1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: So the big question is this, how do investors like 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: us get access to the ideas, information, and most importantly, 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: the right people that give us the tools of information 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: we need to make informed and educated decisions to have success. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: That is the question, and this podcast will give us 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: the answers. This is Mark Moss, your host. Let's get 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: this started. Welcome to another episode of the Market Disruptors podcast, 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: and I am super excited to announce our guest today, 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Keanya Danielle, and she is from Investing Divas as well 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: as she's written the new book Cryptocurrency Investing for Dummy. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: She's been all over the news promoting this and we 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: have her here live. We're gonna ask her all the questions. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: She has amazing and fascinating background, having lived in three 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: different countries, and she really brings a whole new perspective 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to bit quinn, the blockchain and investing into it. And 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: you've gotta stay tuned because she's gonna give us our 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: biggest tips for investing in the space. So I'm super excited. 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and jump right into it. All right, 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Market Disruptors Podcast. Today we are 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: joined with Keyana Danielle, who is an amazing, fascinating guest. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: She has a she has a kind of a long 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: way around that she got into the investing space into 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Wall Street, and uh, I'm super happy to have her today. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna learn a lot, so welcome, Thank you for 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: having me. All Right, So, for everybody who isn't familiar you, uh, 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of all over the news lately. You have 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: a book that you've recently come out with, Cryptocurrency Investing 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: for Dummies, and I've seen mooting that all over the place. 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Yeah, there we go, Cryptocurrency Investing 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: for Dummies. And then you also have the invest diva 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: brand um where you also teach a lot about investing 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: into all different types of markets and so forth. Um, 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: so I want to talk about both of those. But 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: tell us for everybody listening who doesn't know about the 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: book and investing, but tell us about who you are 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: and how you got to where you are right now. Oh, 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: that's a very very long story. Let's make sure i'm not. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: Let let's start with actually where I started, because I 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: think that is. Let's start with you were in Japan 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: going to school, right, and that's what we heard as far. 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I wasn't even born in the US. 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I went to Japan to study electrical engineering because nothing 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: to do with investing. I was born in Iran, okay, 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: so um. I got a scholarge to go study there, 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: and I wasn't planning to stay there for long actually, 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: but I kind of went there. The first six months 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: was awesome, like, oh my god, was so cool. So 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I decided to stay and study for six years. Um. 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: But I was always the only girl in my class 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: and it was cool. At the beginning. I thought I'm 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna get hit on a lot, but I didn't. It 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: was like geeky Japanese guys, engineers, you know what he was. 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: Even anyways, it was kind of tough really to study 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: engineering in Japanese, and I was constantly looking for a 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: way out of it. And then two thousand eight market 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: crash happened. I had no idea about the markets, what 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: financial prices mean, who Lemon brothers are like. I had 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: literally zero understanding of the financial markets. But all I 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: could hear was that the US dollar is dropping, and 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm in Japan. I have Japanese yen, 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: and the US dollar is dropping. My family's in the US, 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: maybe I should buy the U. S dollar at the 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: cheaper price. So I was like, oh, this is gold, 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: so maybe I should do that. And I bought a 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: tiny bit of U. S. Dollar. I converted a little 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: bit of it. At the beginning, it was like, uh, 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: July two thousand eight. And then the next day I 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: went to the A T machine the dollar was even lower, Like, 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, I shouldn't have like exchange es today, 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: today's even lower. And every day I went to the 71 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: ATM machine it was even going low and lawn and lawer. 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what how can I automate this? Like 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to like buy you so at the bottom, 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Like what do I do? And Adam Nor like one 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: of my friends, are like hey, like it can trade 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: for us and even like use levelage and that of 77 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: them like what are you talking about? Like just trust him? 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: So he basically create a forest account for me. Uh. 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: We shorted dollar dollar yen and we had like this 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: profit taking limit order of the fourteen time leverage. I 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: had no idea what happened, but within a month I 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: made sellars and like, oh my god, this is so cool. 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: And so that's so that's how I was like, Okay, 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I want to really get into this and that at 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: that point, that was your first Uh you're an engineer, 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: you're in Japan, your that was your first step into investing. 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: But you had somebody there, I guess mentoring you. It 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: sounds like, so this was just a friend to help 89 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: me out. But that was enough for me to kind 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: of trigger the interest and investing, and I'm like, okay, 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: maybe I should like invest I started learning about it, 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: but it was so tough that I was like, maybe 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I shouldn't do myself. Maybe I should get a money 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: manager to do it for this first. This person that 95 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: helped you and knew about the forex market to knew 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: about leverage. They knew enough to point you in the 97 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: right direction, but not really enough to help you. That 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: was just a friend helping me. Yeah, he doesn't, he doesn't. 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: He didn't want to like teach me how to like 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: we just talked about it. Once you set up an 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: account and that was it. They just pointed you in 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: the right direction and you I still didn't know what's happening, 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: and I still didn't know exactly how I made the 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: ten dollar. I was like, oh, but this is cool, 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: but it was kind of complicated that I was like, 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: maybe I should just hire a money money manager to 107 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: do this for me. And that's what I did, and 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I hired somebody I don't know. This was called Frends 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Providence from the UK in Japan, I don't know. Anyways, 110 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: the guy completely scamped me, ran away with my money, 111 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: and that was enough for me. I was like, Okay, 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the student be that hard, I probably can't learn it. 113 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: So I just quit everything in Japan. I was like, 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to Wall Street. So I came to the 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: U S I started working on I got a job 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: on Wall Stroom within two weeks of my arrival, and 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: that's how I really started learning about how this whole 118 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: thing works. That is like ten years ago. So was 119 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: that a job on Wall Street? Yep? Wow? And actually 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: multiple so this one and that was. This one was 121 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: at a broker actually that was also doing shady stuff, 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, ah, this is interesting. I was 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: learning all about the back things like this, you know, 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: really horrible things that we were doing. Back broker doesn't 125 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: exist anymore. Um, But so then that is how I 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: decided to I learned about what's happening. And how to invest. 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: But I also learned how many people are losing money 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: because of the shady things that are going down. So 129 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: that's how I kind of became passionate about educating people 130 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: who were like me who wanted to invest it in 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: where to start and had started and we're losing money. 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Because that is how I realized the first time I 133 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: met money in Florence, I really got lucky. It was 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: like pure luck that I made money. Um, but I 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't want like other people to make mistakes and like 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: just depending on luck. So that's how I started Investida, 137 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: but the mission to really educate people about investing. So 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I started with four X and I expanded to stop 139 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: market and options futures, and then of course I was 140 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: kind of delayed to krypto, but uh two thousand and sixteen, 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that is when I got into crypto and I got 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: really that was super exciting for me. So that's how 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I just, you know, I went down the rabbit hole 144 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, but the rest is history, I guess. Yeah. 145 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I love this story because I love how you you 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: left Iran, your country where you live, to go to Japan. 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: I got another whole another country, and then uh you know, 148 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: you saw some opportunity, you took it, someone pointed in 149 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: the right direction, but then you had enough drive to say, well, 150 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna leave and I'm 151 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere else. And so you've really been pushing that. 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: So I love that. Um, it's easy for people to 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: have these excuses as to why they can't do things 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: or all these reasons that hold them back, but you don't. 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: You don't seem to have those. Uh, that's the thing. 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: I think. Once you do it once, so fret I'm 157 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: going to Japan with a big deal. I went there 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: and I survived. So now because you have this experience 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: on your backpack, then the next time you're starting over, 160 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: I think it kind of gives you an edge. It 161 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: becomes easier every time you want to start over your 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: or reinvent yourself, it becomes easier than the first time. 163 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: The very first time is always the hardest time. But 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: after that, it's just you know, Okay, I get it before, 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: and I can do it now. I have more experience, 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: right and even if I fail? Would you say that 167 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: also applies to investing. So you started with four x 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: and now once I'm in four X and it's easy 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: for me to jump into because I mean not supports. 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: I actually realized after a while that it is not 171 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: suitable for my personality because I'm a little bit more 172 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: risk averse. I don't like to take as much risk 173 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: as if day trader really requires to have UM. So 174 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: that's how I expanded to stocks, and look like if 175 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I learned four x, obviously learned stocks. Then when it 176 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: comes to crypto. I was actually originally as a skeptic 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: a bitcoint in two thousand and eleven, one of my 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: friends told me to buy a bitcoin and I was like, nah, 179 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: that's that's too risky. And then in two thousands sixteen, 180 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: a company UK asked me to do research analysis for blocking, 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Like I have no idea about it. They're like, just 182 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: do it. So I did it and yeah, like because again, 183 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: so it was like maybe I can learn about it. 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: I learned about it. I was my mind was blown away. 185 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so cool. I got to get 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: into this, and that's how I just really yeah, so 187 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm realistive. I'm really new to crypto on blockchain, but 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm probably every every everybody. Everybody's new everything I know 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: the goal was worth like ten years. So so when 190 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: did you when did you make the shift to start 191 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: the education piece to help people out? When did you 192 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: start to investiva? I guess so that was that was 193 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: a long time. That was twenty twelve. Okay, So it 194 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: started with for X probably should book on foreign exchange. 195 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: So that's here you can see it. There you go 196 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and there I feel that that's the second edge, that's 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: the first edition over that. And then started to make 198 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: this shift to stocks around twenty fifteen and I became 199 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: a certif financial planner all this stuff that I really 200 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: started focusing on risk management, start uh ask good things 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: and expanded the education that I was offering to risk 202 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: management and had to become your own financial planner just 203 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: because I was burned by that money manager. So it's like, 204 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: you should become your own money manager. Why hire somebody else? Um? 205 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: And And I mean, even if you're like following a 206 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: guru who's giving you strategies, it's always important to understand 207 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: your own risk tolerance so that you can apply those 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: strategies to your own portfolio, right, because I think everybody 209 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: is kind of different, Like you can't so you have 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: low medium and I know you guys with the strategy 211 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: that you offer also have like all these different kind 212 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: of ye and that's perfect. Yeah, let's talk about that 213 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: risk management all right. So getting into risk management for 214 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, which is super important. I mean, when 215 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: you lose your money out of the game, right, so 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: you have to stay in it. What do you what 217 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: what would be a couple of tips that you could 218 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: give somebody for practicing good risk management. So the first 219 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: thing is actually really annoying your restolerance, and that is 220 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: that has two components. It's your willingness to risk and 221 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: your ability to risk. A lot of people when we 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: talk about restonans, I'm like, okay, well i am, I'm 223 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: a rist take care. I'm like, okay, you might be 224 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: a ristacre, but look at your perfect like, look at 225 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: your assets. Can you actually take the risk ourant not? 226 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: And it sounds kind of in twitive like everybody should 227 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: know about. But when it comes to investing, because a 228 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: lot of people are getting into it to get rich quick, 229 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: they kind of forget about it and they think, Okay, 230 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: if I have high enough for stonans, you've got to 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: take ressume make a lot of money. So the spontra 232 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: has been going around the internet for a while. And yes, 233 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: while you should take risk if you want to make money, 234 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: but you shouldn't take more risk and you can afford. 235 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: And that is when you have to really sit down. 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: Count Like, your restolerance is like a very simple questioner 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: that you have to go through. And I mean you 238 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: can go to a financial plan, but you can also 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: do it yourself. Um, it's a bunch of stuff. You 240 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: put in your assets, putting your liabilities, whatever you have, 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: your financial goals, your age, your family situation, all these 242 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: things that is unique to you to create a restolerance 243 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: that is really unique to you. On that way, you 244 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: can go ahead and pick and choose the strategies that 245 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: are suitable to your time frame, to your restolerance, and 246 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, just sit on it because um, if if 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: you don't know your instolerance, you're basically gambling and it 248 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: could really hurt you in the in the long one. Yeah, 249 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: I see, you know, especially with the cryptocurrency boom, like 250 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: you've had a lot of people jumping in to get 251 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: rich quick. And I've seen so many people through two 252 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: saying that they're wrecked, right that that kind of phrase 253 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: r e K T wreck who was coming out and 254 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like, nobody should ever get wrecked, 255 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: Like maybe you lose a little bit of money, but 256 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: why is anybody getting wrecked? And I think it's just 257 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: because they didn't understand, um how to, how to how 258 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: to manage that, And really, I think it all comes 259 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: down to just asset allocation, right yeah, yeah, because like 260 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: right now, let's say, like my stock portfolio, I am 261 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: deepling the right at the moment, I took profit partial 262 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: profit of the peak, but I'm holding the rest of 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: the long term. But you know what, I don't care 264 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: because this is the money I can afford to lose, 265 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: and it's in the right on buying more. I have 266 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: the I have the ability to buy more the lower crisis, 267 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: and everybody should be the same, Like you should You 268 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: should not be panicking. You should not put yourself in 269 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: the position that you panic when the markets go down. 270 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: If you're panicking, that means that you're not using the 271 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: money you can afford to lose, and that you should 272 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: you should invest in something else, and maybe you should 273 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: invest smaller and grow gradually. Um, so you should really 274 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: should understand the basics of your situation before jumping in. Yeah, 275 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: that's one of the worst things that you can run 276 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: into where you panic. Right. And so when you have 277 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: too much invested or too much of your allocation in 278 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: one position, it makes you makes you do things you 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing. So if I had put just a 280 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: small rational amount, then I can make rational decisions. Um. 281 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: You know, if you've put five dollars into a cryptocurrency 282 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: position and it drops to three dollars, it's not going 283 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: to be that big of a deal. Uh, you know 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: versus if it's a million dollars um, and and it 285 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: caused you to do things that you shouldn't be doing. 286 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting and something how do you recommend 287 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: is risk management? Now? Um, I find something else interesting again, Like, 288 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: so you've moved from Iran to Japan to the US. 289 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: She said, it's not that hard when you do it. Um, 290 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: when you first started looking at cryptocurrencies, Um, something really 291 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: caught your eye. When you first started looking at the cryptocurrency, 292 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: you look at the blockchain, you look at technology, and 293 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I guess as an engineer, that kind of caught your eye. Yeah, 294 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: so the blockchain technology, that's technology behind it, to me 295 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: sounds revolutionary and I do believe that it's obviously goes 296 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: beyond cryptocurrency and everything is probably gonna moving onto blockchain eventually. 297 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: So that was the first thing. And then as I 298 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: dug deeper into cryptocurrency aspect of it. So this is 299 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: what really hunted me. So you know I'm from me one, right, 300 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: And uh so my dad before that, you want a revolution. 301 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if your audience remember what having nine 302 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: there was this massive revolution new On where the show 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: collapsed and the new regime, the Mulas came over and 304 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: now everyone is this enemy of the U S. Right, 305 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: So before this revolution, my dad was this incredibly successful 306 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: CEO of a construction company, was building tellypads and airports 307 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: and this and that. He used to work directly with 308 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: the Shaw and uh well we were like one of 309 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: the fortunate people in here on basically. And when the 310 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: revolution happened, the new regime to cover my company's dad 311 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: and my company, my dad's company to cover all of 312 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: his assets, everything that he owned, and froze his bank account. 313 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: And I couldn't help but think that if my dad 314 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: had his assets in crypto, the government would not be 315 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: able would not have been able to freezer freeze's account, 316 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't grow up in poverty basically on because 317 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: that's when my dad fell into you fell all the 318 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: way down to zero below zero, and the government wanted 319 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: to execute him all these kind of stuff. But so 320 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: crypto cracy literally would have solved our problem. Like if 321 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: our even half of our assets we're in crypto, a 322 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: government like you want would not have been able to 323 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: have its hands on it. So that is something to 324 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: me that I think in the US it's hard to 325 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: relate to because no matter what your position is with 326 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the U. S Government, you still have some sort of 327 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: trust that the government is not going to free your 328 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: account tomorrow. You might have political opinions, but you still 329 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: have that trust somewhat right, So um, and people who don't, 330 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: then they should consider critic currency because that literally is 331 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: what it does. It takes the third party government out 332 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: of the equation. Yeah, that's interesting. I hear that all 333 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: the time from people inside the US, and they they're 334 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: not afraid of those types of things happening. But I say, 335 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: this is global and this thing, this type of thing 336 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: does happen all the time in other countries, and so 337 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: having somebody like you from a from an area that 338 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: has been effective. From that, it's an amazing viewpoint to have. 339 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: And um, you know, it's like insurance. You hope you 340 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: don't need it, but when you do need it, you're 341 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: glad that you have it. And so um. What's interesting though, 342 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: is is I am from the United States and that 343 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: was the exact thing that got me interested in bitcoin 344 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: as well. So I had heard about it for a 345 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: long time. In two thousand and fifteen, I was looking 346 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: at saying that it was after the financial crash, and 347 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: I was looking at trying to get like some offshore 348 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: corporations set up for offshore banking. So I figured, why 349 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: have all my money in one country, why not at 350 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: least put some in Singapore, some in Panama, etcetera. And 351 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: then I learned about bitcoin, and I'm like, that's exactly 352 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: the same thing, and so I did that, and then 353 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: of course as I learned more, But it was really 354 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: that that sovereignty, that sovereign banking, like you said, and really, 355 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: I think that's what the whole revolution is about. It's 356 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: the ability to hold our wealth, our value and transfer 357 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: it without having somebody interfere exactly. Yeah, So that was 358 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me and I can see in 359 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: countries I mean obviously beyond the US, but I mean 360 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: you would think that, I don't know, Japan is stable 361 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: or still in the stable, but history shows that over 362 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: and over again, none of these companies are going to 363 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 1: be in power for a extended period of time. So 364 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I think the biggest bet, the best that you can take, 365 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: is to if you want, if you're considering your family's future, 366 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: for generations to come, crypto is a way to go. Now, 367 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: let's get back into invest eva a little bit in 368 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: your in your book, so well, maybe let's talk about 369 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: the book. So the Cryptocurrency Investing for Dummies. Um, I'm 370 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: guessing that's available anywhere. It's easy to pick up there 371 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: you have a copy of it, but if you can 372 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: get it anywhere, you can get it on Amazon, Bars 373 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: and Noble. He can pay for it. But because I'm 374 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: actually really passionate about educating people, and I think for 375 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: crypto to become mainstream, people have to trust in the 376 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: whole system, and the trust is only going to appear 377 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: based on education. And in the book, I really have 378 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: put my part and soul into it to make everything 379 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Christoper clear. It says Difference Investing Program is, but I 380 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: talk about blockchain mining, other kinds of investing, diversification or management, 381 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: literally everything you need to know in order to get 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: into it. And because I'm so passionate about it, and 383 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna make that much money out of 384 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: selling books anyway, I'm giving the book for free on 385 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: my website. I mean, gotta you gotta pay the shipping fee, 386 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: but still it is gonna be much cheaper than buying 387 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: it on Amazon. So um to go to investor dot com, 388 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get the book for free. 389 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: So I'm and I definitely commended. Uh people read it, 390 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: They've been impressed, and the book actually has been able 391 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: to change the minds of some of the people who 392 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: are naysayers. So I'm kind of proud of that. Yeah, awesome, 393 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, So ahead and make sure we put 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: a link to the in the show notes for for 395 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: a copy of that book. Now, as a as an 396 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: as an educator, and you'd educate in forex and stocks 397 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: and cryptos and everything, so you're not just like pushing cryptocurrency, 398 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: but really you're trying to push this education of investing, 399 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: which I love and I want to get behind because 400 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: I believe that investing is really the only way to 401 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: get ahead. Right, we have to live on less than 402 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: we earn, so we can save and invest. Now, what 403 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: would you give as advice to somebody for investing broadly? Um? Again, 404 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: this goes through risk manage that your installerans. Um. Uh. So, 405 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the adversification in general, and 406 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I've been following the markets, and I don't follow each markets. 407 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: For example, I don't personally invest in futures or options, 408 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: like I try to keep it to what I know, 409 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: but I still diversify it a little bit. And I 410 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: think you start, like if your restolerance is high meeting 411 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: the law, you start with with whatever your comfort zone 412 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: is at, and you go up the ladder. To me, 413 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: for example, stock is the lowest part of risk taking. 414 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Cryptocurrency is kind of the same level as stops from 415 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: me at this point and forks his way up here. So, um, wait, 416 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: no matter what, when you're getting started, first again, go 417 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: find not re restolerance, and then start with the money 418 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: you can burn in the backyard. And third, start diversifying 419 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: with relative relevant to your restolerance and keep on adding 420 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: to it, and like put a little bit of your 421 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: savings every month automatically going to your worker's account of 422 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: or exchange and and started accumulating. Because I love that 423 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: um uh analysis that you put out on Twitter the 424 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: other day that if you bought bits going every single 425 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: asns of bubble, it would you would still be in 426 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: the pilot. Like that is literally what you should do, 427 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: all okay, a little bit of money, invest in money 428 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: every month that you can afford to lose, and then 429 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: spread it and diversify it. And even within crypt the currencies, 430 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: you can be diversified. Within crypt the currency categories, you 431 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: can diversify it with the other financial asses in their diverses. 432 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: So there's so many different ways to do it, and 433 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: you can just do it gradually. It's not a which 434 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: could get rich quick scheme. It's it's patience and it's knowledge. 435 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: I think that that will get you to where you 436 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: want to be. Yeah, one piece that you didn't say, 437 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: but we picked up from your story, I think is 438 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: that also take it into your own control, right, It's 439 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: it's important, it's about it's your money. And like you, 440 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: you know you have some kind of point you in 441 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: the right direction. You realize you got a little bit lucky, 442 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: but then you really went out on your own to 443 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: figure this thing out, even moving to New York. And 444 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: so for anybody else who's like paying attention listening right now, um, really, 445 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, get in, like she's saying, make these commitments 446 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: and look at your risk, but like, really think about 447 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing, really try to learn, really try to 448 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: add to your knowledge, right. I think that's a that's 449 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: a really big yeah. That is a very good point. 450 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: And I actually do want to stress that because I mean, 451 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: they are financial planners, money managers out there who may 452 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: or may not be you know, for your sake, majority 453 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: of times that are in it for the sake of 454 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: their own commission fees, and they might point you to 455 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: something that may not be really suitable to your portfolio, 456 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: but it's good for them in terms of commissions that 457 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: are going to earn and their partnerships with whatever company 458 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: that they are pushing. So it is very very important, 459 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, that you take things in your hands. 460 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: It's not rocket science, really, and with just a little 461 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: bit of education, you're gonna get there, and you're gonna 462 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: be the master of your own wealth and you're gonna 463 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: be able to keep up with it and you're not 464 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna pay a commission fees of people that don't don't 465 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: deserve right, Yeah, good stuff, all right? Good? Well? Um, 466 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: where can people keep up with you to learn more? Um? 467 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: You can follow me across social media. I got Twitter 468 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: at Kenana Daniel, invested at and at Investiva at Kena 469 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Daniel is a little bit more personal. I got Instagram 470 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: or share photos of my daughter, and I've got Facebook. 471 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: But more more importantly, I actually do have a YouTube 472 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: channel that we're starting and launching in you YouTube series 473 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: to educate people about blockshin and cryptocurrency industry. It is 474 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: called Diva on the Block, but it is again the 475 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: handle name is Investiva. So definitely check it out and 476 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: hopefully I can have you on the series as well, 477 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: because you're somebody that who's really dedicated to the to 478 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: the industry, and I think my audience could also benefit 479 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: from having you and hearing your opinion. Yeah, I like 480 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: that name. That's a good name on the block. Cool, 481 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: all right. We'll make sure to put notes are links 482 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: in the show notes for At and Kano. We appreciate 483 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: you taking the time and thank you so much for 484 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: having me. This is so much fun. Hey, if you 485 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: like this episode of the Market Disruptors Podcast. 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