WEBVTT - Senior Bowl Preview with Jim Nagy (1/17) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.000 The game is over the New York You play to 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:17.599 win the game. He's got a Jet locksdown. Jim. You're 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.000 listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a Jets 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:26.239 three sixty production. What's up, everybody? Thanks for downloading the 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.640 Official Jets podcast. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Gallery have a very 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.000 special show today. Jim Naggy, the executive director of the 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.640 Senior Bowl, will be joining us the Senior Bowl of 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.560 Courses later this week. If you don't know anything about Jim, 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.960 well real quick. He took over as executive director of 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.240 the Senior Bowl in June two thousand eighteen. He spent 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.080 eighteen years in the NFL. He was an area scout. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.559 He was a national scout for four years with the Chiefs. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.400 He was a part of six Super Bowl teams, four 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.480 of which hoisted the Lombardi Trophy, the Packers, the Patriots 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.320 two times, and lastly for the Seattle Seahawks the Sky. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.360 No scouting, you don't get this. You don't get a 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.839 position like that unless you are a well respected person 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.400 within the National Football League. You think about what Phil 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.320 Savage did there for so many years, and I think 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.959 this is a great move for Jim and his family. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.560 He lives down there and Mobile and knows that area, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.000 and he also brings that background of being a longtime 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.240 scout Greens to the process. So he is going to 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.920 think of it in terms of how can I showcase 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:37.520 the prospects and get them acclimated to NFL conditions that 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.920 they will have to prepare for if they're gonna be 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.040 playing on Sundays in the National Football League, and he's 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.440 gonna take them through the entire week. You know, I 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.200 believe you're gonna go down there with our guy Frank Tank. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.840 You'll be covering this for the Jets. I believe you 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.960 guys are going down there on Monday or Tuesday, and 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.720 then practices Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday and Wednesday are the 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.560 big practice days, and then they scale back towards later 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.560 in the week. Know, ultimately, you got your game on Saturday. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.080 But I'm sure Jim is gonna do a tremendous job. 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.519 Jim views this position as a stewardship to the city 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.520 of Mobile. That's what he said, And I think that 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.160 what's really stuck out to me is really how quickly 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.040 he hit the ground running. And we'll talk to him 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.079 about this shortly, but Jim said that he and his 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:25.240 staff of scouts that helped pick the guys to send 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.880 invites to the recent Senior Bowl. They talked to NFL 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.280 teams to see what players they want to see down 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.760 and Mobile because that's that's their customer pretty much. And 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.920 the players are gonna go through a week of what 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.160 it's like to be like in the NFL up to 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.320 the point, up to the detail where they're off day 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:47.280 Friday in this case, the day before the game, schools 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.960 and hospital visits, just like a Tuesday in the NFL 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.400 when players have their off days in the regular season 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:59.960 and they do different community league exactly. So yeah, you're 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.440 he's down to the button because I think it's great 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.960 for all players and not to mention when you look 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.480 at smaller school prospects. I mean last year Nathan Shepherd 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.679 was a Detawol prospect down there. Marcus Davenport was a 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.919 first round pick and at the time he was not 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.120 regarded as one. Will her Nandez, second round pick for 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.120 the Giants, had a great week down there in Mobile. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.800 So the Senior Bowl, while it may not be as 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.600 it doesn't have the amount of prospects as the combine 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.799 has It's still a very valuable time for both the 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.200 players and the scouts and the team. It's more intimate. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.839 I like it from that perspective. It feels smaller, even 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.200 though a lot of NFL personnel are there. It feels 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.200 a little bit more relaxed than Indianapolis. The Combine is 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:51.280 such a monstrous event as the NFL takes over that city. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.320 Indianapolis got a different field down there, and mobile is 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.640 the NFL offseason really begins in earnest because he kind 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.440 of if you're taking people through the calendar, is that 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.240 Senior Bowl Week is at the same time where some 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.440 of the NFL's bust will be down in Orlando, Florida 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.440 for the Pro Bowl. And then that weekend actually there's 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.720 Jets House in New York City. And then after that 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:24.920 you start looking forward to Indianapolis and the Combine and 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.120 the start of free agency. So this is all gonna 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:32.960 happen really quick. And for you avid listeners, here is 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.720 a green favorite that you're going to have to remember 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.359 in the months ahead. That is Andy Isabella from You Mask. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:47.960 That is an Ethan Greenberg guy. Oh yeah, Green's loves him. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.600 I can tell he's a little bit smaller guy, quick 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.000 and fast as heck is. Jim will tell us about 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.360 so that you mass a minute man, a minute man, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.240 but he probably a guy can run the mile seconds. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.040 All right, we talked about them. But no better person 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.720 to talk to about the Reese's Senior Bowl then the 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:17.080 executive producer of the game. Here's Jim Naggy. All right, Jim, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.640 let's go back to when you took over as the 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.240 executive director of the Senior Bowl. We know you have 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.240 a decorated resume as a scout in the NFL, but 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.320 what appeal to you about this role? Well, yeah, guys, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.920 it Uh, we've we've've lived in Mobile for eleven years, 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.000 so this is this has been home for us. It's 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:41.080 my wife's hometown. We were we're bouncing around the country, um, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.720 with scouting for for a long time, and when we 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.240 started having kids, it got to be a lot. So 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.320 we really wanted to get closer to family. So we've 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.320 been in Mobile and then, uh, this game has has 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.840 meant a lot. You know, it really means a lot 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.559 to the city of Obi Hill and Mobile. Baldwin County 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.920 is down here, you know, seventieth annual game this year, 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.120 So really when the out when the when the job 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.680 came up after the draft last year, it was an 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.800 opportunity for me to just a quality of life move. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.799 You know, the NFL scouting thing is is really a grind. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.720 You're on the road more than half the year, um, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.880 and it's a challenging profession when you're single with no kids, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.880 and it takes on a lot of different uh impactually 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.560 a lot when you when he's got a family and 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.760 my son is going to be high school age now 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.400 and he's playing high school sports, and I just started 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.520 to miss all the good stuff. So when this, when 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.640 this came open, I really, um phil compelled to jump 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.880 at it. And you know when I called the Seahawks, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.160 you know, John Schneider r GM was great about it. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.160 We were really good friends, and he's great with my family. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.520 And I said, John, you know, if I'm not there, guy, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.440 I can live with that. But you know, I don't 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.800 want to be sixty seven years old and look back 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.800 on two doves in an eighteen where I had a 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.800 chance to maybe change um you know, changing circumstance for 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.280 my family and and and not do it. So I 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.680 just went for it, and thankfully things worked out well. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.200 The reesea Senior Ball, as you know, Jim, the pre 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.440 eminent college all star game for the past sixty eight years. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.320 And I know your staff is striving to improve the 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.440 event for the National Football League. So what were your 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.880 first steps once you took over this new position. Yeah, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.640 we you know, we first thing locally, we we created 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.880 a thing called the Senior Bowl and Bassador Club. So 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.800 we've got a really rich history down here, um football 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.160 history down here. And I wanted to create a create 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.840 a group for for all the former players, for all 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.320 the former NFL guys that are that are from Mobile 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.360 and Baldwin Counties down here, and and a lot of 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.680 them that have played in our game. I mean, just 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.280 and just create a group, um, you know, where guys 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.880 could give back to the community, create a brotherhood for them. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.680 So that was really the first thing I did. We've 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.520 got fifty eight guys signed up right now, Like right now, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.280 Mobile's got sixteen players Mobile and Baldin County of sixteen 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.160 active players in the NFL between our two little counties, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.000 and uh, that's third most of any community in the 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.040 United States. So Miami's got twenty four, Houston's got twenty, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.320 We've got sixteen, So um per capital, that's pretty amazing. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.840 So I wanted to do that, which we did. And 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.600 then really on the football side of things, Um, you know, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.280 I hired hired a scouting staff made up of all 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.280 former NFL scouts, guys that I've worked with that got 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.040 let go in last year's you know kind of hiring 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.560 firing cycle. And uh, you know, again, you work in football, 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.280 You're gonna lose your job at some point, and you 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.840 get caught in the crosshairs, you know, and in a 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.880 regime change or whatnot. You know, a new GM comes in. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.480 You're not You're not a quote unquote his guy. Um so, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.160 so guys don't get let go. So yeah, I hired 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.360 four guys to help me cover the country geographically. It 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.040 worked out perfectly this year. Um so we scouted it up. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.559 I had the Southeast and we we we cut it 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.440 up in the in the fifth and cover the country. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.600 Had a couple of scouting assistants here in in house, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.520 and then uh, you know, just hit it really hard 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.320 trying to make this thing like the thirty third personnel department, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.400 and uh, I really just tried to revamp um the 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.959 way we we did our scouting and handled the football 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.600 aspect of the busines. How do you feel like you're 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.079 what you just mentioned is going to help the game 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.280 itself and help the players that accept invites to the game. Well, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.880 it's it's really gonna help our rosters, right, So we 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.760 you know, we UM, you know, having an experienced group 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.240 of guys that know what they're looking at. And you know, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.880 the hard part for us is we don't have a 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.000 budget like an NFL team. You know, we don't have 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.760 a we don't have a billion dollar owner. UM, so 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.199 what we can't do we you know, our scouts. We 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:28.800 don't have the budget for guys to be on the 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.640 road all the time, you know, taking flights and staying 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.520 in hotels. So we really needed a really connected, h 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.160 network of guys that have been in the league forever. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.160 So the four guys that sixty nine years of experience, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.880 So whether that's connected to the school and having and 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.040 you know, networks with all the schools have been too 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.200 into in the past, or network of other scouts UH 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.400 to reach out to and find out about small school 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.079 players that you know, maybe slipped through our cracks. It 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.360 was really important to UH to bring that group together 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.360 and again, UM you know, I might have to staff 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.880 that on a yearly basis just because guys will you know, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.280 obviously want to jump back into the league when they can, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.160 so it might be an ever changing process for us. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.840 But really it really worked out great. You know. One 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.599 of the last phases of our was of our of 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.199 our process was once we had our board created and 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.079 built and we felt good about it, you know, in 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.719 all the games and and tape we've seen, we uh, 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.160 the week of Thanksgiving, got got together with seventeen NFL 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.760 teams and got on the phone with either college directors 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.040 or general managers or sometimes both of them were on 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.400 the call, and you know, guys that had access to 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.880 their entire board and all their grades, and we just 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.040 kind of we went through the board and okay, at 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.640 that point, I've invited sixty players, went through that group 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.480 and made sure those guys were okay with the first sixty, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.959 and then we had you know, we had about another 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.520 thirty year marked of of guys we really wanted to 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.880 invite based off the way we saw things, um, and 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.160 then we worked the cut line at every position, you know, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.280 so there's for for example, if there was three spots 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.240 on the defensive line, and we had about nine names. Okay, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.439 you know, going through the teams, which of these nine, like, 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.160 who would you want to see in those three spots? 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.559 And we just took detailed notes and you know, these 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.760 rosters are for them. We're we're building these these rosters 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.240 for the thirty two teams who are really really wanted 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.000 to use their input, um and UM. So that was 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.640 kind of the last last step of the process. But 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.400 it's been great, you know, I mean, it's it's been exciting. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.319 That was really the most rewarding part personally for me 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.439 is just to see all that hard work our football 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.880 staff did, UM and building that board and how much 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.160 we were aligned with the with the thirty two teams. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.360 There really wasn't a lot of variants. We saw things 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.040 very much the same UM. So it really was a 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.400 reason it was really an easy roster build this year. Jim, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.360 you spent eighteen years in National Football League areas scout 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.760 all over the place, like you mentioned, the West, the Midwest, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.880 the Southeast. You were a national scout for the Kansas 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.280 City Chiefs. How much did you enjoy coming to Mobile 0:11:56.160 --> 0:12:00.199 as a scout and being able to watch all these 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.640 different players from different conferences from big schools, from smaller 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.080 schools out there on the field getting coached up by 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:14.960 NFL staffs for the first time, and hopefully, uh later 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.000 on they'll be able to benefit from those experiences as 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.360 professionals if they ultimately become NFL players. But also that 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:27.839 opportunity to sit down with the guys at night and 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.240 interview them. Yeah, you guys, it was a critical week. Um. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.599 It really is a critical part of the process. You know, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.480 working in the league, you always saw this week as 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.600 the kind of the unofficial kickoff to the draft. Um 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.040 draft process for the This is kind of the first 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.839 phase All Star Games and then you know, combined and 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.559 then Pro Days and then and then Draft Day. So, no, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.640 it was. It was a big week. It's great to see, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.640 you know, it's great for the smaller school guys to 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.280 kind of see them up on a on a big 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.199 stage against the big boys. That's always big, you know, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.440 just to see the competitive nature of some of these players. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.319 See it comes out in the practice field, being able 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.960 to get down right there at field level. Um. See 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.800 some of the drills, really, some of the one on 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.559 one stuff is really valued heavily in the NFL. The 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.480 old line, d line, and the corner wide out one 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.440 on one periods. Linebacker running backs are are huge. And again, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.760 like you talked about the interview processes is uh plays 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.880 a big part of it too. So you finally you 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.520 get to go into the schools in the fall and 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.360 you get a lot of the feedback from everyone in 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.400 the building, you know, coaches and support staff, and you 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.080 really try to figure these players out. But the All 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.720 Star Game is really that the first time you can 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.600 get your hands on them yourself as as an NFL club, 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.480 So that starts the process of trying to you know, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.480 create those relationships, getting to see what makes these guys tick, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.199 where they came from, UM, get all those questions answered. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.400 So it's a it's an absolutely huge week. And again 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.079 coming to Mobile was great because, uh, it is a 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.400 smaller town. It's got a it's got a smaller town 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.560 vibe to it. It's not like the Combine where where 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.760 it's Indianapolis and it's crazy and you know how big city. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.800 This is a little more flower paste, a little more relaxed. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.400 The interview process was easier for the players. Um, just 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.280 because it's not uh, you know, in any it can 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.640 be a little more pressure packed or is here it's 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.719 it's more relaxed. So it's just a great deal. You know, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.880 all the scouts love coming down here, and the coaches 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.320 love coming down here because they're they're all creatures. The 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.480 habit they you know, they go to the same restaurants, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.360 in the same bars, and um it's to walk uple downtown. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.800 So once they get down here to their hotels, they can, uh, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.520 you know, they can just enjoy themselves. So it really 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.760 was a week that everyone looked forward to. Before I 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.080 Ethan asked his next question, I just wanted to ask, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.640 what are you you are living down there in Mobile? 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.360 Top three restaurants that you have to go to. For 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.640 any NFL personnel who are going down there when they 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.000 get a chance, maybe away from practice or away from 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.800 a meeting or away from an interview, where do you 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.040 gotta eat? Well, I will I don't want to offend 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.440 anyone down here because I'm I'm friends with a lot 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.480 of these restaurant tours now, but I will say, if 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.920 you know, the Mobile Bay separates um Mobile and Baldwin County, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.800 So we're right on the water down here and on 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.560 the causeway crossing over the bay, there's there's a lot 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.520 of great seafood spots, um, so whether it's uh gosh, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.720 there's the Original Oyster House, and there's the Blue Gill, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.240 and there's Ads and there's felix Is. I mean, all 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.680 those places have great seafood, you know, fresh out of 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.320 the golf And that's what I know, that's what most 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.120 guys in the league look forward to, just come down 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.040 here and get some shrimp and some gumble. Uh. You know, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.600 we got that creole flavor down here, um, and I 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.440 know guys love love to come down there and get 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.440 that stuff, all right, Jenn, Before we dive into the players, 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.320 I just want to ask one more thing. As a 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.800 longtime scout, what are the benefits of going down there, 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.320 whether you're scout for a team whatever, Royal Area Scout, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.000 National Scout, whatever, what are the benefits of being able 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.480 to have this early access to the players. And then 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.760 from the player's perspective, how helpful is the Senior Bowl Week? 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.000 Because from everything I've read, you really trying to emulate 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.920 an NFL week even up to their off day which 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.360 is on Friday during Senior Bowl Week and making hospital 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.200 visits and local school visits. So how helpful is it 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.200 for both the player and the scout. Yeah, we talked 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.520 about it's it's huge for the scouts because you really 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.400 it's it's your first opportunity to try to figure out 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.080 the players. Right. So, um, the longer you scout, I 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.520 mean really watching the tape and and figuring out the 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.720 player to me was the easier part. The harder part 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.240 is figuring out the person. And you know where they 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.280 came from, and you know how much do they really 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.120 love football and everything that goes into it in the 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.440 grind of it? And um, you know, how how are 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.680 they wired? How will money affect them? You know, is 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.200 that going to change how they approach things? And just 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.360 to you know, in that week, I mean you see 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.880 these guys at the hotel and how they interact with 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.520 their coaches and just to you know, over that week 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.560 you really get a glimpse and how these guys handle 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.760 the business. Do they show up for your schedule meeting 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.040 on time? You know, how do they dress? How do 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.120 they you know when they're walking around the hotel, how 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.720 do they carry themselves? Um, so all that stuff plays 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.600 a big part. It's really you know, you you go 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.399 to the combine, you might get them for fifteen minutes, 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.760 you know, and then again it's such a they're they're 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:19.159 so busy there with medicals and psychological tests. Um. You know, 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.480 you you just get your hands more on them here, 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.879 if that makes sense. Um. So that that that's a 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.080 critical part. And they're getting all they on the field stuff. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.840 Seeing how they're taking coaching during practice. You know you 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.320 could you're right there at field level. You hear the 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.919 coaching points the coaches are trying to make, and then 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.840 you can see how they take the coaching, how they 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.040 apply the coaching, so you can really get it in 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.040 clued in on a guy's learning ability, um, his ability 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.240 to translate coaching. So, I mean, all those little things 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.320 make a big difference. Um. You know, it's the first 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.119 time you really get to see their body type. It 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.600 weigh in. So you know, you go out to practice, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.040 when you go into the school and you see what 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.240 they look like in their paths, but you know, going 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:56.960 to the way and you really get a better field 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.920 for body composition and um. Again, a lot of guys 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.560 work ethics shows up in their body right. We're all 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.879 we all have different genetics, but certain guys, look, you know, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.520 you can tell who's worked and who hasn't um those 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.440 ways to to to a great degree. And then for 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.719 the players, um, it's hugely it's critical for them. I mean, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.800 one they've earned it. It's a great opportunity for them. Um. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.119 I think that if you asked all these guys when 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.159 they were coming out of high school, is you know, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.119 three or four or five star guys that hey, in 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.080 four years, we we promise you that you know, you've 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.600 got a senior boy invite weight And I think every 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.920 single one of those kids would take it. Um. So 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.040 that's why to me now sitting in this chair, it's 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.840 interesting where guys would would back out at this point 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.680 and not you know, not not embraced the the opportunity 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.480 they have because you know, to be coached by two staffs, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:45.920 I mean, just to impress those two teams alone. I 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.200 know that if you go back and look at teams 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.240 that have coached in this game and the correlation of 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.359 the amount of picks they've used on the players have 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.720 actually coached your mobile, it's it's pretty amazing because they do. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.040 They get that, they get a real view of the player, 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.960 what he's like in the meeting room, how he learned, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.240 and you know, they feel like they've got a really 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.879 really good end you know inside look at these players. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.280 So yeah, for them, it's it's a it's a huge week. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.680 At first, it shows their competitive It shows like that 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.720 they're the innate competitiveness of a guy, which is important 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.360 because you know, especially coming up on that second contract. Again, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.520 like we talked about the money part of it. If 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.960 you're even a you know, second third round pick, you're 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.280 not making money is going to set you up for 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.840 your whole life. I mean, that's coming on the second contract. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.560 So you know, I mean, guys want to know who 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.680 are the real competitors because it's not gonna matter once 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.120 they make that big second contract if they really love 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.520 it and really competitive. So I think showing up down 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.800 here shows the NFL teams that how innately competitive these 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.719 guys are. And then just from a you know, if 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.320 you just look at from the process, like I talked 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.760 about the interviews, coming down here and getting a lot 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.480 of these interviews out of the way, it's huge for them. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.680 It clears there played it for the combine. And also 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.560 we started doing psychological testing down here a few years ago, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.840 which knocks a bunch of that off their plates. So 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.160 when they go to so really it makes the combine 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.399 to much easier process as well. Not only do they 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.320