although it 709 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: has mixed reviews, is a pretty rare and fascinating thing. 710 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: So what I'd like about this study you found Noole 711 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: is that it's so inspiring. I also want to note 712 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 3: before we get more emails about it. Yes, we know 713 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 3: that Earth's moon has water, it just doesn't have as 714 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 3: much and it's also not as cool as this moon. 715 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 4: Can I just add to that one of the pieces 716 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 4: of gear that Cassini uses to analyze all of this stuff. 717 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: It's got the coolest name, CDA, for sure, but it's 718 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 4: Cassini's Cosmic Dust Analyzer. 719 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: Oh snap, that's awesome. 720 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: Man, the cosmic It's a real cosmic gumbo. 721 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 3: Do you think he names everything like in his house? 722 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: I hope his kitchen. I hope everything has a weird 723 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 3: name in his kitchen, you know what I mean? 724 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 4: Cassini's kitchen. 725 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: Cassini's Cosmic kitchen. 726 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: Oh oh, definitely. And that sounds like a great pizza restaurant, Matt. 727 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 4: I think I saw your eyes light out, which you got. 728 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just this moon is going to be really 729 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: popular once we can get humans up there. Do you know. 730 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 4: What's small too? It's a problem. 731 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 5: It's gonna be small, but it's gonna be really popular 732 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 5: with a certain crowd because the oceans, all that water 733 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 5: we're talking about, that's underneath that solid ice, it's sparkling, 734 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 5: it's carbonated, it's. 735 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 4: Right, And that's because of the phosphorus. Right, Yeah, isn't 736 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 4: that part of it? The high levels of phosphorus make 737 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 4: it like fizzy. 738 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I like my moon water carbonated. 739 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 740 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 4: They actually go so far in the Vice articles to 741 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: refer to it as a soda ocean rich and carbonated 742 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 4: street up to the solution of phosphorus from rocks. Uh, yeah, 743 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 4: it's solar. That's that sounds luxurious, man about that one 744 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: really particular your all kinds of parts. 745 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 3: It's the new Monaco, right is Oh yeah, I like 746 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: this idea. And also it seems like now the reason 747 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 3: this is a breakthrough is not just because it has 748 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: one of the superstars of life as we know it 749 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 3: in abundance, but it also helps focus future studies. Right 750 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: now we can hone in, we can scope for a 751 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: little bit more specificity in our research. Say I'm saying 752 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: our like, we're doing it again. This is the result 753 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: of some absolute, absolutely brilliant minds. The only qualification I 754 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: have personally to talk about Saturn and its moons. Is 755 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 3: the fact that I've typed astronaut as my job on 756 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: this call. 757 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 4: Obviously, we have privately funded space organizations like SpaceX here 758 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 4: in the United States, making the news mainly because of 759 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 4: the idiotic antics of its founder. But there are other 760 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 4: space operations. For example, there is something called the European 761 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 4: Space Agency that actually just launched an equally badass named 762 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 4: piece of equipment into outer space to study Jupiter's It's 763 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 4: called Juice all Caps. Not sure if that's an acronym, 764 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 4: don't care. We love the all caps. And then NASA, Yeah, 765 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 4: don't forget about little NASA. It's still around to some degree. 766 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 4: They recently are they're preparing to launch something called the 767 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 4: Europa Clipper and that's gonna hit in twenty twenty four. 768 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 4: It's cool to see. It does feel like the stories 769 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 4: that we get well there. Maybe it's not as you know, 770 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: oh the awe of space like it was when we 771 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 4: were kids, or you know, there's no like moon landings 772 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 4: or anything, but it does seem like we do get 773 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 4: some bangers every now and then, you know, like some 774 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 4: real okay, Like I said, I think I said it 775 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 4: off the air when we were talking about the Vegas 776 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 4: you know, alien sighting. Like, I truly have turned a 777 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 4: corner in my belief that we are going to in 778 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 4: our lifetime see something that we don't understand, that we 779 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 4: have not seen before. We're seeing it in little drips 780 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: and drabs with these are worts of you know, materials 781 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 4: of unknown origin and tik tak and all that stuff. 782 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 4: But like, I think it's going to be bigger. I 783 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 4: think we're gonna see something bigger than that. I don't 784 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 4: know what you guys think, but it's just I feel it. 785 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 4: And I'm not usually been the person that really believes that, 786 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 4: but uh, I've definitely changed. 787 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely great. Welcome to the team, bro, 788 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: because the world is full of these amazing, inexplicable, astonishing things. 789 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: What maybe sometimes people get disillusioned because the new thing 790 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: that comes out isn't the thing they wanted. Like a 791 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 3: lot of Bigfoot fans might say, Ah, why is everybody 792 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: spending all this time on aliens or true ai? What 793 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 3: about Bigfoot? But if we just keep that sense of 794 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: wonder and open minded curiosity, then it's impossible to be bored. 795 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: We do live at interesting times. 796 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, like both the curse version of that and just 797 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 4: the like positive version of it, the most Paul version 798 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 4: and just the like, you know, good good vibes. 799 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I keep wanting to talk about this again. Guys. 800 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 5: There's no really good place to insert this. But lest 801 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 5: we forget about the moon Phobos, Mars' moon Phobos. 802 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we forget about that bass. 803 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 5: And buzz Aldron's claim that one time when he was 804 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 5: on c SPAN about there's a strange monolith on Phobos 805 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 5: and we need to go up there and check it 806 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 5: out and see what's going on. 807 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: And never in the news again. 808 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 4: You got flushed down the bad egg hatch. 809 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 3: That story certainly did. Yeah, it's funny there. We're right 810 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 3: there with you. 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