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Speaker 2: Is your boy big still along with? And you know what, man,
Speaker 2: we got some very important people in here tonight.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 2: You know I was asking you early if your boy
Speaker 2: rich because I know he like all the super duper
Speaker 2: messy ship man. We got the homeboy man, Tristan Physic
Speaker 2: is up in here tonight, man, Steve Love. So it's
Speaker 2: just money man, just chilling, so twisting you down there
Speaker 2: in New Orleans shooting some stuff.
Speaker 4: Right now, Yes, sir, actually band rouge, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: in Louisiana right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We said, man, you stay working. You gotta be the
Speaker 2: most work working actor in the whole motherfuckering United States.
Speaker 1: Dog h shit, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: It's a couple of us, man, we are here in
Speaker 4: the ground for shure man trying to trying to get
Speaker 4: it out the mud as they say.
Speaker 2: Man, that's a blessing man and me being from the Midwest, Man,
Speaker 2: I think it's an incredible job man, that everybody is
Speaker 2: doing down there. Man, just really just taking over the
Speaker 2: just independent movie game. Thank you, brother. I appreciate that
Speaker 2: when you first started going to your journey man, that
Speaker 2: you think it'd be a big Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did. I most definitely thought. I can't I be.
Speaker 4: I would be remiss or a lie to say if
Speaker 4: I didn't think it would be this big. I'm just
Speaker 4: waiting for for uh my dreams to catch up to
Speaker 4: reality because my mind is it was as much bigger.
Speaker 4: But I just know it takes time and it don't
Speaker 4: happen when when you wanted to, What happen when it's
Speaker 4: supposed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. That's real, man. And your characters, Man,
Speaker 2: are always somebody like real, memorable man like I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna front Man. You play the most fucked up niggas
Speaker 2: work man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Man, But playing the most
Speaker 4: fucked up nigga, as you say, it gives you more,
Speaker 4: uh more nuances to play with as an actor as
Speaker 4: opposed to being somebody that's square or that's just you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, that they don't have there's no
Speaker 4: there's no real art to them. But with a a
Speaker 4: person that's that's a villain, you get, you get to
Speaker 4: put you get, you get so much of a variety
Speaker 4: of variety, of of of range that you can play
Speaker 4: with this person, you know what I'm saying, And you
Speaker 4: don't have I'm not saying that this person don't have
Speaker 4: no morality, but the morale his the reason why he
Speaker 4: do things is you know what I'm saying, it might
Speaker 4: be a little bit off kilter as a normal person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's real. Man. Let me ask you this man,
Speaker 2: has it ever been a character so messed up that
Speaker 2: she was like, No, I don't know if I want
Speaker 2: a fool with this?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Steve Ball, just having played some ship that
Speaker 4: I was, I was like, man, I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: But honestly, man, a lot of even though you know
Speaker 4: these characters be fucked up, I think these characters stories
Speaker 4: be told because it's somebody out here that's really that
Speaker 4: person in life, and it could be a cautionary tale
Speaker 4: for somebody else.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So even though these people
Speaker 1: are fucked up.
Speaker 4: Individuals, there's really somebody out here like that, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And me as an actor, I gotta
Speaker 4: figure out why I need to tell this story through
Speaker 4: this character, and I can't judge the character at the
Speaker 4: same time, you know what I'm saying, because you know,
Speaker 4: in a real world, we are not perfect, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I love not playing these people
Speaker 4: that that that are flawed people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, that's real, Steve, O, that's Sam. You
Speaker 2: always playing a fucked up ass character too, man, A
Speaker 2: crooked ass police officer some other those shit man. And
Speaker 2: what's crazy is y'all your personality ain't nothing like it
Speaker 2: is on movie?
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: If y'all ever noticed, man that usually the people who
Speaker 2: play the fucked up characters in the movies is really
Speaker 2: the nicest people in real life.
Speaker 5: They said about all.
Speaker 2: That's what it is, Steve. What was the first movie
Speaker 2: you shot down? There?
Speaker 5: N trust nobody in probably one.
Speaker 2: Trust nobody, probably one. So you kind of just hit
Speaker 2: it right off the rip.
Speaker 3: Then that's the I meetrician like that.
Speaker 6: So where where do you get the inspiration for coming
Speaker 6: up with these these stories, these movies.
Speaker 5: Well, trust nobody probably want to tell you truth.
Speaker 3: Man, I was doing a little time right years couple months,
Speaker 3: and I said, if I started and this motherfuckering myself
Speaker 3: a longer time to me started writing. So I was
Speaker 3: writing a movie, a lot of the based off real life.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say what part it was not now.
Speaker 3: So I was really right, you know, to keep myself
Speaker 3: from getting more trouble. And then now when I finish it,
Speaker 3: I made the golden myself say when I get out,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shoot this. So every time I did a
Speaker 3: little town here and there, I did something and be like,
Speaker 3: i'll get out if I'm gonna come back, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do something like for myself. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I'm better than what I am. I ain't gonna be
Speaker 3: in here, and I know a person like I am there.
Speaker 3: Every time I get out, I make a gold At
Speaker 3: one time with the jail, I seen a Z in
Speaker 3: the magazine with a big ring.
Speaker 5: I got out just to make that ring and never wear.
Speaker 5: So I put throwing myself all the time.
Speaker 3: But I was sitting there right, Trust nobody, it was
Speaker 3: about five pages Man Handwrich movie.
Speaker 5: I'm I was gonna do it.
Speaker 3: The crazy part about it is, you know I did
Speaker 3: it twenty years before, shot to.
Speaker 5: About almost twenty years and shot the movie when I
Speaker 5: wrote it twenty years before I shot it.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. So how long do it typically make you? Like,
Speaker 2: how long do it typically take to put a movie together,
Speaker 2: like a script and all that from script to shooting
Speaker 2: and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3: For me, it just takes depends on what I'm writing, Like, uh, y,
Speaker 3: I can write something like thirty forty days.
Speaker 5: I think something might take you three or four months.
Speaker 3: Uh shorts every shot of movie by than four days,
Speaker 3: which unfair exchange it came out grade.
Speaker 5: And but most people do it like ten days, the
Speaker 5: ten days mark. Yet it's just.
Speaker 1: Gonna bey on me.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's about I tear fifteen days. You
Speaker 3: want a real good silid movie with some real good
Speaker 3: solid to make it right, I would say do least
Speaker 3: ten days, yeah.
Speaker 2: For sure. And with the stuff on to be man,
Speaker 2: they really too be seemed like it really don't resonate
Speaker 2: it like with the black community.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I think that's for a couple of reasons. First of
Speaker 2: all to be always got the bad two B movies
Speaker 2: as they call them. They always got the baddest bras
Speaker 2: in them, right, they always got the baddest women in
Speaker 2: them and everything and Tris And I gotta ask you this, bro,
Speaker 2: you can't be married doog.
Speaker 1: Hey? Man?
Speaker 4: We look man, just know that. Man, Man, I got
Speaker 4: somebody that's very understanding. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And you know they understand it is what it is,
Speaker 4: is the job at the end of the day. Should
Speaker 4: I come home and you know that's you know, you
Speaker 4: know understand.
Speaker 2: I don't know if my old lady will be going
Speaker 2: for that. Man. Looks like you all be getting it
Speaker 2: in on the movies.
Speaker 6: Man, Oh yeah, you working, You would not be fucking around,
Speaker 6: You would not be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your wife is not happening. My wife would be.
Speaker 7: Like that might get down like that down like.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just from sleeping out side.
Speaker 5: He told me, right, and gotta change the kid.
Speaker 2: Doing that too, crazy man like church being something like
Speaker 2: that in the church.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he can't. No female presidents allowed or out here.
Speaker 6: You know it's curtains like a motherfucker. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: A siting that they're talking knowing he can't do too
Speaker 2: much to different. So let me ask you this. Have
Speaker 2: you ever had a scene that just has you had,
Speaker 2: just has you hill of uncomfortable?
Speaker 7: Old dog?
Speaker 8: I think thing, Yeah, no, man, you gotta be man,
Speaker 8: because I'm gonna tell you, at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: you steal a man, dog.
Speaker 2: And when you got somebody like me and a Moreau.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, she got the you know
Speaker 2: kind of you know what I'm.
Speaker 6: Saying, she got man. You you own it, ain't you?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm on it man, looking like everybody, I'm
Speaker 2: just the art.
Speaker 1: Uh damn be uncomfortable. I think.
Speaker 4: When when two you got too attracted attractive people, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And y'all both kind of easy
Speaker 4: on the eye, I think you know that makes it
Speaker 4: a little bit more easier when you talk about the
Speaker 4: boundaries and stuff that you know, both of y'all may
Speaker 4: or may not have in the beginning. And ship, Man,
Speaker 4: it's other people in the room. It's not like it's
Speaker 4: just an intimate setting.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You got an audio person in the room, you got
Speaker 4: the camera guy in the room. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you know it's not really, it's not really nervous.
Speaker 4: And when you got, like I said, somebody that's attractive
Speaker 4: in front of you, in front of you, it's easy
Speaker 4: to pretend like you like tom.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure you said you're pretending like.
Speaker 1: I just got to say that because I want to
Speaker 1: get to.
Speaker 5: To kick in.
Speaker 1: You get it, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6: Proestionalism just have to kick in, and you got to
Speaker 6: just put what's what with it all in perspective. Man,
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I'm an actor and
Speaker 6: this is a scene. And if I call myself an actor,
Speaker 6: just like an entertain or whatever. Man, at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, you gotta perform. It's what you're here
Speaker 6: to do. So you know that's real.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy nowadays too, because like you said, you
Speaker 2: don't want to get sued. You can miss round and
Speaker 2: be doing them scenes and somebody feel uncomfortable. Man, it
Speaker 2: could all go left real quick, man, and you ain't
Speaker 2: doing nothing but doing what you was kind of told exactly.
Speaker 4: But I think that especially like in our count were
Speaker 4: getting a little bit better with like just coordinating those scenes.
Speaker 4: And just for any other independent filmmakers out there or
Speaker 4: just women out there, as an actor, if somebody not
Speaker 4: bringing some of this stuff to your awareness, or they're
Speaker 4: not asking you certain questions about how you feel about
Speaker 4: your bonds and stuff like that, you should speak up
Speaker 4: immediately because if they're not saying nothing about it, then
Speaker 4: you need to say something about it, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So hell yeah, man, you don't want to
Speaker 4: get sued and you don't want your reputation to be
Speaker 4: mud out here in this in this industry too, because
Speaker 4: people talk, you know what I'm saying, from project to project.
Speaker 5: So m.
Speaker 2: I imagine that you do have to have a certain
Speaker 2: high level of professionalism because I noticed you it just
Speaker 2: did the move flick with the homly Beez and his wife, right,
Speaker 2: and I see BZ down there listening. I think I
Speaker 2: see him down in the corner gets listening. That had
Speaker 2: to be kind of a crazy dynamic because you got
Speaker 2: his wife and there the homie's wife in there most definitely,
Speaker 2: and he over there and shooting. It's like, man, Steve,
Speaker 2: what you laughing for a dog? I'm just saying, it's like,
Speaker 2: you gotta be a different type of person, you feel
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh, that was somebody I was on live on my
Speaker 4: Instagram the other day and somebody asked me, like, what
Speaker 4: was what was like the most uncomfortable say, And that
Speaker 4: was it because I'm sitting there and I do have
Speaker 4: a high respect for Bez and I do have a
Speaker 4: high respect for his wife, Like I came in the
Speaker 4: game with him, so I don't it's hard for me
Speaker 4: to look at her like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She's sitting there pretty much in her you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, her underwear and shit like that, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 4: please can we hurry able to get through the same Bro,
Speaker 4: I'm not even trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to maintain eye contact. Bro, I don't you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't.
Speaker 4: Bro, when you are real, when you a real one, bro,
Speaker 4: and your man's woman is around you, damn, don't even
Speaker 4: look in her eyebro A real I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to make face kind of eye
Speaker 1: contact with your lady.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's just that's just the
Speaker 4: type of guy him. So I really wanted to hurry
Speaker 4: up and get through that thing. Like you said, A
Speaker 4: like a certain professionalism has to kick in and You're
Speaker 4: an actor and you here to perform, So no matter
Speaker 4: how comfortable it may seem, it can't come off like
Speaker 4: that to the rest of the audience.
Speaker 2: So you really had to get in your acting back. Definitely,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That's crazy as hell. Man. I noticed that
Speaker 2: with people out here, man, especially with the public. Man,
Speaker 2: the lines kind of get blurred between with reality and
Speaker 2: what's fiction. Do you ever have people coming to you
Speaker 2: in the street man is answer you just the most
Speaker 2: just crazy shit dog man.
Speaker 4: I at least at least four or five times, da
Speaker 4: I gotta ask Mike, why you kill that baby? Why
Speaker 4: you kill that girl? Why you do that?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 4: Man? I love it. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it because you found the spot. You burned
Speaker 4: the spot in their brain. You know you hope you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You hold living rent free in
Speaker 4: somebody's head.
Speaker 1: So I love it. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't get mad at him, and I let him have
Speaker 1: a moment.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because at that point too,
Speaker 4: when you let him have a moment, now you got
Speaker 4: a fan forever.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They cherished that, they hold
Speaker 1: on to that moment. You know what I'm saying. From
Speaker 1: movie to.
Speaker 4: Movie to movie, from project to project to project, they
Speaker 4: carry that moment with them as you grow in your career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Scott the Ruck, probably one of the coldest
Speaker 2: villains in the history, is just villainism. Man, Meggan's got
Speaker 2: to make up a word for it. He was so
Speaker 2: cold man out the Rock at the party, he killed everybody, man,
Speaker 2: killed the cousin he was messed around with, killed the
Speaker 2: little kid, and everything else. Scott the Rock was a
Speaker 2: cold character man. That had to be just. I know
Speaker 2: what was you thinking when you first saw that script?
Speaker 4: Man, I think, Man, I'm about to have some fun
Speaker 4: painting this picture. You know I'm about to have because
Speaker 4: it was it was like I said, being a good
Speaker 4: guy you have you have to stick to your morals.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You got this rule, Brick that you have to stick
Speaker 4: by when you a bad guy, there is no rules,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you just and you
Speaker 4: through throughout the whole movie, you justified at the end
Speaker 4: why you're doing what you're doing. So I earned my
Speaker 4: right to kill motherfuckers and I earned my right to die.
Speaker 4: So that's my whole thing. Throughout the movie. I'm earning
Speaker 4: my right to die. So when you see me kill myself,
Speaker 4: I earned that right, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 4: just went like, why the fuck this nigga killed itself?
Speaker 4: You see how the fucked up shit I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you was on one for real. And you
Speaker 2: know what was cold?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 2: Your little son man got a future man because he
Speaker 2: played the hell off that part.
Speaker 1: Man, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found out that was your son. Is he
Speaker 2: starting to get a lot of work now?
Speaker 4: You know what that it's not a lot of roles
Speaker 4: for him right now, but I have a one that's
Speaker 4: spot like that's like fifteen years old, and he's been
Speaker 4: in a couple of colored movies too, and he's getting
Speaker 4: a lot of roles.
Speaker 1: Actually getting ready be in Steve Wan and Steve O projects.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. And you know, I got to float it
Speaker 2: back to you, Steve O. One thing about it. I'm
Speaker 2: from Cleveland originally, man, and I came out here in
Speaker 2: California in eighty eight man, because it really wasn't a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of opportunities just back at the house. But
Speaker 2: now y'all don't kind of change that because it seemed
Speaker 2: like most of the work, especially for us as black people,
Speaker 2: is coming up out of there right now. I think
Speaker 2: the biggest problem out here with us being in Hollywood
Speaker 2: is everybody kind of looks at the way Hollywood does
Speaker 2: stuff with the big budgets, and they kind of look
Speaker 2: y'all kind of went and did the impossible. Y'all need
Speaker 2: to happen right now, man, And I ain't been back
Speaker 2: to the crib in a minute. Man, is it just
Speaker 2: exciting out there right now?
Speaker 3: Going back to you thinking about back to like with
Speaker 3: master ping and Mike John put up the DVDs movies
Speaker 3: and independent movies. So it's back to that way, less
Speaker 3: spend less money. It still costs a lot of money,
Speaker 3: but with just digital it's making it a little easier
Speaker 3: than you have to go get the reels and all that.
Speaker 5: So it's back back in them days us. Yeah, it
Speaker 5: was getting You know.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about that is when usually people start
Speaker 2: doing really well and something, everybody just think it's easy.
Speaker 2: It's like when you remember everybody started becoming gangster rappers
Speaker 2: when they started parking with rep Gangster reps started parking
Speaker 2: in the nineties everybody started putting out records definitely.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're just making access and then you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of ship that people came.
Speaker 5: Going back to the Hollywood ship.
Speaker 6: They really don't like a lot of independent directors, producers, whatever.
Speaker 6: You know, it's one of those games that they try
Speaker 6: to keep you out of. But like he said, now
Speaker 6: being able to you know, connect with these networks because
Speaker 6: they see the value in it. You know, it's something
Speaker 6: that you know, a lot of niggas can contribute to
Speaker 6: if you got the right mind state and come up
Speaker 6: with the good storylines. Because you know, we as black people,
Speaker 6: we like to see some realism on our level, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, being a motherfucking bad boy and driving through
Speaker 6: the streets and ferraris and action gunshots. You know, that's
Speaker 6: not you know, that's not a normal nigga's reality sometimes,
Speaker 6: you know, so just to be able to see something
Speaker 6: that depicts some normalcy around like I know a nigga,
Speaker 6: like you said, I know a nigga around the corner
Speaker 6: like that, that's get So these movies remind niggas of being,
Speaker 6: you know, in normal settings and shit that they can
Speaker 6: relate to. That's why I think, you know, it's getting
Speaker 6: as popular as he is and shit with the movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely resonating. It's definitely resonating. I know Detroit
Speaker 2: is popping and Steve O you and Milwaukee and they
Speaker 2: even got some brothers in Cleveland right now just putting
Speaker 2: together fields and stuff like that. I think it's dope, man.
Speaker 2: I think it's just giving a whole bunch of our
Speaker 2: people opportunities that they otherwise might not have got. Like
Speaker 2: back in the day, Tristan you that had to come
Speaker 2: out here to La or go to New York something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: I'm still coming out to La though.
Speaker 2: I love Yeah, but you're starting to pop up in
Speaker 2: a lot of mainstream stuff from now too though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you was in the bm F joint and all that.
Speaker 2: You know, you definitely know, man. When I was telling
Speaker 2: the homies that I was having you on here, they
Speaker 2: were just like, damn, you gonna have more to ask
Speaker 2: this ask And I said, I ain't gonna ask to
Speaker 2: home you all that crazy shit, but he gonna be
Speaker 2: on there, y'all check it out, you know what I mean? Yes, sir, Steve,
Speaker 2: what was one of the biggest roadblocks you had?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: When you first decided he was gonna do these movies
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: As the music that I had a lawyer called Dance Stewart.
Speaker 3: I think it was the lawyer. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I Dan Stewart back in the days. And like
Speaker 3: I was doing the music, you know, I had a
Speaker 3: song called in my product cook Cap and man, I
Speaker 3: was just trying to get in and get in and
Speaker 3: get in, and I just couldn't get into that a fucker
Speaker 3: deal with Tommy Boy. But you know it was, you know,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. But I didn't even want
Speaker 3: to go that route no more, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And especially I'm in the liquor game too, and it's
Speaker 3: just like, I mean, you're tinting so much money.
Speaker 5: I'm just like, I'm not gonna keep going this route.
Speaker 3: Man, I want to stay independent and count all minds
Speaker 3: and see all minds. So I said, like they said,
Speaker 3: it's like you go through the line gates, you go
Speaker 3: to the uh these big platforms and try to get on.
Speaker 3: They don't want to ship invest into you, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, And they don't want to give.
Speaker 5: You pennies for your thoughts.
Speaker 3: So I was like an artist, So I found me
Speaker 3: a way pay my own way, and God been good.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know one of the things I ask you
Speaker 2: mentioned the music stuff you had cuckoo cab and stuff.
Speaker 2: Does that ever go on with the movie stuff? The fuckering,
Speaker 2: because you know, we always kind of get caught up
Speaker 2: in there where people don't want to pay. They're not
Speaker 2: doing that with the independent film lis early.
Speaker 3: They'll try you if you'll know no better, you know,
Speaker 3: if you don't stand on them like hit that yells,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Uh, you got some good distributors and you got some
Speaker 5: bad distributis ain't gonna say no dangs.
Speaker 3: So you gotta be real careful and you gotta watch
Speaker 3: your paperwork because like I said, just like in the
Speaker 3: Music Game, now it's streaming the same thing on these movies.
Speaker 3: So you gotta really, you know, hope you get in
Speaker 3: the right reports, you know what I mean, And you
Speaker 3: hope you're getting the right the h I mean add
Speaker 3: ReBs to get out of the chairs getting So just
Speaker 3: like the music games, got some good accounts, some good
Speaker 3: lawyers and uh, and do your research, just like the
Speaker 3: music game. You know, hey, if a motherfucker fuck you
Speaker 3: and find a way they're gonna do it like that.
Speaker 6: I said all the time, if a nigga, if a
Speaker 6: nigga can do and he don't do it.
Speaker 4: And the tricky part about that is too, is when
Speaker 4: you make a deal with these distribution companies, you you
Speaker 4: don't you can't go directly to TWOB and get your
Speaker 4: numbers because they don't have an obligation, uh, contractually to
Speaker 4: give you numbers. So you just got to hope that
Speaker 4: the distribution company that you're working with is giving you
Speaker 4: real numbers or else you're gonna have to start udering people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that costs money right there. That's that's what
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, Tristan. You being an actor, right,
Speaker 2: and I've been in some stuff too, like eight ass
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a SAG member and all that, right
Speaker 2: doing the independent films. Are they starting to give like
Speaker 2: a back end on the stuff too? Because see, you
Speaker 2: got a name now, so I'm pretty sure you can
Speaker 2: go in and kind of demand certain things.
Speaker 4: Some projects, Uh they would if they don't have the
Speaker 4: capital to pay your ransom like you have, some you
Speaker 4: can give you.
Speaker 1: They give you points on the on the back end.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Uh, not too many people offer that, but you know,
Speaker 4: it's something that you most definitely can negotiate. But outside
Speaker 4: of that, there is not there is no no back
Speaker 4: end for real. You get what you what you get paid,
Speaker 4: You get what you negotiate, and then you go home
Speaker 4: and you be happy about.
Speaker 1: It and you go promote that film. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's a lot more today. It's a
Speaker 2: lot more opportunity, especially for cats, Like do you have
Speaker 2: you ever got behind the camera? If you have thoughts
Speaker 2: getting behind the camera kind of doing your own projects.
Speaker 4: So a lot of projects that I work on. Beasley
Speaker 4: is my business partner, you know, we I'm I ain't
Speaker 4: just an actor. I'm an executive producer. Uh so yeah,
Speaker 4: I already got projects that's already out here that that's
Speaker 4: that's that's my own.
Speaker 2: Well that's dope, man, that's real dope.
Speaker 4: So strict, I don't know, I don't know if y'all
Speaker 4: heard the scripts of the scripts executive produced that not
Speaker 4: her husbands and me and a few other a few
Speaker 4: other things that most definitely when I when I got
Speaker 4: in the game, man, I realized right off the bat,
Speaker 4: like if you want some real money out this ship.
Speaker 1: You got to put some money in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, let's do man.
Speaker 3: You can see you know, independent artists just let them know.
Speaker 3: Like if you ain't dealing with a big company, like
Speaker 3: like Trisian said, if you can negotiate it back in,
Speaker 3: that's good. But if you ain't dealing with a real
Speaker 3: big company, all you can't get up front because or
Speaker 3: the person ain't got no financial uh department. You know,
Speaker 3: you know you'll run on your clothes down everything. So
Speaker 3: you know, let me speaking. I mean, you can fight
Speaker 3: for it, get what you can get up front. That
Speaker 3: you can't get it back in good, But I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you like this is the baby, try to get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, what you can get up front, move on,
Speaker 6: and like you said, be satisfied for what you negotiate,
Speaker 6: because whether it's whether the ship go up or down,
Speaker 6: you know, that's your position you in. You know, because
Speaker 6: you like the independent game. A lot of niggas don't
Speaker 6: like to give up a lot or whatever because that
Speaker 6: that that's right we independent, you know. So and then
Speaker 6: with the districts or whatever, you know, they still looking
Speaker 6: at niggas bottom of the barrel. So they gonna try
Speaker 6: to cheap you out which way they go, because their
Speaker 6: job is gonna go be trying to get the money
Speaker 6: from the big networks or the big channel or whatever.
Speaker 6: So you feel me, so you might as well try
Speaker 6: to squeeze the limit as hard as you mother fucking
Speaker 6: can fuck it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, remember and still they still
Speaker 4: independent too, And they and the and and the filmmaker
Speaker 4: is taking the hell of a gamble, man ain't no.
Speaker 4: It's it's a project called Power Money that we did
Speaker 4: and it's probably the most money that we ever put
Speaker 4: into an independent project.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 4: And I promise you, man, we're still in the red
Speaker 4: and we create we made this film. I want to say,
Speaker 4: two three years ago, we're still in the red. We
Speaker 4: still don't you know what I'm saying. We still ain't
Speaker 4: ain't black yet, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 4: a gamble, you know what I'm saying. It's it's it's
Speaker 4: a real gamble with the with these projects. Man, ain't
Speaker 4: nobody guaranteed to like their project once you put it
Speaker 4: out there, up to the to the fan base to
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's always a gamble. And there's so many
Speaker 2: people doing movies right now, Like if you go to Tubby,
Speaker 2: it seemed like it's five hundred new movies coming out
Speaker 2: every week. Dog, you feel what I'm saying, So it's
Speaker 2: allowed to compete against.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the life the lack.
Speaker 4: Of a film, it's almost the same as the life
Speaker 4: of a music video right now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like they they got about a good week or
Speaker 4: so if you don't, you know what I'm saying, If
Speaker 4: you're not constant promoting the marketing your movie, that's the
Speaker 4: life of a movie because like you said, it's it's
Speaker 4: content and the content and the people are consuming it
Speaker 4: way faster than they were years ago.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, man. And it's like because I
Speaker 2: remember when Tubby Tubby has actually been around for a while,
Speaker 2: and I remember when a movie started coming out of Detroit,
Speaker 2: the independent movies I started watching. I was a fan
Speaker 2: of all this stuff really early on, and I remember
Speaker 2: it kind of went from being like right here to
Speaker 2: where it was just like and some of the stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, and I ain't gonna be most of the
Speaker 2: stuff on this most of the independent movies that come
Speaker 2: out of shop pretty well, you got some that's not good.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, everybody out there doing the
Speaker 2: thing man, And I think that's the biggest thing, is
Speaker 2: just putting quality material out there. If you're doing quality material, man,
Speaker 2: because you already kind of got the odds against you,
Speaker 2: so you can't come out what you can't come out
Speaker 2: just doing any old thing. I agree, you feel what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So where do y'all think this stuff is
Speaker 2: gonna go from here? Though? Like, like where y'all think to
Speaker 2: see the game going from here? I just.
Speaker 3: You know, I take like hip hop, if everybody keep
Speaker 3: shooting good quality stuff, uh, supporting each other, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? You know, you know right now as
Speaker 3: you see to me, it was like you said, a
Speaker 3: bunch of us independent acts. But now it's kind of like, uh,
Speaker 3: they put at their own content on their library fox
Speaker 3: stuff and our old movie trying of pushing us out.
Speaker 3: It's just about your movie that'll be hard to find.
Speaker 3: But we keep supporting each other and standing on their
Speaker 3: standing on together coming together them know that we're gonna
Speaker 3: stand together, and no content back for independent Detroitment, Walpie, Cleveland,
Speaker 3: all these blues really to maybe being that Cole is
Speaker 3: to day Black people did that. The fans did that,
Speaker 3: and we stick together expect we don't. They play its
Speaker 3: just like they did Hit Bip.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's gotta be you know, uh looked in
Speaker 6: a positive light. You feel me that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: And and the more the more that you're able to
Speaker 6: do and the more that's able to come out, it's
Speaker 6: you know how they do. You know, when the ship
Speaker 6: starts turning successful, they gonna see the light and then
Speaker 6: that's when the big money gonna come in and they
Speaker 6: gonna give opportunities. So uh, it gotta be nothing but
Speaker 6: an upscale you feel me, like you said, because it's
Speaker 6: a lot of brothers that's now doing this these projects
Speaker 6: and being recognized for these projects. And uh, I think
Speaker 6: it's a good I think it's a good thing because
Speaker 6: first of all, you show motherfuckers that, okay, shit, I
Speaker 6: don't need your budgets and shit, and I rather keep
Speaker 6: shit independent anyway, because sometimes independency can bring you more
Speaker 6: recognition and money in the first place. Now, you know,
Speaker 6: you love to get that one hundred million dollar budget
Speaker 6: or whatever, but they come in due time, you feel.
Speaker 1: Me, I mean, personally, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I love the fact that I love the trajectory of
Speaker 4: where we're going, but I feel like every time that
Speaker 4: we start going up, up, up, up up, they watching
Speaker 4: it looking like, what the fuck? How the fuck can
Speaker 4: we get a piece of it? And how can we
Speaker 4: knock them out of that motherfucker? How can we knock
Speaker 4: them out the box? And I think that and we
Speaker 4: don't find another platform or creating another platform outside of TOUB,
Speaker 4: then they gonna do just that. If we as filmmakers
Speaker 4: continue to make to be originals where we're.
Speaker 1: Not getting.
Speaker 4: A lot of money, especially not even a lot of
Speaker 4: money up front, then they're gonna box us out. So
Speaker 4: we gotta, for one, not we gotta get off that
Speaker 4: TV before we even get on it, and we got
Speaker 4: to figure out other platform platforms and avenues to to
Speaker 4: uh to showcase our stuff too, because I think to
Speaker 4: be they looking at us and they're gonna do the
Speaker 4: same thing. Like I said, they're finding ways to to
Speaker 4: uh exclude us from what's going on. They build it,
Speaker 4: they use us to build up the platform, and then
Speaker 4: they're going to wipe us out.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not gonna do if you're not gonna do it.
Speaker 4: In a minute, I feel like if you're not willing
Speaker 4: to sell your movie to them where you're come to
Speaker 4: them to make a two Be original, then they ain't
Speaker 4: gonna allow your projects to get on their platform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I was saying before I kind of left. Man,
Speaker 2: it's like I saw pretty much Black Centema build Too
Speaker 2: Be and bring an audience over there, right. And you're
Speaker 2: starting to notice now, man, that with the two Be
Speaker 2: your riginals, those are the those are the movies that
Speaker 2: are getting prime play. You feel what I'm saying, They're
Speaker 2: getting prime placement. And you may want to explain to
Speaker 2: the people out there with the original Liss because I
Speaker 2: heard in the original they kind of just give you
Speaker 2: a flat fee and you don't get no row ay
Speaker 2: off of it. But then I heard they don't even
Speaker 2: give you all the bread up front. They make you
Speaker 2: wait for some of the bride. So it don't make
Speaker 2: no sense.
Speaker 4: So what they do is they give you say they
Speaker 4: if they offer you two hundred and fifty thousand for
Speaker 4: your movie, they're gonna give you that over a period
Speaker 4: of time, say every three months, they're gonna give you
Speaker 4: maybe twenty or thirty thousand. And you could have did
Speaker 4: you could have done that your first week on your own.
Speaker 4: You could have did that your first month on your own.
Speaker 4: And so what they do is they take your project
Speaker 4: and they milk the shit out that much like say,
Speaker 4: they put it wherever they you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And the most popular, they make it very visual to
Speaker 4: the audience, and the projects do well. You license it
Speaker 4: out to them and you don't see no money until
Speaker 4: that licenses is over with, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So they gonna milk your project and get the most
Speaker 4: out of it. They didn't give it back to you
Speaker 4: when there's nothing left.
Speaker 2: Wow, So they're paying you to bring it over a
Speaker 2: period of months. You're not even getting all the bread.
Speaker 2: You can't even make a move like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't even like like you say, now I
Speaker 4: got this quarter million dollars, not gonna make me, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, two or three more movies, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's not worth it.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how far you think we
Speaker 2: await man from really having our own platform. Because I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you something I've been trying to do for
Speaker 2: the past three or four years. I've been trying to
Speaker 2: build my own streaming platform, right, because I even know,
Speaker 2: like me, we got like two or three different YouTube channels, right.
Speaker 2: I don't like putting stuff on YouTube. Really, I don't
Speaker 2: really like even messing with YouTube because the money ain't
Speaker 2: really right, you feel what I'm saying. The money ain't
Speaker 2: really right now when you know what you're supposed to
Speaker 2: get paid, It's like there's no way to order that.
Speaker 2: There's no way to see what's really going on on that, right,
Speaker 2: and you can kind of get shadow band on here.
Speaker 2: I just I'm just not a fan of putting my
Speaker 2: stuff on depending on somebody else's platform to make living.
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, how far you think we
Speaker 2: really have our own streaming channel.
Speaker 5: That's the That's the how I did it though.
Speaker 3: While they're winning is until we can come together and
Speaker 3: build a platform that has, like you, ten twenty million
Speaker 3: people on there there. That's why Amazon winning to be winning,
Speaker 3: uh to YouTube winning because they already have a platform
Speaker 3: set with twenty thirty million people there so they can
Speaker 3: charge you whatever because you need that platform. Just like
Speaker 3: back in the days, Reckster you had to go to
Speaker 3: the record store. Yeah, you had this sputure because it
Speaker 3: got access to ship it to all the record stores
Speaker 3: at one time. So we got to get like instead
Speaker 3: of one person trying to do it that My man
Speaker 3: P's was talking with saying some things we leave about
Speaker 3: four or five. Was even with some of the florists
Speaker 3: to come together, build one big platform and bring all
Speaker 3: all your stead if you got twenty million people watching.
Speaker 3: The other time he come to advertisers, it is I
Speaker 3: would get paid and came all the black movies.
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's a tangerous thing, man. You see
Speaker 5: what happened.
Speaker 3: When should they them all try to start up distributions
Speaker 3: for blacks.
Speaker 5: What they did to them? And then whatever is going
Speaker 5: on with uh people.
Speaker 3: Trying to you gotta keep it quiet and we try
Speaker 3: to start something with our own and they don't get
Speaker 3: the more dangerous like that.
Speaker 2: Man, it can get real dangerous man, you see. Like
Speaker 2: like you said, you brought up sugaring them the homies
Speaker 2: from murdering got in, you know, and died it on
Speaker 2: some bullshit. Even though they came up innocent. They all
Speaker 2: their bread was gone. They'd just spend a game of money,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So they definitely don't like
Speaker 2: to hear talk of that, man, But I definitely think
Speaker 2: it is something that can happen now, man, And I
Speaker 2: think it has to be a collective of people. And
Speaker 2: I think we have to get off the mindset because
Speaker 2: what usually has was is everybody wants to start their
Speaker 2: own thing instead of everybody just coming together and pulling
Speaker 2: resources and even you know, the movie people getting with
Speaker 2: some of the bigger influencers and saying, hey, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: gonna put our podcast movies on this platform and this
Speaker 2: is gonna be our thing. I think that's what we
Speaker 2: need to do because we've been building other people shift
Speaker 2: for too long. Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the hard The harder part of that
Speaker 4: is is getting people to put their content on your
Speaker 4: platform and not knowing whether they're going to be able
Speaker 4: to see a return on their investment or not. So
Speaker 4: you're going to have to be able to uh, be
Speaker 4: able to give viewership. So that's what that's the thing
Speaker 4: where any streaming platform, even to get ad dollars, you
Speaker 4: got to have so many viewerships a day in order
Speaker 4: for ads to come to your platform. Now you can
Speaker 4: do private ass Say if you got a homeboy that
Speaker 4: got a company, he got a commercial on stuff like that,
Speaker 4: So you can do ads privately. But that's the biggest
Speaker 4: uphill battle for a streaming a new streaming platform is
Speaker 4: being able to get viewership to that platform. So you
Speaker 4: can't get AD dollars.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's possible, but it would have to
Speaker 2: be something that was real strategy. You gotta think, because
Speaker 2: you have you have some influences out of here, man,
Speaker 2: that are getting you know where from one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand, you know, half a million views, you know
Speaker 2: over a thirty day period.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, you have some people that make movies that
Speaker 2: may get six seven million views there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Obviously, the AU the n C is there because you
Speaker 2: got platforms like to be that kind of was built
Speaker 2: off the backs of those platforms. Now I see them
Speaker 2: doing all kinds of stuff. So I think it's something
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, that can happen, But I don't think
Speaker 2: it's an overnight thing. And I think it's gonna take
Speaker 2: a lot of money. It's gonna take. It's what it's
Speaker 2: gonna take.
Speaker 4: It's gonna take the right it's gonna take the right companies,
Speaker 4: the right person with the right influence and it's gonna
Speaker 4: take a lot of marketing dollars behind, you know, I
Speaker 4: would say, shit anywhere from two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 4: to a half of being to get the right promotion
Speaker 4: behind that platform too. And just the backtrack a little
Speaker 4: bit while we were talking about the toob Originals and
Speaker 4: stuff like that we put out when we put out
Speaker 4: our movies on on TV or whatever, and when the
Speaker 4: movies first come out and people trying to search those
Speaker 4: movies that I can't find it. I can't find the movie. Everybody,
Speaker 4: I can't find it. You got some people who can
Speaker 4: access those movies quite easily. You got some people who
Speaker 4: can access it on their phone, but can't find it
Speaker 4: on their TV. When the twob Are Original comes out,
Speaker 4: it's very ironic and crazy that nobody complains, Nobody saying, hey, look,
Speaker 4: I can't find this movie.
Speaker 1: It ain't showing up here, but it's showing up here.
Speaker 4: That motherfucker is very uh made ready available, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I just had to backtrack on
Speaker 4: that on that On that point too.
Speaker 2: It's always some ship. I can't be rude, man. We
Speaker 2: got the hommy beezy up. What's happening baby, what's hiding?
Speaker 2: What's going on with man? Just chilling?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 2: You know I had to pull you up there. Man,
Speaker 2: I ain't want to leave you in the corner looking
Speaker 2: all lonely and ship dog.
Speaker 7: I was good. I was just listening getting there.
Speaker 2: I was entertain Yeah, Man, you know what, And I
Speaker 2: can come back and ask you. Man, you a cold dude. Man,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. I probably could if I was
Speaker 2: a you know, if I was a director or whatever. Man,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. I think I gotta step my
Speaker 2: game up something. Man, I don't know. If I'd have
Speaker 2: been there to put my wife on the thing, dog,
Speaker 2: I'd have been too jealous. Matter probably wound up trying
Speaker 2: to fire on a homie or something.
Speaker 5: Man, keep born with the white thing. Man, get on something.
Speaker 5: It's about the fourth time you don't mentioned the white man.
Speaker 2: Don't talk, man, I gotta talk with my boy busy
Speaker 2: one year. I gotta ask about a dog.
Speaker 9: Hey, listen, Man, I look at it like this, like
Speaker 9: they they're actors. I'm a creative just like they creative.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: And I let that choice be hers. I let her
Speaker 9: figure out what you want to do. I electrician figure
Speaker 9: out that's something he wanted to do.
Speaker 7: I'm for it.
Speaker 9: We have boundaries, you know, some things that you know
Speaker 9: just didn't happen. But you know, at the end of
Speaker 9: the day, I can't stop her from being a creative.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna be the
Speaker 7: one to pigeonhold her career.
Speaker 2: That's real. Ship man, y'all been hitting into some winners man,
Speaker 2: that script shit as hard as a motherfucker. I told
Speaker 2: you I was a fan.
Speaker 7: Man. I don't know why. I don't know why he
Speaker 7: ain't in there yet. I don't know.
Speaker 5: We need a wax man, y'all.
Speaker 2: Have you.
Speaker 6: Get you to do some ship still, we need to
Speaker 6: get you in the movie man, y'all to get you
Speaker 6: with the professional lesson. Maria is the professions.
Speaker 2: Man, That's what I'm saying, y'all. Try to explain that
Speaker 2: that my wife ain't going for none of that. But
Speaker 2: you know what that we definitely need to get eight
Speaker 2: down in some steps. Wall. I was talking to you,
Speaker 2: I was talking to you, beasy. We for sure got
Speaker 2: to get him on some ship, doog. We gotta put
Speaker 2: some stuff together.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, for sure, we about to start shooting season
Speaker 9: two of Scripts. Man, we needed we gonna were gonna
Speaker 9: give them the name a Wax for show.
Speaker 2: An get Man. You gotta make him, don't get make him.
Speaker 9: Man, that's a classic name. Man, that's legendary for me.
Speaker 5: You can't slide from that.
Speaker 7: Man. No, but you know, I mean we get something different,
Speaker 7: but he got it. You gotta.
Speaker 9: You know it's gonna have it with that big ass
Speaker 9: deed ego again though.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Just don't have my nigga get killed off. Manta lives. Man, Hey,
Speaker 2: did you watch Scripts?
Speaker 7: Did you ever? Suth?
Speaker 5: No, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I still put me on it, and I'm just getting
Speaker 6: on all the two. But I've been watching so much
Speaker 6: shit on too me. Man, it's just so much shit
Speaker 6: on me. It's like and like I said, it's more
Speaker 6: nigga can get interested because it's more in depth stories
Speaker 6: of what niggas look at as realism. Like I said,
Speaker 6: niggas ain't jumping out of Niggas ain't jumping out of
Speaker 6: helicopters and blowing up six story buildings and shit like.
Speaker 6: So it puts you in a perspective of something that
Speaker 6: a nigga can really get into. Because shit, it's realism.
Speaker 6: It's real shit that goes on still in the neighborhoods
Speaker 6: and on these streets, and niggas is still crazy. So
Speaker 6: when you have shit to remind motherfuckers that it's still
Speaker 6: real niggas in the streets and real shit, they're gone.
Speaker 6: It's why I think these movies are blowing up the
Speaker 6: way they are. Hm hm, I agree. It's all my
Speaker 6: niggas talk about. That's all they talk about is the movie. Man,
Speaker 6: have you seen this on tub? Have you seen this?
Speaker 5: Or they got this movie in this movie.
Speaker 6: So it's good to see niggas getting it in, man,
Speaker 6: And you know, it makes you don't do nothing but
Speaker 6: want to contribute to what the niggas path fit.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's all good. I'm definitely interested real
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: You know, whenever we.
Speaker 3: Got like even the Hollywood actors coming back that they
Speaker 3: was just coming out, I got Clipton Pile and oh
Speaker 3: my good to come apart.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he been getting it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah for real. Hey, you know what when we had
Speaker 2: homies on here, man, we like to talk about other
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on in the world too. Man, what
Speaker 2: y'all think about your boy, Drake, Man, did you do
Speaker 2: some suther shit or what?
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna read it. This is this is this
Speaker 4: right conversation for me. I don't think he did no
Speaker 4: such ship man. You don't think so speak okay whenever somebody,
Speaker 4: whenever somebody whenever you okay, you got umg right, and
Speaker 4: you know you got you got two dogs in a fight.
Speaker 4: But whenever you give the somebody else a little bit
Speaker 4: of extra juice and you costing somebody a couple of
Speaker 4: hundred million as the result of it.
Speaker 1: Hell no, ain't no suck ship. That's just how That's
Speaker 1: how I felt about it.
Speaker 2: But you know what, this this, this is the thing
Speaker 2: though though Drake kind of third day ship. He talked
Speaker 2: about the man's wife, said his wife had a baby
Speaker 2: with his homie and all kinds of stuff, so he
Speaker 2: kind of broke that on himself, and the homie just
Speaker 2: hit him with that boot box.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think I don't think that. I
Speaker 6: don't think he's speaking on that call.
Speaker 5: Still.
Speaker 6: What he's saying is why the nigga trying to sue
Speaker 6: you in g And that has to do with him
Speaker 6: feeling like they inflated and they inflated record sales or
Speaker 6: they inflated promotion. I mean, it ain't it ain't. It
Speaker 6: ain't the It ain't about the actual. You know, if
Speaker 6: you beef, and you beef, and that's what it is.
Speaker 6: But if you have a feeling that, Okay, y'all done
Speaker 6: flooded another nigga's market when we're supposed to be two clients.
Speaker 6: But y'all flooded somebody else's market to do more than me,
Speaker 6: and it's done cost me a few hundred million. That's
Speaker 6: what the lawsuit is. Now, do I agree with shit
Speaker 6: like out of as a hip hop artist. As a
Speaker 6: hip hop artist, you're gonna always say it was some
Speaker 6: sucker shit. Not because of them dissing. Because if he
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about your mom or your wife, and
Speaker 6: Kendrick came back and said, that's that's all in love
Speaker 6: and war, you get me, that's not the problem. The
Speaker 6: problem is I'm saying, technically, you fucked with my money.
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck what a nigga said about me.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is you fucked with my bread. Now,
Speaker 6: in the hip hop community, it's gonna be looked at
Speaker 6: his sucker shit because we're supposed to be MC's and
Speaker 6: we caught up in this battle that that's it. It
Speaker 6: ain't supposed to be nothing more than that. You get me,
Speaker 6: I diss you, you dissed me. We keep it going,
Speaker 6: you know because in the long run, the record late
Speaker 6: they taking money off both sides. I don't give a
Speaker 6: bucket this three hundred million off of this shit and
Speaker 6: it's only one hundred and fifty off of this shit.
Speaker 5: They've all making the same bread off of it.
Speaker 2: Now, the house always wins, dog, the house always wins.
Speaker 2: Think about this. Brought some other stuff. When Kendrick left
Speaker 2: TDE where did he go to? He didn't go nowhere. Really,
Speaker 2: he's stayed right there.
Speaker 6: It's like a nigga who holds your contract right and
Speaker 6: and when you sign and you're distributed through a motherfucker,
Speaker 6: they're gonna always put in that stipulation in the contract.
Speaker 6: If he leaves, we get first did at the new contract,
Speaker 6: so you don't go anywhere else. They're definitely as a
Speaker 6: as a distributor, they're not gonna go let him cut
Speaker 6: a deal with another monthy, with someone like a Sony
Speaker 6: or whatever that in house. So if you're no longer
Speaker 6: gonna deal with tde. We just gonna walk you across
Speaker 6: the hall.
Speaker 5: And give you a deal straight up because now.
Speaker 6: We don't so that that's basically they gonna do that.
Speaker 6: That's just like any nigga you sign the contract to, Oh,
Speaker 6: if you don't deal with them, no more, we get
Speaker 6: first DIBs.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing with It's the same thing with
Speaker 4: Drake the University, the same thing with.
Speaker 5: Us to offer first.
Speaker 6: So if your contract is up with Young Mon and
Speaker 6: you're no longer going through Young Money, fine, but.
Speaker 5: We're gonna walk you across the hall and give you
Speaker 5: that deal. We're not gonna let you walk out the door.
Speaker 5: So that that's what it is.
Speaker 6: The house is always gonna win because they got you
Speaker 6: from when you first walked through the door with with
Speaker 6: the with the label you came in with. If you
Speaker 6: ever your contract is gonna be up one day, and
Speaker 6: if you're doing the numbers that we project you gonna do,
Speaker 6: if you ever decide to leave, come on across the
Speaker 6: hall to my office and I'm just gonna sign you direct.
Speaker 2: That's real because they said the boy got something like
Speaker 2: I think what this is with Drake Man, I think
Speaker 2: he honestly making the play to get off that label, man,
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, right now, this is
Speaker 2: the perfect time to be independent.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's like, once you get to a certain point, though,
Speaker 2: the label can no longer really do too much for you.
Speaker 2: It's like, if you're going out there, you getting a
Speaker 2: million dollars a show, you got your own bridge, you
Speaker 2: got your own platform. Pretty much, you don't really need
Speaker 2: them no more.
Speaker 1: But that's just said too.
Speaker 4: They cannot afford to let Drake go independent, nor do
Speaker 4: they want him to get any more money, so they
Speaker 4: like they're trying to fact. That's why it was important
Speaker 4: for them to devalue him, and that was why it
Speaker 4: was important for him to drop that hundred gigs too,
Speaker 4: because that hundred gigs was gonna show one of two things.
Speaker 4: Either it was gonna show that what y'all did devalue me,
Speaker 4: or be dropping this independently and me doing the same
Speaker 4: numbers that I did previously. Why with your help that
Speaker 4: I can negotiate my numbers and get the number that
Speaker 4: I'm asking for. So it's either gonna show that y'all
Speaker 4: devalue me, or I'm still worth what I'm worth, So
Speaker 4: give me my money.
Speaker 6: It's just looked at as a bitch move because in
Speaker 6: the community of hip hop, you don't see a nigga
Speaker 6: because he dished you. You get me, And that just
Speaker 6: goes back to the beginning of hip hop. Niggas have
Speaker 6: battled and niggas have been disrespected and got into it,
Speaker 6: and niggas a motherfucking fistfighter. Shoot you before it come
Speaker 6: down on to me taking you to court and showing
Speaker 6: your record label because you disrespected me. So instead of
Speaker 6: a niggah, instead of a nigga, I guess admitting that,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm probably you know, fucked over the fact
Speaker 6: that the battle was you know, one by whatever. Uh
Speaker 6: he came in on some technical ship. I'm a back
Speaker 6: door and say, you niggas and you niggas inflated numbers
Speaker 6: and y'all did this and that. But unless you got
Speaker 6: a motherfucker who's going to hand you over paperwork showing
Speaker 6: that ship was paid for and yeah they got with
Speaker 6: Spotify and they did this and they did that, that's
Speaker 6: gonna be a hard case to prove.
Speaker 2: It's real hard to prove. It's almost you almost playing
Speaker 2: a dangerous game.
Speaker 5: I tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: Let me.
Speaker 5: Take you something right quick.
Speaker 6: Labels have been hideing and doing shit for decades. You
Speaker 6: get me, and come on, we've went through the town
Speaker 6: infatuate numbers and niggas buying their own records and all
Speaker 6: that type of shit. Shit been going on for thousands
Speaker 6: of years, right whatever, So it's it's gonna be hard to,
Speaker 6: like I said, unless you got a motherfucker who running
Speaker 6: the numbers and the paychecks and they on your team
Speaker 6: and they ready to just give up some shit. It
Speaker 6: seemed like a stupid gesture to do, but I guess
Speaker 6: if a nigga, you know, the quest is to receive
Speaker 6: or get off the label or whatever the technical.
Speaker 5: Move is behind it.
Speaker 6: It's just frowned upon in the community of music because
Speaker 6: it has never been done.
Speaker 5: You get me, you know. But I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 6: You feel me and nigga call you a bitch walking
Speaker 6: out the restaurant. You ain't gonna go and tell run,
Speaker 6: call your lawyer and be like, man, nigga, just call
Speaker 6: me a bitch.
Speaker 5: I want to sue that motherfucker. You feel dog.
Speaker 2: Check this out the same stuff. You remember what happened
Speaker 2: when Puffy got to talk about them white folks, man,
Speaker 2: you saw the position he kind of got put in.
Speaker 2: Right now, Drake is going against the biggest entity and
Speaker 2: the planet of plannet. The ain't nobody even close to
Speaker 2: universal music, right you don't think man? If he get
Speaker 2: the uncovering too much, man, they gonna make him look crazy.
Speaker 2: Because I hope, I hope he don't have no skeletons
Speaker 2: in his closet because I'm gonna tell you in the
Speaker 2: next few weeks.
Speaker 6: They gonna either expose you or pay you off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they might pull somebody's closet.
Speaker 1: They might do both, they might, yeah, because I want
Speaker 1: to tell you.
Speaker 2: Them motherfuckers do not lose, dog, They do not lose.
Speaker 2: Have you ever known somebody to successfully.
Speaker 5: Suit them videos till this day?
Speaker 1: Come on videos.
Speaker 5: The way, everybody.
Speaker 6: If you do some kind of bullshy, man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 6: they gonna either expose you or pay you off. That's
Speaker 6: what they because they ain't got time for no bullshit.
Speaker 6: Nigga were making too much money a day off of everything,
Speaker 6: and we ain't got time for no motherfucker. And they
Speaker 6: probably we like you, dude, we're making money with you,
Speaker 6: so that's why they are already like, man, it's fabricated.
Speaker 6: It is dumb because you don't want to get on
Speaker 6: they bad shot on your fuck who you is?
Speaker 2: No, you don't. Man, I'm gonna tell you what one
Speaker 2: of the homies told me. I ain't gonna give his
Speaker 2: name up and put him out there like that. But
Speaker 2: one of the homies ran distribution for em My back
Speaker 2: in the nineties, right, you knew what he told me
Speaker 2: they was doing. They they would get a recording artist,
Speaker 2: he would have a management team bringing the artists or whatever.
Speaker 2: And they didn't get to do the deal. But they
Speaker 2: knew they won't to ever put this record out. They
Speaker 2: would get a kickback off of that. They would inflate
Speaker 2: the recording budget, records a bunch of bullshit songs, go
Speaker 2: back to the people in New York and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we need some more money. We think we're close to
Speaker 2: having the hit record. And before anybody become any the wise,
Speaker 2: and they don't spend three four hundred thousand dollars five
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on some shit that wouldn't gonna ever
Speaker 2: come out. Dog, So these motherfucker's dog even you think
Speaker 2: about back in the day when they just talk about
Speaker 2: Puffy was doing these million dollar music videos. You know,
Speaker 2: ain't no music hit video on the history of music ever,
Speaker 2: it really costs no million dollars. That's because everybody is
Speaker 2: getting their piece, doog. They're kickbacks. Yeah, we went through
Speaker 2: the kickbacks.
Speaker 6: Nigga, I'm a charge, I'm I'm a charge one hundred thousand,
Speaker 6: and then nigga kicked me back. Nigga fifteen twenty. You
Speaker 6: get that, the kickback shit then going on for a minute.
Speaker 7: That's it, real.
Speaker 5: Shit, as real as a motherfucker. You best believe it.
Speaker 7: I said, happened to me say music video was.
Speaker 6: The one time, Yeah, nigga saying, I'm a I'm gonna
Speaker 6: charge your motherfuck I'm gonna go tell the label. Nigga,
Speaker 6: this motherfucker how much you won't for it? Oh ship,
Speaker 6: Nigga give me thirty, Okay, I'm gonna go tell the
Speaker 6: motherfucking label we need a hundred. And then you kicked
Speaker 6: me back that I'm gonna get you your thirty and
Speaker 6: you kicked me back that Nigga, that ship was going
Speaker 6: on for dangerously.
Speaker 5: That was the thing to do back in my rap time.
Speaker 1: Nigga.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, no, Bsy, Steve over y'all, y'all think about this,
Speaker 2: Triss and y'all do movies right. Where do y'all see
Speaker 2: a music video ever costing a million dollars and y'all
Speaker 2: out there y'all doing movies?
Speaker 9: Assume only one ever thought that probably really would have
Speaker 9: happened was with Bennie Boom and Hype Williams.
Speaker 7: That they probably was closed.
Speaker 9: I think Janet and them and Michael pulled that off
Speaker 9: with that million dollar video. I don't think kickback man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike Williams videos was out the dough nigga.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 7: But they say Goofy spent a million were hype on you?
Speaker 6: Hepe ship. That's why it was certain nigga. It was
Speaker 6: certain budgets you couldn't afford you.
Speaker 2: Nigga.
Speaker 5: Shit, I had a.
Speaker 6: Motherfucking gold platinum record and I still wasn't gonna go
Speaker 6: get no Hype Williams. I already knew, nigga, that chargeback
Speaker 6: is coming to me. I ain't finna go spend no
Speaker 6: five hundred a million dollars on my motherfucking video. Nigga'm
Speaker 6: finna get a nigga, right, on the corner, Nigga with
Speaker 6: a couple of homies and Ship at the motherfucker telephone
Speaker 6: pole parking low rider right there, Nigga. Butt video done, Nigga.
Speaker 6: Twenty thousand and thirty thousand.
Speaker 5: Shit. Niggas didn't understand that ship back then.
Speaker 6: Then that shiit come back to bite you in the
Speaker 6: ass when you ain't seeing no royalty check.
Speaker 7: Because you're paying.
Speaker 3: La spent three hundred thousand, poor started two other slow riders.
Speaker 6: Was stupid ridiculous, right, Nigga, Right now, Ship, she was
Speaker 6: stupid ridiculous back in the days, nigga. And then that
Speaker 6: they didn't give a fuck or you need a million
Speaker 6: here there, gog like this too.
Speaker 9: Though back in the day it wasn't digital too. They
Speaker 9: still was dealing with films.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they was dealing with film back there had the
Speaker 6: whole crews and the grippers and the motherfucking assistance and
Speaker 6: all that shit. Niggas motherfucking videos was looking like movies
Speaker 6: and ship all the cameras and the crew services and
Speaker 6: all that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to get cracking. You know, one thing
Speaker 2: I was gonna tell you, I don't know if y'all
Speaker 2: ran across this catch. I was talking this dude. We
Speaker 2: had put out a movie man probably about like early
Speaker 2: part of last year, right, and we was talking to
Speaker 2: this distributor down on Florida.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say the dude's name whatever, but dude
Speaker 2: was telling us. He was pretty much telling us he
Speaker 2: wanted to give us twenty thousand dollars. Right, there's an advance.
Speaker 2: But he said, then there's another twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: marketing cost that's on the back end. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: what's the marketing cost, like, like, what is the marketing
Speaker 2: for He said, well, I get you prime placement on
Speaker 2: to B and Peacock and these other platforms. And I said,
Speaker 2: I don't think that worked that way, bro. I think
Speaker 2: that works by algorithm. I don't think they come out
Speaker 2: and just to say, okay, you can buy this placement.
Speaker 2: I think everybody would be doing that. If you can
Speaker 2: go pay for prime placement on Toby, I think you
Speaker 2: when you do that, busy, when y'all do that, Tristan
Speaker 2: Steves definitely every Yeah, So this cat man and I
Speaker 2: was got to doing the math and I said, bro,
Speaker 2: before we come out and see it down, we got
Speaker 2: to try to recoup forty some thousand dollars man, and
Speaker 2: twenty Ever, it wasn't never even there, like twenty four,
Speaker 2: what what are we giving you to the other twenty four?
Speaker 2: He said, well, it's for he and he was, man,
Speaker 2: he was really even up the even up the advanced amount,
Speaker 2: I think by five or ten thousand dollars. But he
Speaker 2: wasn't move He wasn't blazed on that twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: And he wanted the whole rights to the film for
Speaker 2: ten years. I said, bro, the movie already shot. See yeah,
Speaker 2: the movie movie already show. He wanted to have the
Speaker 2: rights to it for ten years.
Speaker 7: I say, what the thing is.
Speaker 5: More than forty did did you get your money back
Speaker 5: from shooting the movie?
Speaker 1: That's predatorial, that's predatorial at his finess.
Speaker 9: Man, yeah, I mean, but that's their thing though, that's
Speaker 9: that's what they try to do. Like a lot of
Speaker 9: these two be originals, they be locking these filmmakers then
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand for six years,
Speaker 9: six to eight years.
Speaker 7: Like I know a filmmaker right now.
Speaker 9: He did a six year deal for one hundred and
Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars and he was like it, and they
Speaker 9: was paying him over a course of six of six quarters.
Speaker 7: I said, there's no way in hell whatever did that?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like I said, bro, that kind of.
Speaker 9: Money is like, we see that in a month, Like
Speaker 9: why would you I mean, the way two be going
Speaker 9: right now, you can see that in a month.
Speaker 7: Or two weeks.
Speaker 9: Honestly, you know what I'm saying, Like, why would you
Speaker 9: say here and give up? He's like, man, it's my
Speaker 9: This is a lot of people's reasoning. This is my
Speaker 9: first film. I just trying to make a couple couple
Speaker 9: of dollars to make sure I guarantee my my residual,
Speaker 9: like that I make back what I spent. I said, Man,
Speaker 9: you're in the wrong game, playing playing them type of games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how you start off? How you finished too, taking
Speaker 2: sucker deals, man end getting sucker deals.
Speaker 7: But that's how for those for those like Media Trisian
Speaker 7: and Steve.
Speaker 9: For us who hold our own and we take pride
Speaker 9: into our intellectual property.
Speaker 7: Like we wouldn't do a deal like that, But it's gonna.
Speaker 9: Make it bad for us because now to be gonna
Speaker 9: love Look, either y'all gonna take this deal or y'all
Speaker 9: can't get on the platform, so they're gonna start doing
Speaker 9: stuff like that, or we're gonna get the Amazon effect,
Speaker 9: because I don't know, a lot.
Speaker 7: Of people don't remember when before Tube it was Amazon.
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. I was one of the
Speaker 9: ones that was blessed to make good money off Amazon.
Speaker 9: But once Amazon, okay, they flood They flooding us now,
Speaker 9: so let's now they cut down the pay rate, you
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. And then then that's when when
Speaker 9: the pandemic hit, twob jumped up. So everybody, Okay, we're
Speaker 9: gonna go to ad base. But now if you ever
Speaker 9: go look at Amazon, you don't see no movies from
Speaker 9: independent arts like Steve got a movie on that right now,
Speaker 9: but it's transactional.
Speaker 7: You don't get nothing subscription based or nothing ad based.
Speaker 9: With Amazon because they don't want our movies on there
Speaker 9: like that, you know what I'm say. Because we flooded,
Speaker 9: people started flooding them. They didn't want that, they didn't
Speaker 9: want them to be a fact.
Speaker 2: Doing the same thing. You gotta look at it, Beezy,
Speaker 2: you gotta name man. Tristan got a name, and obviously
Speaker 2: people book Tristan because his face is gonna help sell.
Speaker 2: It's gonna move to Needa when people see that thumbnail
Speaker 2: with his face on there. That's how I do.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: If I see a movie with Tristan on it, with
Speaker 2: Gravy on it and Beezy shot by Beezy or Steve
Speaker 2: or somebody that engineered, I'm gonna go look at it, man,
Speaker 2: because it's like it's like Coca Cola.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: It's branded already, right, It's something like a trust. Okay,
Speaker 2: they ain't just gonna be doing no bullshit, so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna check them out. I think y'all got enough weight
Speaker 2: dog to wear. If y'all want to pull that streaming
Speaker 2: platform off the dog, I think it the work, bro,
Speaker 2: because y'all think about how many champers. Think about how
Speaker 2: many platforms that have been built off YOURLL brand, Dug Tubi.
Speaker 7: Is one of them. Toub was built off Independent Film Guarantee.
Speaker 9: Like I remember, I was one of the first films
Speaker 9: put on Toob that was started jumping. I remember my
Speaker 9: first check with Tuby was like three thousand dollars. Because
Speaker 9: nobody knew what Tube was. They'd be like, what's Toob?
Speaker 9: Like it's a free act. We take odds wait for
Speaker 9: it to come on Amazon. But it's the same thing, now.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: But me saying that to say is all of us
Speaker 9: putting our independent content, building that traction we built toob
Speaker 9: to be popped off pandemic. Right, What was one of
Speaker 9: the first movies that the first things they seen on
Speaker 9: tube that really made it? It was plug Love and
Speaker 9: they had uh And then that the mcgra as shit
Speaker 9: kicked off.
Speaker 7: Once them movies kicked off, floodgates open.
Speaker 9: So now okay, then I had my movie on I
Speaker 9: got a movie called Wait that was on there, and
Speaker 9: a few other ones like child Support with Christians shit
Speaker 9: like that. It was like the floodgates open. So now
Speaker 9: it was like everybody seeing that they made it. They
Speaker 9: made one hundred thousand dollars on two. Let me go
Speaker 9: over here, so not everybody dropping a movie a week
Speaker 9: on two.
Speaker 2: Man, it could work. I think what it would take though,
Speaker 2: like we were saying, man, it'll take money, because then
Speaker 2: people are spending money like man. Like our podcast, for example,
Speaker 2: is on iHeart right, we on Charlomagne and the Guys
Speaker 2: platform Black Effect, right, and I look at kind of
Speaker 2: some of the stuff they do versus when we's independent.
Speaker 2: It's a difference dog, especially in our audio. It's just different,
Speaker 2: right because we hitting way more people now. But it's
Speaker 2: a cost to be paid for that. All we got
Speaker 2: to do is figure out, man, who the right people
Speaker 2: you know, who the right people are, man to really
Speaker 2: make that technology, go to put it in front of
Speaker 2: them two million, three million people, because it ain't got
Speaker 2: nothing to do with no bots. You're getting in front
Speaker 2: of real people, man, And this is like a thing.
Speaker 2: These people have the ability to throw something against like
Speaker 2: two or three million people, dog and kind of make
Speaker 2: it sticking. Whoever else is left over, that's what they
Speaker 2: collect and just keep growing from there. So imagine if
Speaker 2: we can get put in front of two or three
Speaker 2: million people and we wind up with one point five
Speaker 2: million every month, you win it in it.
Speaker 9: But the thing is now that like when it comes
Speaker 9: to that streaming platform, I think it's a lot of
Speaker 9: gatekeeping going on with it.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 9: I would suggest, like like you say, we can't be
Speaker 9: liud with it because I think, what after so long,
Speaker 9: they're gonna be like, Okay, who is these people? We
Speaker 9: gotta shut them down? So I think approaching that type
Speaker 9: of situation. Like you said, we're gonna have to get
Speaker 9: a name involved with that, someone that can get us
Speaker 9: in rooms that we that we need to be in,
Speaker 9: that has to face for it, because other than that,
Speaker 9: they're gonna shut us down.
Speaker 7: Quick.
Speaker 2: Think about what fifty about to start doing. Man, he's
Speaker 2: gonna open up his soundstage. Man, he's parting with the Lions.
Speaker 2: Get catch though, right?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think so. The Lion's got her stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got some good stuff going on. I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna be one of the people that do it.
Speaker 2: I think he could.
Speaker 9: He started, he started streaming platform him and uh, what's
Speaker 9: the name?
Speaker 7: Dame Dash was.
Speaker 9: Going back and forth about it. Supposedly has his own
Speaker 9: streaming platform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dame got his own Dame got his own fast channel,
Speaker 2: his own his own streaming platform. I don't know how
Speaker 2: much traffic he getting, man, but I always support stuff
Speaker 2: like that. That's the problem is black people doing. We
Speaker 2: got to start really supporting each other instead of trying
Speaker 2: to clown everything. Dang got his own thing going. He's
Speaker 2: doing his thing now. I don't know how big it is,
Speaker 2: but he doing it.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 7: I am always been that guy.
Speaker 1: To me, Champ.
Speaker 5: He put their own channels. Uh, they reached out to me.
Speaker 5: I talked to him. But you know, and it's like.
Speaker 3: BZ said, it's funny because my man Swift motion picture
Speaker 3: of a man Swift was at this conference and the
Speaker 3: head of TWOB was there, that the one of the
Speaker 3: presidents or the head guys, white guy was there, and
Speaker 3: that's not asking questions about it. I was like, why
Speaker 3: y'all independence like this, Like why y'all moved us to
Speaker 3: the bottom of the chef.
Speaker 5: Why y'all not showing to give us the spots that
Speaker 5: we had?
Speaker 3: And the man looked there be so crazy every being
Speaker 3: Swift was laughing, is like, well, trust nobody gonna be
Speaker 3: on TV no more.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, man, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: You get people up.
Speaker 3: So, like BZ said, we gotta be quiet about it
Speaker 3: because you gotta think about take it from them people.
Speaker 3: We think, oh if movies, I think about movies. Swift
Speaker 3: took out his movies, you know McGraw a people took
Speaker 3: all their movies. Lisa to take all her movies. It
Speaker 3: was one platform.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's half of the action. Follow Yeah, man, we
Speaker 2: have to talk off. We're gonnad to talk off. Learn
Speaker 2: like about this man. Now, let's talk about real quick.
Speaker 2: Man neg just dropped this Friday, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, man negligent. It's a big one.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I called Hollywood and me too be Uh been a
Speaker 3: couple of Hollywood actors on there, but not like this.
Speaker 5: It's this.
Speaker 3: This is like, man, I think, like, uh this motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: like I gave him two million dollar budget and you're
Speaker 3: looking at him black man. He's had a two million
Speaker 3: dollar budget for this one. Uh man, you know so
Speaker 3: my man Trician, you know, craziest fucking ever on there.
Speaker 5: We got Crystal to die.
Speaker 3: My girl Chelby Lee, we got uh man, uh Reggie
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 5: We got my man Clifton Pole, my good pile. Oh
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 3: Uh start studying, man, Oh you got up stiff on here.
Speaker 3: Erica Pickett starts Chaos Chaotic shout out to Chaotic man promote.
Speaker 3: Uh this is his first movie from hip hop. This
Speaker 3: is first movie with me on on on the independent side.
Speaker 3: So uhy mother about Friday.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: But uh, hey, man, they think man actors.
Speaker 3: I think it's because Omark of Goodie and Cook the
Speaker 3: powerca to the set. I think everybody just stuffed their game.
Speaker 3: But like even Lee Masters. He and Lee Masters, and
Speaker 3: everybody stepped their game.
Speaker 9: The ring on the line, everybody stepped their game up.
Speaker 9: He just he just put everybody around good actors this
Speaker 9: time instead of hire people that can't act.
Speaker 7: That's all. It was just a bunch of talent.
Speaker 2: He keep it real busy looking at this time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because you know, hey, listen, I'm an tell you
Speaker 9: one thing about independent man. People are cheap. And I
Speaker 9: understand why they're cheap because we're trying to stay in budget.
Speaker 9: But I'm one of those people that really like like
Speaker 9: to dive into the real acting, Like I don't really
Speaker 9: care about popularity for real. And Steve O actually gave
Speaker 9: me a bunch of tours with these actors that can
Speaker 9: really bring characters to.
Speaker 7: Life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So it was like we were able to have fun
Speaker 9: with this one that actually Christian like Electrician really getting
Speaker 9: his bag. When you see him in this movie, You're
Speaker 9: gonna let this niggas nuts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So that's just one of those things. But sometimes people
Speaker 9: get lost with the fact that oh I can get
Speaker 9: her for like two hundred dollars a day, and you
Speaker 9: know this and the third, and she's kind of popular
Speaker 9: and it's cheaper for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So that's all I mean. But Steve oo gave me
Speaker 7: some He gave me some real actors to work with
Speaker 7: this time.
Speaker 2: He gave you some people to work with.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I know, as long as my boy playing a villain
Speaker 2: on his mother for this gonna be successful.
Speaker 7: He more than a villain.
Speaker 1: You re in on this, Tristan, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: yes sir.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I read, it's playing the bad I
Speaker 4: read it's playing the bad guy man. Like I said,
Speaker 4: it gives me such a wide range of things to do, man,
Speaker 4: And I think I really get my acting bag when
Speaker 4: I played play the bad guy. But look y'all, I'm
Speaker 4: getting ready getting my acting bad right now. But before
Speaker 4: I get off of this podcast, Man mc eight, man,
Speaker 4: I want I wanted to say this to the end,
Speaker 4: but I got to get off a little bit prematurely.
Speaker 4: I want to say, man, that you were a huge
Speaker 4: part of my childhood growing up.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: A wax is something that me and my I'm forty
Speaker 4: one years old, bro, and I got a best friend
Speaker 4: that I've been hanging with us. I was eleven years old, Bro,
Speaker 4: and we still quote you from from Minister Society to
Speaker 4: this day.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: And I just want to want to let you know
Speaker 4: that you have been an intricate part of my childhood.
Speaker 4: I've been seeing your lines. Give my mother fucking joint back,
Speaker 4: both of y'all. I've been saying that since.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the love back.
Speaker 2: All good, Yes, sir man, we appreciate you coming on,
Speaker 2: Tristan Man, go on, handle your business.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you much love.
Speaker 1: I look at my beautiful right here.
Speaker 2: Uh see, that's how you're able to get away with it.
Speaker 2: She right there looking at him like this, Okay.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, but I appreciate the love, y'all. Make sure
Speaker 4: that y'all go check out Negligence. I promise y'all Steve
Speaker 4: O to not disappoint everything that he just said. Like, man,
Speaker 4: he put us around as solid cash man. And when
Speaker 4: you're around side of people, man, it's hard to mess up.
Speaker 4: It's hard to fail because everybody is making sure that
Speaker 4: you're policing each other.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So make sure y'all go
Speaker 1: check out Negligence this Friday on Tube.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: Make it most popular.
Speaker 2: It's all good man, we gonna be on him and
Speaker 2: we get it popping. Yes, I appreciate Homie leaving you Facebook,
Speaker 2: but shake up out of here. We gonna hall let
Speaker 2: y'all next week.
Speaker 3: Y'all gonna watch That's just Friday, Watch Somebody one, two
Speaker 3: and three, unfatched Change and you like commonly the Hole
Speaker 3: in the Wall, all great movies and b let them
Speaker 3: know what you got out right now? Pop it.
Speaker 9: Uh, we got cons and Cooeger scripts, pillow talk everything
Speaker 9: with it, child support whatever. Man, just just type, just
Speaker 9: type a Trician physics, a Bzy Jones and it all
Speaker 9: pop up.
Speaker 2: Well. That concludes another episode of the gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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