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Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: What up, Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have been tracking this,

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Speaker 2: but the Colorado ROCKI has won a game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they won a game. They're first since May twenty third. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty bad, right, they won three games, four games.

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Speaker 2: Becuse me in the entire month of May. For they're

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Speaker 2: ten and fifty right now, ten and fifty. And look,

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Speaker 2: I understand that you're sitting there. You start doing percentages,

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, well, you guys were four and twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: The difference in college basketball and in Major League baseball is,

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Speaker 2: presumably you can change your fortunes year to year by

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Speaker 2: changing your teams. We just had our first practice of

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Speaker 2: But you can kind of flip your roster. Whereas baseball

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Speaker 2: it's like it's hard, you know, because you have to

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Speaker 2: in the free agent market and overpay for guys. And

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Speaker 2: remember they're still in Colorado, so you're limited by how

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Speaker 2: matter what you do, the pitchers aren't going to be

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Speaker 2: those games are much longer, the field is gigantic. You

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Speaker 2: remember when the last time? Wasn't that long ago? Here's

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Speaker 2: a question to Jason Stewart, when was the last time

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Speaker 2: the Colorado Rockies were good?

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Speaker 4: I think it was like twenty eighteen or something. Twenty

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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? I mean we're talking about years upon

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Speaker 2: they lost ninety four, year before that they lost eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: And Jason is right, this is twenty eighteen, they won

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Speaker 2: ninety one games, ninety one games, but losing one hundred

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Speaker 2: I think baseball is really interesting. I know that regionally

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Speaker 2: And they are. But this is like the opposite of

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Speaker 2: Maybe even mismanaged or maybe they manage you to try

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Speaker 2: the difference again here is in another one in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the Foxes and now I say every

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Speaker 2: your previous portion of Fox Sports Trader Fox Sports One.

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Speaker 2: Here's the far Arrton and Jonas Dooks talking about the

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Speaker 2: Here's Dan Patrick and Charles Barkley talking about the future

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Speaker 3: Are you unemployed right now?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: I signed a deal last week.

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Speaker 2: Then okay, when do you start working with ESPN.

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Speaker 7: Next year when the season starts?

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Speaker 7: No, you know, I took my time trying to figure out.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know it's I don't even think they know

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Speaker 1: You better know the exact schedule.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna trust trust them, you know, cause that's

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Speaker 2: Charles has said he's retiring previously, and there's so much unknown. Today.

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Speaker 2: ESPN came out and said they we're not doing anything

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Speaker 5: What I am.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out Who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.

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Speaker 1: It's your annoy.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Doug Lebron James was on his mind that game podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm just playing basketball, or just play volleyball, or just

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Speaker 4: Imagine being that much of a loser that you type

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I can't imagine. This is akin to

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Speaker 2: So validating somebody's thoughts on it, it just to me

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Speaker 4: This is what gen Z people do. But in sports,

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Speaker 4: All you quote tweet this, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce,

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