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Speaker 1: Previously on Once Upon a Con, I start calling every

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Speaker 1: single person David Bloom ever introduced me to to warn them,

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Speaker 1: like you called.

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Speaker 2: Me, probably like in the week when we came back

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Speaker 2: from France and you asked me. I think, did you

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Speaker 2: give him money?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I asked.

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Speaker 2: You, and then I said yes.

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Speaker 1: French chef Vincent san Marco is the latest David Bloom victim.

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Speaker 1: I uncover he was.

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Speaker 2: Insisting and he was saying, I'm going to make so

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Speaker 2: much money. So I started giving ten k, and then

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Speaker 2: the sol house come in.

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Speaker 1: I give twenty k, and then David does something that

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Speaker 1: I don't see coming at all.

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Speaker 2: He's pathologically He's a psychopath, like a real psychopath.

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Speaker 1: I'm Caroline de Morey, and this is Once Upon a

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Speaker 1: Con episode seven, jumping through hoops like circus animals.

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Speaker 2: The date of giving me back some money was coming in.

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Speaker 1: Chef Vincent san Marco gets real lucky in a weird

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Speaker 1: kind of way when he gives David Bloom thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to invest in some bogus IPOs. David uses that

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Speaker 1: money to move into the Villa Carlotta and introduces Vincent

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Speaker 1: around to everyone. As this amazing French chef. He's opening

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Speaker 1: a restaurant with a few weeks later. Some of the

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Speaker 1: quote profit from those IPOs Vincent invested in is due

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Speaker 1: and to keep Vincent believing it's all real, and to

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Speaker 1: prevent him from outing David to everyone at the Villa Carlotta,

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Speaker 1: David is backed into a corner.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't give me back the money, you cannot continue.

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Speaker 2: I got most of it back, and right, it's a

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Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme. So basically, I'm sorry, but I got your

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Speaker 2: money back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably got my money. Yeah. What Vincent is

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Speaker 1: saying here is that the twenty thousand dollars David Bloom

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Speaker 1: gave him back probably came out of the thirty five

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Speaker 1: thousand he scammed from me. But at the time, in

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Speaker 1: Vincent's mind, David wasn't actually returning his money at all.

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Speaker 1: So hold on, so hold on. So it's not that

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Speaker 1: you caught him and he was going to give you

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Speaker 1: your money back because he was scared of being in trouble.

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Speaker 1: It's because he was giving you back parts of your investment.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Wow, he basically was giving me like at least

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Speaker 2: like seventy percent of my pre investment has a returnal

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Speaker 2: investment and keeping the rest to invest in something else.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. So that's why that makes so much

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Speaker 1: more sense.

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Speaker 2: Why when I think about it after, I say like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he was really trying to make me believe still so

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Speaker 2: he can continue to do that on other people.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so you thought you were making money?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 3: Deal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Can the restaurant as well?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Next week my lawyer is going to take you to

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Speaker 2: the restaurant. And like, can I ask you?

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Speaker 1: Did I blow this up for you guys? Or was

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Speaker 1: it already blown up?

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Speaker 2: I mean you did blow it up for us, like

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Speaker 2: you called me and you asked me. I think, did

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Speaker 2: you give him money?

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Speaker 1: After my phone called a Vincent? He texts David asking

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Speaker 1: about the rest of his money and oh about that

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Speaker 1: restaurant they're going to be opening together soon.

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Speaker 2: So I text him like, so, what's up? What are

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Speaker 2: we doing? So he told me he sold the building?

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Speaker 1: Mmm, sold the building. Vincent is reading now from his

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Speaker 1: last Tech conversation with David Bloom from August twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So I say, what the fuck, man, you sold when

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Speaker 2: you were still telling me we are going to get

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Speaker 2: the keys. This is unrealistic.

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Speaker 1: After doing some quick research in a restaurant trade publication,

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Speaker 1: Vincent figures out David is lying he never really owned

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Speaker 2: That was owned by a Japanese group and opening a

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Speaker 1: And did you ever hear from him again?

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Speaker 2: No? Ever, never, ever, never ever ever ever.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So how did you feel when you found out

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Speaker 2: I mean I knew it. I should have known. I

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Speaker 2: was stupid, That's the way I felt. You know that that? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I should have known. What did I do it?

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Speaker 1: Well? Vincent did what victims of con artists rarely do.

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Speaker 1: He reported David Bloom to the police. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: out ten grand, not to mention the myriad opportunities he

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Speaker 1: And after getting scammed, Vincent goes down an internet rabbit

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Speaker 1: hole like I did, reading everything he can about David

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Speaker 1: Peter Bloom.

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Speaker 2: I think he's pathologically sick because that's how he lives.

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Speaker 2: Since he's eighteen years old.

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Speaker 1: He was born this way.

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Speaker 2: He was born this way. He comes into your personal life,

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Speaker 2: and he comes into your intimity, and you open him

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Speaker 2: do some research on him, Like you can't see that

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Speaker 2: his first scam was his parents and his grandmother. He

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Speaker 2: starts scamming the people at the college he went to you,

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Speaker 2: So he's pathological. I mean, this person is sick. He

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be in his streets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. If he's going to do it to his

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Speaker 1: parents and his grandmother, we never stood a chance. It's

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Speaker 1: been nearly two years since Vincent went to police and

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Speaker 1: David's still not been charged with a single crime.

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Speaker 2: I feel yeah, like you say, I've bondone by the system.

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Speaker 2: You know that the good doesn't go at the end

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Speaker 2: of the movie in the Sunset on his horse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that. I totally understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think David Bloom will listen to

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Speaker 1: this because he's that obsessed with himself. So knowing that

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Speaker 1: David Bloom is probably listening right now, what do you

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Speaker 1: want to say to him?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Really, no, there's nothing to say nothing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hope the American system is going to

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Speaker 2: put you away. He should be deserving. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you should go to prison. I think it should be

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Speaker 2: in a crazy house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, forever. I'm beginning to realize that David Bloom

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Speaker 1: was a cancer at the Villa Carlata. Through asking around,

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Speaker 1: I find out that David scammed several of my neighbors,

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Speaker 1: but not everyone is comfortable talking about it out of

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Speaker 1: shame and embarrassment, and I admit I was scared to

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Speaker 1: go public with this at first too. I was worried

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Speaker 1: how it would affect my Pizza Girl Pasta Sauce company

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Speaker 1: and my reputation as a CEO. But then I realized

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Speaker 1: my silence is exactly what David Bloom wants, and I

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Speaker 1: refuse to give that to him. At this point, I

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Speaker 1: know for sure there's another woman who lives across from

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Speaker 1: me who says David Bloom tricked her out of seventy

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Speaker 1: me that David got another forty thousand from him, all

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Speaker 1: using the same ruse an IPO investment opportunity. So David

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Speaker 1: is totally comfortable scamming his neighbors, scamming his family, scamming

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Speaker 1: his friends, and even scamming his own wife. So it

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Speaker 1: shod not come as any shock that he also scammed

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Speaker 1: his employer.

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Speaker 3: First, he was doing great at work. He rammed himself

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Speaker 3: up to a point where he was making about fifteen

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Speaker 3: my company.

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Speaker 1: That's David Bloom's former boss. Who will call Harry because

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Speaker 1: he wants to remain anonymous. Remember the credit repair company

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Speaker 1: David Bloom said he owned, Well, Harry actually owns it.

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Speaker 1: But David was one of his best employees.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't conning clients. He really loved the company. That's

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Speaker 3: one thing a lot of people there said, is you know,

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Speaker 3: as much of a sleeves ball as he turned out

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Speaker 3: to be, he really did love my company, really did

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Speaker 3: work hard. Like everybody that worked around him knew he

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Speaker 3: wasn't some slimeball just conning clients. He wasn't lying to

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Speaker 3: the clients, or he wasn't scamming anybody. He was just

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Speaker 3: great at his job. He just it wasn't enough, Like

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Speaker 3: something about that to him is just not enough, like

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Speaker 3: a cheater. I guess like you could have a great woman,

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Speaker 3: a great life, but just have this addiction that you

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Speaker 3: just it's never enough, you know, That's what it seemed like. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why did just do your job and make you were

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Speaker 3: making fifteen grand a month salesman, why not just do that?

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Speaker 3: Do you get a contact for him?

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Speaker 1: My god, it's.

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Speaker 3: Never enough for something like that. See when somebody's used

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Speaker 3: to making millions off for free, for just robbing people,

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Speaker 3: taking advantage of them. I think it's just it's almost

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Speaker 3: like an addiction.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eighteen now in Los Angeles. David's wife, Nancy

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Speaker 1: is trying to divorce him. He's been fired from his

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Speaker 1: job selling advertising on bus benches, and he's looking for

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Speaker 1: new opportunities and new marks, and he finds both at

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Speaker 1: Harry's Credit Repair Company. What does your company do exactly?

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Speaker 3: We work with lenders and realtors all across the country

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Speaker 3: and help clients of THEIRS that have issues preventing them

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Speaker 3: work on solving issues that fix their credit or raise

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Speaker 1: Find and on one morning back in twenty eighteen, David

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Speaker 3: He walked in off the street. So I happened to

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Speaker 3: at seeing it for hiring. So I went up and so, oh, hi,

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Speaker 3: nice to meet you. And he seemed clean cut, well dressed,

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Speaker 3: a meeting with him. It was sort of like an

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Speaker 3: impromptu interview, right. That was the first impression, and he

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Speaker 3: immediately starts bragging about himself. He's you know, he's a

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Speaker 3: duke grad. And I worked at this other credit bare firm,

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Speaker 3: top salesman, top salesman ever walked. I used to sell

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Speaker 3: billboards on the side of benches, you know, the ones

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Speaker 3: And I made that company, rattled off all these millions

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Speaker 3: he made them, and they screwed me out of my commissions.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I left is because I was entitled

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Speaker 3: to blah blah blah money. And he was really adamant

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Speaker 3: it's hard to not believe him.

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Speaker 1: Did you like him?

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Speaker 3: Well? He was likable because you know. He was very

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Speaker 3: well spoken, very articulate, well matter of fact, you know, confident. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I see you guys your credit repair. I was just

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Speaker 3: working over here, literally a blah blah blah and the

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Speaker 3: knew because the guy that owned it was sending me

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Speaker 3: came in, he said, I'm working. I used to work

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Speaker 3: Are you hiring? And so I was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well we are hiring, especially somebody that's already in the

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Speaker 3: if you're as good as you say you are, I'll

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, his numbers just went through the roof.

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Speaker 1: I'm on David bloom as this amazing salesman making nearly

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what it starts to tell you the story

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Speaker 1: And David's made up association with all these important people,

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Speaker 1: Legit, you know, but it wasn't legit. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: The mayor thing lasts about six months, and then right

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Speaker 1: But all that hoop jumping was just enough to distract

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Speaker 1: So Harry gives David forty thousand dollars to invest, and

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I start getting a

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Speaker 3: Because they think he was scamming other people and giving

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Speaker 1: this is the outgoing message I hear, Hi, this is Parry.

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Speaker 2: And a message I'll get back to you as soon

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Speaker 1: I was immediately shocked by how similar that voice sounds

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Speaker 1: This sounds great, products likely worsted, align with our values

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Speaker 3: You know, Terry was with me for ten years.

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Speaker 1: I still kind of feel bad for Terry in a

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Speaker 1: way because I'm like, he got sucked into something. Did

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Speaker 1: he ever explain to you what happened.

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Speaker 3: He never did. Well. He did tell me that David

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Speaker 3: had told him he needed a favor. It was I

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Speaker 3: remember exactly how he explained it because I got Terry.

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Speaker 3: I recorded Terry, and I took that to the police.

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Speaker 3: I confronted Terry at first. I went to the police

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Speaker 3: right after all this happened. I went to there and

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Speaker 3: filed my own report. When I talked to the lady,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to confront my employee and

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Speaker 3: fight out if he really did this and what happened?

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Speaker 3: Can I record him? I actually asked the lady first

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Speaker 3: the cop if I could record Terry without him knowing

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Speaker 3: about it first, because I wanted to get that evidence

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Speaker 3: so I could get something to handle them. And she said, yep,

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Speaker 3: as long as it's not in a bathroom or some

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Speaker 3: other thing, you can pretty much record people anywhere, you know.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay. So I had laid my phone

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Speaker 3: on the counter in my office, called Terry in there,

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Speaker 3: imagic confronted him like, hey, Terry, you know this is

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Speaker 3: what's going on. I've heard this, this and this. Did

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Speaker 3: you do this? He was like, you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: something I knew what was going on. He kind of

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Speaker 3: danced around it. Like the way he made it sound

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Speaker 3: was he didn't know what he was doing, but he

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Speaker 3: knew he was doing something David needed him to do.

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Speaker 3: I even said, like, how could you do that and

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Speaker 3: not know you were doing something wrong? Right? Yeah? He

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Speaker 3: also did you know? I said, did you know?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure ask him, did you know you were

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Speaker 3: pretending to be the president? Yes?

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 1: I have the recording. He actually said, Hi. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: and David's like, ac ac if you look up a C. Gallow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I watched a bunch of his Ted talks

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Speaker 1: and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Terry tried to I think Terry knew he was caught

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Speaker 3: at the time, and so he didn't know he's being recorded.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, he kind of didn't want

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Speaker 3: to lose face with me because he's been with me

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Speaker 3: for ten years at the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so.

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Speaker 3: I was like, didn't his answer didn't sit.

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Speaker 2: Well with me?

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Speaker 1: What could you possibly say?

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Speaker 3: Is a reason he made it sound like David wanted him.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember it something to do with getting

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Speaker 3: like a contrary. It was something helping David out as

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Speaker 3: he described me like he was helping David out and

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Speaker 3: then when I told him it ruined this person's life,

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Speaker 3: like you do understand what you did, Like this is

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Speaker 3: what really happened. He was in shock, so I don't

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Speaker 3: think Terry knew the full extent of what he did.

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Speaker 1: That recording Harry made confronting Terry back in late twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one was submitted to police as evidence, but ever

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Speaker 1: since Harry got a new phone, he can't find it

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Speaker 1: to share with us. Regardless, Harry promptly fired Terry after

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Speaker 1: that confrontation. I'm sorry, that's so hard.

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Speaker 3: That was the hardest thing to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm like wondering if like David even cared about what

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Speaker 1: he did to Terry, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: he lost his job of ten years. He you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially could go to jail if anything ever surfaces. Like

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Speaker 1: it's just does David even care at all?

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Speaker 3: If he cared about that, he would have cared about you,

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Speaker 3: or cared about me, or cared about everybody canned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'll just never stop. We reached

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Speaker 1: out to Terry to ask why on earth he would

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Speaker 1: pretend to be a sea gallow in David Bloom's scam.

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Speaker 1: He emailed us back, saying, in part quote, hekay screw

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Speaker 1: me over, cost me thousands of dollars and got me fired.

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Speaker 3: I'm a frickin idiot and makes me sick.

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Speaker 1: After sharing what I uncovered about David Bloom with my

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Speaker 1: neighbors at the Villa Carlotta and with several other victims

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Speaker 1: he scammed, we have a series of meetings to figure

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Speaker 1: out how we should move forward. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 1: a bonafide con artist living amongst us and something needs

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Speaker 1: to be done. So late one Sunday evening in September

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, a group of us who are

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Speaker 1: mad as hell, quietly tiptoe up the stairs and down

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Speaker 1: the hallway to David Bloom's apartment at the Villa Carlotta

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Speaker 1: with iPhones in hand recording. We knock on his front

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Speaker 1: door and what do you know, he actually comes out.

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Speaker 3: To talk to us. David, how are you.

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: We're right here.

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Speaker 1: Next time on Once upon a Con, I apologize to you.

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that to me when I thought

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Speaker 1: we were friends?

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Speaker 3: We are friends?

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Speaker 2: Well, but what did you gain from that?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? What was the perfect?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: I almost loved everything everything. It's time for David Bloom

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Speaker 1: to face the music. But will he weasele his way

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Speaker 1: out of this one too?

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Speaker 3: I can use the company that is fifteen years I've

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Speaker 3: worked with the Dot Company.

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Speaker 4: Can you lose your company?

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Speaker 3: How couldn't I? You're committing crimes, so you all have

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Speaker 3: your money back.

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Speaker 2: There's no trust anymore.

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Speaker 4: It has to happen now.

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