WEBVTT - BestOf 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.640 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.640 Sports Radio Basketball. Last night Mike Grizzlies rolled the Warriors 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.799 one thirty four to ninety five without John Morant and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.560 Golden States still up three games to two. We'll talk 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.680 about that coming up. The Bucks. I watched this happen. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.959 It's one of those where you're watching, you're going the 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.720 Bucks are going to win this. They were down, they 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.400 were down by fourteen, there was like ten minutes to go. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.880 Yannis goes for what felt like an easy forty and 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.240 the Bucks up three games to two, and that one 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.280 has to hurt for the Boston Celtics. They heat seventy 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.559 six ers Game six Sons at the MAVs. That'll be 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:46.199 Game six coming up tonight. Very few players who you 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.879 can probably put a team on their back in the 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.960 NBA playoffs down through history. Very few players. Jannis is 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.440 one of them, and last night we saw that Bucks 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.000 up three games to two. And it's no secret he 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.960 is his superstar, but sometimes you watching, you forget just 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.280 how good he is. The Celtics came into that series 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.560 the hottest team in the NBA, an incredible turnaround. Since January, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:13.240 they had played a stifling defensive scheme against the Brooklyn Nets, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.320 kind of embarrassed the Nets and move forward and everybody 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.160 thought with that defense, no Chris Middleton with the Bucks, 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.839 well they'll be able to shut down the Greek freak. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.680 He's averaging over twenty eight a game in the series, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.120 and he also plays very good defense. And last night 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.800 it was just enough. Sometimes when you have the better player, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.840 the best player, the superstar, that can be the edge 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.360 in a playoff series. Here's how it sounded on the 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.920 Milwaukee Bucks radio network. Smart dribbles into the front court, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.280 loses the basketball, holiday comes away with a steel Have 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.000 the Bucks have stolen one? Here at TD Garden and 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:57.200 Foston mess a stunned house. Watch us on as Milwaukee 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.559 climbs from fourteen down in the second half to take 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.680 the one ten to one oh seven victory. You're up 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.560 five little over four minutes to go. Marcus Smart, the 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.480 defensive player of the year, gets stripped, blocked and stripped 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.800 by Drew Holliday twice back to back plays. It was 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.080 the small things that helped them. Offensive rebounds with Bobby Portis. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.800 But this is a resilient Milwaukee team and Boston gave 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.000 them just enough of a chance to be able to 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.680 come back and made them pay. The fourteen point lead 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.840 with ten minutes to play, the largest blown fourth quarter 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.560 lead by a Celtic team in the playoffs in more 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.920 than twenty five years. You know, the Grizzlies and the Warriors. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.080 There was no drama there whatsoever. Memphis had one hundred 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.760 nineteen points through three quarters. That's the most points in 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:55.639 an NBA playoff game after three quarters since nineteen eighty seven. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.160 Stat of the Days, stat of the Day, past out 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.160 of the day, stat of the day? Du comes that? 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:09.480 What stat of the day? All of our Status of 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.840 the day brought to you by Panini America, the official 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.760 trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Yes, Paulie, one 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.800 thing that stood out when Marcus Smart gets the ball 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.680 at the very end and he's going for that layup 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.480 and it looks like he had a decent shot before 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.680 Drew Holiday blocked it. But the one thing you've always 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.800 said is I want to get the ball out of 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.280 the star player's hands on defense, and if I lose 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.720 with a second or third tier player, Marcus Smart might 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.400 be the fourth or fifth option on offense. I'm assuming 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.000 it's Tatum Brown and then Al Horford and you know 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.040 it was just a great play. But you always say, 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:39.320 if I can get the ball to the other guy 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.760 the star's hands, that's a win, Yeah, because that guy's 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.800 not used to taking that shot being in those situations. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.760 Jason Tatum is used to taking those shots, being the guy, 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.000 the go to guy. And Marcus Smart did not have 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.720 a couple of He had a couple of bad series 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.320 back to back there and it cost him as the 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.520 Boston Celtics lose a game at home and you have 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.680 games coming up tonight. By the way, let me go 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.160 back to Memphis and Golden State. So the game is 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.600 over at a halftime basically, and then you know, it's 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.400 one of those great Popovich moments. It feels like it's like, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.320 all right, so what we get beat by fifty? Who cares, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.400 it's just a loss. Let me take my guys off 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.400 the floor. But if I'm a Memphis fan now, I 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.520 don't know if you get John Morant back, I think 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.359 they're still holding out hope that maybe Jock could somehow 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:30.240 play you force a game seven. Draymond Greene seemed to 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.920 be having a great time, and you know, the Grizzly 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:38.080 fans are really excited. It's an impressive performance and they 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:43.280 sent Golden State back home. Everybody's dancing. Then then Draymond 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.880 Greene started dancing. Here is Draymond talking about why he 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.880 was enjoying himself. You know, one thing I don't respect 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.240 is people who only who only bring it when they 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.440 win it. You know, embrace crowds when you win it. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.360 We call those from runners, not front runners. You know 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.360 we got our ass kid. Yes, all right, it happens, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.640 but you don't be a front runner. You know, when 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.559 when when you spew it out you got you gotta 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.120 be willing to take it and not hire from it, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.680 not duck frum and not run from it. Embrace it. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.560 So I appreciated the crowd tonight on energy that they 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.320 brought to the game. You know, if if they want 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.719 to strict, we're gonna whoop them together. So if I'm 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.840 a Memphis fan, I'm like, wait a minute, shouldn't Draymond 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.520 be bummed out or something? Here? It almost felt like 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.719 Draymond saying, hey, I don't blame you. You guys should celebrate, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.400 but the series is over and when it goes back 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.400 to Golden State, just sorry, I just want to let 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.919 you guys know. Yeah, whoop it up, come on, have 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.080 a great time, and this will be the last time 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.240 you see your team. Yes, Paul, I saw some people 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.680 criticizing Draymond Green, like you should be more upset about 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.240 the loss. I'm like, man, I love that kind of confidence, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:57.920 like we're gonna get one of these next two. It's 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.600 it's a choice by us. Yes, Seaton series is way 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.080 closer though than that. Yeah, because Memphis could have won 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.520 the last game at Golden State that lost by three 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.120 the first the first game of the series was one 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.479 seventeen to one sixteen, second game one oh six to one. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.120 On one third game the Warriors blew them out one 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.760 forty two to one twelve. But the next game the 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.520 Warriors only won by three. Those are all really close games. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:28.120 Does anybody want two pies to one odds Memphis? Seaton 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.760 does Memphis? What Memphis to win the series? Memphis to 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.000 win the series? Yeah, so that would be if if 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.800 Seaton wins by taking Memphis, the other person would get 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.000 two pies. If Seaton loses, he only gets one because 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.320 he's taken such a big underdog. Yes, Piot, I'm in. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.440 I'm in. Does anybody want a piece of the pie. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:51.080 Take that. Okay, So you have Golden State losing this series, yes, Paulie, Yeah, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.880 I'll take the Warriors. I'm gonna go out a limb 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.120 here and go with the Warriors. I like it. Well, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.600 I think you know that's me, mister mister Vegas, mister Vegas, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.440 mister taker wild Man. That's a good bet. That's a 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.680 good that sounds like something Fritzie would do. He go, oh, well, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.840 I'll take Golden Stage. Technically the Grizzlies have more regular 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.880 season wins. Technically they do. They had a better regular 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.040 season record. There, let's pull question we're gonna go with. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.040 We got some options for you, Dan, Okay, one, how 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.760 about would you rather blow a fourteen point lead in 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.800 the fourth quarter to lose or get blown out by 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:30.680 forty oh One team was dancing at the end of that, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:36.320 the other one was crushed. So I would I think 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.640 that loss with the way it ended for Marcus smart 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.320 I mean that that's that's gonna stay, that's gonna hurt, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.600 that'll leave a mark, and that last play is a 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.120 very mean worthy where Marcus Smarty gets his pocket pick. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:55.880 But I would still love to have an acting coach. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.800 Look at athletes when they're trying to make something and 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.640 just just see how good they are. You know, maybe 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.760 stunt men look at that, like how convincing is that 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.520 when you fall that way, when you react that way. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.320 I remember they used to have microphones underneath the backboard 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.400 when I was growing up, and you would hear everything 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.080 on the floor, and you know, guys who would go 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:21.800 to the hoop and that you would just hear this 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.800 blood curdling scream and I thought, godly, they're really hitting 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.840 people hard. And you know, I'm like ten years old. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.560 I'm going, man, they're hurting people in there, and you 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:38.199 realize these guys are just trying to draw a foul. Yeah. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.160 By the way, we've been talking about the Hall of 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.240 Very Good. Drew Holliday, the point guard. He seems like 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.000 he could be the starting point guard for the NBA 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.839 Hall of Very Good. He's got the perfect resume. He's 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.560 always has averages about sixteen points and seven rebounds. He's 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.800 never led the league in any category whatsoever. He's always 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.080 been a starter, so he's never been like a bench guy. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.880 And he also has been in only one All Star Game, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.640 which puts you in a very good category Hall of 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.600 very Good Drew Holliday. Also, his name is confusing to 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.520 look at and say and spell, which makes him it 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:15.320 hurts his stardom. Threw Holliday, great two way player, always 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.439 a great addition to a trade, always a very good 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.000 Like all right, we'll throw in Drew Holliday. Okay, all right, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.680 now we're talking. I remember saying when they made that 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.320 trade and the Bucks got Drew Holiday, And I remember 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.520 coming in that morning. I go, hey, he's a great 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.000 two way player. And then Seaton goes what And I go, know, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.520 he's a great two waycause nobody knows Drew Holliday. I said, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.520 I do. He's a great two way player. And so 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.760 I'm always kind of reminding myself whenever I watched Drew Holiday, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.240 good or bad. But I came in like I'm the 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.760 biggest Drew Holiday fan in the world. Hey, great two 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.160 way player. Can you be a great two way player 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.760 but not be a great player? Oh? Like multi talented 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.240 but not great at any Yeah, Like Drew Holliday is 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.480 a great two way player, but he's not a great player. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.640 It feels like that should be an award actually, like 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.520 similar to the sixth Man or something like the greatest 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.760 best best two way player. Yeah, yes, John, you probably 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.600 couldn't refer to them as a great two way player 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.679 and then not acknowledge that he's a great player. You 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.440 have to kind of call him a very good player. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.439 Maybe he would be a great player if he'd only 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.320 played one way. Oh it's that a too uh. Al 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:30.160 Horford was kind of quiet last night, wasn't he Traditionally 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.520 he is, Yes, very quiet. I like Drew Holley. One 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:38.160 of his nicknames is the Druth. When he started playing, 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.839 he made they got that name. I've learned that in 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.800 a while. This program brought to you by Stifle. We 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.560 all have different ideas about success. We achieve it at 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.480 different times in different ways as we strive to reach 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.160 our financial goals. Can't afford to make mistakes, so or 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.160 go it alone? Invest in your success, Invest with a 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.920 Stipele financial adviser, Stephile Nicholas and Company Incorporated Member SIPC 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.840 an n Y see and are there any other poll 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:06.000 questions there? Sure? How about this one? Genie Buss should 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.360 take the opinions of Hall of Fame basketball players and coaches, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.800 or ignore everyone and do what she wants. Wow? Bill 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.920 Plashky had to sit down with Genie Buss. They had 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.280 an hour long lunch and she doesn't do many interviews, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.240 but this one she talked about sort of the state 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.000 of the union with the team. We'll talk about some 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.880 of her comments coming up. Age seven seven three d 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.720 P Show email address dpat dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.000 handle a DP show. We reached out to one of 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.000 my former bosses, John Skipper, used to be the president 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.360 of ESPN. I figured that I wanted to get his 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:48.439 thoughts on how does Fox monetize Tom Brady? How do 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.280 they get their money's worth out of Tom Brady the 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:56.079 media acquisitions that are going on, because it's going crazy now, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.959 I guess it's it's probably leveled off. I'm trying to think, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.160 think if there's anything else out there, maybe a Sunday 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.280 ticket with direct TV in the NFL that feels like 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.959 that's ready to change hands as well. But we'll talk 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.760 to John joining us. Coming up in an hour from now, 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.760 Steve Sands from the Golf Channel will join us to 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.720 talk about what exactly is going on on the PGA Tour. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.280 Tiger and Phil will be at the PGA Championship. But 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:28.280 it feels like the future. The PGA is right now 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.000 getting really really interesting thanks to Greg Norman starting this 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.440 Saudi backed golf tour, and people think this is going 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.760 to be like events in Saudi Arabia or around the world. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.320 There's four events in the United States now. They're going 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.559 to start out in Europe. But you got some of 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.079 these players who are dipping their toes there into you know, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.000 bigger money pool and some of the big names are 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.120 going to do it. But we'll talk to Steve SAMs 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.520 about that at what it means for the tour now 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.080 and moving forward. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.840 Show podcast. 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We spent a lot of 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.800 time talking about Tom Brady joining Fox eventually when his 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.120 career was over, and we thought the numbers might be 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.640 twenty to twenty five million dollars a year, and then 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.160 you realize Fox is bringing him in as a brand 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.320 ambassador and also to do color on their football games. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.840 And I thought John Skipper one of the brightest people 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.400 I ever encountered in my career, former ESPN CEO president, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.719 and he's now the co founder and CEO of Metal 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.640 Arc Media, working with Dan Lebotard and John, thanks for 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.320 joining us. Your reaction when you first heard the news 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.000 that Fox was going to offer that kind of money 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:18.240 to Tom Brady, I have to confess my first reaction 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.800 was not about the money, but about potentially how well 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.360 Fox played this right. Everybody was surprised that they let 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:32.400 Joe Buck and Troy Aikman go. Troy Aikman was surprised 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.160 that they had not even really been in touch with 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.880 him about it, and I think perhaps this explains it right. 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.400 They planned all along that they were going to get Brady. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.160 I have no idea if that's right, by the way. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.840 But that's the first thing I thought is, Wow, look 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.720 how well they played this. They they're going to get 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.680 the goat into the booth. How do you hide something 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.640 like that, John, I have no idea, though I am 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.440 here somewhere in the Midwestern Witness Protection program, so it 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.800 is possibly keep secrets. And look to your first point, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.920 it is a lot of money, and it raises the 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:16.680 inevitable question how you justify spending quite so much money. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.880 It's not because of ratings. It does not have any 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.440 effect on the ratings, and I've never had anybody show 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.960 me any data to dispute that. This is more about 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.080 just what you were talking about, Pride a brand ambassador. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.280 Gee will take our important advertisers by the booth to 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.800 see Tom Brady. Gee. I suspect he will see him 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.760 at the upfront presentations at some point in not too 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.920 distant future, so you can make a justification for it. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.920 But it's not about ratings or because more people will watch, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.680 or even because it will be a better or worse broadcast. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.760 It's just about the jazz of having Tom Brady. But 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.640 also I was wondering, and it seems like an obvious 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.000 question and John. But I don't think many people are 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.280 asking is Tom Brady gonna be any good as an analyst? 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.600 I'm not sure it matters other than there'll be a 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.840 little bit of embarrassment. Looks he's a smart guy, he's charming. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.240 I'm assuming he'll be that. To me. The interesting the 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.160 judgment of whether it's gonna be any good? Is he 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.680 going to provide insight? They can provide insight and a 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.440 number of things right. One of them is and Tony 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.040 Romo gets credit for being spectacular about this, right, which 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.240 is insight into what play is going to be called, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.880 why it's being played. I think Tom will do pretty 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.720 well there. The other insight you want is what is 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.120 it like? What are the players like? Who's a good guy, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.160 who's a bad guy? Is Tom Brady really going to 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:49.960 be willing to say anything controversial? I suspect he will 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.560 be carefully. He's a very guarded guy. Right. If you 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:57.160 think about the life he leads and how he manages 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.280 the information that comes out of his mouth, he's pretty already. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.240 I don't think he's going to be controversy. All the 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.840 things to be provocated, he won't be any Charles Barkley right, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.360 And that's what you like, is somebody who's fun, insightful 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.000 that you want to sit with, so he'll be okay. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.320 I don't think it'll be a disaster. We talked about 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.560 this a couple of weeks ago. Charles Barkley might be 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:25.720 the most valuable member of the sports media, right you agree, Yes, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.120 I do. And I think there's only three or four 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.320 people in the history of broadcasting who you genuinely can 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.800 say that people tune in to see them. Right. The 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.320 late great John Madden, who recently passed, was one of 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.640 those guys. Barkley right now is the guy in all 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.760 of sports you can say people will turn in to 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:54.000 see him. Did you try to get Berkeley at ESPN? Absolutely? Absolutely. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.560 There's almost nobody who's really really good. We didn't try 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.359 to get. The biggest issue at ESPN was and you 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.280 know this, so we'll have a little fun with this, 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.600 is ESPN wants you to work to down mark. We 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:11.640 were we were, we weren't willing to pay. I'm once 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.200 you remember talking to Shaq, who's a very good guy, 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.120 very friendly, and I tried very hard to convince him 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.440 you don't want to be the second field of Shack 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.359 I'm sorry to Charles. Come over to ESPN. You'll be 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.080 the star. And he said, I already talked to Charles, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.239 and Cheryls said, all I gotta do is show up 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.480 and I don't have to rehearse that. I don't have 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.960 to be on Sports Center. I feel first take. I 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.000 don't have to be on PCI. I don't have to 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.800 be on NBA Countdown. I can just work, come in, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.639 sit down and chew it up. And so, yeah, it 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.040 was hard to get him. I remember talking to Barkley. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:52.600 Barkley said, hey, ESPN is interested in signing me. And 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.880 I said, well, let me tell you why you shouldn't 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.680 do it. Where you're gonna have to go every day 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.119 or every other day, or you know you're gonna have 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:03.840 to be on ESPN Radio, you're gonna have to be 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.920 on you go through the car wash there. You gotta 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.440 known the weather is going to be an issue. You 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.960 go through the car wash there. And I said, you 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.920 could do that, or I'm gonna guess TNT is just 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.720 gonna say, hey, just show up and that's got some fun. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.880 And he said, yeah, this shouldn't be a hard decision. Yeah, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.400 he's right, And we knew we were operating with that disadvantage. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.000 Of course, the other worked for us because we had 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.520 so much programming to film, We needed guests and we 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.320 and we cared a lot about getting our money to work. 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.080 So yeah, it's the disadvantage that I do not blame 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.480 Shack or Charles. They're a city where they should be. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.560 By the way, let me say another thing, Dan, which 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.520 thank you'll agree with. For all the worrying about preparation 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.480 and all, the best show in some ways the best 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:55.080 sports studio show and all of sports is that Charles Barkley, Shaq, 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.480 Kenny Smith, Ernie Johnson's show. And it's because they looked 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.080 like they're having fun, they know what they're talking about, 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.720 they're willing to be provocative, they're willing to to mash 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.600 it up. And uh, it's great. Well, john you're saying 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.120 it right to my face that that's the best studio show. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.280 And I thought that I was part of the best 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:17.040 studio show. I mean, were you were part of the 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:24.560 best sports information studio shows? Not the Game Today pre 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.359 and posts and halftime show actually make that distinct. Okay, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.359 all right, fair enough the Manning cast. Where are we 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.639 going with imitators? With the Manning Cast in your opinion, Um, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.960 I think Manning Cast is trifically entertaining what we're what 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.320 we're doing is pretending that everything in the booth is great. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:46.040 We're doing the game the way we should do it. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.480 So if we're gonna have fun or we're gonna not 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.080 call every play, it's got to be an alternative broadcast. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.600 I personally think it's it's a funny attempt to get 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.560 actually different voices on the game, who aren't just calling 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.800 third and eight and they turned around to hand the 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.560 ball off. But every I think what will be interesting 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.280 is when somebody does that in the in the first booth, 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:13.600 not in an alternative booth. Oh okay, so you're tuning 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.480 into that game and this is the game, it's not 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:22.040 alternative programming. Yes, huh okay. Yeah. I tried to do 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:27.560 that one time with Tony Kornheiser and the football gods. 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.399 The football gods were bailed. It was a little like, uh, 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.639 you know, when Paris took took Helen Detroit, all of 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.920 the football guys sent their forces in ships across the 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:47.440 Wine dark Sea and tried to execute Tony. What's the 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.840 craziest idea? You almost succeeded with at ESPN that you 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.639 were going to try. Do you remember anything that was 0:21:55.400 --> 0:22:00.120 outside the box? I think I think that Tony Corners 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.520 of the biggest example, right, we were trying to interject 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:08.480 into a booth comedy and different kind of flavor and 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.240 it did not work. Bubbay. Tony did great work. It 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.560 wasn't bad. It just there wasn't an overall general acceptance 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.399 that that was the right way to go. So I 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.399 and let me stipulate too, I didn't produce a lot 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.080 of football games, so it's possible. I don't know what 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:30.359 I'm talking about. He's John Skipper, the co founder and 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:34.880 CEO of metal Ark Media with Dan Lebotard, former president 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.399 of ESPN. Give me a sport that you would invest 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.119 in right now if it was a stock aside from 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:46.080 the NFL. You got another sport, sure, and I did. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.440 And in this case I just said, you know, I 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.440