WEBVTT - Part Four: A Complete History of the Illuminati 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.240 Wow, Sophie. I did not expect for you to take 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:10.680 personal responsibility for the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Um. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.319 I had always blamed it on Lee Harvey Oswald. Now 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.520 now actually you have blamed it on a lot of 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.759 people I know. And it's possible someone might say that 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.280 I'm just blaming yet another person for the assassination of JFK. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.880 But really, what I'm trying to let people know is 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.000 that Sophie can land three shots within a roughly dinner 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.159 plate shy sized target at a surprising distance. Move it 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.120 also moving target, moving target too. You got to lead 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.840 that very impressive. I believe in you, Sophie. I believe 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.360 in your ability to take out John Fitzgerald Kennedy if 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.720 you'd had to, And that's why we've built you this 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.519 time machine. If he was coming at you with his 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.640 limousine and you were you were sheltering in a book depository, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:01:00.400 I think you could have done it. Thank come back 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.920 to behind the bastards too powerful. I didn't know how 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.840 to introduce this one, so I decided to blame Sophie 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.360 for a historical crime. I am Robert Evans. This is 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.280 a podcast ostensibly about the worst people in all of history. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.480 We are getting behind some bastards because all right wing 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.600 politics today is rooted in the series of conspiracy theories 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.480 that we are explaining right now for you in three 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.360 hundred iss years of history condensed into I don't know, 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:36.320 like five podcast episodes. Anyway, My guests to continue this 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:42.039 glorious journey in part four are Margaret Killjoy Hello, and 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.920 Garrison Davis. Good morning or afternoon or is some other 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.880 time m yep, it's whatever time of day you're listening to. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.240 So folks, here we are. Let's get back into the 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.960 story for the next year or so. After the Kennedy 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:02.760 assassination conspiracy, he's around. Carrie kind of flared and then 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.040 eventually seemed to subside. His friend Greg moved back to 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.360 New Orleans. Greg kind of was back and forth between 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.880 Whittier and New Orleans. You know, it is being young. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.680 You can't, you know, make rent for a while, you 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.680 move back in with your parents, then you come back. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.000 It's life and h Once he comes back to the city, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.720 the two start work on their long shelved plans to 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.639 create a satiric religion based on the Greek goddess of 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.320 chaos eires. Now, Gary wrote most of the first draft 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.000 of a tract that would later become This is a 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.880 little bit before zenes were a thing, but it also 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.440 is kind of a proto zine. And its title is 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.680 prince Skipia Discordia or How I Found the Goddess and 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.480 what I did to her when I found her, And 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.640 this is it's a good title. It's a good title. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.680 These guys are very funny, and this is it is 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.480 kind of framed as it's a mix of like a 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.720 religious tract and you know it actually what it's kind 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.360 of framed as when I remember when I told you 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:05.040 about how that illuminated member of the Illuminati got struck 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.800 by lightning and found by the cops. A lot of 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.400 the Principia Discordia kind of has the feeling of like 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.840 intercepted communications from like yeah, this like weird, underground cold, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.880 and that's intentional. They know the history that I related 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.840 to you all in the first In fact, are quite 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.480 knowledgeable about the history that I related to you all 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.480 in the opening episodes of this series. Aspects of it 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.440 are kind of framed as a religious tract, and the 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.840 faith that this is attract for is called Discordianism. Now 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.240 by this point, Kerry had already started reading guys like 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.000 Max Sterner, and he had found himself pulled out of 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:46.520 his objectivist trend, of his iron Rand support, and towards 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.880 a more a sort of individualist anarchism. Sterner is a 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.160 guy who wrote a book called The Ego and Its 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:57.200 Own And I am not the person to summarize that 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.440 Egoism is kind of is one of the things that 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.600 like that of anarchism is called. I am not the 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.920 person to summarize it to you. But the main impact 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.640 that has on carry is that he finds himself pulled 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.600 towards anarchism as opposed to this kind of And he'd 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.600 always been an anti state guy, right. That is a 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.160 thing that is pretty consistent, you know, And that's a 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.440 thing that he believes when he considers himself a capitalist revolutionary. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.719 The main thing that Stirner does for him is he 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.600 drops the capitalism right and is just kind of now 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.360 anti state. And he and Greg are also getting increasingly 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.560 interested in the occult. In this period of time, Carrie 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.480 does a pass on the Principia Discordia and then they 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.080 start mailing it off to an ever expanding group of 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.240 their friends, who are mostly artists and weirdo pranksters who 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.120 all like the idea of a religion centered around chaos. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.559 By the mid nineteen sixties, American conspiracy culture had taken 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.400 off to new heights thanks to the Kennedy assassination and 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.080 all that shit that was going on with UFOs. Conspiracism 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.359 is also taking off increasingly among the right wing. Too. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.960 Conservative political establishment is starting to have its first big, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.120 big break away from what you might call consensus reality, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.760 which is existing and accepting a plane of basic reality 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.080 that is similar or if not basically identical to the 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.880 ones that the liberals accept, and towards a more darker 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.800 splinter reality defined by conspiracism. And the author of this switch, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:28.560 probably the single figure most responsible for the splintering of 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:32.599 the reality tunnels in mainstream American politics is a guy 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.880 named Robert H. Welch Junior, who we have talked about 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.120 on this show. He is the founder of the John 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.800 Birch Society. Now again, if you want to listen to 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.719 those episodes on Bob Welch that we do with the 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.679 Knowledge Fight guys, I do recommend them. But in case 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.800 you haven't heard those, Are you just rusty on the 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.000 subject of the John Birch Society. I'm going to quote 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.000 from our friend Hofstadder again, who wrote the Paranoid Style 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.520 in American Politics in November of nineteen sixty four. So 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.640 that article that I quoted to you earlier talked about 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.520 the Illuminati and its influence on kind of conspiracism in 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:08.680 America earlier like two episodes ago. That article was written 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.599 during the period we're talking about right now, November fo Yeah, 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.800 a few years ago Welsh proclaimed that communist influences are 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.000 now in almost complete control of our government. Note the 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.680 care and scrupulousness of that almost. He has offered a 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.880 full scale interpretation of our recent history in which communists 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.560 figure at every turn. They started a run on American 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.160 banks in nineteen thirty three that forced their closure. They 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.960 contrived the recognition of the Soviet Union by the United 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.159 States in the same year, just in time to save 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.080 the Soviets from economic collapse. They've stirred up fuss over 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.880 segregation in the South. They have taken over the Supreme 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.360 Court and made it one of the most important agencies 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.160 of communism. Right, That's how Hopstater described This is where 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:53.200 and that is if you replace communism with the illuminati, 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.240 it's the same kind of shit that people were saying 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.680 after the French Revolution, right, It's the same playbook, and 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.680 it very much is a playbook for a guy, for 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.600 a lot of these people. In the early nineteen sixties, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.120 Welch came across a pair of books that had a 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.479 massive influence on him. In these books were Nesta Webster's 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.080 Secret Societies and Subversive Movements from nineteen twenty four and 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:17.000 American evangelist Gerald win Rod's book Adam Weisshopped a Human 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.720 Devil from nineteen thirty five. That is a that is 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.760 a banger title. If anybody writes a book about me, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.640 Robert Evans a human Devil, I will be the proudest 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:33.320 I'm capable of being. I had a satanic scare at 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.480 the last place I lived, like a local newsperson about 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.520 one of my music videos, and so we just printed 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.920 up the next band shirt was just all of the like, 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:47.360 axe wielding terrorist women, anti phi anarchists, sacrificing babies in 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.280 the woods or whatever. That's how you can do it. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.160 So both of these books, and this is going to 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:58.080 really shock you, guys, were profoundly anti Semitic. And this 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.920 is kind of the start of this of a European 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.400 school of thought that saw Jews and the Illuminati and 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.720 in some cases the Freemasons as like co authors of 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.000 the French and Bolshevik Bolshevik revolutions together that like, this 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.040 is all tied together, and this is a big part 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.960 Hitler is spousing aspects of this he's taught. En if 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.040 you like, look at what Hitler actually said about the 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.400 conspiracies he believed. He would often call it Judeo Bolshevism, Right, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.680 Hitler's not so much into the illuminatis stuff. But the 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.560 stuff Hitler believes is very much descended from a lot 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.760 of this stuff. So Welch jettison to the anti Semitism 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.280 he found in these books, some of it at least, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.440 but he kept the rest, particularly the obsession with a 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.720 grand Illuminati conspiracy theory. And I'm going to quote now 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.439 from the book The World of the John Birch Society. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.199 Welch's first public mention of the Illuminati, but not yet 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.160 the Insiders, came in his more stately mansion speech, delivered 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.559 before a crowd of seventeen hundred at the Conrad Hilton 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.280 in Chicago on June fifth, nineteen sixty four. He told 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.520 his biographer that although he had been studying this subject 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.840 for a number of years prior to this, he understood 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.160 that you couldn't start putting it all out in one 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.960 go because nobody would believe you. Instead, he'd endeavored to 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.680 lead the Birch Society's members little by little to where 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.960 they would be interested. Despite these concerns, Welch's idea of 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.840 the insiders was quickly incorporated into the society's official worldview, 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.880 with Birch writers like Medford Evans amusing about whether Dean 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.640 Rusk was the insider's quarterback, for example. But just as often, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.280 the conspirators continue to be identified as the communists, the liberals, 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:33.960 the establishment, the liberal establishment, or simply the conspiracy. The 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.600 seeming interchangeability of the terms reflected the fact that appearances 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.280 to the contrary, notwithstanding Welch's turn to the illuminati, hadn't 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:46.600 really changed his basic analysis. So that's interesting. Number one. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.400 Welch is kind of doing a little bit of an 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.960 atom by shop with his society right where he's like, well, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.640 you can't tell everyone the whole truth at once. You 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.720 have to kind of like lead them there. But he's 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.079 also he comes to believe that, he comes to believe 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.720 in these Illuminati conspiracies, that they're behind the French Revolution, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.760 of the Bolshevik Revolution and all of these social justice movements. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.080 But he also consciously loops them in with both this 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.719 blaming it on insiders, right, the illuminati or the insiders, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.600 and you might call them the deep state, you know, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.040 but he also he identifies them in the same breath 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.400 as not just the communists but also the liberal establishment. Right, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.760 all of this is the conspiracy. All of this linked 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.520 together is the conspiracy the right is going to believe 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.720 in from nineteen sixty four up to today in November 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.079 nineteen huh Oh. It's just it's so based on anti 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.760 semitism in terms of the way that like people think 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.320 of anti semitism is like racism, but confusing because applied 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.720 to this group of people that's often white. But it's like, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.600 it's not, it's just this entirely different system of oppression 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.760 that's based on this. I don't know, but yeah, this 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 this belief in this fucking secret rules based on this, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.760 It's based on this belief that there is a fragment 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:02.280 of society within your society that is different and fundamentally 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.559 is trying to push all of these modernizing elements for 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.640 sinister reasons right of their own power. Right. That is 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.959 the core of anti Semitic belief. And it is focused 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:15.160 obviously on the Jews being that fragment. But once you 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.440 start to believe that, it's not hard for you to 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.920 move on to just like, well, beyond that, it's the Illuminati, right, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.720 it's the communist it's the liberals, establishment, all of these 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.800 different like you've accepted that there's this that any sort 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:33.680 of movement towards a progressing society is based in a 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.720 conspiracy to destroy it, right, And that's the most important 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.120 step to take. And it also it goes the other 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.719 direction too. Now that you get people to believe in 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.520 lizard people or whatever other Illuminati thing, you can then 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.920 get them to also just become anti Semitic. Yes, it 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.080 works backwards and forwards. Again, it's very syncretic too, So 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.480 you can people who are just convinced that there's lizard 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:59.079 people or Bigfoot or UFOs if you loop that into like, well, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.319 the Illuminati doesn't want you to know about Bigfoot or 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.320 the UFOs, right, And they're keeping that, then that is 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.600 also an inroad to get those people believing that the 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.120 Jews are behind everything bad in society. This is a 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:16.600 pretty durable, improven thing that happens within conspiracism. Yeah. In 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.480 November of nineteen sixty six, roughly a year after the 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.040 publication of The Prince Skipia Discordia, Bob Welch published an 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.320 essay in a John Birch magazine titled The Truth in Time, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.160 in which he revealed his discovery of a master conspiracy 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.280 older than communism. The communist movement is only a tool 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.320 of the total conspiracy. As secret as the communist activities 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.080 and organizations generally appear, they are part of an open 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.200 book compared to the secrecy enveloping some higher degree of 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.480 this diabolic force. The extrinsic evidence is strong and convincing 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.840 that by the beginning of the twentieth century there had 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.600 evolved an inner core of conspiratorial power able to direct 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.079 and control subversive activities which were worldwide in their reach, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.720 incredibly cunning and ruthless in their nature, and brilliantly far 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.680 sighted and patient and their strategy. Whether or not this 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.120 increasingly all powerful hidden command was due to an unbroken 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.800 continuation of vaishops alun Illuminati, or was a distillation from 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.160 the leadership of this in other groups We do not know. 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.760 Some of them may never have been Communists, while others 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.800 were to avoid as much dispute as possible. Therefore, let 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:25.360 us call this ruling click simply the insiders. It's it's 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.040 just people fallen for the bait, thinking that they're smart. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.640 It's yeah, and Bob Welsh is both high on his 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.199 own supply but also recognizes this is a good way 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.079 to manipulate people, and it's interesting. Nineteen sixty four is 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.319 Welsh's first meet mention of the Illuminati, whereas like, I've 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.680 got to prep the ground for people. Nineteen sixty six 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.440 is where he comes out with his big speech talking 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.920 about the Illuminati. Nineteen sixty five is when the Principia 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.360 Discordia gets published. It is all of this. We should 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.200 say that the Principia Discordia has a decent section in 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.000 it about the Yes, I'm about to get to that. Yeah, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:07.200 we will be reading from it right now. Yeah. Yeah. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.760 The Principient Discordia was written for people like Greg and Carey. 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.920 Because it was written by people like Greg and carry right, intelligent, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.040 well read weirdos on the fringes of society who are 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:21.160 natural skeptics, but who are also drawn irresistibly towards conspiracism. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.280 It's fitting that chapter one, authored by Carry and attributed 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:29.080 to his pseudonym Lord Omar khay M Ravenhurst, was called 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.520 the Epistle to the Paranoids. It is essentially a message 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.320 to the counterculture of the nineteen sixties. And at this point, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.160 as he's had his sort of break into anarchism, he's 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.640 finding himself increasingly angry that the objectivists where he'd formerly 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.480 kind of like found identification, and the Marxists who he'd 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.280 once identified with, and the anarchists who he now identified 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.800 with all hated each other. And we're all fighting each 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.240 other rather than fighting the state, right, and he the paranoids, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.000 that's who he's talking about, is these people on account 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.760 your culture who are all in opposition to the state, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.440 but who can't get along with each other. And this 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.040 message in the Prince Scipia Discordia is essentially a message 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.000 to this fragmented chunk of the counterculture that he was like, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.840 you guys are fighting too much to oppose the state. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.680 In a meaningful way. And I'm going to read a 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.080 quote from that now, And this is again the Epistle 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.320 to the Paranoids. Number one, Ye have locked yourselves up 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.440 in cages of fear, And behold, do you now complain 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.720 that ye lack freedom? Ye have cast out your brothers 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.480 for devils, And now complain ye lamenting that ye've been 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.000 left to fight alone all chaos? Was once your kingdom 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.800 verily held ye dominion over the entire Pentaverse. But today 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:44.080 ye was sore, afraid, and dark corners, nooks and sinkholes. Oh, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.080 how the darknesses do crowd up one against the other 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.640 in ye hearts? What fear ye more than that? What 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.760 ye hath rotten? Verily? Verily? I say into you, unto you, 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.560 not all the sinister ministers of the Bavarian Illuminati, working 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.240 together in multitudes, could so entwine the lad and with 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:07.320 tribulation as have your baseless warnings. Are you just trying? Yeah, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.640 that's not a thing that anyone involved in radical politics 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:21.720 today would identify it with on a deep and emotional level. Right, Yeah, Yeah, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:26.120 it's well written too, he is He's I find a 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.120 lot in this piece. Um. Now, the next section of 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.080 the Prince Skipia was an ad um and it's framed 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.680 as an advertisement as like a hokey sixties style advertisement 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.480 to join the Bavarian Illuminati, which is listed as the 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.200 world's oldest and most successful conspiracy. Greg and Carry give 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.000 their version of Illuminati history here, which puts the creation 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.800 of the organization at around ten ninety by Hassan is Saba, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.239 a medieval warlord credited with creating an order of hashbet 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.480 fueled assassins. People get the history, the exact history on 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.520 that a little bit, quite a lot wrong. Obviously, Hassan 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.080 as Sava had nothing to do with the Illuminati, and 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.120 they knew this. This was a joke for them right. 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.719 The advertisement is very tongue in cheek. It also references 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.719 HP Lovecraft's creation Yog south Off, as well as so 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.560 Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, among other things. The 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.399 Princekipia is a satire of real cults, but also a 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.080 satire of American mass media, and in fact, that ad 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.000 to join the Bavarian Illuminati ends with these lines. If 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.000 your right Q is over one fifty and you have 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.840 three thousand, one hundred and twenty five dollars plus handling, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.639 you might be eligible for a trial membership if you 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.280 think you will quit if you qual If you think 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.520 you qualify, put the money in a cigar box and 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.160 bury it in your backyard. One of our underground agents 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.360 will contact you shortly. I dare you tell no one. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.120 Accidents have a strange way of happening to people who 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.720 talk too much about the Bavarian Illuminati. Maybe may we 0:17:53.800 --> 0:18:00.159 warn you against imitations? Ours is original and genuite you 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:05.040 do a podcast about this? Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, there's 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.920 there's some mensa mixed up in there. Right. There's also 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.000 like Coca Cola ads kind of like this is the 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.080 original flay you know, yes, yes, they're making fun of 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.000 all this stuff. Speaking of advertisements that will instruct you 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.560 to bury your money and throw it away. Here our 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.720 ads that God, I hope it's a gold ad. I 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.200 hope I wish for each of you a gold ad. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:34.520 At this point we're back. Um, so one thing that 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.240 becomes clear going through the prince Skipia and and doing 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.160 and by the way, you can pronounce the Principia discordia 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.399 however you want, because nobody actually knows how ancient Latin 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.320 was pronounced in its entirety we have ecclesiastic Latin, which 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.119 is a bit different. So if you want to be 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.159 like I don't you're gonna pronounce it that way, you 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.399 can go fuck yourself. I took three years of Latin, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.959 I'll say it. However the fuck I goddamn want um 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:01.320 go to hell. I'd love you don't study Latin and 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.399 high school kids. That's what I did time I did. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.400 Look at us. We are such a bunch of suckers. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.479 I know, I know absolutely. My friends are all like 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.320 learning Spanish that they didn't travel with, and I'm stuck 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:24.280 there learning about how fucking caycillous and is. Yeah, buddy, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.359 I had a you know, it helped me up a 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.399 conversation with my nun aunt about whether or not you 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:32.399 pronounced Latin certain ways. That's what I got out of 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.399 three years A lot I took. You want to We 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.600 just did some episodes on on Bobby Fisher, and some 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.040 people thought I was intending to just kind of joke 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.040 about the fact that he was a nerd because I 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:45.600 was also a nerd, which is why I brought up 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.280 Warhammer so much. But I took three years of Latin 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.359 so that I could understand all of my Warhammer books 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.880 like that was that was why I did that. Hell yeah, 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.800 so there there you go. Anyway, whatever, one thing that 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.439 comes clear going through the Principia and doing all this 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.360 research on the Illuminati is how knowledgeable Greg and Carrie 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.439 and their other friends were about the actual history not 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.440 just of the Illuminati, but of other secret societies and conspiracies. 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.040 These guys have like an academic levels understanding of this history, 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.560 which is why they are able to parody it so successfully. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.159 The Principia contains a number of letters in which members 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.440 of the Illuminati, all of which are like and they 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.320 take as did we didn't really get into this in 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.880 those but all of the original Illuminati people like took 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.320 on uh pseudonyms that were like themed after ancient Greek 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:40.920 and Roman history like Achilles and Ajax and stuff, and 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:45.240 all of the new Illuminati, the Discordians take on pseudonyms 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.800 as well. As I said, Um Carries is Lord Omar 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:54.080 Khayam Ravenhurst, Greg Hills is Malaclipse the younger m and 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:58.800 yeah they give you know, uh yeah, so these guys 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.320 are are are very much anciously like aping Adam yeshopped 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.520 and in their conspiracy document that they put out. They 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.480 each provide kind of different and often contrasting theories about 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.879 the actual age and origin of the Illuminati. Usually this 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.400 winds up stretching back to prehistory and they're kind of continuing, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:22.480 why shops lie here? Right, like consciously continuing because like 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.640 he would pretend it was an ancient society. They're doing 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.080 this intentionally, and it also includes bits like this which 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.560 are clearly satirizing the John Birch Society. Your publication is 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.760 timely so mentioned that an addition, and this is part 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.280 of a section of it that's framed as intercepted letters. Basically, right, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.000 your publication is timely so mentioned that in addition to 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.480 the old fronts like the Masons, the Rothschild Banks, and 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.720 the Federal Reserve System, we now have significant control of 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.960 the Federal Bureau of Investigation since Hoover died last year, 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.200 but that is still secret. The Students from a Democratic Society, 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.720 the Communist Party USA, the American Anarchist Association, the Junior 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.679 Chamber of Commerce, the Black Lotus Society, Eddie, the Republicans Party, 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.359 the John Dillinger Died for You Society, and the Campfire Girls. 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:07.760 It is still useful to continue the sham of the 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.520 Birchers that we are seeking world domination, so do not 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.119 reveal that political and economic control was generally complete several 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:19.560 generations ago. It's so funny, it's so good. Yeah, this 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.040 is a response to the John Birch society as much 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.720 as it is anything else. And they're fucking with people, right, Like, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.119 that's what's going on here. Okay, but the right is 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.800 there a Campfire Girls or do they make that up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.359 that was like a Girl Scouts kind of that that 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.159 I may still exist for all I know. I'm not 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.119 a Campfire Girls exit expert, although soon we'll have our 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:43.840 six part series on the camp Fire Girls. You already 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.359 did the Boy Scouts, so we could have done a 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.959 couple more episodes on the fucking boy Scouts. Yeah. Um. 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.919