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Speaker 1: Titan that she has become. Mary Tally Boden, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Michael.

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Speaker 1: You always act like I'm about to say something that

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Speaker 1: We now have four five hundred and fifty one peer

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with that COVID shot.

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Speaker 2: It is not like any other vaccine on the market.

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Speaker 2: The government has completely abandoned them. You only have one

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Speaker 2: It's the most toxic. It's a toxic part of the virus,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the spike protein because

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Speaker 2: Well, some people they have no symptoms related to it

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Speaker 2: Ideally we would have a test to actually measure spike protein,

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Speaker 1: Push this shot on everyone, well.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I am seeing and the patients that did

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Speaker 1: you see as the most common long term problems that

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Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine quote unquote occasioned that you did not

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Speaker 1: see in your practice before.

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Speaker 2: I think the neurological issues are the most concerning. It's

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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing now, you know, I tracked a different

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Speaker 2: I don't see the people that are coming in with

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Speaker 2: heart attacks or strokes because I'm an outpatient position, and

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Speaker 2: I don't see the cancer such. I don't treat cancer, so,

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Speaker 2: but the people that are injured that are coming to

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Speaker 2: see me. What I'm seeing primarily is neurological issues. So,

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Speaker 2: like I said before, the unexplained tremors, ire seeing rapid

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Speaker 2: onset of Parkinson's cognitive problems, brain fog, debilitating fatigue. So

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Speaker 2: and you know, neurological problems are very difficult to treat.

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Speaker 1: Is this going to end it there?

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Speaker 2: Well, you asked me, that's the most common and most

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Speaker 2: concerning thing that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: Just scanning the emails I'm getting while you're talking, the

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Speaker 1: biggest questions are the Pfizer shot, the Novovacs, the Johnson

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Speaker 1: and Johnson Are you are you personally noticing a higher

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Speaker 1: propensity for problems with one or the other.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that's had the novavacs, so maybe

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Speaker 2: that's a good sign, but I mean no, I would

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Speaker 2: say it's broadly distributed. I don't see as many J

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Speaker 2: and J, but not as many people got to J

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Speaker 2: and J and Jay and J through their credit that

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Speaker 2: was taken off the market. But in terms of majerna

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Speaker 2: versus spiser, I'm not noticing some huge trend. And the

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Speaker 2: other thing people need to realize is everybody that got

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Speaker 2: the shot is likely poisoned. I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: them were duds. You know, they required very stringent storage requirements.

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Speaker 2: You had to have a special freezer, So if they

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Speaker 2: were left out of that freezer for a long period time,

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Speaker 2: it's possible that they just became inert and you didn't

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Speaker 2: even do anything. And I don't think I think, I

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Speaker 2: don't think all lots are the same. I think they've

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Speaker 2: said that the e loots are worse, but the overwhelming

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Speaker 2: majority of people are probably fine. But there is, you know,

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Speaker 2: a subset of people that have had severe injuries, and

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Speaker 2: it's more than I've seen with any other pharmaceutical project

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Speaker 2: on the market.

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Speaker 1: Are we talking solidimide levels?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this will. We're going to reflect on

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Speaker 2: this in history like we reflect on polidimide definitely.

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Speaker 1: Well, at least we use solidimide as a case of

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Speaker 1: how careful we need to be before we put a

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Speaker 1: drug on the market. I think there are still a

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Speaker 1: lot of people within the medical establishment and this is

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Speaker 1: probably this is the reason they're coming after you, is

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Speaker 1: because your presence and your voice embarrasses them and shames

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Speaker 1: them for what they did and didn't do, but mostly

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Speaker 1: did do. And it is I think that's part of

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Speaker 1: the problem. You know, you and I have had this conversation.

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Speaker 1: My mother worshiped doctors. When you went to the doctor,

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Speaker 1: you know, you were out in the in the waiting room,

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Speaker 1: and you were halfway to healthy because the doctor healed you.

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Speaker 1: The doctors were you know, these were god men, these

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Speaker 1: were special people. And when a doctor told you, doctor

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Speaker 1: says I have to do this, man, you did it

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Speaker 1: because the doctor knows everything and cares. And then to

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Speaker 1: see how many doctors were willing to fall in line,

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Speaker 1: whether for a financial reason or fear of what happened

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Speaker 1: to you, that that maybe in a good way. I

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Speaker 1: hate my guy. I don't trust my government, and now

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Speaker 1: I now don't trust my medical establishment. Doesn't mean I

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Speaker 1: don't have procedures done or are or consult doctors. Interestingly,

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Speaker 1: the doctors that are my closest friends are We're not

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Speaker 1: shot pushers. We're quite the opposite, even people within medical

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Speaker 1: medical facilities. It is, it is, It is quite interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, we get to meet so many interesting people

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Speaker 1: from interesting people. Now they drive me crazy because you know,

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Speaker 1: what I've learned is really really interesting people Like if

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Speaker 1: you heard me and Dan Pastorini talking or texting and

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Speaker 1: then talking on the phone last night, and you think

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Speaker 1: we hate each other, but really really interesting people, strong personality,

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Speaker 1: people that you go they're not you know. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: you know, but you appreciates.

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Speaker 2: Nice life.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and good Nise Theisman