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Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Hello, everybody? Happy? What

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Speaker 1: is today? Thursday? Happy Thursday? We're recording this on a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and there's so much to talk about. The Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: are four and two. Just got a huge, huge, huge

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Speaker 1: Monday night football win over the Buffalo Bills. I'm still

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Speaker 1: fired up. I know you're supposed to burn these wins

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Speaker 1: after like twenty four hours. You're supposed to celebrate and

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Speaker 1: them move on. I have not moved on yet. Mac.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. You know I can't wait every week until

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Speaker 1: we do this. I mean I look forward to these

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Speaker 1: Thursdays and so here we are doing it again. I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy because we're doing this, and I'm very happy

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Speaker 1: because of that win, big win. And you you say

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Speaker 1: I tell you who didn't want to turn it loose?

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Speaker 1: With all those fans in the stand because after we

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Speaker 1: won the ballgame, Mike, Keith and I were leading out

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Speaker 1: of the window, you know, giving fist bumps to everybody

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Speaker 1: that was coming through, you know, air fist bumps to

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Speaker 1: all of them. Rhet Brian had to grab my belt

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Speaker 1: so I didn't just dive out of the window of

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Speaker 1: third broadcast booth and start crowdsurfing. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: all of that. It was Monday night football. It was

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Speaker 1: all everything. It should have been two really good teams

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Speaker 1: playing and you came down to a game could not

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Speaker 1: have been more exciting, could not have had you know,

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Speaker 1: it had what seven lead changes. I mean, it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: It really was. What a great experience and for everybody

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Speaker 1: to experience it there together was outstanding. But you do

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Speaker 1: have to move forward. I mean, we've been at practice

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Speaker 1: all week. The team has done a nice job of

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Speaker 1: turning the page. There are a lot of obstacles they're

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Speaker 1: going to have to overcome on a short week, but

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Speaker 1: here we are. But you can overcome a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: especially when you got to win absolutely, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody really captured the moment the excitement of that

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Speaker 1: win as well as you did. Coach mac final play

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Speaker 1: of the game was an exciting one. To put it mildly,

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Speaker 1: I love a good goal line stand. I love defensive

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Speaker 1: plays to win ball games. And that's exactly how the

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Speaker 1: Titans won it. And Coach Mac, I think that your

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Speaker 1: call was epic. Well it was organic, I promise you that.

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Speaker 1: And you know how I called games, I say exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm feeling. I've been involved in a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: But you know I was to me and you say,

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to make pulos off, especially defensively,

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Speaker 1: and especially against a really good team like we were

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Speaker 1: so all in on it. And you know, Mike Keith

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just stepped there. I'm up

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Speaker 1: But Mike Keith was doing the proper thing. You're supposed

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Speaker 1: to wait for a referee signal. Well, the refs weren't

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Speaker 1: making any call. But I've been up there before. As

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Speaker 1: I said, I was Jeff Fishers, I in the sky

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Speaker 1: for twelve years when I was his assistant head coach,

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Speaker 1: and I do know that that kind of play at

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Speaker 1: the goal line amy it is, it's officiated horizontally side judge,

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Speaker 1: was it was a very very not only exciting moment,

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Speaker 1: that was a monumental moment, and we may be looking

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Speaker 1: because that's how emotional you know you were, and you

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can you not be happy? That's why

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Speaker 1: The lights and all of the show associated with an

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Speaker 1: So it was everything that came together. It was I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was what you expect from an NFL game. If

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Speaker 1: the bar has been set. I mean you've got to

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Speaker 1: be hooked. Well, you're hooked, and then you're going, why

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Speaker 1: haven't I been to more of these? And so that's

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Speaker 1: And we played Monday, So it's only been three days.

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Speaker 1: I've heard from all sixty nine thousand that were there.

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Speaker 1: You know, people just wanted to talk about how just

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Speaker 1: and we will. But there's one thing that I will

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Speaker 1: that was having Cheryl Crowe in our booth during pregames.

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Speaker 1: How cool is that? I mean, it's the gift that

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Speaker 1: it really was, you know. And and I've known Cheryl

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Crowe. Second thing, did you thank her for soak

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Speaker 1: So well, I mean, if that's the only thing your

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Speaker 1: Eyes and what she continues to do, I mean, I

429
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Speaker 1: absolutely it. She is a real per star in this area.

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Speaker 1: Check out our conversation with Laura. Laura Oakman. You know her,

431
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: you love her. You've seen her everywhere in the sports world.

432
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Speaker 1: And if you think you don't know who Laura Oakman is,

433
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: you're wrong because you do because she is everywhere. We've

434
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Speaker 1: got to start by talking about the Laura Coach Mac relationship.

435
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: You guys are buddies that have gone back for a

436
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: long time. Give me the origin story of Coach Mac

437
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: and Laura Oakman. Laura, let me talk first, please. It

438
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: goes It goes back to the to the Camelot days

439
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I mean it really does, because you know,

440
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: I was with the Bears in Mike Dicka and Camelot

441
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 1: is a great word to describe it, because there have

442
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: been a lot of great eras in professional sports history

443
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: with cities, but that that camelot era in Chicago with

444
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Bulls, the way things were rolling there,

445
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: and then Laura Oakman was right in the middle of

446
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: all those great Chicago bull runs. And look, I mean

447
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: her professionalism has spanned a whole lot of sports. But

448
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: when she was with Sports Challenge Chicago and was covering

449
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: was covering the Bulls. I mean, she won an Emmy

450
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: for it, and rightfully so, because she was outstanding. And

451
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: then you know she was she was around the Bears

452
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: quite a bit too. But the thing, the thing about

453
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Speaker 1: Laura Oakman was and and here let me just say

454
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: this that that's important and she and she talks to

455
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Speaker 1: me about being an advocate. The only way I'm an

456
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: advocate for females in this business is ones that get it,

457
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: and ones that are serious about it, and ones that

458
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: truly love it. You cannot manufact your respect nor experience

459
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: in this business. You have to earn it and Laura

460
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: Oakman earned it, and she was. She was somebody that

461
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: as a coach, and I've done it all coaching in

462
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: the National Football League of an assistant coach, I've been

463
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: an assistant head coach, I've been a coordinator, I've been

464
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: a head coach, and through all of those times, you

465
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: find out really quick those people that you can trust

466
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: and those people you can trust with information that is

467
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: vital for a broadcaster to be able to do their job,

468
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: but also you have to be able to have an

469
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Speaker 1: innate trust with them. Laura Oakman covers all of that

470
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: in spades. She's one of my favorite human beings, not

471
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: only as a professional, but just because she is the

472
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: best example for somebody that wants to get into this business,

473
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: male or female, that has worked for it and has

474
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: earned every accolade she's ever gotten. But the biggest thing

475
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: she's earned is the trust of people in this business.

476
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Speaker 1: That's hard to come by. I would like to record

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00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: this and make it on my ringtone, so when anyone

478
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: calls me up to hear, including myself, I would call

479
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: it every hour to hear this. So there's a million things.

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00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: I love what you just said. Coach mec and how

481
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: much I appreciate it. But here's the biggest thing. I'd say,

482
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: I was so young and dumb when I met you.

483
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: I was so intimidated in that world, in that camelot world.

484
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm a Chicago girl, and so I got that opportunity

485
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: at Sports Channel before I was ready for it, and

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: so I made every mistake I questioned myself. I didn't

487
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: believe in myself, and so to have kindness at that

488
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: age and at that stage was everything. I was so

489
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: intimidated every day going into Hollis Hall, which is where

490
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: the Bears practice, and at that time it was that

491
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, comparing it to even the Titans building,

492
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: you could have put Hollis Hall like in the lobby,

493
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: so little, and so what would happen is the reporters

494
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: would all just be lumped into basically a hallway, and

495
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: we would wait and the coaches would have to walk

496
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: through this tiny little hallway to go to the offices

497
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: from practice, right like from practice. And I just always

498
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: remember a coachback was one of the ones that stopped

499
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: and said hello and treated not just me, but everybody

500
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: was such respected. I was at an age where I

501
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: didn't even know how to build a relationship with the

502
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: coach yet because I was so intimidated and I was

503
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: so scared, and so I remember that was you were

504
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: one of the first coaches that I had that human

505
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: interaction with. And it wasn't about the story, and it

506
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: wasn't about practice that day. It really was you checking

507
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: in how are you and asking where was I living,

508
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: and just questions getting to know me. And that was

509
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: huge for a young woman, for huge for a young

510
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: reporter who was just learning about building trust and learning

511
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: how to build relationships. You gave me a huge glimpse

512
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: into that. Because I love what you just said. I

513
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: say the same thing. People ask us all the time

514
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: amy about sexism and sports, and I always say, the

515
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: locker rooms are the easiest. The coaches and the players

516
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: are the easiest. If they respect you, you're in That

517
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: gender does not matter. You have to earn their respect,

518
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: and once you're in, you're in. The industry is a

519
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: whole different thing, but the world of sports and that

520
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: bubble is the most welcoming one once you prove you

521
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: belong and Coach Mac was truly one of the first

522
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: people that made me feel like I might belong in

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00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: this well Laura, and that's that's kind of you to say.

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00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: But let me just say this. I mean, you understand

525
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I was a very I mean I was the youngest

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00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: coach on that staff by long ways. If you I mean,

527
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: you know this. You talk about the small building, but

528
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: we were a small staff. There was only eight of us.

529
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: And you had long time historic coaches there, Johnny Rowland,

530
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: the Dick Stanfell's Hall of Fame coaches, you know that

531
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: that that that were there. And I was brand new

532
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: to the league. And when Mike Dickon gave me that chance.

533
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Let me say this, when I had thirteen years of

534
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: major college football and when I was hired, they one

535
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: of the things that some of those professional coaches told

536
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: me was, look, you cannot be as close to these

537
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: players as you were to your college players. We understand

538
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: that you were. You were a really top notch recruiter.

539
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: People say that you're this. He said, this is a business.

540
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: You can't get very close. You can't get you do this,

541
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: And so you know, I took I absorbed that for

542
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: a minute, and then when I got there, I said, no,

543
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: that's not true because it's a people business. And so

544
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: I felt so blessed to be there, and I just

545
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: loved every minute of it. And part of it was

546
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: meeting people like yourself that were there. You never gave

547
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: off a vibe like you were nervous. You never, but

548
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: but what you did give the vibe off was is

549
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: that I am here to do a job, and I

550
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: am also here to be able to, you know, to

551
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: earn your trust, and I'm serious about what I'm doing.

552
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the vibe that I got. But believe me,

553
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: I mean I was a young coach too. Here's what

554
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: I knew when I took that job at Chicago. Nothing

555
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: zero I knew. I knew. I knew absolutely zero. I

556
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: mean the first thing I did, Lord, I called Mike

557
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: Singletary and said, please, let's go to dinner, you know,

558
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: introduced myself and said, I need to find out what

559
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: I need to do to earn these guys respect because

560
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: you're talking about, you know, the Super Bowl shuffle Bears.

561
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: You're talking about the most iconic team in the nation

562
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: at the time. The three things that he told me,

563
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: and I think you'll you'll substantiate this, you know, in

564
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: your career, he said, He said, coach, Mike, let me

565
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: just tell you something three things. First of all, always

566
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: tell us the truth. And he said number two is

567
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: if you don't know, just say you don't know, don't

568
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: try to be Essen's we'll figured it out together. And

569
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: he said the third and most important thing is let

570
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: us feel and let us know not just out of

571
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: your mouth, but from your heart that you value us

572
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: as people as much as you do that number on

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: our back. And so that's what I did, and it

574
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: worked because I'm thirty five years into this league and

575
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: still going. And here's what I say to that is

576
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: you were one of the pioneers of that. Because now

577
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: we're big on get to know your players as people,

578
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: right like now every coach will say that, you know,

579
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: if they do it, that's another thing. But it's just

580
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: get to know your players as people. Make sure that

581
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: they know you care, and all of those things that

582
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot of these coaches have to get coach to

583
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: do now and have to shift their brain and their

584
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: way of thinking because they've never done that before. You've

585
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: always embodied that, You've always exemplified that that's who you are.

586
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: So I could see when you got in where so

587
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: many coaches would try to turn that shift the other way.

588
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't work here. They don't want you to get

589
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: to know them as people. They're not gonna you know.

590
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you find out it

591
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're at coaching college or broadcasting college,

592
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: or NFL or basketball or sports, or you're in engineering

593
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: or you're in marketing, or it does not matter. It's

594
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: always about people. It always is about people. And I

595
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: think you're one of the first ones that really understood

596
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: that there's certain people in this business. And I've talked

597
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: about this a bunch, and I always say it behind

598
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: your bath players and coaches. There's just certain people you

599
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: name and you go, if someone is a problem with them,

600
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: you're the problem. And it kind of gives you a light,

601
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: right Like if you have a problem with coach Matt,

602
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: then I know to stay away from me. Like you,

603
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: there's a light shining on you that you are not

604
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: the right person in here. And in all these years,

605
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: if you could find one person to say anything bad

606
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: about Dave McGinnis, and it will be the first person

607
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: that you find and the person you should run away

608
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: from because it's definitely not the kind of person you

609
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: want to be around. And that's all because everybody knows

610
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: who you are, from broadcasters to players to other coaches.

611
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: There's just not an in sentic bone in your body,

612
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: and everybody feels that when they're around you. But don't

613
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: you think, Laura, and again you know Amy could jump

614
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: in here, but but that the honesty is what's so important,

615
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: because that the professional sports world can be such a

616
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: superficial world. It's it's magnified, it's glorified, but at the

617
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: end result it's still it's still a people business. And

618
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: and to me, that's one of the most important things.

619
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: And there are some great coaches that have been able

620
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, Mike Dicka, his players even

621
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: for the way Mike Dicka was, his players loved him

622
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: because they knew that he knew who they were, you know,

623
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: and what they were going through. And the same way

624
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: with I mean, I worked for Jeff Fisher for fifteen

625
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: years and he was involved with his players, I mean,

626
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: And so those things are extremely extremely important, and it's

627
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: even more so nowadays. And as you said that to me,

628
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and that just that kind of dovetails into some of

629
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: the things that you are doing that I think are

630
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: so essential. I just have to say, this is the

631
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: most important lesson I ever learned from a player, and

632
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I teach us the direction you were going coach back

633
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: of the women that I coach. It was, you know,

634
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: probably before I met you. So I was even younger

635
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: and dumber. But I think I was in my first

636
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: job or my second job, and I called Charles Barkley

637
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: for something. And I knew Charles because I was in Montgomery, Alabama,

638
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: and Charles was from a town close by so he

639
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: would come through, and so I met him at a

640
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: young age. He was still playing then, So this is

641
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: how long ago it was. And I called him once

642
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: and he answered the phone and he said, well, well, well,

643
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Laura Oakman, what do you need? And I was like,

644
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: can a girl just call and say hello? And he said,

645
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: a girl, can you just never do? And he's like,

646
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make you feel bad. I just

647
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: know when you call you need something. So what do

648
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: you need? And that crushed me because who wants to

649
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: be that person that the phone rings and it's like Laura,

650
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: like what does she need? But in my mind I

651
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: was like, well why else would I call? I'm not

652
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: going to call or reach out and before texting, but

653
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to call and say great game, or

654
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: how was your weekend? So I just didn't call because

655
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: I thought I thought, well, that's not my place. But

656
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day and my side of

657
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: the world and amy side of the world, it's a

658
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: very one sided relationship if you allow it. It's us

659
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: always say I need, I need, I need, And at

660
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: some point if you don't find a way to have

661
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: a real relationship, then it's going to be a really

662
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: hard business and a lonely business to navigate because suddenly

663
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: you look around and go, I have a lot of

664
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: contexts and I have a lot of sources, but I

665
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: have no friends, and I have no relationships. And that's

666
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: on all of our sides. You know, of figuring that

667
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: out together, but it is. It's a relationship business, and

668
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I think we have to remind ourselves of that well.

669
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: And how do you utilize those relationships and really cultivate

670
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: them because on one hand, of course you're reaching out

671
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: to these people you do need something from them for

672
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: your business. On the other hand, you want to be

673
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: engaged in creating a meaningful relationship that matters, but you

674
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: want to keep it professional. There's a lot of lines

675
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: and it seems like you're balancing. You have done that

676
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: very well, and I know that over and over again.

677
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: You've said, I don't have sources, I have relationships with people.

678
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: How do you cultivate those and keep them in a

679
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: place where you're really working on that relationship and you're

680
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: not going to one extreme or the other. What I

681
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: always say is it's the most important part of my job,

682
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: and it is a job. So people understand. I legitimately

683
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: have Tuesday every week that's called relationship Tuesday, and that's

684
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: my day where I sit and I text, and I email,

685
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: and I call and I reach out with no agenda.

686
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm constantly making sure that I don't text every single

687
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: time that coach mac hears for me, it's what does

688
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: Laura need? And so I know I've implemented that. On

689
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Sunday's postgame, you know, you have a long day on

690
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: the field, we all do. And then I get in

691
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: my car and we have about an hour or an

692
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: hour and a half to get to the airport, and

693
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I look at every single score real quickly update and

694
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: I start texting everybody, you know, congratulations on the wind.

695
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about the loss, sending healing dot your way,

696
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about the injury. That's the second most

697
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: important part of my job, which is not asking a question,

698
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: not asking anyone to reach back, but constantly making sure

699
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: that I'm showing up when I don't need something, and

700
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: I have a big whiteboard. I don't do this anymore.

701
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: But when I was younger, it would say, all these

702
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: people every week, who did I reach out to? When

703
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: did I say I'd reach back out? Did they need

704
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: something from me? Because I wanted to make sure that

705
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't a one sided relationship. When I first got

706
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: into this and players and coaches would ask to go

707
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: to a golf tournament, I would say no because I

708
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: thought that was a line, and I was like, I

709
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: don't want to make it look like and friends, I

710
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: don't want to make it look like, as you said, Amy,

711
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: that you as a woman, there's some tough navigation. So

712
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I just said no to everything. And then at some

713
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: point finally had enough faith in myself and trust in

714
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: myself and understood relationships to go how can I keep

715
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: asking for things if I'm not taking part in this?

716
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: And so I guess they went from context to relationships.

717
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: When suddenly I got to know their foundations and their

718
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: wives and their mothers and their children and started being

719
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: a part of this community versus somebody on the outside

720
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: of the bubble doing stories. And that's when my life change.

721
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: That's just my job changed my life. And mac when

722
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: you see someone who's really cultivating those relationships as a coach,

723
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: someone on the other side, gosh, it must make you

724
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: feel so good to get a text message like that

725
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: that says, hey, congratulations on the wind. I don't need

726
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: anything from you. That's just it. Well, absolutely, but the

727
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: thing about it has to be genuine because you don't

728
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: have to. It comes across as they're not cultivating anything.

729
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: They are just generally, you know, involved in what's going on,

730
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: and you know you're not the only one. But the

731
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: fact that you know that they are paying attention, okay,

732
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: paying attention because in this business as a coach, you know,

733
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: especially as a head coach in this league, you've got

734
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: people pulling at you from all different directions, and most

735
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: of it you know they're pulling at you just like players,

736
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, for selfish reasons. And then once they're done

737
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: with you, they're done with you. But as I said,

738
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: there are certain people that you that you realize are

739
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: in it for the reason that they generally they are

740
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: generally interested in what you're doing, not for any ulterior

741
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: motive because guess what, their careers are going along just fine.

742
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: They're checking in with you and what that gives you

743
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: as a coach. Every now and then, you can pick

744
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: up the phone and say, hey, Laura, look, I know

745
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: you're going to be here in a couple of weeks.

746
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: Let me tell you a little bit about what's going

747
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: on here, you know, And I don't know if it'll

748
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: be the story when you get here, but I'm just

749
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: giving you a little background. And here's here's what I

750
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: can let you know when you get here, and if

751
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: it changes, I'll tell you that because that's important. I mean,

752
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: those types of things are very very important in this business.

753
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: And here's the thing that I think, and Laura, you

754
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: can help me with this. Back when the league was

755
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more i'd say mom and pop type league,

756
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: it was different, it really was. So you really have

757
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: to work now because it's a corporation. It's corporate, but

758
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: you can still do it. And as I said, the

759
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: seminars that you do which I've been to, you know, it.

760
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: We'll get into those, and we'll get into galvanized. I've

761
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: seen that work. But what happens is is it's not

762
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: just it's not something that you're doing for the fluff

763
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: of it. You're telling them real issues that will come

764
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: up and how to navigate it, because being a female

765
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: in this business is not easy. Now the inclusion of

766
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: it is getting better and better, and I love it.

767
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. I mean I was so happy

768
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: for Low Locust when they won down there at Tampa Bay.

769
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: I know Low you know very well. She was the

770
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: assistant defensive line coach at the Birmingham Iron. I used

771
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: to drive over there to watch their games, you know.

772
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: And then when she got that chance to go, you

773
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: know with bea and then plus just you know, to

774
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: win it. Those types of things matter. I mean they really,

775
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: they really do matter, and not not because she's a female,

776
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: but because she's thirty years chasing a dream and those

777
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: things are extremely important. And now for her to be

778
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: able to be on that stage, I mean, you know,

779
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's just so so important that

780
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: people like yourself that have a platform now because I mean,

781
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, let's admit it, you're a big deal now,

782
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: but you hadn't work. You had to work to be

783
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: a big deal and so and the way that you

784
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: did it. But I've as I said, we'll talk about

785
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: your seminars, we'll talk about Galvin eyes, but the way

786
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: you portray it and the way you get it across

787
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, although I think those those those those females

788
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: that are entering into it, they say, whoa, this is

789
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: a job, this is work, and it's you know, it's

790
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: not all about just you know, the bright lights and

791
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: everything else that goes on because it is a business.

792
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: It's a business, but it doesn't have to be an

793
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: impersonal business. And I hope this is one of the

794
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: moost important things I can say to Amy right now,

795
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: because I know the dream was checking boxes. Right. I

796
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: want to do this, I want to do I want

797
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: to cover Super Bowl, I want to host Olympics. I

798
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: want to work for a network. Check check And all

799
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden you check boxes and you realize how

800
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: lonely that can be, because everything about us is the job.

801
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: Is the job is the boxes, the box. And I

802
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: just know that at some point you really do look

803
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: around at a lot of check boxes, at a lot

804
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: of check boxes, and go what else is there. I've

805
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: been doing sidelines for a long time, But if I

806
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: look at my Sunday, I work just as hard as

807
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: my play by play partner. I work just as hard

808
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: as my analysts. We're watching the same film, we're reading

809
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: the same articles, wearing the same interviews and conversations, and

810
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm probably having more conversations with more players and coaches.

811
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: And yet if you boil down my Sunday, maybe I

812
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: have two and a half minutes. If you put down

813
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: like all of my stuff, and what happens is eventually

814
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: you leave Sunday and your guys feel great. They've had

815
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: three hours to pontificate and to show off their knowledge

816
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: and to show how awesome they are. When you walk

817
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: into your car with a notebook of stories that never

818
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: made air and all your opinions and all your insight

819
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: and all these nuggets and nothing made air, and you

820
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: can feel like you have no value, and you can

821
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: have no worth. And at some point, as a woman,

822
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: at least on the sidelines, I had to figure out

823
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: what's my value? What's my worth? Because it cannot be

824
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes on a Sunday. That took

825
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: me a long time. I hope Amy figures that out

826
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: a whole lot younger than I did. That's why we

827
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: started this podcast, because I had more to say. I

828
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: love it like that makes me want to cry. I

829
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: love that so much, one hundred percent. That's I love that.

830
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: I would have never had the confidence to use my

831
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: voice as you're doing at your age. You have a

832
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: great thing. Now, just look what's going on in the league. Look,

833
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: I mean look right here at the Tennessee tits Amy

834
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: Adams Strunk, I mean, one of the absolute best. I mean,

835
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: when I came back from LA and I came here

836
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: and met her, you know, when I was going to

837
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: start doing the broadcast here, I came away from that

838
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: first meeting going, whoa. I've been in the league a

839
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: long time. I know good from bad real quick. I mean,

840
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: that is excellent. Look at she lafourt Hamp, what's going

841
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: on there at Detroit, how much she's involved. Look at

842
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Kimp Pagudo. To me, those things are extremely extremely important,

843
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: and our league is better for that. It is better

844
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: for that in my humble opinion. Now, Laura, we have

845
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: to talk about Galvanize. We've kind of alluded to it,

846
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: and it is so much bigger than everything that we've

847
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: alluded to. Give me a minute to just kind of

848
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: break down galvanize what it is and why it's so important.

849
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: People always think galvanize is about being better on camera,

850
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: because originally how the genesis of galvanize was. I started

851
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: seeing all these young women getting thrown into these awesome opportunities.

852
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: But I thought, that's fast, that's fast, and that's hard,

853
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, and high up I was watching them struggle,

854
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: and I knew that they weren't struggling on a Sunday

855
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: or on a Saturday. I knew they were going to

856
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: struggle for years. When you all of a sudden walk

857
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: with a coach at halftime, and I've had coaches say this,

858
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: They said, Hey, I was with an adorable young girl

859
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: at halftime, and I was trying to help, but I

860
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't know what she was talking about. And when I

861
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: tried to tell her something so I could help her,

862
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I knew she didn't know what I was talking about.

863
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: And that was told to me when I was twenty seven.

864
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: I would have been very judgmental of the women and

865
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: been like, well, they don't belong and why are they here?

866
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: But I was luckily old enough and motherly enough to go.

867
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: These women are being crushed, not on a Sunday, but

868
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: their confidence is now crushed. And so I was very

869
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: thankful that I got my start in Montgomery, Alabama and

870
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: made my mistakes small and Chadmooga, Tennessee. I had to

871
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: work my way up to get to the network level,

872
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: and I was watching so many young women not get

873
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: that trajectory, and so I knew I couldn't help change that,

874
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: but I did think, well, I probably could help them

875
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: get ready for the opportunity. And so Galvin I started

876
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: about twelve years ago, and I just thought, how can

877
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I help? And I didn't know anything more than that.

878
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't a company, it wasn't a name, it wasn't anything.

879
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: But it took about four months to find twenty women

880
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: who were like, sure, I'll be a part of it.

881
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: And then you know, twelve years later, about twenty five

882
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: hundred women later, it's turned into it just an incredible

883
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: network of women and something I would have killed for,

884
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: which was just a group of women to help me

885
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: navigate all of this going through it. There's no black

886
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: and white in this business. It's all gray. And I

887
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: didn't have a single woman who helped me through that.

888
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have a woman mentor. I didn't have friends

889
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: who were doing this business, so I peers. I didn't

890
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: have friends, and I just thought, how how can I

891
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: get them this? And it's grown not just in size,

892
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: but we have boot camps and workshops now that are

893
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: for women, not on camera. We have everybody behind the scenes.

894
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: We have women who are agents and marketing and pr

895
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: and we're from twenty years old to forty. So it's

896
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: just it's just this incredible group of women who are

897
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: looking for a network of other women to support, to

898
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: be supported by. And it's been a life changer. I

899
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: would have killed for it at your age, Amy, But

900
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I also know that I probably if I had it,

901
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have created it because I didn't know the

902
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: importance and the need of it. So I guess I

903
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: probably wasn't supposed to have it. And now I just

904
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: know watching these young women and older women but succeed

905
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: and grow and struggle has grown my heart in sizes

906
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know. My heart couldn't grow because I don't

907
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: have children, so I didn't understand what it was like

908
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: to be a mother. And now I feel like I'm

909
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: a mother to a couple thousand women and feel like

910
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: every day I'm like, I didn't know I could be

911
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: any prouder than I've already thought I would be. But

912
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been magical. It's been absolutely magical. Let

913
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: me interject here. I mean, you know when we went

914
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: to la you know, Laura, of course, you know, ask

915
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher and myself if she could you know, bring

916
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, a group of her Galvinized people to training camp.

917
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: You know, it was our first year out there. Of

918
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: course it was a big deal everybody. And of course,

919
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, you're you know, told me that that Laura.

920
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: I said, oh absolutely, let's do this fish And when

921
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: she showed up and you know, and the things that

922
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: that she was imparting to them, I mean, they weren't

923
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: just at practice just to be you know, being able

924
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: to stand inside the ropes and to say to all

925
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: the people around, look at us were inside the ropes.

926
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: They were actually digging in and learning something about what

927
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: really makes this thing work. And then Jeff talked to

928
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: the group, I talked to the group, but you could

929
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: tell that they were all invested, and they weren't invested

930
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: at a surface level. They were invested at a level

931
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: like I am getting a leg up here and I'm

932
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: going to take full advantage of it. I was so impressed,

933
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: so impressed with it, and I can see white worked

934
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: and you will forever, forever be one of the greatest

935
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: gifts to galvanize because that was still young and it

936
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: was galvanized infancy, but it was galvanizes exactly how you

937
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: were with the women. We talk so little about being

938
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: on camera. We talk so little about the actual interview.

939
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: We practice small talk. Well, you know, if that you're

940
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden walking up to a coach and

941
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: you're twenty two years old and you're intimidated and you're scared,

942
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: how do you connect? How do you let Coach Mac

943
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: know that I might be twenty three years old, but

944
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: you can trust me in this conversation if it's on

945
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: camera or imprint and follow me or you're producing this.

946
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: And Coach Mac talked to them like they were professionals,

947
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: not like they were young girls, you know, and like

948
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: how cute there's a bunch of girls at practice, But

949
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: like that he gave them the imparted the wisdom that

950
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: he imparts on everyone who's in his orbit, which was invaluable.

951
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: But it's all the things I would have killed to know.

952
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: I would have I didn't need to get coached on

953
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: being on camera because I was going to get better

954
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: on camera with reps and I was going to get

955
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: better with experience, and that's going to happen. But the

956
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: things that will start your growth about your confidence, and

957
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: about relationships and about how to build them, about how

958
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: to believe in yourself, how to empower other women when

959
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: you've been told that's your competition. All those things to

960
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: be able to sit and talk about that's galvanized and

961
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: being better on camera or being better you know, at

962
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: your job is so miniscule to me. I think the

963
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: first couple of boot camps, I didn't get that, and

964
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: I focused a lot on what you do, and now

965
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever talk about what you do.

966
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: It's all who you are. Same with athletes, same with coaches.

967
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: And now, by the way, coach Mack knows this. I

968
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: have clients, you know. I do a lot of advising

969
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: with communications. I have had coaches, and I work with

970
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: almost two hundred of the top professional women hockey players

971
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: in the world. So I'm in a different world now

972
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: where I'm trusted in a different way with these incredible people.

973
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. We don't talk about their job,

974
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: We talk about who they are, and that doesn't matter

975
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: what you do for a job. If you tap into that,

976
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: then it goes right back to what Coach Mac's talking about,

977
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: is the authenticity and the truth of who you are,

978
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: and that's how you build relationships and trusts. Gosh, Laura,

979
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: I could talk to you forever. I know we've got

980
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: to let you go. You're the busiest woman in all

981
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: of sports. But before you go, I want to be

982
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: sure to ask you what advice you might have, not

983
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: even just for girls who want to get into this industry,

984
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: but anyone who wants to have some sort of role

985
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: in sports, whether it be in media or otherwise, what

986
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: advice would you give to them? I think the first

987
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: thing is I know, for years and years I was

988
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: told that a girl talking sports was crazy, and so

989
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: that was in my head for a long time, and

990
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: everyone would say, what's your plan B, what's your plan B?

991
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: And I would always say, my plan B is to

992
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: make sure my Plan A is working. And after I've

993
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: proved that a girl talking sports wasn't crazy. The narrative

994
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: change too. Okay, that's great. You can talk sports, but

995
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: you better do it fast because you can't age on camera.

996
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: So you better have another plan in place, because once

997
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: you hit forty, everyone's going to tell you that you've

998
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: aged out of this business. That's not what this business wants.

999
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: So I think for so long in my career, I

1000
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: feared a lot of things, and I believed a lot

1001
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: of things that people told me. And that when you're

1002
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: told that constantly, your voice starts sounding like all their voices,

1003
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: and so you start telling yourself you don't belong, or

1004
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: better of a plan B, you don't belong. And I

1005
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing I try to impart, I love

1006
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: that you said not just young girls and young women,

1007
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: this is young boys and young men. But to make

1008
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: sure your voice is the loudest. Because this business is tough,

1009
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what side of it. You will

1010
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: be told how competitive it is. You will be told

1011
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: there is no room for you. You will be told

1012
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: a million reasons why you won't belong or you can't belong.

1013
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing that changed my

1014
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: trajectory and changed my life was when my voice started saying,

1015
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: you're good at this, you belong here, you know, keep

1016
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: crushing it, You're kicking ass. And suddenly all those other

1017
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: voices just weren't as important anymore, and then suddenly were

1018
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: an important period. So I think that I hadn't learned

1019
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: that untill four. So I sometimes say, here's my advice

1020
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: to young women or young men, and then I think,

1021
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what, this is probably for all of us,

1022
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: because I think at different stages that we're all in

1023
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: our voices change, and I just know that the voice

1024
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: in my head has never been more supportive and has

1025
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: never been more empowering, and I know that's changed my life,

1026
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: not just my job. So that's probably my favorite thing

1027
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: is when I watch these young women in Galvanize, I

1028
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: see their voices literally change, and I watch how they

1029
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden go from doubting themselves to believing

1030
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: in themselves and then believing in each other. And that's

1031
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: where the magic is, that's where the growth is, and

1032
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: that's my favorite thing to watch. People grab a hold

1033
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 1: of Laura Oakman. I cannot thank you enough for being

1034
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: on the show with us today. This has been such

1035
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: a blast. You have to come back sometime soon do

1036
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: this with us again weekly, yes, like yes, monthly. But

1037
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: you guys, listen, I would have already come into this knowing.

1038
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: I know, any conversation with Coach Mac is a meaningful

1039
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: one and is a purposeful one and is a wonderful one.

1040
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: But my sister, you are outstanding. And sometimes when you're

1041
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: in the middle of two people who know each other

1042
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: and start a conversation and it's like goes to a sideline,

1043
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: feeling right like, wait a minute, I had twenty five

1044
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: questions and they monopolized it and I asked two. But

1045
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: it takes a really good point guard to make sure

1046
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: that everybody's involved and to get this whole flow going.

1047
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: So you are magnificent. So thank you for being such

1048
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: a great point guard and Coach Mac, I can do

1049
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: this with you every day. You're the best, and you

1050
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: know that you're the best. But yes, because my voice

1051
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: tells me that I am the best, like your voice

1052
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: tells you that you are the best. Well, and again

1053
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: you know you know the feelings mutual. I mean, it

1054
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: makes me so happy at a game to be able

1055
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: because to lean out of the press box before the

1056
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: game and yell at you down there on the sideline.

1057
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: It just makes me feel so happy to be able

1058
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: to do that and connect with you. And we need

1059
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: to get together in nash Vegas soon with Amy Wells,

1060
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: with Ashley Earl, with you with your husband at the Standard.

1061
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: We need to do that. Yes, yes, yes, confirmed and

1062
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: booked and if we can all seek our dogs and

1063
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: even better, I would love that too. Mac. She fires

1064
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: me up. She just gets me going. I'm so excited. Well,

1065
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: let me tell you why she gets it. She just

1066
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: gets it, she really does. And I count myself very

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00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: fortunate to have had her friendship for a long time

1068
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: in this league. But she is legitimate, really legit. You

1069
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: know who else gets it? Farm Bureau Health Plans. Don't

1070
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: get sacked by the high cost of healthcare. Make farm

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00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: Bureau health Plans your first line of protection. They've been

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00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: protecting Tennesseeans since nineteen forty seven. Randy Wilmore Farm Bureau

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00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Health Plans. Jane Anne. Jane Anne, that does our bubble heads.

1074
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: Randy Wilmore was the genesis of the Bubbleheads. Jane Anne

1075
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: is really the power behind it. Rita Delosure. I mean

1076
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: there's so many I've got so many good friends now

1077
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: at Farm Bureau health plans. I mean, and that's a

1078
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: really good place to have friends. It is a really

1079
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: good place to have friends. I mean, shoot, anybody who

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00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: can help you with your healthcare and everything else and

1081
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: get you some bubbleheads of yourself. What more could you

1082
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: want in a friend? I mean, plus, I like going

1083
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: down to Columbia, Tennessee. It's really cool down there, and

1084
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: it's cool. It's really cool. So anyway, so Mac, do

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: you think we should do another bubblehead giveaway? Yes? Do

1086
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: you think we should do that? Are you feeling giveaway? Yes?

1087
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: I mean after a big win like that, Yes, yep,

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00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I think we should too. I think we should give

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00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: away a coach Mac bobblehead, a coach Mac bobblehead. And

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00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that the word that we should use is playmaker.

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh I love it. That's perfect. This is our code word.

1092
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: Head over to Instagram. You will see the post. I'll

1093
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: say something along the lines of this is it so

1094
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: that you know where to post the code word. Code

1095
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: word is playmaker. I'll try and make it idiot proof.

1096
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: I'll do my best. Please give away a bubblehead coach Mac.

1097
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: We gave a hit bubble head Coach back bubble Head Amy.

1098
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: Last time right we did. That was the first one

1099
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: that was a big deal. I want to keep the

1100
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: people coming back from more. Okay, good? Can you give

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00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: everything to them all in one They get bubblehead Coach

1102
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: Mac this week and then the next time we'll be

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00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: bubblehead coach Amy. There you go, and I like to

1104
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: be coach Amy. I love that all right. So Instagram

1105
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: is where you will put that. Playmaker is the code word.

1106
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Hope you guys win a coach Mac bobblehead. It's the

1107
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: hottest gift in town right now. The holiday season is

1108
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: just around the corner. Let's go, Mac. Are you fired

1109
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: up for the Chiefs? Not yet? Too early? You keep

1110
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: your powder drive. You're trying. You're telling me to turn

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00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: the page. I turn the page in the course of

1112
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: this show you're talking about you're talking about forty plus

1113
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: year coach. I know when you're supposed to get ready

1114
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to prepare, but you don't start getting

1115
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: ready too early. You burn yourself out. You ever run

1116
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: track in your life? Okay, Well, let me just say this,

1117
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: if you give me, if you if you ever entering

1118
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: that's I'm not saying. If you ever ran track in

1119
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: your life. The first thing they tell you to track

1120
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: meat is is just stay as calm as possible before

1121
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: the gun goes off, because your adrenaline goes through your

1122
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: body and it uses up all your energy. Keep your

1123
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: powder dry. All right, Well, I'm fired up anyway, So

1124
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys on Sunday and I will still

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00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of energy. Titans take on the Kansas

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00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: City Chiefs this Sunday at Nissan Stadium. To kick off

1127
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: is at noon. You don't want to miss it. If

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00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: you guys have tickets, come on out and hang out

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00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: with us. It's going to be so fun for Coach Mac.

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Speaker 1: I'm Titans Amy, Amy Wells. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Titans Amy and Coach Mac podcast