WEBVTT - Standing On An Imperfect Faith | Canaan Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fire away, dude. I want to. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get a deeper as we can. I mean, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of life has happened since we crossed past the last Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we're very aligned in our goals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>our go forward goals are very much aligned. So yeah's everything,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all. I was free open season.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to Amber last night and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, when's the first time I met Canaan and

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I think it was you and Christy

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<v Speaker 2>were at an award show and we were like sitting

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<v Speaker 2>either next to each other or close to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, totally right. I'm trying to remember which one

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the CMTS. It might have been like the

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<v Speaker 1>the CMA's here in town. And then I remember, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>we did.

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<v Speaker 2>Another time early on this is this is kind of embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were and it's kind of a vague memory.

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<v Speaker 2>We were somewhere, I think West Coast. We were on

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<v Speaker 2>tour and it was one of those days were just

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<v Speaker 2>bands are in and out, in and out, in and out,

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<v Speaker 2>and for some reason, I was just in a bad mood.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a poorly run festival, really hot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing you and you were like coming off

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<v Speaker 2>the stage and you're really mad.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you like threw a drumk you like threw a

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<v Speaker 2>tomb or something a drum And I remember feeling so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh good, somebody else has got the

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<v Speaker 2>same movie, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>How many of those shows have we played where it

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<v Speaker 3>was just a total, you know, train wreck?

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<v Speaker 1>You know those thrown goes situations can be so so

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating man, And no, that doesn't surprise me. I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>I look back at there are definite moments in my

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<v Speaker 1>career where I look back and I'm like, I was

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<v Speaker 1>as much as as much fun as I had in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those peak moments, like when I had a

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<v Speaker 1>hit on the radio and I was out there in

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<v Speaker 1>front of big, big crowds. All the rush of that

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<v Speaker 1>was exciting and fun. But when I look back on it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the character that I'm looking at, the person that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at from this side, is so different than who

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<v Speaker 1>I am now like, And I think that what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said that story is a perfect example of I

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<v Speaker 1>was missing it. I was I was just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>missing it, missing the point of it all, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I just wanted everything to be perfect

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<v Speaker 1>and for what for me to make a bigger name

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<v Speaker 1>for myself so that everyone thought I had my stuff together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like, I don't know, man, that's just as

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder to me. It's funny because I'm thankful now

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<v Speaker 1>I can laugh at that and I'm not mad at

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<v Speaker 1>myself anymore. But I went through a season of life

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<v Speaker 1>where I was like, really just discouraged at how I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of handling my business and handling myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yes, I do. I know, man, I lived it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw it in you and you probably saw

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<v Speaker 2>it in me. But that's the rat race that we

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<v Speaker 2>were living, you know, that was the hamster wheel we

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<v Speaker 2>were on. And if you think about like what the

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<v Speaker 2>things we saw and how the beautiful people in the

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<v Speaker 2>incredible country, and it's like we weren't really even enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>any of that at some level truly.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, dude, as much as I saw, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's all a blur.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all a blur, you know. Yeah, So what was

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<v Speaker 2>the shift for you? How are you? How are you

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here now with a new perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>Kids? Oh? Yeah, you know, we had kids, and that

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<v Speaker 1>literally changed the game for me. Plus I walked away

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<v Speaker 1>well as let me rewind a little bit. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I was so lost as an artist.

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<v Speaker 1>After we had Lovey like that it was a hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we followed it up with a song called

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<v Speaker 1>Hole in a Bottle and it was like twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just chugging along, you know, running out

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<v Speaker 1>of gas. It felt like it wasn't going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way and I was frustrated that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't do two in a row. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that momentum. And I was looking left and right

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<v Speaker 1>at everyone else and what they had going, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why is my you know, why is this

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<v Speaker 1>not happening? Meanwhile, you got you know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people in your ear, you know about you know help.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, decision making wasn't just from my gut or

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<v Speaker 1>my prayer, you know, time with God. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of advice from more than just me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt lost in that process and I got lost.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually walked away from it as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like the record deal situation. I had a talk with

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of the record label, Mike Dungan, who was

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome dude, and we hit it off really good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just went into him and I told him

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<v Speaker 1>how I felt, and I just laid it all out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't even know what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do anymore. To be honest with you, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I have to say as an artist.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely I need to go find myself. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>let me out of this deal? He was he understood,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a he's an artist first, kind of label execut

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. So like that was to my

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<v Speaker 1>advantage that he understood where I was coming from and

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<v Speaker 1>he and he supported that, you know, me going to

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<v Speaker 1>find myself again. So I walked away from it and

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<v Speaker 1>I shelved a really good situation because I was being

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<v Speaker 1>impatient and ungrateful. I lost sight. You know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe for like, okay, well now what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like now I'm totally yeah, rude here, I've got no team,

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<v Speaker 1>I got no go forward songs. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have to say or who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>help me say it. So that was a time of

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<v Speaker 1>just shit like kind of reflecting, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So what years this happening. This is twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably the same year I saw you at that festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably was, dude, Probably was. And I took a minute

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<v Speaker 1>and I was hanging out with Tyler Hubbard. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend of mine, and we were working out

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<v Speaker 1>and he started telling me that he was about to

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<v Speaker 1>start a new venture, a publishing venture and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>record label at the same time. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting, that could be cool. And so honestly, that

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like came about through it just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of just coming to the table naturally, through us hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out in conversations about what he wanted to do next

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, the kind of the team and structure

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to build. And I ended up fitting into

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<v Speaker 1>that equation. And so I signed a record deal with

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<v Speaker 1>him and b K under the name Your Records, and

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<v Speaker 1>a publishing deal as well. And so this was twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and at this time, Granger, I was like not even sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like I told you, I was lost

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<v Speaker 1>as an artist, So I didn't know what I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do next in that regard, But I still

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<v Speaker 1>loved writing songs, and so I focused a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more on that than I had been in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kind of double down as a songwriter

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<v Speaker 1>and go hard in the pain on that front, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I did that whole right, you know, four times, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes five times a week. And I did that for

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<v Speaker 1>about two years and not really even thinking about what's

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<v Speaker 1>next for me as an artist. And that was a

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<v Speaker 1>transitional phase where it was a little bit tough at first,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you go at one speed and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're kind of just coasting for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything it felt like the rug was pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out a little bit and I had to had to

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<v Speaker 1>down shift and go back to square one and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of find my bearings again. And what was beautiful about

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<v Speaker 1>the partnership there with Tyler and BK was it I'd

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<v Speaker 1>known those guys for enough time that they knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was lost, you know, and they were able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like speak in to me and help me get

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<v Speaker 1>back on track a little bit. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>transitional season. And then meanwhile, my wife gets pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, going on in the background too.

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<v Speaker 1>All the same time, and our daughter, Virginia was born

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<v Speaker 1>on Halloween of twenty nineteen, so shortly after I started

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<v Speaker 1>working with those guys, we had our first child. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was starting at that point to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like I've got some new direction

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<v Speaker 1>as far as where I want to go next musically,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started to put a little tour together for

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<v Speaker 1>the January JA. I think we're going to do some

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<v Speaker 1>late Jamesnuary dates in twenty twenty. So two weekends into

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<v Speaker 1>this club tour thing, COVID hit and then that couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be on the road anymore. And so it was another

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a rug pulled out from under me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to see a theme here actually, as we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking that God has intervened multiple times on my path

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of pulling the rug out, and not

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<v Speaker 1>as I don't say that as a victim. I say

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<v Speaker 1>that with gratitude, honestly, because I've never been happier than

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, let me say right there that there's an

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<v Speaker 2>interview that you did, and there's a quote that you

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<v Speaker 2>have that says, around the same time you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I feel like I had come home and

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<v Speaker 2>God knew it. My perspective needed shifting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it did, dude, it really did. I didn't know it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did. And sometimes he you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible he talks through a donkey at one point, is

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<v Speaker 1>it Byalem as a donkey?

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<v Speaker 2>He does a bush too, and a bush and a witch. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>wow crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt like you know, I have, I have

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<v Speaker 1>felt redirected. And then to speed up the story a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, COVID hit came off the road for a

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<v Speaker 1>good long season. Got to spend real quality time at home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, you know, really, because Christy and

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<v Speaker 1>I got married and I went on radio tour literally

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<v Speaker 1>a week after we got married in twenty fourteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know with that site.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyhow, then being home and having a new being, a

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<v Speaker 1>new dad, all of that at the same time was

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what my heart needed and exactly where what my

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<v Speaker 1>faith needed because all the tearing that happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even as a I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I have moments every single day where I fall apart.

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<v Speaker 1>So and yeah, I know you know what I'm talking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I yell at the kids, and I hate myself

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but I'll get so short with them because

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<v Speaker 1>I've got other things I need to get done. The

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<v Speaker 1>chaos is keeping me from getting done. But all of

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<v Speaker 1>that's so good for me, for a guy like me,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like and God's just like being so gracious to

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<v Speaker 1>me along this path of you know, me having to

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<v Speaker 1>this this great awakening that's happened and is happening still

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And I don't know what what the point

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<v Speaker 1>is other than on a on a you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the level of being dad and being Christie's husband, like

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<v Speaker 1>on that level the things that matter most. I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>tweaked in all the right ways. I think God's tightening

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<v Speaker 1>what needs tightened and tearing off what needs tear tearing

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<v Speaker 1>and and and as a result of that, I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>feeling more fulfilled creatively. I'm getting to open myself up

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<v Speaker 1>and what I bring to the table now comes comes

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, a different side perspective that is on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of not maturity, but sort of. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, right, So that was the shift, really, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a many It took a few steps, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the record deal I ended up signing with

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the boys that got canned when they

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<v Speaker 1>called it quits as a duo, they closed up shop

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<v Speaker 1>on the record deal. And that was another like rug

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<v Speaker 1>pulled moment that I needed to get me to hear

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<v Speaker 1>for this album that I was put out even to

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<v Speaker 1>have happened, you know, it wouldn't have happened had I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I was actually halfway down the road

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<v Speaker 1>cutting the second album with them for in some the

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<v Speaker 1>same songs that are on this album, we're already underway,

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<v Speaker 1>but we re recorded them obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is independent. This record's independent, totally independent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you? How'd you fund it? I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds it sounds expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of It is expensive to record music,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, but it was a partnership with I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I got fifteen thousand dollars. Actually I got a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars check from a camper company. I use we

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<v Speaker 1>have a camper trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that on your Instagram. It looks awesome. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you about that thing because that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, that looks like goody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Modern Buggy. That's the brand, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of different models. And sizes and things, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one we had fits in my garage. It's super

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<v Speaker 1>easy to just hook up and go. But I had

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<v Speaker 1>bought one from from the guy who owns the company.

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<v Speaker 1>We crossed paths somehow. He was host in like a

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<v Speaker 1>songwriter night in Michigan, and I got asked to do

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<v Speaker 1>it and we hit it off, and he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, you know, he had these cool buggies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, sweet, I might want to get one.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up getting one. He gave me a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal on it, and then you know, I made some

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<v Speaker 1>posts about it because I really love it, and we

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<v Speaker 1>used a lot, and he just decided, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's try to collaborate on that front, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's help each other out. You advertise the buggy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you some money to do that. So he

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<v Speaker 1>gave me twenty thousand dollars last year. Yeah, in April

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, and three two weeks later, we were

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio recording the album. With that money. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I spent fifteen thousand dollars for the entire project at

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<v Speaker 1>the recording of the project, and I spent the other

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand on a videographer to help with some assets

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<v Speaker 1>for socials. So all in it was twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to get it to where it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's for people listening. That's still very difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>be within twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dirt cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>That is dirty crazy. I mean a normal record where

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<v Speaker 2>you say one hundred thousand, like a normal normal record

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<v Speaker 2>with the record label just to record it.

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<v Speaker 1>And paying a producer fee and all that other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that Anthony Olympia, who produced my record, decided he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need a producer fee. We just did a split the

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<v Speaker 1>master situation, and I'm so grateful for that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can get creative these days, you know, and get a

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<v Speaker 1>piecemeal a record together the way that you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you can afford. And that's what we did.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people that will charge twenty five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>just to mix a song, and you you have eleven

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<v Speaker 2>songs on this record. That's to put it in that

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, So I've got I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 4>this is the result of very kind, very talented humans

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<v Speaker 4>who gave their incredible gifts to this project for a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Insanely low price. You know. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>could replicate it again necessarily because they're worth a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. But yeah, I'm really proud of of

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<v Speaker 1>where we came in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should be, man, I mean, sonically, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is solid. I've gotten to listen to it several times now, probably,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I was going to decide a favorite, probably

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<v Speaker 2>every day, Joe, I think, I think I'm going there,

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<v Speaker 2>or pay It Forward or in Time with You. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>I love so eleven songs, did you know? Let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you this could there's no way you could know

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<v Speaker 2>this answer, but let me just me ask you anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven songs. How many of the eleven do you think

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<v Speaker 2>have some kind of faith element in the song itself,

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<v Speaker 2>in the lyrics? I know the answer. I'm just asking

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<v Speaker 2>probably half of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'd say a majority of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten ten songs have and I wow, yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. The only one is in Time with You

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<v Speaker 2>is the only one that does it, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a love song. But every other one, and I'm counting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm counting if it the word angel, the word prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>the word preacher. You know, I'm adding I'm make so

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<v Speaker 2>your record is you're definitely thinking through things and there's

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<v Speaker 2>something inside of you that that speaks in your songwriting,

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<v Speaker 2>in your performing, whether you even know it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just that's the foundation you're on. You

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<v Speaker 2>you come from this foundation. So it's I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>should say it's like impossible for you to write an

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<v Speaker 2>album and not your faith not be prevalent in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Praise God for that, dude. Honestly, there's you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>set apart as believers, That's what That's what the word

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<v Speaker 1>teaches us, that we're set apart, right, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>called out out of the world, We're called out of

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<v Speaker 1>darkness and delight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the what the word holy means. Holy means set apart,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is God's overarching attribute is his holiness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's often forgotten because people go, well, God, his greatest

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<v Speaker 2>attribute is love, No, not necessarily love is a is

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<v Speaker 2>an outpouring of his holiness. He's loving because he's holy.

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<v Speaker 2>Set apart, He's we are not like him. He is.

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<v Speaker 2>He is set apart from the universe, and so we're

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<v Speaker 2>made in his image, but almost like a shadow is

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<v Speaker 2>in the image of me or you, the shadow is

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<v Speaker 2>made in our image, but it is not like us.

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<v Speaker 2>It mimics, it mimics our appearance, or like a like

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<v Speaker 2>the George Washington or nutsbetic like the uh, the Abraham

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Memorial in Washington in DC mimics his appearance of Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not like him. He is holy, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible says we should be holly too. And now

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<v Speaker 2>word is like, uh, it's almost looked down upon, like

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<v Speaker 2>we can't achieve it, or like the word saint for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>that that word is holy one. That's what the word

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<v Speaker 2>saint means.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in country music we think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times was like you're like, I'm not a saint like

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<v Speaker 2>my wife. Well, we're called to be saints. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>we're referred to as Christians as saints, meaning to your

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<v Speaker 2>point set.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart, that's wild, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you all about this and have

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<v Speaker 2>you heard about Yegefest. It's happening this year May ninth

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<v Speaker 2>and tenth in Georgetown, Texas at the EEE Farm, So

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<v Speaker 2>you can come hang out with us. Me, my brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>my family will all be there. We've got a truck

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<v Speaker 2>show happening. We've got a mud bog competition, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like we did last year, but the new edition this

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<v Speaker 2>year is a concert by me and my band and

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<v Speaker 2>my old crew. This is not a tour, This is

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<v Speaker 2>not me getting back into music. This is one time

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<v Speaker 2>every year we hope to do a concert for my

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<v Speaker 2>friends and family, especially Maverick who's never seen me play

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<v Speaker 2>live before. So come out have a meal with me

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<v Speaker 2>and my family. On Friday night. I'm gonna give a

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<v Speaker 2>little devotional from the Bible, maybe play an acoustic song

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<v Speaker 2>or two. This is really a once in a lifetime experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you want to find out more, go to

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<v Speaker 2>eeye dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a part of me that can't run, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>I think once you're and I can talk about my brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>my older brothers, because they've they've had a journey with

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<v Speaker 1>their faith. They've had they've had ups and downs, They've

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<v Speaker 1>lived a hard life. We all dealt with loss, you

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<v Speaker 1>know when we were kids, and they took it really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you not?

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? You were younger? Is that what you're trying to say?

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was eleven and they were fifteen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a difference there. But also there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a there's like a foundation, and back to that foundation

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<v Speaker 1>right there, I can look back at our the way

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised, uh speak, you know, uh spiritually speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and point out a bunch of things that nowadays I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I was misguided, or gosh that was

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<v Speaker 1>controlling or this, you know, and point to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things that were not great and and damaging honestly

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the upbringing, the faith practices and the

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<v Speaker 1>church as a whole, at different times, but I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the foundation. You can't replace the value that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that now has in my adult life. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful for it. Even though it wasn't perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the people who are trying to lead me and

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<v Speaker 1>my parents who you know brought me up this way

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<v Speaker 1>were doing their best through all the imperfections that foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for it to stand still, they did something right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the faith is the faith has been tested and proven

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<v Speaker 1>to be authentic over time. And what you're saying by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there's I don't even know it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming out, that's just proof that that foundation was

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<v Speaker 1>real and that what what I believe and what I've

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<v Speaker 1>proclaimed to believe from a from the age of a

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<v Speaker 1>child till now like has been proven authentic because I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't talk about it otherwise it wouldn't come out in

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<v Speaker 1>my It wouldn't come from my heart if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in there, you know. So my brothers, I want them

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that point where they can celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>imperfections from the past and there in that spiritual upbringing,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're more damaged by it than it's almost they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten to that point where they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>to to accept the imperfections for what they were and

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<v Speaker 1>and and still be left with at the end what

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<v Speaker 1>they're holding their hands, a true, honest faith that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the heart. So that's kind of like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what got me talking about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? Do you know the can you trace

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<v Speaker 2>back the root of your brothers? You lost your brother

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<v Speaker 2>when he was sixteen, you were eleven, right, car accident? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me walk me through the community in the church.

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<v Speaker 2>And also you know what went wrong? What did the

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<v Speaker 2>church do wrong that now your brothers are where they

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<v Speaker 2>are now?

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<v Speaker 1>Great questions. The community was very much supportive through all

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<v Speaker 1>of it. We had a lot of close friends. We

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<v Speaker 1>had people who who cared deeply for us. That was

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<v Speaker 1>never a question. We never felt alone in that regard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like I was going through through loss alone,

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<v Speaker 1>which it was a huge blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the I think I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think honestly, man, like you know, probably you've had is

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<v Speaker 1>that you can relate to, or or that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>through on your own. In regards to sometimes there's misguided

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<v Speaker 1>or there's there's a misuse of power sometimes and in

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<v Speaker 1>any organization and a church isn't you know, in Layman's terms,

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<v Speaker 1>is an organization to a degree, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So exacted by humans. Yeah yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there were just some say one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but behind closed doors do another kind of like examples

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that made them think that it was kind of a joke,

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, or that this person's not you know, they're

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 1>not living the walk that they're talking. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So what kind of church was it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a non denominational you know, spirit

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<v Speaker 1>filled you know, we spoke in tongues and we were

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>rolling on the ground, banners up and down the aisles.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you know that's not non denominational.

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's a Pentecostal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. See what happens is churches that non denominational churches

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 2>are either Baptist or Assembly of God. But they and

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 2>you'll know by well how are they, how are they baptizing,

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and how are they receiving the Holy Spirit? You know,

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>you could tell quickly, oh, I see this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>an Assembly of God church, or I see this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually they just took the name off the sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally. It definitely had Assembly of God roots because

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>we would I mean, look, I'm not throwing you don't

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>throw the baby out with the bathwater. They'll say, No,

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I won't. I won't do that either with my upbringing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in I believe in the feeling of the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit the moment you profess your faith, at the

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And I believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>gifts of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that the the.

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<v Speaker 1>Intentional or not. Once you mix humanity with the Holy Spirit,

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>there can be there can be some ugly misguided stuff,

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and you can start chasing after the gifts of the

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Spirit more than you're chasing after pleasing God in your

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>real life. And so that's where the damage was the most,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Like this holy roller kind of like speak but really

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that couldn't you know, being far from that and their

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<v Speaker 1>actual how they're treating people, their outlook of you know,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the world, and and and and so it was just,

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just didn't add up.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you saying, are you saying that you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this huge tragedy happens in your family and that the

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<v Speaker 2>church as loving and supportive as they were. There's also

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>this element of well, seek him harder, you know, seek

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>God harder. You guys, you know you're missing the Holy

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Spirit needs to pour himself out on you, so work

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>harder to seek him. That's kind of what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>go bingo. And so your brother your brothers end up

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>just saying I don't want to work hard anymore. Nothing's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, dude. Yeah, that's I've never

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>seen it that that uh, that profoundly simple. But I

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>think that you're right. I think that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of like, you can if you pray hard enough

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>or consistently enough, you can get you can feel a deeper,

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you can get closer, you can have a more uh

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a bigger Holy Spirit encounter, you know, and

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>or or you can this person will be healed from cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>damn it if you pray hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough, you know. Yeah, And sometimes sometimes you just need

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>them to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just sit with you. Yeah, I'm so sorry.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to say anything. It's not always about

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>let's work harder and you're going to be healed, you know.

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Jesus didn't do that. Sometimes Jesus would just sit

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 2>and listen or ask questions, and really good questions. True,

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<v Speaker 2>how are your brothers today.

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<v Speaker 1>They're you know, they're amazing people like they have. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of gifts as far as what they

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<v Speaker 1>could what they offer in a room. They can light

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<v Speaker 1>up a room. They can really connect with people and

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>make people feel like they're listening. You know that they care,

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, And those are qualities that I think are

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>super admirable about them both. But there's a there's a

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>fuse that's very short, and there's and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of because I think it's a I think

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the fuse is made out of bitterness and some

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>anger and some hatred, and that when it gets lit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not fun to watch, like just uh,

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just I feel like they're they're not happy, you know.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think they're not. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>love themselves. I think they have a hard time believe

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in Jesus still loves them.

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<v Speaker 2>Does two those two things work backwards. That what you

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<v Speaker 2>just said, When you realize Jesus loves you, then you

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<v Speaker 2>could truly know yourself. Then you could truly you could

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>truly rest in who you are because he has your identity,

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<v Speaker 2>not you.

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<v Speaker 1>And how how like, how how how simple and and

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>how powerful is that Jesus loves you, like like it

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>looks like a bumper sticker or it feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>preschool uh song. But it's not any more difficult. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be any more difficult than that statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jesus was God.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>So loved the world, you know, And that's really the

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<v Speaker 1>pullball of wax. You're right, it's all right, like our contentment,

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>our purpose, our identity, everything down here hinges on. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we know that and do we accept that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Man, when I was in the darkest place in

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<v Speaker 2>my life and rock bottom, and when the Lord brought

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<v Speaker 2>me out of that, it was in a realization that

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<v Speaker 2>He loves me when I least deserved to be loved,

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<v Speaker 2>or when I was the most unlovable, you know, Romans

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<v Speaker 2>five eight, while we were still sinners, God shows his

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>love for us. How while we were still sinners, Christ

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 2>died for us when we were unlovable. And when that

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<v Speaker 2>reality grabs you, and I've heard so many people it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's similar to your testimony too. When that

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 2>reality finally wraps you up, you say, why would he

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>forgive me? Why would he pursue me? Why would he

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>give Why would he give me an an inheritance to

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<v Speaker 2>the kingdom. Oh, because he loves me beyond what I

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly understand. And it's usually that's the thing, like,

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's what wakes people up and they go, oh,

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>my God. Then from there then they want to be obedient.

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Then they want to read their Bibles. Then they want

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<v Speaker 2>to join a local body of believers and celebrate and tell.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Then they want to evangelize and tell other people about it.

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>It comes from being loved. That's the beginning of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so many times people try to do it

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<v Speaker 2>backwards and they go, man, I need a first, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to learn how to love myself. And once I

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to love myself, then I'll then I'll really

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<v Speaker 2>get into the church thing. And and the way the

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Bible speaks, it's like, you can't love yourself, bro, and

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<v Speaker 2>until you know who he is. You can't even know

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>yourself until you know who he is, and then everything changes.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like the story of your brothers. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is, man, And it sounds like what the conversion

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you made from the old days to you're a different

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>person man than what.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>You used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I yes, but I'm talking about you you're a

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>different person. Something happened with you. Man. You say it's kids,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord Jesus kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's I think he still got a

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>long way to go. But I'm very grateful to have

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>more purpose, or at least be aware that there's more

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>purpose than just how big is my music career gonna be?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, let's let's get to that. Let me

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 2>tell you these let me tell you these lyrics here.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrote these in the grip of changing winds and

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 2>the hands of open waters, the shadow of the moon

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>and the rising tide. It conjures heaven. Hear my prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>lest the will of God desert me. You didn't bring

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<v Speaker 2>me all this way for Baron Shules to show me

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>no mercy. You believe that.

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I still every day believe it. I am on the

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>journey still. And that's why that song, every time I

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>hear it, it helps me. It helps me remember I'm

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel tossed, I'm gonna feel lost, I'm gonna feel

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm never gonna I'm always gonna feel like will

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I ever get there?

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what you said three times? You realize what

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you said three times in a row. Feel the problem

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>is feel. I'm gonna feel lost, I'm gonna feel like

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>he's abandoned me. I'm gonna feel like the tides are changing.

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna feel feel, feel, And so we take what

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>we feel and we put that under the accountability of

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>what we know, what we know he is doing. Paul

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 2>says in Philippians One that he who began a good

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>work in you will bring it to completion. Let's go

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>in the midst of all that. You're gonna feel tired,

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna feel lost, You're gonna feel like your faith

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 2>is failing. You're gonna feel like you're a bad father

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and a bad husband and a failed musician in your

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>career is tanking. You're gonna feel feel feel. We see

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>this in the Psalms all the time. It's great to

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>go see King David and what he writes in the

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>songs of it, he feels, feels, feels, and then he knows.

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>There's the accountability. But I know I know what you're doing, Lord,

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and you wrote it in your song. You didn't bring

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>me all this way for Baron Scholes to show me

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 2>no mercy. The Lord didn't bring you all this way.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Canaan through all this through tragedy in your life. Your

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>parents didn't make it that, they didn't make it through this.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>It was no, they're not together. What you mean No? Yeah, no,

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the they get divorced.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>The Lord didn't bring you through all of this so

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>that at the very end he can go, oh o Cane,

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you didn't make it. I'm so sorry, buddy. Now he's

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>working all of this, All of this pain has a

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>has a purpose. Paul says that this light, momentary affliction

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>is producing an eternal weight of glory. So all this

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>is working for us. And he didn't bring you all

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>this way for Baron Schulz to show you no mercy.

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>That's that is an amazing thought, because what you've been through, brother,

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>is is let me see it this way. It's impossible.

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't do it. You won't make it on your own.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So you rest in him. You rest in him who

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 2>has a plan that that turn, that will be working

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>all things for good, it for those who love him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an incredible promise, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it. Thank you for that reminder, man, It's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, buddy, Thank.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>You, man. I need to hear it. I'm sorry to

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>take us to this take us to this level of

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>we're just inviting everybody into a conversation between us right now.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 2>I do think there's more to say about about your career.

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. This is another another thinker here.

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you think the Lord wants you to have a

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>successful music career? It's not a trick question, that's not

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>like a gotcha question. Do you think the Lord wants

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 2>you to have a successful music career?

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I I know the Lord wants me

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to know him.

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Boom, I know that. Boom. So when you know that,

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 2>the purpose of you knowing him, really, the Bible says,

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is so that he is glorified. But it's not like

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>some cosmic narcissism, you know, like's not He's not up been,

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>heaven going. I want you to know me so that

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm I get the glory. Caanan like like he like

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>he need, He doesn't need anything. In fact, he is

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>He's perfectly complete the way he is, the Triune God

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>is perfectly complete. He doesn't need you or me. He

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't need my evangelism or your music or anything. But

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>because he created you and here it is because he

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<v Speaker 2>loves you. He wants you to glorify him. And here's

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the illustration to that. It's like, imagine a museum, incredible museum,

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 2>and in that museum, through all the displays, there's this

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>one painting that's mind totally dynamic, it's incredible painting, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's sitting there on this display. And here you come

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<v Speaker 2>and I come. We come walking in there, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>on our phones looking down walking through this museum, going

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<v Speaker 2>by this display, and we're looking down on our phones

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 2>just like mindlessly scrolling something. And if the painting in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment, if the painting could talk, it would say, Canaan,

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<v Speaker 2>look to me, look up, look to me. Not because

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to look at me, not because it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel better if you look at me, but

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 2>because if you look at me, this will change your

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<v Speaker 2>life because you will get so much joy, giving me glory. Yeah,

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's why God says, canaan, know me, know me.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>And then if you have a successful music career, awesome.

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 2>If you don't and he's leading you somewhere else, awesome, right,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 2>But at some level, as long as the bills are paid,

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 2>as long as you're taking care of your wife and kids,

0:40:56.719 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 2>then then and giving him the praise, then you will

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<v Speaker 2>feel joy, you will feel contentment in that. It's crazy, right.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I can testify to that because I'm only

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm only there now for the first time where I'm

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a career. My career is music, right, but

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not defined by it for the first time. And

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, It's it's beautiful that I'm not. I'm I've

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>accepted that. And you know, if I am open to

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever he has because I want to know him and

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I want my family to know him. I want us

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to have I want us to experience God to the fullest.

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>That's my goal in life. So ammers whatever he's got

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>planned on, sign me up.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, on top of all that, you're

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>also incredibly talented that the Lord has gifted you with

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 2>incredible that this album is amazing. Uh And so you know,

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>we can't say any of that without also saying the

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Lord has definitely gifted you as an entertainer, as a writer,

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>as a singer, performer, guitar player, all the above. But

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 2>that also doesn't necessarily mean because of that you will

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 2>equally have success in it, just like all your peers. Yeah,

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>so who knows. I mean, I love. I love that.

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>That's your answer. So we you mentioned earlier that we

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.720
<v Speaker 2>had this mutual friend nugget. I call him Chris Clifton.

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>That's right. And I said, dude, I said, I'm going

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation with Canaan today. I thought you'd

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 2>want to know. And he was like, oh, it's amazing.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>And then he sends me this text and he says,

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>here's some things that you might not know about him.

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.919
<v Speaker 2>He cooks spaghetti three nights a week. What's true? What's

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>up that?

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious, dude, that is true.

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 3>It is true.

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 1>We made it last night.

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's good. All right? What about this one? He

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>said he once pushed a terrified girl down a slide

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 2>on National Time. Oh god, what does that mean? What

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 2>does that mean?

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I was on the Amazing Race that TV show, all right,

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and the girl who was my partner I was dating

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and we uh got to this.

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<v Speaker 1>The challenge was to just literally go down a water slide.

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>It was a big water slide, but it was still

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>just a water slide. All you had to do was

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>go down it.

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>And she was so.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Terrified that she sat up there for forty five minutes.

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>At the top and I was trying to peel her

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>hands from the bar so I could push her down

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the slide and go get our million dollars. That's what

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>he's talking That's what he's talking about.

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember when he first said that, I didn't know

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 2>what he was talking about. Now I remember that moment.

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 2>You know what else he said though he said this,

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Chris said, I will say he is one of the

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 2>kindest and most thoughtful dudes that I know. He's always

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 2>reaching out to his friends to check on them to

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>see how things are going. I know that's random, but

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 2>he's really good at that. And I agree, man, Kana,

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>that's you, and that's the Lord working in you. That's

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 2>not the same guy that that what that was throwing

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the drums at the music festival on the West Coast

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that day. The Lord has softened you, man, and uh god,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>it's it's beautiful, man, It's beautiful to see what the

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Lord is doing with you.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate that very much. Yeah, like you said first, I

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>can't take the credit for that. That's that is Jesus

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>doing his thing, man. But it's really cool when people

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.919
<v Speaker 1>feel the effects of what he's doing, you know, because

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the biggest our biggest responsibility is to try to love others. Right,

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that was the great commission.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 2>That's right. So that's right. I love hearing.

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I love the record. I love all the songs. I

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>love that it's independent. I love that you made it

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 2>for an amazing fifteen thousand dollars. I still don't really

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 2>know how.

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 4>You did that.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 2>But most importantly, I love that the Lord is drawing

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you and changing you and redirecting your thoughts and your passions.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could definitely speak to that, that the

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Lord starts rearranging desires and changing passions. And at one time,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>at one time, you and I both were you know,

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>our whole world revolved around let's make the single work.

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah? And then when the single works, I mean,

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.399
<v Speaker 2>the very next thought you have is time for time

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to do it again on the next single. And that

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>never ends.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>No, And how can you be happy doing it like that?

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I possible?

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't.

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, what would what would make us happy?

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Five number ones?

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>It?

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>How about nine? Ten?

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Because then you want fifteen with fifteen number one singles

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.240
<v Speaker 2>make us happy? No, you got to hit it even twenty.

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 2>That ends? So anyway, man, I appreciate the conversation. I

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.479
<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoyed it. You got to do it again.

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I got a bud. I want to. I want to.

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to do this again because I want to

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 1>hear like and we can just do it over over

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.120
<v Speaker 1>beers and on the phone one time too if you want.

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's a lot to catch up to on

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your side of the story and I want to keep

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 1>diving in on too. Okay, thank you for the time today, man,

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 2>No, man, that's the same same to you. It's an

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>honor to have you canan and let's keep talking. Love it, dude,

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I love you, love you hell all right, see you bro.

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:52.640
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