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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday, June the fifth, Only one more day,

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Speaker 2: ladies and germs until the NBA Finals. It feels like

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Speaker 2: it's been forever. I mean, the dissection of Jason Tatum

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Speaker 2: is your top five player. I can't take it anymore.

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Speaker 2: or four days into a w NBA controversy and it

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Speaker 2: still is, you know a thing. People are losing their

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Speaker 2: minds right now. It's almost like they need the finals

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Speaker 2: to happen. So finally we get the finals tomorrow. We'll

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Speaker 2: do our big breakdowns on tomorrow's podcast and Best Bets.

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Speaker 2: I did a write up for Fox Sports. It's been

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Speaker 2: a good, not great playoff run in gambling. The last

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Speaker 2: round was not phenomenal. First two rounds were very, very good.

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Speaker 2: But we're actually gonna start today's pod with an NFL story.

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Speaker 2: You guys know how it works now, right everybody is

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Speaker 2: either the host of their own podcast or they go

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Speaker 2: on podcasts and C. J. Stroud recently was on a

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Speaker 2: podcast talking about the careers of Eli Manning versus Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers and c J. Stroud is a bright young man.

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Speaker 2: He had an amazing rookie year. He got it, got

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs, got a playoff win like way, exceeded

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Speaker 2: What's not to love a guy seems like a winner.

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Speaker 2: I remember there was that test that he did not

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Speaker 2: matter at all. He can't process what I mean. He

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Speaker 2: It was. It was a great season. And now he's

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Speaker 2: I think CJ. Stroud comes out and says, and this

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Speaker 2: is a little crazy that Eli Manning had a better

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Speaker 2: career than Aaron Rodgers because Eli Manning has two rings

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Speaker 2: argument of one ring versus no rings. I can understand

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Speaker 2: his career than and you go Xyz. You could argue

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Speaker 2: he has a ring, he was a champion, fine, whatever,

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Speaker 2: But this idea of Eli has two, Rogers only has one.

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Speaker 2: You've got to take Eli's career. I think that is

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Speaker 2: just a horrendous argument. At no point was Eli Manning

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Speaker 2: point was Eli Manning a top five quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 2: I looked, I couldn't find him getting top five MVP

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Speaker 2: votes ever in his career. He had two amazing postseason runs,

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Speaker 2: and I know wins and losses are not a quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: at fine, but Aaron Rodgers literally has him in every

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Speaker 2: single category, every single one. And what's funny is career

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Speaker 2: interceptions Aaron Rodgers one hundred and five, Eli two forty four.

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Speaker 2: ELI was a turnover machine, guys. I mean Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: I don't go by Pro Bowls ten to four Rogers

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowls doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: Which is, you know, the equivalent of all NBA Aaron

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Speaker 2: point of c J. Stroud's young career. Rob, I don't

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Speaker 2: I get the titles thing, but I can't imagine anyone

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, And I like c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 3: Cause that's what Eli Manning's whole career is. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Rod Woodson is a friend of mine. He comes on

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Speaker 3: I'm a Hall of Famer, I'm a gold jacket guy.

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Speaker 3: And for you to even put me in the same

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Speaker 3: Like Eli Manning for what he is is fine, right,

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Speaker 3: Like he's a multiple time Pro bowler, I think, and

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Speaker 3: Brady twice is just the cherry on top. But Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers is like hashtag built different, Okay, Aaron Rodgers ten

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Speaker 3: time Pro Bowl or four time MVP, four time First

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's a weak argument. Now let me

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Speaker 2: not you. A lot of people are saying that, then

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is he out of the clubs? Like, I don't need

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Speaker 2: We could use that as a pivot point to Miami,

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Speaker 2: where Tua hasn't gotten paid. Right, Obviously, Tua's waiting, Trevor

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Speaker 2: Lawrence is waiting, Dak Prescott, They're all waiting. But Tua

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Speaker 2: is starting to get chirpy. And now he has Tyreek

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Speaker 2: Hill is angling for a new deal. I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: And now Tyreek, who's an elite, receivers a little behind

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Speaker 2: I need more money.

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Speaker 2: Are we sure he doesn't need it for all the

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Speaker 2: baby mamas? And now I'm sorry to go there, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you guys have seen Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: still I think in his twenties. He's got like eight

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Speaker 2: in South Florida.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek.

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Speaker 2: Now they're asking for more money, and I know the

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Speaker 3: But there's a little asterisk next to it. The asterisk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he could probably argue the sample size for cold weather.

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Speaker 3: I think his agent thinks that for sure.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, again, Trevor Lawrence has not been great

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good setup right indoors, however, you

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Speaker 2: and I had not thought about this until just seconds ago. Rob.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see. I think what you are discussing

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Speaker 3: just based on heightweight, speed, arm, talent, everything. He is

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Speaker 3: the prototype of what an NFL quarterback should look for.

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Speaker 3: Problem is, he's got a sub five hundred record as

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. You know, his completion percentage is less than

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Speaker 3: to us, his passer rating is less than to us.

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Speaker 3: He throws more picks than to U. But because if

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Speaker 3: I'm picking them in a vacuum media talent evaluators, coaches

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Speaker 3: are always going to go with the strapping quarterback that

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Speaker 3: they quarterback because they feel like they can mold him.

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why Anthony Richardson went so high in

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Speaker 3: last year's draft, where Tua and Dak fall In is

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Speaker 3: neither one of them has what I would call elite talent,

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Speaker 3: but they are just very good quarterbacks. Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 3: a very good quarterback. Brock Party is a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And it's very difficult, I understand, to divorce yourself from

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Speaker 3: the idea of let me get the tools the guy

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Speaker 3: that I can shape and be astronomical b Aaron Rodgers, B.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, B Dan Marino, John Alway type, versus taking

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Speaker 3: a Tua or a Dak or a Party and saying,

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Speaker 3: if I can just shape this guy and mold this guy,

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Speaker 3: maybe he can be Drew Brees and that could be

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Speaker 3: very successful as well. It's just two totally different lines

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Speaker 3: of thinking. There.

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Speaker 2: We can wrap up Rob with Lebron just because it's Lebron.

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Speaker 2: He went on his podcast with JJ Reddick and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he's knowing that they're looking for content

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Speaker 2: heading into the finals, but he was like, just crestfallen

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Speaker 2: over not playing with Kyrie irving anymore. Now Kyrie's the

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Speaker 2: most talented guy ever and Blas and Blas was listen,

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Speaker 2: you guys don't have a checker of history with Kyrie.

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Speaker 2: I'll just be pretty blunt. Kyrie and Lebron were teammates.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie said, straight up, I don't want to play with

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Speaker 2: you anymore. A. It's your team and it used to

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Speaker 2: be my team, and I don't like that. B. I

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Speaker 2: know you're leaving for the Lakers when you're deals up,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get left here holding the bag,

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Speaker 2: so get me the hell out of here. Okay, b

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Speaker 2: Lebron was right, he can do a victory lap over

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Speaker 2: with this to try to make a move on Kyrie

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Speaker 2: when he was leaving Brooklyn. Every Laker fan, maybe outside

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Speaker 2: of Rob g I don't remember Rob's take, but he'll

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Speaker 2: give it to us, was like, get that guy noway,

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Speaker 2: he'll ruin the franchise. You cannot write. I was leading

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Speaker 2: the charge. Kyrie was at rock bottom. Lebron somehow wanted

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Speaker 2: to give him a second chance. So Lebron was basically

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Speaker 2: ditched by Kyrie and then still wanted to go after

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Speaker 2: him in Brooklyn because he knew what was under there.

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Speaker 2: And now Kyrie's in the finals and Lebron, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he's going to get back to the finals.

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Speaker 2: But it's a weird situation for this whole Kyrie thing

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Speaker 2: because we're being asked to apologize. I got my apology

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Speaker 2: out of the way early. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: hold up, lets everybody just admit Kyrie was a colossal

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Speaker 2: f up in Boston, in Brooklyn, and nobody around the

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Speaker 2: league wanted him.

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Speaker 3: Rob Yeah, totally, and you know Lebron lamenting the fact

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Speaker 3: that they're not teammates anymore. Remember the Lakers tried to

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Speaker 3: trade for Kyrie, and I was actually on board with

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Speaker 3: it because I thought I anybody to kee Kyrie and

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Speaker 3: the trade and narrowb be Lebron. But his value across

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Speaker 3: the league wasn't high. I mean, you recalled. The Nets

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Speaker 3: traded him for Spencer Danwiddie, who was brought out two

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Speaker 3: years later, Dorian Finney Smith and one first round twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty nine. Like the Lakers had, they offered both of

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Speaker 3: their first round picks that they had, they offered the

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Speaker 3: expiring Russell Westbrook deal, and ultimately Brooklyn just that we

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Speaker 3: don't want to trade you where you want to go.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna punish you for ruining our franchise for a

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Speaker 3: couple of seasons. So I understand, you know, feeling like

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Speaker 3: you missed out on a great talent like Kyrie. I

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Speaker 3: totally get it. But the fawning little has gone a

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Speaker 3: little bit jumped the shark a little bit. I mean

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Speaker 3: Lebron James saying that he's the most gifted player of

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Speaker 3: the NBA has ever seen, like pump the brakes a

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Speaker 3: little bit. I know, he's got a great layup package

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Speaker 3: and his bag is super deep, but no, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie's good gifted.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm thinking gifted, I think Lebron James

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Speaker 3: is more gifted than Kyrie. Kyrie might be more you know,

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Speaker 3: skilled and because but those are skills that he developed

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Speaker 3: over time. It's not like he just showed up out

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Speaker 3: of the gym and and he's more gifted than the

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Speaker 3: next guy out there. Like Len's Lebron six's eight two sixty,

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Speaker 3: Like that's gift and he jumps out the gym and

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Speaker 3: he can run up four one forty or whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: That's a gift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's a good that's a good way to

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Speaker 2: look at it. Lebron was gifted with the size and speed,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Kyrie was kind of gifted with I

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Speaker 2: guess skill, but I don't know if that's innate or

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00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: it was developed. Obviously. I've watched a lot of these

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Speaker 2: Kyrie videos and he's a marvel to watch that.

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Speaker 3: But he's awesome.

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Speaker 2: It almost feels like Lebron is just kind of not broken,

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Speaker 2: but just depressed.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like we can't get through Denver. Oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota just beat him. Oh my gosh, we don't. There's

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00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: no easy way to upgrade the roster. I just got

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Speaker 2: the coach fired. I want to bring in Reddick. It's

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Speaker 2: like my son's coming to There's just a lot happening

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00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: right now in Lebron's world and he just if you

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Speaker 2: watch the video from from his podcast, I'll just say

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Speaker 2: he doesn't seem super happy. Is that fair? Is that

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Speaker 2: a fair take?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that he's searching for something. It feels like

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00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 3: like he's trying to find a way to cope with

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Speaker 3: the idea of his own mortality, because I think that

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Speaker 3: even he believed that this team, this current Laker team,

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: could have made a run. And now that you're seeing,

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Speaker 3: you know, they felt like they were close against Denver

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00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: and it was four to one, and then they Denver

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: gets blasted or losing in game seven, and the team

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Speaker 3: that beat Denver gets waxed in five games. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: maybe we're not as close as we thought we were.

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Speaker 1: You know, time to regroup, all right.

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Speaker 2: We will regroup and be back tomorrow. Big NBA Finals preview,

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Speaker 2: a lot of gambling. We'll talk to you then,