WEBVTT - #75 - John Mayer

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome to episode seventy five of the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>We had John Mayor on the show last week and

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<v Speaker 1>he came by and we talked for an hour, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we put it all out here for you, completely

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<v Speaker 1>unedited for radio purposes. We had to like take some

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<v Speaker 1>segments and put them on the air for radio. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is all of the hours, so and so I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to give it to you. I'm a huge John

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor fan, so for me it was cool. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is episode seventy five. It's John Mayer on myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Bobby Cast. Here it is now. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>Show all right, John Mayer and Studio, Hey, dude, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Dude? Thanks for coming to appreciate that. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for supporting this record in the song and giving

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<v Speaker 1>me an opportunity to come in. You know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we can start this. We were talking yesterday. The last

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<v Speaker 1>concert that I paid money to go to was your show.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you in Minneapolis and we went up and

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<v Speaker 1>watch that show. And I can't go tonight and night.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like three blocks down the road where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>afford it. I can't. I spent money I'm doing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at the Opera tonight, so yeah, I can't come and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always a cool reason not to come to my

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<v Speaker 1>show because someone has a show of their own. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the best reason not to come. So I hope everybody

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<v Speaker 1>goes the whole thing school. You did the show in chapters, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of breaking it up a little bit. Same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with your music. Talk about that for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because I enjoyed how you put out the songs and waves,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning I got to enjoy four songs at a time. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as a music listener myself, I was starting to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the experience of listening to new music change, where like

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't listening to records anymore. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>what was thrown at the top of like if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Spotify placement or if you've got like the Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Store placement. I would listen to those things. I'd listen

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<v Speaker 1>to what was in memes, I'd listen to. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really listening to records, you know, and the records

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<v Speaker 1>that came out by artists that I loved. What's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like you'd hear about it for a second and

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<v Speaker 1>then it would kind of disappear, and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a shame, is that anything? And then you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the record, You're like, this record is great, and so

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<v Speaker 1>all this great music sort of slipping through the cracks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I knew how hard that not

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<v Speaker 1>just I had worked, but how hard people around me

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<v Speaker 1>had worked on this record. It's not necessarily anymore like

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<v Speaker 1>this endeavor where I'm trying to get my name out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you see people who are staying in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio longer than I am, and I'm in the studio

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<v Speaker 1>for hours a day, and the fact that there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who I work with who are there an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half before me, in an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half after me, you want to you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in service to those guys, you know, and in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of getting the record out and making sure people

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<v Speaker 1>see it and making sure people understand what it is

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<v Speaker 1>you made. And the idea became like, well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>it came out the way like the way television is

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<v Speaker 1>going to Netflix and everyone's sort of putting the whole

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<v Speaker 1>season up all at once. What if records just switched

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<v Speaker 1>places with it, and it was like, take four songs,

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<v Speaker 1>get used to it, get your head around it. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another four get used to because I knew each song

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<v Speaker 1>was really important, and twelve is a funny number to

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<v Speaker 1>consume now, you know, Like, hey, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>watch twelve with these, you know what I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>someone's like, someone's like, oh, you're gonna love that series,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta get through the first six. So I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make it a little more easily consumable, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it worked in the sense that people felt

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<v Speaker 1>really familiar with the record by the time I got

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Yeah, I did for me because I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to consume the songs and spend time with

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<v Speaker 1>four of them instead of going, here's the entire dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I got to eat a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>clisser on a little bit of chicken, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the songs because of that. And I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>an album guy anymore, Like when someone puts out a

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<v Speaker 1>whole album, I don't have time, Like that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>leading songs. I mean, I'm like, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen to it three times. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that. But that's a lot of great

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of great stuff. You think

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<v Speaker 1>that like the more stuff there is, the worse it becomes,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's actually the other way, Like everything's really cool

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<v Speaker 1>right now. There's a lot of great music. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great movies. There's a lot of great podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, everybody has a podcast I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to, and it's all great, But I just it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to find these slots in your life to

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<v Speaker 1>get that in, you know, into your world, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it for me. It helped also because I could like,

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<v Speaker 1>this record was so big for me to get out

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<v Speaker 1>the door that I had to break it down into

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<v Speaker 1>four parts just to get it out. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean so big to get out that it took forever

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<v Speaker 1>to mix it too, you know, the record was in

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<v Speaker 1>suspended animation for quite a while. That was the only

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<v Speaker 1>challenge in this record was that the songs had been

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<v Speaker 1>opened for two years. I mean I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>two files that were two years old, you know by

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<v Speaker 1>the time this record came out. So putting it out

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<v Speaker 1>in waves allowed me to finish it in waves too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wasn't all done with it and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just put four out at a time. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got four for you now, so let's hear this

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<v Speaker 1>one here. Why I start with this one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first one that was done, No, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was the first so I had played a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of cat and mouse with people for a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons, and some of it I didn't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be as evasive musically as I became, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like this was the song that was like, Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gone talked up to the post like a good

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<v Speaker 1>radio guy, right up to the post. You ever tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do that? You ever hop in and try to

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<v Speaker 1>do the radio thing where you talk up to song ramps? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do it in the car? Oh you do if

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<v Speaker 1>a song comes on you just you see how hard

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<v Speaker 1>I hit that? Can you do your own? Give me

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<v Speaker 1>any one of them, I'll do it, okay, any one

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<v Speaker 1>of your songs. I'll talk right up to the post.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I mean here, let's go back to your

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<v Speaker 1>first ever. Here we go, ready, three to and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something kind of temperature time out there in Nashville today,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the studio with John Mayer. Been a while

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<v Speaker 1>since he's been here with us. We're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him right after this. But this is a song from

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<v Speaker 1>his very first record. It's no such a thing by

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<v Speaker 1>John Mayor. Check it out. No, yeah, like three seconds loud.

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<v Speaker 1>But that that was where there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a church John, Oh, you're get an imaging? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Have I tried it? Though? That was good? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close you did. How about what if I really

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<v Speaker 1>knew the temperature? Though? It would have been if you

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<v Speaker 1>had nailed the temperature. Yeah, improv to the temperature. Whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>when recording this record, do you have like Steve and

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<v Speaker 1>Piano record with you or do you just bring them

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<v Speaker 1>out and play? Uh? I would write as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I could and have them come and then kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flesh out the tunes, and then when we were done

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<v Speaker 1>with that, I'd be like, hey, stay around for an

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<v Speaker 1>hour or two, and then we kind of do this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called free play, which is where you set up

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you take I take advantage of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to jam with those guys any time they're around,

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<v Speaker 1>So we set up like I set up to Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try something, and for an hour or two I

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<v Speaker 1>try to find something in the universe with those guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the same room. But most of the time it's

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<v Speaker 1>uh me writing something getting good enough to where they

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<v Speaker 1>can come in and play on it, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the finishing touches on it. It seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>me having gone to a show, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to I mean, I'll show you my nerdiness little.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've been a fifteen Mayor show. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been around them in the shows. So I'm a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big fan than you are. You welcome free, though I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay for many of the tickets, Like Lee, is

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<v Speaker 1>that since what Lee two thousand three or four you've

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<v Speaker 1>been hooking me up? Why did you pay for the

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<v Speaker 1>one in Minneapolis? Because well, I didn't pay for the tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>but I flew up there and paid for the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he was like, I get your tickets. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it better. I get better seats. All the

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<v Speaker 1>truth comes out, I bought worse seats and then he

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a front row seats. He weren't standing outside

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<v Speaker 1>the Coconuts record store, That's true, I wasn't. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Back to Michael, what my question? You were explaining that

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<v Speaker 1>you have you look the happiest when you're playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the trio during this show, any trip to that, um probably, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a freedom to that that. Nobody's really quite sure

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do. Three super capable guys who aren't

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't talk about what they were going to do

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<v Speaker 1>before they got on stage to do it. Uh, so

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<v Speaker 1>anybody could start it. Sometimes I'll just stand there and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you're just here, Okay, Steve starting it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's it's the it's like total freedom. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you can kind of embrace the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that band is. You don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about whether it's going to be whether you're playing a

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<v Speaker 1>song that people know from the radio, or whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing it whether people are tired of hearing this or

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<v Speaker 1>whether they want to hear that they're kind of resigned to. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing three songs with this power trio that they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to really totally know unless they're like

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<v Speaker 1>super fans. So I have fun in that freedom for

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<v Speaker 1>three songs. It's like, look, you're gonna get this super

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<v Speaker 1>powerful blues trio thing. I was thinking about Marty McFly

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, you might not understand that, but your kids

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna love it. That's how I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back to Change the Sea Dance. There are times I

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<v Speaker 1>look out into the crowd and I see some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are not totally initiated into the blues

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<v Speaker 1>rock thing. And I feel like I'm Marty McFly at

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<v Speaker 1>the Enchantment Out of the Sea dance in nineteen fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't. They probably don't get who Marty McFly

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<v Speaker 1>is either. At the same they would also a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be I hope, I hope it becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>Citizen Kane reference in the next ten fifteen years, good

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<v Speaker 1>back to the future reference. If it's not understood. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure we have a connection. John Mayor's here now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm buds with the guys from the Zach Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Band and Clay Cook and oh and I know the story.

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<v Speaker 1>But you and Clay were Berkeley together and Clay was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's move down to Atlanta. And you and

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<v Speaker 1>Clay kind of had a duo together from you all right, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we started. That's how I started right out

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<v Speaker 1>of college, was playing in an acoustic duo. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you move down to Atlanta, and so why at Lanta

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<v Speaker 1>of all places? He had Clay had family in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I think we can do and he said

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<v Speaker 1>there was a great music scene down there, which he

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely right. He did have family, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>long about either family and a music scene. So we

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<v Speaker 1>moved down there and just started doing open mic nights

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<v Speaker 1>and writing and you know, he that's how I got

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<v Speaker 1>my start in music was following him down to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>We lived in Snellville, Georgia. Are you on the radio?

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<v Speaker 1>And Snaillville, Georgia where everybody's somebody that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>catchphrase for that snail like the snail the bug or

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<v Speaker 1>snell but it's pronounced snail Ville, but it's Snellville, S

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<v Speaker 1>and E L L. So you guys moved to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>and you ride a lot of things together. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>wrote of we had we had, we had written you know,

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<v Speaker 1>five six songs at that point, we're still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put it all together. So you guys decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>your own different way. Is that big decision for you too? Yes? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well no one's ever cared about this. Yeah. Uh, falling out.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a falling out creatively, did you part of it?

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of it? Uh? The part that I

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<v Speaker 1>can attest to. Um said, I have pretty pretty big feet,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty strong head. I don't think anybody could have been

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<v Speaker 1>in a duo with me at that time. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>part that I can take responsibility for is that I

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<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't extremely collaborative. I was, Uh yeah, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I was a strong group worker. Well

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<v Speaker 1>were your roles and that duo, because everybody's got the

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<v Speaker 1>role inside of a team. He was and still is

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<v Speaker 1>hyper musical, incredible musical mind. Um and we were also

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, completely we're really good friends now. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we are a pure closeness. There's these are two

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<v Speaker 1>kids where the stars of their town, the musical stars

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<v Speaker 1>of their town, coming together, obviously seeing something in one

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<v Speaker 1>another that they identify with making music together, but never

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<v Speaker 1>having really given over to someone else. I probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have two really strong solo kind of mindsets coming together

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<v Speaker 1>to collaborate. And where I think if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still going, well it doesn't add up. Uh put me

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<v Speaker 1>in his life as a guest, and it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little strange. It's like two people sharing a birthday, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he I was, I entered his entire social life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think there was an identity thing

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<v Speaker 1>of like wait, what's mine and what's yours? And again

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<v Speaker 1>taking responsibility for it. Um, I have very big shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not necessarily subtle, especially at that age. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mess around with young John. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to mess around nineteen year old John Mayor who just

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<v Speaker 1>figured out that the world is bendable and he's out

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<v Speaker 1>to just destroy it. You know. So you decided to

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<v Speaker 1>move to California, like to make it well. I I had,

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<v Speaker 1>interestingly enough, like most of my team came out of

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<v Speaker 1>that time in Atlanta, you know. And then I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to New York, and then I kind of began this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of jumping around thing for me, Like I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>jumping around. Yeah, because you have a house, and I

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<v Speaker 1>where's your dog by the way, because I was watch

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. No, that's that's a real question. Did

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<v Speaker 1>your dog stay in Montana? My dog does not stay

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<v Speaker 1>in Montana. This is this is what happened. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a dog. I wanted to have a dog on the

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<v Speaker 1>road road dog. Uh. A dear friend of mine happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be an incredible dog trainer. She took my dog trained.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog turned into a per fick beast. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm taking my dog on the

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<v Speaker 1>road dog hates music. Hates music. He thinks it's like thunder,

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<v Speaker 1>like thunderstuck, So he's trembling in the dressing room first night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Red Rocks was like the first place we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, well I got a dog, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>this cowering in the corner. Also, like when he's home

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<v Speaker 1>with me, if I pick up a guitar and plug

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<v Speaker 1>it and start playing it, he does the funniest thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't want to offend me, but he like

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<v Speaker 1>slowly SLINKs his two paws front paws off the couch

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<v Speaker 1>and just waddles out of the room because I'm playing music.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't gonna work. But it turned out that

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<v Speaker 1>my dog trainer, she loved him so much, and she said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a part of our family too, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>the mommy. And I thought that's awesome. So my dog

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<v Speaker 1>lives a better life than I do. He lives in Brentwood, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I pick him up. It's like doggy daycare, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's months long. Sounds more like custody. It's joint customer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes so, but but I've heard of people doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know singers who do that. You know they try

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<v Speaker 1>to get a dog, and it's a very noble idea

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<v Speaker 1>to get a dog. Okay, I'm growing up. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get I wanna get something to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>and responsibility for. And then you realize that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be you taking the elevator down to the street level

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver, Colorado at seven in the morning to make

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<v Speaker 1>it go potty. So it's it's a wonderful thought. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, where's the dog. Yeah, the dog. I was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I pick up the dog on my way out to

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<v Speaker 1>Montana and we get to know each other again on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane and then and we're then we're there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got fifteen acres of pure dog park. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to take him out. He's a black lab, so

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to run too far. There are bears, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are Yeah, I've seen the snapchats. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>bear in my yard a couple of summers ago. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>scared of bears, man. I'll walk outside across the driveway

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark and just totally scared of bears. I

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<v Speaker 1>know a couple of people in my life were like,

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<v Speaker 1>walk out in the dark and they're totally scared of bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears are scary. I mean they sell bear pepper spray

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<v Speaker 1>at the supermarket, and if you go hiking, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to bring bear pepper spray. I have a feeling in

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<v Speaker 1>your demographic there's plenty of people who have with them

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<v Speaker 1>as they listen to this bear pepper spray. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're supposed to do if you encounter a bear?

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<v Speaker 1>Play dead or run or scream? I think it's different

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<v Speaker 1>for each bear. It actually is. I think it's deffer

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<v Speaker 1>bridged person too. It's different for each bear. Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be prepared. You're supposed to be prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to have bear pepper spray. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you see bear poop, you're supposed to sort of get

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<v Speaker 1>out of there if you see you know, there's things

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<v Speaker 1>that ever, but I've heard I've heard things like like

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<v Speaker 1>a bear will mall you but not kill you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like you think it's left, but it's just hiding

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<v Speaker 1>under some leaves, just watching you die or just watching

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<v Speaker 1>you be injured. There, Like these bears are serious, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not messing around. This is true that the bear will

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<v Speaker 1>maim you and then sort of hide and watch you.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said you heard, and now you're saying it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>You've converted in like two sentences this this is fact

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<v Speaker 1>because I have I have people who I trust in

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<v Speaker 1>me around my life, and they've told you that the

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<v Speaker 1>bear will attack you and then watch you. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>bear will attack you. I think a grizzly will attack you,

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<v Speaker 1>bring you to the edge of death, and then watch

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<v Speaker 1>you and if you get up, then it will kill

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<v Speaker 1>you and you eat that. So it's like Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it's the revenue. Yes in Montana. Uh, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a Facebook page or something? People can verify this.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't worry, they will every bit of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel really good about this information. John Mayor hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Let me talk about blue Apron for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love blue Apron? Do you love loves? Blue Apron?

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<v Speaker 1>Is lunch boxes? How many times do you blue apron?

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<v Speaker 1>A week? Three times a week? See, I'll have it

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<v Speaker 1>once twice launch pretty much ever mild just about he's

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<v Speaker 1>at home. It's so easy. I mean, it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>my front door and I've already got the recipe. I

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<v Speaker 1>just pull it out and sometimes I can even surprise

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and cook it myself. Is that what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the move? Yeah, that's the move. I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a chef, but she knows I use Blue Apron.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, back in the studio, John Mayer's here with

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<v Speaker 1>us today. Let me play this song here. I like

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<v Speaker 1>this one, Rosy that's my hall of notes jam Philly Saltzer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. Talk up to the posts again the guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you talk up to the guitar? Solo vocal? It

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<v Speaker 1>depends what format your in. So if I listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>did rock for a while, would you've talked over this

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<v Speaker 1>next time? I would have talked over the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been like the vocal. Yeah, I would be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're with John Mayre. We're gonna play a whole seven

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<v Speaker 1>songs in a row, John Ayr, We're here all morning long, Hedge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like karaoke, sixty four bars instrumental, and then then

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<v Speaker 1>you just stand there with your friends. I will that's

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<v Speaker 1>very vocal. It's almost its own hook. It's its own hook.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd probably talk over it now. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>probably talk over it. Well, let's give it. Listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie right now. Check it out. Come down and proud

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself on that one. Yeah, I have to make up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm truck again, Rember. When we your it's fluffy. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you run your songs about you? Right one? You go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we think of this boom? Who who's that person? Me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? And and even there's even people I would

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<v Speaker 1>run my songs buying the go that's great, and I go, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. So it's me again, big feet, big strong head,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it's most of it's in house. I don't necessarily, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't necessarily collaborate very well, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of know. I kind of know what I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't finish songs that aren't I think strong enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make records. I don't usually have any extra songs

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<v Speaker 1>left over that aren't you know, I don't have parts

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<v Speaker 1>falling off of them or what I'm done with an album.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, I I know what makes a me

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<v Speaker 1>song now and what doesn't. And they are even good

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<v Speaker 1>song ideas that I have, like really cool things. I

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<v Speaker 1>listened back to it and I go, I don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know myself well enough now that I can

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<v Speaker 1>do more stuff than I should be than I should do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can do more stuff with a guitar or

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<v Speaker 1>with a band or with a drum programming than I

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<v Speaker 1>then then I should have as and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as music that's called my music. So it's really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to pass like a lot of times I

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<v Speaker 1>call it like it's like a four quadrant test, like

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<v Speaker 1>is it good? Do I like it? Which is different

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<v Speaker 1>than is it good? Right? So you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>have a song that's of that you don't like. You

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<v Speaker 1>can have a song you like, that's not good? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it me? That's the third, So it can be good

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<v Speaker 1>and you like it, but if it's not you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I don't know, if I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I really want this to be my thing. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth question is like, do I want to play this

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<v Speaker 1>every night as I go on tour? And if it

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<v Speaker 1>passes all four of those questions, then I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good song. I don't know what a hit

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<v Speaker 1>is anymore, but I know what is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>songs where you're like, oh, this is bulletproof. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>around the world with this and Rosie it's like anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>you go, people they're don't necessarily like cheer for the

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<v Speaker 1>recognition of the tune, but the cheer because like, it

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:40.840
<v Speaker 1>feels so good, you know. So I'm pretty good about

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<v Speaker 1>being my own A and R guy. Do you play

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<v Speaker 1>all your instruments on your demos? Yes? Yes I do.

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes that's tricky because the ignorance of my playing

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a certain instrument that I don't really play predominantly adds

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<v Speaker 1>to the um the certain geneseequa of it. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you bring a really great musician in and

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<v Speaker 1>then you gotta be like, will you played a little dumber?

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>You're like, will you do it with just your left hand?

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Like can I hit you in the head once with

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a vase? And then can you do it? I go

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<v Speaker 1>with the vas. I don't say vase. I'm fancy and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so I have people try and replicate that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of half half awake kind of way of playing. What

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<v Speaker 1>is your day? Like becauld you wake up at what

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<v Speaker 1>time depending on time zone? Touring, Yeah, depending on the

0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 1>time zone, like anywhere between ten and noon, depending on

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the times. And you do what when you wake up?

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I dive into like the excitement of the day via Instagram, Twitter, text, email,

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and I do I go round and around for like

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>an hour, you know, like I was thinking this literally yesterday.

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>If you want to offend most of the world with

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<v Speaker 1>how good you have life, you don't. You wouldn't talk

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>about like how much money you have. You would talk

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>about how you haven't been like underslept in months. Like

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you could say like, yeah, I have a G four jet,

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 1>People like, yeah, good for you to be, Like I

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 1>have a woken up tired in a month. People would

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>be like, how dare you? How dare you going so

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't really wake up tired. I just wake up

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>at whatever time I have to wait my body system.

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. You wake up whenever your eyes open. Yeah,

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I got I have. That's the only way to do

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 1>this for a living. The only way to do it

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>for a living is to sleep has to come first.

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Sleep is like water. If you're in the survivalism of it,

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to have sleep. I quit drinking so I

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have to deal with hangovers. And I'm I'm a

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>dangerous man without a hangover. Why did you quit drinking?

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Two things? Voice and I knew that if I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to not cancel shows for either health or mental health,

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to have to be um excited

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>every time I woke up, to be honest with you,

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and I have to be fully portable as a human being.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 1>And we've all been hungover on an airplane. Those are

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>long flights. Those are long, sweaty, trembling flights. So I

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>wake up in the morning, I'm ready to go. Like,

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like psyched. Do you still practice at all? I

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>do practice? Very good question. Um, I think that I'm

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>about to practice, and then I plug in and I'm like, no,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm still good, and then I put it down because

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I've already started. Like when I was younger, I practice,

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>but now like I played with the best musicians in

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the world, like in the world that I can brag about,

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and then to go home alone to play without that sound,

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You're like, it's more like, yeah, just checking, still good,

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 1>put it down and then go do something else. So

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 1>what am I going to practice? I play? So like

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what's your hobby? I mean, not that's your job, but

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like what do you do with all this? Like you

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you wake up when you want. You don't have to practice,

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.479
<v Speaker 1>like I burned large swaths of time just to kill it.

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Just I'm a murderer of you've been on the road before.

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>You're you're just trying to get to the show, the

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>show we love, the show matters, and you're trying to

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>basically encase yourself in a protective seal in between shows

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and do whatever it takes so that you're rested and

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you're healthy. And for me, I'm not necessarily into the

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Bourdain of life, like, oh I have an off day,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh what kind of food they have here? Oh it's good.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I might know. I pumped the room to like seventy

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>five degrees. Stay in my pajamas all day. Use every towel.

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what I said, use every towel. Cleaning ladies come in.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I just I call them the bad idea cleanup crew.

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I just come on in and used every towel. Yes

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I did. Did you use this one as a napkin? Yes?

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I did ever use a bath towels a napkin? Bobby

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>in a hotel? Yes, I have and X, but no, no,

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I've I called the everything towel. It's the I call

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 1>it the luxury clean X. I get you, man, I

0:25:55.960 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>get it for the room. Well, that's why we are horrible,

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>horrible people in the hotels. They leave those little notes

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to be conscious of, you know, the earth, and use

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>one towel. Yeah, A towel on the rack means I'll

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>use it again. A towel in the bathtub means a

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>towel with barbecue sauce on it means I hate my life.

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I also feel like they don't change the comforter anyway,

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so we're even well. I can tell when they change

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 1>the comfort some places, I'll put the note up it

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>says your comforter has been changed. I think the note

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just stays up. I think they just put the note

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<v Speaker 1>back up there. I don't listen. Hotel life is a

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>bit rich. Continue what does that mean? It means you

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just run bits about hotels all day? Um? Yes, so, uh,

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>we're having to debate in this room before you came in,

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and you mayn't want to answer this. Which song are

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you just tired of playing? Um? I'm tired of playing

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>waiting on the World changed Boom? I said, why that

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have one? Or that would be that one? Yeah? Yeah,

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>why do you think it is? I have a whole

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>different reason. Why do you think it? I have a reason.

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of hearing it? Why do you ever reading?

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny, let's go, let's boog it, let's book it.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Here we go. I'm leaning into this. Why do you

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>why are you tired of playing it? Um? It's it's

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>honest to god, It's just a tactile thing. It's just

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>after a while, like, by the way, you're gonna be like, oh, well,

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I hated the message. I was like, I just didn't

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like the way I felt in my hand. Um, it's

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>right outside of my range. Like when I had vocal

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>surgery that I had a procedure and like it. It

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>cost me like two or three notes, and I needed

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>those notes for winning on the World to Change, So

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I kind of kind of to sneak around it. So

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly it never really was the most comfortable

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>thing to sing, so weirdly enough, like all the songs

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that became very popular are are very difficult to sing

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>for me. Meanwhile, all I wanted to do is like

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>have a hit with like who says a kick is?

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't just wake up at five in the morning be

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>able to do it? And uh so it's out of

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>my range. It's also musically, um, pretty pretty circular, you know,

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>so there's not a ton of room in it. It's

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you kind of get into it. You have to say

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>your piece and then get out. It's not necessarily, uh

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>meant for exploring the musical space of the song. Now

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you go, why don't you like waiting in the world

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of changing? I feel like it's not in your range anymore,

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you lost a couple of notes. Are you kidding?

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Are you just saying I didn't know I was going

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that I was right. This is the true, the true,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because on that record, I feel like that's the one

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>song that is different than all the rest sonically listen,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>not a whole album. And I'm like, man, that one

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>could probably go on a couple other records. That might

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>be true. But also it's I felt like it was

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a radio song. Did you write that to be on

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the radio? You know? Talk about running it by somebody.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>A dear friend of mine at the time. I sent

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>it to her and she said, I don't hear it.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's and I think it's huge. I

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be huge. It's I don't really hear it.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna be huge. I'm weird when

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>it comes to hits, man, Like, I don't know what

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>makes a song of mine a hit. I have a

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling it's like there's something in like you do stand up, uh,

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like your middle funny joke to you is

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>your funniest joke to the crowd? I don't. I never

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>know what jokes canna be the funniest. It's the one

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that that you're the least excited about, like it's your throwaway.

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>They the accidental because you're interested in the upper ranges

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of your mind, Like, how can I be more clever,

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>How can I be more interesting? And then somewhere in

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>your in your middle is where the crowd kind of

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>grabs onto what you're saying, Like the crowd probably applauds,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and you go, You're like, oh that, Oh you like that? Okay,

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>because that really didn't feel like anything coming out of

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>my head. It's the same thing with music. It's like

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff where I'm like, oh my god, this

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>is so complex and interesting and people are gonna love it,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like they kind of don't. It's the stuff that for me,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's a little bit um. It bores me,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>just the slightest bit, and it becomes like whatever I

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>find boring in it, people find accessible. And here's the

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>joke I'm thinking about the opera tonight. Tell me funny. Yay,

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't used it yet. We're happy to bleep it out. Okay,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you said the guy that got caught pledging himself with

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the movies to the emoji. Yes, this is good. It's

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>not that good. No, I mean it's a good it's

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a good. Right. Everyone is freaking out about the guy

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that to himself in a theater. I'm just wondering

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>which emoji he thought was super hot. Okay, so that's

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a setup. That's not that's not a punch line yet,

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it's still a setup, right, So then you break it down.

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that the Sauca Lady? And then I go through

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing and then at the end I end up

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>with the purpose. Yeah, there's a lot of places plants?

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it the poop emoji? But I don't think people

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>are like that's funny as I start rolling through emoji's Like,

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's funny. It's funny if you can break

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it out. And I hate that I'm on your radio

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>show telling you how to be funny. It's okay because

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you songs I think very good. So we're

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>all good. We're in a good place. Yeah, I think.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I think as long as you just like there's a

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>place to go there sure like getting basically you're talking

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>about emoji's represent is a fetishist. I like the girl

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>because maybe there see, there you go, there you go,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>let's see, that's a whole. I probably can't tell that

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that which emoji if you had only one, Like what

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>do you think? Somebody has a gun in your head?

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And like you have to pleasure yourself to an emoji. Yeah,

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the one you're gonna pick and be like, look,

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll make do the Police Girl. Yeah yeah, yeah, see

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I should join you on on stage of the opry.

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>We have a thing going to come out. We riff

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and Police Girl too. Mikes. Yeah that, by the way,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>che did that. We did that. You did it in

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. We did in San Francisco, Atlanta. We're gonna

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do some what we did Red Rocks in Colorado.

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Though? So I go on stage

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and I played for like minutes. He comes out and

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he's he's working on his new hour. He's almost done

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 1>with this new hour, which is phenomenal, and then he

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>calls me out and I'm sort of a DJ. It's

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>like two guys at a party who found a guitar

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm the DJ of like a joke DJ. So

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he loves music, Dave loves to like joke about songs,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's almost like a the Savant where he's

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>almost he's he's a musical MC as well. It's really

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>straight like he's performing music but he's not singing. It's

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>really hard to explain, but he's he's a genius and obviously,

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and so we throw ideas back and forth, and I

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>can kind of play anything if I've ever heard it before.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>So he can throw a song to me and I

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>just kind of know it. So it's a little bit

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like he throws a song idea to me, I do it,

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and he works it into this brilliance. Like basically it's

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>like watching the Chapel Shaw. So it's like jazz with jokes. Yeah,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that's right. And and and we have little we're starting

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to develop things that we know work. So it's like

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like a it's like two people thinking with the

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>same brain. Now, like like the way you build a

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>file cabinet of jokes in your head, we're building a

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>file cabinet of jokes based on songs. Like there's a

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>foot loose joke that's just super funny because I'm I'm

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>playing the footloose lick downing ironing, ironing earner, and with

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>his mind he takes it into you know how out

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of place that would be. You know in the quote

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>unquote hood you know the quote unquote which song when

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you start to get the biggest pot from when you

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>first first second? Now, what's really weird in keeping with

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a conversation of like who knows what makes a hit

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of mine? Or whether people like slow dancing in a

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>burning room? Man, Like I play slow dancing in a

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>burning room, and if you had never heard any of

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>my music, you'd be like, oh, was this his massive hit?

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You're like, no deep album track, and it wasn't even

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Almosn't even a single. I mean there are

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>things about me that I don't end the other people

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>for having to work with. One of those things is

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>like I don't put records out where you're like, oh yeah, Like,

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I'm not technically a pop artist. I

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.479
<v Speaker 1>don't hand in a record where people are like, oh,

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a smash, this is smash. It's hard to

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>be my record company. Like, not that I think that

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>they've been like brilliant this time out, but we do

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>live in an ever shifting landscape. But uh, it's it's

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>really hard to be my record company. I give twelve

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>songs to you. Four of them are like R and

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>B bangers. Four of them are like, you know, like

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>what someone else would call it sappy who stick ballad?

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, so I don't really know what makes a hit,

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but this is my new record, the Project, that's the

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Lindsay L record. So can we get a shot out

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of my new record the Project. Part of it was

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know, they didn't really recognize me on the cover,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>but this is who I this is my new record.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I went by Lindsay L and U can we play

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>cut off that? So yeah, so there it is. This

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.879
<v Speaker 1>this is a great recording, and you're asking me like seriously, yeah,

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a great it's a great recording. What's the difference recording?

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I just hear a song the way the way it

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>was engineered. It's set. It's gorgeous. It's the best. That's

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the Gravity is the best record, Like you know, it's

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a difference between song of the year record of the year.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Grammy's like, that's this isn't this is quite a record.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>This is how spare it is. If I stopped talking,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>well now I'm just gonna keep going because we're so

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>really key into the record, especially the vocals. This is

0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>gravity from continue checking out Gravity when I want to

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>When I want your show Minneapolis, she didn't play it.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I was sad, and I know you get that every

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>show because you can't play everything. Well, well no, but

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you saw me at the beginning of this tour where

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm gonna just play whatever I want,

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and the crowd was adamant that I played Gravity, so

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>we added Gravity back in every night. That's cool. Look,

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's cool to be that artist where you know there

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>are things that people identify with you so so much

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that you have to play them. I dig it, and

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll play Gravity every night for the rest of my life.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a song I'll never get tired of. Yeah,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>there's something about it. It's simple, but you can insert

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 1>however you feel. And gravity can be different every day

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>when you when you sing to it. It could be

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>emotional gravity, it can be your time spent in space

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:49.479
<v Speaker 1>if you literal gravity. Yeah, I don't know the movie

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>with George that's right. And what's your favorite song off

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the new record? Oh? Well, you know I have the

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>one about She doesn't know any words to it, she

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't knows the parts of it. No, I know about how.

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's really really clever about how you

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>keep the shampoo in the shower in case and romantic.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I think every girl sort of would would

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 1>want a guy to to sing that for her. Got

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 1>sticky hands man, it's hard, hard, getting hard, getting out.

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's it's good. But this song, no dude

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to have to write this song though, Yeah, but

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>he's both being gonerable all songs. Sorry, enjoy it. No

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>one knew what to do with it for listening because

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>she told me, what do you get this song to like?

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>And this leads in the blood conversation like if you're

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>a station that's like a triple A station, you played

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>John Man music and all of a sudden, Columbia is like, hey,

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>here's the next John May song. Like it doesn't fit

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>anyone's radio station, but does it have to fit? Because

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a radio I think nothing has to fit radio.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, man, I mean, maybe that's why we're

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>still filling the places up with people's because I'm not

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>following this sort of format rule, you know, like I

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>put mixed tapes out. I feel like so and you're

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>here for a reason because you have a song. And

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember I went to this show and I was

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>talking and by the way, Lee Levesner is your you

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>want to explain you who he is? Lee Livesner uh

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>died in ninette and it's come back as a ghost

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>to set things straight. Is that correct? Yeah? I don't know. Sorry,

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just pitching movie ideas now, Leah. For years, thirteen

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>years or so, like Lee has been in one way

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>another with you champion, my champion of the stuff that

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I make. He I there are times he probably doesn't

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>see where a song could work and promptly stuffs that

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>thought deep deep, deep down inside him and returns back

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>with the thought that this song can be huge and

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>goes out and fights for it. Mean, there's a guy,

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I've the funniest thing you ever said. It is life

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>was about Still Feel Like Your Man, because I thought

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that it could change the like I, I always believe

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>that a song can change a format, a song can

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>change people's thinking. And we're backstage at Madison Square, Carden,

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Columbia is there and this is right before Still Feel

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Like Your Bad comes out. And I looked at him.

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>We had just finished a hug, but now we've got

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>hands on each other's shoulders, and I said, I really

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>believe and still feel like you're man, and he said,

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and we know that you do. And I thought that

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was just absolutely the funniest thing that I record company,

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Like the funniest if it was if there was a

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Curb Enthusiasm style show about my life, I would write

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that in and that would be in the trailer. It's

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>hilarious and we know that you do. That's a guy

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>who can't lie. Man. It was amazing. But listen to

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>the jam three days. I lost my mind and I

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was only thinking about this song three days and a trance.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing a trance? You're only about bringing

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the song with life. I was in a therapist office

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I still feel like her. I still

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like her Mania and I went, oh, no, here

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.919
<v Speaker 1>we go. It's I got in the car, I wrote down,

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>still I still feel like your Man. And I looked

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>at that title and I went, if we play our

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>cards right, that is a major song I had felt like.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>And I immediately googled the title I still feel like

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>your Man, because I thought someone must have had this idea.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Whenever I have a good idea, I'm not even excited

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. I get immediately frightened that someone else has

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>already had that good idea. So I google that good idea.

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>No search results. That's when I got even more excited.

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I went, okay, I'm actually getting right now, like excited.

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>My heart is racing as I talked about this, because

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>this is about how you sneak up on an on

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 1>an idea, trying to catch a greasy pig, and you're

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just like, Okay, there it is. Let's not sing it

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>too soon. Let's not just throw some BS cliche stuff

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>on this idea. And for for a whole day, I

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:00.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't sing it. I feel like your Man. I didn't

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.919
<v Speaker 1>make a note with it because I knew that whatever

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I sang, I was gonna start getting attached to and

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get attached to a dumb idea

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 1>for still feel like. So now I just have sheets

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>of paper and I'm typing all different ideas about still

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like You're Man, and I don't list think. And

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>then I was in the shower and I was like,

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>could I do it like a Prince ballad? I still

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>feel lack you me? You know, no, that's gonna be shallow. Okay,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>don't don't even sing it. Don't even sing it. And

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>then I had already had written this idea, this chord changes,

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and then one day I went in the studio and

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the greatest luck in the world. That this

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>one idea that I'd written musically locked in would just

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>still feel like you're man thing, And it became this

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>like we I called it ancient Japanese R and B.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>If you listen to it's like super staccato and clean

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>toda didn't doom like I've never heard anything like it

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>comes from me. And so for the next three days

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I did nothing but enter like this. It's hard to explain,

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. If you can feel it, you're a

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit not on earth, You're like half of you

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is in another place. And for three days I did

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>nothing but bring this song into my life, and I

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>listened to a lot of Marvin Gay. There's definitely like

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>some Marvin Gay thing happening in the tune that I

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to block. And when I was done with it,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this really interesting jam that's like hopeful but also like

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>has the saddest line I've ever written. I literally cried

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>when I wrote I still keep your shampoo in my

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>shower in case you want to wash your hair. That's

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the saddest lyric I've ever written in my life. Think

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of how much desperation is in that line. She's not

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.959
<v Speaker 1>coming to wash her hair at your house. It's over.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>But the idea of keeping the torch lit where you say, well,

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping it there. It's like, you know, there's like

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>this dog in Japan and dog had an owner. The

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>owner would go to the train every day and the

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>dog would follow the owner of the train and then

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>be there at the exact time the own or came

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>back from work off the train. The dog will be

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>waiting on the train platform. The one day the owner died,

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and the dog still waited at that platform for his

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>owner for years until the dog passed away. I love

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that story. It is true. There's a statue of the

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>dog where the dog once stood himself, and I very

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:26.240
<v Speaker 1>much in breakups feel like the statue of that dog,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>not even the dog, I feel like the statue of

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the dog. Fantastic story that I take a drink of water. Yeah, see,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but where are you? I saw hope in you keeping

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the shampoo there. I think that's I think it's lovely. Yeah, everybody,

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's different. Like for me, I was like, oh, that's

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 1>so vulnerable, and it's vulnerable. But I felt like me,

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>like I would do that. Yeah, she does come back.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>So the shower is a very vulnerable play, you know,

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and and you stare at it as this sort of totem.

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It's still life, it's the last It's like someone's shampoo

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is what they use in their most intimate, solitary moments,

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and they've brought their shampoo to your place and they've

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>left it there because the implication is I'm going to

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>be here so often it's worth my time to place

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>some shampoo here and get some more for myself because

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I really feel like I'm going to take, you know,

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>setup shop here and then it doesn't end up working out.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>But the shampoo, they're like the kids of divorce. The

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>shampoo and condition are like children of divorce. And how

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 1>do you break it to the kids? Never wants to suffer? Yeah,

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I have feeling you and I could bullshit for six

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>hours straight. Let me let me. I gotta call the

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>more because around the time here, How about this the

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>fact that you see colors when you play. I don't

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>have synesthesia, and people, okay, that's that's where people know

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>people somebody, Um, why would someone fake that about you? Then? Well,

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>people misinterpret my metaphors a lot, which is easily done.

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And I don't have synesthesia. I have probably some um

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 1>interpretive form of synesthesis. Synesthesia, by the way, is some

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>people have a clinical I don't know if i'd call

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it a disorder. It was a gift of sorts whereby

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>words and sounds actually are interpreted as colors in their brain.

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I have it, but not visually. I'm pretty close to

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I have relative synesthesia. Like what are you seeing when

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>you're playing a solo? What are you singing in your head?

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>How are your numbers? Colors? Muscle memory? What is it? Shapes? Colors? Uh? Geometry?

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>That's actually, man, you're a very good interviewer, Like you're

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>asking really interesting, untrodden on questions that are exciting to answer. Uh.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>The way that I do it is tons and tons

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and tons of streams of possibilities of shapes, What's where?

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Where does it go? And I've done it for so

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.879
<v Speaker 1>long now that a lot of that data has sort

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of dissolved and it's all feeling now. I just know

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>where it is. I just it's very Jedi now, like

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I just know where it is, and it's sometimes I

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I know It'll be different every single night.

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 1>But I found some weird confluence of what I know

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and what I don't know, but what I'm pretty sure

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is going to be there. And it's more fun than

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>ever to play guitar because I'm not playing it like

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.399
<v Speaker 1>a student of guitar anymore, Like I'm I'm just sort

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of forgetting it all. It's like a photographer wouldn't think about,

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.280
<v Speaker 1>like what f stopped there at? You just start shooting

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>after a certain period of time. Is it easier to

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>go for a jog or to play a solo? Because

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this, when you move your hands, it's

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just happening. It's just happening. At this point, it's a whole.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>It's I got, you know, it's its own other world.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, whereas you run you have to be somewhat

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.240
<v Speaker 1>conscious of your steps. Are you conscious of your hands?

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>And there are sometimes when I'm playing, like I looked

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>out of my hands and I go, what is any

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of this? Like as I'm playing, I'm like, what is

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>any of this stuff? You know, Like you've had the

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>word mustard twelve times in a rug, You're like, mustard, mustard,

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a weird word. Not much. I did it

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the other day with certain and I went, did I

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 1>ever really hear the word certain? Or did I just

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of ignore it? For did I have a really

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>pay attention to the words certain certain mustard, A certain mustard,

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>certain m's real certain Let me hear one more thing. Uh.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So you went out and play with the Dead Company, Yeah,

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>which is fantastic. But I wondered how two things. One

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you had to learn a lot of songs, and too

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you had to learn them so good because you're playing with,

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the greatest ever. You're playing a

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>big shadow. So what's that pressure like as compared to

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>John Mayer pressure, because it seems like it would be bigger.

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I always knew that it was. Sorry, I'm

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>not on Mike always. I think that I all aways

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 1>knew it was in my heart, like I could do it.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I couldn't do it the day I

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>said that I could do it, or that the day

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I said I was gonna do it. But I knew

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in my heart that I had that that I could

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>somehow do something to it and with it that would

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>be valuable. So I remember looking at it like, Okay,

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>this is this might be in October, it's like April now,

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.879
<v Speaker 1>And I looked at the number of days that I had.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the number of songs that were to learn,

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 1>and I went, all right, that's three a day, let's go,

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I just knew in my heart. You know.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 1>It's like people ask me sometimes, like will you do

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>this documentary about this person's life because we know you

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>liked them, And I go like, well, I liked him,

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know what to say, and I don't

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>really have anything to say. It's like, doesn't it doesn't

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>really reverberate inside of me, So I don't really know

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>if I can talk about it or like I'll have

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>anything to say about it. The topic of Grateful Dead

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>music for me at that time was like I want

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>no thing but to think about it, talk about it.

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>So I knew that it had taken some sort of

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.360
<v Speaker 1>purchase inside of me on a deeper level than anything

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>ever had, and all I had to do was just

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>take it day by day. And I felt like with

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>my knowledge of the guitar and I think understanding where

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the music was coming from, even if I didn't necessarily

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have that myself, like I could play genealogists like I

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>could I could figure out the d n A. I

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>looked at it like a contractor looking at like an

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>empty space, going like, yeah, I can I can build you.

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I can build this out. You can't eat here now,

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>But in six months I think I can think I

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>can build this. And it was really cool to become

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a student. I didn't tour, I didn't make a dime. Uh,

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't out in the world making a name for myself.

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I sat at home for six months and learned those

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>songs which I was already learning. It wasn't like I

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>um had forced myself to like something what a perfect

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:58.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that I was already in the midst of learning

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>these songs on my own, just as a listener. And

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it it was like at a certain point in my

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>career where where you'd think that I'd be done learning,

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like going to school for the first time again.

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>And that was really good for me to not feel

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>as if, well, this is your life, John, you spend

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you you just basically play your own music till you die.

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that doesn't excite me. It will maybe at some

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>point when I'm like, look, I got a wife and kids.

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily want to reinvent the wheel. But it

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>brought so much more complexity to the life of a

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>guy like me who craves complexity and gets not bored

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 1>but complacent really quickly. It was like a whole new

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>world that I could discover, and every day was exciting,

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and it still is with those guys, it's incredibly exciting.

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're here. I'm glad this all worked out

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>where he could come in the day I came back

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>from the show, I was like, man, you know, some

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of this record sounds like music that we would play,

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, in this format. And I went and listen.

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not always the most popular guy traditionally in this format,

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 1>just because I do things at lets out of the box,

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, man, some of this record, A

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>couple of songs on there, um in the blood, they're

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 1>rolling on, rolling on home for sure. I was like,

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what it is, even more traditional than

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>some of the things being played now. Um. And so

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, why aren't we playing it? And

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>so I played it and get screamed at, and you know,

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. But now there we come full circle

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and you've had a little time and some other stations

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and other people have played it, and I think it's

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>been embraced really well by people outside and with you

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to thank for it. Let me ask you a question.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 1>If you had played that song in the Blood without

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>telling people that it was me, would they have objected? Now?

0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But this is the truth. Almost nobody, I say almost, man,

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Almost nobody objected that listen anyway. The only people that

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>objected were radio people. No listeners are like, this song

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>is not country, the song is not anything. They were like, wow,

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a fantastic song, or wow, I love John Marry,

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>but we don't play John Marry. That's what they're saying.

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what it was, just the thing from the inside.

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't people that wouldn't embrace it, that listen to

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>consume it. And that's the weird part. I try to

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>be a person of the people more so than a

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>person in the industry. I get you and then that, well,

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that's why I feels so good. Like you said outside

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of the box to give a sense of how different

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the world is. I haven't heard the phrase outside of

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the box. No offense to you. I haven't heard the

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>phrase outside of the box in ten years. Everything is

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>outside of the box every possible, Like there's no box anymore.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, and I think what you're saying is there's

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a box here, Well, there's a box here to box here,

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, people have vested interest in keeping

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the box taped up shut you know. And I think

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting to say the least, that you're looking

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 1>at it going well, why do you have to keep

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the box closed? Um? And that just goes to show

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>you there's there's like when's the last time someone asked

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you what's on your iPod? Once the last time someone

0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>said like, what genre of music do you like? It's

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>all completely disassembled and uh, you know, thank you for

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>being a champion of stuff that's cool and fits and

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>saying like, well, whatever your notion is of it, you know,

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>let's try not putting that, you know, as a barrier

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>in front of the song. You know, it's not not country,

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It's true, you know what I mean? Down in Livingston, Montana.

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I live in Livingston, Montana. That's pretty country. That's pretty western.

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:35.399
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty western. So a body in my backyard, hey

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>do you want to? Amy gave him this picture in

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and an old six shooter buried in

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the ground. For my birthday, Amy painted this for me

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago ago? Did you only have like

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 1>one tattoo here? A long time ago? And then I

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 1>started doing silly stuff and say this is you don't

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 1>get to keep it. I'm a fan of Yeah, she

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>painted it for me, So if you wouldn't mind signing that,

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I would love to. I'mna put it back in my

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>room where it has been a gift from her. Yea, yeah,

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like saying, what do you think UM like

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>as an artist? As an artist, I think it's I

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 1>could tell it was me. Yeah, yeah, I want that

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>haircut bag. We're gonna play in the blood Busts. I

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you coming by. I help shore. It was awesome tonight.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you and yours too. I want to know how

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the emoji joke works, and I don't think I'm going

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to do that at the operation giving you my cell

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>phone number, and I want you to I'm like, I

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>have a home number, I'm gonna give you my home

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>office and cell phone number. I'm giving you my cell

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>phone telephone number. I don't want you to tell me

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>how the emoji joke goes, and you can use emojis

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>for it. I will not do that at the operate,

0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm a California show to California this weekend. We're

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>you gonna be in California and so plug it, plug

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it well, trust me, I do enough. But I'll be

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>in Monree a modesto both. But like a lot of

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of TV bookers are coming out to watch

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'm rarely on the West Coast and booking for

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>what for lots of shows night slots? Or would you

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>would you bail on this dump to be on a sitcom?

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Is this what you're saying? I would not bail, but

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>they are coming out. It is kind of a dumpy theories.

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>All right. They're gonna give you cones, are gonna give

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you a reserved spot. You're gonna Lisa Porsche Cayenne. You're

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're gonna live in Studio City. It's gonna be

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 1>great for you. Your shop at Whole Foods. Oh, I see,

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna live the life parked right next to Johnny Galecky.

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be on a You're gonna be on a lot,

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, running to Mario Lopez every damn day and

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>forget about all these losers, aren't you? That's the goal,

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, John Mayre. Thank you, John. Good to see

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you about it than you have you enjoyed this? This,

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>this was You're great. This was great. This is great. Like, no,

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. I wouldn't do that. Um, this

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is like we we had a dinner and work already

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 1>on dessert and I'm like, oh, we didn't even really

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 1>get to it. I agree, we could have spent when

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 1>next time you come to town or I'll come over.

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll come up to Mindanna. I would love to hang

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 1>out with the dog, would love to all right, here

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 1>we go, John Mayor. Everybody all right there It is

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<v Speaker 1>episode seventy five The Bobby Cast thanks to John Mayer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to twitter now at the Bobby Cast. Its

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<v Speaker 1>awesome to hang out with John Mayor for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and just talk. It was really fun. And here's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of in the Blood from John Mayer. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard this song yet, I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it. Check it out. There's in the Blood.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see you next week. How much from my

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<v Speaker 1>father am I destined to become? You're that lesson? Sad

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<v Speaker 1>me just to say it is fast and worm, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not let this woman kill me? A joy with Jennis

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<v Speaker 1>Love You're little watch out and water, see it always in.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't feel about