1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, America, You're a great American. Again the 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show begins. Remember the Hello everybody, This is 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk filling in for the Great Buck Sexton on 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Radio Show. I was with you a 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: couple days ago. Just thrilled to be back here on 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: familiar turf. Buck Sexton is a patriot. Buck Sexton is 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: a hero. It's terrific to be here. A lot going 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: on in the news today seems that it's amazing how 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: upset the left and Democrats get whenever there are measures, 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: wherever there are efforts to try to save lives. I'm 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: on board, children, It's amazing how upset the left, how 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: much they rage, how much victory all there is when 15 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: conservatives and Republicans do whatever they can to protect the unborn. 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: And I want to go slowly but deliberately about this 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: abortion issue. So I got a lot of questions about it, 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of confusion around this topic. 19 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: First and foremost, we have to decide when life begins. 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: We have a universal medically adopted, medically agreed upon consensus 21 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: of when life ends. We can say we issue a 22 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: death certificate of when a life is over. However, we 23 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: do not have that same sort of consensus of when 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: life begins. In fact, there is no agreement, There is 25 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: no sort of determination, for lack of a better term, 26 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: of when that life begins. And so typically those of 27 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: us that are pro life believe that life begins when 28 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: the sperm and the egg meet. This is commonly called conception. 29 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: That is, when there is the unique and magical blend 30 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: of two different beings capacity to reproduce, something happens there 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: that will never happen again. More specifically, there is a DNA, 32 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: There is a mixture that is so unique that the 33 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: termination of that rather intentional such as abortion or birth control, 34 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: are unintentional such as a miscarriage, will make that unique 35 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: being disappear forever. And so that's where we start from. 36 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: Those of us that are pro life, we start from 37 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: the scientific that's right, I'm using that word scientific, the 38 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: scientific fact that life begins. And so the first question 39 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: that I always have when I'm debating people that are 40 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: pro choice, do is they call the being? I think 41 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to call it just as a 42 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: neutral term to describe as they call the being in 43 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the womb a fetus. They say it's a fetus. They 44 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: see it's a fetus, they see it's a fetus. So 45 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: my first question always is is the fetus alive or not? 46 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: And of course they say, yeah, the fetus is alive. Okay, 47 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: So then discontinuing the fetus would be making something not alive. 48 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: What do we call that? Let make it's silent. We 49 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: usually would call that being dead. In order to make 50 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: something dead, you have to end a life. I say, 51 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: oh no, no, that's demagoguery. You're playing linguistical terms. I said, oh, okay, fine, 52 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: what species is the fetus? What species is the fetus? 53 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Because Whoopi Goldberg had this whole deal the other day 54 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: where I think she said it's not a human in 55 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: the womb. She said something along those lines. I hear 56 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: this a lot, and I think about it. Wow, those 57 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: people that really believe in evolution have accelerated their viewpoint. 58 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me that there's a species 59 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: change that happens within the womb, that actually there's something 60 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: pre human about being a fetus that there's something pre human. 61 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: I just said that twice. I'm trying to think a 62 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: better way to say it, but there's something before being 63 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: a human being, about being a fetus. And and of 64 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: course the answer, of course there isn't because the essence 65 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: of what an abortion does is it ends human life 66 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: that is a human being at the moment of conception. 67 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: And so those of us that came that care about 68 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: the rights and the protections of all people. We care 69 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: that as soon as the sperm and the egg, meat, 70 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: and conception happens, that there should be some form of 71 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: protection for that being. And we understand that you can 72 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: live in a very mixed society and that you have 73 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: to have conversations. And you have one form of the 74 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: American political discourse that I'm on that believes abortion is 75 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: abhorrent and horrific and should be reduced that all measures possible, 76 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: and then you have another side that thinks is nothing 77 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: more than cosmetic surgery, it's no big deal, that it's 78 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: just something that needs to be disposed of. And when 79 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: you have that kind of polar opposites, you have to 80 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: understand that, well, maybe we should begin by having no 81 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: late term abortion. How about that no abortion for how 82 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: about let's even start even beyond that, let's not have 83 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: abortion for people that survive abortions. And the Democrats can't 84 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: even agree to that. They cannot even agree to the 85 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: fact that we should not have protections or children or 86 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: for babies that survive abortions. And so there was there 87 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: is a law that was just passed in Alabama that 88 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: restricts abortion that quite frankly, is designed to make this 89 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: go all the way up to the Supreme Court, that 90 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: is designed to challenge roversus weight. And the hysteria on 91 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the left is predictable. And I want to be very clear, 92 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: this is not going after people that have had abortions, 93 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: is going after abortion doctors. And if you have not 94 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: seen the procedure of an abortion, you've not actually seen 95 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the inhumanity that happens, the crushing of the skull. I'm 96 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: going to be as as far away from graphic as 97 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I can because I don't want to get into that. 98 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: But you should go see it for yourself. And my 99 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: friend Lyla Rose at Live Action is very good at 100 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: this and she talks about it quite often. Sure her 101 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: videos are just terrific. And so this issue of abortion 102 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: for those of us that are pro life. We come 103 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: at it from a from a position that every life matters, 104 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: that every life deserves protection. But isn't it always the 105 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: left that is saying that they want to protect children. 106 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Isn't always the left that says we need to protect 107 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: the rights of the unborn. Isn't it always the left 108 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: that says they're not the unborn? The left? They always 109 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: say that we need to protect the rights of those 110 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: that can't protect themselves, the vulnerable, is what I'm saying 111 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: that they always say that we should protect the rights 112 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: of the vulnerable. What could be more vulnerable than someone 113 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: who's in a person that is in the womb with 114 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: no ability to defend themselves. Here's an interesting question. A 115 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: woman says, it's my body, my choice. We as conservatives 116 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: believe that there's two bodies. Therefore, you don't have a 117 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: choice to end that life. Let me give you a 118 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: great example. I'll give you three examples really quick. Number one, 119 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: do you ever notice how when you go up to 120 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 1: a pregnant woman that you might know, you say, hey, 121 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: how's your baby? You don't say how's your body? Is 122 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: that interesting? And I say hey, when's your body due? 123 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: You say how's your baby? Because you recognize there something 124 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: else within that woman. We've already believed this as a 125 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: culture in a society, you ever hear a woman who's 126 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: pregnant say, boy, my baby was kicking last night, or 127 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm eating for two. Now, do you ever hear a 128 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: pregnant woman say that I'm eating for two or you know, 129 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet my child? There's a there's 130 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: already built into our culture that there's another being within you, 131 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: that that there you don't have the jurisdiction over that being, 132 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: just because you're the temperary host. That's a separate human life. 133 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: It's the first thing. In many states this is still 134 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the case. New York has just repealed this, which is 135 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. But in most states, if you kill a 136 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: pregnant woman, it counts as double homicide. If the horrific 137 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: thing that happens, when you actually kill a pregnant woman, 138 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: it counts as a double homicide because that counts as 139 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: is two lives. And do you ever notice that when 140 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: women what do we call I'm here with the producer 141 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: here of the Charlie Kirkshow, executive producer and Andrew and 142 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: of the Charlie kirk Show on Apple podcasts. You can 143 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: download go to Apple podcast type and Charlie kirkshow press subscribe? Andrew, 144 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: what do we call it when a pregnant woman has 145 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: a celebration for their pregnancy. That would be a reveal 146 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: or a something shower? Oh, a baby shower. We don't 147 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: call it a fetus shower. That is correct, okay. And 148 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: so when you call something a baby shower, now here's 149 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: what's so amazing something life should not be determinable on 150 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: object on subjectivity. It should be objectivity. So a woman 151 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: could have a baby shower, be celebrated for her upcoming baby, 152 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and have a gender reveal. I want you to think 153 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: about this really carefully. People could celebrate it. People could 154 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: have either pink or red. What do they do right? 155 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: The different pink or blue? Those the kind of the 156 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: typical ones? Right pink or blue? Based on the gender reveal? 157 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: And then the woman who is pregnant, based on our laws, 158 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: could drive right after her baby shower and then go 159 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: have an abortion. Think about that? Does it make it 160 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: less of a life or more of a life just 161 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: based on her decision? Everyone's treating is it? Is? It? Is? 162 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: It as if it is a child at that baby shower, right, 163 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: they want to take a picture with, you know, the 164 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: expecting mom. She's talking about the nursery, or she's talking 165 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: about the school that the kid might go to, and 166 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: then right after that she can go have an abortion. 167 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Does that mean all of a sudden, make that make 168 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: it seem as if that life didn't exist? And this 169 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: is so interesting because we as conservatives, believed we should 170 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: have objective views on when life starts and when life ends. 171 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: What could be more important than that? I think that 172 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I think you're hitting on a really important topic here, 173 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: because every other litmus test is subjective. Right, If we're 174 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: going to judge life on when it can sustain itself, 175 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, you know my fourteen month 176 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: old can't sustain itself. Does that means she's not a life? 177 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: I mean, they're every other measure is subjective, without a doubt. 178 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: And so they say, well, the I want an abortion 179 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: because I didn't want the child. Whoa you think we 180 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: should just dismiss children that aren't wanted in our society. 181 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: First of all, there are millions of people waiting for 182 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: adoption right now in America. Millions of people in the 183 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: adoption laws are so screwed up. They're so screwed up. 184 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: But you really think we should become a society that 185 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: judges life based on how much we want child. Think 186 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: about that. I don't want the kid. Really. It's called 187 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: taking responsibility for your life, isn't it. And they say, well, 188 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: you know the child can't think for itself, Well, neither 189 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: can a six month year old, six month year old 190 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: couldn't sustain itself. Six month old six month old, not 191 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: a six month year old six month old couldn't sustain itself. 192 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: So you put all these things together, and this is 193 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: why those of us that are pro life are so 194 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: passionate about this topic. I do want to nuance this 195 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: point is that I'm in no way against or criticizing, 196 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: or trying to demonize or women that have had abortions 197 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: at all. I understand that could be a very personal 198 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: and very difficult decision. I know people that have gone 199 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: through that decision. I don't think less of those people 200 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: at all. I really don't. Criticism is towards abortion doctors 201 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: because they know exactly what's going on. They see the ultrasounds, 202 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: they actually do the procedure, and they and their nurses 203 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: actually help engage in those side of processes, and so 204 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: I think far too often the pro life movement becomes 205 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: one that becomes highly critical of women that have actually 206 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: had abortions. So coming up, we're gonna keep talking about 207 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: this Alabama abortion law some of my predictions surrounding that. 208 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: This is Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USATPUSA dot com, 209 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: filling in for Buck Sexton on The Buck Sexton Radio Show. 210 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: You can subscribe to my podcast. Go to Apple Podcasts, 211 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: press subscribe Charlie Kirk Show. We will be right back. 212 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Hello everybody. This is Charlie Kirk filling in for the 213 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: great Buck Sexton on the Buck Sexton Radio Show. I 214 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: am the founder and executive director of Turning Point USA, 215 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: the nation's largest student movement dedicated to educating, empowering, and 216 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: organizing students around the values of free markets and limited 217 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: government TPUSA dot com. I'm also the host of the 218 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show. You can go to Apple Podcasts, type 219 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: in Charlie Kirk Show and press subscribe. I'm kind of 220 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: flipping through Twitter here and I'm kind of seeing some 221 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: of the reaction. I'm kind of seeing some of the 222 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: misrepresentations around abortion. I've asked producer Andrew to read off 223 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: some of them and you can kind of comment on 224 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: some of what you got. Well, yeah, I mean right now, 225 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: abortion hashtag abortion is a Woman's Right is trending number 226 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: two on Twitter, and you've got lots of celebrities chiming in. 227 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: You've got you know, Liam from one direction, and I 228 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: mean some of the listeners might not be as familiar 229 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: with somebody like Liam, but you know, suffice to say 230 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: he holds a lot of sway with younger audience, very 231 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: very internationally famous pop star says, I don't normally I 232 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: don't usually comment on politics. By the way, I love it. 233 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: It's always I don't normally comment on it. Okay, you 234 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: mean you only comment every week when you disagree with Trump? 235 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I don't usually comment on politics, but this 236 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: one got me and is so important, and he quotes 237 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: this whole abortion law thing in America is a mess. 238 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you're completely taking away by the way he 239 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: misspells your which is a pet peeve should be you 240 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: postivie r e. Completely taking away the rights of women 241 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: and the ownership of the bodies, bodies plural that belong 242 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: to them. I mean, and so read that last part again. 243 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: This is your compete, this is more. Oh yeah, he 244 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: did a screen grab of his nay yet completely. He's 245 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: got a whole thing here. It's bad enough that women 246 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: have to go through cycles of periods that can be 247 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: painful without making some of them have to go through 248 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: with unwanted pregnancies that will literally change the course of lives. 249 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: This guy should not be an author, by the way, 250 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: or a columnist the same time. Soon it's like a 251 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: flow of consciousness. Abortion up to a certain point. Oh, 252 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: abortion up to a certain point. Hold On, should be legal, 253 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: always be legal. It's only right that women are given 254 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: that choice to make for themselves. Well, hold On first 255 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: of all his positions and direct defines to the Democrat 256 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Primary and the Democrat Party because they actually don't believe 257 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: they believe in abortion a limited abortion on demand always 258 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: And here's it always bothers me is that it the 259 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: woman is the host of another being. The woman is 260 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: the host of a child within her, and so what 261 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: gives her the full jurisdiction to decide the feature and 262 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: the fate of that child based I do believe there 263 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: should be exceptions. Actually, I do believe there are in 264 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: certain exceptions. I'm actually in the minority in some of 265 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: the concerted moment. I think that rape, incest, life the mother, 266 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: and health of the mother should be reasonable exceptions. But 267 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: just so you know, that's less than two percent of 268 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: all abortions. Solissa Milano goes on CNN and she says, well, 269 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: some women have unwanted pregnancies because a crime gets committed 270 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: to them. And she's talking about insisting rape, and she says, 271 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Republicans want to take that away. First of all, the 272 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: majority opinion of Republicans out there is no those exceptions 273 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: are perfectly fine. Some conservatives think there should be no 274 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: exception for rape, and I respect that opinion. I just 275 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: disagree if that. I think if an act of a 276 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: crime was done to you that results in a pregnancy, 277 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: you should not be you should not be forced to 278 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: have to continue to have that child. That's an act 279 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: of force was done against you. And sam can be 280 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: said with incest, which is a crime against the woman. 281 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: But again that's the percentage. There's a small percentage. It's 282 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: less than two percent of all abortions actually pertained to it. 283 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: What do you got Andrew got some more hashtag abortion 284 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: as a woman's right. Well, you've got Kirsten Gillibrand chiming 285 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: in as well. This is about Alabama just passed a 286 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: near total ban on abortion, no exceptions for rape or incests. 287 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Doctors could face ninety nine years in prison for providing abortion. 288 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: This is a war on women and it is time 289 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: to fight, Like hell, what about the what about the 290 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: young babies that are aborted that are women? Isn't that 291 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: a war on women? If you're aborting women children, if 292 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: you're aborting women babies, isn't that making their less women 293 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: in the world. I want more people. I want more 294 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: people in the world generally and altogether. So this is 295 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: being labeled as culture war twenty twenty. We are hopefully 296 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: going to have an honest conversation. Hey, Andrew, We're always 297 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: though about having an honest conversation, right, how many times 298 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: I hear we need to have an honest conversation about race, 299 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: We need to have an honest conversation about climate change. Well, 300 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: you know what, we can have an honest conversation about 301 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: life in this country. One does life begin? Should life 302 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: be protected? Preserved? Better understood? Does life matter? What protections 303 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: and provisions should be put in place to actually make 304 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: sure that those that cannot defend themselves should be preserved 305 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: and protected. And so this is going to only become 306 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: a bigger and bigger issue. You're going to see the 307 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: left really gallivant, I think try to galvanize this into 308 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: one of their big issues for twenty twenty. I think 309 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: America is becoming more and more pro life. I think 310 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: there it's not going to work well. This is Charlie 311 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Kirk filling in for Buck Sexton, host of The Charlie 312 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: Kirks Show. You're going to Apple Podcast Press subscribe or 313 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: go to TPUSA dot com. That's TPUSA dot com. We'll 314 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: be right back. He's holding the line for America. Buck 315 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Sexton is back. Hello, everybody. This is Charlie Kirk filling 316 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: in for the great Buck Sexton. I am the founder 317 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: and exam I Coultive, director of Turning Point USA, the 318 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: nation's largest student movement dedicated to educating students around the 319 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: values of free markets and limited government. College campuses have 320 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: become islands of totalitarianism. They have become places where freedom 321 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: of speech and freedom of thought are not allowed, and 322 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: instead they have become a place where you must have 323 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: a monolithic, singular viewpoint in order to be respected and 324 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: even have a platform. And as this year comes to 325 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: an end and it's a graduation season, and I reflect 326 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: back on the year of Turning Point USA, and I've 327 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: seen our hundreds and hundreds of campus events that we've hosted, 328 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: and I see the over fourteen hundred college and high 329 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: school campuses that were present on and hundreds of thousands 330 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: of members, and the millions and tens of millions and 331 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people that we have reached social media. 332 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: It's still is not enough. We need to continue to 333 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: push for the values of free markets and limited government, 334 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: American exceptionalism on these campuses where the fight matters most, 335 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: because if we lose the next generation, if we lose students, 336 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: we will have a country that soon becomes unrecognizable. We 337 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: will have a country that embraces socialism, that capitalism. And 338 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: if you don't believe, whatever happens on college campuses will 339 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: soon happen in the halls of Congress. And it's not 340 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: that students are opposed to our ideas, it's that they're 341 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: not exposed on them at all. In the first place, 342 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: I got an alert here that the constantly wrong but 343 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: never in doubt. Congresswoman from New York's fourteen congressional has 344 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: a new tweet, Alexandria asuquittez Alete. She says to bar 345 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: streisand if male politicians could get pregnant, there would be 346 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: as many planned parent clinics as there are post offices. 347 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: Can you can you can you interpret this? Andrew? I 348 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: don't want to man explain it to the audience. Well, 349 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the center of the Twitter 350 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: debate today, not that Twitter is the real world, but 351 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: basically you have a lot of progressive people on the left, 352 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: very very upset at all the men that voted for 353 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: this bill in Alabama, probably Georgia as well. There's pictures 354 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: of their faces going around Twitter. It's sort of attempt 355 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: to docks these men, saying you should not be speaking 356 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: about my body. And I think you know, Alexandro Coasto 357 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Cortez is focusing in on that certainly. Well. And I 358 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: mean AOC who actually is the most powerful person elected 359 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: person of the Democrat primary a party, and it's actually 360 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: probably the most powerful Democrat outside of Barack Obama right now? 361 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Would you say that's true? And and I think the 362 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: Servitis have a lot to do with that, because we 363 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: talked about her all the time. Yeah. I mean there 364 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: was an article in Politico that I think said it well, 365 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: that it was the most hers is the most coveted endorsement, 366 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: endorsement in the primaries, the AOC primary. Oh boy, help us. 367 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: The So AOC had another tweet yesterday and you could 368 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: pull it up or she said, this is really all 369 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: about advancing a core tenant of the conservative worldview, the patriarchy. 370 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest, this is why I wish 371 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: just AOC would talk to conservatives. I talked to liberals 372 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: all the time. This is a super important point that 373 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I talked to a liberal journalists, I talked to a 374 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: liberal TV host, I talked to a liberal radio show host. 375 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: I'd have debate, I've dialogue, I discussion I every day 376 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: every time I go in college campus, I have people 377 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that disagree with us. I invite them to the front 378 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: of the line. We have conversations that are spirited and fruitful. 379 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I just wish AOC would do the same, because she 380 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: had this tweet that was just so wrong and so 381 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: she's like she said yesterday, AOC Alexandria Kazi grdes abortion 382 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: bands aren't just about controlling women's bodies hardstop did anyone's 383 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: did I say anything about controlling anything at all before? 384 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: So she's just misrepresenting it intentionally. They're about controlling women's sexuality, 385 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: owning women hold on saying okay, no from limiting birth control, 386 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: the banning comprehensive sex, said us religious fundamentalists. She's she's 387 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: declaring war in religion. Can you believe this? Are bringing 388 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: clinging to their God's gun in religion? Right are working 389 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: hard outlaws sex that fails outside their theology. Okay. Ultimately 390 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: this is about women's power. When women are in control 391 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: of their sexuality, it threatens a core element of underpinning 392 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: of right wing ideology, patriarchy. Okay, I know right wing. 393 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: By First of all, I hate this term right wing. 394 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. I try to never 395 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: use it ever because I just don't call myself right wing. 396 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: I think it's become a pejorative. And I know the 397 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: conservative libertarian worldview better than most because I live in it. 398 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Patriarchy is not anything that we talk about. First of all, 399 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: what would you have to say to someone like Nicky Haley. 400 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Do you think she's in this for the patriarchy. I mean, 401 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: what do you have to say about someone like Ivanka 402 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Trump or Betsy Devas or Kelly and Conway or Mercedes 403 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Mercedes Schlapp or Kathy McMorris Rogers, who's one of the 404 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: highest ranking women in the House, or Joni Earnst or 405 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: any of these women. They're in this The underpinning right 406 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: wing ideology is the patriarchy. When you actually look at 407 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: the statistics, and we could pull all of them up. 408 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: Men are much more likely to commit suicide in America. 409 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: Women are much more likely to graduate from high school, 410 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: graduate from college, got a master's and a doctorate degree. 411 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: Women comprise a majority of the small business startups. Men 412 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: are much more likely to die while at work. Men 413 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: are much more likely to die go fighting at war. 414 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: I can go through all the statistics, especially if you 415 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: look at unemployment rates of men between the age of 416 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: twenty five. The thirty five unemployment rate is much higher 417 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: for men than it is for young women. I can 418 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: go piece by piece by piece. Women control the majority 419 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: of the financial decisions in this country, but women and 420 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: their thirties aren't a much better financial condition than men 421 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: in their thirties. Yet there's whole idea a patriarchy exists. 422 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: What patriarch are you talking about? They say, Well, women 423 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: don't make up enough board positions on Forbes five hundred 424 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: CEO seats. It's a great point to talk about, not 425 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: a great point to make. Why is it that women 426 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: at times don't make up the highest echelons of the 427 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: corporate ladder? Well, usually women voluntarily eggs of the workforce 428 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: in the late twenties or early thirties to go have 429 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: children voluntarily. No one's forcing them to make that decision, 430 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: no one coerced them. And then making that decision, no 431 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: one told them then to make that decision. They've voluntarily 432 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 1: left the workforce to go have children. The last part 433 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: of AOC's tweet is it's a brutal form of oppression 434 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: to seize control of the one essential thing a person 435 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: should command, their own body. That's the only thing they 436 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: should command, though Andrew, not their spirit, not their mind, 437 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: just the body. But what about the body of the 438 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: baby with in the woman? What about the body that 439 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: of the baby that can't control themselves? And in AOC 440 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: here has one hundred and fourteen thousand likes on this street. 441 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Can you believe, you know, two hundred and fifty thousand likes? 442 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable that, you know, It's always an interesting form 443 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: of projecting. I think when I totally agreement with they 444 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: always go straight to this idea of control, and you know, 445 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I think it's actually more of a reflection about how 446 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: they view the world. They view the world in terms 447 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: of who has control, who doesn't, who has power who 448 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So their whole paradigm of analysis of 449 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: politics is who's currently the people that have power, who 450 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: are currently the people that are in control, and the 451 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: people that aren't in control, the ones that are disaffected 452 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: and are being exploited inherently. Well, first of all, this 453 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: is just so silly because in America large in part, 454 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: those of which that have control are people that graduate 455 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: high school, get married, don't commit crimes, and have a job. 456 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: Amazing combination of success. In America is the only country 457 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: in the world that guarrantee success if you make good choices. 458 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: That's what a meritocracy is, or a country that rewards 459 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: good choices. And so she thinks of this, she actually 460 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: thinks that Alabama passed this law because people want to 461 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: control their people, like, ah, I'm so unhappy with my life, 462 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: my religion says I must control people. Therefore I pass it. Instead. 463 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: The motivation is, we need to end this horror called abortion. 464 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: We need to end this unbelievably bad practice called abortion. 465 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: And we want to have more people in our world 466 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: and have more babies, and what people that are pregnant 467 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: should have those children because we want his life is 468 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: a gift. That's the motivation. So she immediately and I 469 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: think just arrantly, right, would you say describes it in 470 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: a way that is so inappropriate and so outrageous. Well, 471 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: they always avoid the personhood of the baby, right, They 472 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: always talk about that has no identity. All that matters, 473 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: All that matters is right and in the in the right, 474 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: the right political right in this country is not looking 475 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: at it as trying to control anybody. It's saying, there's 476 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: a there's a baby that we need to protect because 477 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: life is sacred. It's as simple as that. We actually 478 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: want to empower the baby, the most um vulnerable among us. Right, 479 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: And if you believe in this, in this idea that 480 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: it is actually a fully human um, It's not fully formed, 481 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: but it is a child. It is a baby, it 482 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: is a child human, it has identity. And by the way, 483 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: you know I I tweeted this out earlier. I'm gonna 484 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: find it right now. And um, which is all the 485 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: characteristics and how quick those characteristics reach it might really 486 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: surprise you if you actually go and and read it. Um. 487 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: And my Twitter is at Charlie kirk Levin. If you 488 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: want to give me a follow, it's always great. So 489 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: just so you know, there are one point two million 490 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: children aboarded every year in America. Only to think about that, 491 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: And so here's another question for the left. What if 492 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: we want to just cut that number in half? Would 493 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: you agree with that? How do we have less abortions? 494 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a horrible thing. You want to 495 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: control people? No, what didn't used to be right? I mean, oh, 496 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of course it's famous for saying we want a few 497 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: and safe, safe, safe, legal and rare. Yes, I can 498 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: never remember that. I should always struggled with that. That 499 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: is three thousand, two hundred and eighty eight abortions this day, 500 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: this ding, in this one hour that I have hosted 501 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Radio show, which I'm honored to be doing, 502 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: there have been one hundred thirty seven abortions in America. 503 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: When you think about that, there's been a hundred and 504 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven abortions in this country since I've started hosting 505 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: this show. Oh my goodness, that does that just send 506 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: up a chill up your spine? There have been nine. 507 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: There were nine during our commercial break. And in the 508 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: twenty six seconds that I have described this entire tweet, 509 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: there was another abortion. Let me you to think about that. 510 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: Just when I started talking about my Twitter. There's already 511 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: been another abortion like this every twenty six seconds. And 512 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: if you sort of zoom out since Roe v. Wade 513 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: right in nineteen seventy three, I mean, there's been over 514 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: sixty million abortions. It's a number so unconscionable it becomes 515 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: almost like the national debt. You become desensiti You can't 516 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: actually put a number that large into context in your mind. No. No, 517 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: And so at eighteen days, did you know a baby 518 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: hearts beat, baby heartbeat starts. Did you know at forty 519 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: two days, brain waves are detected. Did you know at 520 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: fifty two days a baby can hick up and yawn? 521 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: At eight weeks, all organs are functioning. At nine weeks, 522 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: a baby has fingerprints, At ten weeks, a baby can 523 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: feel pain, and at twelve weeks babies can smile. It's 524 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Yet Democrats don't even want to have late 525 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: term abortion restrictions that allow that would restrict abortion with 526 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: all these different categories. And just in this break that 527 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: we're about to take right now, and I hope you 528 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: hang with us, because we got more stuff coming. There 529 00:30:54,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: will be another nine abortions in just the break we 530 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: have coming up right now. Nine babies will be aborted 531 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: in just this break. It's horrifying. This is Charlie Kirk 532 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: filling in for Buck Sexton on the Buck Sexton Radio Show. 533 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Can follow me on Twitter at Charlie kirklevn TPUSA dot com, 534 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirkshow, and Apple Podcast. We'll be right back. Hello everybody. 535 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: This is Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, the 536 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: nation's largest student movement dedicated to educating, empowering, and organizing 537 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: students around the values of free markets and limited government, 538 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: the Constitution, and of course American exceptionalism. We live in 539 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: the greatest country ever to exist in the history of 540 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the world. It is a blessing that we live in 541 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: this country. We should be thankful that we live here, 542 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: not angry that we live in this country. The horse 543 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: race continues and the Democrat primary I call it the carnival. 544 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: I think the circus gives it too much credit, but 545 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: it's the carnival. It is amazing. I agree with this 546 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: assessment completely. I think Kevin McCarthy hit it on the 547 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: head when he said this, Joe Biden will be the 548 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: Jeb Bush of this cycle. Good for Kevin McCarthy. That's 549 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of like an insult, isn't it, mister producer? I mean, 550 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty pretty harsh, pretty harsh. Yeah, it's Kevin McCarthy's energy Jeb, 551 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: low energy Joe or flip flop Joe. What do you think, 552 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: creepy Joe. I like creepy Joe. I don't like him. 553 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: I like the term creepy Joe. But I think he 554 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: is going to be the Jeb Bush, or he already is. 555 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the front runner. He's raising all the 556 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: money and just wait, the knives are going to be out. 557 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: And I know some liberal activists on Twitter and I 558 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: follow him, Boy do they have anger towards Joe Biden? 559 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: And what an AOC I'll be I don't want to 560 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: say the word on radio something if we're gonna let 561 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: the people that screwed up our climate now going to 562 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: be our nominee or something like that, it's typical. Well 563 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: what did she say? She said, conservatives on both sides 564 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: of the aisle, and she was definitely talking about Joe Biden. 565 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: But this is really important. It shows that that the 566 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Democrat Primary, that the Democrat circus or carnival or whatever 567 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: you want to call it, the Democrats show has become 568 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: as I like to call other as, like I say, 569 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the Trump hating Olympics and whoever can be the most 570 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: radical person in the room. It's quite it's quite extraordinary. 571 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: It's not good for the country either. There there are common, 572 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: decent sense things that our country needs, like an infrastructure proposal. 573 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: All these things have become impossible because the Democrats hate 574 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump a lot more than they love America. They 575 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: hate him so much that at all costs, no matter 576 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: what's what is it going to take, they have to 577 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: oppose him, no matter what it is, they have to 578 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: oppose him. And it's too bad because there this country 579 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: is needing right now for bipartners and approval of a 580 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: variety of different things. And so just wait, you're going 581 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: to see Bernie Sanders, You're gonna see Elizabeth Warren, You're 582 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna see Peepooha, Judge. You're gonna see Kamala Harris start 583 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: to unite against Joe Biden. You're going to see them unite. 584 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: And I think I think I think we're underestimating how 585 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: quick and how sudden and how dramatic the fall of 586 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's gonna be. At least in my estimation, that's 587 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: what it's going to be. And so I guess the 588 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: question is this, I'm just reading this headline right now 589 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: that some Hollywood actress poses naked in protest of Alabama's 590 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: abortion bill passing. What is that supposed to me? Emily 591 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: radj Dakowski. By the way, it was a female governor, 592 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: wasn't it that signed the bill? Is it not? It 593 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: was It was a female So the war on women 594 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: is being launched by a female governor. Go figure that one. 595 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: But oh, you know, she doesn't really care about women, 596 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah that whole thing. 597 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: And so, as Tucker Carlson said, this is exactly how 598 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: the function of government is supposed to work, is that 599 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: you put people in place, you have people in positions 600 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: of power, and then you have policies based on the 601 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: people that you actually put in those positions of power. 602 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: And I find it so amazing, kind of going back 603 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: to my earlier point, and how passionate the Democrats have 604 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: become to make sure that the lives of the unborn 605 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: will never see the light of day. And we see 606 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: this a lot. The anger and the vitriol and college 607 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: campus is the work that we do at Turning Point USA. 608 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: At Turning Point USA, we are trying to fight America's 609 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: culture war around the values of constitutional liberty and free 610 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: markets and limited government. And we find so often that 611 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: the students on the left just have contempt and victriol 612 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: and are so programmed around these perspectives that you can't 613 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: tell them anything different. And that's exactly why we are 614 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: doing what we are doing. And I do anticipate this 615 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: abortion fight to heat up even further. I do anticipate 616 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: this to intensify heading into twenty twenty. Well, this has 617 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: been a fun first hour. We're going to be around 618 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: for another couple so hang tight here at the buck 619 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Radio Show. Do you like what you heard? Go 620 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: to Apple Podcast and subscribe on the Charlie Kirk Show, 621 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Standard remission, decoding the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence. 622 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: Make no mistake America, You're a great American again. This 623 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: is the buck Sexton Show. CIA analysts remember the Hello everybody, 624 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: this is Charlie Kirk. Welcome the hour two of the 625 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Radio Show. Filling in for my good friend here. 626 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: I am the founder of Turning Point USA, the nation's 627 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: largest student movement dedicated to educating, empowering, and organizing college 628 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: and high school students around the values of free markets 629 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: and limited government. We believe America is the greatest country 630 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: ever to exist in the history of the world. I'm 631 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: also the host of the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, which 632 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: can be found on Apple Podcast. If you have an 633 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: Apple device, just open up that podcast app, type in 634 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirks, press subscribe. It really helps us out. I'm 635 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: joined here by the executive producer of The Charlie Kirkshow, 636 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Sir Andrew hell And it is quite extraordinary, isn't it, Andrew? 637 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: Just seeing the Democrats outrage of having more children in 638 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: the world. They are very upset today. They're even posing 639 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: in the nude in protest as actress Emily Rotski. I 640 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: think I follow her on Instagram, say in Alissa Milano 641 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: is of course in the mix as well. And it 642 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: never ceases to amaze me how how extreme the Democrats 643 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: are willing to go just to oppose Donald Trump. It 644 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: seems no matter what the issue is, how whatever it 645 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: takes to oppose him at all costs. It is the 646 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: appeach at all costs caucus. And it's gonna be interesting 647 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: to see actually on the debate stage when they do 648 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: have a debate, when people actually disagree and say, I 649 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: don't know if we should this impeachment thing. Oh, you're 650 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: really a conservative, you're bought by the right, You're all 651 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: these things. I do have to say, I have to 652 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: go after somebody in particular, Elizabeth Warren. Can you find 653 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: the exact language she used about Fox News? Can you 654 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: find the exact language Elizabeth Warren? And an attempt maybe 655 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: to I don't know, get attention. I mean I really 656 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: respected and appreciated Amy Klobachar and Bernie Sanders going on 657 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: Fox News and actually having a town hall, mayor. Pete's 658 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: doing it as well, Pete Boodh Jedge And anyway, I 659 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: have to say President Trump pronouncing Buddha Judge the other day. 660 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: It was one of the funniest things you got, Pete 661 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: boot Edge Edge, It's very funny. But what did Elizabeth 662 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: Warren say about Fox News but her exact she said, 663 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: a Fox News town hall adds money to the hate 664 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: for profit machine, to which I say, hard pass. I 665 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: think she said something about it being a network for 666 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: racists or something like that, pulling it up. I mean 667 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren's she goes on and on and on all 668 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: through this. She says, I love town halls of then 669 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: more than seventy cents January. I'm glad to have a 670 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: television audience to be part of the Fox News has 671 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: invited me to do a town hall, but I'm turning 672 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: them down. Here's why Fox News is a hate for 673 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists. 674 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who she's talking about. I mean, she 675 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: must be talking about her friend, Louis Farracon. It's designed 676 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: to turn us against each other, risking life and death. 677 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: Consequences to provide cover for the corruption that's rotting our 678 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: government and hallowing out our middle class. She's this is 679 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter, by the way, is Elizabeth Warren. She goes 680 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: on and on goodness five paragraphs, here was a more racist. 681 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: I won't ask millions of Democrat primary voters to tune 682 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: into an outlet that profits from racism and hate in 683 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: order to see our candidates. It's you know, what really 684 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: upsets me about this is that when everything becomes racist, 685 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: nothing is racist. There are actual racists in American society, 686 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: and they should be condemned and they should be ostras. 687 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: But when Elizabeth Warren says a network with viewers throughout 688 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: a week of fifteen to twenty million people and five 689 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: million a night that watch on primetime are just all 690 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: racist to hate for profit machine, she's trying to indict 691 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: an entire segment of the American population. What kind of 692 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: contempt and what kind of anger is within her to 693 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: say something like that? And it's really too bad because 694 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders. So what is she saying? Bernie Sanders is 695 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: okay with appeasing races? Is her way to like attack 696 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: other people in the primary. Pete poota Judge or Amy Klobuchar, 697 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: that they're somehow okay with it and she's not. And 698 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: it's this sort of attack on the main institutions on 699 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: the conservative arena. And so, if you have noticed how 700 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: the left has reignited their war on Russia, Lumba, They've 701 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: reignited their war on Sean Hannity, on Tucker Carlson on 702 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: Fox News, on the think tanks such as the Judicial 703 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: Crisis Network. It's like, all of a sudden, the left 704 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: is realized that there is a well built conservative infrastructure 705 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: that is now behind Donald Trump completely. And it's not 706 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: just the war on Trump. It's behind all the organizations, 707 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: It's behind the pundits, behind the companies, behind the media 708 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: networks that are also in harmony with Donald Trump. And yes, 709 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: Fox News is a singular piece of opposite opinion on 710 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: all the cable networks. Every cable network agrees on the 711 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: exact same thing on every single issue. You go to CNN, MSNBC, HLN, ABC, CBS, NBC, 712 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: they agree on every single issue, no matter what it is. 713 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: Not to mention Washington, Washington Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, 714 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: La Times, you name it. Every major network, and then 715 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: you have not to mention the online having the post. 716 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed and Fox News is the singular, the singular different 717 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: voice on cable, and they get all of the hate, 718 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: all of the boycotts, all of the attention, and for 719 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: doing what for having a separate opinion, for having a 720 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: difference of opinion, for having a perspective that might be 721 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: a little bit out of what would be called the 722 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: Beltway ordinary, and they say they give credence to racists 723 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: and all this whole n A second, the most racist 724 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: stuff I've heard of been on networks like CNN where 725 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Bakari Sellers said, I'm not going to say it on 726 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: air because it's so bad. He said something horrible abou 727 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: Kanye West and insulted him using a racial pejorative. I'm 728 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: not going to say it. I mean, I can go 729 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: time and time again of horrific things that are set. 730 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: I'll give you another example on the MSNBC in the 731 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: last couple in the last months, you had to contribute that. 732 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: And this is this is one of the most racist 733 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: things that the left always says. The left says is 734 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: all the time they say, well, we need illegals because 735 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: who else is going to pick our vegetables and clean 736 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: our houses. That's such a racist thing to say, to 737 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: say that illegal aliens are good for nothing more than housework. 738 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: And they said this on MSNBC. It goes completely unanswered. 739 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: And so Elizabeth Warren believes just because a network might 740 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: challenge her on her fake Native American ancestry, that might 741 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: challenge her on her socialist ideas, that I challenge her 742 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: on her radicalism. Somehow she is not able to go 743 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: on there. And she says, I'm not going to give 744 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: them a problem, you know, I hate for profit machine instead. 745 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember, Andrew, maybe you could enlighten me how 746 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: many town halls did MSNBC do with any of the 747 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: candidates for the Republican candidates back in twenty sixteen. I 748 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: don't think they did any of them. So if it 749 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: was really like a hate for profit thing, Elizabeth Warren, 750 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: why didn't the other ones do it? Why didn't the 751 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: other ones give credence to that? Well? I think this 752 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: goes back to what you're always saying about how the 753 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: UH the Democratic Party right now, there's so many candidates 754 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: they're forced to follow, radicalize, the forced to find ways 755 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: to stand out from the back. And this seems like 756 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: a very transparent attempt at saying, well, okay, well, if 757 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: Bernie and me are often lumped into the same group, 758 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: well how can I out Bernie Bernie, I'm gonna I'm 759 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna stick it to Fox, even though you know, Bernie 760 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: Sanders obviously did his town hall with Fox and it 761 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: was by all accounts of great success for his campaign. 762 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: So to go to one of my favorite heroes in 763 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: AMR in con cinema history, Kelsey Grammar, none other than 764 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: Frasier Krane. He was a great radio show host two 765 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: on KCl seven eighty, the Seattle Talk of Hello, everybody, 766 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: this is doctor Frasier Crane. The Frasier fans out there, 767 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: Kelsey Grammer said, says Trump has accomplished more than the 768 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: Washington clowns have in sixty years. Washington didn't do us 769 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: any favors. I love Kelsey Grammer. He's been a rock 770 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: solid conservative Republican for years. And actually one of his 771 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: best performances Andrew was in the television series about the 772 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Chicago mayor. It was called So I can't remember the 773 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: name of It was excellent, excellent, excellent. Well, the listeners 774 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: might not know that you are a proud Chicagoan. I 775 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: am a proud Chicagoan. So you know what the fun 776 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: thing about being from Chicago is we have term limits 777 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: in Illinois. One term in office, one term in jail, 778 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 1: and we always we vote early, vote often. My grandmother 779 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: passed away in them in nineteen nineties. She's been voting 780 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: Democrat ever since. And you know, it's actually seeing a 781 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: profile in a Chicago mayor with something quite enlightening and 782 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: quite fun and so kind of going going back to 783 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: this idea of Elizabeth Moore and boycotting Fox News and 784 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: boycotting the conservative networks. Andrew, isn't it an amazing You've 785 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: been to a lot of my campus events Attorney Point, USA. 786 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: You've been to a lot of my kind of campus outreach. 787 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: Is it incredible how the left stays away from conversation, 788 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: how conservatives want to go towards the conversation. Isn't that 789 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: how you can tell who's on the right side of 790 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: the issue and who's actually on the proper side of discussion. Well, 791 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: I think you know the conservatives, at least on campus 792 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: for example. I mean, there's just so much more pressure 793 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: on conservatives there that their arguments actually get better and 794 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: better and better, and the student activists get their messaging honed, 795 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: and they have to challenge their assumptions, and what you 796 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: end up having is activists on campus that are way 797 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: more effective. I think the modern left needs to take 798 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: a page out of the conservatives on campus that when 799 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: you get challenged, you get better well, and then you 800 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: embrace it. And so if Elizabeth Warren wants to be president, 801 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren wants to be president of this country, she's 802 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to talk to people like Fox News and 803 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. This is what I love about Donald Trump. 804 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: From the day Donald Trump announced he was doing he 805 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: was doing interviews with anyone, he was doing well. Now 806 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: he's been deep platformed. But yeah, exactly, they won't shows 807 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: his rallies anymore because they realized they might have contributed 808 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: or yeah, or that they actually might convert other people. 809 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: My favorite is, you know, Donald Trump used to do 810 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: phoners with CNN. He used to call into CNN and 811 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: just take a whole hour. I mean, the guy would 812 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: talk to anybody. He'll take any question about anything, and 813 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: if he has a problem with it, he'll tell you. 814 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren is a coward. She is a coward for 815 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: not wanting to go on Fox News, for actually hearing 816 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: a difference of opinion or sharing your different opinion. You 817 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: know what I actually respect about Bernie Sanders. You know 818 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,959 Speaker 1: what he said. He said, Well, there might be people 819 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: that watch Fox News that have a bad opinion of me, 820 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: and I want to give them a good one. Good 821 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: for him. That's exactly what civil discourse is all about. Right, 822 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: That's what dialogue is all about. You should not be 823 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: afraid here or say something that people might be disagreeable. 824 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: And this whole decision just sort of reeks of a 825 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: basket of deplorable's type of of statement. You know, I mean, 826 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: you're you're talking to an audience or a network that 827 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: represents roughly half of the American electorate. Yeah, that's exactly, 828 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: but not all of them. Obviously, not all conservatives like 829 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: Fox or listen to Fox. There's a lot of critiques 830 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: of Fox. But you're talking to a roughly half of 831 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: the electorate that put President Trump into the Oval office. 832 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: And then she has the gall and really the audacity 833 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: to say, you know, hey, listen, you're a hate for 834 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: profit routet. And then you guys advance racism and It's 835 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: essentially it's like saying basket of deplorables or what else? 836 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: What irredeemable? It is what she said Trump supporters are irredeemable, right. 837 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: I think this is going to come back to haunt her. 838 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: She might see it as useful in the primaries, but 839 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: if you know she was to you know, make it 840 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: any any farther, you know this is going to be 841 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: a problematic thing to say. I totally completely agree. This 842 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: is Charlie Kirk filling in for the Buck Sex Then 843 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: radio show. We're gonna be talking about school choice and 844 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: my column that just got published in The Hill. If 845 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: you like what you're hearing, you can go to an 846 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: Apple podcast type and Charlie Kirk show Press subscribe, Founder 847 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: of Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com. We will be 848 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: right back. Hello everybody, This is Charlie Kirk filling in 849 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: for Buck sex Then on the Buck Sex Then Radio show. 850 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: Having a lot of fun here on the founder of 851 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: Turning Point USA. And you go to TPUSA dot com 852 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: you want to get more involved on the culture war 853 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 1: on college campuses. I just have a new piece out 854 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: for The Hill where I say let's talk about education 855 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: and school choice in twenty twenty. And this is so 856 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: important because I believe this is the issue that could 857 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: break the back of the Democrat Party. I believe that 858 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: this is the issue that could change the fabric of 859 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: the political discourse and could also change the political dynamics 860 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: as we know it. It is immoral and it is 861 00:48:53,040 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: wrong that there are students, particularly minority students, that are 862 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: stuck in these perpetually failing public schools. That students are 863 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 1: being forced to go to schools with teachers that should 864 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: be fired, lowly motivated administrators, underfunded schools, and so I 865 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: talk about school choice as the ability for parents to 866 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: be able to send their kids to better schools. We 867 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: have over fifty million students primary and secondary students enrolled 868 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: in schools in the United States. A great example of 869 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: this was the Milwaukee Parental school Choice program. This was 870 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: the vision of Milton Frean. Milton Freeman, one of my 871 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: intellectual heroes, was a champion of school choice, and this 872 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: was implemented in nineteen ninety and there are twenty now. 873 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: There are voucher systems all across the country. In the 874 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Parental school Choice program has been one of the 875 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 1: most successful school choice experiments in history, raising test scores, 876 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: raising literacy rates, lowering crime, and you name it. Yet 877 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: But unfortunately it is the education unions and liberal politicians 878 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: that say we need to spend more money in education. 879 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: But if we actually had a school choice plan, the 880 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: public schools would then have the pressure to better spend 881 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: the money they're already having. It is not a funding problem, 882 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: believe it or not. We have thrown more and more 883 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: money at public schools, like, for example, in Chicago between 884 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eighteen, they were the CPS Chicago 885 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: Public Schools. We're bringing in more than two hundred dollars 886 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: more per student. The total of five thousand, three hundred 887 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: twenty dollars per high school students is not factor in 888 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: the funding from the state of Illinois. That is far 889 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: less than it costs to educate a student on in 890 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: private schools or in charter schools in the city of Chicago. 891 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: And I believe this is such an important issue because 892 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: not only rarely do you have an issue that is 893 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: the right policy, but also really really good politics, and 894 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: also the other side cannot contend with it. The other 895 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: side can not promise, the other side cannot respond to 896 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: the fact that students are failing because of Democrat politicians, 897 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: failing public schools and teacher unions. Their only response is 898 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: we need to throw more money at the problem, where 899 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: he's like, well, why don't why can't we send that 900 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: kid to this school? Oh? Well, and then they lose it. 901 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: The teacher unions have disallowed Democrats from talking about this 902 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: issue altogether. The teacher unions which own the Democrat primary, 903 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers, 904 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: the two major teacher unions in this country. They own 905 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: the Democrat primary, they own the American left. They do not, 906 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: they will not allow, and they do not allow politicians 907 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: on the left to talk about this issue. So rarely 908 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: do you get this perfect trinity, this intersection where you 909 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: have really good policy that will improve people's lives, you 910 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: have the ability to draw differences with your opponent on it, 911 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: and it's also very popular. It's very popular. Eighty percent 912 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: of the American people ninety support school choice. And I 913 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: think that we are missing this issue because what could 914 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: be more personal for a mother or for a family 915 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: than sending your child to a good school or sending 916 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: your child to a better school. What could be more 917 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: personal what could be more important than improving your life 918 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: and improving your kid's life than sending your child to 919 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: a school that allows them a higher likelihood to get 920 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: skills and a higher likelihood to succeed in their life. 921 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what school choice does. School choice is 922 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: the issue that could break the back of the Democrat 923 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: Paria primary. And I could tell you the work that 924 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing at Turning Point, USA and on college campuses. 925 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: I find so often that students that think they're liberals 926 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: totally and completely agree that our education system is total nonsense, 927 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: that it needs to be rewired, that are educated. System 928 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: needs to be changed to allow low income, particular minority 929 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: students the freedom. And that's really what it's all about. 930 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: The freedom to be able to go to a better school, 931 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 1: the freedom to be able to pull that parental trigger 932 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: to be able to go to a school that succeeds. 933 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: Because if we do not have a society or a 934 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: culture that respects every individual's right to education, or I 935 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: should rephrase that every individual's access to education, then we 936 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: are going to continually have this endless cycle of poverty 937 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: and violence that plagues our inner cities. How are we 938 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: going to break that cycle schools that work. And what's 939 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: so frustrating is that now we are having millions and 940 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: millions of illegals come into our country that will then 941 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: be put in these very failing public schools where they're 942 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: more likely to live in poverty. If you go to 943 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: a failing public school and you're not taught to read, 944 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 1: if you're not taught to write, if you're not taught 945 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: to do math, you're far less likely to succeed. You're 946 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: far less likely to be able to contribute meaningfully. And 947 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: because of that, we then have an entire portion of 948 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: the American population that is disenfranchised and feels really disenfranchised. 949 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: So they turn to government benefits. They turned to the 950 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: government dole, they turned to social welfare. And when that happens, 951 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: you have an entire portion of the American population that 952 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: then becomes Democrat voters. And so school choice is an 953 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: issue that is good policy. It improves people's lives, It 954 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: could increase the standard of living for all people, and 955 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 1: it can elevate it can elevate the perception that Republicans 956 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: and Conservatives don't care about the inner cities. I think 957 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: conservatives should have an ambitious urban agenda. I think Conservatives 958 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: should have a school choice, opportunity zone, small business agenda 959 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: that could totally change the dynamics of politics within our 960 00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: inner cities. I have never been more focused on an 961 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: issue that I think could break the back of the 962 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: Democrat primary and put Republicans and majorities in state houses 963 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: in Congress permanently because the Democrats can't support this issue. 964 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that again, Democrats cannot support this issue 965 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: because their number one special interest group, the American Federation 966 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 1: of Teachers in the National Education Association, own their party. 967 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time at Turning Point 968 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: USA TPUSA dot com. And students are so passionate about 969 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: allowing their peers or allowing their brothers, their sisters, or 970 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: other students that are in elementary and high school education 971 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: go to better schools. Do you like what you're hearing? 972 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: Go to Apple Podcasts. Subscribe Charlie Kirkshow Press Subscribe helps 973 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: us out, give us five stars Apple Podcast Charlie Kirkshow, 974 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com, Turning Point USA. We'll be right back, 975 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: all right, welcome back. This is Charlie kirk filling in 976 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: for Buck Sex. Then on the Buck Sex then radio 977 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: show founder of Turning Point USA, the nation's largest student 978 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: movement dedicated to educating and powering and organizing students around 979 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 1: the values of free markets and limited government. My friend 980 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: and mister producer of the Charlie kirk Show Charlie Kirkshow 981 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: podcast that you can find an Apple podcast reminded me 982 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: of some of my predictions. Yeah. One of the things 983 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,840 Speaker 1: we've been covering a lot in the shows, if you 984 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: guys have been tuning in, is that, you know, Charlie 985 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 1: has a hunch that they're, you know, the front runner 986 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: and the Democratic Party for twenty twenty has not yet 987 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: emerged despite all the buzz around Vice President Biden. You know, 988 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 1: Charlie's I mean, you've said this time and time again 989 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: that you think he's gonna get eaten up by the 990 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: progressive wing of the Democratic Party. You will be devoured 991 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: by the radical Democrats that have taken over this party. Well, 992 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: and it's been really impressive since you've sort of made 993 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 1: those predictions on the show. It's like every day it 994 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: seems like somebody else is entering the fray, you know, 995 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 1: whether it be Mark Cuban or now most recently de Blasio. Well, 996 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: so I have to talk about da Blasio. This is 997 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: really interesting. Imagine being the worst at something and then 998 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: think you can be president. He is the worst mayor 999 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: in America. He really is. I mean, I used to 1000 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 1: love New York City. I know there's probably a lot 1001 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: of listeners listen to this from New York. I love 1002 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: New York under Mayor Juliani, and I'll have to say this. 1003 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: I'll say this publicly. I think Mayor Bloomberg did define job. 1004 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of stuff I disagree 1005 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: with that the big Gulp confiscation thing was silly and stupid, 1006 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: the gun control stuff, but there was some common sense 1007 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: policies Mayor Bloomberg instituted. He's a businessman. He was a 1008 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: center right businessman, and he was center right on fiscal stuff, 1009 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: center left on social stuff, super successful business man. I 1010 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: think he's kind of become a little prickly in recent 1011 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: years against Trump. I think he's spending money to elect Democrats. 1012 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: Don't miss quote me media matters, because I know you're listening. 1013 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't love Mayor Bloomberg, but I think New York 1014 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: under Mayor Bloomberg, who was a reasonably well run city, 1015 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: New York has become a mess underd Blaggio. He cares 1016 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: more about appeasing leftist radicals that actually running the city properly. 1017 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: The amount of vagrancy, the amount of homelessness. You know, 1018 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: Mayor Giuliani instituted a no vagrancy, no homelessness policy because 1019 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, we have so many homeless 1020 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: shelters here. If you are going to what do they 1021 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: call it? I don't want to say a negative connotation 1022 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: about it, but solicit is that a proper word towards it? 1023 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: Or panhandle? Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know 1024 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: if that's a negative word or not, but I think 1025 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: it's just the word. It is right if you're going 1026 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: to be on the streets and ask for money or 1027 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: do you can't do that? You should go to home. 1028 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: There was one of the that was one of the 1029 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: ways Mayor Giuliani cleaned up the streets. Mayor Giuliani, can 1030 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: you imagine just I just want everyone understand this. Nineteen 1031 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: years ago a Republican won the mayor's race in New York. 1032 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: Can you just see how far this country has come 1033 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: that nineteen years ago there was a Republican mayor of 1034 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: the City of New York, Mayor Giuliani. It's incredible how 1035 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: far this country. There was a Republican mayor in Los 1036 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: Angeles too, from ninety three to two thousand and one. 1037 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, decent ended leaders used to exist. 1038 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: There's not been a Republican mayor of Chicago since nineteen 1039 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: thirty one. That's an interesting statistic anyway. So imagine being 1040 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: the worst at something. Imagine being awful, the worst hitter 1041 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: in the major leagues, and then complaining that you're not 1042 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: on the All star team. This is Mayor de Blagio. 1043 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: He is the worst mayor in America. The city is 1044 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: a mess of crime is rising, vagrancy is rampant, the 1045 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: taxes are out of control. I mean, look at how 1046 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: they screwed up this Amazon deal. This is a great 1047 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: example of the fecklessness of leadership of Mayor de Blagia. 1048 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: He allowed a constantly wrong but never in doubt socialist 1049 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: from New York's fourteenth Congressional District, Alexander Kaizer Cortez, to 1050 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: hijack the recruitment of jobs into New York City. Mayor 1051 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: de Blaig, you could have called up Alexander Kaiser Cortez said, listen, 1052 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm in charge of this negotiation. Allow the adults in 1053 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: the room to handle Amazon. Instead, he cowtowned to the 1054 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: leftist radical pressure of AOC and the city lost twenty 1055 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: thousand jobs because of it. He is the worst mayor 1056 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: in America, and now he is in the Democrat primary. 1057 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Who else do we have? But we have Bullock, right, 1058 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: we have Bullock from Montana, who one of my favorite 1059 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: kind of pieces in the last couple days of audio 1060 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: visual has been seeing him try to name one accomplishment 1061 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: as governor and he just kind of stumbles. I don't know, 1062 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and he's been a horrible governor Montana. Montana is probably 1063 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite states in the entire country. I 1064 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: love going to Montana. I've actually been to all fifty 1065 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: states so I can prepare them all. I think, rather reasonably, 1066 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: he's a horrific, horrific governor, and he thinks he can 1067 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: bring people together. Actually, the not so closed, not the 1068 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: not so secret narrative in Montana is that he's going 1069 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: to run for the presidency and then go back and 1070 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: run for the Senate against Steve Danes. He would give 1071 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Steve Danes a run for his money. In Montana. I 1072 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: think Steve would he could out, that'd be a really 1073 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: tough race. That'd be a fifty million dollar race right there, 1074 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: That'd be a fifty million dollar race. But then if 1075 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: you count Beto rebooting officially rebooting while he's getting a 1076 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: haircut with the heck is that all about it? And 1077 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: going on the view that no, my favorite is I 1078 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: don't know if it was your, somebody else who did 1079 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 1: a Beata impersonation? Was it you? It was the hands, 1080 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: it was now somebody else did like the voice. So 1081 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: I really think that I don't have privilege, but I 1082 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: do have privilege, and I think it reinforced the narrative. 1083 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: But what did Vanity Fair come out and say, Andrew, Well, today, 1084 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair the epitome of privilege. Well, you know about 1085 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: when he went on the View, he was asked by 1086 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Joy behar Uh if going on the cover Vanity Fair 1087 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: had been a mistake, to which he answered, yeah, I 1088 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: think it reinforces that perception of privilege, and so he's 1089 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: basically then goes on, no one is born to be 1090 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: president of the United States of America, least of all me, 1091 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: and his sense tried to walk back the fact that 1092 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 1: he didn't say he was born to run, to which 1093 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: the editor of I'm sorry, when is Bruce Springsteen gonna 1094 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,919 Speaker 1: sue him? I mean, when when is Bruce Springsteen gonna 1095 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: have a class actions? But this is what's great. It's 1096 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: it's great to watch watch all the behind the scenes. 1097 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: So the editor of Vanity Fair, Redhica Jones, isn't buying it. 1098 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: H And she's quoted as saying ended upcoming Christine Christiane 1099 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: amanpoor interview. I mean, he did say it, and I 1100 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: have felt actually it is clear what he meant. So 1101 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: but it has got some explaining to do, not least 1102 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: of which is why he's only pulling it. Two. I 1103 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: love when Trump says he sunk like a rock. What 1104 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: happened to him? Uh, he's really been. He's been probably 1105 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the greatest twenty twenty you know, flounder, and and it 1106 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: really kind of goes to show he really had very 1107 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: little merit. He had very little um following I shouldn't 1108 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: say following, let me kurt myself. He had very little depth, 1109 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. And yeah, he was very 1110 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: he was always very thin. He was always very heavy 1111 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: on the platitudes and the viral videos, but there's very 1112 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: little behind it. So he's rebooting his campaign again. We're 1113 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: in May and we're already in the reboots. I mean, 1114 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Um, he'll probably be on the debate stage, 1115 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: but there will be a moment and the way I 1116 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of see this all coming together, See, i'd become 1117 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: a master, an expert, a doctorate level proficients in the 1118 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: American Left. Would you say that's true, Andrew, you're good 1119 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: at predicting things. Well, I'm not the predicting, but the 1120 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: American left like understanding the left. Well, you're good at 1121 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: predicting because you understand what drives them from a motivational standpoint, 1122 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 1: from a founder right. And I'm not trying to overly 1123 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: describe my insight into the American Left, but I deal 1124 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: with them every day on college campuses, and the college 1125 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: campuses are the leading indicator of the spirit and the 1126 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: energy and the center of gravity of the left, the 1127 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: leftist movement. And so if you understand what drives a 1128 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: college leftist, do you understand what drives students on students 1129 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: on an issue, or student groups or true and activists, 1130 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: you can then reasonably predict what's going to happen and 1131 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 1: how it's going to happen. And so because of this, 1132 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 1: there's going to be a moment on the Democrat primary 1133 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: stage where Biden will be right there in the middle, 1134 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: kind of where Trump used to be. Remember Trump never 1135 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: left the middle. I love those debates. Those were some 1136 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: of the great things. And Biden will be there in 1137 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: the middle, and he will be flanked by Warren and 1138 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Harris and Jilla Brand and all of this. And somebody's 1139 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: going to say something like that, probably Jilla Brand, because 1140 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 1: she has nothing to lose, and her campaign has been 1141 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: so amazingly unimpressive. It's really been it's actually been impressive. 1142 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: How unimpressive her campaign is. She's gonna say, I think 1143 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 1: it's time for a woman to be in the White House. 1144 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: I think it's time for a woman to be present. 1145 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: Someone's going to say something intersectional or a person of color, 1146 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: I do have to say that their field is much 1147 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 1: whiter than people actually actually realize their field as much 1148 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: not as diverse as I think people thought it would 1149 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: be anyway, And then Biden will punch back, what do 1150 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 1: you mean that just because you look a certain way 1151 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: or a woman or a man doesn't mean that's not 1152 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: a qualification. And the war of identity politics will be 1153 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: launched within the Democrat primary. They will have a conflict 1154 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 1: around skin color, around gender identity that will be so 1155 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: her fic to watch, but also very insightful for those 1156 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 1: of us that actually enjoy political theater. And this this 1157 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: is already being signaled, This is already being talked about. 1158 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it was Simone Sanders that said 1159 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: that about Biden, that we can't have a white man. 1160 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I tweeted at one of them, and she responded and 1161 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: she said, well, I said that in a different context. Obviously, 1162 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: I believe Joe Biden can be president because his idea 1163 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: as a writer or something silly like that. But the 1164 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 1: horse race of the Democrat primary now is so interesting 1165 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: because in some ways they're trying to outradicalize themselves. It's 1166 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: the Trump hating Olympics, as I've always called it. But 1167 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: they have such little actual differences amongst their own opinions 1168 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: of how much they want to take, what direction they 1169 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: want to take the country. See in what made the 1170 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Republican primary in twenty sixteen so interesting is you had 1171 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot of dramatic differences Jeff Bush and Ted Cruz 1172 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: did not agree on immigration in the twenty sixteen prime. 1173 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: John Kay McDonald Trump did not agree on much in 1174 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen primary. What what actually substantially does Elizabeth 1175 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: Warren Corey Booker disagree on? What does Krick Kurston, Jilla 1176 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Brand and Elizabeth Warren actually disagree on? Very little? How 1177 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: much they hate Trump? I mean, what are they going 1178 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: to do in the primary on the debate? I hate Trump? 1179 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I hate him a lot more than I hate No, 1180 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: no way can you hate him more than I do? 1181 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: And they'll definitely throughout the word constitutional crisis. Oh no, 1182 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: By the way, we should have a drinking game for 1183 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the demo. I don't actually drink very much for all 1184 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the audience. I understand very rare occasions, but metaphorical one. Right, 1185 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You could have bingo? How 1186 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 1: about that? You could kind of you could drink water. Yeah, anyway, 1187 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: So we're so. This is Charlie Kirk filling in for 1188 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks second for Buck Sex on the Buck Sexton 1189 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Radio Show. You can follow us TPUSA dot com or 1190 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: go to Charlie Kirk Show on Apple podcast Press Subscribe. 1191 01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back, to the Buck Sexton 1192 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: radio show. This is Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point 1193 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: USA and host of The Charlie Kirk Show podcast, asked 1194 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you can go download that on Apple Podcasts. Press subscribe 1195 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: really helps us out. I'm reading here on Drudge something 1196 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: that reminded me of a column I wrote last week. 1197 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: I wrote a column for Breitbart dot Com that said 1198 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: trump greatest show of power is in his reluctance to 1199 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: use power, and I kind of detailed the president's courage 1200 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: in standing up to Iran, standing up to Venezuela, standing 1201 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: up to Russia, but also not going as far to 1202 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: engage US military might in endless wars and endless conflict. 1203 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: This is such a fine line, because yes, we should 1204 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: take a huge stance against the evil Iranian regime. We 1205 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: should take a strong stance against the number one world 1206 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: funder of terror. We should take a stance against Russia 1207 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin doing nefarious things all across the world. We 1208 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: should take a even stronger stance against China. And yes, 1209 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: we should take a strong stance against Nicholas Murdurou and 1210 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: his horrendous citizen exploitation in the country of Venezuela. But 1211 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: I also talk about in this column what he should 1212 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,919 Speaker 1: not do. So I used the first parameter of talking 1213 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 1: about Venezuela. I talked about Venezuela that right now, sure 1214 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: we could put America could about one hundred thousand troops 1215 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: in Venezuela. We can make Guido go into power. We'd 1216 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: we'd lose American citizens for that, we would lose civilians, 1217 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: no doubt. War is messy, War is horrible. War is 1218 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: one of the worst things that human beings can engage in. 1219 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: I think far too often, for whatever reason, war is romanticized. 1220 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: It's something that never should be a romanticized should be 1221 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the last possible option of manage imaginable. So let's say 1222 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: we get Guido and in power. Wouldn't take much military might. 1223 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 1: That happened almost immediately, all the Americans are coming. Well, 1224 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: then what then We'd have to rebuild the schools that 1225 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: we broke, We'd have to fund all the hospitals, and 1226 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we'd have another permanent military intervention 1227 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: in another part of the world. Meanwhile, we have a 1228 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty two trillion dollar day. The same could be said 1229 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 1: for Iran. And this is a very dangerous potential path 1230 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: that we're on right now. Iran is an evil, murderous 1231 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: terrorist funding regime. Iran should be sanctioned. Iran should not 1232 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 1: be sent palettes of cash like Barack Obama did. But 1233 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you can think a country should be put in check. 1234 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: You think a country should be shunned. You think you 1235 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: can think a country should have economic pressure put against it, 1236 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: without supporting a ground war, without doing another country's bidding, 1237 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and so. On the front page of Drudge, I read 1238 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 1: something that said that a Saudi Arabian newspaper urges United 1239 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,600 Speaker 1: States strikes on a run. This is really important for 1240 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: those of you that kind of follow my commentary. You know, 1241 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm no huge fan of Saudi Arabia. I think that 1242 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: they have been double faced and double minded in the 1243 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: eyes of the United States. Are far too long. I 1244 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: talk about their involvement in nine to eleven. I talk 1245 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: about their funding of madrasas across the world. I talk 1246 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: about their funding of al Qaeda, and also the most 1247 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: radical form of Islamism, which is Wahabism. But I'm equally 1248 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 1: as critical against Iran. For whatever reason, seems as if 1249 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 1: there has to be this binary choice that you can't 1250 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 1: be critical of Saudi Arabia while also being critical of Iran. 1251 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: I'm very critical of both. But this paper said that 1252 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian paper urges the United States to do 1253 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 1: surgical strikes against Iran, which would be an act of war, 1254 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: which would put us in another endless conflict, potentially in 1255 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the Middle East. This would be a horrendous mistake. If 1256 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: we are doing the bidding of another country's foreign policy, 1257 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: that is a mistake. Saudi Arabia and Iran have a 1258 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Shia Sunni conflict that goes back hundreds and thousands of years, 1259 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 1: a thousands, a thousand years. Probably. This would be an 1260 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: unbelievable mistake for our country to attack war against a 1261 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: sovereign country. The last time we did that was when 1262 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 1: we evaded Iraq. Iraq. The Iraq War was one of 1263 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,600 Speaker 1: the worst mistakes foreign policy mistakes in American history. In 1264 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: American history, spent trillions of dollars in a region, had 1265 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: nothing to show for a thousands of Americans lives lost, 1266 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of vets have PTSD, and we attacked 1267 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 1: a sovereign nation with an inappropriate response to nine to eleven. 1268 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: So I guess my word to the wise, my word, 1269 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: my word of caution here we should have an America 1270 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: first foreign policy. Yes, it is America first to put 1271 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: sanctions on Iran because Iran is funding terror directly against 1272 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 1: America against our interests. They could shut the straighter harmus, 1273 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: they could shut down the flow of energy. But no, 1274 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: it is not in our interests to get in a 1275 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 1: ground war with one hundred and twenty thousand, four hundred thousand, 1276 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 1: whatever many troops it would be against Iran. And then what, 1277 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 1: let's say we overthrow the Ayatola Kameni. Let's say we 1278 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 1: overthrow Akademajad. We've done that before. We did that in 1279 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three, and then of course that got displaced, 1280 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,600 Speaker 1: which led us to the Iranian Revolution, which we had 1281 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the radicalism which we have today. The Shaw was far 1282 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: less radical than we have today. But the seeds of 1283 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 1: resentment that we sewed in displacing the leader back in 1284 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty three is one of the reasons we're there today. 1285 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Why would we continue to make the same mistakes that 1286 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: we made there. You can have pressure against Iran, you 1287 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,600 Speaker 1: can believe that they're evil and murderous about having to 1288 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: do the bidding of another country in the Middle East, 1289 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 1: like Saudi Arabia that wants us to do surgical strikes 1290 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: against the sovereign country. This is Charlie Kirk filling in 1291 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 1: for Buck Sext on the Buck Sexton Radio Show. We'll 1292 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 1: be right back. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the Buck 1293 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Radio Show. This is Charlie Kirk filling in form 1294 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: my friend, the great Buck Sexton. It is an honor 1295 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: to be hosting with you today. I am the founder 1296 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: and executive director of Turning Point USA, the nation's largest 1297 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: student movement dedicated to educating the next generation around the 1298 01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: values of free markets, limited government in the Constitution. I 1299 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: am also the host of The Charlie Kirk Show on 1300 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. Go to Apple podcast, type in the Charlie 1301 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: Kirk Show, Press subscribe, Maybe give us a five star rating. 1302 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: That really helps us out. We give you the news 1303 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: of the week and a unique take on everything that 1304 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 1: is going on today. President Trump talked and unveiled his 1305 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: immigration proposal. President Trump has really changed the conversation when 1306 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: it comes to immigration in this country. Both parties have 1307 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: ignored this issue for so long, and they both have 1308 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: different reasons for why they want open borders. Traditionally, Republicans 1309 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: want open borders for cheap labor, for the ability for 1310 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,839 Speaker 1: these big corporations to be able to have workers illegal 1311 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: workers be able to undercut wages. And Democrats want illegals 1312 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 1: for votes. They want them for potential political control, and 1313 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 1: they want to be able to use use certain portions 1314 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 1: of the American population for their own political purposes. So 1315 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: this is what the left is very very good at. 1316 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:15,719 Speaker 1: The Left has become experts at pitting different American groups 1317 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: against each other. So when you look at illegals, the 1318 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: left wants to be able to use them as political 1319 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: political voting base, but also as a way to use 1320 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 1: their suffering towards their own political power. And President Trump, 1321 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: to his credit, started his original campaign launched back in 1322 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 1: June of twenty fifteen, on the issue of immigration. See 1323 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,600 Speaker 1: both parties had refused to fix this issue. George W. 1324 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: Bush did not build the wall. Bill Clinton did not 1325 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 1: build the wall. George HW. Bush didn't build the wall. 1326 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: Obama certainly didn't build the wall. Ronald Reagan didn't build 1327 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: the wall. In fact, Ronald Reagan offered amnesty to millions 1328 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,839 Speaker 1: of illegals in California and other parts of the country 1329 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: is in what he later called one of his biggest mistakes. 1330 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: We now have well over fifteen to twenty million illegals 1331 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: in this country. It's probably even more than that. And 1332 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: the issue is not just what do you do with 1333 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the people that are already here? What are we doing 1334 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: to stop the next one million illegals from entering our country. 1335 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,520 Speaker 1: We are expected to have one million border crossings into 1336 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 1: our country alone this year, one million border crossings. One 1337 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 1: percent of the entire population of Guatemala is anticipated to 1338 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: immigrate or to border jump to this country. And now 1339 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you I get quite bothered by the 1340 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: terminology immigration, because immigration means you obey the law, you 1341 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: wait in line, you don't commit crimes in your home country, 1342 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: You visit the United States embassy, you apply, you wait 1343 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: your turn, You enter the country, you find a job, 1344 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: you pay taxes, You have kids, and your kids can 1345 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: then have a better life than you. That is immigration. 1346 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: It is not fair that someone from Guatemala can cut 1347 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 1: in line, someone from Belarus or someone from Vietnam that 1348 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 1: has to wait in line and does not have the 1349 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 1: geographic proximity to border jump into our country. So I'm 1350 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: very hesitant to even call that immigration. It is line 1351 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: cutting and border jumping. We never have as a country 1352 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 1: ever talked positively about cutting in line. We've never said, oh, yeah, 1353 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: it's a good thing that people are cutting in line. 1354 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 1: No matter what it is, whether it be as something 1355 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 1: as simple as a restaurant or boarding a plane, there 1356 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 1: is a cultural process that is within our country that 1357 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: we respect people that are patient and obey the rule 1358 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 1: of law and the structure of systems. However, when it 1359 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 1: comes to the issue of immigration, I do not equate 1360 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 1: people that cut in line and jump the border as 1361 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: the same people that wait patiently to get their turn. 1362 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 1: And so President Trump has changed the dynamic when it 1363 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 1: comes to immigration in this country. For far too long, 1364 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 1: we have agreed as conservatives to have open borders to 1365 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 1: appease the left for our own purposes, and now it 1366 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 1: is having significant cultural, financial, and national security implications in 1367 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 1: our country. Illegals cost well over one hundred billion dollars 1368 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,840 Speaker 1: a year in state, local and federal tax burden. Illegals 1369 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: in the state of Arizona are twice as likely to 1370 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: commit a crime versus a natural born citizen. You look 1371 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 1: at the amount of guns being smuggled across our southern border, 1372 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of guns every single month, hundreds of 1373 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 1: pounds of drugs are smuggled every single day across the 1374 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 1: southern border. Children are being sex trafficked. Over ten thousand 1375 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 1: children are sex trafficked across the southern border every single month. 1376 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 1: And the President has changed this dynamic, and he has 1377 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: even been more generous than some people in the conservative 1378 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: base would have been comfortable with him to be to 1379 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: offer a DOCA deal and to even go as far 1380 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: to say that there should be a way that illegals 1381 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: can stay in our country if they obey the law, 1382 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: if in return you have border security. See if the 1383 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 1: Democrats actually cared about protecting the people that were in 1384 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,679 Speaker 1: this country illegally and we're worried about them, then they 1385 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 1: would have struck the president to be able to build 1386 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 1: the wall to prevent more illegals coming into this country, 1387 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,959 Speaker 1: to prevent more people that are in a position of suffering, 1388 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: while in exchange fixing the problem once and for all. 1389 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: The President had some comments on this, let's go to 1390 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: cut one. Currently, sixty six percent of legal immigrants come 1391 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:02,959 Speaker 1: here on the basis of random chance. They're admitted solely 1392 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 1: because they have a relative in the United States, and 1393 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter who that relative is. Another twenty 1394 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: one percent of immigrants are issued either by random lottery 1395 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 1: or because they're fortunate enough to be selected for humanitarian relief. 1396 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 1: The President is critiquing the fact that our immigration system, 1397 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 1: our legal immigration system right now, is so screwed up 1398 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,879 Speaker 1: in the sense that if you know someone in this country, 1399 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to come here. This is called 1400 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: family chain migration, when in reality we should have the smartest, 1401 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: most qualified, most ambitious, entrepreneurial people in the world come 1402 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: to this country. See. I have this debate amongst some 1403 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 1: people in conservative circles. They say, oh, no, no, no, 1404 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: we don't need more immigrants altogether. I totally disagree. I 1405 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 1: think we need millions and millions of more qualified, ambitious people. 1406 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 1: We do not have a land problem in this country. 1407 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 1: You go to Nebraska, the Dakota is Iowa, Illinois where 1408 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,719 Speaker 1: I'm from, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio. We have unbelievable natural resources, 1409 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: abundant amount of land. We could build forever. We could 1410 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 1: fit the entire world's population in Texas, by the way, 1411 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,839 Speaker 1: and still have land leftover, Still have tracts of land leftover. 1412 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,839 Speaker 1: If you believe in market principles, you first and foremost 1413 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 1: believe in the rule of law. So I'm not an 1414 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,440 Speaker 1: open borders person like some people on the extreme libertarian 1415 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: side are. Or they say we have to open up 1416 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the borders an unrestricted amount of legal immigration, of immigration 1417 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 1: illegal or legal, there's no such thing. I don't agree 1418 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: with that. But if you have qualified people entering your 1419 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: workforce and they're going to start businesses and they're going 1420 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: to compete and create wealth, of course we want those 1421 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 1: people in our country. And since we have such a 1422 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 1: booming economy, we have job openings of qualified people that 1423 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: want to come to this country. I find inspiration from 1424 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: someone that has grown up in less than desirable circumstances, 1425 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 1: from Vietnam, from Laos, Cambodia, Guatemala, Somalia, anywhere in the 1426 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 1: country and anywhere the world, I should say, and they 1427 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: want to come here and make something of themselves. See, 1428 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: a country should always want ambitious people, a country should 1429 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: always want law abiding people, and a country should always 1430 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 1: want ethical people. If those three things are how we 1431 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: design an immigration system, we'd have a much more prosperous 1432 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 1: country today. Because if you have someone that comes in 1433 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 1: the country and they're going to go to school, they're 1434 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: gonna obey the law, they're going to act ethically. There's 1435 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: nothing negative that could come out of that. Well, I 1436 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't say there's nothing negative. There's very little old chance 1437 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,719 Speaker 1: that something negative would come out of that, very low chance. Instead, 1438 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: they will start businesses and they'll reinvest in our country, 1439 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 1: almost assuredly, or they'll get high paying job, they'll purchase houses, 1440 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: and they'll participate in the market economy. Now, the problem is, 1441 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 1: as the President pointed out, when you have people that 1442 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,879 Speaker 1: are just related to other people and you're not actually 1443 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:19,160 Speaker 1: screening for ambition, likelihood to participate an entrepreneurial activity, or 1444 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 1: their wealth coming into the country, anything that you're able 1445 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,000 Speaker 1: to screen for that has some leading indicator that they 1446 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 1: will be able to produce for themselves in their family 1447 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 1: and maybe provide jobs in the future. All of a sudden, 1448 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: you have a higher likelihood that those immigrants will then 1449 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: take welfare and they will live on the government dole. 1450 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: And that's not helpful for anybody. So let's go to 1451 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: cut two. As the President continues to comment on the 1452 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: immigration debate, under the senseless rules of the current system. 1453 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,600 Speaker 1: We're not able to give preference to a doctor, a researcher, 1454 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 1: a student who graduated number one in his class from 1455 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 1: the finest colleges in the world, anybody. We're not able 1456 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 1: to take care of it. We're not able to make 1457 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 1: those incredible breakthroughs. If somebody graduates top of their class 1458 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,559 Speaker 1: from the Vest College, sorry, go back to your country. 1459 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 1: We want to keep them here. And it's the president. 1460 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,719 Speaker 1: Just to kind of add clarity what he was saying, 1461 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: he was almost in my observation of what he said, 1462 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I think critiquing how silly it is if someone someone 1463 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 1: graduates first in their class. Of course we want them 1464 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 1: here in America. So to kind of I'm going to 1465 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,360 Speaker 1: detail his America First immigration plan in just a second. 1466 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to walk through exactly what the actual policies 1467 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: been in Before I get to that, I want to 1468 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 1: just reinforce the fact we're even having an immigration debate 1469 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: altogether is extraordinary. The fact that we're even discussing the 1470 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:05,599 Speaker 1: issue of immigration is a testament to the President's courage 1471 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,879 Speaker 1: and conviction and clarity when it comes to public policy. 1472 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 1: This is Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA, host 1473 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 1: of the Charlie Kirk Show podcast. You're going to Apple 1474 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Podcast Press subscribe. It'll help us out. In just a minute, 1475 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,840 Speaker 1: we'll be right back talking about Donald Trump's America First 1476 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,680 Speaker 1: immigration plan. We'll be right back. Welcome back. This is 1477 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,439 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk filling in for the great Buck Sexton. Today. 1478 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 1: President Trump. He detailed his America First immigration plan. So 1479 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to go for this point by point, very meticulously. 1480 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: First and foremost, big cuts in chain migration. This is 1481 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,160 Speaker 1: so important. You should not be able to come to 1482 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: our country just because you know somebody in this country. 1483 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: You should have to have qualifications. You should have to 1484 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 1: have maybe some form of wealth, ambition, maybe high test scores, 1485 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 1: you name it. There is very little argument to be said, Oh, 1486 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 1: we should just let people in because they have an 1487 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 1: ant or an uncle or a niece or a nephew 1488 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: or a cousin. No, we want people that are proven 1489 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:19,120 Speaker 1: or have leading indicators to produce in our country. Big 1490 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 1: cuts and chain migration, huge win for the America First agenda, 1491 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: big time. Second, drastic increase in skilled labor. Wow, what 1492 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 1: a want to know? What a novel concept to be 1493 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 1: able to say that we want more people that have skills. 1494 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: Can you code? Can you speak multiple languages? Did you 1495 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 1: get high test scores? We want more people that have 1496 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 1: skills because when you have those types of skills, you're 1497 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,960 Speaker 1: much less likely to go on government benefits, You're much 1498 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,400 Speaker 1: less likely to commit crime, you're much less likely to 1499 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: drop off and participate in anything in society that is 1500 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,479 Speaker 1: less than desirable, and you're much more likely to get 1501 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: a high paying job. You're much more likely to start 1502 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: a business. So this plan increase includes a dramatic and 1503 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 1: drastic increase in skilled labor. And so what kind of 1504 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 1: the skills are these? And engineering, nursing, being a doctor, 1505 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 1: things that we need in our country. We need more 1506 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 1: of that. We can't find enough of that work. There 1507 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 1: are companies that are saying we can't find enough work. Now, 1508 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,960 Speaker 1: some people on the very very far conservative side of things, 1509 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,680 Speaker 1: and I'm friends with a lot of these people. Admittedly 1510 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 1: they say, oh, Charlie, what are you talking about. We 1511 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,679 Speaker 1: need Americans to fill those jobs. Well, look, first of all, 1512 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:39,639 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that have been left 1513 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,559 Speaker 1: behind in the American economy that don't have these skills, 1514 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 1: and we should do more for job training. We should 1515 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 1: do more to actually teach these skills. But that's not 1516 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 1: an excuse not to expand the immigration quotas for people 1517 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 1: that actually have the capacity to fill these jobs. Now, 1518 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 1: we as a country, if you believe in market based forces, 1519 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 1: you believe when someone comes with ambition and ethics and skill, 1520 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 1: ambition and ethics and skill, they're going to participate in 1521 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 1: that economy generally in a positive sense. I want more 1522 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,759 Speaker 1: people like Elon Musk. Elon Musk was a legal immigrant 1523 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 1: to this country from South Africa, and he has made 1524 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,960 Speaker 1: America a better place. He employs tens of thousands of people, 1525 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,759 Speaker 1: He's made billions of dollars. He's ambitious, he has vision, 1526 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: and he has ethics. The third part of this America 1527 01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 1: First Plan was a self sustained Border Security Trust Fund. 1528 01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: From my understanding of this, this is the ability to 1529 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,920 Speaker 1: have some funding mechanism to make sure that the border 1530 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: is always properly funded, that we have a secure border, 1531 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: that we have a wall, and we have some form 1532 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: of a capacity to make sure that the border is 1533 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:53,040 Speaker 1: not subject to these partisan silly funding fights. This is 1534 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,599 Speaker 1: long overdue. The border has become such a political issue. 1535 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 1: The border has become such a contentious partnersan issue. The 1536 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: President is looking five, ten, fifteen, twenty years ahead, saying, 1537 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: how can I fund the border in a way to 1538 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:15,320 Speaker 1: make sure that the ice border patrol agents and the 1539 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: construction of the wall, what is needed in the future, 1540 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,719 Speaker 1: can be self sustainable. He also said there's a build 1541 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 1: America visa. Now, what this is is if you're coming 1542 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 1: into our country, we will give you a visa if 1543 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 1: you actually want to build infrastructure and build buildings in 1544 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 1: our country. It is an America First immigration plan. Then 1545 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 1: finally civics exams. This is so important. The President talked 1546 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: about having a civic exam. Do you know our basic 1547 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 1: founding documents? Don't know our basic ideas? Can you speak English? 1548 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Having the ability to have a civic exam has been 1549 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 1: missing in our immigration debate for so long. Let's go 1550 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,719 Speaker 1: to cut three, the President on immigration. Companies are moving 1551 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 1: off officers to other countries because our immigration rules prevent 1552 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 1: them from retaining highly skilled And even if I might 1553 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:18,480 Speaker 1: totally brilliant people, we discriminate against genius. We discriminate against brilliance. 1554 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,280 Speaker 1: We won't anymore once we get this past, and we 1555 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,800 Speaker 1: hope to get it past as soon as possible. Discriminate 1556 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:31,799 Speaker 1: against genius. That is exactly right. Our current immigration system 1557 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 1: discriminates against high qualified people. I have always said I 1558 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 1: want the Kentucky Basketball of immigration policy. What do I 1559 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 1: mean by that? I want the most qualified, the most ambitious, 1560 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 1: the most intelligent, the most entrepreneurial people to come to 1561 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 1: this country. There should not be an inherent discrimination against 1562 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 1: qualifications when applying to come into America. In just a minute, 1563 01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back. I'm going to detail this even more 1564 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: or we're going to talk about some of the reaction 1565 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: from the left on this immigration issue. They're finding a 1566 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 1: reason to oppose it. This is Charlie Kirk, host of 1567 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,640 Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show. You can subscribe by going to 1568 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,720 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast typing in the Charlie Kirk Show Press subscribe. 1569 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Founder of Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com. We'll be 1570 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back. This is Charlie Kirk filling in 1571 01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 1: for the Great Buck Sexton on the Buck Sexton Radio Show. 1572 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: I am the founder of Turning Point USA TPUSA dot com, 1573 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 1: the nation's largest student movement dedicated to the education of 1574 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:42,639 Speaker 1: the next generation. Behind the ideas of free markets, limited government, 1575 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:47,240 Speaker 1: American exceptionalism, and the Constitution. We've been talking about immigration 1576 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 1: this hour. This is an issue that I think is 1577 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 1: the number one issue heading into the twenty twenty election. 1578 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,719 Speaker 1: The Democrats have no position on immigration. In fact, Robert 1579 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 1: f answers o rourke. He calls himself Beta, Beto O'Rourke, 1580 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 1: calls himself Beto O'Rourke. Right, mister producer, that's right, that's 1581 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 1: mister producer there. And he has a position where he 1582 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: was standing overlooking the fence that actually works in El Paso, Texas, 1583 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: that actually works, and Chris Hayes from MSNBC asks him, 1584 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 1: if you could, would you tear down these walls right now? 1585 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,720 Speaker 1: Actually might be the toughest question that a Democrat has 1586 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,040 Speaker 1: gotten so far in the twenty twenty election, and he says, 1587 01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 1: of course, yes, absolutely, I would. He would tear down 1588 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the wall with El Paso. The Democrats are put on 1589 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: defense from this issue. And I have to give the 1590 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,559 Speaker 1: president credit by framing the immigration debate. Here's what he's 1591 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 1: really doing. He's going to work with Mitch McConnell to 1592 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 1: get this bill into the United States Senate and he 1593 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,719 Speaker 1: will put every Democrat running for president, which is about 1594 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: half the United States Senate of the Democrat Caucus. It 1595 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 1: seems on the record against these very reasonable immigration proposals, 1596 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 1: cutting chain migration, increasing skilled labor, having a self sustained 1597 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:09,000 Speaker 1: border security trust fund, more build America Visa's civics exams. 1598 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Do you believe in that, Senator Jillibrand, do you believe 1599 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,840 Speaker 1: in that? Senator Booker? Do you believe in that? Senator Colbatar, Colobatar? 1600 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,640 Speaker 1: Do you believe in that? Senator Warren? I mean what 1601 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,439 Speaker 1: senator is not running for president. By the way, we 1602 01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,519 Speaker 1: should have a list of every Democrat not running for president. 1603 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 1: I think it might be Senator Tim Kane. I think 1604 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,640 Speaker 1: he's not running for president now. Senator Tim Kane is 1605 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,200 Speaker 1: definitely not running for president. But you go through this list, 1606 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:34,599 Speaker 1: it is such reasonable immigration policy. And what it really 1607 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: does is it's now going to put Vice President Joe 1608 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Biden the air apparent front runner of the Democrat primary, 1609 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,960 Speaker 1: which I've made this prediction. I believe he will not 1610 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 1: be the Democrat nominee. I believe Joe Biden will not 1611 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,640 Speaker 1: be the Democrat nominee. It now puts him in a 1612 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,840 Speaker 1: very difficult situation. It now puts him in a very 1613 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 1: tough position because now Vice President Joe Biden is now 1614 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: going to have to be against stuff he used to 1615 01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,720 Speaker 1: be for, which is actually seemed to be kind of 1616 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's twenty slogan, Joe Biden, if I don't support 1617 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 1: it now, I probably did then vote for me. I've 1618 01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,759 Speaker 1: been on every side of the issue, or Joe Biden's 1619 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 1: new slogan, which is, if I set it back then, 1620 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: I might not say it today. What do you think 1621 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 1: that's that's good? I think that's this new slogan. If 1622 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm not for it I was before, or something like that. 1623 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: The guy has been on every single issue of every 1624 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: political topic in the American political conversation. He in two 1625 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 1: thousand and six said we waited to build a wall, 1626 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,599 Speaker 1: we need to kick out all the illegals, and now 1627 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 1: he says we need to give health care for everybody it. 1628 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 1: The genius of Trump's immigration plan is to compare it 1629 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,559 Speaker 1: against what I would say, more leftist notions, the same 1630 01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 1: notions that the modern progressive left adores, and so he's 1631 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,160 Speaker 1: he's creating contrast through good policy. So not is this 1632 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,479 Speaker 1: not only is this something that should, hopefully God willing 1633 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,400 Speaker 1: get past. Nancy Pelosi will not allow this to come 1634 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: in its true form. But this will also this is 1635 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,599 Speaker 1: the genius of Trump's plan. This will put blue dog 1636 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,960 Speaker 1: alleged blue dog Democrats like Connor Lamb and these guys 1637 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,759 Speaker 1: that have just taken the House back with Nancy Pelosi 1638 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 1: in a very tough position because they're gonna have to 1639 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: vote against leadership. They're gonna have to vote against the 1640 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 1: wishes of the of the Nancy Pelosi. This is a 1641 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 1: moderate immigration plan. This is now. Yes, it has a 1642 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: lot of border security. But you might see some of 1643 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: these ads on Fox News being run by Numbers USA. 1644 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,000 Speaker 1: Numbers USA does not believe in this immigration plan. I 1645 01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,800 Speaker 1: disagree with Numbers USA, and I like a lot of 1646 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 1: what they do. I agree with them on the illegal immigration. 1647 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: But this is a conversation that I've had with some 1648 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,240 Speaker 1: of our own team, you know, at the Charlie Kirk Show, 1649 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show podcast that you can download on an 1650 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,639 Speaker 1: Apple podcast. There's a conversation and debate that we have 1651 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,519 Speaker 1: should we have more immigration? My stance is absolutely, I 1652 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: want millions and millions of more smart, ambitious, ethical people. 1653 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Smart ambitious, ethical people that's hard to find. Though, it's 1654 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 1: hard to qualify, isn't it Because as soon as you 1655 01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: say that you have to curtail chain migration, you have 1656 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 1: to curtail people that my I just know somebody or 1657 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,519 Speaker 1: have some sort of diversity, the slattery, and so the 1658 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 1: conversation immigration should be always this And this is what 1659 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,559 Speaker 1: I love about this president's plan right now? Is it 1660 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 1: going to help America? Not? Does it make you feel good? Not? 1661 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 1: Is it going to put more people there disaffected in 1662 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: your country? Is? Will this policy actually help America? Will 1663 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,880 Speaker 1: this policy benefit the nation state that you're elected to serve? 1664 01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,639 Speaker 1: Isn't that a novel concept? Actually ask yourself will your 1665 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 1: public policy you're pushing for benefit your constituents. It seems 1666 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,799 Speaker 1: as if the Democrats are will it get me elected? 1667 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 1: Or will it put me in power? Or will it 1668 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 1: make me feel good? Or will it get applause some 1669 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: sort of leftist gathering of ACLU human rights campaign. It'll 1670 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,479 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see which Democrat actually has something 1671 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,960 Speaker 1: nice to say about this, which will probably none of them, 1672 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,880 Speaker 1: and they'll all vote. My guess is war into Clobuchart. 1673 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,120 Speaker 1: All of them will one by one by one vote 1674 01:35:54,160 --> 01:36:00,360 Speaker 1: against this very reasonable immigration proposal and plan. And I 1675 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,519 Speaker 1: do want to reinforce a point I made earlier, which 1676 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,519 Speaker 1: is we are only talking about immigration because of President Trump. 1677 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 1: Let's play a hypothetical out. Let's say it was President 1678 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 1: Jeb Bush or President Marco Rubio. Do you think we'd 1679 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,080 Speaker 1: be having this conversation around the illegal immigration in this country? 1680 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 1: Do you think we'd actually be having the conversation around 1681 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 1: declaring the southern border as a national emergency. I think 1682 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 1: there's a zero percent chance that the traditional Republican Party 1683 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,639 Speaker 1: would actually be addressing illegal immigration. They'd be talking about 1684 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,560 Speaker 1: it from a corporatist lens. What do you think, No, 1685 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,800 Speaker 1: we'd be doing exactly the point you've made time and 1686 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 1: time again, that we'd be talking about how much we 1687 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,519 Speaker 1: can concede to the Democrats so that we can stay 1688 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: at the cocktail parties as opposed to getting actual immigration. 1689 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,200 Speaker 1: It seems like that that's a trend, isn't it. It 1690 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:49,320 Speaker 1: seems as if that's exactly right. It's the traditional Republican 1691 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Party is this traditionally, and that Trump has blown this up, 1692 01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: blown this up, and most Republicans, like Lindsay Graham, are 1693 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,840 Speaker 1: no longer like this. I want to qualify this. Most 1694 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,360 Speaker 1: Republicans are no longer like this. The traditional Republican Party, 1695 01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:07,080 Speaker 1: especially in the early two thousands, is two things. How 1696 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 1: can I get the Democrats and media to not say 1697 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 1: bad things about me? And how do I serve corporate interests? 1698 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: How do I not get the Democrats and media not 1699 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: to say bad things about me? And how do I 1700 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,920 Speaker 1: serve corporate interests? How do I stay on CNN? Yeah, exactly? 1701 01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 1: How do I say on certain cable networks? How do 1702 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,439 Speaker 1: I stay on certain cable networks while also still getting 1703 01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,680 Speaker 1: invited to the cocktail parties? How do I blend those 1704 01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 1: two things together? Donald Trump doesn't care about the cocktail parties. 1705 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,599 Speaker 1: The ultimate cocktail party where you go to get loved 1706 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,879 Speaker 1: is the White House correspondence dinner. When you're a president, 1707 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,600 Speaker 1: that is that is the oscars of being president. Of 1708 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 1: course you get made fun of a little bit, but 1709 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 1: you get that is your show. And President Trump has 1710 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,639 Speaker 1: shown he doesn't care about that. He goes and actually 1711 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: rallies with real Americans. Here's a kind of a fun 1712 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:51,040 Speaker 1: stat that my executive producer, who you're hearing some nice 1713 01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 1: chime in, Andrew told me. Currently only about twelve percent 1714 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,000 Speaker 1: of immigrants are admitted based unemployment and skills, while sixty 1715 01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,679 Speaker 1: six are Oh my goodness, this is unbelievable, while sixty 1716 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,920 Speaker 1: six are admitted based on family connections. Inside the United 1717 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,240 Speaker 1: States administration, are you kidding me? This means that sixty 1718 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,720 Speaker 1: six percent two thirds. I want you to imagine a 1719 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 1: pie right now, Okay, a physical pie, and two thirds 1720 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,559 Speaker 1: of that pie, sixty six percent of immigrants, legal immigrants 1721 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,680 Speaker 1: into our country right now are admitted just based on 1722 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 1: family ties. That's no way are we getting the best 1723 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,160 Speaker 1: people in the world because of that. Do you know 1724 01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 1: what that also means? That means that we are disenfranchising 1725 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,880 Speaker 1: qualified people from other parts of the world, because that 1726 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 1: means qualified people are being puts the back of the 1727 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,920 Speaker 1: line because someone else is here. That means somebody else. 1728 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,240 Speaker 1: So you know what else that means. That means it 1729 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,840 Speaker 1: gives you preference to people that know illegal immigrants. Do 1730 01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 1: you know any illegal and that illegal has a child, 1731 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 1: that child that becomes fifteen or sixteen, you can then 1732 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,960 Speaker 1: use that fifteen or sixteen year old daughter of an 1733 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,160 Speaker 1: illegal immigrant to come to this country legally. That's silly. 1734 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,920 Speaker 1: We should be to have an immigration policy that is 1735 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 1: crafted based on merit, based on ambition and based on ethics. 1736 01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,000 Speaker 1: A country should be built on what is best for 1737 01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,960 Speaker 1: the nation state, not what makes you feel good. This 1738 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: is Charlie Kirk filling for Buck Sex Then on the 1739 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,720 Speaker 1: Buck Sex Then Radio Show. We'll be right back, Welcome back. 1740 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,880 Speaker 1: This is Charlie Kirk filling in for the great Buck 1741 01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 1: Sex Then on the Buck Sex Then Radio Show. I 1742 01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: am the founder of Turning Point USA. Turning Point USA 1743 01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:18,000 Speaker 1: is the nation's largest student movement dedicated to educating, empowering, 1744 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 1: and organizing the next generation around the values of free markets, 1745 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,680 Speaker 1: limited government, and the constitution. We'd like to learn more, 1746 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 1: you can visit our website at tpusa dot com. That 1747 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:36,559 Speaker 1: is tp usa dot com. So Andrew Andrew's here, executive 1748 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,280 Speaker 1: producer of The Charlie Kirk Show. You can go to 1749 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,320 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts and subscribe to The Charlie Kirk Show. We 1750 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:45,000 Speaker 1: were just talking about immigration, and it seems far too 1751 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 1: often that the immigration debate in our country gets immediately demagogued. 1752 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 1: It seems as if the left wants to use it 1753 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,720 Speaker 1: as a way to perpetually have future voters. If the 1754 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,840 Speaker 1: Left was serious but actually solving this problem, they would 1755 01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,559 Speaker 1: build a wall. As I co and le say if 1756 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:07,320 Speaker 1: illegals entering America and their children were likely to vote Republican, 1757 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 1: but while would already be built, and anyone that would 1758 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 1: oppose the wall would be a racist. If people coming 1759 01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,720 Speaker 1: across the southern border would actually tend to be more conservative, 1760 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,760 Speaker 1: then the left would say, oh, we gotta build the wall, 1761 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,559 Speaker 1: we gotta restrict because you know how we know this 1762 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 1: to be true. The left does not want actual legal 1763 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 1: immigration from countries that are far more likely to have 1764 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: Republicans or people of the vote Republicans. I'll give you 1765 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:33,040 Speaker 1: a great example when time and time again we try 1766 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,960 Speaker 1: to accept the victims of communism from countries like Venezuela, 1767 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,639 Speaker 1: or from Cuba, or from Eastern Europe, the Democrats want 1768 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 1: to put restrictions on that. Democrats, time and time again 1769 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:47,439 Speaker 1: would rather have people that are in caravans coming from 1770 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 1: Guatemala that are living in less than desirable circumstances. Living 1771 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 1: in less than desirable circumstances are not a reason to 1772 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 1: be able to come to America. Living in less than 1773 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 1: desirable circumstances. I have empathy for those people. I have 1774 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,080 Speaker 1: compassion for those people. Actually believe the best way to 1775 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,880 Speaker 1: help those people is to empower their own nation state, 1776 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,120 Speaker 1: to have a free market economy, to have the rule 1777 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 1: of law, and to have a constitutional republic free expression. 1778 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 1: That's the best way to help people in less than 1779 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,920 Speaker 1: desirable circumstances, not to just say, oh, leave Guatemala. I 1780 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 1: have twenty five percent of Guatemala comes to America. What 1781 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 1: does that mean. It means the twenty five percent they're 1782 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,840 Speaker 1: actually young enough. Their young workforce leaves their country and 1783 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,960 Speaker 1: they have less people, less quality, they have less people 1784 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,680 Speaker 1: at all, and their country is less off today than 1785 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,719 Speaker 1: it was beforehand. And so Donald Trump, to his credit, 1786 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 1: has kept the national conversation around immigration going for some 1787 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 1: time now. It is an issue. And this is what 1788 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: I love about President Trump. He doesn't care if it's 1789 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 1: a divisive issue. He doesn't care if it's a difficult issue. 1790 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,320 Speaker 1: He cares if it's an issue that needs to be 1791 01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 1: addressed by the country and for the country. And so 1792 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,240 Speaker 1: the President takes on these difficult issues. The President takes 1793 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:01,000 Speaker 1: on these issues that he knows are going to spur 1794 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,960 Speaker 1: conversation because he knows it's good for America long term 1795 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,400 Speaker 1: to actually solve our immigration crisis. We are on pace 1796 01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 1: to have one million people cross the southern border this year. 1797 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 1: One million people. Think about that, you know, you know, 1798 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,840 Speaker 1: you know what? You know, how many one million people is? 1799 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:22,080 Speaker 1: That's the entire population of Montana. The state of Montana 1800 01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,559 Speaker 1: is illegally crossing into our country every single year. One 1801 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,400 Speaker 1: million people a year, every single year. This is not sustainable. 1802 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,280 Speaker 1: These are people that are not on our books. These 1803 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,800 Speaker 1: are people that are going to be draining the public resources. 1804 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,160 Speaker 1: These are people that are going to be flooding our schools. 1805 01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,240 Speaker 1: It's different if you come from a country and you 1806 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,080 Speaker 1: come legally. What what's the actual distinction of the difference here? 1807 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 1: When you come legally, you get placed usually in a 1808 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 1: region or a country or a city that can sustain 1809 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,600 Speaker 1: that kind of immigration or that is in need of 1810 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,439 Speaker 1: that kind of immigration. There is a beautiful documentary done 1811 01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 1: on Frontline, which I know is a PBS thing, but Frontline, 1812 01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 1: actually I think does they do a pretty fair job. 1813 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,680 Speaker 1: I love the music to I love Frontline, I always have. 1814 01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,120 Speaker 1: I think I think Frontline is one of the great 1815 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 1: true I think they're one of the great documentary kind 1816 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 1: of providers in the country. Anyway, there's a great there 1817 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,759 Speaker 1: was a really terrific piece that they did on Ohio. 1818 01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:18,439 Speaker 1: I think it was Date in Ohio where they talked 1819 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,360 Speaker 1: about how, what's the cash register company that went out? 1820 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,160 Speaker 1: It was a cash register company went to Atlanta and 1821 01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,600 Speaker 1: I'll look it up, National Cash I think it was 1822 01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,080 Speaker 1: called NCR National Cash Register, and they're four billion dollar 1823 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: company left Date in Ohio and the whole city has 1824 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 1: been grappling with this. And they voted for Trump by 1825 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,640 Speaker 1: eighty percent. And I kind of love these leftist documentarians 1826 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 1: that look at Trump voters as if there's some sort 1827 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 1: of zoo animals and now looking into the wild, we 1828 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:48,439 Speaker 1: try to figure out why Cynthia from Ohio actually voted 1829 01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:54,799 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Yes, it is NCR National Cash Register. 1830 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 1: In two thousand and nine, they left Date in Ohio 1831 01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 1: and the city is still trying to grapple with that. 1832 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 1: Thousands of jobs were lost. Anyway, So you go to Dayton, Ohio. 1833 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,559 Speaker 1: And this was a really cool thing is that it 1834 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,200 Speaker 1: showed that there was an entire community of Dayton, Ohio 1835 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 1: of these unbelievably entrepreneurial people. I think they were Armenian 1836 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,360 Speaker 1: or they were Turkish or something. They were they were 1837 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,240 Speaker 1: from that part of the world. Probably, I think it 1838 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:18,040 Speaker 1: was Armenian and they came to distinction, but yes, a 1839 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:21,960 Speaker 1: huge distinction. But I'm confusing it because Armenia and Turkey 1840 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 1: has history, so I'm confusing it. You can actually probably 1841 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,080 Speaker 1: look it up on frontline. I want to be very precise, 1842 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,080 Speaker 1: try to always be very precise in this. But the 1843 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 1: whole point is that these this community came in five 1844 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:36,879 Speaker 1: ten years ago with high skill visas and they've totally 1845 01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,120 Speaker 1: changed Northern Dayton for the better. They own auto dealerships, 1846 01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 1: they have manufacturing plans. Is like this amazing story of 1847 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,160 Speaker 1: legal immigration and their net their net income for their 1848 01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,920 Speaker 1: communities like eighty thousand dollars and the whole community loves them. 1849 01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: I can't I can't remember if it was Armenian or 1850 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 1: Turkish or if it was whatever. It doesn't really matter. 1851 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:55,760 Speaker 1: The whole point is that that's what we want more 1852 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,200 Speaker 1: of Dayton, Ohio is now seeing a net benefit from 1853 01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 1: that type of that was not, by the way, It 1854 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,320 Speaker 1: was not chain migration, it was not family based migration. 1855 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,680 Speaker 1: It was actually people that came here for the right 1856 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,720 Speaker 1: reasons that have entrepreneural activity. And you know what, they're 1857 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,960 Speaker 1: all flying American flags over all their businesses that's talk 1858 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,960 Speaker 1: about how much they love America, from about how much 1859 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,719 Speaker 1: they love this country, how appreciative they are of this country. 1860 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,480 Speaker 1: And I find the people that are sometimes most appreciative 1861 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 1: of this country, our first generation immigrants that came here 1862 01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 1: and fled something and came for a reason. They love America. 1863 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,840 Speaker 1: And the Democrats always make it seem as if we're 1864 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,320 Speaker 1: against these people. They were like, oh, you hate immigrants. No, 1865 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,920 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't hate immigrants. We love immigrants. We 1866 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,720 Speaker 1: love people that come here for the right reasons. We 1867 01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,080 Speaker 1: don't want border jumpers or line cutters. We have to 1868 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,479 Speaker 1: change our language when it comes to immigration. Immigration is 1869 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:54,280 Speaker 1: following the rules. Illegals, our border jumpers and line cutters, 1870 01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 1: those are not people that have obeyed our protocol and 1871 01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,479 Speaker 1: obeyed the set of standards put in one of them, 1872 01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:05,479 Speaker 1: and those standards exist for Those standards exist for the 1873 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,680 Speaker 1: nation state. Those standards exist for a very particular reason. Well, 1874 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 1: it's been a fun couple hours here on the Buck 1875 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 1: Sex Then Radio Show. I want to thank our executive 1876 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 1: producer here of the Charlie Kirk Show. If you liked 1877 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,320 Speaker 1: what you heard, you can go to the Apple podcast. 1878 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 1: Type in Charlie Kirk Show and press subscribe. That really 1879 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,320 Speaker 1: helps us out. We have a weekly episode and sometimes 1880 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,719 Speaker 1: even more than that. Again, I'm the founder of Turning 1881 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 1: Point USATPUSA dot com. It's been such a thrill with 1882 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:35,080 Speaker 1: you these last couple hours. Please get involved on college campuses, 1883 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,240 Speaker 1: if you have a young person, if yourself, want to 1884 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,519 Speaker 1: get involved in the culture war, We'd love to do it. 1885 01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:45,040 Speaker 1: We believe in free markets, the constitution, limited government, American exceptionalism. 1886 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,639 Speaker 1: We believe America is the greatest country in the history 1887 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:52,160 Speaker 1: of the world. That's TPUSA dot com. Again, that's TPUSA 1888 01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Or you could subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show. 1889 01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,000 Speaker 1: We want you to be a subscriber, no charge, tons 1890 01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,800 Speaker 1: of fun involved in the fight. This has been a 1891 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 1: great couple of hours. Hope to see you again soon. 1892 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm hosting the show again tomorrow, so I'll 1893 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. This is Charlie Kirk signing off on 1894 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,760 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Radio Show.