1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. This 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: is really fun. This is really fun. We have a 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: very special guest today, nineties icon Mark Caldron from Color 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Me Bad. I Want to Say You, which was ugly 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: in the Acafellas episode, and we get to chat with Mark. 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: He's such a wonderful, lovely human. What a great artist, 9 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: what a great singer. This is a great interview and 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: it's he's just really joyful and it's I don't know, 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: I had a great time Jenna. 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: The fact that we're getting to like talk to like 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: I want to sex you up. And all these songs 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: were on the radio when we were growing up. Like 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: these artists, I know added to sort of the songbook 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: of our lives. You know, it's I distinctly remember this 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: being on the radio all the time. 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: I learned all these artists from my brother who've probably 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: listened to this right now, Oh saying, you know, I 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: had influences upon influences to influence me in a different way. 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: So cool. Yeah, yeah, this is really cool. I really 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: like digging into these these musical artists and having them 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: on and hearing their their journeys, because we are so 24 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: grateful to be the glorified cover band that we were 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: with our amazing producers who created these awesome, brilliant covers. 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: But like this is this is the these are the 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: pioneers and the and this is the origins, yeah. 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: The stories. 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: And also he has some weirdly similar connections to high school. Yes, 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: like the glee club. So let's get into it. 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: How are you doing? 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: Wonderful? Thank you guys. Oh man, so nice to be 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: invited to this. This is great. 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. It's not very honored. 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I've got I've got I've got to look cool, 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: so y'all don't mind if I throw in the shade, 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: do you you do? 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: I love it. It's so nice to meet you. 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: Likewise, pleasure, pleasure, thank you. 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks very taking the time to come on and 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: chat with us. It's very exciting. We've started bringing on 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: the artist, the true artist. We always say, like you know, 44 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: we were on all of these, like you know, charts 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: and making records, but like you guys are the real 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: artists that we're we have like the gift of covering. 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: We were a glorified cover band. You are the actual 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: source for anything that we got to do. 49 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, and I watched you guys show. 50 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen them. I didn't see all the episodes, 51 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: but i've seen them a few of them, and you 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: guys do amazing job. And I'm telling you the way 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: you guys arranged the choreography, the music, the vocals, I mean, 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: you guys just really do an amazing job. So you know, in. 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Respect, thank you. That's our music producers. 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a full army. We got to take 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: credit for it, you know, we got to be in 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: front of the camera being like, yes, we did all 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: of this, but it was hundreds of people behind the scenes. 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: As you know, it takes an army to get things made. 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: Did you ever take that on tour like the Glee did? 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Ok yeah, we did two tours. 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Nice, but we were shooting. You know, we were filming 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: ten months out of the year and so on the 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: two months off, we take one of those months and tour. 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: So it was pretty a pretty tight schedule and pretty crazy, 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: but it was really fun, really really fun. 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: Okay, we got to have the little glimpse of what 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: you get to experience, you know all the time, you. 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, you guys are the actors. Man, you 71 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: guys get to the you know, the world, see you, guys. 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: And I'm sure Lee was all over the world, right, 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: is that right? 74 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 75 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: You go? 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to hear all about like calling 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: me bad, the history of it, your high school experience. 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: But tell us about when Glee came to you or 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: to your wraps and you were brought this opportunity to 80 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: put the you know, I want to sex you up 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: on the episode. Do you remember like what they said 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to you, how much context did they give you? Because 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: this was very early on in the show too. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: This is only. 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Three episodes, two episodes, so. 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: Guys, it was really simple. I just I just got 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: an email, an email from you guys, and I was like, Glee, 88 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: I like that show, signed off on it. Man. It 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: was wow. 90 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: You put a lot of trust in the in the process. 91 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: You have good instinct, I think, you know, I think 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people would have gotten that request early 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: on in the show and be like I don't know 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: what this is, you know, like who knows what they're 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: going to do with the song? And I mean we 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: filmed the pilot. Obviously you don't know if the show 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: is going to get picked up and go forward. But 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: I remember Ryan Murphy talking to us about how he 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: wanted the teachers and sort of the guys to form 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: this band early on, and I know, you guys your 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: music was one of the first things that he was 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: talking about to us, if the show gets picked up, 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: we want to do this song and this song and 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: this song. And I just thought, what because I come 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: from sort of a boy band history myself, and like, 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: you guys are singers, right, And he was having like 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: real music singers represented in this very early on and 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: made me very happy. Did you ever see our version 109 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: of the song like what they got to do? Because 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: I was just watching it this morning he was like, 111 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: I feel like they did it justice on my opinion. 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: But I loved it the sex you Up version. Yes, yeah, man, 113 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: you guys, I'm telling you, you guys got the you 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: guys got. Was he the principal, the principal? 115 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Everybody was imagined. 116 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: The coach, We got a couple of coaches, we got 117 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: the glee club teacher, we got the prince, so we 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: got everybody in there. 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, it was great. Are you kidding, yo. You 120 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: killed at the arrangement, the choreography, the vocals. It was great. 121 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: It's very entertaining, you know. I loved it. Yeah, And 122 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: it was funny how how y'all are trying to impress 123 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: who was it? Josh? You are trying to press him, 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: which he loved the whole thing with him and the 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: principle was funny. But that's good. That was good stuff. Man. 126 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: You just never know, you know, like we were on 127 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: those stages and you're doing the songs and you never 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: know if the artist is going to love it, like it, 129 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: and like obviously we wanted the artists to like everything 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: we were doing, but you just never know. 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeahmen, thumbs up up. Y'all killed it. Y'all killed it. 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: That's it. 133 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: We're glad that you're happy. That's all we get hope 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: for absolutely. 136 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: And y'all did an a cappella too, you know, so 137 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: hey there you go. 138 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I hear you. Guys? Were you were in 139 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: acchoir in high school? 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: And was that like, when did the band come to be? 142 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: You guys met in high school? Is that right? 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: Yes? We did, Yeah, we met in ninth grade. I 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: met Brian in the hallways there at Northwest class in 145 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, and I was in my mode of you know, 146 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: I thought I was the greatest singer at that time, 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: and I learned real quick that I wasn't. So when 148 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: I heard his vocals, it just pretty much blew me away. 149 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: And I had just came from singing with my brothers 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: and sisters in a group that you know, we just 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: sort of went our own ways and you know, that 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: kind of fell apart. But I was in that mode, 153 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: like we got to get something going here. So when 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: I met Brian and I heard him sing, I was like, 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: you know, instead of me singing against this guy, let 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: me sing with this guy. And there, yeah, he brought 157 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: in his friend, I brought in my friend Sam and Kevin, 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: and we kind of just started blending our voices together, 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: learning harmonies. I knew that getting in choir would just 160 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: you know, get my voice stronger and learn harmonies at 161 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: that time, and so that's what we did. Sam and 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: I we joined the choir where Brian and Kevin was 163 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: already in and there that's whenever we trained our vocals 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: and learned harmonies. And we went from there, man, we 165 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 3: formed our group there. You know in that choir, and 166 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: we did all them songs. We did a bunch of like, 167 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: oh man, all the classics like Fiddler on the Roof 168 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: and you know, all the great theater shows and and 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: from there, you know, we just started singing like fifties 170 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: do on because that's what we had, and blending our 171 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: harmonies and singing in schools and the girls. That was it. 172 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: It was because of the girls, the girls, and we 173 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: sang for the girls, and they loved it and we 174 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: loved that, and so we continued. 175 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever gets him motivated. Everybody also happened to be talented, 176 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: so it worked out. 177 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it did. Yeah. So there was a Levi's 178 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: Fible one blues commercial that was really popular at that time, 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys remember it. It 180 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: went like string two feed and a bud Tom And 181 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: we learned that commercial. We sang it for the talent 182 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: show there at Northwest class and we just continued on 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: with that. 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Man, that's awesome. What what were you personally like in 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: high school? Were you cool? Were you uncle? What? What 186 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: was your Did you belong to a clique group? 187 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: I thought I was cool, but I don't know if 188 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: I was that cool. Yeah, But I was real kind 189 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: of shy. I was an average student, three point student. 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: I worked really hard for everything that I got, all 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: my grades. I really wanted to be a good student man, 192 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: and you know, but music was my love and you know, 193 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: and making it becoming doing something big. I had just 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: seen the Victory Tour Michael Jackson and his brother and that, yeah, 195 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: and that blew me away, and I was like, I 196 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: want to do that, you know. But so, you know, 197 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: in high school, meeting up with the guys, you know, 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: just trying to make it and try to figure out 199 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: how can we do that? Being here in Oklahoma City. 200 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: There's no industry here, there's no you know, record record 201 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: executives or producers. What are we going to do? How 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: are we going to figure this out? So what we 203 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: used to do was all the big acts that used 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: to come through Oklahoma City to do concerts, we would just 205 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: stalk them down and find where their buses were. After 206 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: the show. We would find out where they were the hotels, 207 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: whatever hotels they were staying at, and we would catch them, 208 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: you know, as they were walking into the hotel or 209 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: walking into the venue, and we would stop them and 210 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: just start singing and hopefully that you know, somebody would. 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: You know, hustle the hustle man. There was no social media, 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: no YouTube. People couldn't post themselves singing. There was no 213 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, justin Bieber fame, you know, being found that way. 214 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: That was the way to do it. 215 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: That's the only way. And we got a lot of 216 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: great leads like you know, we got a chance to 217 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: sing with Huey Lewis and the News up in his 218 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: hotel room, you know, I love and John bon Joey. 219 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: We stopped him him coming out of a movie theater 220 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: in Oklahoma City right before his concert, and he was 221 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: we blew him away with our vocals and he was like, man, 222 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: you guys open up the concert tomorrow night. And so 223 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: we were thinking, how we call your bluff? How are 224 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: we going to do acapella songs in front of eight 225 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: thousand rockers? You know it's gonna work, And believe it 226 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: or not, man, it really came off. They loved it. 227 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: And the best part of that was after we had 228 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: stopped singing, the lights came on and John bon Jovi 229 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: and Richie comes out, vibes, hugs and twenty thousand people 230 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: just going nuts. Man, so that night we got dates 231 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: that next weekend. 232 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I bet you did. 233 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: You better have Yeah, I bet you did. 234 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: Oh good man, what's crazy is I was going to 235 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: ask you if I think you just answered the question 236 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: of it because and glee obviously, the kids who were 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: in the glee club are not the most popular. They 238 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: get made fun of and bully for being the glee club. 239 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: You guys were inquire, but at the same time you 240 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: were hustling on the side opening up for bon Jovi. 241 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: So I imagine your experience in high school in post high 242 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: school when you're doing this was quite different than I imagine. 243 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't so much you guys were looked down upon 244 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: because you were singing. 245 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: That's all we had was our vocals, you know, And 246 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: it wasn't our looks we had, you know, we weren't. 247 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: We weren't the jocks, you know, hearing the football and 248 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: the basketball players. No, we had our vocals, and people 249 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: respected that what we were doing singing a cappella with 250 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: the harmonies. People didn't hear that during those days, you know, right. 251 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: So it was such a unique sound and we were 252 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: able to really make a big, you know, splash there, 253 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: you know. But we got a lot of respect, man, 254 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: from from not only the kids, but from the principal 255 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: and the teachers and all that, and everybody really, you know, 256 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: encouraged us to do something with it. Our parents they 257 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: weren't always supportive, you know, because they were like, god, 258 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, job, the job, go to college and that. 259 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: But you know, we were like, we're gonna go with 260 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: our hearts. You know, this is our dream. You get 261 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: one chance in life. 262 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's happening. 263 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna give it our best shot. And that's what we. 264 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: Did, man, And you did it, and you're signed so 265 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: smart about it too, because something about acapella and when 266 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: you're good at it, it's undeniable where you're just out there, raw, 267 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: exposed with the ability or not. You either got it 268 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: or you don't. And so it's interesting to me that 269 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: in high school and how the principal, like the staff, 270 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: the kids, everybody appreciated respected it because you're not relying 271 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: on any gimmicks. That's why you can go, you know, 272 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: the next night on a stage in front of twenty 273 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: thousand people and blow them away because you actually had 274 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: the ability to do it. The skills we knew. 275 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: We knew we were good after we did, and I'm 276 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: not just saying that we were good. And you know, 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: you know at that time, you know, you had the 278 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: new Kids on the Block that was doing really well 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: on the radio and New Addition, and you know, everyone 280 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: loved those groups, and you know, but we knew we 281 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: had something to offer also, and we wanted to do 282 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: what they were doing. It was just trying to find 283 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: that that bridge to crossover to make that happen. And 284 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: it was actually cool in the gang who actually took 285 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: us under their wings. You know, they wanted us to 286 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: wait till like we graduated from high school, you know, 287 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: to hit that eighteen year old mark, because they wanted parents. 288 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: So that's what happened, and they took us to New York. 289 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: After that, we stayed in the bedroom apartment and we 290 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: got turned down by every record label. Everybody turn us 291 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: down down there. Yeah, and it was Cassandra Mills from 292 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: Giant Records who took a chance on us. And it 293 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: was because of our song that we had written called 294 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: Iador Mia More and that became one of our number 295 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: one hits. So that was it, man, that's you know, 296 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you wonder when you put work 297 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: into something and you know, hard work and you stay 298 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: with it, man, you can make it happen. It's just 299 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: sticking with it, you know, and just be you know 300 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: what I'm say, y'all know this, you guys and everything 301 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: you guys have done. Y'all know the hard work, y'all 302 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: know the hustle. 303 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: So that's right, it is what's important to remember that 304 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: all you need is one yes. You know. It's like 305 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: you work so hard on something you know you're good, 306 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: and then nobody else sees it, and it feels like 307 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: you're crazy. Everybody's crazy. No one sees this. We know 308 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: we're good, and then you just get that one yes, 309 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: one yes, man, and then you just rack up a 310 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: bunch of number ones, you know. 311 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's crazy how that can happen. 312 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: It's almost like it was destined for it to happen, 313 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You just see so many 314 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: people as long as you put in the hours of 315 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: the hard work, it's going to happen. 316 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: Right in high school, how did you meet up with 317 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: cool the gang? How did that connection happen? Was that 318 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: another one of those we're going to stock you up 319 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: for you? 320 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, kind of so they had this campaign going 321 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: on called, uh, It's cool to Stay in school. Okay, 322 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: they were coming in concert and they were going to 323 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: throw a party for all the kids who had perfect attendance, 324 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: It's cool to stay in school. Well, that party was 325 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: during school, so we had a skip school to make 326 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 3: it to that it's cool to stay in school at 327 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: a party. 328 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 329 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So so we were playing hooky that day, but 330 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: it was well worth it because that's how we got 331 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 3: our break. And we snuck into the party and when 332 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: it was our turn to guess get an autograph, we 333 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: just started singing and we caught everybody's attention and from 334 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: there they introduced us to their road manager at the time, 335 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: who ended up becoming our manager, and that's kind of 336 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: how it all happened from there. 337 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I Want to Sex You Up was one 338 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: of your first singles, right, and it's spent a lot 339 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: of time on the charts. Tell can you like talk 340 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: about what that was like for you after all this hustle, 341 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: after all this time and work to like actually see 342 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: it come to fruition, Like, what was that like for 343 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: you guys? 344 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it was so crazy because we couldn't 345 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: see it happening because we were so busy and everyone 346 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: would tell us, Hey, we heard your song on the radio, 347 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: we heard your song in the movie. And it really 348 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: didn't hit me until I remember we were coming out 349 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: of a radio station in Los Angeles and it was 350 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: an early interview, like six am. We were coming out 351 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: and some guy just come flying down the road in 352 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: his car blasting our song. And I was like, oh, wow, 353 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: playing this song. 354 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you know he saw it in the wild. 355 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And and and That's when I knew that 356 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: that that it was really happening. And then we took 357 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: a trip to London and there was a lot of 358 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: girls there at the airport waiting for us, and I'm like, wow, 359 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: that's crazy. Made it. Then people across the pond know 360 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: who we are, and then we get top of the pops, 361 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, at. 362 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: That amazing it was. 363 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: It's great, man, it was. It's a really great time 364 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: in our lives. But it happens so fast sometimes you 365 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: just didn't know you were going through it. 366 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, we feel that resonates a lot. We get 367 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: asked out a lot too, like when did you know 368 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: the show? Was like, you don't, You're just working, You're 369 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: just doing what's asked of you, and you don't. You 370 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 2: feel feel almost insulated from the success of it, and 371 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: you're sort of seeing or experiencing that in the wild 372 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: moment where you see somebody interacting with whatever you're doing 373 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: and you're able to watch it happen, and it's very surreal. 374 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, very real experience, very real, very surreal. Yeah, it's great. 375 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: You've been through a lot with the band, with your 376 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: whole success. I mean, you've been doing this for so long. 377 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: Now you're twenty one, you have just had I know, 378 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, what advice, knowing what you know now, would 379 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: you give your younger self that high school kuld, you know, 380 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: putting in the hustle. 381 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: You know, I always say this to myself. I would 382 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: have learned an instrument. I can play guitar, but back 383 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: then I would have really I would have learned an instrument, 384 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: whether if it was guitar, piano, piano. Maybe I play 385 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: guitar right now, but piano would have been really nice. 386 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: You been able to produce a lot more. I wished 387 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: I would have written more songs like when your time 388 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: is happening and everything you write is being put on 389 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: the radio. I wished I would have written a dozen 390 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: more songs, you know. More importantly, now, I wished I 391 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: would have learned more Spanish, you know, you know, because 392 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: I could speak a little Spanish, but I wish I 393 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: would have been you know, yeah, point, I wish I 394 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: would have learned that. That's what I would have told 395 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: my younger self. Also, I would have said, you know, 396 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: don't take this everything so hard, because I was so 397 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: nervous during those times. I remember a lot of stress. 398 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: You know, good enough, you know, are we gonna do good? 399 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: It was just so much. I took myself through a 400 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: lot and I didn't have to, you know, you know, 401 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: you just take it step by step, you know, and 402 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: know that everything's going to work out. You just be 403 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: your best, you work hard, it'll all come together and 404 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: just like it, you know. And but yeah, those are 405 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: you know, little. 406 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Things are really good. Those definitely. Yeah. I wish I 407 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: had learned a language and played an instrument as well. 408 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's so easy to be hard on 409 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: yourself when you're going through all that too. I really 410 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: you want perfection, but it's like you just got to 411 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: sort of trust and you're like, I admitted this far 412 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: surely I'll be all right when the time comes tomorrow 413 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: or whatever it is we're doing, you know, but it's 414 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: hard when you're and it's hard to separate yourself from that, 415 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: see it. 416 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: It would be so hard to be a solo act 417 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: and go through all of that, man, because you don't 418 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: have anything to lean on. I did have the other guys, 419 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: so that helped a lot, you know, and and they 420 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: were always there for me, you know. 421 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: But you know, it's there are a lot of solo 422 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: artists that say, like touring is a very lonely place. 423 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: It's a really hard thing to go through on your own, 424 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: especially when you've made it bag and it's like you 425 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: can feel very ice, you can feel very isolated. 426 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: It can be a lot of I mean, I know 427 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 3: a lot of people that experience what we had experienced. 428 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: You know, they go through counseling. Now now you know, 429 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 3: you know, I go through these counselings, but just because 430 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: of you know, there was one point in your life 431 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: where everyone loved you and want to take pictures and 432 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: now no one gets to damn about it. 433 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, sometimes you. 434 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 3: Go through that and you know, it's a mind game. 435 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: You know, you've got to know that, you know, things 436 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: change real fast, and this music industry changes so fast. 437 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazter. 438 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Than anything else in entertainment, anything else. 439 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm a fan of the way 440 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: everything is now. I know it gives a lot of 441 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: new artists a chance. With the Internet, social media, it 442 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: gives a lot of people a chance to put out 443 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: their music and get their stuff heard. But I don't know. 444 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if I like it like this. I 445 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: think I like it better the other way, where record 446 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: labels really pour into you and develop you and put 447 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: you with some great songwriters and blah blah blah and 448 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: kind of get you all together and put you out 449 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: there properly. The way it's not just throw you out 450 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: there and see if it happens. You know, I'm sure 451 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: there's a lot of great songs that I still haven't 452 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: heard to this day that just never got it shot. 453 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like a catch twenty two, isn't it? 454 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: Because it's it is amazing that so many people can 455 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: put out stuff from their bedroom and you get exposed 456 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: to all these potential great songwriters and artists they never 457 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: would have heard. But I have the same sort of 458 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: feelings sometimes where you want the money behind the songs 459 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: and the artists that so they can be heard by 460 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: as many people as possible, because it's so hard to 461 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: make a record, it's so hard to get it heard. 462 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: And then now it feels like who it's the luck 463 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: of the draw, if you're if the algorithm shows it 464 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: to you or not. 465 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't. 466 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: You don't know if anyone's ever gonna hear the music. 467 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: That's what you're counting on, is the algorithm, you know. 468 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: How about how about how the nas X You heard 469 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 3: his story? Yeah, oh yeah, he did it for fun, 470 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: the gonna take mine? He did it for fun. He 471 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: did as a joke, almost put it out there. He 472 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: woke up the next morning he had forty thousand downloads, 473 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: you know, and he knew that he had something there. 474 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: So it just happens like that. But man, it's it's 475 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 3: it's tough, man. It's almost like a hitting the lottery 476 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 3: or something. 477 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 478 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know. I feel like that too. 479 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: Reminds me of what you were saying about your guys 480 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: a story. Because he luckily was ready for the opportunity, 481 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: right he That thing randomly happened and then had one 482 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: of the biggest songs of all time, then has backed 483 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: it up with hits after hits and a great album. 484 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: You guys pulled yourselves together and then got this opportunity, 485 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: got signed and then were ready or bon Jovi said 486 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: go on stage and do it, and you were ready. Yeah, 487 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: it's also about you know, who actually wants it who 488 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: as there's a difference between I have an idea for 489 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: a song and I'm gonna put it out and then 490 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: that I want this to be my life and my 491 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: career and I have a lot more to give. 492 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: Right, very very good, very good man. 493 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: Right on, Boyd with that no doubt you said you 494 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: saw the Michael tour, Like who else were your musical 495 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: inspirations growing up? 496 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: You know, growing up in the eighties are the best? 497 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: In the eighties were the best. You know. One of 498 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: the great highlights of our career, believe it or not, 499 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: was opening up for Prints one time. We got Yeah, 500 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: and there's one song that Prince really loved of ours. 501 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: It was our first single from our second album called 502 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: Time and Chance, and he sent us, uh uh, he 503 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: sent us a telegram talking about how a telegram Right, 504 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: that's what we're going back. But he sent us a letter, 505 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, to our agency about how he loved that record. 506 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Man. 507 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: That was like, thank you, that's all we needed. We 508 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: can you know, loved one of your songs, that's all 509 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: it mattered. So yeah, so that was that was amazing, 510 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: you know. Wow. Yeah, man, So there's a. 511 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: Good stuff because you also got to, you know, work 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: with people and meet people that you probably looked up 513 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: to and idolized as a king in Oklahoma City. 514 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: We did. We worked with David Foster on lots of songs. Yeah, 515 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: we did. We work with David Foster. 516 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: He knows a good vocalist, you know, David. 517 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: I mean that guy is he's a genius. But you 518 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 3: know what's cool about David And sometimes he'll get in 519 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: the studio with you and he'll he'll look at you, 520 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: he's like, okay, y'all, guys have any ideas for this part? 521 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: You know, he'll actually bring you in to help oberation. 522 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: And that was the best. Man. You're like, David, you're asking. 523 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: Me, right, you know. 524 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: But Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis was amazing. They were amazing. 525 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: I walked into a room a couple of months ago 526 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: and Jimmy jam was in there and I left. I 527 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: couldn't handle being in the same room because I didn't 528 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: know how to. I well walked in the room, I turned, 529 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: I gasped, and then walked out. 530 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: I love it. Man, Hey, he's the nicest guy. You 531 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: have to probably have to say something to him next time. 532 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: Greatest god man. 533 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: People seemed like he was surrounded by people, and I 534 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: was like, good for you guys, I can't do this, 535 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: awesome dude. Cool. 536 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: Well, well, Mark, we's been such a pleasure chatting with you. 537 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 1: Such a wonderful human and what a great artist, And 538 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your art with everybody and your perspective. 539 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: It's great. 540 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really grateful to have you on the show. 541 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: And are you on the road right now? Can people 542 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: come see you? 543 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. We've probably done about fifty shows already 544 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: this year. 545 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 546 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: Go to color Mebad dot com you know for all 547 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: of our all of our shows, and man, come on out. 548 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: We have a great time. We sing all the songs. 549 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: I see everybody coming in with their nineties gear. Oh man, 550 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: they're singings, they're dancing. 551 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best that were great? 552 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: Really? 553 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, thank you you Mark It's been a 554 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: pleasure talk with you. 555 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, enjoy the rest of your tour. Everybody go see 556 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: them like it sounds like a great time. 557 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: It is, guys man. And when we come out there 558 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: to l A, you guys are gonna have to come definitely. 559 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah right, all right, guys. 560 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, take care, take care, God. 561 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: Bless bye bye. 562 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram at and 563 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 564 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: us a review and leave us five stars. See you 565 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: next time.