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Well, 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this much lately, but it's still 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: a story around the country, which are the travel delays 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: that people are running into, particularly obviously if they're taking flights. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: There was still again today a number of canceled flights 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: around the nation. American Airlines canceled one hundred and fifty 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: two flights and more than two hundred were delayed. United 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: canceled seventy delayed one hundred and twenty three, Delta canceled 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: forty eight, delayed one hundred and sixty eight. And there's 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: also the airlines are announcing that they're cutting back on 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: departures even from some of the big airports, and then 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: in some cases they're not even going to serve some 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: of the small town airports for now because they just 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: don't have the personnel to be able to carry out 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the schedule. Now, the statistic I'm reading says that the 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: number of people traveling by air is expected still to 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: be the lowest since twenty eleven, and the number of 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: people traveling as it's a small increase over last year 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: of three point seven percent. So while people are taking 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: to the air to travel, it's not like that has 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: been in other years. We're going to talk about this 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: now with Scott Kis. He's the founder of Scott's Cheap Flights. 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Let's get him on the show and see what he 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: can say about all this mess and his advice. Scott, welcome, 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Thanks can great to be here. Sure, so let's begin 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: with why is this happening the airlines. Obviously, with the 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: pandemic and the shutdowns, they had to do a lot 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: of scaling back, but now it seems like they've had 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: time to prepare for what it's going to be a 55 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: busy summer, that's right. And the difficulty that many travelers 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: are facing when they're getting to the airport is that 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: they go to check a bag before they go through 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: security and finding that there are not enough agents there 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: to take their bag, and so there's long lines. Once 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: they do get through those lines. They're finding that when 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: they go through security, they're even longer lines at security 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: because they're not enough TSA agents. You know, the travel demand, 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: the number of folks looking to take vacations is essentially 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: back to pre pandemic levels now, but the actual number 65 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: of staff, both at TSA and with the airlines is 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: still down significantly from where it was pre pandemic, and 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: that's causing a lot of these ripple effects, including the 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: types of delays and cancellations and long lines that we've 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: been seeing. Is the staffing more about the people at 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the counters or the flight attendants or the pilots, is 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: all these things? It's all those things, because look, when 72 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: you have more leisure travelers and business travelers, that means 73 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: you've got more folks tending to check bags, which takes 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: more time. You've got folks who are maybe a little 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: bit less experienced generally with traveling, and so maybe they 76 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: don't remember, Oh, I've got to take off my shoes 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: before security. Oh I need to make sure I drink 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: my water before bringing it through security. Each one of 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: those is only going to be an extra twenty or 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: thirty seconds, but you know, multiply that times a thousand 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: people and all of a sudden, you've got lines out 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: the door. Multiply that by the fact that even though 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: travel demand is significantly rebounded back to twenty nineteen levels, 84 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: when you look at leisure travelers, the actual number of 85 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: flights is still down about fifteen twenty percent because airlines 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: don't have enough pilots, they don't have enough planes, and 87 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: they don't have enough ground crew to be able to 88 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: operate in number of flights they would ideally like to 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: during the summer. And so that combination of high demand 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: low supply results in higher fares like we've been seeing, 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and not a lot of slack in the system. There's 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: not a lot of spare pilots or planes. So when 93 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: these cancelations began, they tend to have a cascading effect. Yeah, 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: and said the airlines having trouble finding people to fill 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: these jobs, or they just haven't really been looking to 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: add staff mostly they form, or they've been having trouble hiring. 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why is that when it 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: comes to pilots, this is not an entry level job. 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: It's a job that takes you months and years to 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: train for and to hire for, and so you're seeing 101 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: some of the knock on effects of decisions that airlines 102 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: made early in the pandemic, when right out the gate, 103 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, in March and April twenty twenty, airlines stop 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: hiring new pilots, thinking that this was going to be 105 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: an existential crisis, and you know, allowed many of their 106 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: existing pilots to either take early retirement or take buyouts 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: to go ahead and and and leave the companies. And 108 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: so now with travel demand rebounded far quicker than they anticipated, 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: they're left pretty flat footed, and so they're doing their 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: best to try to hire new pilots. But that's not 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: something where there's just a lot of spare pilots sitting 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: on you know, sitting at home waiting to be called. 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: This is going to be a months and years endeavor 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: to try to get back to full pilot employment. Yeah, 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: speaking of the pilots, I saw a story this morning 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: that one of the issues too is the mandatory retirement. Apparently, 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, you reach a certain age you have to 118 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: retire in pilot. Indeed, indeed it's sixty five years old, 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: but under federal law, once you hit sixty five, you 120 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: all have to retire as a commercial airline pilot in 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the United States. There's discussion about whether that not that 122 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: should be increased, And there's also discussion about whether the 123 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: current levels of requirement of training are our right or 124 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: if they're too you know, a little bit too high. 125 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: So you have to have to fifteen hundred hours of 126 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: training flights as a pilot in the US, far more 127 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: than pilots in other countries require, and even far more 128 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: than the US requires for international pilots landing in the US. 129 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: So a pilot flying a plane from let's say Japan 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Airlines or or you know, from Aero Mexico landing in 131 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: lax is not subjected to the fifteen hundred hour requirement 132 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: the way an American Airlines pilot or a Delta Airlines 133 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: pilot is required to have that fifteen hundred hours to 134 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: get in the cockpit in the first place. I see 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: a story this afternoon that an American Airlines pilot who's 136 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: part of a union is saying that the FAA should 137 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: monitor the airlines. He says they're scheduling flights that they 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: can't follow through on due to a pilot shortage. In 139 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: other words, they know that some of these flights are 140 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: going to have to be canceled, but they schedule them anyway. 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: Have you heard anything about that. Yeah, it's a tricky thing, 142 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: you know. This is something that I've seen pilots at 143 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Southwest as well, saying that essentially their eyes were bigger 144 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: than their stomach, that the airlines scheduled too many flights 145 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: that didn't have enough pilots to be able to operate 146 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: those flights. And one of the most difficult things for 147 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the airline industry in general is the fact that you 148 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: have to schedule flights twelve months in advance, and when 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: you schedule those, you are at best making an educated 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: guest about not only what the amount of travel demand 151 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: there will be, but how many pilots in ground crew 152 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the airline will have to be able to operate those. 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: And so in the you know, if they're really really good, 154 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: they guess correctly, they anticipate demand and the schedules perfect. 155 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: But more often than not, and especially these days, with 156 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: travel still getting back to normal, still not quite kind 157 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: of fully renormalized, airlines are finding that they're having to 158 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: sort of right side their schedules, and that's why you've 159 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: seen airlines having to make these sort of late adjustments 160 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: having to trim even their summer schedules when they make 161 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: a disproportionate amount of their money. And just today United 162 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: announcing that they were cutting twelve percent of their flights 163 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: into and out of Newark Airport this summer, a time 164 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: when they're making usually money hand over fists, but they 165 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: do not have the pilot that they hoped they would 166 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: have to operate them, and so they're going to have 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: to trim that schedule to make sure that they don't 168 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: wind up canceling flights day of So what's your advice 169 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: to people who get to the airport and find their 170 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: flight is canceled? Oh boy, So first of all, make 171 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: sure you check before you get to the airport. The 172 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is show up only 173 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: to find out at the air when you get to 174 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: the airport that your flights already canceled. Come prepared with 175 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: a backup plan. I like to always have a sense 176 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: of what flight would I ideally like to be on 177 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: if my original flight gets canceled, and that's this can 178 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: be on a competitor airline. You know, my buddy who 179 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: is flying out to visit me recently was flying on 180 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: American airlines. But because of a delay, he was going 181 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: to miss the connection in Chicago and wind up having 182 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: to stay in Chicago for the night, and so instead 183 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: American Airlines actually put him on a United flight to 184 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: get to his final destination. So come prepared with that 185 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: specific backup plan and ask for it specifically if if 186 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: your flight ends up getting delayed or canceled. Finally, make 187 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: sure you don't just stand in line to get reaccommodated 188 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: at the airport, but call phone support as well, and 189 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: consider calling the airlines international phone lines. You know, most 190 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: folks call the main US hot line for that airline, 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: but you know, American Airlines has offices in Canada, they've 192 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: got offices in the UK, they've got offices in Mexico 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: and Australia and elsewhere. And so if it costs two 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: cents a minute to call Canada, but I that results 195 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: in a fifteen minute call rather than a two hour call, 196 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: that is thirty cents very very well spent in my book, 197 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: So call those international phone lines. The agents there can 198 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: help reaccommodate your real book you, just the same as 199 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: the US agents can. All right, Scott, thank you very 200 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: much for spending some time with us. My pleasure can. 201 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on. All right. That's 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: Scott kay Is. He's founder of Scott's Cheap Flights talking 203 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: about the airline delays. You probably saw the comment the 204 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: other day from our wonderful Transportation Secretary Pete Bootigage, who 205 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: just said the airlines have to hire more customer service people. 206 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: So in other words, they'll just have more people to 207 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: take your complaint calls, but they won't have enough people 208 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: to staff the flight so you don't get your flight canceled. 209 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Coming up on the John and Kent's show pretty much 210 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: as soon as we return your chance at the thousand 211 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: with the keyword, that's our little gift to you, just 212 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: to stand by and find out what it is. John 213 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: and Ken Show here on KFI, and we'll be talking 214 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: to Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI about the decision 215 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: of the FDA to stop Jewel from selling it's vaping 216 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: and east cigarette products in this country. That has big ramifications. 217 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: People who have been using that product to give up 218 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: tobacco cigarettes clearly won't be happy. That's like the number 219 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: one company out there. Probably you've often heard of advertisements 220 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: for Jewel Juul. We'll talk about that after the news 221 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: at three thirty. The Supreme Court decision that came down 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: this morning, which probably a lot of people weren't even 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: aware that the case was before the court was a 224 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: gun ruling. What timing with all the talk about the 225 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: mass shootings and gun legislation that might be passed in Congress. 226 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court bolstered by the appointments of President Trump. 227 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: You got to appoint three Supreme Court justices. When you 228 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: think about that, that's pretty amazing for a guy that 229 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: only had a four year term. That's well, that's the 230 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: luck of the draw and also the importance to sometimes 231 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: winning the presidency. So it was six to three. The 232 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Second Amendment ruling is a case out of New York 233 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: and it really was kind of simple. And you may 234 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: have wondered about this yourself. Why can't I carry a gun, 235 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: particularly for self protection outside of the home, without having 236 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: to go through a lot to get permission to do that? 237 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: And basically the ruling was and was written by Justice 238 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas's there shouldn't be really much impedimence to that. Now, 239 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: there can be some requirements that you have to meet, 240 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: but not a lot of states. It's a handful of 241 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: states were requiring in California is another one. It's California 242 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and that little northeast bunch of states that basically wants 243 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: you to show just cause. And you know that's pretty subjective. 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: So a lot of times people in these states were 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: being turned down when they wanted to get a permit 246 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: to carry a gun outside the home. And the Supreme Court, 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: you said, just looking at the Second Amendment and the 248 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: right to bear arms, and I mean, the amendments of 249 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the Constitution are fairly broad, but you have to do 250 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: some But the New York law required showing a special 251 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: need to get a permit to carry a concealed handgun 252 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: in public. The state bands carrying handguns openly, but allows 253 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: residents to apply for licenses to carry them concealed. But 254 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: the issue was that permits could be granted only to 255 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: applicants who demonstrated a special need, and that requirement goes 256 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: beyond just a general desire for self protection. You basically 257 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: would have to make the case that your life is 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: in danger, that maybe you've been threatened, maybe the nature 259 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: of your job compels you to perhaps have a gun. 260 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: And the court just decided that that's above and beyond 261 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: on what's guaranteed in the Second Amendment for people. Now Here, 262 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: in California, as I mentioned, we're one of the states 263 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: where you do have to jump through hoops. In La County, 264 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: you have to go through the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, 265 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: And I remember talking about this last year. Sheriff II 266 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: and Aueva wanted to quintuple the number of licenses his 267 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: office issues by speeding up the reviews and making what 268 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: he calls the good cause standard achievable. So it can 269 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: be as hard or as easy as I guess local 270 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: officials decided could be. So in these states that have 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: this extra hoop to jump through, it's pretty difficult to 272 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: get the required permit to carry a gun outside the 273 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: home for protection. Now, apparently they can still require you 274 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: to go through background checks, maybe a mental health check, 275 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: psychological testing and such like that. That's not going to 276 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: be off the table. But this idea that you have 277 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: to have a specific reason, you have to make your 278 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: case that you need this gun, specifically for reasons concerning 279 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: protecting your life or the life of your family or 280 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: anybody else with you outside the home. The requirements for 281 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: a license to carry a gun have many state rules 282 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: are restricting who can possess a firearm. The application for 283 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a concealed weapon license lists forty three different types of 284 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: misdemeanor convictions that could cause you to lose your ability 285 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: to possess a firearm for ten years, plus one that 286 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: results in a five year suspension, of five types of 287 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: misdemeanors that can cause a lifetime ban, and being convicted 288 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: of any felony in California will cost you your right 289 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: to buy or possess a gun for as long as 290 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: the felony remains on your record. But what's going to 291 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: happen now is we're probably going to see challenges here 292 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: in California to the law concerning concealed weapons or carrying 293 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: a gun outside the home, because this opens the door 294 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: this Supreme Court ruling. It applies obviously to the New 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: York state law, but now gun owners in these other 296 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: states who have had a tough time getting a permit 297 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: to carry a concealed handgun in public are because they 298 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: can't show this special need and they've been turned away, 299 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: can now cite the Supreme Court ruling and an opportunity 300 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: to overturn that requirement. In this state. All right. Coming 301 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: up next, I'll be talking to Alex Stone, ABC News 302 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: for KFI. He's going to talk to us about this 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: decision by the FDA concerning one of the big makers 304 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: of a very popular product among people that de vape 305 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: or use e cigarettes, and that's a company called Jewel 306 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: ju U L. The FDA is stopping them from selling 307 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the product. It's coming up next on the John and 308 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Ken Show on KFI. A reminder that tomorrow is the 309 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: Moist Line. We'll be playing some calls round the five 310 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: o'clock hour. You can still leave a message. You can 311 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: use the iHeartRadio app, the talk back feature low microphone, 312 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: or you can call a good old Moistline number one 313 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven 314 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: six six four seven eight eight six. We're going to 315 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: talk to a woman by the name of Rachel. Coming 316 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: up after the news at four o'clock. We talked about 317 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: this case a couple of weeks ago and it made 318 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: the news in reporting. She is the woman that was 319 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: out walking her young child, a little boy, and they 320 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: almost got killed by a sixteen year old behind the 321 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: wheel of a car, who if you look at the video, 322 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: looks like he was aiming to kill them. They were sideswiped. 323 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: She went up against the side of a building. I 324 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: guess she's got like a carriage or a stroller. She's 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: using two and fortunately they were not that seriously hurt. 326 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: But it brings us back to the La County District 327 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Attorney George Gascone and his light treatment of this juvenile 328 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: who was already in trouble for another infraction. Apparently had 329 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: spiked a drink at school. This kid was just up 330 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: to no good left and right, and the punishment for 331 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: nearly killing a mother and child is very mild. Get 332 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: into all that coming up after the news at four o'clock. 333 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: One of the other big stories today is an announcement 334 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: that the FDA is banning the sale of products by 335 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: the company Jewel in the United States spelled j u 336 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: u L. They're started out in San Francisco and twenty fifteen. 337 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: It's about East cigarettes, of course vaping. Let's bring on 338 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Alex Stone to find out more about this decision. Heyter Ken, Yeah, 339 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: so this has been building for quite a while, and 340 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: a few years ago Jewel was everywhere, and you remember 341 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: right around twenty seventeen, it was every story that you 342 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: would walk into people walking down the street taken a 343 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: puff and vaping or standing outside airports. All that twenty 344 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: seventeen they had seventy two percent of the vaping market share. 345 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: It's gone down since then. Their products look like a 346 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: USB drive, a lot of different flavors. That's been a 347 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: problem for them over the years. A number of states 348 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: federal government cracked down on them over cool cucumber and 349 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: their dessert flavor line and things that attracted kids. But 350 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: today the FDA saying that Jewels evidence that was presented 351 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: to the FDA to prove that Jewels products are safe 352 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: is insufficient and that there is conflicting data about the 353 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: pods being toxic, about harmful chemicals in them when smoked 354 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: going into the lungs. So as of today, Jewel is 355 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: being ordered to stop selling its products. And again this 356 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: is something there have been a lot of claims over 357 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: the years from people who have smoked Jewels products. A 358 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: lot of people switch to eat cigarettes believing it was 359 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: safer and better for them than traditional cigarettes, and then 360 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: they say that they had respiratory problems or thrown irritation, 361 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: or a number of other things. Very high nicotine content 362 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: in them health worries that began to develop. An attorney 363 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: for a teenager a couple of years ago sue Jewel saying, 364 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: this Jewel has turned a generation of our young youth, 365 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: our adolescents into attics. And then he went on to say, 366 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: and now he is one of nearly four hundred and 367 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: fifty cases of reported lung related disease illnesses related to 368 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: eat cigarette use, and Ken Jewel has battled a ton 369 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: of lawsuits agreed to settlements over the years with a 370 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: number of different states, many involving marketing toward their kids 371 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and YouTube videos and the flavors and all of that. 372 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: So you've got two different things here. One you've got 373 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the marketing toward children. They've been dealing with that, settlements 374 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: other things that they've been paying. Then on the other side, 375 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: you've got the is it harming you the chemicals going 376 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: into your body? And the FDA is saying maybe they 377 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: just don't know based on the data. And I wonder 378 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: because I keep hearing that maybe there's some health a thing. Yeah, 379 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: And they're saying that the data is conflicting that what 380 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: Jewel has spent two years providing them does not clearly 381 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: state that the chemicals in those epods that their vaping 382 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: devices use, that the chemicals are not harmful, and so 383 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: Jewel today they responded to us saying it disagrees with 384 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: the FDA, that it will go to court. It's going 385 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to ask for a stay, that they want the court 386 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: to block the FDA's ruling and to allow Jewel devices 387 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: to be sold in the US. Says it's exploring all 388 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: options under the law to remain on the market. But 389 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: they also can see that the FDA here is pretty 390 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: much saying you're done in the US, and if they 391 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: don't win there, then they're gonna have a tough go 392 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: of it. At one point, Jewel had four hundred employees. 393 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: That has gone way down. They were getting a lot 394 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: of money from big tobacco and the Silicon Valley, a 395 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of investors we're seeing this as a safer alternative 396 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: as the future to smoking. A lot of money going 397 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: into it. And as states began going after Jewel for 398 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: safety and for their marketing, a lot of that went away. 399 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: But this was a big one today federal government saying nope, 400 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you're done, no more selling in the US. And then 401 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: now we see what the courts will do there's still 402 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: other e cigarette and vaping products out there right that 403 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: there are so the market of people still want to 404 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: use these products. Yeah, so they've all had to prove 405 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: to the FDA that they are safe in the sense 406 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: of that the chemicals in them are not going to 407 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: overwhelm your body and create respiratory problems. Some of them 408 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: are still up in the air and they're in the 409 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: process of doing that. Others the FDA has said no, 410 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: just like with Jewel, that either they are not safe 411 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: or they can't figure out if they're safe. And then 412 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: there are a few that have able to prove to 413 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: the FDA, smaller companies that they are safe enough to 414 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: remain on the market and you go into you know, 415 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: your convenience store, into Walmart or into wherever you buy 416 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: your vaping products and they can continue to sell those. 417 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: So kind of a mixed bag. But Jewel, because it 418 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: was so big and the one that just had this 419 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: incredible popularity for a while, they're the ones that there 420 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: have been a lot of complaints against. Jewel has always 421 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: defended itself saying these are safe and that the claims 422 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: against them have no merits. But here's a parent she 423 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: has spoken out over the years saying as parents, we 424 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: teach our children to say no to drugs, alcohol and smoking, 425 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: but who knew the worst drug was hiding in plain sight. 426 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: The other aspect is so much nicotine that I believe 427 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: one epod epod has about equal to two packs of 428 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: cigarettes of nicotine, and a lot of the users say 429 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: they didn't know that that they didn't know they were 430 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: going to get hooked on it. That's time. I didn't 431 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: know nicotine was in the jewel and the pods tasted fruiting, 432 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: and I actually thought that it was safe to use. 433 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: So all of this comes into play with the FDA saying, 434 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: you know what, they've been attractive to kids, we don't 435 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: know the health on them. That for now they're done. 436 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: But again the the company saying nope, they're going to 437 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: battle it in court, and they they say that they 438 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: think they're going to get a court to say for 439 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: now at least that they remained on the market. Yeah. 440 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: So the idea was to attract the kids with the 441 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: cool flavors and then stick some nicotine in there so 442 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: they're addicted. That's long term gamp it there, because then 443 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: you have a lifetime customer if they have that allegedly, Yes, 444 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: allegedly is yeah, that's been the claim that the states 445 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: have been making and cities when they banned the flavors 446 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: a Trump administration a couple of years ago, notice that 447 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: there was a problem with these devices. That they they 448 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: moved to ban flavor at ease cigarettes, They wanted up 449 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: the age to buy them to twenty one, and that 450 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: there were some other things that they wanted to do. 451 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: So this has been going on for a while, but 452 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: the FDA had given Jewel a couple of years to 453 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: submit the data and say, prove to us that the 454 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: chemicals in these epods that they are safe, that they 455 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: are not creating the respiratory problems that some have claimed 456 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: that they they have created and people getting really sick. 457 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: And the FDA is saying the Jewel wasn't able to 458 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: do that. It was a few years back, right, with 459 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: some people reporting some sort of respiratory problems from these. Yeah, 460 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: we're doing those stories. Yeah, when these were really popular 461 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: and you saw a lot of people using them, that 462 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: then the claims began coming in people who said, look, 463 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: they switched from cigarettes to these thinking they were going 464 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: to be safer, and then they were using them, and 465 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: their claims were that they had severe respiratory problems or 466 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: other issues of itchy throat or coughing. But but some 467 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: of them claimed, at least in lawsuits and publicly that 468 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: it got really bad. Hiight, Alex, thank you very much 469 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: for that report. You got it. Thanks at all, right, 470 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI on the story that 471 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: the FDA is telling the company Jewel Yeah, which at 472 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: one point at five thousand employees, another down to a 473 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: few hundred because their sales have already been dropping. Juul, 474 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: a company founded in twenty fifteen, not even been around 475 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: that long out of San Francisco. They got to stop 476 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: selling their East cigarettes and vaping products in the United States. 477 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: They're going to appeal that decision. We got more coming 478 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: up here on the John and Ken Show on K five. 479 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: We have an opportunity to talk to a woman that 480 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Her name 481 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: is Rachel. She lives in Venice. Last August almost lost 482 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: her life along with her eight month old son who 483 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: she had in a stroller, A sixteen year old driving 484 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: a rental car, a sixteen year old from Palmdale who 485 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: didn't have his license, was under the influence and on 486 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: probation for another incident, almost killed them. There was video 487 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: captured of the moment. You should see it if you 488 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: have an opportunity. The driver, of course hit them, fortunately 489 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: they were not seriously hurt. He then tried to flee. 490 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: She will tell us the story because it all leads 491 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: to lenient treatment from the La County District Attorney George Gascone. 492 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: That's coming up at four oh five here on the 493 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken Show. Well, Deborah Mark, you ever been to 494 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: a rager? I have not. You know what a rager is. 495 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: It's a kind of a crazy party. It's usually a big, 496 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: out of control, crazy mob party and there's probably drugs 497 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and all sorts of crazy wild behavior. Yeah, not my scene. 498 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: In Florida, there was a home for sale valued at 499 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: eight million dollars. The family that lived there was going 500 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: away for a few days. They had a house guests 501 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: sit there, but that person left on Friday morning. Saturday night, 502 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: up to two hundred teenagers took over the place and 503 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: they went nuts. And not only that, they took pictures 504 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: in video of their party. They actually set up a 505 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: boxing ring on the floor of one of the rooms. 506 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: And had like boxing matches. Oh my god. They spole 507 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: a fifteen hundred dollar bottle of wine, a thirty five 508 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars Saint Laurent purse, and a football signed by 509 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: the former Cults quarterback the legend Peyton Manning. No Way, 510 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: the owner, who didn't want to be identified, said, they 511 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: went into every inch of my house, every drawer. She 512 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: does live there full time with her husband and a 513 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: ten year old and a five year old. They tried 514 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: on my clothes, my shoes, my swimsuit. They stole my handbags, 515 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: which included Gucci and Stella McCartney purses. No, do you 516 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: have any of those? I had a Gucci one at 517 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: one point. Yes, they got stolen now out of style. 518 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: She said that these were older kids, somewhere between the 519 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: ages of fifteen and twenty. She did not know any 520 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: of them, her kids did not know any of them, 521 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: and the invasion of privacy, she thought, was just unbelievably 522 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: over the top. Now, of course they're under age. Just 523 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: think if this had been La County, if they found them, 524 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: George Gascone would just say, oh, you know, I hope 525 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: you had a good time. Let me see that video again. 526 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: It turns out that a lot of them do attend 527 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: local high schools, and some of the families have turned 528 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: them in for doing this. It says here the Yeah, 529 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: it was the foyer of this is a five bedroom, 530 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: eight bathroom home. It was turned into a boxing ring. 531 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: People took all sorts of cell phone video posted it 532 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: to social media. Turns out the owners are big wine 533 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: and liquor collectors, so that's why they went down and 534 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: they found the wine cellar and they rated it for 535 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: some expensive, expensive liquor. They were in every single one 536 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: of our beds. They were in all my children's beds, 537 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: They were in our bed they were footprints in our bathtub. 538 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: That's disgusting. And apparently when I say they were in 539 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: the beds, you can probably guess what went on in 540 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: the beds and what was left over in the beds. 541 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I couldn't live there anymore. Yeah, 542 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: stains and all sorts of disgusting marks. Now I saw 543 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: some video of it on social media. It looked pretty wild. 544 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: It was quite a ranger. Oh yeah, yeah, not like 545 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: any of my fraternity parties in college, but definitely definitely 546 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: a ranger. Here's the thing, they're trying to figure out. 547 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: The teens did circulate a flyer advertising the rager five 548 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: days prior, so they probably figured out that this family 549 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: was going away. I knew that probably would be not occupied. 550 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: The three locks on the doors were pried off, then 551 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: the front door was opened to let the party people in. 552 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: This is the community of Watercolor and Upscale subdivision in 553 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, which does have a twenty four 554 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: hour security patrol. I don't really understand what happened there, 555 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: but somebody's going to get fired. Yeah, we're pretty sure that. Well, 556 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: they haven't figured out how they knew the home would 557 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: be empty, because sometimes we all know this, especially from 558 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: the movies of the day, that when your parents are away, 559 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: if you're all your teen friends come over and have 560 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: a party. But it was not her kids. They were 561 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: not involved in this. They posted videos to TikTok, Snapchat, Instagram. 562 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: Most of it's been expired or deleted now, and they've 563 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: identified many people in the videos. But they want to 564 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: know who is responsible, mostly for the burglary, because that's 565 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: where we could get the felony case against them. Turns 566 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: out the same morning as the house party Sheriff's deputies 567 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: were shot during a gas station robbery and they since 568 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: they had to answer this call too. They wasted our resources, 569 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: our time. We had a suspect shooting at deputies the 570 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: same night. Absolutely absurd the police department. There is I 571 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: rate and this poor family. Are they going to be 572 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: able to sell this house? You wonder? Have you ever 573 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: had anybody break into your house? And no, not my house, 574 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: my car, Yes, not my house. My house got broken 575 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: into in high school. Oh yeah, they take anything good. Yeah, 576 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: they took like ten thousand dollars worth of stuff. Wow. Yeah, 577 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: my parents got a huge insurance pay out from it. 578 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: They took They took my PlayStation portable. They took a 579 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: couple of sports memorabilia things that I had, Like I 580 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: had a signed Sean Green bat that I got from 581 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: my bar Mitzvah that was stolen. Oh no, Sean Green, 582 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: I remember him. Hey, he's my favorite baseball player of 583 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: all time. He's a he's a Jewish baseball player, the 584 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: first baseball player I ever looked up to. Did they 585 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: make a mess of the house or just these the 586 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: house was completely ransacked? Might catch them? No they didn't. 587 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: They never caught him. But I mean we essentially all 588 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: left the house around eight nine o'clock in the morning. 589 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: That morning. My dad came home around lunchtime because he 590 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: forgot something that day from work, and he came back 591 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: in the house was ransacked. So they must have been 592 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: watching the house kind of thing, saw when we all left. 593 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, because that's early. Yeah I went in. Yeah, well, 594 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: when I was twelve years old, I was walking home 595 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: from school and I noticed that our front door was 596 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: open and we had some TVs that were lined up 597 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: in the hallway. So I ran to a neighbor's house 598 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: and apparently I scared off the burglars, but our house 599 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: was completely trashed as well. And it is the most 600 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: awful feeling. You feel so exposed. Yeah, you do, an 601 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: awful feeling. It's a combination of being irate and just 602 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: really really worked up. Yeah, it's it's a terrible feeling. 603 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: And then I lived in an apartment in Encino many 604 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: years later as an adult, and we also got burglarized. 605 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: No clue how that who let the how did they 606 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: got in? I mean on the third drawers in my 607 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: parents room from like their clothes and stuff. They were 608 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: all in the floor, clothes everywhere it was. It was bad. 609 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: They took a bunch of my mom's jewelry. Boy, I'm 610 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: sorry that I pried out these memories from you too. 611 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: It's a horrible I'm so upset now. But Ken, do 612 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: you remember it was about a month ago the Huntington 613 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: Beach meet up from social media. We talked about it 614 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: on the shelf. Yes, this is I think very eerily similar. Yeah, 615 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and I wonder if these are going to become more 616 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: popular on the spot rangers for houses that are for 617 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: sale and unoccupied. All right, coming up next, her name 618 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: is Rachel. She lives in Venice, and she survived a 619 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: horrible ordeal. 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