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Speaker 2: star rating and comment what's adding? What's adding? What's adding?

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Speaker 2: Is your boy big still along with? And you know what, man,

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Speaker 2: we got some very important people in here tonight.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: You know I was asking you early if your boy

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Speaker 2: rich because I know he like all the super duper

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Speaker 2: messy ship man. We got the homeboy man, Tristan Physic

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Speaker 2: is up in here tonight, man, Steve Love. So it's

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Speaker 2: just money man, just chilling, so twisting you down there

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Speaker 2: in New Orleans shooting some stuff.

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Speaker 4: Right now, Yes, sir, actually band rouge, but yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: in Louisiana right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We said, man, you stay working. You gotta be the

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Speaker 2: most work working actor in the whole motherfuckering United States.

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Speaker 1: Dog h shit, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: It's a couple of us, man, we are here in

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Speaker 4: the ground for shure man trying to trying to get

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Speaker 4: it out the mud as they say.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's a blessing man and me being from the Midwest, Man,

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Speaker 2: I think it's an incredible job man, that everybody is

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Speaker 2: doing down there. Man, just really just taking over the

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Speaker 2: just independent movie game. Thank you, brother. I appreciate that

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Speaker 2: when you first started going to your journey man, that

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Speaker 2: you think it'd be a big Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did. I most definitely thought. I can't I be.

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Speaker 4: I would be remiss or a lie to say if

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it would be this big. I'm just

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Speaker 4: waiting for for uh my dreams to catch up to

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Speaker 4: reality because my mind is it was as much bigger.

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Speaker 4: But I just know it takes time and it don't

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Speaker 4: happen when when you wanted to, What happen when it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. That's real, man. And your characters, Man,

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Speaker 2: are always somebody like real, memorable man like I ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna front Man. You play the most fucked up niggas

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, Man, But playing the most

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Speaker 4: fucked up nigga, as you say, it gives you more,

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Speaker 4: uh more nuances to play with as an actor as

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Speaker 4: opposed to being somebody that's square or that's just you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, that they don't have there's no

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Speaker 4: there's no real art to them. But with a a

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Speaker 4: person that's that's a villain, you get, you get to

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Speaker 4: put you get, you get so much of a variety

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Speaker 4: of variety, of of of range that you can play

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Speaker 4: with this person, you know what I'm saying, And you

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Speaker 4: don't have I'm not saying that this person don't have

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Speaker 4: no morality, but the morale his the reason why he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's real. Man. Let me ask you this man,

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Steve Ball, just having played some ship that

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Speaker 4: But honestly, man, a lot of even though you know

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Speaker 4: be told because it's somebody out here that's really that

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So even though these people

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Speaker 4: Individuals, there's really somebody out here like that, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And me as an actor, I gotta

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Speaker 4: in a real world, we are not perfect, you know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, that's real, Steve, O, that's Sam. You

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Speaker 2: always playing a fucked up ass character too, man, A

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Speaker 2: If y'all ever noticed, man that usually the people who

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Speaker 5: They said about all.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is, Steve. What was the first movie

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Speaker 2: Trust nobody, probably one. So you kind of just hit

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Speaker 3: Then that's the I meetrician like that.

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Speaker 6: So where where do you get the inspiration for coming

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Speaker 5: Well, trust nobody probably want to tell you truth.

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Speaker 3: Man, I was doing a little time right years couple months,

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Speaker 3: So I was really right, you know, to keep myself

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Speaker 3: I made the golden myself say when I get out,

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Speaker 3: I'm better than what I am. I ain't gonna be

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Speaker 3: Every time I get out, I make a gold At

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Speaker 3: one time with the jail, I seen a Z in

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Speaker 3: the magazine with a big ring.

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Speaker 5: I got out just to make that ring and never wear.

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Speaker 5: So I put throwing myself all the time.

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Speaker 3: But I was sitting there right, Trust nobody, it was

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Speaker 5: I'm I was gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: The crazy part about it is, you know I did

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Speaker 3: it twenty years before, shot to.

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Speaker 5: About almost twenty years and shot the movie when I

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Speaker 5: wrote it twenty years before I shot it.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. So how long do it typically make you? Like,

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Speaker 2: how long do it typically take to put a movie together,

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Speaker 3: For me, it just takes depends on what I'm writing, Like, uh, y,

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Speaker 3: I can write something like thirty forty days.

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Speaker 5: I think something might take you three or four months.

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Speaker 3: Uh shorts every shot of movie by than four days,

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Speaker 3: which unfair exchange it came out grade.

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Speaker 5: And but most people do it like ten days, the

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Speaker 1: Gonna bey on me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's about I tear fifteen days. You

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Speaker 3: want a real good silid movie with some real good

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Speaker 3: ten days, yeah.

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Speaker 2: For sure. And with the stuff on to be man,

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Speaker 2: they really too be seemed like it really don't resonate

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think that's for a couple of reasons. First of

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Speaker 2: as they call them. They always got the baddest bras

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Speaker 2: them and everything and Tris And I gotta ask you this, bro,

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Speaker 1: Hey? Man?

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Speaker 4: We look man, just know that. Man, Man, I got

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Speaker 4: And you know they understand it is what it is,

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Speaker 4: I come home and you know that's you know, you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if my old lady will be going

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Speaker 6: Man, Oh yeah, you working, You would not be fucking around,

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Speaker 6: You would not be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, your wife is not happening. My wife would be.

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Speaker 7: Like that might get down like that down like.

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Speaker 1: You don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just from sleeping out side.

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Speaker 5: He told me, right, and gotta change the kid.

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Speaker 2: Doing that too, crazy man like church being something like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he can't. No female presidents allowed or out here.

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Speaker 6: You know it's curtains like a motherfucker. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: A siting that they're talking knowing he can't do too

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Speaker 2: much to different. So let me ask you this. Have

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Speaker 8: I think thing, Yeah, no, man, you gotta be man,

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Speaker 8: because I'm gonna tell you, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: And when you got somebody like me and a Moreau.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, she got the you know

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Speaker 6: Saying, she got man. You you own it, ain't you?

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm on it man, looking like everybody, I'm

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Speaker 1: Uh damn be uncomfortable. I think.

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Speaker 4: When when two you got too attracted attractive people, you

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Speaker 4: or may not have in the beginning. And ship, Man,

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Speaker 4: it's other people in the room. It's not like it's

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: You got an audio person in the room, you got

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Speaker 4: the camera guy in the room. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So you know it's not really, it's not really nervous.

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Speaker 4: And when you got, like I said, somebody that's attractive

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Speaker 4: in front of you, in front of you, it's easy

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Speaker 4: to pretend like you like tom.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure you said you're pretending like.

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Speaker 1: I just got to say that because I want to

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Speaker 1: get to.

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Speaker 5: To kick in.

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Speaker 1: You get it, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Proestionalism just have to kick in, and you got to

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Speaker 6: just put what's what with it all in perspective. Man,

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I'm an actor and

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Speaker 6: this is a scene. And if I call myself an actor,

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Speaker 6: just like an entertain or whatever. Man, at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, you gotta perform. It's what you're here

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Speaker 6: to do. So you know that's real.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy nowadays too, because like you said, you

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Speaker 2: don't want to get sued. You can miss round and

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Speaker 2: be doing them scenes and somebody feel uncomfortable. Man, it

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Speaker 2: could all go left real quick, man, and you ain't

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Speaker 2: doing nothing but doing what you was kind of told exactly.

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Speaker 4: But I think that especially like in our count were

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Speaker 4: And just for any other independent filmmakers out there or

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Speaker 4: Bro, when you are real, when you a real one, bro,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That's just that's just the

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Speaker 2: So you really had to get in your acting back. Definitely,

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Speaker 4: I gotta ask Mike, why you kill that baby? Why

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Speaker 1: So I love it. You know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They cherished that, they hold

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Speaker 4: Movie to movie, from project to project to project, they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Scott the Ruck, probably one of the coldest

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Speaker 2: cold character man. That had to be just. I know

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Speaker 2: what was you thinking when you first saw that script?

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Speaker 4: Man, I think, Man, I'm about to have some fun

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Speaker 4: painting this picture. You know I'm about to have because

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Speaker 4: You got this rule, Brick that you have to stick

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you just and you

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Speaker 4: So that's my whole thing. Throughout the movie. I'm earning

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Speaker 4: You see how the fucked up shit I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you was on one for real. And you

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Speaker 2: know what was cold?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 2: Your little son man got a future man because he

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Speaker 2: played the hell off that part.

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Speaker 1: Man, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found out that was your son. Is he

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Speaker 4: You know what that it's not a lot of roles

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Speaker 1: Actually getting ready be in Steve Wan and Steve O projects.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. And you know, I got to float it

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Speaker 2: back to you, Steve O. One thing about it. I'm

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Speaker 2: y'all kind of went and did the impossible. Y'all need

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Speaker 3: Going back to you thinking about back to like with

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Speaker 3: spend less money. It still costs a lot of money,

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Speaker 5: So it's back back in them days us. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: The funny thing about that is when usually people start

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Speaker 2: It's like when you remember everybody started becoming gangster rappers

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're just making access and then you know,

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Speaker 5: Going back to the Hollywood ship.

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Speaker 6: They really don't like a lot of independent directors, producers, whatever.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's one of those games that they try

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Speaker 6: you know, being a motherfucking bad boy and driving through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely resonating. It's definitely resonating. I know Detroit

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Speaker 2: on there, y'all check it out, you know what I mean? Yes, sir, Steve,

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Speaker 2: what was one of the biggest roadblocks you had?

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Speaker 2: When you first decided he was gonna do these movies

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Speaker 3: As the music that I had a lawyer called Dance Stewart.

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Speaker 5: I'm just like, I'm not gonna keep going this route.

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Speaker 3: Man, I want to stay independent and count all minds

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Speaker 3: They don't want to ship invest into you, you know

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Speaker 5: You pennies for your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: So I was like an artist, So I found me

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know one of the things I ask you

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Speaker 3: They'll try you if you'll know no better, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

441
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Speaker 5: Uh, you got some good distributors and you got some

442
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 5: bad distributis ain't gonna say no dangs.

443
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 3: So you gotta be real careful and you gotta watch

444
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 3: your paperwork because like I said, just like in the

445
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 3: Music Game, now it's streaming the same thing on these movies.

446
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 3: So you gotta really, you know, hope you get in

447
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: the right reports, you know what I mean, And you

448
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: hope you're getting the right the h I mean add

449
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: ReBs to get out of the chairs getting So just

450
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 3: like the music games, got some good accounts, some good

451
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 3: lawyers and uh, and do your research, just like the

452
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 3: music game. You know, hey, if a motherfucker fuck you

453
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Speaker 3: and find a way they're gonna do it like that.

454
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Speaker 6: I said all the time, if a nigga, if a

455
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 6: nigga can do and he don't do it.

456
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Speaker 4: And the tricky part about that is too, is when

457
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 4: you make a deal with these distribution companies, you you

458
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,239
Speaker 4: don't you can't go directly to TWOB and get your

459
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 4: numbers because they don't have an obligation, uh, contractually to

460
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 4: give you numbers. So you just got to hope that

461
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 4: the distribution company that you're working with is giving you

462
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: real numbers or else you're gonna have to start udering people.

463
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that costs money right there. That's that's what

464
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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, Tristan. You being an actor, right,

465
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Speaker 2: and I've been in some stuff too, like eight ass

466
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a SAG member and all that, right

467
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: doing the independent films. Are they starting to give like

468
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: a back end on the stuff too? Because see, you

469
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: got a name now, so I'm pretty sure you can

470
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: go in and kind of demand certain things.

471
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Speaker 4: Some projects, Uh they would if they don't have the

472
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: capital to pay your ransom like you have, some you

473
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 4: can give you.

474
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: They give you points on the on the back end.

475
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

476
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 4: Uh, not too many people offer that, but you know,

477
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 4: it's something that you most definitely can negotiate. But outside

478
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: of that, there is not there is no no back

479
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 4: end for real. You get what you what you get paid,

480
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 4: You get what you negotiate, and then you go home

481
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 4: and you be happy about.

482
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: It and you go promote that film. You know what

483
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

484
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's a lot more today. It's a

485
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: lot more opportunity, especially for cats, Like do you have

486
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: you ever got behind the camera? If you have thoughts

487
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: getting behind the camera kind of doing your own projects.

488
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Speaker 4: So a lot of projects that I work on. Beasley

489
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 4: is my business partner, you know, we I'm I ain't

490
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: just an actor. I'm an executive producer. Uh so yeah,

491
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: I already got projects that's already out here that that's

492
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 4: that's that's my own.

493
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Speaker 2: Well that's dope, man, that's real dope.

494
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 4: So strict, I don't know, I don't know if y'all

495
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: heard the scripts of the scripts executive produced that not

496
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: her husbands and me and a few other a few

497
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 4: other things that most definitely when I when I got

498
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 4: in the game, man, I realized right off the bat,

499
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: like if you want some real money out this ship.

500
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Speaker 1: You got to put some money in.

501
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, let's do man.

502
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: You can see you know, independent artists just let them know.

503
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: Like if you ain't dealing with a big company, like

504
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 3: like Trisian said, if you can negotiate it back in,

505
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: that's good. But if you ain't dealing with a real

506
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: big company, all you can't get up front because or

507
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: the person ain't got no financial uh department. You know,

508
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: you know you'll run on your clothes down everything. So

509
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: you know, let me speaking. I mean, you can fight

510
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: for it, get what you can get up front. That

511
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: you can't get it back in good, But I'm gonna

512
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: tell you like this is the baby, try to get it.

513
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, what you can get up front, move on,

514
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 6: and like you said, be satisfied for what you negotiate,

515
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 6: because whether it's whether the ship go up or down,

516
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 6: you know, that's your position you in. You know, because

517
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 6: you like the independent game. A lot of niggas don't

518
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 6: like to give up a lot or whatever because that

519
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 6: that that's right we independent, you know. So and then

520
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 6: with the districts or whatever, you know, they still looking

521
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 6: at niggas bottom of the barrel. So they gonna try

522
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 6: to cheap you out which way they go, because their

523
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 6: job is gonna go be trying to get the money

524
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 6: from the big networks or the big channel or whatever.

525
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 6: So you feel me, so you might as well try

526
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 6: to squeeze the limit as hard as you mother fucking

527
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 6: can fuck it. Yeah.

528
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: But at the same time, remember and still they still

529
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: independent too, And they and the and and the filmmaker

530
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: is taking the hell of a gamble, man ain't no.

531
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: It's it's a project called Power Money that we did

532
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: and it's probably the most money that we ever put

533
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 4: into an independent project.

534
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 7: Bro.

535
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 4: And I promise you, man, we're still in the red

536
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: and we create we made this film. I want to say,

537
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 4: two three years ago, we're still in the red. We

538
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: still don't you know what I'm saying. We still ain't

539
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: ain't black yet, you know what I'm saying. So it's

540
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: a gamble, you know what I'm saying. It's it's it's

541
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: a real gamble with the with these projects. Man, ain't

542
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: nobody guaranteed to like their project once you put it

543
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: out there, up to the to the fan base to

544
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: like it.

545
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's always a gamble. And there's so many

546
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: people doing movies right now, Like if you go to Tubby,

547
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: it seemed like it's five hundred new movies coming out

548
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: every week. Dog, you feel what I'm saying, So it's

549
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: allowed to compete against.

550
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the life the lack.

551
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: Of a film, it's almost the same as the life

552
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: of a music video right now, you know what I'm saying.

553
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: It's like they they got about a good week or

554
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: so if you don't, you know what I'm saying, If

555
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: you're not constant promoting the marketing your movie, that's the

556
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: life of a movie because like you said, it's it's

557
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: content and the content and the people are consuming it

558
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: way faster than they were years ago.

559
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, man. And it's like because I

560
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: remember when Tubby Tubby has actually been around for a while,

561
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: and I remember when a movie started coming out of Detroit,

562
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: the independent movies I started watching. I was a fan

563
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: of all this stuff really early on, and I remember

564
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: it kind of went from being like right here to

565
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: where it was just like and some of the stuff,

566
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: you know, and I ain't gonna be most of the

567
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: stuff on this most of the independent movies that come

568
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: out of shop pretty well, you got some that's not good.

569
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 2: But for the most part, everybody out there doing the

570
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 2: thing man, And I think that's the biggest thing, is

571
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: just putting quality material out there. If you're doing quality material, man,

572
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: because you already kind of got the odds against you,

573
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: so you can't come out what you can't come out

574
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: just doing any old thing. I agree, you feel what

575
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So where do y'all think this stuff is

576
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: gonna go from here? Though? Like, like where y'all think to

577
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: see the game going from here? I just.

578
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: You know, I take like hip hop, if everybody keep

579
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: shooting good quality stuff, uh, supporting each other, you know

580
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: what I mean? You know, you know right now as

581
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 3: you see to me, it was like you said, a

582
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: bunch of us independent acts. But now it's kind of like, uh,

583
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: they put at their own content on their library fox

584
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: stuff and our old movie trying of pushing us out.

585
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: It's just about your movie that'll be hard to find.

586
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: But we keep supporting each other and standing on their

587
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: standing on together coming together them know that we're gonna

588
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: stand together, and no content back for independent Detroitment, Walpie, Cleveland,

589
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: all these blues really to maybe being that Cole is

590
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: to day Black people did that. The fans did that,

591
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: and we stick together expect we don't. They play its

592
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: just like they did Hit Bip.

593
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's gotta be you know, uh looked in

594
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 6: a positive light. You feel me that.

595
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

596
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 6: And and the more the more that you're able to

597
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 6: do and the more that's able to come out, it's

598
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: you know how they do. You know, when the ship

599
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 6: starts turning successful, they gonna see the light and then

600
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 6: that's when the big money gonna come in and they

601
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 6: gonna give opportunities. So uh, it gotta be nothing but

602
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 6: an upscale you feel me, like you said, because it's

603
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 6: a lot of brothers that's now doing this these projects

604
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 6: and being recognized for these projects. And uh, I think

605
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 6: it's a good I think it's a good thing because

606
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 6: first of all, you show motherfuckers that, okay, shit, I

607
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 6: don't need your budgets and shit, and I rather keep

608
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 6: shit independent anyway, because sometimes independency can bring you more

609
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 6: recognition and money in the first place. Now, you know,

610
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 6: you love to get that one hundred million dollar budget

611
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 6: or whatever, but they come in due time, you feel.

612
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: Me, I mean, personally, I ain't gonna lie.

613
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: I love the fact that I love the trajectory of

614
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: where we're going, but I feel like every time that

615
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: we start going up, up, up, up up, they watching

616
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: it looking like, what the fuck? How the fuck can

617
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: we get a piece of it? And how can we

618
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: knock them out of that motherfucker? How can we knock

619
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: them out the box? And I think that and we

620
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: don't find another platform or creating another platform outside of TOUB,

621
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: then they gonna do just that. If we as filmmakers

622
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: continue to make to be originals where we're.

623
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Not getting.

624
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: A lot of money, especially not even a lot of

625
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: money up front, then they're gonna box us out. So

626
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: we gotta, for one, not we gotta get off that

627
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: TV before we even get on it, and we got

628
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: to figure out other platform platforms and avenues to to

629
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: uh to showcase our stuff too, because I think to

630
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: be they looking at us and they're gonna do the

631
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: same thing. Like I said, they're finding ways to to

632
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: uh exclude us from what's going on. They build it,

633
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: they use us to build up the platform, and then

634
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: they're going to wipe us out.

635
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not gonna do if you're not gonna do it.

636
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: In a minute, I feel like if you're not willing

637
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: to sell your movie to them where you're come to

638
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: them to make a two Be original, then they ain't

639
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 4: gonna allow your projects to get on their platform.

640
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I was saying before I kind of left. Man,

641
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: it's like I saw pretty much Black Centema build Too

642
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: Be and bring an audience over there, right. And you're

643
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: starting to notice now, man, that with the two Be

644
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: your riginals, those are the those are the movies that

645
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: are getting prime play. You feel what I'm saying, They're

646
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: getting prime placement. And you may want to explain to

647
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the people out there with the original Liss because I

648
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: heard in the original they kind of just give you

649
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: a flat fee and you don't get no row ay

650
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: off of it. But then I heard they don't even

651
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: give you all the bread up front. They make you

652
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: wait for some of the bride. So it don't make

653
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: no sense.

654
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: So what they do is they give you say they

655
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: if they offer you two hundred and fifty thousand for

656
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: your movie, they're gonna give you that over a period

657
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: of time, say every three months, they're gonna give you

658
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 4: maybe twenty or thirty thousand. And you could have did

659
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: you could have done that your first week on your own.

660
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: You could have did that your first month on your own.

661
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: And so what they do is they take your project

662
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: and they milk the shit out that much like say,

663
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: they put it wherever they you know what I'm saying,

664
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: And the most popular, they make it very visual to

665
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: the audience, and the projects do well. You license it

666
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 4: out to them and you don't see no money until

667
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: that licenses is over with, you know what I'm saying.

668
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: So they gonna milk your project and get the most

669
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 4: out of it. They didn't give it back to you

670
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: when there's nothing left.

671
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Wow, So they're paying you to bring it over a

672
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: period of months. You're not even getting all the bread.

673
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: You can't even make a move like that.

674
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't even like like you say, now I

675
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: got this quarter million dollars, not gonna make me, you

676
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, two or three more movies, you

677
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

678
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: So to me, it's not worth it.

679
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how far you think we

680
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: await man from really having our own platform. Because I'm

681
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: gonna tell you something I've been trying to do for

682
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: the past three or four years. I've been trying to

683
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: build my own streaming platform, right, because I even know,

684
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: like me, we got like two or three different YouTube channels, right.

685
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't like putting stuff on YouTube. Really, I don't

686
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: really like even messing with YouTube because the money ain't

687
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: really right, you feel what I'm saying. The money ain't

688
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: really right now when you know what you're supposed to

689
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: get paid, It's like there's no way to order that.

690
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: There's no way to see what's really going on on that, right,

691
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: and you can kind of get shadow band on here.

692
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: I just I'm just not a fan of putting my

693
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: stuff on depending on somebody else's platform to make living.

694
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, how far you think we

695
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: really have our own streaming channel.

696
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: That's the That's the how I did it though.

697
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: While they're winning is until we can come together and

698
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: build a platform that has, like you, ten twenty million

699
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: people on there there. That's why Amazon winning to be winning,

700
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: uh to YouTube winning because they already have a platform

701
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: set with twenty thirty million people there so they can

702
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: charge you whatever because you need that platform. Just like

703
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: back in the days, Reckster you had to go to

704
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: the record store. Yeah, you had this sputure because it

705
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: got access to ship it to all the record stores

706
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: at one time. So we got to get like instead

707
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: of one person trying to do it that My man

708
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: P's was talking with saying some things we leave about

709
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: four or five. Was even with some of the florists

710
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: to come together, build one big platform and bring all

711
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: all your stead if you got twenty million people watching.

712
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: The other time he come to advertisers, it is I

713
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: would get paid and came all the black movies.

714
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: Like I said, it's a tangerous thing, man. You see

715
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: what happened.

716
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: When should they them all try to start up distributions

717
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: for blacks.

718
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: What they did to them? And then whatever is going

719
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: on with uh people.

720
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: Trying to you gotta keep it quiet and we try

721
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: to start something with our own and they don't get

722
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: the more dangerous like that.

723
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: Man, it can get real dangerous man, you see. Like

724
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: like you said, you brought up sugaring them the homies

725
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: from murdering got in, you know, and died it on

726
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: some bullshit. Even though they came up innocent. They all

727
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: their bread was gone. They'd just spend a game of money,

728
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So they definitely don't like

729
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: to hear talk of that, man, But I definitely think

730
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: it is something that can happen now, man, And I

731
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: think it has to be a collective of people. And

732
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: I think we have to get off the mindset because

733
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: what usually has was is everybody wants to start their

734
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: own thing instead of everybody just coming together and pulling

735
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: resources and even you know, the movie people getting with

736
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: some of the bigger influencers and saying, hey, Okay, we're

737
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: gonna put our podcast movies on this platform and this

738
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: is gonna be our thing. I think that's what we

739
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: need to do because we've been building other people shift

740
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: for too long. Man.

741
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's the hard The harder part of that

742
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: is is getting people to put their content on your

743
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: platform and not knowing whether they're going to be able

744
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: to see a return on their investment or not. So

745
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 4: you're going to have to be able to uh, be

746
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 4: able to give viewership. So that's what that's the thing

747
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: where any streaming platform, even to get ad dollars, you

748
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: got to have so many viewerships a day in order

749
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: for ads to come to your platform. Now you can

750
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: do private ass Say if you got a homeboy that

751
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: got a company, he got a commercial on stuff like that,

752
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: So you can do ads privately. But that's the biggest

753
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 4: uphill battle for a streaming a new streaming platform is

754
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: being able to get viewership to that platform. So you

755
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: can't get AD dollars.

756
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: You know what.

757
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's possible, but it would have to

758
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: be something that was real strategy. You gotta think, because

759
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: you have you have some influences out of here, man,

760
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: that are getting you know where from one hundred and

761
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: fifty thousand, you know, half a million views, you know

762
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: over a thirty day period.

763
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 8: Man.

764
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: You know, you have some people that make movies that

765
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: may get six seven million views there.

766
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: You know.

767
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: Obviously, the AU the n C is there because you

768
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: got platforms like to be that kind of was built

769
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: off the backs of those platforms. Now I see them

770
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: doing all kinds of stuff. So I think it's something

771
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, that can happen, But I don't think

772
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: it's an overnight thing. And I think it's gonna take

773
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: a lot of money. It's gonna take. It's what it's

774
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna take.

775
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: It's gonna take the right it's gonna take the right companies,

776
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: the right person with the right influence and it's gonna

777
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: take a lot of marketing dollars behind, you know, I

778
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 4: would say, shit anywhere from two hundred and fifty thousand

779
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: to a half of being to get the right promotion

780
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: behind that platform too. And just the backtrack a little

781
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: bit while we were talking about the toob Originals and

782
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 4: stuff like that we put out when we put out

783
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: our movies on on TV or whatever, and when the

784
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 4: movies first come out and people trying to search those

785
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: movies that I can't find it. I can't find the movie. Everybody,

786
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: I can't find it. You got some people who can

787
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: access those movies quite easily. You got some people who

788
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 4: can access it on their phone, but can't find it

789
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: on their TV. When the twob Are Original comes out,

790
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: it's very ironic and crazy that nobody complains, Nobody saying, hey, look,

791
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: I can't find this movie.

792
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: It ain't showing up here, but it's showing up here.

793
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: That motherfucker is very uh made ready available, you know

794
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I just had to backtrack on

795
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: that on that On that point too.

796
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: It's always some ship. I can't be rude, man. We

797
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: got the hommy beezy up. What's happening baby, what's hiding?

798
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: What's going on with man? Just chilling?

799
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 7: Man?

800
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: You know I had to pull you up there. Man,

801
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: I ain't want to leave you in the corner looking

802
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: all lonely and ship dog.

803
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 7: I was good. I was just listening getting there.

804
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: I was entertain Yeah, Man, you know what, And I

805
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: can come back and ask you. Man, you a cold dude. Man,

806
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. I probably could if I was

807
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: a you know, if I was a director or whatever. Man,

808
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man. I think I gotta step my

809
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: game up something. Man, I don't know. If I'd have

810
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: been there to put my wife on the thing, dog,

811
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: I'd have been too jealous. Matter probably wound up trying

812
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: to fire on a homie or something.

813
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 5: Man, keep born with the white thing. Man, get on something.

814
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 5: It's about the fourth time you don't mentioned the white man.

815
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: Don't talk, man, I gotta talk with my boy busy

816
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: one year. I gotta ask about a dog.

817
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 9: Hey, listen, Man, I look at it like this, like

818
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 9: they they're actors. I'm a creative just like they creative.

819
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

820
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 9: And I let that choice be hers. I let her

821
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 9: figure out what you want to do. I electrician figure

822
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: out that's something he wanted to do.

823
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 7: I'm for it.

824
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 9: We have boundaries, you know, some things that you know

825
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 9: just didn't happen. But you know, at the end of

826
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 9: the day, I can't stop her from being a creative.

827
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna be the

828
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 7: one to pigeonhold her career.

829
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: That's real. Ship man, y'all been hitting into some winners man,

830
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: that script shit as hard as a motherfucker. I told

831
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: you I was a fan.

832
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 7: Man. I don't know why. I don't know why he

833
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 7: ain't in there yet. I don't know.

834
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: We need a wax man, y'all.

835
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: Have you.

836
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 6: Get you to do some ship still, we need to

837
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: get you in the movie man, y'all to get you

838
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 6: with the professional lesson. Maria is the professions.

839
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: Man, That's what I'm saying, y'all. Try to explain that

840
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: that my wife ain't going for none of that. But

841
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: you know what that we definitely need to get eight

842
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: down in some steps. Wall. I was talking to you,

843
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: I was talking to you, beasy. We for sure got

844
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: to get him on some ship, doog. We gotta put

845
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: some stuff together.

846
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, for sure, we about to start shooting season

847
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 9: two of Scripts. Man, we needed we gonna were gonna

848
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 9: give them the name a Wax for show.

849
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: An get Man. You gotta make him, don't get make him.

850
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 9: Man, that's a classic name. Man, that's legendary for me.

851
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: You can't slide from that.

852
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 7: Man. No, but you know, I mean we get something different,

853
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 7: but he got it. You gotta.

854
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 9: You know it's gonna have it with that big ass

855
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 9: deed ego again though.

856
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Hell yeah for sure.

857
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: Man.

858
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 2: Just don't have my nigga get killed off. Manta lives. Man, Hey,

859
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: did you watch Scripts?

860
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 7: Did you ever? Suth?

861
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: No, I didn't.

862
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: I still put me on it, and I'm just getting

863
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 6: on all the two. But I've been watching so much

864
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: shit on too me. Man, it's just so much shit

865
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 6: on me. It's like and like I said, it's more

866
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: nigga can get interested because it's more in depth stories

867
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 6: of what niggas look at as realism. Like I said,

868
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 6: niggas ain't jumping out of Niggas ain't jumping out of

869
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: helicopters and blowing up six story buildings and shit like.

870
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 6: So it puts you in a perspective of something that

871
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 6: a nigga can really get into. Because shit, it's realism.

872
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 6: It's real shit that goes on still in the neighborhoods

873
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 6: and on these streets, and niggas is still crazy. So

874
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 6: when you have shit to remind motherfuckers that it's still

875
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: real niggas in the streets and real shit, they're gone.

876
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 6: It's why I think these movies are blowing up the

877
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: way they are. Hm hm, I agree. It's all my

878
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 6: niggas talk about. That's all they talk about is the movie. Man,

879
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 6: have you seen this on tub? Have you seen this?

880
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 5: Or they got this movie in this movie.

881
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 6: So it's good to see niggas getting it in, man,

882
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 6: And you know, it makes you don't do nothing but

883
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 6: want to contribute to what the niggas path fit.

884
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 5: So you know, it's all good. I'm definitely interested real

885
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 5: you know.

886
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: You know, whenever we.

887
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: Got like even the Hollywood actors coming back that they

888
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: was just coming out, I got Clipton Pile and oh

889
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: my good to come apart.

890
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 5: You know.

891
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: The game.

892
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he been getting it in.

893
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah for real. Hey, you know what when we had

894
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: homies on here, man, we like to talk about other

895
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: stuff that's going on in the world too. Man, what

896
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: y'all think about your boy, Drake, Man, did you do

897
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: some suther shit or what?

898
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna read it. This is this is this

899
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: right conversation for me. I don't think he did no

900
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 4: such ship man. You don't think so speak okay whenever somebody,

901
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 4: whenever somebody whenever you okay, you got umg right, and

902
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: you know you got you got two dogs in a fight.

903
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: But whenever you give the somebody else a little bit

904
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: of extra juice and you costing somebody a couple of

905
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: hundred million as the result of it.

906
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Hell no, ain't no suck ship. That's just how That's

907
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: how I felt about it.

908
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: But you know what, this this, this is the thing

909
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: though though Drake kind of third day ship. He talked

910
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: about the man's wife, said his wife had a baby

911
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: with his homie and all kinds of stuff, so he

912
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: kind of broke that on himself, and the homie just

913
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: hit him with that boot box.

914
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think I don't think that. I

915
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 6: don't think he's speaking on that call.

916
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 5: Still.

917
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 6: What he's saying is why the nigga trying to sue

918
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 6: you in g And that has to do with him

919
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 6: feeling like they inflated and they inflated record sales or

920
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 6: they inflated promotion. I mean, it ain't it ain't. It

921
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: ain't the It ain't about the actual. You know, if

922
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 6: you beef, and you beef, and that's what it is.

923
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: But if you have a feeling that, Okay, y'all done

924
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 6: flooded another nigga's market when we're supposed to be two clients.

925
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 6: But y'all flooded somebody else's market to do more than me,

926
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 6: and it's done cost me a few hundred million. That's

927
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 6: what the lawsuit is. Now, do I agree with shit

928
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 6: like out of as a hip hop artist. As a

929
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: hip hop artist, you're gonna always say it was some

930
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: sucker shit. Not because of them dissing. Because if he

931
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 6: wanted to talk about your mom or your wife, and

932
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 6: Kendrick came back and said, that's that's all in love

933
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 6: and war, you get me, that's not the problem. The

934
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: problem is I'm saying, technically, you fucked with my money.

935
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck what a nigga said about me.

936
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is you fucked with my bread. Now,

937
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 6: in the hip hop community, it's gonna be looked at

938
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 6: his sucker shit because we're supposed to be MC's and

939
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: we caught up in this battle that that's it. It

940
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 6: ain't supposed to be nothing more than that. You get me,

941
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 6: I diss you, you dissed me. We keep it going,

942
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 6: you know because in the long run, the record late

943
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 6: they taking money off both sides. I don't give a

944
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 6: bucket this three hundred million off of this shit and

945
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: it's only one hundred and fifty off of this shit.

946
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: They've all making the same bread off of it.

947
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: Now, the house always wins, dog, the house always wins.

948
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Think about this. Brought some other stuff. When Kendrick left

949
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 2: TDE where did he go to? He didn't go nowhere. Really,

950
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: he's stayed right there.

951
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: It's like a nigga who holds your contract right and

952
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 6: and when you sign and you're distributed through a motherfucker,

953
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 6: they're gonna always put in that stipulation in the contract.

954
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 6: If he leaves, we get first did at the new contract,

955
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 6: so you don't go anywhere else. They're definitely as a

956
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 6: as a distributor, they're not gonna go let him cut

957
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 6: a deal with another monthy, with someone like a Sony

958
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 6: or whatever that in house. So if you're no longer

959
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 6: gonna deal with tde. We just gonna walk you across

960
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 6: the hall.

961
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 5: And give you a deal straight up because now.

962
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 6: We don't so that that's basically they gonna do that.

963
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 6: That's just like any nigga you sign the contract to, Oh,

964
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 6: if you don't deal with them, no more, we get

965
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: first DIBs.

966
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: It's the same thing with It's the same thing with

967
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: Drake the University, the same thing with.

968
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: Us to offer first.

969
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 6: So if your contract is up with Young Mon and

970
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 6: you're no longer going through Young Money, fine, but.

971
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: We're gonna walk you across the hall and give you

972
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: that deal. We're not gonna let you walk out the door.

973
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: So that that's what it is.

974
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 6: The house is always gonna win because they got you

975
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 6: from when you first walked through the door with with

976
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: the with the label you came in with. If you

977
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: ever your contract is gonna be up one day, and

978
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 6: if you're doing the numbers that we project you gonna do,

979
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 6: if you ever decide to leave, come on across the

980
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: hall to my office and I'm just gonna sign you direct.

981
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: That's real because they said the boy got something like

982
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: I think what this is with Drake Man, I think

983
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: he honestly making the play to get off that label, man,

984
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, right now, this is

985
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: the perfect time to be independent.

986
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Man.

987
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: It's like, once you get to a certain point, though,

988
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: the label can no longer really do too much for you.

989
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: It's like, if you're going out there, you getting a

990
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: million dollars a show, you got your own bridge, you

991
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: got your own platform. Pretty much, you don't really need

992
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: them no more.

993
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 1: But that's just said too.

994
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 4: They cannot afford to let Drake go independent, nor do

995
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: they want him to get any more money, so they

996
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: like they're trying to fact. That's why it was important

997
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: for them to devalue him, and that was why it

998
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: was important for him to drop that hundred gigs too,

999
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: because that hundred gigs was gonna show one of two things.

1000
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: Either it was gonna show that what y'all did devalue me,

1001
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: or be dropping this independently and me doing the same

1002
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: numbers that I did previously. Why with your help that

1003
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: I can negotiate my numbers and get the number that

1004
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 4: I'm asking for. So it's either gonna show that y'all

1005
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: devalue me, or I'm still worth what I'm worth, So

1006
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: give me my money.

1007
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 6: It's just looked at as a bitch move because in

1008
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 6: the community of hip hop, you don't see a nigga

1009
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 6: because he dished you. You get me, And that just

1010
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 6: goes back to the beginning of hip hop. Niggas have

1011
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: battled and niggas have been disrespected and got into it,

1012
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 6: and niggas a motherfucking fistfighter. Shoot you before it come

1013
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 6: down on to me taking you to court and showing

1014
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: your record label because you disrespected me. So instead of

1015
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 6: a niggah, instead of a nigga, I guess admitting that,

1016
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 6: you know, I'm probably you know, fucked over the fact

1017
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 6: that the battle was you know, one by whatever. Uh

1018
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 6: he came in on some technical ship. I'm a back

1019
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 6: door and say, you niggas and you niggas inflated numbers

1020
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 6: and y'all did this and that. But unless you got

1021
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: a motherfucker who's going to hand you over paperwork showing

1022
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 6: that ship was paid for and yeah they got with

1023
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 6: Spotify and they did this and they did that, that's

1024
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 6: gonna be a hard case to prove.

1025
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: It's real hard to prove. It's almost you almost playing

1026
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: a dangerous game.

1027
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: I tell you what it is.

1028
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: Let me.

1029
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 5: Take you something right quick.

1030
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 6: Labels have been hideing and doing shit for decades. You

1031
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 6: get me, and come on, we've went through the town

1032
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 6: infatuate numbers and niggas buying their own records and all

1033
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: that type of shit. Shit been going on for thousands

1034
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 6: of years, right whatever, So it's it's gonna be hard to,

1035
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 6: like I said, unless you got a motherfucker who running

1036
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 6: the numbers and the paychecks and they on your team

1037
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 6: and they ready to just give up some shit. It

1038
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 6: seemed like a stupid gesture to do, but I guess

1039
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: if a nigga, you know, the quest is to receive

1040
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 6: or get off the label or whatever the technical.

1041
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 5: Move is behind it.

1042
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 6: It's just frowned upon in the community of music because

1043
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 6: it has never been done.

1044
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: You get me, you know. But I'm gonna tell you this.

1045
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 6: You feel me and nigga call you a bitch walking

1046
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 6: out the restaurant. You ain't gonna go and tell run,

1047
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 6: call your lawyer and be like, man, nigga, just call

1048
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 6: me a bitch.

1049
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 5: I want to sue that motherfucker. You feel dog.

1050
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: Check this out the same stuff. You remember what happened

1051
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: when Puffy got to talk about them white folks, man,

1052
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: you saw the position he kind of got put in.

1053
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: Right now, Drake is going against the biggest entity and

1054
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: the planet of plannet. The ain't nobody even close to

1055
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: universal music, right you don't think man? If he get

1056
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: the uncovering too much, man, they gonna make him look crazy.

1057
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: Because I hope, I hope he don't have no skeletons

1058
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: in his closet because I'm gonna tell you in the

1059
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: next few weeks.

1060
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 6: They gonna either expose you or pay you off.

1061
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they might pull somebody's closet.

1062
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: They might do both, they might, yeah, because I want

1063
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: to tell you.

1064
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: Them motherfuckers do not lose, dog, They do not lose.

1065
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Have you ever known somebody to successfully.

1066
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 5: Suit them videos till this day?

1067
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: Come on videos.

1068
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: The way, everybody.

1069
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: If you do some kind of bullshy, man, I'm telling you,

1070
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 6: they gonna either expose you or pay you off. That's

1071
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: what they because they ain't got time for no bullshit.

1072
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 6: Nigga were making too much money a day off of everything,

1073
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 6: and we ain't got time for no motherfucker. And they

1074
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 6: probably we like you, dude, we're making money with you,

1075
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 6: so that's why they are already like, man, it's fabricated.

1076
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 6: It is dumb because you don't want to get on

1077
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 6: they bad shot on your fuck who you is?

1078
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: No, you don't. Man, I'm gonna tell you what one

1079
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: of the homies told me. I ain't gonna give his

1080
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: name up and put him out there like that. But

1081
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: one of the homies ran distribution for em My back

1082
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: in the nineties, right, you knew what he told me

1083
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: they was doing. They they would get a recording artist,

1084
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: he would have a management team bringing the artists or whatever.

1085
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: And they didn't get to do the deal. But they

1086
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: knew they won't to ever put this record out. They

1087
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: would get a kickback off of that. They would inflate

1088
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: the recording budget, records a bunch of bullshit songs, go

1089
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: back to the people in New York and say, hey,

1090
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: we need some more money. We think we're close to

1091
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: having the hit record. And before anybody become any the wise,

1092
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: and they don't spend three four hundred thousand dollars five

1093
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on some shit that wouldn't gonna ever

1094
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: come out. Dog, So these motherfucker's dog even you think

1095
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: about back in the day when they just talk about

1096
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: Puffy was doing these million dollar music videos. You know,

1097
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: ain't no music hit video on the history of music ever,

1098
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: it really costs no million dollars. That's because everybody is

1099
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: getting their piece, doog. They're kickbacks. Yeah, we went through

1100
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: the kickbacks.

1101
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 6: Nigga, I'm a charge, I'm I'm a charge one hundred thousand,

1102
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 6: and then nigga kicked me back. Nigga fifteen twenty. You

1103
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 6: get that, the kickback shit then going on for a minute.

1104
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 7: That's it, real.

1105
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: Shit, as real as a motherfucker. You best believe it.

1106
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 7: I said, happened to me say music video was.

1107
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 6: The one time, Yeah, nigga saying, I'm a I'm gonna

1108
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 6: charge your motherfuck I'm gonna go tell the label. Nigga,

1109
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 6: this motherfucker how much you won't for it? Oh ship,

1110
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 6: Nigga give me thirty, Okay, I'm gonna go tell the

1111
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 6: motherfucking label we need a hundred. And then you kicked

1112
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 6: me back that I'm gonna get you your thirty and

1113
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 6: you kicked me back that Nigga, that ship was going

1114
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 6: on for dangerously.

1115
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: That was the thing to do back in my rap time.

1116
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Nigga.

1117
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, no, Bsy, Steve over y'all, y'all think about this,

1118
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: Triss and y'all do movies right. Where do y'all see

1119
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: a music video ever costing a million dollars and y'all

1120
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: out there y'all doing movies?

1121
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 9: Assume only one ever thought that probably really would have

1122
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 9: happened was with Bennie Boom and Hype Williams.

1123
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 7: That they probably was closed.

1124
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 9: I think Janet and them and Michael pulled that off

1125
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 9: with that million dollar video. I don't think kickback man.

1126
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike Williams videos was out the dough nigga.

1127
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's crazy.

1128
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 7: But they say Goofy spent a million were hype on you?

1129
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 6: Hepe ship. That's why it was certain nigga. It was

1130
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 6: certain budgets you couldn't afford you.

1131
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Nigga.

1132
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: Shit, I had a.

1133
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 6: Motherfucking gold platinum record and I still wasn't gonna go

1134
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 6: get no Hype Williams. I already knew, nigga, that chargeback

1135
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 6: is coming to me. I ain't finna go spend no

1136
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 6: five hundred a million dollars on my motherfucking video. Nigga'm

1137
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 6: finna get a nigga, right, on the corner, Nigga with

1138
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 6: a couple of homies and Ship at the motherfucker telephone

1139
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 6: pole parking low rider right there, Nigga. Butt video done, Nigga.

1140
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: Twenty thousand and thirty thousand.

1141
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: Shit. Niggas didn't understand that ship back then.

1142
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 6: Then that shiit come back to bite you in the

1143
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 6: ass when you ain't seeing no royalty check.

1144
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 7: Because you're paying.

1145
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 3: La spent three hundred thousand, poor started two other slow riders.

1146
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 6: Was stupid ridiculous, right, Nigga, Right now, Ship, she was

1147
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 6: stupid ridiculous back in the days, nigga. And then that

1148
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 6: they didn't give a fuck or you need a million

1149
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 6: here there, gog like this too.

1150
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 9: Though back in the day it wasn't digital too. They

1151
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 9: still was dealing with films.

1152
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, they was dealing with film back there had the

1153
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 6: whole crews and the grippers and the motherfucking assistance and

1154
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 6: all that shit. Niggas motherfucking videos was looking like movies

1155
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 6: and ship all the cameras and the crew services and

1156
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 6: all that ship.

1157
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to get cracking. You know, one thing

1158
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna tell you, I don't know if y'all

1159
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: ran across this catch. I was talking this dude. We

1160
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: had put out a movie man probably about like early

1161
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: part of last year, right, and we was talking to

1162
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: this distributor down on Florida.

1163
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1164
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say the dude's name whatever, but dude

1165
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: was telling us. He was pretty much telling us he

1166
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: wanted to give us twenty thousand dollars. Right, there's an advance.

1167
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: But he said, then there's another twenty five thousand dollars

1168
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: marketing cost that's on the back end. And I was like, well,

1169
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: what's the marketing cost, like, like, what is the marketing

1170
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: for He said, well, I get you prime placement on

1171
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: to B and Peacock and these other platforms. And I said,

1172
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 2: I don't think that worked that way, bro. I think

1173
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: that works by algorithm. I don't think they come out

1174
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: and just to say, okay, you can buy this placement.

1175
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: I think everybody would be doing that. If you can

1176
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: go pay for prime placement on Toby, I think you

1177
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: when you do that, busy, when y'all do that, Tristan

1178
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: Steves definitely every Yeah, So this cat man and I

1179
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: was got to doing the math and I said, bro,

1180
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: before we come out and see it down, we got

1181
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: to try to recoup forty some thousand dollars man, and

1182
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: twenty Ever, it wasn't never even there, like twenty four,

1183
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: what what are we giving you to the other twenty four?

1184
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: He said, well, it's for he and he was, man,

1185
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: he was really even up the even up the advanced amount,

1186
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: I think by five or ten thousand dollars. But he

1187
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 2: wasn't move He wasn't blazed on that twenty thousand dollars.

1188
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: And he wanted the whole rights to the film for

1189
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: ten years. I said, bro, the movie already shot. See yeah,

1190
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: the movie movie already show. He wanted to have the

1191
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: rights to it for ten years.

1192
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 7: I say, what the thing is.

1193
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 5: More than forty did did you get your money back

1194
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 5: from shooting the movie?

1195
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: That's predatorial, that's predatorial at his finess.

1196
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 9: Man, yeah, I mean, but that's their thing though, that's

1197
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 9: that's what they try to do. Like a lot of

1198
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 9: these two be originals, they be locking these filmmakers then

1199
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand for six years,

1200
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 9: six to eight years.

1201
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 7: Like I know a filmmaker right now.

1202
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 9: He did a six year deal for one hundred and

1203
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars and he was like it, and they

1204
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 9: was paying him over a course of six of six quarters.

1205
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 7: I said, there's no way in hell whatever did that?

1206
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1207
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 7: Like I said, bro, that kind of.

1208
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 9: Money is like, we see that in a month, Like

1209
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 9: why would you I mean, the way two be going

1210
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 9: right now, you can see that in a month.

1211
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 7: Or two weeks.

1212
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 9: Honestly, you know what I'm saying, Like, why would you

1213
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 9: say here and give up? He's like, man, it's my

1214
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 9: This is a lot of people's reasoning. This is my

1215
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 9: first film. I just trying to make a couple couple

1216
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 9: of dollars to make sure I guarantee my my residual,

1217
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 9: like that I make back what I spent. I said, Man,

1218
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 9: you're in the wrong game, playing playing them type of games.

1219
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how you start off? How you finished too, taking

1220
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: sucker deals, man end getting sucker deals.

1221
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 7: But that's how for those for those like Media Trisian

1222
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: and Steve.

1223
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 9: For us who hold our own and we take pride

1224
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 9: into our intellectual property.

1225
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 7: Like we wouldn't do a deal like that, But it's gonna.

1226
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 9: Make it bad for us because now to be gonna

1227
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 9: love Look, either y'all gonna take this deal or y'all

1228
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 9: can't get on the platform, so they're gonna start doing

1229
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 9: stuff like that, or we're gonna get the Amazon effect,

1230
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 9: because I don't know, a lot.

1231
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 7: Of people don't remember when before Tube it was Amazon.

1232
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. I was one of the

1233
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 9: ones that was blessed to make good money off Amazon.

1234
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 9: But once Amazon, okay, they flood They flooding us now,

1235
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 9: so let's now they cut down the pay rate, you

1236
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. And then then that's when when

1237
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 9: the pandemic hit, twob jumped up. So everybody, Okay, we're

1238
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 9: gonna go to ad base. But now if you ever

1239
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 9: go look at Amazon, you don't see no movies from

1240
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 9: independent arts like Steve got a movie on that right now,

1241
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 9: but it's transactional.

1242
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 7: You don't get nothing subscription based or nothing ad based.

1243
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 9: With Amazon because they don't want our movies on there

1244
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 9: like that, you know what I'm say. Because we flooded,

1245
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 9: people started flooding them. They didn't want that, they didn't

1246
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 9: want them to be a fact.

1247
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: Doing the same thing. You gotta look at it, Beezy,

1248
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: you gotta name man. Tristan got a name, and obviously

1249
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: people book Tristan because his face is gonna help sell.

1250
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna move to Needa when people see that thumbnail

1251
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: with his face on there. That's how I do.

1252
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1253
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: If I see a movie with Tristan on it, with

1254
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: Gravy on it and Beezy shot by Beezy or Steve

1255
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: or somebody that engineered, I'm gonna go look at it, man,

1256
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: because it's like it's like Coca Cola.

1257
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 7: Bro.

1258
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: It's branded already, right, It's something like a trust. Okay,

1259
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: they ain't just gonna be doing no bullshit, so I'm

1260
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: gonna check them out. I think y'all got enough weight

1261
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: dog to wear. If y'all want to pull that streaming

1262
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: platform off the dog, I think it the work, bro,

1263
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: because y'all think about how many champers. Think about how

1264
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: many platforms that have been built off YOURLL brand, Dug Tubi.

1265
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 7: Is one of them. Toub was built off Independent Film Guarantee.

1266
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 9: Like I remember, I was one of the first films

1267
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 9: put on Toob that was started jumping. I remember my

1268
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 9: first check with Tuby was like three thousand dollars. Because

1269
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 9: nobody knew what Tube was. They'd be like, what's Toob?

1270
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 9: Like it's a free act. We take odds wait for

1271
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 9: it to come on Amazon. But it's the same thing, now.

1272
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

1273
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 9: But me saying that to say is all of us

1274
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 9: putting our independent content, building that traction we built toob

1275
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 9: to be popped off pandemic. Right, What was one of

1276
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 9: the first movies that the first things they seen on

1277
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 9: tube that really made it? It was plug Love and

1278
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 9: they had uh And then that the mcgra as shit

1279
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 9: kicked off.

1280
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 7: Once them movies kicked off, floodgates open.

1281
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 9: So now okay, then I had my movie on I

1282
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 9: got a movie called Wait that was on there, and

1283
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 9: a few other ones like child Support with Christians shit

1284
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 9: like that. It was like the floodgates open. So now

1285
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 9: it was like everybody seeing that they made it. They

1286
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 9: made one hundred thousand dollars on two. Let me go

1287
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 9: over here, so not everybody dropping a movie a week

1288
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 9: on two.

1289
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Man, it could work. I think what it would take though,

1290
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: like we were saying, man, it'll take money, because then

1291
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: people are spending money like man. Like our podcast, for example,

1292
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: is on iHeart right, we on Charlomagne and the Guys

1293
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: platform Black Effect, right, and I look at kind of

1294
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: some of the stuff they do versus when we's independent.

1295
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: It's a difference dog, especially in our audio. It's just different,

1296
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: right because we hitting way more people now. But it's

1297
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: a cost to be paid for that. All we got

1298
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: to do is figure out, man, who the right people

1299
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: you know, who the right people are, man to really

1300
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Speaker 2: make that technology, go to put it in front of

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: them two million, three million people, because it ain't got

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01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: nothing to do with no bots. You're getting in front

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: of real people, man, And this is like a thing.

1304
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: These people have the ability to throw something against like

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01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: two or three million people, dog and kind of make

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Speaker 2: it sticking. Whoever else is left over, that's what they

1307
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: collect and just keep growing from there. So imagine if

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Speaker 2: we can get put in front of two or three

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: million people and we wind up with one point five

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Speaker 2: million every month, you win it in it.

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Speaker 9: But the thing is now that like when it comes

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Speaker 9: to that streaming platform, I think it's a lot of

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Speaker 9: gatekeeping going on with it.

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Speaker 5: For sure.

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Speaker 9: I would suggest, like like you say, we can't be

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Speaker 9: liud with it because I think, what after so long,

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 9: they're gonna be like, Okay, who is these people? We

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01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 9: gotta shut them down? So I think approaching that type

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Speaker 9: of situation. Like you said, we're gonna have to get

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Speaker 9: a name involved with that, someone that can get us

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Speaker 9: in rooms that we that we need to be in,

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Speaker 9: that has to face for it, because other than that,

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Speaker 9: they're gonna shut us down.

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Speaker 7: Quick.

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Speaker 2: Think about what fifty about to start doing. Man, he's

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: gonna open up his soundstage. Man, he's parting with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Get catch though, right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I think so. The Lion's got her stars.

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got some good stuff going on. I think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be one of the people that do it.

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Speaker 2: I think he could.

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Speaker 9: He started, he started streaming platform him and uh, what's

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 9: the name?

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Speaker 7: Dame Dash was.

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Speaker 9: Going back and forth about it. Supposedly has his own

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Speaker 9: streaming platform.

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dame got his own Dame got his own fast channel,

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01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: his own his own streaming platform. I don't know how

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: much traffic he getting, man, but I always support stuff

1340
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: like that. That's the problem is black people doing. We

1341
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 2: got to start really supporting each other instead of trying

1342
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: to clown everything. Dang got his own thing going. He's

1343
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: doing his thing now. I don't know how big it is,

1344
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: but he doing it.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 7: I am always been that guy.

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Speaker 1: To me, Champ.

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01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 5: He put their own channels. Uh, they reached out to me.

1349
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 5: I talked to him. But you know, and it's like.

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: BZ said, it's funny because my man Swift motion picture

1351
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: of a man Swift was at this conference and the

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01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: head of TWOB was there, that the one of the

1353
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: presidents or the head guys, white guy was there, and

1354
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: that's not asking questions about it. I was like, why

1355
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: y'all independence like this, Like why y'all moved us to

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: the bottom of the chef.

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 5: Why y'all not showing to give us the spots that

1358
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 5: we had?

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01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: And the man looked there be so crazy every being

1360
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: Swift was laughing, is like, well, trust nobody gonna be

1361
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 3: on TV no more.

1362
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 5: Like, hey, man, shut the fuck up.

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01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: You get people up.

1364
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 3: So, like BZ said, we gotta be quiet about it

1365
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,959
Speaker 3: because you gotta think about take it from them people.

1366
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: We think, oh if movies, I think about movies. Swift

1367
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: took out his movies, you know McGraw a people took

1368
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: all their movies. Lisa to take all her movies. It

1369
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: was one platform.

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01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: Hey, that's half of the action. Follow Yeah, man, we

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 2: have to talk off. We're gonnad to talk off. Learn

1372
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: like about this man. Now, let's talk about real quick.

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: Man neg just dropped this Friday, right.

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, man negligent. It's a big one.

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 6: Man.

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01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: I called Hollywood and me too be Uh been a

1377
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: couple of Hollywood actors on there, but not like this.

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 5: It's this.

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Speaker 3: This is like, man, I think, like, uh this motherfuckers,

1380
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: like I gave him two million dollar budget and you're

1381
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: looking at him black man. He's had a two million

1382
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: dollar budget for this one. Uh man, you know so

1383
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: my man Trician, you know, craziest fucking ever on there.

1384
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 5: We got Crystal to die.

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01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: My girl Chelby Lee, we got uh man, uh Reggie

1386
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 3: on there.

1387
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 5: We got my man Clifton Pole, my good pile. Oh

1388
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,479
Speaker 5: I'm good.

1389
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: Uh start studying, man, Oh you got up stiff on here.

1390
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: Erica Pickett starts Chaos Chaotic shout out to Chaotic man promote.

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: Uh this is his first movie from hip hop. This

1392
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: is first movie with me on on on the independent side.

1393
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: So uhy mother about Friday.

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

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01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: But uh, hey, man, they think man actors.

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: I think it's because Omark of Goodie and Cook the

1397
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: powerca to the set. I think everybody just stuffed their game.

1398
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: But like even Lee Masters. He and Lee Masters, and

1399
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 3: everybody stepped their game.

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01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 9: The ring on the line, everybody stepped their game up.

1401
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 9: He just he just put everybody around good actors this

1402
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 9: time instead of hire people that can't act.

1403
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 7: That's all. It was just a bunch of talent.

1404
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 2: He keep it real busy looking at this time.

1405
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, because you know, hey, listen, I'm an tell you

1406
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 9: one thing about independent man. People are cheap. And I

1407
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 9: understand why they're cheap because we're trying to stay in budget.

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 9: But I'm one of those people that really like like

1409
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 9: to dive into the real acting, Like I don't really

1410
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 9: care about popularity for real. And Steve O actually gave

1411
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 9: me a bunch of tours with these actors that can

1412
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 9: really bring characters to.

1413
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 7: Life, you know what I'm saying.

1414
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 9: So it was like we were able to have fun

1415
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 9: with this one that actually Christian like Electrician really getting

1416
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 9: his bag. When you see him in this movie, You're

1417
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 9: gonna let this niggas nuts, you know what I'm saying.

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01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 9: So that's just one of those things. But sometimes people

1419
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 9: get lost with the fact that oh I can get

1420
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 9: her for like two hundred dollars a day, and you

1421
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 9: know this and the third, and she's kind of popular

1422
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 9: and it's cheaper for me, you know what I mean.

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 7: So that's all I mean. But Steve oo gave me

1424
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 7: some He gave me some real actors to work with

1425
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 7: this time.

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01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: He gave you some people to work with.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: I know, as long as my boy playing a villain

1429
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: on his mother for this gonna be successful.

1430
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 7: He more than a villain.

1431
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: You re in on this, Tristan, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

1432
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: yes sir.

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, I read, it's playing the bad I

1434
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: read it's playing the bad guy man. Like I said,

1435
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 4: it gives me such a wide range of things to do, man,

1436
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 4: And I think I really get my acting bag when

1437
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: I played play the bad guy. But look y'all, I'm

1438
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 4: getting ready getting my acting bad right now. But before

1439
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 4: I get off of this podcast, Man mc eight, man,

1440
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 4: I want I wanted to say this to the end,

1441
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 4: but I got to get off a little bit prematurely.

1442
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 4: I want to say, man, that you were a huge

1443
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: part of my childhood growing up.

1444
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: Bro.

1445
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: A wax is something that me and my I'm forty

1446
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: one years old, bro, and I got a best friend

1447
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 4: that I've been hanging with us. I was eleven years old, Bro,

1448
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 4: and we still quote you from from Minister Society to

1449
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 4: this day.

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: Bro.

1451
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 4: And I just want to want to let you know

1452
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: that you have been an intricate part of my childhood.

1453
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 4: I've been seeing your lines. Give my mother fucking joint back,

1454
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: both of y'all. I've been saying that since.

1455
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 7: Right now.

1456
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 5: I appreciate the love back.

1457
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: All good, Yes, sir man, we appreciate you coming on,

1458
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: Tristan Man, go on, handle your business.

1459
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

1460
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: We appreciate you much love.

1461
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: I look at my beautiful right here.

1462
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: Uh see, that's how you're able to get away with it.

1463
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: She right there looking at him like this, Okay.

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, but I appreciate the love, y'all. Make sure

1465
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: that y'all go check out Negligence. I promise y'all Steve

1466
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 4: O to not disappoint everything that he just said. Like, man,

1467
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: he put us around as solid cash man. And when

1468
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 4: you're around side of people, man, it's hard to mess up.

1469
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 4: It's hard to fail because everybody is making sure that

1470
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 4: you're policing each other.

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So make sure y'all go

1472
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: check out Negligence this Friday on Tube.

1473
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 7: Man.

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: Make it most popular.

1475
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: It's all good man, we gonna be on him and

1476
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: we get it popping. Yes, I appreciate Homie leaving you Facebook,

1477
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: but shake up out of here. We gonna hall let

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: y'all next week.

1479
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: Y'all gonna watch That's just Friday, Watch Somebody one, two

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01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: and three, unfatched Change and you like commonly the Hole

1481
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: in the Wall, all great movies and b let them

1482
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: know what you got out right now? Pop it.

1483
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 9: Uh, we got cons and Cooeger scripts, pillow talk everything

1484
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 9: with it, child support whatever. Man, just just type, just

1485
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 9: type a Trician physics, a Bzy Jones and it all

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 9: pop up.

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: Well. That concludes another episode of the gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

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Speaker 2: leave a common and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: Chronicles podcasts Norman Stell, Aaron M.

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Speaker 1: C a.

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Speaker 2: Tyler. Our visual media director is Brian Whatt, and the

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: audio editors tell It Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a

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