1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk a bit about monkey pox and 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: the way that the media and politicians and cities and 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: states have been handling this outbreak, which as you know, 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: we talked about it last week with our friend, our 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, and the ways in 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: which it seems to me, just based on observations from 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: our handling of covid um our handling before COVID, of 10 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: HIV AIDS and now with monkey pox, that we as 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: a society have learned absolutely fucking nothing. So here's my feeling. 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: And you guys know that I'm not a doctor, so 13 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: the opinions that I offer are just that, they are 14 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: my opinions based on my analysis of the facts that 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: are presented. Monkeypox is a condition, a disease, a virus 16 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: that is shared via close physical contact. Right now, it 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: seems as if it is running rampant in the community 18 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: of men who sleep with other men, right And the 19 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: way that it has been talked about, however, you know, 20 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: from the beginning, has been just that which is essentially 21 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: oh monkeypox is something that we all don't really have 22 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: to worry about unless you are, in fact a man 23 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that sleeps with other men, which, by virtue of just 24 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: saying that in the media, you are placing a stigma 25 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: around a virus that at some point in time anyone 26 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: is going to be able to pick up, which is 27 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: what has happened. Right as the cases begin to spread, 28 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: and now children have contracted monkey pox, and now more 29 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: women are contracting monkey pox. What we know to be 30 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: true is that what begins in one community does not 31 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: fucking stay there. And I don't know how many times 32 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: that we need to see something happen in order for 33 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: us just to recognize that we need to be alerting 34 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: all people, not saying like, hey, don't worry, don't give 35 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: a shit about this community, and you're good, which is 36 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: essentially how this monkeypox rollout has happened. Monkeypox has been 37 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: something that is obviously has been prevalent in some African nations, 38 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: why because of their geography and environmental conditions that they 39 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: live around actual fucking monkeys, right so much in the 40 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: same way that people in this country didn't give a 41 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: fuck about a bola because it was something that was 42 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: basically just prevalent in certain areas of African nations. And also, 43 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: you know, based on the world's anti blackness, we don't 44 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: give a fuck what comes out of African nations and 45 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: communities because our belief is like, oh, we're so far away, 46 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: as if there are not trains, not trains, but as 47 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: if there are not planes, and as if we don't 48 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: live now in a global community. But so, monkeypox was 49 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: something that was ravaging certain areas on the continent of Africa. Okay, 50 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: so we don't talk about that. We don't talk about 51 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the fact that pharmaceutical companies did not make vaccinations readily 52 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: available because it was considered a disease that was very 53 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: much targeted to one area of the world. That guess what, 54 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: large pharmaceutical companies that are run by white people don't 55 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: give a fuck about producing enough vaccines for because they're 56 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: not going to be able to make money off of it, 57 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and they don't really care. Let's just understand that that 58 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: they're in the business of making money. This is an 59 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: industry and it wasn't as widespread well now, much in 60 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: the same way that COVID started out in one part 61 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: of the world and then readily spread very quickly. Monkeypox 62 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: is doing the same. Last week when I was watching 63 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: the news, there are like a handful of cases right 64 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: all across the country. Now what is being reported by 65 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: MSNBC is that there are ninety new cases like a 66 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: fucking day now, where there were just like maybe one 67 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: or two in a week. So now in the last 68 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, monkeypox has fucking doubled in its spreading, right, 69 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: and again it is spreading outside of the men sleeping 70 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: with men community. And no, that does not mean that, 71 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: oh well, now, if you are a woman that has 72 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: contracted this, it means that somehow your partner, if you 73 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: are in a heterosexual relationship, is somehow on the down low. 74 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: This is how this shit, this stigma begins to happen. 75 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: That we decide that we turn these viruses that are 76 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: becoming more prevalent, we turn them into moral failures. Right 77 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: that there must be something wrong with you if you've 78 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: contracted COVID, why weren't you following the rules right where 79 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, the fucking virus has changed, right, 80 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: and it spreads quicker, and even if you are outdoors, 81 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: but you're in close contact. And now I'm speaking specifically 82 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: about COVID. It isn't a moral failure that you contract 83 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: this disease. It is the virus. It is fucking spreading, right, 84 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: and can spread faster. So the way that we begin 85 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: to explain these different medical conditions and viruses to the public, 86 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I think is in large part part of our huge 87 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: fucking failure. Right, monkey Pots needed to be presented as 88 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: it is a virus that happens when you are in 89 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: close physical contact with other people. And maybe we start 90 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: to think about what are we talking about when we 91 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: say close physical contact. Are we talking about the touching 92 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: of hands? Are we talking about the touching of like 93 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: actual body parts. Are we talking about an exchange of 94 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: bodily fluid? Are we putting monkey Pots in the category 95 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: of a sexually transmitted disease or is it not? Are 96 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: we going back to a place where we need to 97 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: be talking about You know, hey, this is really about 98 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: hygiene and bodily care, So you need to be washing 99 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: hands regularly, carrying your hand sanitizer. This is not something 100 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: that spreads through the air like COVID, right that This 101 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: is more about bodily contact, So you need to be 102 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: if you are intimate with people in that in a 103 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: sexual contact like there needs to be more explanation that 104 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: is done as opposed to giving people just enough information 105 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: for them to feel as if they can opt out, right, 106 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: as if oh I don't have to care about this 107 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: and I don't have to pay attention because this has 108 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: nothing to do with me, when it fact, it fucking does. 109 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Because I guarantee you that two weeks from the time 110 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: that you are listening to this, that those case numbers 111 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: will have doubled again, right, and then this is going 112 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: to be a conversation that we're going to be having 113 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: once again that kids are getting ready to go back 114 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: to school, because when we are talking about I just 115 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: want to set this stage. Imagine this. I used to 116 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: when I got my master's in early childhood education. As 117 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: part of one of the internships that I was doing, 118 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I was working in a preschool. And you all know, 119 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: preschool and acres are basically Petri dishes for every type 120 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: of sickness that you can fucking imagine. Why, Because these 121 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: little kids are putting everything in their mouths. They're putting everything, 122 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, they're running noses, they're spitting up on things, 123 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: they're throwing up. You know, some that are not potty trained. 124 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: All of these things are happening in preschool and in 125 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: daycare settings, right. So if we're talking about close skin contact, right, 126 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: and it doesn't necessarily have to be sexual, then we 127 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: need to have eyes wide open as kids begin to 128 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: go back to school, and I'm talking specifically to about 129 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: younger kids that are learning how to care for themselves 130 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: in terms of hygiene. If we're not having these conversations 131 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: about what we are talking about, when we are saying 132 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: close skin contact and close physical contact, then we are 133 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: setting ourselves up once again for a huge, fucking devastating 134 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: pandemic that then will turn endemic because again, what is 135 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: being reported right now is saying that, oh, we are 136 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: failing once again. The world's failing once again, this country 137 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: is failing once again to raise the alarm in a 138 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: significant way that can have people take the steps that 139 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: they need, all people to keep themselves safe. And what 140 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: does safety look like with monkeypox versus COVID, Well, we 141 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: know about one major difference. You wearing a mask right 142 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: will help an airborne virus like covid, right, But it 143 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: is not going to help with a skin touch, a 144 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: body touch virus like monkeypox. So if you are becoming 145 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: an if you are infected, we know with monkeypox, much 146 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: alike covid, it is highly contagious. There is a quarantine 147 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: that has to happen, right, And they're not just talking about, oh, 148 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: if you're in a shared space or home with people, 149 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: oh okay, you can just wear a mask. They're talking 150 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: about separate plates, utensils, cleaning, cleaning of surfaces. That literally 151 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: everything that you touch from the point of infection with 152 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: monkeypox is indeed a vector point for the disease. So 153 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is happening right now in 154 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: terms of our explanation to the public about the differences 155 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: in these two fucking serious issues that we have in 156 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: this country right now, So, folks, I want you to 157 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: read up right, we are going to continue following monkeypocs. 158 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: The state of New York, where I am, has issued 159 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: a state of emergency, so has the state of California. 160 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Other places will be doing it as what we are 161 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: seeing now is that it is becoming once again monkey 162 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: pops rampant in the middle of the country as well. Right, So, 163 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: if we are not giving the people, giving the public 164 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the information as the information is becoming available and instead 165 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: of pinning it on one community just because you were 166 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: seeing it in one community. Right now, I don't even 167 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: think that that necessarily was useful news, right because in people, 168 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: you have to understand the psychology of how people think 169 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and what people think. Is that if you say, oh, 170 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: this is prevalent in black people and I'm white, well, 171 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with me. If you 172 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: are saying that something is prevalent among women and I 173 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: and I am a man, then again I'm opting out 174 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: of even thinking about this because that doesn't have anything 175 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: to do with me. We are holding so much information 176 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: that I feel like the folks that are supposed to 177 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: be spreading this information to the public to actually understand 178 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: the psychology of people, right and the fact that you 179 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: got one good time to reach people to alert them 180 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: and then they are open into receiving more information. But 181 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: if you set yourselves up in a way that does 182 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: not inform them of the whole we're fucked, right, Like, 183 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: we're absolutely fucked. And this is what we are seeing 184 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: right now. There is one doctor who is talking about 185 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: monkey pocks becoming endemic to the United States because if 186 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: it finds another animal outside of the monkey that then 187 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: begins to carry this. Let's say, as many we're talking 188 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: about a squirrel, a fucking rabbit like animals that are 189 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: more commonplace in the United States now become the host 190 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: of fucking monkey pocks. We're pretty much fucked right because 191 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: squirrels be running around here all the goddamn time and 192 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: literally are eating your vegetables, are you know, digging up things? 193 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Like over here where I am, the squirrels attack all 194 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: of the vegetation. So all of my neighbors that are 195 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: growing vegetables blah blah, blah blah blah. Now they think, Okay, 196 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: not a big deal. They've eaten this or they've But 197 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: if they have fucking monkeypops, what does that mean about 198 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: our own produce? Is there enough to do a wash? 199 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: It is enough to do Like again, the more you know, 200 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: the more that we're able to better prepare ourselves and 201 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: adjust to all of this hot shit that keeps coming 202 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: our way. So that's my thought on monkey pots, and 203 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: again we are going to keep an eye on what 204 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: is happening as it evolves. 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Because, as it turns out, 240 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the latest with the Secret Services text messages, the fact 241 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: that the Watchdog Inspector General knew about the deleted text messages, 242 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: began the process of trying to redeem said text messages 243 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: through their forensics, and then decided not to go ahead 244 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: with that project. Why exactly why did they decide to 245 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: stop the retrieval process? Because what we are learning is 246 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: that the Secret Service is where a lot of place 247 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: people go, places go, organizations go, companies go when they 248 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: need to be able to retrieve data. So if the 249 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Secret Service and this watchdog group is where other groups 250 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: go in order to retrieve data, then the absence of 251 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: said text messaging data no longer seems like an accident, 252 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: does it. It actually starts to seem fairly purposeful and strategic, 253 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: which then leads us to asking self, oh, why did 254 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty four Secret Service members that were in and around 255 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: Trump decide to get their own legal counsel? Maybe because 256 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: they believe that they have criminal exposure. And as I'm 257 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: listening to our friends that are former federal prosecutors like 258 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: Joyce White Vans, like Glenn Carshner, none of this seems accidental. 259 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like an oops. It seems like exactly 260 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: what we know, thankfully from the January sixth Committee. All 261 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: of the things that we thought that the Trump administration 262 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: and that sycophants were covering up were indeed happening and 263 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: worse than we even had anticipated. And get guess what, 264 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: there were Trumpers a part of every fucking agency, a 265 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: part of every fucking department, and so if those people 266 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: hadn't been extracted and they all are part of this 267 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: wider conspiracy theory to overthrow the government and play a 268 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: part in that, or they knew what was happening and 269 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: then didn't do anything about it, they have left themselves open. 270 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: And so we need to stop pretending like deleted text 271 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: messages are somehow an accident. That all of the explanations 272 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: that are being offered are explanations that you would get 273 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: from a toddler that's knocked over a plant clearly and 274 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: has made a mess everywhere. And when you say did 275 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: you do that, they say no, it was the wind 276 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: Right And with the Secret Service, it's like, did you 277 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: purposefully delete these text messages? Oh? No, we were just 278 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: having a change of platform and they just mysteriously went away. 279 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: The change of platform digital platform came after the request 280 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: from the January sixth committee. So again, are we all 281 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: to believe that this was what an accident? I don't 282 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: think so, right, So, I'm just sick and tired of 283 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: the bullshit, right. I think that we are all just 284 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: exhausted because I believe that this administration, the Trump administration, 285 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: and they are leftover sycophants think very little of the 286 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: American people. I think they think we're all fucking stupid, right. 287 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: I think that they BELI leave that we're not as 288 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: interested in getting to the truth as we are, which 289 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: is why they continue to say that this is nothing 290 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: more than a witch hunt. Well, here's the reality, and 291 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: this is how Democrats should be selling this in midterm elections. 292 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to be held to a different standard 293 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: then those that are working in government, whether or not 294 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: you are the President of the United States, a secret 295 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: Service member, a Capitol police officer, a chief of staff, 296 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: or a member of fucking Congress. I want us all 297 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: to be held to the same fucking standards and the 298 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: same rule of law. And if you're not going to 299 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: give a low level fucking criminal the benefit of the 300 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: doubt because of their skin color, because of their economic status, 301 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: then why the fuck are we giving secret service members 302 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: and an independent age and an independent watchdog the benefit 303 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: of the doubt that we don't give to somebody on 304 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: the stret This is the question that I honestly have 305 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: right because I wish that black people in America, innocent 306 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: fucking black people in America, were given half the fucking 307 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that white criminals are given in 308 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: this country, because that's what gets me. That's what gets 309 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: me and my fucking blood pressure through the roof. Is 310 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: the bait, fucking obvious hypocrisy that we see in our 311 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: legal system. Oh, the bar is so fucking high to 312 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: convict a known criminal, Donald Trump. But my god, we 313 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: can shoot and kill or strangle and murder somebody in 314 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: the goddamn street on suspicion, suspicion that they had a 315 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: counterfeit twenty dollar bill. By the way, we never even 316 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: learned whether or not George Floyd actually even had a 317 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: counterfeit twenty dollar bill that was worth him being murdered 318 00:21:53,800 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: over right, Donald Trump. Donald Trump's ignorance and blatant lies 319 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen cost four hundred thousand American lives by 320 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: the time that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were sworn 321 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: in to be president and vice president of the United States. 322 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: Where's the fucking class action suit against the Trump administration? Right? 323 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: Where is the conversation with regard to the fact that 324 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was an accomplice to murder right knowing that 325 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: he had all the information to warn the American people 326 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that people wouldn't have died. What 327 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that four hundred thousand Americans on his 328 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: watch would not have died, and then continue to be 329 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: lied to that they end up killing themselves because they 330 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: are literally willing, as our friend Jonathan Netzels documented, to 331 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: die of whiteness. So you will kill a black person 332 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: on suspicion of what them jogging in a neighborhood, sleeping 333 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: in their own bed, going to the store, picking up 334 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: a gun in an actual gun store. Black people will 335 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: be murdered. But white people who you know are criming 336 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: out in broad daylight clearly have a different set of 337 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: laws and a bar that must be reached in order 338 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: to try or indict them. And so for me, it's like, 339 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: that's how Democrats need to sell this to the American people. 340 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Why should you be operating under a different set of 341 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: laws just because you happen to be black, Latin, x Asian, 342 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, any person of color, or that you're not 343 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a multi millionaire, right Like, why do you have a 344 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: different bar to meet than these people? That to me 345 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: is a political ad that I would run from now 346 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: until fucking election day, Right Like, if no one is 347 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: above the law, then we should all be subscribing to 348 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the same laws. And if I can be picked up 349 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: on the lowest of low level, you know, thought by 350 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: a police officer that I've done something wrong, that by 351 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: virtue of them thinking that I've done something wrong, they're 352 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: able to shoot me, you know a number of times, 353 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: then tell me why we have so much evidence of 354 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: wrongdoing by the Secret Service, by the Trump administration, and 355 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: yet again no one at that level has been picked 356 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: up or indicted. These are the questions that the American 357 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: people actually are asking. Switching gears again. I went on 358 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: MSNBC over the weekend and I was asked a question 359 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: about whether or not I believe that abortion was going 360 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: lack of access to abortion was going to be a 361 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: galvanizing issue for midterm elections, like is it going to 362 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: get people to the polls? And this is what I 363 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: want to unpack here, and just for us to tell 364 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: the fucking truth about black women vote ninety percent of 365 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: the time. Okay, they are the most reliable voting block 366 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: in this country. So when you are asking me a 367 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: question about what will be the galvanizing issue to get 368 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote people to the polls. Let's be specific, right, 369 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Let's just say who we're talking about, instead of that 370 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: this kind of line of questioning that would have me 371 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: believe that you're talking about all people, when really who 372 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about is white women, who the Democratic Party 373 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: has not been able to galvanize or to get them 374 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: a part of the big tent because suburban white women 375 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: vote with their husbands, and their husbands are Republicans. And 376 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: we know this to be true, and have known this 377 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: to be true since the fucking nineteen sixties. So if 378 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: you're going to ask people questions, let's just be real 379 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: about who the fuck you're asking the question about. That's 380 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: number one. Number two. I don't know what it's going 381 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: to get white women to the polls. I have no idea. 382 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't think either party has any idea, right except 383 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: for the fact that wherever their husbands decide to lead. Right, 384 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: because white women are the most protected women, the most 385 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: protected group, I will say, in this country by virtue 386 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: of the fact that white men and society have seen 387 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: white women as the ultimate prize. They're the ultimate in 388 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: terms of beauty, in terms of femininity, in terms of 389 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: all of the things. Right, it is why you know, 390 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: there is this push, this anti abortion push. It is 391 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: connected to white supremacy and to patriarchy. Their numbers are dwindling, right, 392 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: And part of if you listen to these motherfucking oath 393 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: keepers and the three percenters and the proud Boys, part 394 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: of their white supremacy, theorizing comes from the fact that 395 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: more white women need to be giving birth to white men. Right. 396 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: It's why there were misagynation laws on the books, right, 397 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: because if you were to have these races mix to 398 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: a certain extent, then, my god, how would we be 399 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: able to keep the group separate and one at the 400 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: top of the pyramid and others at the bottom. You wouldn't, right, 401 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: because let me tell you that this we don't work 402 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: in slave ways anymore. Right. I say all that to say, folks, 403 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: that I feel once again about being honest about what 404 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: we are saying and who we are talking to, and 405 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: why I believe that if the Democratic Party were to 406 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: do something bold like tell the truth as it pertains 407 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: to abortion, and it not just be about bodily autonomy, 408 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: which it is, and it not just be about control, 409 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: which it is. But let us say the quiet part 410 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: out loud as to who they want to control and why, 411 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: and maybe that would be the thing that galvanizes white 412 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: women into believing that they did not sign up to 413 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: be anybody's fucking incubator right for white male patriarchy, That 414 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: they did not sign up to just literally be an 415 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: oven right, a mindless fucking oven incubator for white babies. 416 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: And maybe if we were to be explicit and just 417 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: tell the truth in that fucking way, that then we 418 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: would activate white women in this real way. And you know, 419 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: I told you last week that on Democracy Ish last 420 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: week my other podcasts that I'd do with my friend 421 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: wajahat Ali, that we spoke with State Michigan Senator Mallory McMorrow, 422 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: whose video went viral after calling out her Republican counterpart 423 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: for referring to her as a fucking pedophile because she 424 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: cared about trans children having equity, right and respect. And 425 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: she said that her goal is to talk to other 426 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: suburban white women who identify as Christian, because if they 427 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: are not talking to each other, then who the fuck 428 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: are they talking to? And like I have said time 429 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: and time again, white suburban women are not going to 430 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: listen to me. What I am saying falls on non 431 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: listening ears. And so what I need for those of 432 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: you who are white, right, who are women who do 433 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: live in the suburbs, to think about you always ask 434 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: what can I do? You can start talking to and 435 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: organizing groups of other white women right to talk about 436 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: the truth and your feelings around abortion, right to talk 437 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: about the feelings and your truth around bodily autonomy, and 438 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: what white men are setting you up to do, which 439 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: is setting you up to be the fall right to 440 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: have to leave the workforce, to be dependent on them financially, 441 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: right to roll you back into the nineteen fifties in 442 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: the place where you all were, you know, hopped up 443 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: on alcohol and drugs as a way to get through 444 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: your day because it was the only outlet that you had, 445 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: was mother's little helper. So I need white women to 446 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: talk to other white women and tell the truth about 447 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: what white men are setting you all up for, because 448 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: it's going to look worse than the Handmaid's Tale. And 449 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: that's the fucking truth. That is it for me today, 450 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Dear friends on woke app as always, power to the 451 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and 452 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.