WEBVTT - Eventually Good Advice with Justin Long

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. Hi Catherine, how are you Hi. I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your Dear Chelsea hat and that you wear

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<v Speaker 1>it now every episode. Thank you. It's my new look.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's very vivacious and I love the coloring. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Dear Chelsea merch is available on Chelsea handler dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in California, back in our studio. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a very exciting time to be alive. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>guest today. We have some letters that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go over right and write in. You know what. We

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<v Speaker 1>got an update from our caller Alexa, whose parents had

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<v Speaker 1>started dating each other again after her dad had cheated.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the one who caught her dad having an

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<v Speaker 1>affair while trying to take that test, and her parents

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<v Speaker 1>had split up and we're dating again, and she found

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<v Speaker 1>it really yucky. But she says, Hi, Chelsea, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing well. I wanted to thank you both and

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<v Speaker 1>Tinks for taking the time to speak with me and

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<v Speaker 1>provide insight on my situation. I took your advice and

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<v Speaker 1>stopped letting my parents to suation weighs so heavily on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, I've been able to repair my relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>my dad. Awesome. We're making plans for the future to

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<v Speaker 1>cook together since we're both foodies, and even go to

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<v Speaker 1>a Hayme concert. Oh wow, my family, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>is it him? I think? So go to a Heim concert.

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<v Speaker 1>They once, they once sang a song in my garage

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<v Speaker 1>for my last TV show, and I think I called

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<v Speaker 1>them ham and was corrected. But you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>usually fucking wrong, so well, I appreciate it. So we

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<v Speaker 1>made plans to go to a Heim concert. My family

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been able to have more meaningful and

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<v Speaker 1>intentional conversations, and we're showing up for one another in

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<v Speaker 1>ways we haven't before. Life is too short to let

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<v Speaker 1>things affect you that are out of your control. I

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<v Speaker 1>greatly appreciate all you do and hope you come back

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida for a show soon, although I don't blame

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<v Speaker 1>you if you don't want to come back to this

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<v Speaker 1>dumpster fire of a state. Alexa. Oh well, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>cute update. That's a cute update. We should do actually

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<v Speaker 1>show updates. Also, I added a show in Saratoga and

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Winery that is coming up this summer. I added

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<v Speaker 1>two shows in Nashville on June tenth and I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Niagara Falls, and I'll be at the Montreal

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<v Speaker 1>Comedy Festival hosting a gala on July. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to Chelsea Handler dot com for tickets for all

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<v Speaker 1>my upcoming shows, because I'm going to Birmingham, Alabama, and Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky and all sorts of fun stops everywhere. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing that many shows, do they all kind of blur together?

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<v Speaker 1>Or no? I pretty much remember because I'm no longer

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<v Speaker 1>ship faced when I perform, so I have more clarity

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<v Speaker 1>and I pretty much remember every show like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is always those smaller towns that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait what that end up being kind of the best show.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, just like Alexa said in her letter, Life's

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<v Speaker 1>too short to let things like that bother you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great segue into our guest today,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a podcast called Life is Short. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on his podcast. He has a podcast called

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I've been. I've been a guest on his podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had a great time because I had ever

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<v Speaker 1>met him before that, so that was awesome. And he

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<v Speaker 1>also stars in the show f Is for Family on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>so please welcome Mr Justin Long, Catherine Guys Chelsea, what

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, Good? What do you think was that your

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<v Speaker 1>impression of me knowing that I was gonna scramble for

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse and start that was just my reaction to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you made your bed behind you because that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like you somewhat have your ship together. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a little gift because I'm late,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is unprofessional, but totally unprofessional. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been late once in my life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that a lot of people would find that hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe, but it's actually sucking true. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if the totally unprofessional part was necessary. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>unprofessional covers at all. I mean, it's okay, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fill in something in place of so totally late. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watched The Bachelor, it's a it's a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>percent or you know there's a higher percentage. A million

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<v Speaker 1>percent has become more tolerable than ac Yes, I would

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<v Speaker 1>exact infinity percent is what they should land on. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I just don't love catchy lingo. Justin like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like trendy bullshit. I don't like when people say

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed or dead dead. I'm dead. I hate dead. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also a horrible thing to Laughter should be a joy,

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<v Speaker 1>like a it's a great part of life. Living well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's l o L Now you can't even you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even laugh. You just have to say lull, which dead

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<v Speaker 1>pen which I refuse to participate in. Good. What about slaps?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard this one recently, slaps. I haven't heard that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean funny? Yeah? I think I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>this producer who was great. The movie's great, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was She was in her mid twenties, late twenties, and

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<v Speaker 1>she would use this language so casually, and she said slaps.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was hard for me to tell because the

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<v Speaker 1>tone that she used it in was like you just

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<v Speaker 1>did with dad, Dad. It's just like, there's nothing joyous

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So she just said, oh, that slaps. That

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<v Speaker 1>slaps very dead pan, not even about a song or something,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was about something like that. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. It turned out to be a By the

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<v Speaker 1>way we sound really, I mean, well, there we are

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<v Speaker 1>old listen, just bake it, you know. I like being old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm forty seven. Then more the other morning I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and I was like, thirty eight is such a

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<v Speaker 1>cool age, Like I'm not yet forty. And then I'm like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>your forty seven? What are you talking about? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just had this idea that I was, all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden thirty eight or thirty eight years old. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean mentally, you probably feel much closer to that.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you justin I'm forty three, But I've

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<v Speaker 1>been identifying as an older person lately. When I you

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<v Speaker 1>know that commercial that I think it's Guy co. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really funny commercial. They're like, don't turn into your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be like your parents, And there's a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has to instruct the younger people to not be prematurely

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<v Speaker 1>older than they are. And there's a whole thing about

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<v Speaker 1>they go to a game and they forget where they parked,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just talk about parking the whole time and

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<v Speaker 1>when they're going to leave the game. Anyway I identify,

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself really identifying with that commercial, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>thank the clerk, wanting to point out how nice the

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<v Speaker 1>store clerk was that helped me out. Well, what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying, young man, what a nice young man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself like complimenting the work ethic of a

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<v Speaker 1>younger generation noticing it. Yeah, yeah, Well we've been making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of all younger generations for a while, especially jen

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<v Speaker 1>X right about their ladys jen Z. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the differences between but the la the laugh will be

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<v Speaker 1>they'll get the last laugh, obviously, because they will outlive

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<v Speaker 1>us and one on it and hopefully save the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder how much of my hostility is fueled

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<v Speaker 1>by just that, just just the biological truth that I

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<v Speaker 1>will be dying sooner, sooner than them. We're anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>over forty is basically useless to the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world because before the tech age, we had to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, educate the next generation and kind of let

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<v Speaker 1>them know what heads up this is. But now with

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<v Speaker 1>Google and with all the information that's at everyone's fingertips,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't need anybody. They just need a computer or

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<v Speaker 1>a phone and computer, I mean, computers will even become

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<v Speaker 1>obsolete for most people at a certain point. So we're irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have no merit on society at this point. So, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's true, everything's at their fingertips. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. They don't need to look to an

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<v Speaker 1>older generation to learn anything form wisdom. That's tru I

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<v Speaker 1>ever thought about that. Yeah, I was just with a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just talking about how much her culture respects

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<v Speaker 1>the elderly and how Japanese. No, she was in Japanese,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was Filipino. Yeah, maybe Filipino just stereotyping. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>positively scy, yes, exact always just how much respect you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the older generation, and how when you see somebody who's old,

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<v Speaker 1>they have knowledge in part with you. They're sagacious, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're revere. Write that down s A G A c

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<v Speaker 1>io us. Yeah, thank you, and you can look it

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<v Speaker 1>up when we're done, And how much they revere older people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking, God, you're so right about how

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<v Speaker 1>American society and it's not every family, but how I

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<v Speaker 1>look at somebody who's a certain age and I dismiss

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<v Speaker 1>them like they're too old school, they don't understand, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not with it, they're not woken off, they don't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're antiquated. And I thought, oh, that's exactly true. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I dismiss someone who's too old because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>their value has lessened, even though I know intellectually that's

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<v Speaker 1>not right, and I'm sure I've done that. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think in theory that I have great

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<v Speaker 1>respect for the elderly. It's one of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 1>love Japan. I love cultures that do revere. There's only

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<v Speaker 1>the elderly are only in Japan. So that's why they're

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<v Speaker 1>mostly elderly in Japan, because I think they've stopped having

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<v Speaker 1>sex for the most part. You should double check that

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<v Speaker 1>well before wet this ghost day. I'm so sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know your name. This is Katherine, This is Kine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you did say it earlier, so you know, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you on a little You're on a there's an there's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing of you. There's a picture of you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really my fault for not introducing her. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>my co host, so that's just my rudeness, you know. Classic. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you, Yeah, justin. I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast because I had such a good time on

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast and we had never met before that, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't we I had, Yes, I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>that as I was scrambling to get here. To your bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a car. I just bought a car,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking sing, speaking of being speaking of being older. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my license. I'm I'm an old looking young

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<v Speaker 1>looking person. I mean I'm at a strange age where

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like an old teenager. Yeah, just look like

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<v Speaker 1>an older teenager, like a really really mature seasoned teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Stemen in high school for like seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly eight and a half. Parker Louis can lose. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a joke for our generation. See, I watched that show. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say grantize my watch with you. I had

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<v Speaker 1>older siblings. Yeah. Wow, I'm surprised that you that you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that show. I don't mean that in a condest anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some good TV back in the day. We

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<v Speaker 1>sure did. You'll like this, Chelsea and Katherine, Chelsea, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you'll like it. I just bought a and you're

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<v Speaker 1>the first person I'm telling because I just bought it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have shame about it, and I need to

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<v Speaker 1>say it with confidence. But I am now the owner

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<v Speaker 1>of a smart car. Goodbye everyone, than I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to say a Bill Cosby Funco. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little like toy thing that people love Fonco's and you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy them and they like reps and different celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>or athletes. Oh oh really, Oh and there's a Bill Cusp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a smart car. I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really, what kind of wait what what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of smart car? Is it called a smart car? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Smart little nugget cars, the little nugget, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought one and I gave it away because it

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<v Speaker 1>drove so slowly and was so ridiculous. But before I

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<v Speaker 1>gave it away, I am blazed. Yeah, so congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>your new car. Hopefully it's not the one that I

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<v Speaker 1>sold or gave. Actually I gave it away to a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the side, I had decals that said Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>Lately eleven thirty weeknights on E because at the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was on that show. So my friend was driving

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<v Speaker 1>around l A and a car that was basically a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial for my show. It's really funny. What a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny that you gave it to a friend. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried that car because I thought it was so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love little small, super small sized things like

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<v Speaker 1>I get off on that. I love like little miniature things.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too. Yeah, Oh, I didn't know that about you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cute. That's why I like Japan, I think. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to drive it. So I'm gonna and in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I've always fantasized about having a car that

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<v Speaker 1>can fit into almost any are you So? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>based out of New York? Justin? I am mostly in

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut and Massachusetts. I kind of go back and forth. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and Japan and Japan. Ideally that would be Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the triangle Connecticut and Massachusetts. Now that's interesting. What why?

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<v Speaker 1>What was on there? How? Not much, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Um. I was born in Fairfield, so

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Fairfield rather and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be close to my parents as they got

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<v Speaker 1>older because you respect them. I respect them and your Japanese. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I might be. I wish I was. I wish you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done one of those ancestry things, but I

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<v Speaker 1>were I to do that, I would. I would really

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<v Speaker 1>hope that I had some chapan you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see you having some Japanese in you. That wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be too far fetched. It's a huge compliment here. I

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<v Speaker 1>was once arrested. I lived in Santa Monica, right by

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<v Speaker 1>the beach. I lived between Ocean and Main Street, and

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<v Speaker 1>I lived on a street that was quite crowd It

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<v Speaker 1>was hard to find parking and stuff, and houses were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stacked on each other, and I rented the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom floor of this house. Anyway, I gotta knock at

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<v Speaker 1>the door at like it was. It was one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, I think, and I shuffled to the door

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<v Speaker 1>and there were I saw three cops on my on

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<v Speaker 1>my porch, and I looked out. They were really banging,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty aggressively, and I but I knew enough

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<v Speaker 1>not to open the door right away. I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the what's the problem? Officers from behind the door,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, your car is blocking a driveway, and

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<v Speaker 1>which is very plausible because people were always complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. But I was a pretty respectful parker,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I said, well, what kind of car is that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was kind of confused, like, how would they

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<v Speaker 1>know it is my car? Why are there three cops? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said what kind of car is it? And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, what kind of car do you drive?

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<v Speaker 1>Which should have been an indication. I said, I pray

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<v Speaker 1>ass and they said it's a prey ass. And I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not thinking the cops are gonna lie, I

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<v Speaker 1>opened the door and they grabbed me and spun me

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<v Speaker 1>around and put me in handcuffs right away, really, and

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<v Speaker 1>one was particularly aggressive, and they said, what is your name? David?

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<v Speaker 1>They kept saying David, your name, David, your name David?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, no, no, it's not I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>freaked up, but I kind of knew I hadn't done anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was weed in the house, but other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I knew I had, I wasn't like dealing. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, you know, pounds of it. So I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the should be in the clear, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's still intimidating. And they kept asking me

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<v Speaker 1>if I was this person, and there were three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and two were shining their lights on on something. They

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<v Speaker 1>were conferring around some photo, and they kept shining it

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth from the light, I mean, from the

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<v Speaker 1>photo to my face and and finally I said, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is justin Long. It's not David, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, are you telling us that this isn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they they showed me the photo and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a mug shot of of an Asian person with foliation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like unmistakably agent. And I said, are you

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidd? Is this a joke? I it was

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<v Speaker 1>around the time of punk, but they were way too

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<v Speaker 1>good to be so I did that wasn't even on

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<v Speaker 1>my radar. I was just so fused. He had glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>eye glasses, and and he said, are you telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that you just haven't have similar looking glasses in the

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<v Speaker 1>same age. I guess he had put that address years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>My landlord had rented it out. He was a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I kept insisting that I wasn't the guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't believe me, And so they went in to

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<v Speaker 1>get my my license. I told them where to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was living with Jonah Heill was my roommate

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and and they were walking towards his room.

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<v Speaker 1>So they went past where my license was on the desk,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, and I stood up, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, no, officers, you're going too far. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to wake up Joe, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the one of the cups just he

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<v Speaker 1>threw me down. He goes se the fun down and

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm nervous around authority. I kind of started to laugh.

0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I get like giggly, I get like nervously giggly. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, and this is funny. It's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be funny. When he was like going on about prison

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<v Speaker 1>and how you're gonna be things are going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to you in prison, and I said, what's a little funny,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna find out that I'm not the guy

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<v Speaker 1>you think i'm, that I'm not an Asian criminal, and

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<v Speaker 1>then hopefully we'll all laugh about it. Did you at

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<v Speaker 1>any point say I'm not Asian this person? Yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I did, And they ignored that, but they persisted.

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<v Speaker 1>They insisted I was this guy. And so then one

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<v Speaker 1>was calling in my my I d and obviously making

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<v Speaker 1>you know, realizing that I wasn't the criminal, and the

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<v Speaker 1>one who had been most aggressive at one point got

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<v Speaker 1>kind of quiet and I could see him studying my

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<v Speaker 1>face and he goes, yo, are you wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>are you an actor? And I said yes, and I'm there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sounding at the handcuff side and he goes, are

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<v Speaker 1>you in Dodgeball? And I said yes, and he goes, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>bro and he went like that to like give me

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<v Speaker 1>a man hug shake and I was like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got that cups on and so you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>they then they realized I wasn't the guy. They and

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<v Speaker 1>they and the strange thing was they I said, Well

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<v Speaker 1>then I was of course freaked out, Well what did

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<v Speaker 1>this guy do? And is he going to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to the house? Is he going to be He's given

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<v Speaker 1>out the address as his and they wouldn't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, and they said if you have any

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<v Speaker 1>question and that. But I was also starting to think, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, there's been some violation, like something was

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<v Speaker 1>not doesn't up about what just happened. There's this can't

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<v Speaker 1>be the way it shouldn't go down. I said, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a number I can call if whatever he comes back?

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<v Speaker 1>And he gave me the number. It was a general

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<v Speaker 1>number that the Santa Monica Police Department. I called the

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<v Speaker 1>next day and they had no idea what I was

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<v Speaker 1>done talking about. Why did I tell you that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you're explaining why you live in Massachusetts in Connecticut? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so a couple of days later, No, it was about

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<v Speaker 1>you said I could be maybe Japanese. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days later, Joan and I were at a bar in

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<v Speaker 1>Renee's shout Out. I don't know if it's still there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Santa Monica. I used to go there all the time. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I did. That's where I did. The majority

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<v Speaker 1>of my drugs in my twenties was at Rene's. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I think that's mostly what's done there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were there and a very lovely Asian woman

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<v Speaker 1>she said, so, what percentage Asian are you? And I

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<v Speaker 1>started laughing, and Janah was laughing because he had of

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<v Speaker 1>course heard the story the cops and what happened a

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<v Speaker 1>couple days and I said, oh, did he tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the story? And she goes, I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And I realized he hadn't told her, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, no, no, I'm not. I'm not Asian.

0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.399
<v Speaker 1>She goes, now, come on, seriously, what are you like?

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.360
<v Speaker 1>And I said, I'm wait, I'm not. I'm not. I'm Italian.

0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. She goes, you know what, that's fucked up.

0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of mixed friends like you, and

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<v Speaker 1>they refuse to admit that they're mixed. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's really funny. She kind of stormed away. Joan was

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<v Speaker 1>laughing so hard. But I, I said to I wish

0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I would gladly embrace that. Yeah, I love Asian culture.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Sounds like you're the victim of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of misunderstanding, like a lot of ethnic misunderstandings. Yes,

0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 1>that's safe to say. Within a couple of days, it

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<v Speaker 1>was really funny. What about your brother though, does he

0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.479
<v Speaker 1>look slightly Asian? Okay, girl, there you go, No, he's um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know what it knows. We all

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<v Speaker 1>look I guess similar. So you look very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>your brother like I did light Instagram creeping, just of

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<v Speaker 1>course as research. I follow you guys on Instagram. You

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>guys look you look. I love following Chelsea. What about Katherine?

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you follow Katherine Justin? I don't up until today,

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I was unaware of her existence. That sounds awful, but

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<v Speaker 1>well I will, I will say Justin just to be

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<v Speaker 1>extra creepy. I actually did know that you drive a

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Prius because I live sort of near Franklin Village. It

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.320
<v Speaker 1>used to see you driving around your Prius all the time. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I literally ran into at Gilson's one time.

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<v Speaker 1>Liked preas have Chelsea lately emblazoned on you know what

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it did? It did it did? Yeah? I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to break that to be such

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan. I was a fan. I was a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what do you say about Gilson's that's something you

0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>had run into. Oh you were. Actually when I first

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<v Speaker 1>moved to l A like ten years ago, you were

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<v Speaker 1>like one of my first celebrity side eggs and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I saw him at the grocery store. Oh. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. It's funny to know people are thinking that, Chelsea.

0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever think that's going on in their head

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<v Speaker 1>that you are somehow that they know you? Yeah? I don't.

0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I always no, I don't. I don't

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 1>ever think that. And I'm always anytime someone's like hi Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Chelsea, I'm always just like, what what do they

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 1>tell my name? And then I'm like, oh, ship, you're famous.

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Well I assume because people often do that to me,

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>and they do it so casually and they're so nonplussed

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.879
<v Speaker 1>as they should be. I'm not saying they should be

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out, but they do it in such a way

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that's so familiar that I often think I know them.

0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, it'll be like hey, Justin, Hey, Justin, what's up?

0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And I start panicking, how do I know this person?

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to place the face. I'm so bad with names,

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and and sometimes it will get a couple of sentences

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<v Speaker 1>in and I'll have to say I'm so sorry, do

0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:35.720
<v Speaker 1>we know each other? And they'll say, no, no, I

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I know who you are. Because it's rarely like excited

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's clear that yeah, nor should it be. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I love Franklin Village. I missed that area. Yeah,

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it's great. The Oaks is back. Yeah, things are things

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are opening up. Yeah, oh yeah they have scar When

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<v Speaker 1>you first ate scr goo, Chelsea, did you have to

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was there a moment of like leaping off the cliff.

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I like gross food like that because I grew up

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.639
<v Speaker 1>on Martha's Vineyard and I ate fried clams and scar

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 1>go and like all the muscles since I was a

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>little girl, because my mom really liked that stuff. So

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I've always been into that kind of stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that people are very disgusted by it. Well they

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because they shouldn't be. I think this way

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 1>about other animals eating other animals like that. You're right

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>if you can stomach a clam. So my thing with

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>clams is that I've never been able to get past

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the the whole body situation, the fact that the entire

0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>digestive tract, all of it is going into your mouth.

0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:42.560
<v Speaker 1>That's a hard one for me. Yeah. Oysters, right, It's

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>fun to watch someone eat an oyster for the first time,

0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and especially if they have a good reaction, which is seldom.

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not always great because usually people are

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<v Speaker 1>like whoa, They have a preconditioned idea of the texture

0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that they find revolting. It is, to me, yeah, slippery

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and snotty. How many people have turned off, have stopped

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 1>listening anyway? Justin let's move on to Sorry Chelsea before

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<v Speaker 1>you sorry? I speaking of Instagram, I have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about the skiing one that you did. Please tell

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<v Speaker 1>me the story surrounding that. Well, it's my birthday video.

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<v Speaker 1>I do this every year, and each year I think

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<v Speaker 1>the first year, I had a ski jacket on, but

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I had underwear and socks and ski boots obviously because

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I need the boots on. Then the second year I decided,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it. You know what, what let me just ski

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>down the hill topless with some underwear on, because you know,

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>my brothers are still alive, so they don't need to

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:37.479
<v Speaker 1>see my Pikachu. Where is this? Where are you doing? Whistler, Canada?

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a ski place up in Whistler, So I

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<v Speaker 1>love skiing. It's like my everything and I and I

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>love Margarita and a joint and so I implemented the

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>ski video and I just kind of up at each year.

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So this year we went into the back country and

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>we took our sleds up you know skis. Wow, that's serious.

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 1>And I have Joe this year because you know, I

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>newly in love and yes, and he was there, so

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I had to incorporate him into the video and so

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<v Speaker 1>we had to do a proper shoot. And I love it.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Joe seems very playful. I love how

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<v Speaker 1>playful you two seen with each other. It's it's very inspiring. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I know that you're newly in love as well,

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>justin so I want to say a big congratulations to you. Yes,

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and she loves you. She is a really big fan

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of yours. Personally, I like her as well. I do.

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I am I allowed to say her name is that okay, yeah, yeah,

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of out there. Ye, Kate Bosworth is who

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you're dating. And it's a new love affair. And I

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>was really excited to hear about you being in love.

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 1>So tell me a little bit about that, because I

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>just want to know how you're feeling. I mean, you

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 1>must be through. I know that, I know the feeling.

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel it too, and it's pretty intoxicating, it is.

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>It's such a wonderful feeling that you were so open.

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I love how open you are with your happiness and

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>your joy, and but there's something about it for me

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that I feel like I need to protect and keep

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sacred because it feels sacred. It's just the you know,

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the best. Katherine. I don't know what your situation is,

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>but yes, married for a long time, but oh good,

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>still in love, still in love. That's it's different. Well,

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>look at us, the three of us, I know, just

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>thriving as elderly people, basically elderly elderly folks in love.

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's um, we've been laughing so much and I've

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>never had anything like this before. I've never experienced this,

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>so it's something I want to protect and keep you know,

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you know her, so you know how amazing she is. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>she is amazing. And I respect that. I totally get

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that you want to protect that. It's a funny feeling

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>because it is something you want to shout from the rooftops,

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I know. And for me, whenever Joe and I like

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>have an argument or anything like that, I'm like, fuck,

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>why was I so public about it? What if we

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>break up, Like I'm staying here shouting from the rooftops

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>how sadly and love I am with this man, And

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>then if it falls apart of the seems, I'm going

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to basically be there sitting. You know, no one's ever

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna believe me about being in love again. So I

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>totally get it. I get that, you know that is

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the smart move. I'm just so open and over Sherry

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that that's my personality. No zero Chelsea, zero judgment. I

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>in fact, I'm one of the people that I bask

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>in your the glow of your love. I before I

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>found my own, I was so happy for you, and

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>it was inspiring to me to like find somebody that

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you really laughed with, you seem to really enjoy one another.

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I had never really been able to distill what it

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>all is, and you know, people say, well, what are

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you looking for? And people have checklists, and I've done

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>movies about it, and it's really like satisfying to be

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 1>able to distill it down to just really enjoying somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>company and wanting to be near them. And like I said,

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>we just laughed so much. I feel so grateful. And

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I know that instinct. I have that instinct to like

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>shout it from the rooftops. I really do. So it's

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I'm kind of gingerly stepping around it

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is because I'm going against that instinct, which which I

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>totally get it. I think the moral of the story,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>without getting into details about your relationship, is that for me,

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it was very inspiring, not only to other people but

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to myself to fall in love at this age, to

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>meet the person well even though I knew him, but

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to fall in love at forty six. You know, there

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>was a period of time where I really just assumed that,

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>like I was too tough for any man to have

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to deal with, Like it was just going to be

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>too bunch of a of a hill to climb for

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>any man. And I accepted that, like Okay, that's not

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to get in this life. I've gotten

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, and I have a great family,

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a great group of friends and a great network,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's all I get, and that's okay, I'm

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be grateful. But isn't that the best place

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to be when it does then enter your life? I mean,

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I was in a similar situation. I hadn't

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't totally resigned myself to it, but I was

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so happy. I was so content being on my own

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and I had a great network of friends and my

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>brother and we were we were creative, We've been creative.

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I was close with my family. I didn't feel this

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>pressure of having to find someone, having to make something work.

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I just I was really content with life. I was

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>really quite satisfied with with where I was. And I

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 1>guess that's the most open place you can be. Yeah,

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to be in a healthy place

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to attract a healthy person, right, I think so? Yeah,

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You have to be happy with yourself

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and you have to have self love and self care.

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I have a lot of respect for myself, probably

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>more so than everybody else. That's so in order for

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>someone to grab my attention, they have to have that

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>same amount of respect a for themselves and be for me,

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you know totally. Well, well, because you think, what's the

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 1>point when you are good in life, when you are

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>settled whatever that means, but I mean just being happy

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>with yourself, I guess it's that. Then you think, well,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>why why change it? To change it, it requires something

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like exceptionally positive I think, like a truly positive change

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>in life, and one that you you can't avoid. That

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 1>is unmistakable, I think. And so I've experienced that positive

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>change and I'm so grateful, and I just hope it

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>keeps going well. Great. On that note, I think we're

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>going to take some callers because you're going to impart

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>your wisdom and your life, your lifelong wisdom that you've learned,

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>your life learned wisdom, and we're gonna have people. Some

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>will be writer writing in, some will be calling in,

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and we're just going to give them advice, life advice.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>People take this podcast pretty seriously, justin even though you're

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>on it, they're still going to take it seriously. You

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta be you gotta bring your a game. Okay, Okay,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I will try. Okay, Catherine's going to start for us.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we have? First of all, give us a

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>prelude of what we have in store for us to

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, actually some wedding stuff, interestingly, and there's

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a couple of questions that I wanted really to get

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a straight guys perspective on, because we don't have a

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of straight men as guests on this show. So okay, yes, yes,

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and some like general life stuff which I feel like

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>it's great works right with what your podcast has to

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>do with and straight men are often not called upon

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>these days. Friend's advice is invalid, So that's why we

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>came hiad This is a very small part of the show. Yeah,

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I think we've had Jokoy and you. You are a

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>good company. All Right, We're gonna take a quick break

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back, and we're back with our

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>guests today, justin long and Catherine, and we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear our first email. Yes it's an email, Dear Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>As wedding season fast approaches, my husband and I have

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>entered what feels like an impossible situation. We have two

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>weddings on the same day. One is for a family

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>friend my husband has known since he was a small child.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>All of his friends will be there and we've been

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it all year. However, the other wedding,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>my husband has been requested to be a groomsman in.

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't know any of the other attendees, and on

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>top of that, I will be nine months it's pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't even really know if we'll be able

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to attend at all. What do we tell the second

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>wedding it's a friend who was also a groomsman in

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>our wedding? Is it fucked up if we don't go

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<v Speaker 1>help Nicole? Oh? Well, first of all, are you taking

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>notes justin? Yeah? I love it. I love that family

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>friends and small child, all his friends. I'm so curious

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>what your thoughts are because I I share her. This

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>is a problem that I've had before, excuses to get

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>out of things. Well, first of all, I think it's

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>very simple because whoever invited you first, which it sounds

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like the first person did. Like, once you've been invited

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and accepted and r s v P to a wedding,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you can't reneg on that, like or you can, but

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like the other person, if that invitation came in second,

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and let's just pretend for the sake of argument that

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it did. That's all you have to say is, oh

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>my god, we've already committed to a wedding on this day.

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I would have loved to be there

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>for you, you know. I mean, it's pretty simple. But

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>did she say that because one of them, I'm just like,

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.719
<v Speaker 1>just based on their closeness and how much value they

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>have as friends, the first one sounds far closer to

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>than the other one. Yeah, But the other one is

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>asking him to be a groomsman, so it's a little bit.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>And he was a groomsman and his thing. I think,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like she mentioned not knowing anybody who's going to be

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>at the second wedding, that's irrelevant, And don't even bring

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that up because that's not why you go to someone's

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>wedding to based on how many people you know, Yeah,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and then how close you are to those getting married, right, Yeah,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>well but he was a groomsman and that guy's wedding,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>so you got to return the favor. But if you've

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>already committed to a wedding, then you can't go to

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>two weddings in one day. That's just not physically possible.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And if it is and you can swing that, then

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>your husband can try to do that. But I mean,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I doubt that's she doesn't say the locations right now,

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and probably not as a groomsman, but like you know, so, yeah,

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't think it's that big of a deal.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So you say you accept the first one, You've already

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>accepted an offer, You've already r s v P to one,

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and so then you have to tell the other one.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Regardless of how close you are to them, you have

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to just tell them, I'm sorry, I have a wedding

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that we've already committed to a wedding. There's nothing I

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>can do. I'm so sorry, and you know I would

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>love to make up to make this up to you

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>after my wife. I certainly can't swing two weddings in

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>one day with a nine month pregnant wife. That's just

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. You're right. I overthink these things though, too,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I think, well, if the person does, which

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>has happened to me, if they do hold it against you,

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a good indicator that maybe maybe it's

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>time to move on as friends. Yeah, and if you

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know anyone who's at the next wedding that you

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>were a groomsman too, or then he was a groopser too.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>That is kind of weird, and that's an indication that

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>your friendship isn't that close. So that's true. Maybe he'll

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>be weirdly relieved that you maybe somebody else he'd right,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe feel some obligation to to let you be a groomsman. Right,

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Yeah, exactly, So I don't think

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that big of a deal. So what's her name again, Nicole?

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, Kerry Nicole. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>just our just you know, have him call and just

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm so sorry, buddy, like sorry that this happened

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>on the same date. Do you struggle with excuses? It's

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just you seem like somebody who's very honest, very direct.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>If you don't want to go to something, do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever say, you know, I'd rather just not go. Yeah,

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just very honest with my friends. I just say

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm brought up for it, or like, you know, if

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I do something happened, I tell them what happened, and

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to call people if I if I have

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel. I like to call them directly and just

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>explain why instead of a text. And I liked yes,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And I like to just say that's nice. That's interesting

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because I have a problem sometimes getting off the phone.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>When I'm on the phone with somebody. I I sometimes

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>avoid phone calls. But for this very reason, I'm not

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 1>good at ending phone calls. You know, I tried to

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>do the wine down, and oftentimes people won't pick up

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>on that. I have a friend Jerry O'Connell. If you've

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>ever had him on your show, he's the best that

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>he'll just say okay, anyway if he senses the slightest

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>bit of wine down in your voice, like well so anyway,

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>he'll go okay, see him and he hangs up. It's amazing. Yeah,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's lovely. Yeah. I just say like, okay, let me

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>wrap this up. I've out to go to bed. I

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>just always go, okay, listen, I'd love to talk more

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>about I gotta wrap this up because I gotta go

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>do this and whatever it is I've got to do.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>You know what, if you don't have to do anything,

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that's this is what I'm saying. If I don't have

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to do anything, yeah, like during the pandemic, it was

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>hard to come up with the ex quarantine. It's like,

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I know you have nothing to do. I freaking hate

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>talking on the phone. I gotta be honest with you.

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I try not to get stuck on the phone. But

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>if I'm in crisis, or any of my friends are

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in crisis, then I make the time for phone calls.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>But if it's just to catch up or whatever, you know,

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like I just got to hop on another call.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I have a work call in ten minutes. I have

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>this in ten minutes. No, I don't want to wrap

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.399
<v Speaker 1>this up. Okay, okay, but don't wrap this up because

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>we actually haven't talked to somebody. Stay on. Well, our

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>next email, and this is just an email. She felt

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>it was a little too personal to talk about over

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the phone with us, But Jay says, Dear Chelsea, I'm

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine and I've been married for thirteen years. We

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>have an eleven year old son and have had our

0:34:56.440 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>ups and downs, but overall a happy marriage. Just this week,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I innocently looked through my husband's phone and saw that

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he had been texting another woman. These texts were sexual, flirty,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and inappropriate in nature. This has crushed me. He says

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing happened in person, he has shown remorse and says

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>he will fight for our marriage. He even said he

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.439
<v Speaker 1>would see a therapist, which is something he never would

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>have done in the past. So I guess my question

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is how do I get over this. I want to

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 1>save our marriage, but I don't know if I can

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>get over this and move on. Where do I go

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>from here? Jay m That's yeah, man, that is really hard.

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, Jay. You know I'm in no way

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>an authority on this guy. I've never been with somebody

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>doing thirteen year marriage. I don't know, Chelsea Katherine, what

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 1>do you guys think? I do think that there's space

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to work through something like this, Like I know couples

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>who have come back from stuff that felt very ugly

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>or felt like in this space where it's cheating, but

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it's supposedly not you know what I mean. It's like

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not in person, Dada. That's tricky ground because I don't

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>know it is in the sense that they were finding

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>satisfaction and they were being intimate with somebody else. That

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 1>is I would feel very betrayed. That would be really hard,

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And then I got trust with trust is always the

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>hardest thing I think to rebuild and if you lose that,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>in my experience, it's been hard to regain that after

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>after an offense like that. I don't know, because you

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>have to think if that's in that person's psyche, if

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>they if they have that impulse that they're acting on

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to the point where there are multiple you know that

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>there they're engaging in that. To actually pick up a

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>phone and text the things, that's all very deliberate. That

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that means that that person has those and everyone i'm

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>sure is has moments of attraction or you know, but

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.439
<v Speaker 1>to act on it like that as a betrayal, it's different. Yeah,

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a real betrayal. It doesn't feel good to be

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>reading those things at all. It's a punch in the

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>especially after being with somebody for so long. But listen,

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you had an instinct and you weren't wrong. Who cares

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.720
<v Speaker 1>about checking his phone? I mean, if you've checked someone's

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>phone and you find something, then you were right. And

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any boundaries about that. And I don't

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>care if my boyfriend checks my phone, you know what

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for him like, there's nothing fine, so go

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>for it. But there's always space for healing. You never know,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>this could be a huge opportunity for growth for you too.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You could actually the fact that he's willing to go

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 1>to counseling over this, it's very important you should take

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>him up on that. Do not do not like defer

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that to another time or postpone it. Hop on that

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>right now because clearly there is a chasm between the

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>two of you that has been created, which is why

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he's talking to somebody else. And you want to make

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>sure that the first time is the last time. He

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>disrespected your relationship, a disrespected your child, he disrespected you,

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and you need to go to a counselor and have

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with him and continue to go until you

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>build a more stronger foundation so that you're never going

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to have a desire to check his phone because there's

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be anything there. You know, was so well said,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>What great advice. It's true there should be room for

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>growth and a person of a personal evolution and there

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I love therapy, Chelsea. That was really impressive. Well, thank you.

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think people sometimes make mistakes and we don't

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>want to just we don't want to just cancel them

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>like you can't do that. Just let people understand you've

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>been hurt, and if they are a deep enough person

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>or worthwhile enough, I should say, they're going to recognize

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that they caused you pain and they're gonna want to

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>correct that pain. You know. So I think it's okay,

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not. Your relationship isn't over. You can't throw that

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>relationship away because every relationship has ups and downs, and

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it's how you handle the downs that is the most

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>important thing. How do you deal with that? Can you

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>be and have a conversation with him, with the third

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>party who hears both of you and gets to the

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>root of the issue, and then disconnect And that is

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>totally plausible. And I think it's hard for a lot

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>of people to be vulnerable and to admit certain things

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>that they're In this case, something is lacking. There's some

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>intimacy component that is lacking. And that's a hard thing

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>to say to somebody that you love. You don't want

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to hurt somebody. But I think through therapy there's an opportunity,

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 1>like you said, to be really honest with one another

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and and like you also said, it would make you

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot them, a lot stronger, a lot more intimate

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and also just something to remember you can get over

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>almost anything, Like, don't think you'll never get over this.

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fresh. It's a fresh wound. So it feels like

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be interminable. Write that down, justin but

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be. It's you can get over this.

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he had an affair. And even if

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>that had happened, that's a possible thing to get over

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>to for many, many people. So just let's you know,

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just focus on the here and now and repairing what

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>has happened and just getting to the bottom of it

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and let us know what happens. Yeah, find uself a

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>real good couples counselor, and you know, stick with it, because,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>after all, there is a kid involved to the most

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>sagacious one possible, most interminably sagacious one possible. Yeah, it's funny,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking up sagacious and just as the quality of

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>being Oh it's I see having her showing keen mental

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>discernment and good judgment. Shrewd, shrewd. Yeah, discerning, Yeah, discerning.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>It's the opposite of it's a good word, specious, it's

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of fucking moron. Is what it's Yes, that

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>is true. That's one of these Yeah, fucking moron an Yeah, perfect, Well,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>our first caller today is Cammy. Cammy, says dear Chelsea.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>In about two months, I'm marrying my best friend and

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the love of my life, and I'm beyond excited about it. However,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>shortly after, my dad is getting remarried too, to a

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 1>girl the same age as me. We'll call her Sally.

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Sally is a funny name for like when you're really

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>hung up on somebody's age. It's a young sounding name. Yes, yeah, Sally.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>We even have the same color hair, and my dad,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>being an old guy, frequently mixes up our names when

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we're together. It makes me extremely uncomfortable and, to be honest,

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a little sad every time I try to bring up

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my wedding to my dad in hopes that he'll be excited,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>supportive and wanting to help. All I get is well

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Sally did this for our wedding, and Sally also went

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to a bachelorette party this weekend, and Sally and I

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>went kick tasting. Did you get cake? It's extremely exhausting

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like a job to the heart. Every

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 1>time I talked to him. I'm struggling to find ways

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to tell him that I just want the next couple

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of months to be about my wedding and all the

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>things that come with it. Cammy, Wow, Hi Cammy video.

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>She zoomed in. Hi, Cammy. This is our guest today,

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Justin and this is my co host Catherine. Hi. So

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>nice to be here him, so nice to see you. Yeah,

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful day. I got a glass of wine.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, it's heyday. She works at a vineyard. Oh, perfectly,

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>then you should always have a glass of wine. So,

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>cam is the issue that his wedding is competing with

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>your wedding? Or is the issue that you know, she's

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 1>your age? What's the bigger Did they already get married? No,

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>so they're getting married in July. I'm getting married in May,

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's shortly after. Um. So it's not necessarily that

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it's competing. It's just every time I try to bring

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it up, and you know, he's supposed to be like

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>part of my wedding and it's always talking about his wedding.

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Is he doing that in an effort to relate to you?

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, sometimes people try to find commonality and

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they say, like, oh, I just you know,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I almost stepped on a frog that's so funny a

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. I I also almost. That's a

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.240
<v Speaker 1>terrible analogy. But is he doing it in an effort

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>to to feel closer to you know, move the conversation. Um,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess that could probably be it. I mean that

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 1>he is probably trying to find common ground between it all.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But he never listens to when I talk about anything

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about my wedding. It's always he's always thinking about there's

0:42:57.120 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>never response to a single answer to what I'm planning

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>for the whole wedding. So okay, Well, I think what

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>your action needs to be is to sit down and

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation or write him an email, whatever you prefer.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I think face to face for this would be best

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're comfortable with that, And to explain to him

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're planning on being married for one time in

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>your life and it's coming up in a month or

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>in two months, whatever time in May, and that this

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is the only time in your life that you have

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate this time, and that your father is your

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>only father, and that you need him to be present

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>for your event, and once that's done and over, then

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>he can be focused on his own marriage. It's it's

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 1>marginalizing your experience and you need him. You need to

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>share this experience with him, and that can be said

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in a really loving way, like Dad, I want to

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>be able to share this experience with you without it

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>being about you all the time and your wedding. You're

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>my dad, Like I need you here for me, just

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>for this amount of time, you know, can you do

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that for me? I don't think that's how asking a lot.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>It's one thing that you're even getting married so close

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to when I'm getting married. That wasn't necessary. I'm willing

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>to accept that. But I need your attention focused on me. Yeah, definitely.

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I it's always like one of those conversations. The thing

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was like I'm gonna say that and then it's so

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>much harder to say it than an actuality. If I

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>can add to that which I can't improve upon it.

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>But I would say I found a lot of value

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>in writing things. I know it sounds like cheesy and

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe basic, but like when I have to have those

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 1>heavy conversations, I find a lot of value in writing

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>down a clear intention. You know, my intention for this

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is to communicate this and and and just boil it

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>down to the essence of what you want to say

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to your father. And Chelsea said it so perfectly, so

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I would just actually write down exactly what she said,

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but have it so you can reference, because especially when

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you're face to face things emotions get involved and he

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>might try to he might deflect and avoid this the

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>substance of what you're saying. But if you have it

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>written down in front of you, you can always go

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>back to reference the intention of what you're trying to communicate.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that really helps. Yeah, that's a great ideas,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a great suggestion finally from Justin. You should write that

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>down and you can even write what you want to

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>say in a letter and read it to him to

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 1>his face. But I think with a father and daughter dynamic,

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>it's more powerful to just sit in front of him

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and show him. And it's got to be with so

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>much love, you know, like I love you that I

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>want to have this moment with you. This is the

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 1>one time in my life that I get to have

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>this experience hopefully, and I want to share it with you,

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and I want you to be present for me, you know,

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And how meaningful your relationship is, and just try and

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>make it all about the positive things and that there's

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a time to celebrate your wedding and then there will

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>be a time to celebrate his, yeah, and and validate

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>his his thing too, because it sounds like he might

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be trying to overcompensate for having feeling. Maybe he doesn't

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like you've totally embraced his situation. Maybe he maybe

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that's why he keeps bringing it up and overpowering your

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>wedding stuff. But Chelsea, it was so well said. I

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>think you have to really let him know that you

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>know you're you're your daughter, and he's got to be

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>there for you, and he's got to hold his space

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>for you during this time. I might also let me

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to add to the bottom of the letter that he

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>really needs to think about whose name he's saying, Oh,

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>that's wild? In what context does he messing it up?

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Like We'll be like sitting and having dinner and he'll

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, Sally, Oh, I mean not Cammy, and

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, in reality, our name is kind of rhyme,

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's actually quite h Did you laugh about it? Like?

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.759
<v Speaker 1>What what's your reaction when it happened this Sally is

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Sally like, oh geez, I don't know. I just go

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>dead silent, and I'm like, oh Jesus, not again. If

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I helped to laugh about are you close? I agree?

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is just laught like that is

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>something to laugh at. You know, it's ridiculous that your

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>father's get us in your name with his girlfriends real

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.879
<v Speaker 1>is a true chestament to his age. How how old

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>is he? A sixty three? Okay, well he's not battle

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's with it enough for you to have

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with him about this and for him to

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>understand that it's a little bit you know, inappropriate his

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>what what's your How does your mother factor into all

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of this? She's quite the comical one about is she

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>hates it because every everything to say about this is

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>she remarried. She is. Yeah, she's happily remarried to a

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 1>wonderful man. We love him. Oh good good. But other

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>than the age thing, I mean, which I know bothers,

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you do you like Sally herself? I mean, do you

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>guys get along? To be honest, I've only really had

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a few conversations with her. Try to keep my distance

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>so well, maybe maybe you'd wanna not Maybe you want

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to kind of lean into it instead of keeping your distance.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's an opportunity to, as hard as it might

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 1>be too to you know, reach out to her and say, hey,

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>we should let's let's see, I don't know, try to

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>connect with her. That might be bothering your dad. That

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the reasons. I don't mean to keep

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>defending him men men defending each other, um, but that

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>there might be some reason why he keeps over compensating,

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and mentioning her. Yeah. Yeah, And I think

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>also like this is your time, this is your moment,

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know, your relationship with her can develop over time,

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>which is a more natural way for things like that

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen, like force it. Yeah, you don't have to

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.919
<v Speaker 1>rush into that, like you know, you can even relay

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that to your father, like I'm I'm totally willing to

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>support you and be there for you. I need this

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 1>from you. I'm asking you. I'm sitting in front of

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you asking you to be here for me. And this

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.479
<v Speaker 1>is your daughter, it's not Sally, just so you know, Yeah,

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and wear a big nameplate on your clear Yeah. No,

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>that's definitely very helpful and just stutting boundaries. I think

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it's to be really important and yes, maybe getting to

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>know her a little bit better, but it's pretty weird

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to relate to her because obviously we have a lot

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of common being for the same age. Yeah, out, No,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's a it's an icky thing for

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>girls to have to deal with their father's girlfriends that

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>are the same age them. It just makes you question

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things. So I can relate to that.

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, as long as you're not taking it

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 1>out on her, you know whatever, Like she's irrelevant really

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>at this point, it's more about your dad's you know,

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>attention span and understanding of this time in your life

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and how important it is to you. Yes, absolutely so.

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like that's a conversation that you can

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>have with him, Yes, but I think I'm going to

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>have to write it down because they're also going to

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>say I don't mean yeah, yeah, And take your time

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>with the conversation. Try not to be reactive if he

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>says something that brings it up, you know, just try

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and take a breath, because I do. You don't want

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that conversation to escalate. You really want it to land.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.439
<v Speaker 1>So even if he says stuff, just take a breath

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and go, you know, like, don't respond in a way

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that is going to like denude the entire meaning of

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>your conversation. You know, you really want to have an

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>impact with it, So meditate before, write down your intentions,

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>write down what you want to say, and then go

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in like you are just going to win this conversation,

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And I think when you're applying to

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>his like nature as a dad, like I need you

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to just be like my dad walking me down the aisle,

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>go to that sentimental place, and I think he'll he'll

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>be very much on your team. It's such a good point. Yeah, well,

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much, Cammie. Yeah. Yeah, you on your

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>dad's marriage, on your on your on your wedding. Yes,

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited. It was so nice to be on

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 1>this show. And Chelsea, I'm so excited I get to

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>do in a couple of weeks live So how awesome

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>in Santa Rosa? Oh cool? Santa Rose? Is that where

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you work? I yeah? Close by? Oh okay, cool? Okay, Well,

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>let us know, like follow up and let us know

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>how the conversation with your dad went and if he

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was able to hear you. Yeah, thank you so much. Okay,

0:50:55.000 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>thanks Kavy c sup by Oh what a sweetie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad. When my mom died, we found my

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>father naked in the kitchen with his cleaning lady. About

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>two weeks later, as my mom was dying, she said

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, your father is a piece of work, and

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys are all about to find out how fucked

0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>up he is. She didn't stay fucked up because she

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>never cursed. But she never cursed, so she was She

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:19.840
<v Speaker 1>was like the opposite of me. She was quiet and demure,

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, wait, I she said, I will

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>be laughing at you in heaven when you find out

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 1>what I've been protecting you girls from and my father.

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Within two weeks, my brother Roy text us going just

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>went over to check on dad. His cleaning lady was

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>naked in the kitchen cleaning while my father had his

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>pants down sitting on the couch. And I just thought

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to myself, thank God, my mother is in heaven and

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>not privy to this. And then I looked up and

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I just smiled at her, like you were right all along,

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and I yeah, yeah, and then I ate, Then I

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 1>ate an orange and started laughing with my mother in heaven.

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's wild. You're so, did you're did your

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 1>dad end up remarrying or did you know? I think

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he just slept with all the people that worked at

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.359
<v Speaker 1>the house, so, you know, but I mean, I don't

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>even think my father was in any physical condition to

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 1>be having sex, So I think it was more of

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>just like a voyeuristic you know, you know what I mean. Yes,

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>so we don't really need to delve any further. But

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. But you you, yeah, so you can relate

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to a daughter marrying somebody young, yea father marrying it

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 1>if he had had been spry enough by the time

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>my mother died, Like he completely fell apart when my

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.240
<v Speaker 1>mom died, had he been able to keep his ship together,

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 1>he definitely would have brought some women around. That would

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.240
<v Speaker 1>have been a hard pill to swallow for my family

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and I yeah, and my family and me, excuse my grammar.

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Are your parents still married? They're still married,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 1>And I can't imagine, mean, even if they weren't, I'm

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to imagine like what that would be like. I

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>guess it's different for guys. Maybe there's I think there's

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>something uniquely strange maybe for a young you know, for

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a daughter to have her father dating somebody her age,

0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to I don't know, just just the

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>sexual implications that it brings up. And yeah, right right, strange, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I also wonder if Sally feels just as weird about it.

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>She probably feels weird about having a step daughter to

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be that it's her age. Now I'm I'm kind of

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>contradicting what I said earlier about wanting to respect the elderly,

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.560
<v Speaker 1>but I have to question, and I shouldn't, but I do.

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I find myself questioning the person that age their motivation

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>for being with somebody who is sixty three, just because

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it'd be so hard to relate to

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody that much younger. Yeah. Yeah. I had a driver

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.320
<v Speaker 1>this weekend who said that he has a girlfriend. He

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was seventy three and his girlfriend is thirty three and

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a forty year age difference. And man, I said it, really, like,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>how does that work out? He goes, great, it's my

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>third wife. You know. When I when I got married,

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh wow, you know, I was sixty and

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 1>she was twenty and and I'm like, and what drugs

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>was she smoking? That she was attracted to a six

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 1>year old man, and when I was forty two she

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:20.320
<v Speaker 1>was too. That's crazy. So just that disturbed me. I

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, I guess it depends on what at that

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>age you value and if you value enough, if you

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>value youth and that whatever, that person's vitality, enough, hotness,

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 1>if you value that enough that it's enough to overwhelm

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the lack of common ground and inability to have like

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a really like challenging conversation. I don't know, maybe, Yeah,

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I tried not to be too judgy because, like, you know,

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>some people really are in love. Like when I was

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty I dated. When I was twenty two, I dated

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a thirty six year old and that was a pretty

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 1>big age difference. And I but I was a baby.

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I was. So I had the biggest crush

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on this guy. You know, why he was dating me

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 1>is a separate issue, but so show I try not

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to be too judgy because you know, people do fall

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in love at different ages in their lives, so it's

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>not all it's not all badly motivated or motivated for

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the wrong reasons. Yeah, that's true. Well. Our next email

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>comes from Mary. We are old people in love, so

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>hopefully we can give some advice to you with this

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>very young person and love. Dear Chelsea. I'm nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with my boyfriend for a year now, since

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<v Speaker 1>I was eighteen. In the past six months, I've accepted

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that I'm bisexual, and I had a conversation with him

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.879
<v Speaker 1>about that when I was ready. He accepted my sexuality,

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>but my attraction to something he can't give me made

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>him a little insecure. I had little time to explore

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>many sexual or relationship experiences before being with him. Since

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the conversation, I've had the recurring thought that I'm so

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>young and have so much to experience. I'd like to

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.239
<v Speaker 1>be with a woman, but I don't foresee myself ending

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 1>things with him, and we're not polyamorous people. If he

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.520
<v Speaker 1>was okay with it, I'd like to explore my sexuality

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>while still loving him, but I would not be okay

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>with him experiencing other women. He's very straight. If he

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>had the need to explore his sexuality and wanted to

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>see men, I would be okay with it. The advice

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I need is how should I empathetically approach a conversation

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like this to a sensitive person like him. Also, is

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it too early in the relationship to ask about something

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like this? Is it better to bring this up years

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.479
<v Speaker 1>down the road when we have established even more trust

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>than we already have. Ps A threesome is off the table, thanks, Mary.

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Got a lot of rules, very strict boundaries, Yeah, a

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of boundaries yet, okay, conflicting boundaries? Yeah, okay, Well

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I think a you need to bring it up immediately.

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 1>There's that is dishonest to lead somebody on without giving

0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:58.240
<v Speaker 1>them all the facts and all the information. You're very clear,

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 1>or you seem to be very here about what your

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>desires are and what your boundaries are, so you just

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>all all you need. All you can do is present

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>them in an honest way and accept whether or not

0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.279
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be okay with that. And if he's

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 1>not going to be okay with that, then you need

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to respect that as well and either end the relationship

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.960
<v Speaker 1>based on what you want to do moving forward or

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>except that you're not going to be able to act

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>like that within the countfines of that relationship. But you

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>cannot lie to him or lead him on. You have

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to give everyone the information they need, and then there

0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone is allowed to make their own choice for themselves.

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to decide how your boyfriend is going

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to exist within a relationship. A year's plenty of time

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to lay it on the table. Yes, that's a well said,

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you're so good at this. I mean, I hope that

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound so it's true. I was, I was like,

0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>what is that? Because I guess the proposition is that

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 1>she wants to be with women while still being with him,

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>but she doesn't want him to be with anybody anybody else,

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>but she wants to be allowed to be with other people. Yeah,

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty tough put. He could be with a

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>man if he wants to. Yeah, but he there's he

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>showed no indication of being kidd or bi sexual, So like, yeah,

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>so what Yah, what if a woman were to dress

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 1>as a man, or to identify maybe as a man,

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>or said she you know, you could maybe fudge the

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>rules a little bit. Yeah, there's a lot of fudging

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>for the rules. I just think she's the nineteen Like,

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>when you're nineteen, you are changing, you're learning about yourself,

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's easy to want the best of both worlds,

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I want us to love him, but I want

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to experiment. You don't know that there's space for that.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I know I have a feeling she'll look back and think, Oh,

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish I hadn't strung him along or been I

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>wish I had, you know, maybe ended things sooner, been

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>honest sooner, because there's so much to explore at nineteen.

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've got the whole It's it's Mary, Mary,

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you have the whole world to explore. You're so you know,

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it's such a great time to be unfettered. So I

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for his her boyfriend, but um, well yeah

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. And just you know, Mary, something to remember

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is like whatever you put out is coming back at you.

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That's like just the law of physics. You know, there's

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>an action, there's a reaction. So you want to treat

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>him with the same amount of respect that you want

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to be treated with, because down the road, if you

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>don't treat him with respect, someone's gonna come along and

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:30.959
<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna do that to you and you're not gonna

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like it. So you have to treat him with all

0:59:33.920 --> 0:59:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the honesty, even if it's uncomfortable and it hurts you.

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>You have to treat him with all that honesty and

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 1>respect and be as honest as you can, and then

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>it's up to him whether or not he's willing to

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 1>accept that. It sounds like she is. She wrote a

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>really he's very honest in her letter and yeah, yeah,

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 1>so just get onto Mary, just you know, deal with

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the subject matter, and then you know, who knows, Maybe

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys take a break, maybe you go explore your

0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings of bisexuality, and maybe you come right back to

1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 1>him and think, wait, this is what I want. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a whole new world for you that you're

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<v Speaker 1>postponing by prolonging it by being in a relationship. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had her a normative relationship. Yeah, I'm always so

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<v Speaker 1>curious at what that moment is. She said she accepted

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<v Speaker 1>it six months ago. I'm always wondering what the catalyst.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's not one particular thing, but I'm always curious

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<v Speaker 1>at that age when when somebody's you know, had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years of sexuality, let's say, or being a

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<v Speaker 1>sexualized person. Mary right back and let us know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know, Mary, what happened triggered your bisexuality? And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what triggered it? And act with integrity, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're nineteen, and sometimes integrity doesn't come to us

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<v Speaker 1>until we're a little bit older. But try to get

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<v Speaker 1>after it. Yeah. So this person who wrote in is

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<v Speaker 1>going by younger than I sound, Dear Chelsea, She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty seven, and I've manifested myself into living a

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<v Speaker 1>very small life. I have a computer job, and I

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<v Speaker 1>work from home. I live out of state from my family,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was dumped last year. We didn't survive the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, anyway, did you ever have a year or

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<v Speaker 1>two in your twenties, even late twenties like me, where

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<v Speaker 1>you were all alone doing it all yourself. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thrive in my career, independence and living alone, but

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<v Speaker 1>I usually just feel like a sixty five year old

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<v Speaker 1>widow living alone with her cats and waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>next big HBO show to come out. Younger than I sound,

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<v Speaker 1>she sounds funny and sweet. I have felt that way

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties. I would try to fill that void, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was going out and drinking and drugs, relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't have been in. But I in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's doing a really healthy thing by by

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<v Speaker 1>being by herself and kind of expressing those feelings of

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<v Speaker 1>loneliness maybe, and on we and on we. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so curious what Chelsea's going to say, because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling, and I don't think I behaved in a

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<v Speaker 1>as healthier way as younger than I sound as behaving.

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<v Speaker 1>She she's actually she sounds older. Yeah, you do sound older,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's okay. I think everybody goes through different phases

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<v Speaker 1>in their lives. I just read a book for my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Lily Saying wrote a book called Be a Triangle and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a short read. I read it in an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, like you can pick it up and

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<v Speaker 1>put it down. But it's just a reminder that the

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<v Speaker 1>times in your life where you feel loneliest or just

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<v Speaker 1>are not forever. And there are a bunch of tools

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<v Speaker 1>there about creating a foundation for your life where you

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<v Speaker 1>can build on that you know and your your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself is really the most important one to be

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<v Speaker 1>focused on. And when you have a healthy relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and you're confident in the decisions you're making, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you can bring other people into your life in

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<v Speaker 1>a more meaningful way. Full circle. Yeah, that's when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier. Yeah, totally. And it's like this period

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<v Speaker 1>of time doesn't define you, you know, I totally. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a person in my twenties, and I was a

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<v Speaker 1>different person in my thirties, and I you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now in my forties and I'm a different person.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a recluse for like periods of time in

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties because it's just everyone just drove me fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I would TV, I would lie in bed for hours

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<v Speaker 1>a day, like for periods of like you know, sometimes months,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean interspersed with like activities, but like overall, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have termed to myself as a recluse. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to bars, I didn't want to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there were periods of time where that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I did was hang out and party and meet up

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<v Speaker 1>and hook up and and date. And then I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend and that would last for a year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that was my focus. And so there are we

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<v Speaker 1>have similar paths. Yes, yes, I wanted to touch the flame.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but then you find that you're a lot happier.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone's seeking happiness, I suppose, but I found

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<v Speaker 1>that I was a lot happier when I would just

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<v Speaker 1>settle and I was by myself, and I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to cultivate interests alone and in silence. There's something really

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, embrace that time because it won't last for long. Change.

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea's right, So it's a good time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cultivate your own thing and interests. And even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting around with your cats, being still in present

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<v Speaker 1>in the world is a beautiful thing. And coming to

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate nature and being alive is a really special thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't don't short change that. Yeah, and if you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I spend too much time alone, like, just add some

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<v Speaker 1>things to that. You know, go outside, go for a

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<v Speaker 1>hike once a day, or whatever outdoor activities you're interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>Go for a walk with your cat, or go for

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<v Speaker 1>a walk alone, or find a friend to go for

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<v Speaker 1>a walk with. Just like, incorporate little things that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to boost your mood. Being outdoor will always help

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<v Speaker 1>you be in a better mood and being a more

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<v Speaker 1>positive kind of headspace. So just remember that and also

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of add things to your life that does.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, make plans with a friend, make plans with

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<v Speaker 1>a relative, do things that are so you can see

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<v Speaker 1>if you enjoy that and if you want to continue

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, and you know, there's nothing wrong with spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time with yourself and using that time

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<v Speaker 1>wisely to kind of get to know yourself and what

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to accept in your life and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're not, you know, kind of setting standards for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. A man. Yes, sorry, what's that book? Be

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<v Speaker 1>a Triangle? Yeah? By Lily saying she just wrote it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was a guest on this show last season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a cute little book, and it's just about positive

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<v Speaker 1>relationships with yourself to remember that you don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times we spend our lives proving things

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<v Speaker 1>to other people when in in fact, your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and your spiritual relationship with the universe and nature

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<v Speaker 1>and touch and giving and instead of just receiving or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, giving instead of taking is just a huge

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<v Speaker 1>component of how to be a more well rounded person.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a lot of value in this book I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed Dr Mark Epstein on life is Short. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to pieces without following out Oh yeah, yeah. A

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<v Speaker 1>Buddhist perspective on wholeness. I've really found a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>value in that. And The xenop Therapy is his latest book.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind plugging all of his work, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like Mark Epstein. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, and taking

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<v Speaker 1>walks and being present in nature has really helped me

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<v Speaker 1>to I'm really rooting for this person. She sounds really

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<v Speaker 1>cool and sweet and yeah, yeah, I'm wishing you the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Younger than I sound. Yeah, younger than I sound. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you the best too, So don't be too harsh

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<v Speaker 1>with judgment on yourself. Okay, Yeah, take it easy, take

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<v Speaker 1>it slow, and you know, keep moving. Yeah. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and we'll be back to close

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Okay, we'll take a loof a break, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Justin, keep your hands where we can

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<v Speaker 1>see them. Okay, I'm just getting my loof and we're back. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back to close it out and justin. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any advice that you'd like from Chelsea. I've also

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<v Speaker 1>found myself getting now that I have the smart card,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a little bit more of a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>but getting my reactivity. You mentioned reactivity, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think so important for a lot of these colors. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been so important in my life to be aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the road, I still tend to get people

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<v Speaker 1>drive like maniacs here and I find myself getting very

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<v Speaker 1>reactive on the road. I had an encounter yesterday where

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<v Speaker 1>guy swerved into my lane and just to let him

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<v Speaker 1>know he was coming to my lane, I gave him

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<v Speaker 1>the bet beep. It wasn't an angry beat, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a pop up you're coming in and he

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the finger. It was wild, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what's me? And he started swerving purposefully into my lane

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<v Speaker 1>to because angry. Now, I don't know in those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really working on reactivity and I've loved meditation,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes those moments I find very challenging. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? I'm curious what you do on the road

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<v Speaker 1>if we're something like that to happen. I mean, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole therapy was about my reactivity. So I am able

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh at anyone who acts like that, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>able to go, oh God, that person is obviously having

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad day or time or life, Like no

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<v Speaker 1>one needs to give anyone the finger on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>like and it shouldn't you and you reacting to it

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<v Speaker 1>is just getting right down to his level instead of

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<v Speaker 1>elevating to your level. So I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing is, but recognizing that reaction in yourself is

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<v Speaker 1>the first step by going, Oh, I was just about

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<v Speaker 1>to give him the finger back, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that because this is so silly. We're driving

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<v Speaker 1>and superficially, I'm wondering if you can recommend a strain

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<v Speaker 1>of sativa that is inedible potentially good for driving. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that being out in the world, maybe younger than I

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<v Speaker 1>sound might want to try it on one of the

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<v Speaker 1>nature walks, just being a little bit more so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get you don't crash. I've been really crashing and

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<v Speaker 1>getting tired. Yeah, I like uh I I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>strong edibles during the daytime. I love. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular one are those Kiva blueberries, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. Those are light and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fun and giggly. And also another really light option are

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<v Speaker 1>those Breeze mints. They are two at point five milligrams

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<v Speaker 1>for really new beginners, and they're an upper Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun thing to like go outside and do something with.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are two good suggestions. I think great. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're so welcome justin. What a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up the episode. Yes, yeah, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible beginning, terrible beginning. We really really cleaned it out

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<v Speaker 1>of the end. It's a great ending. I'm really good

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<v Speaker 1>at endings. This was so fun. Thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me well, thank you for being here. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to see you again too. And I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in love. Congratulations. Tell Kate give her my

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<v Speaker 1>love for me. Well, I don't know if you heard her,

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<v Speaker 1>she said as she came in looking for she was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a plug. She said, hello, I did, okay, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you guys, and so nice to meet you. Catherine. Likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>give Kate my best. I will. Well, thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have a great day in Massachusetts and Connecticut justin. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, l and give my best I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope we all get to hang out one that'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Bye bye. So, if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Chelsea a question, email us at Dear Chelsea Project

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com.