1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The game is over the New York You play to 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: win the game. He's got a Jet locksdown. Jim. You're 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a Jets 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: three sixty production. What's up, everybody? Thanks for downloading the 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Official Jets podcast. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Gallery have a very 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: special show today. Jim Naggy, the executive director of the 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, will be joining us the Senior Bowl of 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Courses later this week. If you don't know anything about Jim, 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: well real quick. He took over as executive director of 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl in June two thousand eighteen. He spent 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: eighteen years in the NFL. He was an area scout. 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: He was a national scout for four years with the Chiefs. 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: He was a part of six Super Bowl teams, four 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: of which hoisted the Lombardi Trophy, the Packers, the Patriots 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: two times, and lastly for the Seattle Seahawks the Sky. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: No scouting, you don't get this. You don't get a 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: position like that unless you are a well respected person 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: within the National Football League. You think about what Phil 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Savage did there for so many years, and I think 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: this is a great move for Jim and his family. 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: He lives down there and Mobile and knows that area, 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: and he also brings that background of being a longtime 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: scout Greens to the process. So he is going to 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: think of it in terms of how can I showcase 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: the prospects and get them acclimated to NFL conditions that 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: they will have to prepare for if they're gonna be 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: playing on Sundays in the National Football League, and he's 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna take them through the entire week. You know, I 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: believe you're gonna go down there with our guy Frank Tank. 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: You'll be covering this for the Jets. I believe you 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: guys are going down there on Monday or Tuesday, and 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: then practices Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday and Wednesday are the 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: big practice days, and then they scale back towards later 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: in the week. Know, ultimately, you got your game on Saturday. 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: But I'm sure Jim is gonna do a tremendous job. 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: Jim views this position as a stewardship to the city 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: of Mobile. That's what he said, And I think that 38 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: what's really stuck out to me is really how quickly 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: he hit the ground running. And we'll talk to him 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: about this shortly, but Jim said that he and his 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: staff of scouts that helped pick the guys to send 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: invites to the recent Senior Bowl. They talked to NFL 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: teams to see what players they want to see down 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: and Mobile because that's that's their customer pretty much. And 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: the players are gonna go through a week of what 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: it's like to be like in the NFL up to 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: the point, up to the detail where they're off day 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Friday in this case, the day before the game, schools 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: and hospital visits, just like a Tuesday in the NFL 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: when players have their off days in the regular season 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: and they do different community league exactly. So yeah, you're 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: he's down to the button because I think it's great 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: for all players and not to mention when you look 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: at smaller school prospects. I mean last year Nathan Shepherd 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: was a Detawol prospect down there. Marcus Davenport was a 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: first round pick and at the time he was not 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: regarded as one. Will her Nandez, second round pick for 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: the Giants, had a great week down there in Mobile. 59 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: So the Senior Bowl, while it may not be as 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the amount of prospects as the combine 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: has It's still a very valuable time for both the 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: players and the scouts and the team. It's more intimate. 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: I like it from that perspective. It feels smaller, even 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: though a lot of NFL personnel are there. It feels 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more relaxed than Indianapolis. The Combine is 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: such a monstrous event as the NFL takes over that city. 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Indianapolis got a different field down there, and mobile is 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the NFL offseason really begins in earnest because he kind 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: of if you're taking people through the calendar, is that 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Week is at the same time where some 71 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: of the NFL's bust will be down in Orlando, Florida 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: for the Pro Bowl. And then that weekend actually there's 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Jets House in New York City. And then after that 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: you start looking forward to Indianapolis and the Combine and 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: the start of free agency. So this is all gonna 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: happen really quick. And for you avid listeners, here is 77 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: a green favorite that you're going to have to remember 78 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: in the months ahead. That is Andy Isabella from You Mask. 79 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: That is an Ethan Greenberg guy. Oh yeah, Green's loves him. 80 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: I can tell he's a little bit smaller guy, quick 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: and fast as heck is. Jim will tell us about 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: so that you mass a minute man, a minute man, 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: but he probably a guy can run the mile seconds. 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: All right, we talked about them. But no better person 85 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: to talk to about the Reese's Senior Bowl then the 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: executive producer of the game. Here's Jim Naggy. All right, Jim, 87 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: let's go back to when you took over as the 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: executive director of the Senior Bowl. We know you have 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: a decorated resume as a scout in the NFL, but 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: what appeal to you about this role? Well, yeah, guys, 91 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: it Uh, we've we've've lived in Mobile for eleven years, 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: so this is this has been home for us. It's 93 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: my wife's hometown. We were we're bouncing around the country, um, 94 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: with scouting for for a long time, and when we 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: started having kids, it got to be a lot. So 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: we really wanted to get closer to family. So we've 97 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: been in Mobile and then, uh, this game has has 98 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: meant a lot. You know, it really means a lot 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: to the city of Obi Hill and Mobile. Baldwin County 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: is down here, you know, seventieth annual game this year, 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: So really when the out when the when the job 102 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: came up after the draft last year, it was an 103 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: opportunity for me to just a quality of life move. 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: You know, the NFL scouting thing is is really a grind. 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: You're on the road more than half the year, um, 106 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: and it's a challenging profession when you're single with no kids, 107 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and it takes on a lot of different uh impactually 108 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: a lot when you when he's got a family and 109 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: my son is going to be high school age now 110 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and he's playing high school sports, and I just started 111 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: to miss all the good stuff. So when this, when 112 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: this came open, I really, um phil compelled to jump 113 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: at it. And you know when I called the Seahawks, 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, John Schneider r GM was great about it. 115 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: We were really good friends, and he's great with my family. 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: And I said, John, you know, if I'm not there, guy, 117 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: I can live with that. But you know, I don't 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: want to be sixty seven years old and look back 119 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: on two doves in an eighteen where I had a 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: chance to maybe change um you know, changing circumstance for 121 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: my family and and and not do it. So I 122 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: just went for it, and thankfully things worked out well. 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: The reesea Senior Ball, as you know, Jim, the pre 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: eminent college all star game for the past sixty eight years. 125 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: And I know your staff is striving to improve the 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: event for the National Football League. So what were your 127 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: first steps once you took over this new position. Yeah, 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: we you know, we first thing locally, we we created 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: a thing called the Senior Bowl and Bassador Club. So 130 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: we've got a really rich history down here, um football 131 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: history down here. And I wanted to create a create 132 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: a group for for all the former players, for all 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: the former NFL guys that are that are from Mobile 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: and Baldwin Counties down here, and and a lot of 135 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: them that have played in our game. I mean, just 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and just create a group, um, you know, where guys 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: could give back to the community, create a brotherhood for them. 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: So that was really the first thing I did. We've 139 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: got fifty eight guys signed up right now, Like right now, 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Mobile's got sixteen players Mobile and Baldin County of sixteen 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: active players in the NFL between our two little counties, 142 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: and uh, that's third most of any community in the 143 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: United States. So Miami's got twenty four, Houston's got twenty, 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: We've got sixteen, So um per capital, that's pretty amazing. 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: So I wanted to do that, which we did. And 146 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: then really on the football side of things, Um, you know, 147 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: I hired hired a scouting staff made up of all 148 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: former NFL scouts, guys that I've worked with that got 149 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: let go in last year's you know kind of hiring 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: firing cycle. And uh, you know, again, you work in football, 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose your job at some point, and you 152 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: get caught in the crosshairs, you know, and in a 153 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: regime change or whatnot. You know, a new GM comes in. 154 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: You're not You're not a quote unquote his guy. Um so, 155 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: so guys don't get let go. So yeah, I hired 156 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: four guys to help me cover the country geographically. It 157 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: worked out perfectly this year. Um so we scouted it up. 158 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: I had the Southeast and we we we cut it 159 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: up in the in the fifth and cover the country. 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Had a couple of scouting assistants here in in house, 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, just hit it really hard 162 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to make this thing like the thirty third personnel department, 163 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: and uh, I really just tried to revamp um the 164 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: way we we did our scouting and handled the football 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: aspect of the busines. How do you feel like you're 166 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: what you just mentioned is going to help the game 167 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: itself and help the players that accept invites to the game. Well, 168 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: it's it's really gonna help our rosters, right, So we 169 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, we UM, you know, having an experienced group 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: of guys that know what they're looking at. And you know, 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: the hard part for us is we don't have a 172 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: budget like an NFL team. You know, we don't have 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: a we don't have a billion dollar owner. UM, so 174 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: what we can't do we you know, our scouts. We 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: don't have the budget for guys to be on the 176 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: road all the time, you know, taking flights and staying 177 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: in hotels. So we really needed a really connected, h 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: network of guys that have been in the league forever. 179 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: So the four guys that sixty nine years of experience, 180 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: So whether that's connected to the school and having and 181 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, networks with all the schools have been too 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: into in the past, or network of other scouts UH 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: to reach out to and find out about small school 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: players that you know, maybe slipped through our cracks. It 185 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: was really important to UH to bring that group together 186 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: and again, UM you know, I might have to staff 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: that on a yearly basis just because guys will you know, 188 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: obviously want to jump back into the league when they can, 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: so it might be an ever changing process for us. 190 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: But really it really worked out great. You know. One 191 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: of the last phases of our was of our of 192 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: our process was once we had our board created and 193 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: built and we felt good about it, you know, in 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: all the games and and tape we've seen, we uh, 195 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: the week of Thanksgiving, got got together with seventeen NFL 196 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: teams and got on the phone with either college directors 197 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: or general managers or sometimes both of them were on 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: the call, and you know, guys that had access to 199 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: their entire board and all their grades, and we just 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: kind of we went through the board and okay, at 201 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: that point, I've invited sixty players, went through that group 202 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: and made sure those guys were okay with the first sixty, 203 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: and then we had you know, we had about another 204 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: thirty year marked of of guys we really wanted to 205 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: invite based off the way we saw things, um, and 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: then we worked the cut line at every position, you know, 207 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: so there's for for example, if there was three spots 208 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: on the defensive line, and we had about nine names. Okay, 209 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: you know, going through the teams, which of these nine, like, 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: who would you want to see in those three spots? 211 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: And we just took detailed notes and you know, these 212 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: rosters are for them. We're we're building these these rosters 213 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: for the thirty two teams who are really really wanted 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: to use their input, um and UM. So that was 215 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of the last last step of the process. But 216 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: it's been great, you know, I mean, it's it's been exciting. 217 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: That was really the most rewarding part personally for me 218 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: is just to see all that hard work our football 219 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: staff did, UM and building that board and how much 220 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: we were aligned with the with the thirty two teams. 221 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: There really wasn't a lot of variants. We saw things 222 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: very much the same UM. So it really was a 223 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: reason it was really an easy roster build this year. Jim, 224 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: you spent eighteen years in National Football League areas scout 225 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: all over the place, like you mentioned, the West, the Midwest, 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: the Southeast. You were a national scout for the Kansas 227 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. How much did you enjoy coming to Mobile 228 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: as a scout and being able to watch all these 229 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: different players from different conferences from big schools, from smaller 230 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: schools out there on the field getting coached up by 231 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: NFL staffs for the first time, and hopefully, uh later 232 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: on they'll be able to benefit from those experiences as 233 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: professionals if they ultimately become NFL players. But also that 234 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with the guys at night and 235 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: interview them. Yeah, you guys, it was a critical week. Um. 236 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: It really is a critical part of the process. You know, 237 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: working in the league, you always saw this week as 238 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: the kind of the unofficial kickoff to the draft. Um 239 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: draft process for the This is kind of the first 240 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: phase All Star Games and then you know, combined and 241 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: then Pro Days and then and then Draft Day. So, no, 242 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a big week. It's great to see, 243 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's great for the smaller school guys to 244 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of see them up on a on a big 245 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: stage against the big boys. That's always big, you know, 246 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: just to see the competitive nature of some of these players. 247 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: See it comes out in the practice field, being able 248 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: to get down right there at field level. Um. See 249 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: some of the drills, really, some of the one on 250 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: one stuff is really valued heavily in the NFL. The 251 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: old line, d line, and the corner wide out one 252 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: on one periods. Linebacker running backs are are huge. And again, 253 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: like you talked about the interview processes is uh plays 254 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: a big part of it too. So you finally you 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: get to go into the schools in the fall and 256 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: you get a lot of the feedback from everyone in 257 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: the building, you know, coaches and support staff, and you 258 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: really try to figure these players out. But the All 259 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Star Game is really that the first time you can 260 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: get your hands on them yourself as as an NFL club, 261 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: So that starts the process of trying to you know, 262 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: create those relationships, getting to see what makes these guys tick, 263 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: where they came from, UM, get all those questions answered. 264 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: So it's a it's an absolutely huge week. And again 265 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: coming to Mobile was great because, uh, it is a 266 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: smaller town. It's got a it's got a smaller town 267 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: vibe to it. It's not like the Combine where where 268 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: it's Indianapolis and it's crazy and you know how big city. 269 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: This is a little more flower paste, a little more relaxed. 270 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: The interview process was easier for the players. Um, just 271 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: because it's not uh, you know, in any it can 272 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: be a little more pressure packed or is here it's 273 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: it's more relaxed. So it's just a great deal. You know, 274 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: all the scouts love coming down here, and the coaches 275 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: love coming down here because they're they're all creatures. The 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: habit they you know, they go to the same restaurants, 277 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: in the same bars, and um it's to walk uple downtown. 278 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: So once they get down here to their hotels, they can, uh, 279 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, they can just enjoy themselves. So it really 280 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: was a week that everyone looked forward to. Before I 281 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Ethan asked his next question, I just wanted to ask, 282 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: what are you you are living down there in Mobile? 283 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Top three restaurants that you have to go to. For 284 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: any NFL personnel who are going down there when they 285 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: get a chance, maybe away from practice or away from 286 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: a meeting or away from an interview, where do you 287 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: gotta eat? Well, I will I don't want to offend 288 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: anyone down here because I'm I'm friends with a lot 289 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: of these restaurant tours now, but I will say, if 290 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Mobile Bay separates um Mobile and Baldwin County, 291 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: So we're right on the water down here and on 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: the causeway crossing over the bay, there's there's a lot 293 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: of great seafood spots, um, so whether it's uh gosh, 294 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: there's the Original Oyster House, and there's the Blue Gill, 295 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: and there's Ads and there's felix Is. I mean, all 296 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: those places have great seafood, you know, fresh out of 297 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: the golf And that's what I know, that's what most 298 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: guys in the league look forward to, just come down 299 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: here and get some shrimp and some gumble. Uh. You know, 300 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: we got that creole flavor down here, um, and I 301 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: know guys love love to come down there and get 302 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: that stuff, all right, Jenn, Before we dive into the players, 303 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: I just want to ask one more thing. As a 304 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: longtime scout, what are the benefits of going down there, 305 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: whether you're scout for a team whatever, Royal Area Scout, 306 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: National Scout, whatever, what are the benefits of being able 307 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: to have this early access to the players. And then 308 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: from the player's perspective, how helpful is the Senior Bowl Week? 309 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: Because from everything I've read, you really trying to emulate 310 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: an NFL week even up to their off day which 311 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: is on Friday during Senior Bowl Week and making hospital 312 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: visits and local school visits. So how helpful is it 313 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: for both the player and the scout. Yeah, we talked 314 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: about it's it's huge for the scouts because you really 315 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: it's it's your first opportunity to try to figure out 316 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the players. Right. So, um, the longer you scout, I 317 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: mean really watching the tape and and figuring out the 318 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: player to me was the easier part. The harder part 319 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: is figuring out the person. And you know where they 320 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: came from, and you know how much do they really 321 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: love football and everything that goes into it in the 322 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: grind of it? And um, you know, how how are 323 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: they wired? How will money affect them? You know, is 324 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: that going to change how they approach things? And just 325 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: to you know, in that week, I mean you see 326 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: these guys at the hotel and how they interact with 327 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: their coaches and just to you know, over that week 328 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: you really get a glimpse and how these guys handle 329 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: the business. Do they show up for your schedule meeting 330 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: on time? You know, how do they dress? How do 331 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: they you know when they're walking around the hotel, how 332 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: do they carry themselves? Um, so all that stuff plays 333 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: a big part. It's really you know, you you go 334 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: to the combine, you might get them for fifteen minutes, 335 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, and then again it's such a they're they're 336 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: so busy there with medicals and psychological tests. Um. You know, 337 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: you you just get your hands more on them here, 338 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Um. So that that that's a 339 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: critical part. And they're getting all they on the field stuff. 340 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Seeing how they're taking coaching during practice. You know you 341 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: could you're right there at field level. You hear the 342 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: coaching points the coaches are trying to make, and then 343 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: you can see how they take the coaching, how they 344 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: apply the coaching, so you can really get it in 345 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: clued in on a guy's learning ability, um, his ability 346 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: to translate coaching. So, I mean, all those little things 347 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: make a big difference. Um. You know, it's the first 348 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: time you really get to see their body type. It 349 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: weigh in. So you know, you go out to practice, 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: when you go into the school and you see what 351 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: they look like in their paths, but you know, going 352 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: to the way and you really get a better field 353 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: for body composition and um. Again, a lot of guys 354 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: work ethics shows up in their body right. We're all 355 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: we all have different genetics, but certain guys, look, you know, 356 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: you can tell who's worked and who hasn't um those 357 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: ways to to to a great degree. And then for 358 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: the players, um, it's hugely it's critical for them. I mean, 359 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: one they've earned it. It's a great opportunity for them. Um. 360 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: I think that if you asked all these guys when 361 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: they were coming out of high school, is you know, 362 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: three or four or five star guys that hey, in 363 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: four years, we we promise you that you know, you've 364 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: got a senior boy invite weight And I think every 365 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: single one of those kids would take it. Um. So 366 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: that's why to me now sitting in this chair, it's 367 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: interesting where guys would would back out at this point 368 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: and not you know, not not embraced the the opportunity 369 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: they have because you know, to be coached by two staffs, 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, just to impress those two teams alone. I 371 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: know that if you go back and look at teams 372 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: that have coached in this game and the correlation of 373 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: the amount of picks they've used on the players have 374 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: actually coached your mobile, it's it's pretty amazing because they do. 375 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: They get that, they get a real view of the player, 376 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: what he's like in the meeting room, how he learned, 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: and you know, they feel like they've got a really 378 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: really good end you know inside look at these players. 379 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, for them, it's it's a it's a huge week. 380 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: At first, it shows their competitive It shows like that 381 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: they're the innate competitiveness of a guy, which is important 382 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: because you know, especially coming up on that second contract. Again, 383 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: like we talked about the money part of it. If 384 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: you're even a you know, second third round pick, you're 385 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: not making money is going to set you up for 386 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: your whole life. I mean, that's coming on the second contract. 387 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, guys want to know who 388 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: are the real competitors because it's not gonna matter once 389 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: they make that big second contract if they really love 390 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: it and really competitive. So I think showing up down 391 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: here shows the NFL teams that how innately competitive these 392 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: guys are. And then just from a you know, if 393 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: you just look at from the process, like I talked 394 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: about the interviews, coming down here and getting a lot 395 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: of these interviews out of the way, it's huge for them. 396 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: It clears there played it for the combine. And also 397 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: we started doing psychological testing down here a few years ago, 398 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: which knocks a bunch of that off their plates. So 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: when they go to so really it makes the combine 400 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: to much easier process as well. Not only do they 401 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: get the benefit of being down here and being around 402 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: the teams and showing what they can do on the field. Um, 403 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: it also clears up and makes that combine week easier 404 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: where they can just really focus on their on field 405 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: drills that week. All right, Jim, let's turn to personnel here. Uh, 406 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are pretty well set at the 407 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: quarterback position. It took Sam Donald, uh with the number 408 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: three overall selection in the two thousand and eighteen draft, 409 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: and he had a fine rookie season, and uh, the 410 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Jets have high hopes for him and what he'll be 411 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: able to do with the new head coach here and 412 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: Adam Gates. But let me ask you about the quarterback 413 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: class there who is heading to Mobile, including Daniel Jones. 414 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: I see a few interesting names there when you look 415 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: at Ryan Finley from Ency State, Well Greer from West Virginia, 416 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: West Virginia of course, Trace McSorley Penn State, Drew Lock Missouri, 417 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Well Greer West Virginia. Uh. Is this the best depth 418 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: that has been there at the quarterback position in a while. Yeah, 419 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: And guys, I've been coming to my twenty three game, 420 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: so and I'm really not trying to say this because 421 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: of the chair I'm sitting in now, but I don't 422 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I can't remember I went back over like the last 423 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: fift Keen rosters, like last year is gonna be pretty 424 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: hard to beat in terms of having elite players. I 425 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: mean you had Baker go one, h Baker Mayfield go one, 426 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen go seven. So obviously last year's group 427 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: was great with two top ten picks, but from top 428 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: to bottom, um from one to eight, I mean, it's 429 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: really incredible, incredible depth. I mean, just going over this 430 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: group with the NFL teams, I mean they're really excited 431 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: about this group. You name most of them and then 432 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: you're throwing Gardner Minshew and um. You know Clayton Thorson 433 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: from Northwestern is another guy that I know. Speaking with 434 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: the Northwestern people last year, he was thinking about coming 435 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: out early. Um, so they were putting out fielders to 436 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: NFL teams about where they thought he might get drafted. Well, 437 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: he ends up blowing his A C L in the 438 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Bowl game last year and coming back. But you know, 439 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: they've done their preliminary work. In the in the building, 440 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: north Western and the ten teams they reached out to 441 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: they had second and third round grades on Clayton. So 442 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a name that people are 443 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: just glossing over with this roster. But um to have 444 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: ten ten second or third round grades a year ago, um, 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: just telling you what the league thinks about him. So yeah, 446 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: I really fired up about that quarterback group. I think 447 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: there's you know, three or four of those guys that 448 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: could get in the first round. And said Ryan Finley. 449 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: Bryan Finley is another guy that, um, you know, people 450 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: aren't talking a lot about. Ryan Finley was the highest 451 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: graded guy by the Combine Scouts last spring headn into 452 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: this year, so um yeah, from top to bottom, it's 453 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: a great group. Yeah. And even we didn't even talk 454 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: about stid Hum either from Auburn, who has h a 455 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: lot of upside. I think, so that's gonna be a 456 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: group to watch, uh for a lot of Scouts in 457 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: attendance there. Donomobile, Jim, I want to ask about this 458 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: pass rush group because I know a lot of Jets 459 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: fans are eager to find someone to get after the quarterback. 460 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: And you look at Montes sweat I think that's someone 461 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of fans somewhat about. So what do 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: you what can you tell fans about Sweat? And then 463 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: who are some of the other guys that you would say, 464 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, don't sleep on this guy. This guy is 465 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna be shooting up maybe in April. Yeah, you know, 466 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Sweats a really intriguing player. He's, uh, he looks like 467 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: a basketball player when you see him, and he's really long. 468 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: He's got an eighty five inch wingspans, so he's got 469 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: that length everyone wants to see what. He's also got 470 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: really heavy hands with that lenk and that that's not 471 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: always the case. So when he brings his hands, he 472 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: can really separate from blocks and get off people. Um, 473 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna run fast. He doesn't always look 474 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: fast because he's so tall. Um, you know, the foot 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: turnover is not like the foot turnover of a you know, 476 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: a smaller guy. So, but he can really cover ground 477 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: with his drides. He's got over twenty you know, he's 478 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: got over twenty sacks the last two years in the SEC. 479 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: So you know, really he's gone against top competition and 480 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: been been a really really productive player. Son Montez is 481 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: definitely you know, in that first round, May uhs an 482 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: edge guy, and I would say, I mean it's a 483 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: really good group from top to bottom. We could sit 484 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: here and you know he goes seven or eight deep 485 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: by that edge group. But the next guy from me, UM, 486 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to bring up as a guy maybe your 487 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: listeners haven't heard a lot about. It's a kid named 488 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson from Louisiana Tech. You know, he ended his 489 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: career at the all time I think he tied end 490 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: up tying Terrell Suck because I believe um to be 491 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: the all time career college fax leader. I think he 492 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: hit in his Bowl game like forty four or something 493 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: for his career. UM pretty amazing. So again he's another 494 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: guy that um, you know, Marcus Davenport came down here. 495 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: So I that yeah, you know Davenport came down here 496 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: is probably an early second round projection, and uh, you know, 497 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: you fast forward to draft day and he had a 498 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: really nice week down here in practice and also in 499 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: the game. He had a strip sack in the game, 500 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: and you know, the same ended up trading up for 501 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: Marcus is like the he was the thirteenth or fourteen 502 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to pick. So Um really helped himself. And I think 503 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: that that Jalen's in that mold and Eland is actually 504 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: a little looser as an athlete. He got a little 505 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: more shake to him. But to get another long bodied guy, um, 506 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: it's explosive off the edge and hard to block. So um. Yeah, 507 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: really talented group. If you know, I, I was so 508 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: consumed with this college stuff this year, I didn't get 509 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of time to really, you know, 510 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: focus on what's going on in the NFL. I don't 511 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: know what the Jets team needs are, but if they 512 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: need pass rushers, they'll be able to They'll be able 513 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: to find some down here. Well, we're taping this here 514 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: as uh Adam mc gaze coming on board here from 515 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, so we want to see what 516 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: defensive system they're running in two thousand nineteen. But hey, 517 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: let me flip the the offensive side of the ball again, 518 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: because the Jets are definitely gonna had some pieces around. 519 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: Sam Donald will have to see where in who starting 520 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: with free agency. But this wide receiver group is also 521 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: intriguing to me. You're talking about a guy like Jalen 522 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Heard who played at Beller who used to be a 523 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: running back of course at Tennessee. Anthony Johnson. Uh, a 524 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: big target out of the University of Buffalo. That's not 525 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: a school that we hear too much out of UM, 526 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: but their football team is really making waves lately. Deebo 527 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: Samuel from South Carolina. I think that guy is a playmaker. 528 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: I think he's like in h Quincy and nowan wall mold. 529 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Uh that he's the guy who made a lot of plays. 530 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: Then unfortunately had the injury early on before last season, 531 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: but then he came back and finished the year. And 532 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: then David Sills a productive player out of Western How 533 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: about Andy Isabella out of you match talked about you 534 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: don't hear a lot about Buffalo. I feel like you 535 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: don't hear anything out of you mask. Yeah, yeah, you 536 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: mean you hit a lot on a lot of this 537 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: big names. Um. Is it just I mean, let's speak 538 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: to Isabella really quick. I mean, he's a guy that 539 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's an underseta. You know, he's 540 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: a shorter white guy. So everyone's gonna everyone's gonna say, oh, 541 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: just pitching home him as a little Patriot slop player. 542 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: But he's uh, he's not at he's not you know, 543 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna think quicker than fast. He's actually way 544 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: faster than quick, and he is quick. But this kid 545 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: can really fly. So um, just for background purposes, and 546 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: he was a high school player in Ohio, ran track, 547 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: He won a hundred meters in the state of Ohio. 548 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: Were in a ten which is flying, um for a 549 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: high school kid. And in that same race was Denzel 550 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: Ward from the you know, it was the fourth pick 551 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: last year to the Cleveland Browns and he placed third 552 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: in that same race. So the ten six two. So um. 553 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: You know Denzel ran four three four at the Combine 554 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: last year. If you're just taking those numbers, I mean 555 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella might be a high for two guy. Um. 556 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: So he can fly and uh, really productive. He was 557 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: a really easy guy to invite to this game. I 558 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I drew on like two games and I knew I 559 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: wanted him here. He uh, you know. And then after 560 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: we invited him, he goes down to Georgia late in 561 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: the year and puts two hundred yards up on Georgia. 562 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: So um, really really productive player. He can fly, He's 563 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: good with the ball in his hands. He was a 564 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: high school running back. Um, I think He's gonna be 565 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: a play maker at the next level, really really really exciting. 566 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: We talked about Deebo Samuel at South Carolina. Uh, yeah, 567 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: he he had the injury early last year. He got 568 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: off to a really hot start as a junior and 569 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: probably would have come out as a junior, but then 570 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: I had a bad leg injury. It was a little 571 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: slow coming off that this year, but really late in 572 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: the year. If you look at the Clemson game, I've 573 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of NFL teams reach out to me 574 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: and like, man, have you seen Debos Clemson game? And 575 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: he was he was off the charts. Um, so he 576 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: looks all the way back, which is which is great. 577 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: And then uh, you went down the list and I 578 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: got another guy that pops out of that group for 579 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: me is Jacobe Meyers, who's a junior from North Carolina State. 580 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: So he's a guy we kinda had earmarked off all 581 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: knowing that possibly would come out and you know, he 582 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: can come to our game because he's graduated already. You know, 583 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: we are the Senior Bowl. But they made they had 584 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: a rule change a couple of years ago where juniors 585 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: could come in the game if they had their diplomas 586 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: so um, and that's why kids go to college right 587 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: and go there to get their degree. So why you know, 588 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: why penalized guys if they're if they're juniors, if they've 589 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: already taking care of their school work. And you know, 590 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Jacoby went to m C State as a quarterback. They 591 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: converted into wide out and he's really a natural at 592 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: the position. That's what sticks out when you watch him. 593 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: He's he's got a lot of savvy as a route runner. 594 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: He's long, he's got unbelievable ball skills, and people are 595 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: around him, you know, And that's the thing for college receivers. 596 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: He he spread offenses. A lot of these guys are 597 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: playing pitch and catch and there's a lot of space 598 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: where they catch the football, um, Jacoby, And then they 599 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: get to the pros and they really struggle when those 600 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: windows are tighter. Jacoby is a guy that can really 601 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: make plays with people around him, and so we're excited 602 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: to get Jakobe too. It's it's from top to bottom, 603 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: a really really nice group. Jim. Just one final question 604 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: for you, thank you so much again for joining us here. 605 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the offensive line and who 606 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: are some guys that pop to you and what kind 607 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: of experience do you think this could be for someone 608 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: like Max Sharping who went to Northern Illinois or smaller school. 609 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that that is the kind of person 610 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: the kind of player that could really excel and sho 611 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: up the draft boards because of Senior Bowl week. Yeah, gods, 612 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: this is this group, you know, going over the board 613 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: like we did, like I talked about with the with 614 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: the seventeen teams when I when I did that back 615 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: in November. This was the position group that they were. 616 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: They seemed the most excited about, um, you know, the 617 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: last couple of years, just you know, working in Seattle 618 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: and seeing what our draft board looked like at the 619 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: offensive line position would come draft day. It was it 620 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: was really it was really lean. So, uh, this group 621 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: we're really excited about. We've got both Wisconsin guards are 622 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: coming down, Michael Theater and and our guy bo Ben 623 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Shawell probably gonna butchered that. We'll just we'll just call 624 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: him he goes by he goes by bow bench on 625 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: on his Twitter, So okay, that's easier. And uh, you 626 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: know he got Michael Dieter, who's who's you know? To me, 627 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: he might be a first round pick. Um. And then 628 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: we got the Oklahoma guards. Powers and Samia are both 629 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: good players. Caleb McGarry at Washington UM, and it's just 630 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really really a strong group. A lot 631 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: of these guys can play multiple positions. Um. You know, 632 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: they're smart, they're tough, they've all played a ton of 633 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: football at a high level. Um. A guy that really 634 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: sticks out to me might be might end up being 635 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: the best left tackle in this whole draft, is Andre 636 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Dillard from Washington State. You're not hearing a lot about him. 637 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: You're hearing Joanah Williams name from Alabama quite a bit. Um. 638 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: But Andre Dillard, I've I've spoken to people in the league. 639 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: You put on the tape to watch Gardner Minshew on 640 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback and then you see this guy dancing out 641 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: there at left tackle and you're like, holy cow. I mean, 642 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: he's got great feet and great feeling past protection and 643 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: just can stay in front of people. And that's those 644 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: guys are. Those guys are hard to find. So Andre 645 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: Dillard is a guy that I think will build a 646 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: lot of momentum out of this week. And you talked 647 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: about Max Sharping definitely, Um, you know Mac level player 648 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: and then we those guys always have something to benefit 649 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: and even we've got a guy Titus Howard from up 650 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: the road at Alabama State, which is in uh Montgomery, Alabama, 651 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: a couple of worse from us. And Titus is another 652 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: guy that's got left tackle tools. I mean a lot 653 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: of these college guys that come out, they're really they're 654 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: really right tackles, only at the next level because they 655 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: can't handle that speed off the edge. And Titus is 656 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: a guy that's got the feet and got the athleticism, 657 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and now it's gonna be how does he answer the 658 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: bell on the big stage against the big boys. He 659 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: did it in the one game they played this year 660 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: against Auburn. He played really, really well and that's when 661 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: my phone uh started ringing off the hook with with 662 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: buddies in the league. They're like, wow, have you seen 663 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: this kid from up the road? And thank god I 664 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: had at that point, I didn't. I didn't sound dumb, 665 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: but but Titus really made a name for himself against Auburn. 666 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: And we'll see how he does down here during the week. 667 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: We're excited for him. So yeah, it's it's a it's 668 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: a big week for all these guys. But that's there's 669 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna be some really good matchups in there's one on 670 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: one pass rustrial. Well, you already you got me ready 671 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: for football. I know Jets fans are gonna be here 672 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: to take it all in gym. And congratulations to you 673 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: and your family as he start out your second career. 674 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: We shall day. Yeah, I appreci I appreciate it, guys, 675 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, look forward to having everyone down 676 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: here in Jets fans. Yeah, keep an eye on us. 677 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: We've got the practices on the SPN every day and 678 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: the NFL Network every day and the games on the 679 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: NFL Network. So um. You know people up there that 680 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: can't make the trip downtomobile, they can watch every minute 681 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: of it. Great, thanks Jim. We'll see in mobile alright, guys, 682 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Thank you many thanks to Jim. You can follow him 683 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jim Naggy Underscore s B for Senior Bowl, 684 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: not Super Bowl. I assume so great stuff from Jim. 685 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: You can really tell that he puts a lot of 686 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: thought behind this. And I will say I don't know 687 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: if he's listening right now as we record this, but 688 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank yesterday told 689 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: me to watch Jalen ferguson highlights, because you watch him 690 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: the other day and he said he liked him and 691 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: shown off. Jim Naggie likes him too, just the way 692 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: Jim talked about him, and knowing how pass rushers are 693 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: value National Football League, and I kind of getting the 694 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: feeling that this guy is gonna be a first round pick. 695 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: I could, yeah, I mean for sure, I don't know 696 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: what he's projected now. Davenport, remember we were talking, you 697 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: were down there last year and number he studies rob 698 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: but he's got a great athlete and all this stuff. 699 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Who would have predicted that the New Orleans Saints would 700 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: have traded their own one in two thousand seventeen, I 701 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: mean eighteen and there one this year in order to 702 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: get up Davenport. And they're hoping he can cause some damages. 703 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: He's made some splash plays down there in the big, 704 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: easiest season. Yeah, I like those ends the Saints sends. 705 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: You got Cameron Jordan and then opposite him as the 706 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: young Davenports, So they're happy with him. So yeah, listen, 707 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: over the next a few weeks and then months, we're 708 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna start hearing more about different names. Sure 709 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: for the last whatever twelve last six months, we've heard 710 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: about to Trevor Lawrence and these kids w Lane freshman 711 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: quarterback for Alabama to us, I guess the sophomore, and 712 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: then Lawrence, it's the freshman, and everybody's saying he's gonna 713 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: be the top overall pick in one. Well, tank for 714 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: Trevor has already started on Twitter. Let's just get through 715 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: two first show. We I totally agree, And I thought 716 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: what Jim said about Ryan Finley was extremely interesting, that 717 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: he was the highest rated guy at at the combine 718 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: last year for this upcoming year. And I know that 719 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: last year's quarterback class with Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald 720 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson, I know 721 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: that was a very QB rich class. And I think 722 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: that the discrepancy between last year's class and this year's class, sure, 723 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: there's a discrepancy, but I think Dame Bruegler said it 724 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: best of the athletic I think that it's a little 725 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: over The group right now is undervalued. He believes that 726 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: there are still a lot of quarterbacks that will go 727 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: in the first round and Wayne Haskins going number one overall. 728 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: I think top three. I think top three. I don't 729 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: know about number one overall. Kyler Murray's he'd been drafted 730 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: in the first round grade. There's been a lot of 731 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: steam of this morning about the video. Have you seen 732 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: this video? Yeah, Cliff Kingsbury said, I take of number 733 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: one over Yeah, I know. So he's the number one 734 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: overall pick. I don't know if he's controlling the roster 735 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: there in Arizona just yet, but we'll find out, and 736 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: then it would be crazy. And another name, the guy 737 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: who who I really think you mentioned family, Let's stay 738 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: in acc you're gonna say, Daniel. Yeah, I think he can, 739 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: I can. I think he can really help himself with 740 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: a strong showing it. And so again this is and 741 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm so curious what we would have said this time 742 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: of year last year about the guys that ended up 743 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: going in the first round and whatnot. Like Marcus Davenport, 744 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't think was on anybody's radar, at least from 745 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: a fan perspective. Of course, he was on the radars 746 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: of the scouts and whatnot. But you didn't hear a 747 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: lot about Marcus Davenport, and he didn't hear a lot 748 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: about Will Hernandez. He didn't hear a lot about a 749 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of these guys up until the Senior Bowl. And 750 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: then there's all these late risers from the Senior Bowl 751 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: to the Combine and then the combine of the draft, 752 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: and so this is just the start of the process. 753 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: But Nathan Shepard, yeah, he had a great week in 754 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, well early on and his yea early 755 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: on he really flashed and that helped to stock, no 756 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: doubt about it, and he became third rund pick, and 757 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: then he ends up starting most of the year for 758 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: the Green White. So the Senior Bowl is very helpful 759 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: time of year, especially for teams. Like Jim said, just 760 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: get to know the guys and get to know what 761 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of people the players at they're scouting are. And yeah, 762 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: we'll have to see you at My guy, Andy Isabella, 763 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: he said, faster than quick. Holy crap. He said that 764 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: he ran faster than Denzel Ward in high school and 765 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward three. Yeah, a low for three. So is 766 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: this Isabella, like he said, Jim Nagy, a high for 767 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: two guy, he said, Jim Naggy, if he didn't catch this, 768 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rebring this up because he Canna. All right, 769 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: well Andy Isabella, you mask minute mad all right, well, 770 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: whatever the competition is out there, put up two hundred 771 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: plus yards over on Georgia. Yes he did, and so 772 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: go watch his highlights. They're fun to watch and that's 773 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: the key to the draft. Yeah, you got hit early, 774 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: but what kind of gems are you gonna find in 775 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: the third round. I'm curious to see how he plays. 776 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: And let's see how many draft picks the Jets have 777 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: once they get to April. Right now, it's at number 778 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: three overall selection. That's a good place to be sitting 779 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: at because you have your quarterback and uh, some teams 780 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: are probably gonna acquire uh, depending on the draft falls. 781 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: But teams are gonna call up the Jets. It's gonna happen. 782 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: And we'll have to see how free agency plays out 783 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: and things like that. Right now, the Jets don't have 784 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: any second round picks now they need apples. Trade last 785 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: year was very interesting with the Green and White on 786 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: March seventeenth because the Colts had their quarterback. They go 787 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: back from three to six and they pick up a 788 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: trio a second round picks in the process. So is 789 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: there's something similar out there? For the Jets in April. 790 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: We'll see. I think it's very possible and we shall see. 791 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: But that's all we have here on the official Jets podcast. 792 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: That was again Jim Naggi. Follow him on Twitter at 793 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: Jim Naggy, Underscore, s B and Senior Bowl. Right around 794 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: the corner. Maybe we'll speak to you from mobile