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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Kosovic.

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Speaker 3: It is total and complete.

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Speaker 4: Garbage in the mind of the American public.

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Speaker 3: Who's leaving the Democratic Party. I'm just curious. There are

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Speaker 5: The order that I'll signed today in a few moments

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Speaker 5: directs the Council to develop strategies to approve America's physical

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Speaker 6: Since the presidents took office, he created about two and

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Speaker 6: a half million jobs for Americans, whereas whereas we've eliminated

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Speaker 6: result of our strong immigration policy, of our strong border

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Speaker 7: President Trump has signed the paperwork and the global trade

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Speaker 8: Russia hammered Kiev with missiles and drones overnight, lighting up

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Speaker 5: Russia, I think it's disgusting what they're doing.

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Speaker 9: This is Biden's war.

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Speaker 1: Today's edition Human Events Daily here Live, Washington, DC. Today's

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Speaker 1: August first, twenty twenty five, Anno Domini. We're seeing now

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Speaker 1: political turmoil over in Ukraine as Russian forces continued to

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Speaker 1: sixteen months, seventeen month, eighteen months, an incredibly bloody war,

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Speaker 1: an incredibly bloody battle amidst an incredibly bloody war. You're

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Speaker 1: The lies with which they embarked on this, they provoked

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Speaker 10: But the Sydney, the Sweeney Apocalypse, the Sweeney Apocalypse continues,

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Speaker 10: and all it seems of left wing social media is

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Speaker 11: How are you doing good? Thanks for having me Jack Vida.

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Speaker 3: I have to ask what color are your jeans?

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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, I wear dark jeans.

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Speaker 11: No, this say's true. I do, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't apparently, if you're a white person,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's interesting to me? And I was.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't mention anything about race. She just talks about

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Speaker 1: But we're kind of talking about the same They say,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we are. Jack.

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Speaker 3: And so what do they want to do?

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Speaker 2: Jack, It's like, what are they telling young women, especially

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Speaker 2: We're looking out for you, And of course they're not

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Speaker 11: They're actually the enemies.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, because there's two ways right and we

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Speaker 3: It is what it is. And these people they just

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Speaker 2: And Jack can I just say beauty is uplifting? Like, well,

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Speaker 11: This out we are.

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Speaker 11: Just like yourself and the mundane, but it's civilization.

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Speaker 3: That's sorry, it's so hard to say.

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Speaker 1: Out of those Vita we got, we gotta run. I'm

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Speaker 3: Right back you Inventsale.

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Speaker 12: About influencers.

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Speaker 3: These are influences and they're friends of mine.

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Speaker 13: Jack, Jack, all right, Jack Pasovic here, Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: We're on with Lieutenant Carl Tony Schaeffer joining us at Tony,

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Speaker 3: Good be here, Jack, Well Tony. Look, you came on

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we're seeing, not only across that

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Reuter's there it is with the piece Russia

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Speaker 1: what are we seeing? Why didn't any of the West

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Speaker 14: Because they're not actually looking at the reality and the

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Speaker 14: You and I are intelligen saficers, and I think we

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Speaker 14: I think for intelligence officers and reporters, just saying where

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Speaker 14: And again, the Russian process of combat and attrition has

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Speaker 14: And I think that's what's happening here. And with the

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Speaker 1: Fact, you know, and you see some of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: supplying more, we need to go more. What I've said

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Speaker 1: is I don't think there's a military way out of

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Speaker 1: this for this. I don't see one. Do you see one?

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Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, the only the

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Speaker 1: only option, of course, that which they could do. It's

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Speaker 1: not a technological or an armament issue, it's a man

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Speaker 1: power issue. So the only option then would be for

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Speaker 1: NATO to get involved, which of course creates a much

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Speaker 1: much bigger problem.

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Speaker 14: I said within the first three months of the war,

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Speaker 14: if you go back and find some of those interviews

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Speaker 14: I probably did here on your networking on newsmacs, that

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Speaker 14: there was never going to be a time that the

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Speaker 14: Ukrainians would have any anywhere near a numeric even equivalent

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Speaker 14: to the Russian available army, armed forces, the personnel, and

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Speaker 14: I said, then there was no way that the Ukrainians

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Speaker 14: would prevail without it outside third source coming into help them,

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Speaker 14: and that would have to be either the European Union,

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Speaker 14: which would be kind of a joke, but you know, okay,

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Speaker 14: or native NATO is a military force, and that would

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Speaker 14: be the only way there could be an effective countering

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Speaker 14: of the numeric superiority of the Russians. So from day

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Speaker 14: one this was doomed, especially the way the Biden administration's

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Speaker 14: kind of incrementally incrementally given them weapons. Hope, it's not

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Speaker 14: a strategy, Jack, and that's what they were just kind

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Speaker 14: of throwing things in there, hoping for the best, and

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Speaker 14: so I think this has gone on longer than I expected.

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Speaker 14: But with that said, the Russians have a great appetite

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Speaker 14: for pain, for suffering. Even though their economy may not

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Speaker 14: be booming, it's not doing badly. They're shrugging off all

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Speaker 14: the new eighteenth round of sanctions from the Europeans. There

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Speaker 14: is no military solution that's available.

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Speaker 12: To the Ukrainians in this regard.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I saw Putin was meeting with Lukashenko

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Speaker 1: Belarus today and he was asked about the fact that

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Speaker 1: Zelenski is now calling for full regime change in Russia

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Speaker 1: and saying that that's that's what they want, and Pudin's

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Speaker 1: response was, well, I see that he's not interested in negotiating.

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Speaker 3: That's right now.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, we can wait, we can wait, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Because they're the ones who are pounding forward on the ground,

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Speaker 1: it's it's Zelensky who's running out of time, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's basically what he's playing at there. No, I

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Speaker 1: think I think at the end of the day, though,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be between Ukraine and Russia. It's

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Speaker 1: got to be between Russia and the United States. That's

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Speaker 1: that's where all this started. That's what this absolutely comes

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Speaker 1: down to.

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Speaker 14: And I think the United States has kind of fed

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Speaker 14: up with Zelenski. You know, there's rumors now fairly well informed.

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Speaker 14: I think the Financial Times has done an article on

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Speaker 14: the fact that the West is looking to dump Zelenski

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Speaker 14: and that there's a losing for generals are losing, ambassadors

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Speaker 14: are losing. Who's currently the Ukrainian ambassador of the UK

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Speaker 14: is kind of being looked at as the potential replacement, which.

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Speaker 15: By the way, look at right, he's on the cover

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Speaker 15: of Vote magazine, is overdoing a huge, huge photo spread

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Speaker 15: viz ILLUSIONI right now say you know, and you have

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Speaker 15: to wonder, You just have to wonder, how, how how

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Speaker 15: Zelenski is Taking a look at that, I say, wait,

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Speaker 15: why is.

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Speaker 3: He getting the Vote cover? I thought that was my cover.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Tony, that you've been spot on.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We've got to run for this day.

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Speaker 1: But I just wanted to give you that opportunity to

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Speaker 1: pop back in here and give us the update and

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Speaker 1: to point out that hey, you know who had this

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Speaker 1: right wasn't all of Western media.

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Speaker 3: It was Tony Schaeffer, where can people follow you?

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Speaker 5: Brother?

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Speaker 14: Well, thanks, just follow me on X you know you

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Speaker 14: and I are on there doing interesting things and Project

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Speaker 14: Centinel dot com. And it's always a pleasure to Jakin

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Speaker 14: to join you and thanks for having me. I look

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Speaker 14: forward to future discussions on what's coming.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna have to do a deep dive coming

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Speaker 1: up soon, Jack and Soviet coming back here. Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice park it Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where's Jack worriessing? Jack? I want to see you.

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Speaker 9: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 9: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 3: We're always talking about the fake views.

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Speaker 5: Of the band, but we have guys and these are

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Speaker 5: the guys.

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Speaker 1: You're forgetting policies, all right, Jack Rosovic here Live Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily, Real America's Voice. New book is out from

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Speaker 1: author John Lake for and co authored by the great

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Speaker 1: Peter McCullough, Doctor Peter mccolla of course you guys all

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Speaker 1: know him. The title is Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology and Reality.

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Speaker 1: And we've got John Lake here joining us. John, How

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Speaker 1: are you fine?

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Speaker 9: Fine? Thank you, Jack, delighted to be here.

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Speaker 3: We're excited to have you.

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Speaker 1: This is the topic that the audience, of course, is very,

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Speaker 1: very concerned with So I think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: absolutely interested in hearing about your new book. Of course,

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Speaker 1: they're all going to want to go and get a copy.

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Speaker 1: Tell us why did you decide to write this book now,

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Speaker 1: and what do you go into when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this question of where did vaccines come from?

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Speaker 16: Peter McCullough and I have been working together for the

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Speaker 16: last four years.

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Speaker 9: We wrote our first.

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Speaker 16: Book together about the initial stage of the pandemic response,

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Speaker 16: the suppression of early treatment. We perceived that the suppression

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Speaker 16: of early treatment for COVID nineteen was a gambit to

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Speaker 16: prepare the public not just in the United States, but

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Speaker 16: throughout the West Australia, pretty much the whole world for

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Speaker 16: a mass vaccination campaign using a new vaccine technology, this

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Speaker 16: molecular biology gene transfer product synthetic messenger RNA, and we

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Speaker 16: noticed a kind of universal zeal. Bill Gates came on

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Speaker 16: a news program in April of twenty twenty in which

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Speaker 16: he said mankind will only be able to go back

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Speaker 16: to normal.

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Speaker 9: When essentially everyone on Earth.

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Speaker 16: Receives the new COVID nineteen vaccine, which was remarkable because

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Speaker 16: it had not even been developed and tested at the time.

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Speaker 16: It was a kind of foregone conclusion in his mind

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Speaker 16: that it would soon arrive and then every man, woman,

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Speaker 16: and child on earth would receive it. There would be

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Speaker 16: no reason for any exceptions to receiving this.

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Speaker 9: And we noticed the way.

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Speaker 16: Mister Gates was talking about it. It was as though

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Speaker 16: this new vaccine, not yet developed, was going to appear

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Speaker 16: like a liberator and a savior of mankind from this

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Speaker 16: pestilence that had stricken the world. And we thought, this,

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Speaker 16: this is such an extraordinary ambition that doesn't even seem

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Speaker 16: particularly scientific. It almost seems to come out of science fiction.

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Speaker 16: And there's an underlying zeal or even fanaticism that struck

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Speaker 16: us as being almost religious in nature. So we asked ourselves,

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Speaker 16: when did mankind become so charmed? When did mankind fall

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Speaker 16: in love with vaccines the vaccine concept. Let's go look

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Speaker 16: at the early roots of this. I studied history for

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Speaker 16: forty years, and so that's what we did. We went

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Speaker 16: back to the first anoculation campaign, the smallpox outbreak in Boston,

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Speaker 16: Massachusetts in seventeen twenty one. The foremost advocate for smallpox inoculation.

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Speaker 9: Was Cotton Mather.

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Speaker 16: He was a famous Puritan minister in Boston at the time,

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Speaker 16: consulting theologian for the Puritan for the Salem witch trials,

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Speaker 16: and Mather said, the new inoculation procedure is a gift

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Speaker 16: from God. Those who don't reject God's benefaction or sort

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Speaker 16: of reprobate everyone should accept this great blessing and benefaction

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Speaker 16: from God.

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Speaker 9: And from the early pronouncement.

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Speaker 16: Of that in Boston in seventeen twenty one all the

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Speaker 16: way until twenty twenty one, we document how vaccines do

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Speaker 16: have this kind of metaphysical fascination for the human mind,

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Speaker 16: and the enterprise is very much one of orthodoxy. They work,

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Speaker 16: they're safe, they're effected. Everyone should get them and no exceptions.

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Speaker 16: And if you don't get it, if you raise any

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Speaker 16: questions about it, then you shall be excommunicated.

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Speaker 1: And we saw that so often, you know, I John,

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Speaker 1: I just got.

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Speaker 3: To say when you when you mentioned Bill Gates, it

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Speaker 3: just brought me back.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this I'm so and so many

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Speaker 1: people are so upset about what doctor Fauci did.

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Speaker 3: To this country, and this is exactly what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: He took this orthodoxy, this theology and he pushed it

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Speaker 1: upon everyone, specifically on mothers and their children. He directly

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Speaker 1: And I remember this time that I was. I was

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Speaker 1: and I had to I was just picking up some

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Speaker 1: cough drops or something, and I saw this line of

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Speaker 1: people with their kids and they would they would take

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Speaker 1: them in the back, and these kids would be screaming about.

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Speaker 3: And they're all getting the shot. We was all.

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Speaker 1: It was all, it was all cloud shot, and that

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Speaker 1: I had to walk out. I didn't even make the purchase.

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Speaker 3: I just had to. I had to walk out.

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Speaker 1: And this this Fauci thing, the part in which obviously

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Speaker 1: wasn't even signed by Joe Biden, It's all got to

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Speaker 1: be looked at. And I really hope that this is

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Speaker 1: something that when people read your book, it'll give them

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Speaker 1: the ammunition to fight back about what he did to

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Speaker 1: this country.

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Speaker 16: Well, I would add to that that something that's not

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Speaker 16: yet understood by many is that chapters called the bio

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Speaker 16: terror racket or the biodefense racket. And so the idea

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Speaker 16: starting around well, it really began with the emergence of

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Speaker 16: the first stars coronavirus and two thousand and two two

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Speaker 16: thousand and three, a sort of fascination with coronaviruses as

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Speaker 16: having enormous pandemic potential. Influenza had failed to delivery yet

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Speaker 16: another terrible pandemic like what we saw in nineteen eighteen.

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Speaker 16: There was a feeling that maybe influence or was not going.

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Speaker 9: To be the great terror that.

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Speaker 16: Influenza specialists had been warning about for decades. So a

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Speaker 16: fascination grew up with coronaviruses, and what we've discovered, and

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Speaker 16: certainly Anthony Fauci was aware of it, was that it

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Speaker 16: was really American biotechnicians, Ralph Barrack at the University of

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Speaker 16: North Carolina Chapel Hill, being the most prominent and the

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Speaker 9: And there's a long.

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Speaker 16: Paper trail documenting this. And the idea is, will create

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Speaker 16: a virulent coronavirus that is transmissible amongst humans in order

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Speaker 16: to develop a vaccine countermeasure to.

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Speaker 9: Get ahead of it.

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Speaker 16: In the event that there should be a natural evolution

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Speaker 16: of a coronavirus in nature, we'll tinker.

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Speaker 9: Around with one in a lab.

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Speaker 16: We'll have a vaccine ready to rock in the event

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Speaker 16: that one should emerge and nature.

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Speaker 9: But what we see and we present the evidence of this,

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Speaker 9: and it's.

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Speaker 16: Very clear, is that it was actually these chimeric coronaviruses

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Speaker 16: that Barrick and his colleagues at the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

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Speaker 16: this was actually the causative agent. Fauci knew that he

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Speaker 16: played a considerable role in concealing the origin. At the

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Speaker 16: same time, as head of the NIAID, he was working

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Speaker 16: with Maderna to create the vaccine against it. So it

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Speaker 16: reminds me of when I was a boy. A friend

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Speaker 16: at night breaking sprinkler heads, and then he would present

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Speaker 16: himself at the homes of these people with broken sprinkler

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Speaker 16: heads and say, hey, I noticed that your sprinkler head's broken.

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Speaker 9: You know I could repair it for you.

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Speaker 16: Or somebody breaking glass and presenting himself the next day

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Speaker 16: saying I could repair your window. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 16: rather crass way of characterizing it. But this is the

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Speaker 16: racket that we elucidate in our book, and I think

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Speaker 16: the reader will be surprised yet how clear the pay

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Speaker 16: per trail is on this. It sounds like a remarkable

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Speaker 16: thing to say, but the evidence is clear.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's exactly right. And people need to

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Speaker 1: understand that. You know you're being sold this, you're being

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Speaker 1: sold this, and you're being told in many cases.

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Speaker 3: And I remember that, I remember the times.

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Speaker 1: Right, you couldn't go here, you couldn't go there, We

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Speaker 1: couldn't take our kids out anywhere in the DC area.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't go on airplanes, you couldn't do all of

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Speaker 1: these things. We couldn't travel, right because you didn't take

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Speaker 1: the shot. Well, I'm proud to say that I didn't

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Speaker 1: take it, My wife didn't take it, my children have

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Speaker 1: never taken it, and they will never take it. But

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Speaker 1: to go back and understand the orthodoxy where this came,

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Speaker 1: and to just have it completely by the way, an

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Speaker 1: objective look at what was successful, what was not, and

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Speaker 1: what this has turned into.

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Speaker 3: It's never really been done before.

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Speaker 1: So John, I'm so impressed that the fact that you

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Speaker 1: were putting this story out now, and man, people need

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Speaker 1: to people like me who still have a huge ax

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Speaker 1: to grind with doctor Fauci, and the fact that pardon,

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Speaker 1: which is totally illegitimate, needs to be overturned.

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Speaker 3: You got to get this book.

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Speaker 1: Tell people again the title and where they can go

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Speaker 1: to get it up.

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Speaker 16: The title of the book is Vaccines, Pathology, Ideology and Reality.

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Speaker 9: It's just out.

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Speaker 16: It's already got over one hundred Amazon five star customer reviews.

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Speaker 16: Best place to find it is on Amazon. Dithering around

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Speaker 16: with bookstores. The managers of bookstores are still somewhat relaxant

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Speaker 16: to stalk this kind of book.

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Speaker 3: We will certainly be checking that out, Jack or Zioweck

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Speaker 3: right back, Jack is a great guys.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 3: You don't get it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Prosobick. We are back here Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to talk about an incredible deed fraud

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Speaker 1: scheme that actually targeted home down in Houston that's now

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Speaker 1: been breaking wide. Here's the story. We've got a clip

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Speaker 1: word we'll show you right now.

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Speaker 11: An's a volt back in.

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Speaker 3: Charles and Ronald Kelly are speaking out.

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Speaker 17: In twenty seventeen, they inherited their late father's home with

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Speaker 17: other relatives.

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Speaker 3: They shared these videos of.

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Speaker 17: Growing up in the home their dead probably owned since

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Speaker 17: the sixties. In twenty nineteen, when they decided to put

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Speaker 17: the house up for sale, the family attorney said, what

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Speaker 17: happened next was unimaginable.

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Speaker 18: They were approached by local fraudster and real estate mogul

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Speaker 18: Jerry Gurley. They received a.

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Speaker 3: Poor offer from him, and they declined.

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Speaker 18: Unfazed, Jerry Gurley, with the help of his notary, forged

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Speaker 18: all six signatures of the family members onto the deed,

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Speaker 18: filed into the property records, and with the help of

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Speaker 18: the corrupt and now defunct Patriot Title Company, sold it

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Speaker 18: to a bona fide third party purchaser who bulldozed their

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Speaker 18: home down.

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Speaker 17: The home is gone, with it generations of family history.

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Speaker 17: Court documents show a judgment finding Gurley civilly liable in

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Speaker 17: this case and ordered to pay the family two hundred

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Speaker 17: thousand dollars, but they say they have not seen a penny.

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Speaker 17: That's why they're now asking Houston police to pursue criminal charges.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, folks.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we've been talking about for weeks and

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Speaker 1: months here on this program. Just happing done in Houston.

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Speaker 1: But thankfully Natalie Domingez is here to walk us through

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Speaker 1: ways that not only that this takes place, but ways

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Speaker 1: that you can protect yourself, your family, and your loved

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Speaker 1: ones for having it to deal with this.

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Speaker 3: Natalie, how are you, hi, Jack?

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Speaker 19: I'm really good.

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Speaker 3: How are you? So?

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for so long. We've got

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Speaker 1: home title lock dot com, we've got promo code posts.

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Speaker 1: So but people keep telling me this, this could never happen,

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Speaker 1: This would never happen.

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Speaker 3: Boom, walk us through what exactly happened here?

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Speaker 1: How is this? How is this person able to do so?

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Speaker 1: Do this this criminal actress? Clearly a priminal act but

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Speaker 1: do it so easily?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, as you saw in the video. So this guy

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Speaker 19: was a real estate mogul. He's been doing this for

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Speaker 19: over a decade. For the record, he's been accused of

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Speaker 19: doing this not just to this one home, but to

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Speaker 19: multiple properties, and I from what I understand, there is

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Speaker 19: a current investigation going on. The crazy thing is, you know,

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Speaker 19: this guy came up to them, offered to buy their house,

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Speaker 19: give him a low ball offer. One thing that we

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Speaker 19: always tell people is be very careful when you're being

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Speaker 19: approached by real estate companies, real estate agents. One thing

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Speaker 19: that we see constantly with this type of fraud is that, unfortunately,

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Speaker 19: we're seeing a lot of people in the real estate

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Speaker 19: industry with this knowledge and with this understanding of how

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Speaker 19: it works my personal opinion, and you know, obviously I

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Speaker 19: can't prove this allegedly. I don't think that he ever

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Speaker 19: intended to actually purchase their home. I think he was

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Speaker 19: using this as a way to get personal information from

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Speaker 19: them about the homes history, a lot of that you

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Speaker 19: can find online. But how much easier is it to

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Speaker 19: actually go through this process of fraud when you have

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Speaker 19: a little bit of the background information. So we're seeing

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Speaker 19: a lot of these people in this industry, they're using

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Speaker 19: their knowledge of how easy this is to do and

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Speaker 19: then commit this fraud right, And then all it took

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Speaker 19: was him getting a little bit of info from the family,

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Speaker 19: a little bit of info you know online about the

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Speaker 19: house and who owns the property, walk into a county

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Speaker 19: office with a piece of paper signed notarized. You can

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Speaker 19: get a fake notary stamp, you get a real notary

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Speaker 19: stamp online for like twenty thirty bucks, file it with

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Speaker 19: the county, and then on record you are now the

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Speaker 19: owner of that home or whoever's fake name you put

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Speaker 19: it in. And then what happens is, let's say you're

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Speaker 19: going to go take out loans or in this case,

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Speaker 19: what this man did was sell it behind their back.

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Speaker 19: It doesn't matter if they're still technically legally the homeowner

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Speaker 19: on record with the county. When a title company does

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Speaker 19: a search and they're looking to make sure that you

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Speaker 19: are the owner of the home to give you a

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Speaker 19: loan or to secure a sale of the property, they're

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Speaker 19: only looking at that document that is on record with

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Speaker 19: the county. And that's the scariest part of this. There's

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Speaker 19: a little to no authentication to file this paperwork, and

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Speaker 19: then it becomes this giant legal mess to onlind think

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Speaker 19: it took this family they're still in process, what four

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Speaker 19: or five six years to get this all, you know,

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Speaker 19: finally where it's at right now, very easy to commit.

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Speaker 1: So and we're looking at this too that when you

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Speaker 1: look at it and it's basically and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: I want to tease this out a little bit, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about people who are in the industry. In some

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Speaker 1: cases not everyone, obviously, but in some cases, people who

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Speaker 1: are in the industry who understand how all this works

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Speaker 1: will participate in these schemes because they've got the inside

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Speaker 1: knowledge of actually how easy it is.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, I mean we have multiple I mean when I

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Speaker 19: say multiple, I mean I get these reports every single day.

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Speaker 19: It's part of my job. We have multiple reports from

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Speaker 19: the DOJ's office that are talking about these rogue title companies.

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Speaker 11: A lot of.

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Speaker 19: Real estate brokers, real estate agents, people with knowledge in

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Speaker 19: the industry, I believe. On your show, I've talked about

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Speaker 19: a community organizer in Detroit, Michigan, who was taking advantage

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Speaker 19: of her constituents right whose home she was actually supposed

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Speaker 19: to be helping them stay in, and then behind the scenes,

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Speaker 19: her and people in her office were taking advantage and

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Speaker 19: selling these properties behind their back. So a lot of

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Speaker 19: people with industry knowledge. Matt Cox, who you've had in

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Speaker 19: your show, the criminal that went to prison for this

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Speaker 19: for eleven years and thankfully is reformed, but he was

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Speaker 19: the same thing. He was a mortgage broker. That's literally

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Speaker 19: how he started doing it and then ended up on

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Speaker 19: the run from the Secret Service for three years. Millions

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Speaker 19: of dollars in proud.

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Speaker 1: So as as wild as this is it and it

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Speaker 1: goes through when people think like it can't happen to us.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously you have to do stuff with your home.

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Speaker 1: People need to take out loans, they need to do

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Speaker 1: all the all the rest. But with it what are

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Speaker 1: some steps that people could take just to understand how

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Speaker 1: that these teams are out there, or even with understanding

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Speaker 1: it that they could get some kind of protection someone

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Speaker 1: walking over their back to say I don't want this

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Speaker 1: to happen to me, or certainly not, you know, God,

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Speaker 1: did anyone? And I have to By the way, can

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Speaker 1: I just step back for a second here, because even

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Speaker 1: before I ask that question, it's just occurred to me

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Speaker 1: that AI. I have to imagine that if AI is

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Speaker 1: able to start making phone calls like this, you can

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Speaker 1: use you could use AI.

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Speaker 3: And this is me just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Spitballing here clone somebody's voice, and then you can even

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Speaker 1: have that person sound like they're the ones making the

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Speaker 1: phone call. And suddenly that adds a whole other layer

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Speaker 1: of this out there. And I can think of another variety,

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Speaker 1: and you could even have criminals. It could be overseas

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Speaker 1: doing this.

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Speaker 19: Yep. Absolutely, it's it's a multitude of things, right, I mean,

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Speaker 19: think about it. We're getting scammed every single day, We're

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Speaker 19: getting My dad literally yesterday said to me, I get

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Speaker 19: fifty phone calls a day, scam calls. I don't know

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Speaker 19: about you, guys, I do too. I get them all right.

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Speaker 19: It makes my job a crazy. Yeah, it's horrible, but

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Speaker 19: like you were talking about, you know the steps you

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Speaker 19: can take. Absolutely AI has made everything a thousand times

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Speaker 19: worse because now it's just so much easier. And I

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Speaker 19: think especially in this post COVID world where everything is

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Speaker 19: available online. I mean, you can sell your house online

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Speaker 19: without ever meeting a buyer in person, without everything a notary.

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Speaker 19: There's I believe it's Florida, Florida. I believe during COVID

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Speaker 19: and it's still going on. You can get something notarized

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Speaker 19: without even seeing the notary in person. There's a checkbox

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Speaker 19: on one of the sections of the notorization like approval

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Speaker 19: area that says that they know the person so they

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Speaker 19: don't need ID to notarize it. And that was that

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Speaker 19: was a side note. But that's wild to me that, like,

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Speaker 19: so someone could just check that boxx totally.

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Speaker 1: Look look, look, look I'm looking at the time and

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Speaker 1: I and I really I actually this is so interesting

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to get into it with you. I'll have

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Speaker 3: to book you for a longer time because this is

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Speaker 3: so interesting. But folks, Yeah, the the solution is out there.

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Speaker 1: The cure is out there all right, And no, it's

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Speaker 1: not like anything we're talking about in the last segment.

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Speaker 1: It's actually just a service called Home Title Lock. Use

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Speaker 1: my promo code promo code post so at home title

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Speaker 1: lock dot com you get your free title history report

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Speaker 1: retrial of their million dollar triple protection.

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Speaker 3: And what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: One D four to seven monitoring your title, alerts to

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Speaker 1: any changes and if anything does happen, they'll spend up

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Speaker 1: up to a million dollars to fix it. Natalie, that

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Speaker 1: is a great offer.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, you lock your doors, you have security systems, monitor

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Speaker 19: your property title.

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Speaker 1: It's really as simple as that. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: God bless have a great weekend, Natalie.

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Speaker 19: I mean gues Thanks Jack, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: Take care folks. Yeah, this stuff is real.

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Speaker 1: And with AI and the scam calls we did, we

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Speaker 1: did a whole show on it the other day.

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Speaker 3: Tariff the call centers.

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe if we tariff the call centers, but

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Speaker 1: that could actually stop any instances of this as well

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Speaker 1: that are coming from overseas. Think about it, It might

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Speaker 1: actually work. Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission.

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Speaker 1: Who lay ashore