1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: You know they've got some of the data, additional data 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: out about Sam Bankman Freed, billionaire Frodo Baggins, as I 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: call it, I just wanted to change the world for 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: the battle. I was just going to get rid of 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: climate change, and I was going to pay off all 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: the Democrats at all the big Lib news outlets, and 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: then I was going to live in by Vegan Sex 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: combute with twenty other people that was paid for by 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: people that I defrauded. And yeah, I mean that's pretty 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: much what we know about Sam Banker Freed at this point, 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: although there's some additional information out there about just who 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: was getting the money, right, that old old important thing 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: to keep in mind. Follow the money. This is from 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: the Twitter account unusual Whales, which is verified, and he 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: has the money here from mister Sam Bankman Free. This 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: is going to be one of the biggest frauds we 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: have seen in a long time. That's pretty clear at 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: this point, back when Freed has has been arrested, he 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: is in a Bahamian prison and it's fascinating to see 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: how the LIB media is now finally finally deciding that 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: they're going to cover this story. Here we go the 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: people who got the money, because they kept saying Republicans 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: got the money too. Who's the Republican Okay, hold on 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: a second, Yes, there was some money given. You can 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: see on this chart one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: eight nine sources Republican sources, and that includes such Republican 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: stalwarts as Lisa Murkowski for Senate. HM. Almost like they 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: were giving money to Republicans, including in the primaries. Who 30 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: would be the best for Democrats. Oh? Interesting, you had 31 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: Collins for Senator. Also got money by you know, Susan Collins. Yeah, 32 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: that hardcore right winger Susan Collins. She got money from 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: this guy. She got money from Sam Bankman Freed. What's 34 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: weird is I don't see any any right wingers. I 35 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: don't see any money going to you know, Blake Masters 36 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: or Ronda Santis or kempin Georgio, or or our buddy 37 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: ron John up in Wisconsin. I don't see any money 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: going to any you know, like Republican Republicans. Turns out, 39 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: when you look at the details, all of a sudden, 40 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: the story becomes a lot more clear, doesn't it. Sam 41 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Bankman Freed is not on Santa's good boy list, that 42 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: is for sure. He has he has been naughty. He 43 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: has not been nice to the many, many people that 44 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: he allegedly defrauded out of billions of dollars. And there 45 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that might have something to 46 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: answer for here, because there are he gave money to. 47 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: According to the Daily Mail, here a quarter of Congress. 48 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: Now they keeps saying one hundred and thirty Democrats, Republicans 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and Biden. You have a lot of money to Biden. 50 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: But when I looked at unless the data that I 51 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: saw is wrong, he gave money to a handful of 52 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Republicans who were the least Republican Republicans you could find, 53 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and also was giving money to try to steer in 54 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: the prime It also seems he might have been giving 55 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: money try to steer in the primaries more either beatable 56 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: or weaker candidates. So yeah, Sam Bankman Freed is a 57 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: huge lib obviously, now, even for someone who has an 58 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: ideological affinity for one side or the other, paying off everybody, 59 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: when you're scheming people out of billions of dollars, when 60 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: you're taking billions of dollars of investor money away or 61 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: lighting it on fire, spending on other things. That's just 62 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: that's just pretty sound practice, right, bribe everybody to the 63 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: degree that you can or you think you need to. 64 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: But I think it's very clear that overwhelmingly these were 65 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: left wing causes because the apparatus of power and control 66 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: in this country is left leaning media, academia, Hollywood, Corporate America, 67 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Corporate America. Is it's funny because you have all these 68 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: people that are like, yeah, like we stand against the men, 69 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: like we're super progressive, We're like socialists brought to you 70 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: by Amazon. I mean, they are such phonies, such phonies, 71 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: says Corporate America's gotten all left wing. Two. They think 72 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: they can get away with left wing politics while while 73 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: selling you whatever products it is that they have online 74 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: or on shelf. And hopefully that's going to change. If 75 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't change, by the way, the conservatives, I think 76 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: we just end up end up losing in the long run. 77 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: It's impossible to compete with the other side when they 78 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: have so much more money, power, influence at their disposal. 79 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what our ideas are and their ideas are. 80 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: They just have better machinery to get their way. On 81 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: their side. But I think the other part of this 82 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: that will likely come out here we go forty six 83 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: point five million in sand banquet free donations to political groups. 84 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: He gave twenty seven million dollars to Protect our Future. 85 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: That's for Democrats. He gave five million dollars to the 86 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: Biden twenty twenty campaign. That's a nice little donation, isn't it. 87 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: A million dollars to Beto O'Rourke are like never. I 88 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: never would have taken that money if I had known 89 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that it was like totally stolen from like the people 90 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: that I so care about. Also, I want to take 91 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: away all your guns. Representative Hakim Jeffries got fifty eight 92 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars mit Romney. Of course, this is the thing 93 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: they say. But he donated to Republicans too. He gave 94 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred bucks to mit Romney. Let's see Susan 95 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Collins fifty eight hundred, Corey Booker fifty seven hundred, Josh 96 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Gottheimer fifty eight hundred, and there's more and more and more, 97 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: and then you get into all the packs. So much 98 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: money going to all these packs. Remember this is just 99 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: the FEC Federal Election Commission stuff. This is just what's 100 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: been accounted for. The guy in charge of the bankruptcy 101 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: of FTX has already come out and said, look, they 102 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: basically weren't keeping records. And we're talking about crypto here, which, 103 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: if you know what you're doing, is very easy to 104 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: transfer without the source of it being known. Who knows 105 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: where all these different accounts and funds that everything. Remember, 106 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: he set up in the Bahamas for a reason to 107 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: evade regulators and scrutiny and to have a free hand 108 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: to do whatever he wanted to do. I think, and 109 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: I see this from you know, Elon Moski is a 110 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: super obviously a superintelligent guy who also understands corporate finance 111 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: and how you can move money around and all that 112 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Elon says that he thinks that bankman 113 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Freed gave away right now. It's the seventy million that 114 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: is listed on the FEC that has shown up in 115 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: FEC records. Forty million to to Democrats, they say, thirty 116 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: million to Republicans. But as I'm talking to you, I 117 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: can say, yeah, but the Republicans they gave money to 118 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: were like not, you know, not really the Republicans that 119 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: are going to do anything it's the point trying to help, 120 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: for example, Murkowski defeat Kelly Shabaka. Right, Well, that's really 121 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: helping the Democrats because Murkowski will go along with Democrats. 122 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: But that's the second layer beneath all this. But I 123 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: also think it is likely we will find out that 124 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: there was a whole lot more money given to Democrat interests. 125 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: We know that he was donating to different media entities 126 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: and organizations, and that was just buying more of the 127 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: positive coverage this guy was. They really ran front cover 128 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: stories at all, kinds of yeah, what do you call them? 129 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Financial publications? You know, Fortune magazine stuff like that. This 130 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: then he was gonna be the world's first trillionaire, little 131 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: billionaire Fronto Baggins was going to be the world's first 132 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: tri the trillion dollars so that I could defeat climate 133 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: change and do all the other very important world changing things. 134 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: What did this guy actually even create. That's what's so fascinating. 135 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: What really was the product? It was all based on trust. 136 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: He created effectively a bank for crypto. You give me money, 137 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: I buy the crypto in your name and hold it 138 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: for you, and then you can sell it one way. 139 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: They're kind of like when you give you know, you 140 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: give a major bank your deposit, you give them your money, 141 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: your US dollars, except he did this for Crypto. So 142 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing was really just about trust, which is 143 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: why the collapse of this is rooted and very very straightforward, 144 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: very simple thing. You couldn't trust this guy. He's totally untrustworthy. 145 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: It's a scam. Billions and billions of dollars, big celebrities 146 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: kissing up to him, government regulators meeting with him, and 147 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: who oh, I am honestly amazed by this. It's true 148 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: of Elizabeth Holmes as well, for those of you remember 149 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: she's I think she's got like a nine years in 150 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: prison now for the Pharaonos fraud. Who sits down with 151 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: these individuals and is so entranced and impressed by them, 152 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: because when I see them, I go, this is so obvious, 153 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: it's so transparent. But they must have some skill set 154 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: where they're able to get otherwise very bright, very discerning, 155 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: and in many cases ruthless people to just go, yeah, 156 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: you're a genius. I'm gonna give you all my money, 157 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: what or all my investors money. They're gonna slow roll 158 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: this though, They're gonna slow roll this thing, because when 159 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: you see the full extent of I mean Elon said, 160 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: it's a billion dollars he's given out to different interests. 161 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: You can buy a lot of people off with a 162 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars in brides. When was the last time I 163 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: heard about anyone bribing the establishment with a billion? With 164 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: a billion dollars, you know what I mean? That's that matters. 165 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: That can get a lot of people to look the 166 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: other way while you're doing things. They don't want to 167 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: tell you. They don't want to tell you, they don't 168 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: want to show you who he was given this money too. Yeah, 169 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I understand the FEC stuff has come out and that 170 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: looks pretty bad, but oh, I think it's gonna get 171 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot worse. And you're going to see that he knew, 172 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: he knew how to play this whole system, and he 173 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: knew whose palms degrease and how to how to make 174 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: it happen. This is something that I usually would tell 175 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: on my radio show in previous years, and some people 176 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: some of you listening may know this. A lot of 177 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: you listen across the country won't. But for the parents 178 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: out there, I tell this story because I hope that 179 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that will, for some of 180 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: you give you just a little bit of reassurance and 181 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: just to stay to stay on it. And when it 182 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: comes to education and making sure that you know you're 183 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you're believing in your kid is so critical, right, believing 184 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: in them as in an educational way. I mean, of 185 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: course you love your children, will do anything for them, 186 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: but you know, believing in them and pushing them and 187 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: giving them every opportunity to succeed in an academic environment. 188 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: So I sit here with you now, and obviously Clay 189 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: is out today on vacation, but this is this platform 190 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: that we share that Rush built on. The EIB is 191 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the biggest single talk radio show in the country. Which 192 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: you may not know, some of you might, is that 193 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: I was somebody who actually had a speech impediment. As 194 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: a kid, I had an annunciation disorder. So I was 195 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: falling behind in class. I could not pronounce my own name. 196 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: When I was in the second grade, I would mispronounce 197 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: my own name. And I won't even tell you how 198 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: I pronounced it, but it did not It was not good. 199 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: And you can imagine when you're a kid and you 200 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: say your name to people and they laugh at you. 201 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: That's not particularly confidence boosting or inspiring. And I also 202 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: because of this, I think was falling behind in school 203 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: as well. So going into second grade, third grade, I 204 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: was a kid who was at the bottom of the class. 205 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: They thought about They told my parents I was at 206 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: a Catholic school here in New York. They told my 207 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: parents that I might have to go to a special 208 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: school and that I needed speech therapy. Now, the head 209 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: of the Lowers they called it the lower school at 210 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: the time, So the part of the school that goes 211 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: up to I guess third or fourth grade, was a 212 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: great woman named Jane Warwick who was well known here 213 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: in New York City education circles. And she, with my 214 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: parents backed me. She said, no, no no, no, we're gonna actually, 215 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna fix this. Get We're gonna get him speech therapy, 216 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: and we're going to encourage him and maybe give him 217 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: some extra extra tutoring right for academics. So I went 218 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: from being a kid who couldn't pronounce his own name 219 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: literally could not do it. I mean I would I 220 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: would miss an unci. Asian disorders are tough. You hear 221 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: some people just say a consonant wrong or something. But 222 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: if you do that enough it sounds weird, and people, 223 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: when you're a kid, make fun of you, right, That's 224 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: what was happening to me. So I'm a kid with 225 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: a speech impediment, at the bottom of the class. But 226 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: my parents, my mom and my dad say we're gonna 227 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: we're with you no matter what on this one, and 228 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: we're going to keep him in normal school. You know, 229 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: the school that I was in, I should say, not 230 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: a special education program outside of it. And within about 231 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: eighteen months to two years, the speech thing was totally fixed. 232 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: And within three years I wasn't at the bottom of 233 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: the class. I was number one in my class. By 234 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the time I got to the eighth grade, I got 235 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars scholarship to a private high school 236 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: in New York called Regis and was a standout on 237 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: the debate team. And I will tell you a quick 238 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: fun story about that. And of course now I'm here 239 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: on the clan Buck Show, the biggest talk radio program 240 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: in the country, So you can imagine quite a storyline 241 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: arc here from speech I him into biggest radio show 242 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: in America. I always remember that I had just won. 243 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: It may have been my second, but I think my first, 244 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: my second I think I wish I could tell you 245 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: my first speech and debate tournament as a high school 246 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: freshman and I got to run up to I thought 247 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: she was so pretty. It was just a couple of 248 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: years older than me. My speech therapist daughter was at 249 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: a party. She was a year or two older than midtime, 250 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: and I I always thought she was you know, I had 251 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: like a kind of a crush on her, and I 252 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: just remember I went up to and I was like, hey, 253 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was a patient of your mom's and 254 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: I just won my debate tournament. And I can tell 255 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: you she did not care at all. She's like, who 256 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: is this younger guy who's talking to me at a party? Like, 257 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: where's the where's the captain of the football team? Get 258 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: out of your speech, nerd. But point being, for me, 259 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: it was a big moment. It was a big moment, 260 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: and I really appreciated that. So to all the parents 261 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: out there, if you and look, I think, especially now, 262 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: given how much a lot of kids have had to, 263 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, step away from the classroom. They've been forced 264 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: to be masked up, away from their friends, away from 265 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: normal learning, away from their favorite teachers, you know, you 266 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: might require a little extra you know, you might have 267 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: to do more at home than you have in the past, 268 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and maybe some of the test scores that you're going 269 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: to see in the next year or two aren't what 270 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: they weren't what they gonna we're before, or maybe you're 271 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: a little concerned about it. Stay on it, stay with it. 272 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I think the single most important thing that parents can do, 273 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: and this is just from my own experience for a kid, 274 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: especially a kid who's struggling a little bit, whether it's 275 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: with a speech issue or just school in general or 276 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: behavioral issue, is stay with them, stay on it, and 277 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: believe in them. If you do that, it'll be fine. 278 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, well, will it turn it? Will a person 279 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: turn into a talk radio host? I don't know. Maybe 280 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: will your son or daughter go that route? I mean 281 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It's not an easy life, by the way. 282 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it necessarily, But stay with them, stay 283 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: on it, believe in them, and it will all be fine. 284 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. And that's what my parents 285 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: did is I got great parents. They're very lucky. Welcome 286 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: back to Clay and Buck. Don't forget to subscribe to 287 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: our podcast, The Clay, Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. The 288 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: iHeart app a great place to get it. Also the 289 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: pre show, the Buck Sexton Show podcast. It's short, it's 290 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: a quick one, the appetizer for the big meal of 291 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck and Clay does a post show streaming 292 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter too. So we got a lot of content 293 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: for all of you out there to check out. And 294 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: we also may have a book for you right now. 295 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: Noah Rothman with us. He is over at Commentary Magazine. 296 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: He's got a new book out. I like the title, 297 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: The Rise of the New Puritans Fighting Back against Progressives, 298 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: War on Fun. Noah, thanks for being with us, my pleasure, 299 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. So libs hate fun these days. 300 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: That feels like something that we talk about on the 301 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: show with some regularity. They don't like comedy, they don't 302 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: like people to have too much of a good time, 303 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: it seems. What does this have to do with puritanism? 304 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: And bring me into the crux of the argument of 305 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: your latest opus. Yeah, So, basically, I think you're probably 306 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: familiar with the premise is that essentially we're treated to 307 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of moral crusades now from the left, which 308 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: is very jarring if you grew up in this country. 309 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Over the last thirty forty years. Normally for our experience, 310 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: the tendency to see in seemingly innocent cultural fair the 311 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: stuff that corrupts you into grade society was something that 312 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: was native to the right. It was the left to 313 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: emphasize self fulfillment, self gratification, even hedonism. By contrast, and today, 314 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: as you say, we're treated to moral crusades where entertainment 315 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: products have to have a grander social power value than 316 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: just being entertainment, where comedy and comedians emphasize the pain 317 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: that somebody had to experience so that you could have 318 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: something as trite and frivolous as a punchline. Sports coverage 319 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: that shoehorns digressions about the lamentable state of race relations 320 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: in America into their rig and when fans object, as 321 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: they often do, they're admonished for clinging to their escapism 322 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: over their duty as a moral, responsible citizen to dwell 323 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: on the world's horrors at all times. Why did this happen? 324 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: That's the question I asked in this book. And I've 325 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: come to this idea of a moral framework that is 326 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: informing this which is derived from the origins of progressivism, 327 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: as progressives identifying more with progressivism than liberalism. They've adopted 328 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: its habits of mind, among them turtanical traits like utopianism, 329 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: a fear of banalities, and an anxiety towards idleness, that 330 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: which isn't productive contributing to the project, the project of 331 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: our time being, the advancement of the progressive project. Submission, 332 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: it's worse than worthless. It detracts from that effort. So 333 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: this book is designed to help you identify, sort of 334 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: solve this puzzle that we've all been staring after the 335 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: last five years and unable to discern. But it's also 336 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: kind of Irreverend. It's supposed to give you a permission 337 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: structure to laugh at these people because while as a 338 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: small group they punch above their weight and they're very intimidating, 339 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: but they don't have to be a lot of what 340 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: they do is objectively hilarious, and this book is designed 341 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: to allow you told an opportunity to laugh at that 342 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: which is objectively funny. Okay, this is perfect, Noah, because 343 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on the show. If you remember 344 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: the first protest that they had against Dave Chappelle at Netflix, 345 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: another comedian showed up there and he just made a 346 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: placard and it just said I like jokes. Jokes are fun. 347 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: And he just kind of walked around saying that, and 348 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: the woke community ripped down his banner and basically, you know, 349 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of attacked the idea that he could walk around 350 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: and say jokes are fun. So here is the question 351 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of our listeners have out there. 352 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: You're right and the diagnosis that you have given, and 353 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: how crazy this has become. When can we get back 354 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: to comedians just being able to tell whatever joke they 355 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: want to tell? And how do we get there? I mean, 356 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: there are real commercial pressures at work breaking down this 357 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: censorious moral structure that's being imposed on comedy. I see 358 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: parallels with how the moral strictures around calm stockery, the 359 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: nineteenth century efforts to police public morality broke down based 360 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: on commercial pressures, and I sort of identify that as 361 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: in the story Banned in Boston. That phrase used to 362 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: delineate titilating literary experiences that had the power to corrupt you, 363 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: corrupt society. It was a warning against impure literature, and 364 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: it was very successful well into the twentieth century. When 365 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: it began to break down. It broke down because band 366 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: in Boston stopped being a warning against impure literature and 367 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: became a powerful advertisement for it. Right trigger warning, We're 368 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: going to have too much fun if you read this. Yes, 369 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: publishers tried to have their books banned in Boston to 370 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: increase sales around the country. If there's a modern equivalent, 371 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it's banned on Facebook, banned on Amazon. Where 372 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: conservative books and they're usually conservative books tend to be 373 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: censored by twenty some things who don't know what they're doing, 374 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: and they have profound reach. They become best sellers well 375 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: beyond disproportionate to the pr campaigns around that book, because 376 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: it becomes an advertisement for them. You're always going to 377 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: have a conoclast, You're always going to have taboo breakers. 378 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: That's the cost of living in a free society, and 379 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: it's a low price to pay, and that's sort of 380 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: an advertisement for experiences that you just have to have yourself. 381 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Will contribute to the breaking down of this phenomenon. There's 382 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: probably going to be a lot of pain along the way, 383 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: but the bottom line is just something that a company 384 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: that has a fiduciary responsibility to its investors can't ignore. 385 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Like Netflix like Spotify. You're beginning to see the cracks 386 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: in this facade. Rothman. He's an editor over at Commentary Magazine. 387 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: His book is the Rise of the New Puritans, fighting 388 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: back against Progressives War on Fun, and that is definitely 389 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: a thing they're fighting, the War on fun. But Noah, 390 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: switching to a very different kind of fight, a real conflict, 391 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: a war that's way right now. I know you have 392 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: a degree in Russian studies and political science. You focused 393 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: on the former Soviet Union for your graduate degree, and 394 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: our following situation in Ukraine closely I'm seeing today we're 395 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: considering sending over the A ten ward Hog platform fixed 396 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: wing platform to help the Ukrainians against Russian armor. Where 397 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: do you think all this is going? And how do 398 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: you think the Biden administrations handled this? I have not 399 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: seen that report, and that would be something of a 400 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: game changer, right. Remember very early in this conflict, where 401 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: there was a stalled convoy on the way into Keys 402 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and it was miles long, and every military analyst, well, 403 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: if they only had an eight ten they could knock 404 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: this cacamboy out, the war would be over in a minute. 405 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: That's very interesting. We've had the West has sort of 406 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: hamstrung itself here because we've had conversations among ourselves over 407 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: what's escalatory with not escalatory. What Ukraine is allowed to 408 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: do with the platforms that we give them, if they're 409 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: not allowed to train fire, you track fire coming in 410 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: from Russia and then return fire based on what they're 411 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: they're tracking. I mean, we're we're tying one hand behind 412 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: their back and the Russians are paying attention. We set 413 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: the pace of what we decide as esculatory, and they 414 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: subsequently adopt what we ever, what we determine as esculatory, 415 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: only to reverse ourselves later on fixed wing aircraft drones, 416 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: as we said, in multiple launch rocket systems. We should 417 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: probably stop doing that. Right now, it's a game of 418 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: inches in the don Bass, but we're not we're not 419 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: paying much attention to the counter offensives that are going 420 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: around of Ukrainian lad counter offensives around Nikolaiev and Kirson, 421 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: and they're being relatively successful. So right now you can 422 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: only foresee stalemates, but there's there's movements, and it has 423 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot to do with these weapons platforms that we're 424 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: giving Ukraine to great effect. We should probably if our 425 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: objective is for Ukraine to win this war, and it 426 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: is then we should endorse that objective and stop behaving 427 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: as though we sort of want a victory but not 428 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: a total victory. Either we want rushed to lose or 429 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: we don't. Yeah, it is kind of wild to think 430 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: about about where we are headed here. Are you optimistic? 431 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: You just wrote this, this entire book looking at the 432 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: direction that our censorious culture has gone. You talked about 433 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: maybe the political pressure, the banded Boston angle, and some 434 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: of that maybe starting to filter into Netflix. We certainly 435 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: saw the biggest and most successful hit of the summer 436 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: across many different age groups was Maverick Top Gun or 437 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: top Gun Maverick, I should say, which had almost no 438 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: woke related commentary inside of it. Are you optimistic that 439 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: we're coming through the tail end of this or do 440 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: you think we have a bunch more years left? I 441 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: think we have years left, but I am optimistic that 442 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: we've reached peak woke. That is a great example of this, 443 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: not because it's anti per se, it just is in 444 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: pro It didn't advance any of the themes of this, 445 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, it didn't have this plotting didactic narrative, which 446 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: is very puritanical. That has to have modern contemporary mores 447 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: forced on you, and that can't be subtle because you 448 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: can't be trusted with some Maverick did not come out 449 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: as a pan sexual member of the France community yet 450 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: that yeah, who knows. But yeah, I do think we're 451 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: coming out of the end of that, and I'm optimistic 452 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: about that. And I'm optimistic to a degree about the 453 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. I don't know how that ends, and 454 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: it might not end in a way that the West 455 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: would see is satisfactory. But I certainly I don't think 456 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: that Russia calculated properly the degree to which NATO would 457 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: respond in a sustained material way to its aggression. I 458 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: was surprised by the response and the cohesive response, because 459 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the Russian strategy has always been to break NATO's alliance, 460 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: and that would be to test the frontier, to force 461 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: Paris and London in Berlin to contemplate a real war 462 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: with Moscow for Talin, and the assumption on Moscow's part 463 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: was that the NATO would blink. I don't know if 464 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: they think that anymore. I certainly don't think that anymore. 465 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: So there is some benefit to come out of this 466 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: in the form of a very reinvigorated, cohesive Atlantic alliance, 467 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: which will certainly stay Russia's hand in the future. That 468 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: also means we probably our adversaries have misjudged us, and 469 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: we've probably misjudged them. So there's a lot there's a 470 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: lot more misjudgment coming. Check out No Rowin's book The 471 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Rise of the New Peorgians Fighting Back against Progressives. War 472 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: on Fun. We are all fighting the war on fun 473 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: because we want to have fun here. Thanks so much, 474 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: No appreciate it. Thank you guys. Take care of Florida 475 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: Governor Ryan DeSantis. You played in the Little League World 476 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: Series as a kid up in Williamsport, right, That's right, 477 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: And it was the type of thing where we at 478 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season in Dunedin, Florida, our motto 479 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: was WWT. We wrote that on the bottom of our hats, 480 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: and that was for we Want Taiwan because Taiwan at 481 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: the time was the juggernaut and they would win the 482 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Little League World Series. I remember not and you know it. 483 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: Then it then came out years later that you know, 484 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: they were winning twelve year old Little League World Series 485 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: with fourteen year olds. But nevertheless, that's just the way 486 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: it was, and so that was kind of our goal. 487 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: So we started from the district tournament, sectional state Southern 488 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Regional back then was Texas all the way to Virginia 489 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: in the entire southeast at thirteen states, and there were 490 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: only four American teams that would make it back then, 491 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: and so that was a huge, huge undertaking and we 492 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: made it and we didn't end up playing Taiwan, but 493 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: it was it was a heck of a ride. And 494 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: just as now as a parent, and yeah, my kids 495 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: are five, four and two, So the two olds have 496 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: played t ball. Okay, they both like it and they're 497 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna want to do it probably going forward. 498 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: But you do appreciate how much the parents have to 499 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: put into these seasons. I mean, we were practicing every day. 500 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: You're traveling around the state for all these tournaments, and 501 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, all our parents had to work 502 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. But you basically go along 503 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: for the ride, and so you don't really have summer 504 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: vacation plans when you're in the heart of Little League 505 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: summer baseball in the road to Williamsport preach it. I'm 506 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of that right now. Now, I'm curious, 507 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: do you still have VHS tapes of that run? When 508 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: was the last time you watched something from your Little 509 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: League World Series team? You guys, ever have any reunions 510 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So I went last year. They 511 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: asked me to come for the Dunedin Little League closing 512 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: ceremonies and that was the anniversary. So this is twenty 513 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. It was the anniversary of our Little League 514 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: World Series run. And I when they asked me to 515 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: do it, I'm like, yeah, man, I can't believe it's 516 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: been twenty years. So like, no, no governor spent thirty years. 517 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, time flies. But so we 518 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: had some of my teammates were there and we were 519 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: able to do that and then we were able to 520 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: speak to obviously all the current players and the families 521 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So that was a neat thing. And that 522 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: was the same fields that I played on back when 523 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I was a kid. Back then we had Duney National, 524 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: which is what I was. You also had done Eed 525 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: America and they've since added those. That's just one little 526 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: league now. But it's interesting. When I was eleven, uh 527 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: Dunney National we lost in three games and we were 528 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: out so very quick All Stars and Nope, you didn't 529 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: have really much of a chance. But Dunney American was 530 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: one game away from william Sport they lost in the 531 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Southern Regional Championships, and that kind of gave us the 532 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: notion that, hey, maybe we can do it when we're twelve, 533 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: and so we ended up doing that. But we had 534 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: dunned An American one game away from going in two 535 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety and then Dunny National my team made 536 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: it in nineteen ninety one, So pretty incredible for one 537 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: relatively small municipality. I think, by the way, you also 538 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: played at Yale. And if I'm not mistaken, George Bush Senior, 539 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: wasn't he the Yale baseball camp captain as well? Am 540 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: I wrong? Or is that an overall? He was? He 541 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: was the Yale baseball captain in nineteen forty eight, and 542 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: so he had already served in World War Two and 543 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: then went to college after that, And back then Yale 544 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: would go to the College World Series. You know they were. 545 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: They were a good program. But the most iconic picture 546 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: in the history of Yale athletics is Babe Ruth coming 547 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: to Yale field to get an award from the Yale 548 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: baseball team in George Bush forty one gave Ruth the award, 549 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: and Ruth he died within like a year, so that 550 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: was like one of his last public appearances, and so 551 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: that's something that's kind of reverberated. Now. I was the 552 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: baseball captain in two thousand and one there and it 553 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: just so happened to be Yale's three hundredth anniversary. So 554 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: they did this big jubilee in the spring to kind 555 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: of celebrate that, and Bush forty one was kind of 556 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: the featured speaker, so he was in town for that 557 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: and he asked to come and meet with the baseball team. 558 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: And so I was getting ready to go out to practice. 559 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: So Yale Field is not on the Yale campus. You 560 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of got to take a bus. It's in West Haven, Connecticut, 561 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: and so you go. They'd run buses from the athletic 562 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: department out there. So I'm getting ready to go on 563 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: the bus, no different any other practice. The athletic director 564 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: yells from me. He's like, hey, are you are you 565 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: going to go out to practice again? He said, get 566 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: out the hurry up pretty But I'm like it was weird. 567 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: Why would you do you care with it? So people 568 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: are like, ask give me about practice, like it was 569 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: this big deal. Well, I get out there to the 570 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: field and there's all these guys with suits and the 571 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: earpieces in kind of like in the bullpen area, and 572 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at myself. I'm like, this is really where it. 573 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: So my coach called me over and he's like, listen, 574 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: he's like, you see those guys out there with the suits, 575 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: their secret service agents. George Bush forty one is here. 576 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: He's like, you tell all those guys before he comes here, 577 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: do not drop any f bombs in front the former president. 578 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, I but he came 579 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: out and basically just started, um, you know, talking about 580 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, our season and everything like that. But I 581 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: thought that that was really that was really nice of 582 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: him to be interested in coming out there. And this 583 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: is a guy that obviously had had done a lot 584 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: in his life, and he was a really nice guy. 585 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: And at that point, you know, I was somebody. You know, 586 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: I was a blue collar kid from the Tampa Bay area. 587 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: I end up there playing baseball, but I had never 588 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: really met anyone that was that was that well known, 589 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of an interesting thing. But 590 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: since I was the captain, I welcome him. The Yale 591 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: field introduced him to the team and we had, you know, 592 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: we kind of had a Powwell session there all the 593 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: way back in two thousand and one. Are there pictures 594 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: of that or video of that? I don't think I've 595 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: seen it. You know, it's interesting. There definitely our pictures somewhere. 596 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: So it was the local paper in new Haven, the 597 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: New Haven Register was there and they were taking pictures. 598 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: And so I remember after that happened, one of the 599 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: guys at the athletic departments like, you need you should 600 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: get that picture. Send it to him. He'll sign it 601 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: to you and give it back. But you know, I was, 602 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: I was graduating, I had all this stuff going on, 603 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: so I just never did it. So so they are 604 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: out there somewhere. They may not be on the Internet, 605 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: but but they're definitely there, probably within the newspapers archives 606 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: there you go, apb, I bet we've got people who 607 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: could track that down. We'll see if we can find 608 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: somebody out there to define that. Now, by the way, 609 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: how would you assess your baseball if you were a scout? 610 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: What would you have said about Ron Decantis college baseball player, 611 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: how would you have assessed your game? You know, I 612 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: mean I was a good Division one player. I think 613 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: I had three thirty six my senior year. I always 614 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: hitting him. I was a four year starter. I always 615 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: hit in the middle of the lineup, third, fourth, fifth, 616 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: I stole I think my coach. Actually, I had him 617 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: come when I was running for governor and I had 618 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: him do We did a rally and I had a 619 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: bunch of people just speaking. People I knew from the 620 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: military or congress would say, hey, you know, Congressman to 621 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: Santa's great guy. Here's what I know about. Well, he 622 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: spoke about about coaching me and everything, and he had 623 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: the crowd in the palm of his hand. He's like 624 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: five hundred activists down in Boca ratone and he said, 625 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: now listen. People asked me, it was a good player. 626 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Here's what I'd say. I calculated his career stats, and 627 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: I calculated Bush forty one's career stats, and Congressman to 628 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: Santis hit one hundred points higher than George Bush forty one. 629 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: And everyone started to happen about that. So seeyeh, it 630 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: was fun, but it was interesting. The guy that succeeded 631 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: me as captain of the Yale baseball team was a 632 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: fellow named Craig Breslow, who was a left handed pitcher 633 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: from Trumbull, Connecticut, and he got drafted I think like 634 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: the fifteenth twentieth round. He got released after year or two, 635 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: but then he got hooked up with an independent ball 636 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: He started throwing in the low nineties, hands up in 637 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Double A with the Padres and Lo and behold. As 638 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: a left handed pitcher, throw in ninety two, you know, 639 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: you're one call away from the big league. So he 640 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: ends up in the big leagues a few years after 641 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: he graduates from Yale, and he ended up playing twelve years. 642 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: Fast forward to me getting elected to Congress in twenty twelve, 643 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: and people know that I'm friends with him, and they 644 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: know that we played together. So these these reporters would 645 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: ask me. They're like, yeah, your friend Craig Breslow playing baseball, 646 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: you know for I think he may have been for 647 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: the Red Sox. Then he's like, he's like, why didn't 648 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: you play in the major leagues. I was like, if 649 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: you think I was good enough to play in the 650 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: major leagues, and I would choose Congress over the big leagues. 651 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: You're nuts. I mean, of course I wouldn't be in 652 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: Congress if I could do it so, but it was 653 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: interesting to be able to see that, and he ended 654 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: up having a really good career, and I think, other 655 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: than Ron Darling, he probably had the longest pro baseball 656 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: career of anyone that has played at Yale,