1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Here we go our number two on a Wednesday, one 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: hour from now, one hour from now, first fifteen minutes 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: of the final hour. I am going to do my 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: first round mock draft. If I was a general manager 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: of each team, what would I do? We did it 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: last year, we had a couple of hits. This obviously 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza going to the Raiders number one, so we're 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: one for one. But what would I do? Based on 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: need ownership? There has been a big trade this morning 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Los Angele Angelis Rams had two 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: first round picks. I believe if it was a great 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: quarterback draft, they'd take one with the second pick and 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: put them on the shelf for two years behind Matt Stafford. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: It's not so. What the Rams are telling you is 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: we are going for it and we're going to re 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: sign Matt Stafford and we're giving up a first, a fifth, 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: a sixth, and a third next year. So that tells 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: me they're going to sign Matt Stafford to a two 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: year deal. Trent McDuffie, who is a pro bowler excellent, 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: could be even better with the Rams because they have 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: a more consistent pass rush. And the Rams have drafted 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: defense so well, but they've never held corner in terribly 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: high regard. They really build their front so and there's 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: a couple of nice first round corners, one out of LSU, 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: really good player, and you know they may not want 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: to take a risk on that. They're going to keep 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: their first pick in the first round, they're given up 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: the second, and the Chiefs are basically saying Patrick Mahomes 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: just sent out a tweet, damn, because McDuffie, after Mahomes, 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: is probably their best player. But Brett Veatz, the Chiefs 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: GM is telling you, listen, we're getting old. And then 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: our young guys aren't great, they're good. So now they've 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: got two firsts. I think they're going to go get 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: a tackle, and I think they're going to try to 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: get a corner, and then I think they have to 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: supplement their front seven, and Chris Jones had a down year. 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: So I think what Kansas City's doing is smart. We've 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: said this. You start paying Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick 46 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes if you don't have a quarterback or a team 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: friendly deal, this is what happens. You have to let 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: go of great players. So the Rams, who I think 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: have a much better roster this morning than the Chiefs, 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: are adding an element to it, and the Chiefs are 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a rebuild with Andy Reid Mahomes, but 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: right now in their division, I don't think they have 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the roster of Denver, and I'm not sure they have 54 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the roster of the Chargers. Well, we're getting ready for March. 55 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Saint John's has split with Yukon. They came back from 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: twelve down to beat Georgetown last night. They're twenty four 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: and six and they're legendary coach thirty eight years coaching basketball. 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Rick Mattino is now joining US live and uh, last time. 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: This is very fun because you know we were talking 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: about this a second ago. You know, they want to 61 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: expand the tournament and I'm like, it used to be 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: sixty four. It started on Thursday. I could fill out 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: my bracket. It was easy. And then they've got the 64 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: first four and it screws me up a little bit. 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know about these teams. I like the 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: certain sanctity of like the I'm for inclusion, but I 67 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: think sixty four is a big, fat number and sixty 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: eight to big number. What is your general take on 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: expanding it even further? 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: Well, I guess it would come down to what's the 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: reason for expansion. Is it to make sure a if 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: a Saint Louis is undefeated and people are somehow thinking 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: of not putting them in the tournament if they get 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: knocked out of their bracket. I think that's as you know, 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: any team that goes undefeated, I don't care what level 76 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: you're at, you deserve an NCAA bid. You got to 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: go on the road in front of a hostile crowd 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: every single night. And whoever may be, Miami of Ohio 79 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: is a nothing exim MIAI of Ohio I think is undefeated. 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: They without question deserve a bit if they go undefeated. 81 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: Right, So, I think last time I had you on, 82 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: we talked about this. I think nil is great for 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: college basketball, and I told Adam Silver when he was 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: on this show. Stop demonizing college basketball. The coaching's better, 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: the swag, the nutrition, they get paid now. And the 86 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: other thing is they have to play in environments that 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you don't get in the G League. I mean, you're 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: playing in Madison Square Garden, you're playing it in Kansas. 89 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: These are NBA level intensity. And I'll tell you last 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: year's draft was great. I mean it's a mix. I 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: didn't know conkinent, but was that good? I knew Cooper 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Flag was good. This draft is supposed to be legendary. 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Are you noticing in the last two or three years 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: what the Nile has done, especially teams like you at 95 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the top? Rick I turned on Michigan Illinois Friday. Michigan 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: is stacked. It looks like the top ten to fifteen 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: teams of which you're part of them are noticeably deeper 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: than five years ago. Right, that feels like that? 99 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: Well, personally, the Florign influence with the NBA as well 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: as college. So if you're a great I coached in 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: the Ponatanaikos in the EuroLeague, and if you're a basketball 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: player aspiring to go to the EuroLeague because the NBA 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 3: is not right in your reach as a foreign player, 104 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: you'd rather go to college. It pays almost twice more 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: than the EuroLeague unless you are the first and second 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: best player on the EuroLeague team. The rest of the 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: ROSTA you could go to college and get paid a 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: lot more money. So college basketball has elevated to a 109 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: level of great play right now. You look at Duke, 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: you look at Arizona, you look at Michigan. Those are 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: three basketball teams that I look at that can win 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: a national championship. 113 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: Because of their incredible talent. 114 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 3: Then you have the Connecticuts, the Illinois and people like 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: that that are very very deep, very well coached, and 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: they could win a national championship. 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: So it's a lot of fun. 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: I've never seen college basketball in the last two years 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: this strong. I've been coaching fifty some odd years. But 120 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: it would have to go back to the Kareem days, 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: the Walton days, where everybody stayed in school. 122 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I remember though Bill Walton was arguably the 123 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: best college basketball player of all time, went to Portland, 124 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: won a title with the Blazers, and Jack Ramsey, the 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: you know European players, the Tony Kukoch era. Everybody always 126 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: said they're soft. They're skilled, but they're soft. Well, now 127 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: you got they're not. Jokic is bullying people, Lucas screaming 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: at the officials. Giannis is a physical player. What do 129 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: you think led because and now you're facing European players regularly, 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: what do you think led to? 131 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 5: You know? 132 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: And I think some of it was fair more finesse 133 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: European players. They're now very physical. What changed over there? 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, European basketball players because they passed, they cut, They 135 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: really understand how to play ball. Movement's great. I watched 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: the game and I'm not going to say the team 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: the other night. It's the first time I said I 138 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: can't watch this anymore. It was a West Coast team 139 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: in the pros and it was just back the man in, 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: back them in in, take a fadeaway jump shot, get 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: beat in transition, and I said, I can't watch any 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: more of this. There was no ball movement, no player 143 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: movement whatsoever. And in the Europeans they used the ball movement. 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: Play a movement, go to the high posts as the center, 145 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: find the back door cutter, set screens pop out. 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: The ability to shoot the three. 147 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: For for the foreign players on my team, I have 148 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: a player from Austria, Sweden, Nigeria, Ghana, Portugal, Greece. So 149 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: it's the foreign influences is here to stay. But it 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: makes the game so much better because they really understand 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: how to play. Now most of them defensively can't guard me, 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: but on the offense they're great. 153 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have to play against older men. I 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: mean to be honest with you. So it's now now 155 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr has lamented the AAU and you know we've 156 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: had some, you know, domestic players John Morant Zion who 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: were gifted but haven't kind of panned out. Although this 158 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: year's draft it looks like the domestic players are crushing, 159 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: is there? You know? When Kerr bangs on AAU basketball, 160 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just look at your roster. It's full of 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: European and global players. How is the domestic product to 162 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you right now? 163 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: Well, the easiest thing to do is blame the AAU system, 164 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: and I'm not one of those people that do that. 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: I would rather. 166 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: Blame parents than I would AAU. 167 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: I think parents today are way too involved in their 168 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 3: children's careers as far as growing up. The parents need 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: to just sit in the stands, enjoy the game and 170 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: let the kids develop and develop a love for the game. 171 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: Twenty years ago, I never dealt with parents. 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm very lucky. 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: I've got parents that are disciplinarians. They get after their kids. 174 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: But the ones that aren't hurt much more than aau. 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: They want to Okay, let's let's go to a different 176 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: school next year, because you can make three hundred thousand more. 177 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: Now, let's grind it out where you're at and. 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Play for tom Izzo and play for this person, and 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: play for this guy, because he's going to make you 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: a terrific basketball player with discipline and character. 181 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, Rick, it's pretty amazing. You've got players from 182 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: several continents, and I'm sure with some there can be 183 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: semi language barriers. And yet enough, if you watch Saint 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: John's play defense is all about communication and effort and 185 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: your team's play defense. How do you it's kind of 186 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. How do you with some sometimes language barriers. 187 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: And you know, you got older players, younger players. This 188 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: guy's from Ghana, this guy can be from Chicago. How 189 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: do you make it? How do you tie the string 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: and make it work? 191 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 192 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: One week link kills your defense. I have a young 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: man lithetis he's Greek. I can't say his last name 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: by colem Lefty, and I said, lefty held they look 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: do me a favor. Communicate defensively. That's the keto on defense. 196 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: Tell them to down it, tell them to switch it. 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: Tell them bring them my way so we can switch it. 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: I said, just talk and communicate defensively. I don't care 199 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: if you do it in Greek. Open your mouth up 200 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: and talk defensively. And that's the biggest problem I have 201 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: with the European basketball players. They don't verbally communicate as much. 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're a couple of weeks away from March Madness. 203 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: The old cliche is it's guard play, and you know 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: it's years ago. I went back and I looked at 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: the numbers. You don't necessarily have to be playing great 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: going into the Tournament's a little bit of a myth. 207 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: We've seen teams that cool off. I remember that Florida 208 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: Gator Billy Donovan team, the one back to backs. They 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: lost the game late. If I recall, they flew through 210 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: the tournament fuzzy memory. But if I recall that's what happened. 211 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: You tell me last night, you almost lose. You come 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: back to Georgetown. Should I look if a guy is 213 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: filling out a bracket, does it to you? Guard plays essential? 214 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: What is something in the tournament that guys like me 215 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: don't discuss? But you're always at sneaky important. 216 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing you have to look at his 217 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: free throw percentage is always going to come down to 218 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: making your free throws at the end of a game. 219 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: And godplay is the second most important thing. When you 220 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: look at say Florida right now. Florida right now is 221 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: a team middle of the season because of all the 222 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: new players in the back court, they weren't playing great. 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 3: Now they are and you have to look at Florida 224 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: as one of the favorites to repeat as national champions 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: because their front court is so good and now the 226 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: backcourt has come on. So when you look at Florida, Arizona, 227 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: Michigan and Duke and teams of that caliber, you see 228 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: they have great god play and they can make their 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: free throws. If you have a team that doesn't make 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: free throws, they can't win six games, can't because it's 231 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: going to come down to free throws in about forty 232 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 3: to fifty percent of the games. 233 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know a lot of guys Roy Williams coach 234 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: k Jay Wright. They're like, yeah, I'm done, I did it, 235 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: And you're like, no, I'm going to go to Saint John's. 236 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go play at Maddison. I think you've 237 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: had like ten or eleven games at the MSG. You 238 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: have great energy. Still, you're smiling, you're happy. Do you 239 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: think some of your ability to remain viable is the 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: fact that you're not a you don't you have an 241 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: interesting balance. I don't see a lot of rigidity, but 242 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I do see you're demanding. You're demanding without rigidity, and 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it's part of your personality. I mean, it's 244 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: why have you lasted this long and why do you 245 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: still have great energy? 246 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: Well? 247 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: I think I took two years off of coaching, didn't 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: think I was going to get back in the game, 249 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: and wound up going upon it Tonicos in Greece and 250 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: had a blast doing that. I think being adaptable is key. 251 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm coaching fifty years now. I met with one of 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: my players, Joe Snsen, on the other day and I said, listen, Joe, 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: I maybe seventy three, but I act like I'm forty three. 254 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: I've heard every story from every player. It is nothing 255 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: you can tell me that I haven't heard. I said, 256 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 3: so I have you got a problem. If you want 257 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: to get something off your chest, tell me I'm going 258 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: to act like a forty three year old for you. 259 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: So you know, I think I can adjust to just 260 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: about anything, because you have to adjust today. You see 261 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: it all the time in the game. I've seen the 262 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 3: game change from Bobby Knight total motion to a triangle 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: offense that we Phil Jackson in the NBA look at. 264 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: Everybody would copy the triangle offense. Now it's big men 265 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: stepping away from the basket and shooting threes, playing five out. 266 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: So it's all changed. 267 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: But you have to change with the times because it's 268 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: all different, no different than the NFL. 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: The way the NFL game is played. 270 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: He used to be running back off tackle, Jim Brown 271 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: running off tackle and taking people with him. And now 272 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: it's wide outs more than anything else. So all the 273 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: sports change. The coaches that don't want to change get out. 274 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: And I wasn't ready to get out because as they 275 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: took two years off and my golf. 276 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: Wasn't very good. 277 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: Some of the things going to the racetrack, I was 278 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: losing too much money so I like to keep the 279 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: money in my pocket and coach basketball. 280 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: Were you betting the ponies in Greece by. 281 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: The way, No, No, this was in Miami. 282 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: I was going to once or twice a week to 283 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: Gulf Stream and giving my deposit to them to keep 284 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: the economy moving. 285 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: Beautiful part of Florida. By the way. Rick has always 286 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure, great stuff. Good luck to Saint John's 287 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: thanks Colin. 288 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: Good speaking with you all right. 289 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Always entertaining. I mean, he's just got great energy. It's like, 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: you can see why I can recruit. He's got great energy. 291 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I love he's got players from Ghana, overseas, He's got 292 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: players from here. That's fun. 293 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 6: J Mack. 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Got to hit your free throws, cross the t's, dot 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the eyes and hit your free throm. You know, you 296 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: glean any information for your tournament. 297 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to fade his gambling ponies picks and 298 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 7: become mixed, extremely wealthy. I will say your port about 299 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 7: the energy. I wanted to look up his age, seventy 300 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 7: three years old. That's impressive. You know a lot of 301 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 7: our elected officials they get the late seventies and it's like, 302 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 7: oh boy, here we go. This guy at seventy three. 303 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: He still got it now. Saint John's not a bad 304 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 7: team this year. 305 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: No, it's not bad at all. They split with Yukon. Indeed, 306 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: there you go. We got a lot of stuff. Oh, 307 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I got top of next hour, not messing around. Very 308 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: excited for this my mock draft. I fired up. I'm 309 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw you a curveball at the number two picked 310 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: and that makes a lot of sense. Don't scoff the 311 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: number two years. Don't if you believe what you're reading 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: on these mock drafts. I'll tell you what the Jets 313 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: are going to do and what they should do. That's 314 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: coming up. 315 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: One more Heard. 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I'm all fired up. 330 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you first fifteen teams in the NFL 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: draft in late April. I'm giving you my mock draft, 332 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: which is, if I was a general manager, who would 333 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: I pick based on need function dysfunction? Uh, we've had 334 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: a trade this morning, Rams giving up four picks, including 335 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: a first rounder this year and a third rounder next year, 336 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: for elite corner Trent McDuffie. They've drafted so well on defense, 337 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: they're not paying They're spending most of their money on offense, 338 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: not def so now they take a swing on the 339 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: defensive side. Here is j Mack with the news. 340 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 4: No, no, this is. 341 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 7: The Herdline news Listen. This month is just gonna be 342 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 7: so good, Colin. This NFL stuff is coming fast and furious. 343 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 7: How about this one. It sounds like Dallas Goddard's time 344 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 7: in Philadelphia is done. I know all the hype has 345 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 7: been around AJ Brown. Gottard had eleven touchdowns last year. Yeah, 346 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 7: he was awesome in the red zone. They do that 347 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 7: little shovel misdirection stuff, and Godard had a great year. 348 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 7: Sounds like he's done that. To me, is a shocker 349 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 7: expected to hit free agency. But instantly the Philadelphia media 350 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 7: is saying, don't worry, They've got their eyes on wait 351 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 7: for it, David and Joku, the tight end from the 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns, who is a really good athlete, stretched the 353 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 7: field kind of guy. I mean, listen, trading Goddard for Njoku, 354 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: I don't think that's a loss at all. 355 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Obviously they're both really good. 356 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both. 357 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 7: They're not like eleading that McBride upper crust, but they're 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 7: rid in the next tier, maybe tier three. Listen, I 359 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 7: think that's a good move. And Joku three seasons has 360 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 7: fifteen touchdowns sixteen hundred yards. Goddard has about the exact 361 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 7: same production in that time in terms of yards and touchdowns. 362 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 7: So I think this would be a good trade. Now, 363 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 7: you can't lose Goddard and not replace him. Kal Katara, 364 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 7: the backup tight end, is fine, but he's no starter. 365 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 7: Philadelphia is very interesting, Colin. It almost feels like it's 366 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 7: so quiet. 367 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: Now. 368 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 7: You know, we're manufacturing this aj brown stuff every day, 369 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 7: there's nothing there. Something's going on. I don't know what 370 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 7: it is, but I feel like Philly, we're gonna hear 371 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 7: like something big here in the coming week. 372 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Howie Roseman in terms of in league 373 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: personnel is the trade GM. There's John Snyder drafts better. 374 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman makes more deals and so it wouldn't surprise me. 375 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 7: And let me remind everybody, there was zero, zero chatter 376 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 7: about Trent mcduffy getting traded to the Rams and then 377 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 7: it happened. So the stuff the media is on maybe 378 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 7: not happening. That's behind the scenes. The media doesn't have that. 379 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 7: All right, Let's move on to the next one colin. 380 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 7: That's the Indianapolis Colts, who we usually don't talk about 381 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 7: a lot, but they're fascinating with this Daniel Jones situation unfolding. 382 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 7: Sounds like they're going to transition tag him, which is interesting. Essentially, 383 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 7: they're letting him go to market and get a deal 384 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 7: to see if another team can offer him, then the 385 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 7: Colts can match that. If nobody offers him, and who's 386 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 7: offering him coming off an achilles, he's going to miss 387 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 7: at least half the season, right because running was one 388 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 7: of his strengths. 389 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: Then nobody offers him. 390 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 7: They just sign him for thirty seven mil on a 391 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: one year deal, which I think is fine. Yeah, I 392 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 7: think it's not a huge win for the Colts. 393 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: That mid thirties number for Daniel Jones is a very 394 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: reasonable number. 395 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 7: And I'm sure Jones is ticked off because he wanted 396 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 7: some more security. But sorry, man, that is the breaks 397 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 7: you got injured. 398 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: What could we do. 399 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 7: We're not giving you a multi year deal, but if 400 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 7: you don't come back from the achillan. 401 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I think he's been more than fairly compensated for his production. 402 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: I thought he was very good at the beginning of 403 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: last year. He's a big, strong, sturdy kid who can move. 404 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine. I think that if the numbers 405 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: thirty six thirty seven, that's where it should be. You 406 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: can win games that doesn't, you know, choke you out 407 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: in other players. So yeah, I like that. 408 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 7: And if we remember a couple other quarterbacks coming off achilles, 409 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 7: I think Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, they did not look 410 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 7: good the year coming back. Now they're obviously older. But Jones' 411 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 7: mobility is a huge strength and I'm just not optimistic 412 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 7: that he comes back strong. It's almost more interesting. Do 413 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 7: the Colts go after a Kyler Murray, a Tua, a 414 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 7: big name or mac Jones. 415 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: Jones is he may want a new deal, but I 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: could see for a year going on. 417 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 7: What do you what are you giving up for him? 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 7: Would you give up a second? 419 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it's more of a third. He's a backup. 420 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: You know there's a. 421 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 7: Second round pick is a gold bar wait he did 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 7: be he was a starter in New England and got 423 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: to the playoffs. 424 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Well then he then it's stunk and then he went 425 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and disappeared. And that's true. Now he's a 426 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: backup to brock Purty. So I'm not giving up a 427 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: lot of premium picks. If I had to give up 428 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: a four and a six, I'd do that for a 429 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That's not enough. No, no, no, what a right? 430 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: There was a report yesterday there's no market for so 431 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: you get what you I mean? I guess if I'm 432 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: San Francisco, brock Purty's got a history of getting dinged 433 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: up a little, I probably wouldn't move him. Yeah, but 434 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: you know again San Francisco, John Lynch is hit and 435 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: miss on the draft, and so you know, I mean, 436 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: I think mac Jones starts in this league if he 437 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: has the right support system and Indies o line and 438 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: run game are excellent, So Indy to me works. Shaneestike in, 439 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: good old line, strong run game, that's where mac Jones 440 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: can flourish. 441 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 7: And what are your outdoor games in India? If you're 442 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: playing in Indie, you got to go to Tennessee. That's 443 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 7: not that weather. There's not that bad, no, right, I think, 444 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 7: I honestly Thinkler Murray could cook there big time indoors 445 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 7: Shane steik In as an offensive coach, like you said, 446 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 7: you got the running back, the big play guy. I 447 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 7: think the Colts they could turn it around next year. 448 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: Let's fin it. 449 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 7: Finish up, Colum with the NBA and your boy Kevin 450 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 7: Durant schirping as per usual, he loves to talk Colin 451 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 7: about twenty games left before the playoffs, and Kevin Durant 452 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 7: is now out there saying that the league has great parody, 453 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 7: that like basically anybody can win the title this year. 454 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 7: And I'm curious because earlier in the show you said. 455 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: Like four teams can win the title. 456 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 7: Kevin Durant's out here saying, you know, essentially it's an 457 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 7: open chase fall like. 458 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: For instance, the Knicks defensively can't win the title. The 459 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Pistons offensively half court offense can't win the title. Plus 460 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: they're way too young. Oklahoma City and San Antonio can 461 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: both win it, no question for and I would say 462 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: if Denver got healthy, they so to me, the three 463 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: teams that can win it San Antonio, ok See and 464 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Denver Minnesota put four Minnesota, I don't think now if 465 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Tatum comes back to the Celtics, then they're the fifth 466 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: team that can win. 467 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 7: So you would put the Celtics over Nicks and Pistons absolutely, 468 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 7: And in the Vegas lines that the Calves, it might 469 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 7: be not s. They were favored in Vegas to come 470 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: out of the East with the Harden Mitchell combo. So 471 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 7: if you want to include those three in the East 472 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 7: plus Boston, you're not looking at eight teams. And then 473 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 7: let's just toss the Lakers in there too. 474 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Pistons are not a title team. They're way too young, 475 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: and they have to score in the paint, which is 476 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: much harder to do against good bigs defensively, and the 477 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: New York Knicks, although playing well, there's again when you 478 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: play a five six or a seven game series, and 479 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: I can hunt your weakness. That's why the Lakers are 480 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: a pretty good regular season team and the Knicks are 481 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: a very good regular seas and team. Jalen Brunson and 482 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: kat when I can attack him night after night. And 483 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: by the way, that's where Jalen Brunson gets worn down 484 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: in a series, because you attack him night after night 485 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: after night, and by game four in the series, Brunson's 486 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: offense can start to struggle. So there. I think the 487 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Knicks and the Lakers are built for now. I don't 488 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: think they're built for May. 489 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 7: Just to put on your calendar, Lakers at Denver Thursday night. 490 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 7: If the Lakers win, I'm already lobbying influential staff members 491 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 7: to do the show in a Magic Johnson jersey, you know, 492 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 7: trying to show off the guns or Austin Reeves jersey. Whatever, 493 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 7: you guys prefer, Lakers Night. 494 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: That's a huge one. 495 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 7: The Lakers would overtake Denver in the West for the 496 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: four set. 497 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Let's see what transpires. First, is Jokic playing. 498 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 7: Yokich is scheduled to play. Everybody's playing except Arren Gordon, 499 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 7: who's like the most important guy on Denver. 500 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: Well defensively he is. Yes, yeah, he's huge. Yeah. J 501 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: Mack with the news, Well that's the news and thanks 502 00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: for stopping by. 503 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: He heard line news. 504 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Eric Scouble, the back to back cy young winner, joined 505 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: us in the first hour. He was great. World Baseball 506 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Classic starts tomorrow. Off the Olympic gold for men and 507 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: women in hockey. Now it's World Baseball Classic Team USA. 508 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, Aaron Judge, Goooble, all their Rick Patino top 509 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: of the hour. And you know we've been on this 510 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: thing that and Rick Patino talked about it. You've got 511 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: these Euros. You got kids from all these continents. Now 512 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: they can make more money due to NIL playing in 513 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: the States in college basketball than they can unless they're 514 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: like the number one pick in Europe. All you have 515 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: to do is turn the TV on. I did last 516 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: Friday for Michigan and Illinois. It's like, wow, that was 517 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: they Those teams are good and so and for the record, 518 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: one of the young stars, aj debonsa at b YU. 519 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: Listen to this quote, I might not leave BYU for 520 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six draft. Here he is. 521 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: Listen to him, Well, I might not leave. 522 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 6: What do you mean? 523 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: They all had not leave college. 524 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Why not? 525 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: No, I just gotta this out of the season. 526 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: See, you haven't made. 527 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: Up your mind that you're going to go into the 528 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: draft after now come. 529 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 5: My mom wants me to graduate. Really, Yes, I might 530 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 5: not leave, but I might leave it. Really, I don't know. 531 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: You know, the fans might might get into my head 532 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 5: talk about you know, one more year, maybe three more years. 533 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: I don't know, but i'ma have touch my mom. 534 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: For the record, overwhelmingly college athletes like playing college sports. 535 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: They get well fed, well supported, well marketed, well paid, 536 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: well coached. Here's what you never hear, man, I may 537 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: not leave the G League. I'm not gonna leave overtime elite. 538 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here, Yeah, and not go to the NBA. 539 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: You never hear that. But Cooper Flag last year is like, 540 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I'd love to come back 541 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: to Duke and this kid could be the number one pick, 542 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: probably number two. He's like, I talk to my mom, 543 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: but I'd have no problem coming back. That's because college 544 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: football is a great experience for football players. In college 545 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: basketball is a great experience for eighteen to twenty one 546 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: twenty two year old athletes. So the NBA's demonized it, 547 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: which makes no sense. But you know the biggest companies 548 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: in America love internships. It's a sneak peak on talent 549 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: you can assess and develop. And that's what college basketball 550 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: is for the NBA. It's a pathway to professionalism and 551 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: you get great coaching and intense environments and Rick Patino's 552 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: and Tom Izzo and now I think A j is 553 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna come out. He's too good to stay in college. 554 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's one of these. He and 555 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Darren Peterson. You watch about three possessions and it's like, okay, 556 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: all right, here's Jeff Goodman. Last week on BYU Star. 557 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 9: Got some Paul George in his game. The big thing, 558 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 9: like you said, is the consistency with his shot. 559 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: But man, he can go get one whenever he wants. 560 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean he can. 561 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 9: He can absolutely just put the ball in his hands 562 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 9: and he can he can get to the basket whenever 563 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 9: he wants. And what has really impressed me, and again 564 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 9: seeing his kids since fifteen years old back in AU ball, 565 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 9: his maturity. 566 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So again he put it out there. I'll talk 567 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: to my mom, but I'd come back to BYU. Nobody 568 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: ever says that in the G League, I'm gonna come 569 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: back to the G League. I've had offers. I'm staying here. 570 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: College basketball is a great free marketing platform with better coaching, 571 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: better environments, better training staffs, more well capitalized. I mean 572 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: free marketing. Zion got it, Duke or Cooper Flag got 573 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: it Duke? Pretty obvious it's good for the game. 574 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 575 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: in noon Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 576 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 577 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 7: For a weekend where IndyCar and NASCAR go back to 578 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 7: back on one track. IndyCar on Saturday, NASCAR on Sunday 579 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 7: from Phoenix Raceway. It's the Desert Double on Fox and 580 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 7: FS one. 581 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: So baseball and football hockey have salary caps right to 582 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: make everybody a little more even. Yet the NBA doesn't have, 583 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the same sort of parody that Major 584 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: League Baseball has. Major League Baseball has no salary cap. 585 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: And yet the small market Brewers can go six and 586 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: oner in the regulars season against the Dodgers. The Reds 587 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: can make the playoffs, The Guardians made the playoffs. The 588 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Mariners were outstanding team in Canada doing well, and yet 589 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: this morning, the bottom ten NBA teams are on a 590 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: collective forty game losing streak. Forty game losing streak. So basketball, hey, 591 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: we're not gonna allow tanking. We're gonna have a salary cap. 592 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have this new punitive CBA. So you can't 593 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: form super teams. It's not working. The bottom of your 594 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: league is unwatchable. The bottom ten teams in the NBA 595 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: are on a forty game losing streak. I mean, the 596 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: bottom team in baseball, whatever that team is. The A's 597 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: are obviously moving, so you can kind of take them 598 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: out for a year. But you know, you start looking 599 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: around these middle, medium sized markets and smaller markets. They're 600 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. I mean, Pittsburgh's got the second best 601 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: pitcher in baseball, Skiings, little old Pittsburgh. So it's just, 602 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's all this worry about Major League Baseball, 603 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers are pulling away. And as I said, 604 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: had they lost them game seven to the Blue Jays, 605 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: had they lost it, there wouldn't be this outcry. Because 606 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: they signed Kyle Tucker, who the Cubs could not get 607 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: rid of fast enough and is probably the Dodger's seventh 608 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: best player, maybe eighth. So a lot of it's just 609 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: fear mongering. But the NBA is just terrified of tanking 610 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: and the lottery and the ping pong balls. The bottom 611 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: of their league is unwatchable. It's awful. Meanwhile, Rick Bettino 612 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: came on and listen, I am pro NIL and pro 613 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: transfer portal. But that doesn't mean it's it's without flaws. 614 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I love the NFL, there are things about 615 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: it I don't like. I don't think you know, I 616 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: think the bowls unwatchable. I think the preseasons mostly garbage. 617 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I'd have more inner squad games. I don't think they 618 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: should expand the schedule, and I wish they could get 619 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: the catch rule right more often. I'm still confused by 620 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: But college basketball in the NIL. The truth is, Rick 621 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Bettina was on thirty minutes ago. It has completely fortified 622 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: college basketball because they're pulling the best Euros over now. 623 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: Unless you are the first and second best player on 624 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: the EuroLeague team, the rest of their ROSTA, you could 625 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 3: go to college and get paid a lot more money. 626 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: So college basketball has elevated to a level of great play. 627 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun I've never seen college basketball 628 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: in the last two years this strong. I've been coaching 629 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: fifty some odd years, but it would have to go 630 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: back to the Kareem days, the Walton days, where everybody 631 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: stayed in school. 632 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: And another interesting guest today was Tariq Scooble, who's a 633 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: back to back Cy Young winner with Detroit. So Detroit's 634 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: made the playoffs as a wildcard team, so again another 635 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: not giant market. There's all this fear in the NBA 636 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: about about teams tanking and the bottom of the league, 637 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: but the bottom of the league is unwatchable yet the Mariners, 638 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: the Brewers, the Reds, the Tigers, you know, playoff teams Milwaukee. 639 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: But it's been interesting. As you hear oh labor shortage later, 640 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: labor stoppage is happening in baseball. Yet every time you 641 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: ask a non Dodger about if they're hurting baseball, Bryce 642 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: Harper says of the Phillies, I love what they're doing. 643 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Manny Machado was briefly a Dodger, now a Podre. Podrey's 644 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: number one rival is the Dodgers, he says, I think 645 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: it's great for baseball, And Tariq Scooble of the wild 646 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: card Tigers comes on and he thinks the current state 647 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: of baseball is the best he's ever seen. 648 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: Our game is an really good spot. It's healthy. I 649 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 6: think the World Series, this last World Series was as 650 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 6: good of a World Series as any series of the playoffs. 651 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 6: In general, the fans are showing us that it's great. 652 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 6: Ratings are up, attendance is up, everything's there. So I'm 653 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 6: not quite sure the frustration is warranted from certain fans. 654 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 6: The way the game is right now, it's beautiful. It's 655 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 6: beautiful in every aspect, you know, starting pitching, both en work, defense, lineups, 656 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 6: all that type of stuff. 657 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: And the other thing to you know, the other thing 658 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: to remember. As whereas the NBA is very concerned about 659 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: dynasties and Major League Baseball, you hear many decry the 660 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: dominance of the Dodgers, Yet the most popular sport in 661 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: America is football. And the Patriots had two ten year 662 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: dynasties and the Chiefs had a six year dynasty and 663 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: it didn't hurt the ratings at all. People want great. 664 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: You go to a restaurant, your wife, husband, you're ordering 665 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: the best bottle of wine, and you're looking for your 666 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: favorite thing on the menu. You don't have to love 667 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: everything on the menu. You don't have to love two 668 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: bottles of wine other than the one you ordered. People 669 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: want to see stars. Dodgers lead baseball and road attendance. Yankees, 670 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: Cubs are up there. People want quality. What kills leagues 671 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: is the NBA's bottom ten teams or the Marlins or 672 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: the White Sox. That's what hurts baseball. Never hurts to 673 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: have a dynasty, never hurts to have dominant teams at 674 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: the top. So I don't know the solution for the NBA. 675 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: They've got several regular season problems. But when you hear 676 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: these baseball players, they all say the exact same thing, 677 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers are often arrival. It's great for the sport. Now, 678 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Well, of course, stars want 679 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: to get paid. It's a competitive market. Cubs were good 680 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: last year. They added elements and players. They'll be better 681 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: this year. Astros will be better, Yankee be better, Mets 682 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: have to be better, Podrays could be better. Dodgers will 683 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: they be as good? I'm not sure. Blue Jays, I'm 684 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: not sure. So coming up next hour at the top 685 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: my mock draft, we have had one NFL trade of note. 686 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Free agency is a week away, but everybody's already getting 687 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: their you know, their players in order. The Rams went out. 688 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: They have drafted so well defensively that they're an excellent 689 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: top five defense and yet don't really pay anybody now 690 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: they will. They gave up a first, a fifth to 691 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: six and a third next year to get Trent McDuffie, 692 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: an excellent corner, and I think, as j Max said 693 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: this earlier, what it signals is the Chiefs are in 694 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: a very competitive rebuild. It it's not a classic rebuild 695 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: it but I think it's reasonable to say the Chiefs 696 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: do not feel despite Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Chris 697 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: Jones and Travis Kelsey, the Chiefs do not feel like 698 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: a super Bowl team with Andy Reid and Maho Holmes. 699 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think giving up Trent McDuffie on any Sunday 700 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: the best player the Chiefs have. They've done this before. 701 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: They don't value corners like at a lot of other teams. 702 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: The Rams, by the way, got rid of Jaalen Ramsey. 703 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: Rams generally don't draft corners in the first couple of rounds. 704 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: They don't, so this is a little course correction by 705 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: the Rams who look at themselves and say, guys, special teams, 706 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: we need a better punt returner. We've got we've got 707 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: the punter, we don't have a punt returner, and we've 708 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: also got to upgrade at corner. And the Rams did it. 709 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: So it tells you that the Rams still have a first, 710 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: a second, a third, and I think a fifth and 711 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: a couple of sevenths. They're going to get a tackle, 712 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: they're going to get a receiver, they're going to get 713 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: a safety and maybe another corner. But it tells you 714 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: the Rams are going for it. And it also it 715 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: kind of tells me that the Chiefs realize they may 716 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: not be in a Super Bowl bubble. They're not going 717 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: to announce it or proclaim it or market it. I mean, 718 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: Patrick mahone tweet when it came down. He knew he 719 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: was losing arguably his best teammate. His tweet one word damn. 720 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: So and you totally understand why the Rams did this. 721 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Go look at what JSN did to the Rams. I 722 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: think the last time he played, Jasn had over one 723 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. They just couldn't they couldn't do anything. 724 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: So it is I think you know, the Chicago Bears 725 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: are a great example. This league moves quickly. Yesterday the 726 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: Bears all pro center Drew Dolman retires at twenty seven. 727 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: It's like, what what? So that's why I think the 728 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: Bears should go out and give up their first round 729 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: pick for Max Crosby, who was a game altering, game 730 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: deciding edge rusher with Montese sweat on the interior. And 731 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: there you go. You're a super Bowl team, at least 732 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: in a small group of Super Bowl Bubble teams. So 733 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: before the trade for Trent McDuffie, the Rams were tied 734 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: with Seattle for best odds to win a Super Bowl. 735 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: As of this minute, the LA Rams are now by 736 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: themselves as the Super Bowl favorite. So Trent McDuffie solving 737 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: their number one issue. And they don't have a lot 738 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. They've got one corner is a major problem, 739 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: and they've got to clean up their special teams. But 740 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: the Rams now are favored to win the Super Bowl, 741 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: which jamac you mentioned about thirty minutes ago, Like they 742 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: have to be. Seattle's the only roster that doesn't have 743 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: a whole Philadelphia. There's an argument the. 744 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 7: Sanda lost a lot Colin, the OC's gone, Kenneth Walker 745 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 7: is going to be gone. 746 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: Those are two big losses. I don't know how they're 747 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: going to react. 748 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 7: Rams lost like nothing, did they I mean, I know Lafleur, 749 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 7: who you used to work there is now in Arizona. 750 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 7: But like they got Cliff Kingsbury ad it like. I 751 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 7: think the Rams are head and shoulders above anyone else 752 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 7: in the NFC. 753 00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: I don't are the Bears two or Seattle too? I 754 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: would say Rams, Seattle, Chicago. 755 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, those are a pretty clear top three. Maybe Packers 756 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 7: cracked that. I know you're down on the Eagles. I'm 757 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 7: just looking at the chief secondary. Okay, Colin, this is 758 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 7: not a good secondary. They were thirteenth in pressure rate. 759 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 7: Kansas City is not a good football team right now. 760 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 4: Period. That's a fact. 761 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I don't think that's a sizzling take. 762 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: I think they're getting old in key spots and too 763 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: young in other spots