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Speaker 1: to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as I am for every episode by

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Speaker 1: He's got a fresh haircut, he's looking clean like he

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Speaker 1: professional better Simon Hunter, Hello Swiman. Yeah, I am on

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Speaker 1: I'm a little choppy. Shockabra, dude, shocka Bra. It's my

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros for Betting Pros, he does amazing work. We

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Speaker 1: trade it to the Ravens, get Lamar Jackson. That'd be

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Speaker 1: a pretty insane No. I like the first part of that.

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Speaker 1: I like the idea. It's galaxy brain. But trading Justin Philips,

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Speaker 1: I think, don't say that, don't say that free, don't

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Speaker 1: be that guy. No, but it is. It is a

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Speaker 1: better quarterback class. If you trade Fields eight, you trade

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Speaker 1: the one on one, you're putting your team in a

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Speaker 1: much better position to get the one on one next

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Speaker 1: year when it's a better quarterback lass. And when that

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Speaker 1: guy enters, he will have a much better situation around

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Speaker 1: or even this year. Here's one thing I will say,

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Speaker 1: You're putting a lot of faith in a team that

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Speaker 1: just traded the number thirty two overall pick for a

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Speaker 1: don't think that they actually have the ability to maneuver

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Speaker 1: like that through the draft. If they do, I will

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Speaker 1: be impressed, But like, we shouldn't have any faith in

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Speaker 1: their ability to do that. Two things. One bear down

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Speaker 1: to new era Chicago, where the monsters of the Midway

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Speaker 1: not the mistakes by the lake. Okay, that's how that's

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Speaker 1: going to roll number two one oh one? Is this

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Speaker 1: like new geek terminology for for for like, first overall,

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Speaker 1: what do you bring it to the table here? Freeman? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is the new geek terminology. But this is common

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Speaker 1: for people who actually talk about the draft, because each

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Speaker 1: round has its own So you would say two point

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Speaker 1: zero one to differ from two twelve, right, so round

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Speaker 1: two pick twelve. This is a common thing, Chad, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: common thing amongst the geek class. Sure you mentioned that

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Speaker 1: you should just get mel kiper Okay, remember these insults.

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Speaker 1: Kiper referencing you on a first name basis and acknowledging

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Speaker 1: had some of the worst athleticism I have ever seen

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Speaker 1: guy was one hundred and eighty pounds entering LSU and

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Speaker 1: ran a four point eight eight second forty time, Like

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Speaker 1: developing his body so that three years after entering LSU

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Speaker 1: pounds of muscle and shaved off like not like half

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Speaker 1: a second from his forty time, but getting it down

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Speaker 1: to like a four to four. I mean that is

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Speaker 1: that is some serious physical training that he did in

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Speaker 1: three years. But I mean so like, but he's the outlier.

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Speaker 1: Like we have a general range of Like if a

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Speaker 1: guy ran a four point four when he was a recruit,

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Speaker 1: maybe he can do a four point three three years

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Speaker 1: later when he's at the combine. So we have a

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Speaker 1: general sense already of where these guys stack up athletically.

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Speaker 1: All right, give me some other bets, Simon that you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about. Are you thinking about wide receiver? Are you

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Speaker 1: thinking about overall defensive player? Taken in the Christian Gonzalez,

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, Jalen Carter range. What are you starting to

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Speaker 1: look at right now? What did you think about on

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Speaker 1: your cross country trip. I'll let Matt Freeman dive into

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Speaker 1: it here because I think we're on the same page.

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Speaker 1: There's a receiver drive in Iron up for the first

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Speaker 1: she were drafted. I feel like he really nailed them

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Speaker 1: the head in our notes here about why he likes them.

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Speaker 1: And I'm on the same page where last year watching

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Speaker 1: college football, this guy really jumped out to me. So

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Speaker 1: I mentioned here Freeman's takeaway he moved him up his

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Speaker 1: board to be the first wide receiver d he didn't

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Speaker 1: name him. Are you are you holding back on the

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Speaker 1: reveal for Freedman to get it or did you want

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Speaker 1: me to name him? Yeah? I want Freeman to say it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping this is Jaln Hyatt or to be leading

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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. Yeah, Jalen Hyatt. I mean he

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Speaker 1: was fantastic last year at Tennessee, kind of coming from

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Speaker 1: nowhere Central Tillman entering the year looked like the number

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Speaker 1: one wide receiver. He suffered an injury and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, hyaha just explodes. And you look at

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers in this class and there's not a

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Speaker 1: guy who is going to go in the top ten, right,

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Speaker 1: There's not like that kind of marque wide receiver. And

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Speaker 1: so I think it's a little bit of a toss

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Speaker 1: up for who goes number one. But Jalen Hyatt, like,

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Speaker 1: you can't teach speed, and he is probably the fastest

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Speaker 1: of these wide receivers. And we have seen over the

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Speaker 1: past five six years wide receivers who tear up the combine,

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Speaker 1: they shoot up the draft board in a number of

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Speaker 1: these guys end up going in the top half of

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Speaker 1: the first round, and it feels like Jalen Hyatt has

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Speaker 1: a real chance to do that. People are projecting in

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Speaker 1: the four point three, maybe even four point two, like

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Speaker 1: four point two five to four point two eight kind

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Speaker 1: of range for Jalen Hyatt. That feels a little bit aggressive.

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Speaker 1: But if he's in the four threes, I mean, game on, Like,

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Speaker 1: he's got a very real chance to go as the

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. He's available at plus six fifty

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Speaker 1: at fan duel I think there's value there for him,

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Speaker 1: and I will say, like the combine matters a lot

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Speaker 1: for him. If he's fast, if he's in the four threes,

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Speaker 1: then I think he could be a fantastic NFL receiver.

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Speaker 1: If he's in the four fours, then he's like Paul Richardson,

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Speaker 1: who was like a fantastic college player, but no one

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Speaker 1: remembers him, like got drafted on Day two. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of what's at stake for Jalen High right here. If

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Speaker 1: he's fast, he could be the first wide receiver drafted.

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Speaker 1: If he's in the four fours, he could be drafted

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Speaker 1: at the end of the second round. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that's why you make the bet. Now though it's where

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Speaker 1: he's another guy where combin is gonna be huge for him.

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Speaker 1: If he goes out and he does run that four two,

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Speaker 1: I can easily see him go steaming up the draft

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Speaker 1: board because on tape the kids incredibly he's high. He

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Speaker 1: high points the ball, which you talked almost any scout.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest things I look for kids

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Speaker 1: coming out of college, kids who actually attack the ball.

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Speaker 1: He does that, so he has the speed. I love

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Speaker 1: those kids chat especially. I think must people if they

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Speaker 1: watched Tennessee last year, they kind of came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: He was a big part of that. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: kid was uncoverable in a lot of those games. So

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Speaker 1: the fact that you can get him now at plus

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Speaker 1: over six hundred a fandel I would just take the

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Speaker 1: value before the combine, because I do think if he

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Speaker 1: can run in the combine, which we talk all the time,

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Speaker 1: these guys will last two to three months, all they've

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Speaker 1: been doing is training for this combine. So all he's

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Speaker 1: been doing is working with a track coach to get

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Speaker 1: his speed up. So to me, the value is there

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Speaker 1: when you bet on these kind of you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys all in the same spot of

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Speaker 1: these positions coming in the combine. You bet the value

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Speaker 1: of the guys who have the tape, and you just

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Speaker 1: need to see them do it in the combine. So

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Speaker 1: to me, he's one of those guys. He has the tape.

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Speaker 1: Can you show up with the speed in the combine

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Speaker 1: not drop any balls in the passengers. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: to ask, but it's six fifty. That's good value. I know,

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Speaker 1: will say go ahead for it is that it's not

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Speaker 1: certain that he is going to run at the combines,

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Speaker 1: so I would wait to hear news on whether he's

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Speaker 1: running or not. If they say he's going to run,

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Speaker 1: then I would bet the six fifty. If he's not running,

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Speaker 1: I would wait because his odds might drop a little bit,

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Speaker 1: as other wide receivers do run at the online All right,

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Speaker 1: I know Freeman's gotta get out of here. So the

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Speaker 1: specifically about the Chicago Bears. So let's say let's say

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Speaker 1: Kiper has already given them the blueprint to trade to

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Speaker 1: two and then trade to three. And let's say that

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Speaker 1: they have the option to draft Will Anderson from Alabama,

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Speaker 1: the edge rusher, or Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle from Georgia. Freeman,

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Speaker 1: you first, who do you taken? Why? I take Will Anderson?

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Speaker 1: And I get that Jalen Carter might might be the

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Speaker 1: better prospect, but it is very close between them. And

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Speaker 1: I get that there's this theory that if you have

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald type of talents and he's able to

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Speaker 1: get pressure in the middle, that might mean more for

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Speaker 1: your overall defensive line. But I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: project a Jalen Carter to be Aaron Donald, Like no

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Speaker 1: one is Aaron Donald, but you can't project Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty good pass rusher. And a pretty

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Speaker 1: good pass rusher off of the edge does make a

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Speaker 1: significant difference to your team. So I would still go

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Speaker 1: with Will Anderson because even last year he was like

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Speaker 1: a near Heisman type of performer. We've had since a

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Speaker 1: strong sense for multiple seasons of who he is. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Carter is great, but I think in the end, edge

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Speaker 1: rusher means more to your team than defensive tackle Simon.

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Speaker 1: I would say it's all about what the GM style is.

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Speaker 1: It's the Carter is a safer play. You can know

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Speaker 1: exactly what he's gonna be in this league. He's an

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Speaker 1: eater of blocks. You'll always be double blocked. He's just

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Speaker 1: such a big body. He pans out, which he will

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Speaker 1: because he's just such a freak. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: go back and watch him play high school running back chat.

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Speaker 1: This kid was an absolute freak and he put on

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Speaker 1: the weight just to be a d tackle a Georgia

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Speaker 1: So Anderson, you know, that's the hardest part where I

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Speaker 1: love his tape he played at Bama, and it's the

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Speaker 1: same thing with this kid at Georgia, where it's it's

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Speaker 1: like they're surrounded by studs and it's really hard making

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Speaker 1: a pick. But in your division, Chad, I guess I

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Speaker 1: would go with the d tackle just because I get

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Speaker 1: I know past rush is a big deal. It's just

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Speaker 1: your division don't really have any quarterbacks anymore. Like Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins and golf are the kind of two staples, and

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Speaker 1: your your your division. I feel like it's probably smarter

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Speaker 1: to just go to safe play. Where the Bears when

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Speaker 1: when was your best pass rusher? You guys drafted Chad drafted. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I went through your guy's list one

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Speaker 1: three years. Who Richard dent in nineteen eighty three. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't find one. I only looked back fifteen years. So

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Speaker 1: that's my fear with Chicago. They should have just played safe.

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Speaker 1: Ms have just swung and miss. And this new regime

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Speaker 1: you hit on a couple really good picks last year

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Speaker 1: in the draft, this Bears group, so um, that's the hope,

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Speaker 1: all right, Listen, I was leaning towards will Anderson when

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Speaker 1: Friedman was talking, and now I'm leading towards Jalen Carter

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Speaker 1: after Simon. I guess, I guess. My feeling on this

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Speaker 1: is there's something really exciting about a dominant pass rush

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Speaker 1: up the middle and having a dominant defender who can

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Speaker 1: help with the run. Oh my god, you know what.

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Speaker 1: This is so hard. I can't believe I have to

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Speaker 1: make this decision for the entirety of Chicago. I will

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Speaker 1: have to decide what it's going to be next time.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna leave people in suspense because I just can't decide.

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Speaker 1: And I don't have to decide yet, Freeman, because I

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Speaker 1: don't have all the information yet. That's fair. Don't give

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Speaker 1: me that look you're looking at before you run, though,

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Speaker 1: before you run, Freeman, give us your favorite long shot

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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about. I would say, Christian Gansall is

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Speaker 1: probably there aren't enough posted yet. There aren't enough lines

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Speaker 1: posted yet. But I will say if there is a

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Speaker 1: line posted at some point for like number three running

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Speaker 1: back selected them on a chain from from Texas, A

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Speaker 1: and M. If he tears up the combine like runs

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Speaker 1: in the four twos, I think he would be a

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Speaker 1: really intriguing guy who ends up going much much higher

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Speaker 1: than any you want expect all right, Matthew Friedman direct

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Speaker 1: your content for Fantasy Prose and Betting Prose. I don't

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Speaker 1: like him, but he brings good information and that's why

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Speaker 1: we have him come back on the podcast again and

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Speaker 1: again and again. Simon Hunter, thank you so much from

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Speaker 1: the West Coast. Matt Mitchell, producer extraordinaire. Great work. As always,

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