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Speaker 1: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Second Date Updates.

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Speaker 3: What do you do if you're on a date with

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Speaker 3: someone and in the middle you feel like it's going

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Speaker 3: me Nick, do you a order a round of shots

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Speaker 3: to get the party going?

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Speaker 1: You know, it really depends on the establishment.

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Speaker 3: YEA option b fake like you're choking, so she gives

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Speaker 3: you the Heimlick.

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Speaker 4: And at least you get some action out of it.

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Speaker 5: A couple of broken rims too, and a great story

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Speaker 5: or c have a very honest one on one breakdown

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Speaker 5: about how this date is actually going so far.

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Speaker 3: I think I take the heimlick option over that one,

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Speaker 3: and I wonder if our listener, Tina wishes she had

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Speaker 3: done the same. So let's talk to ur Tina. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: That intro makes it sound like you told your date

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Speaker 6: in the middle of it that it was going terribly well.

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Speaker 3: You sent us an email about this person's profile that

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Speaker 3: you met on Hinge, and I'm just going to read

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Speaker 3: some of the things that you sent from his bio

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Speaker 3: before we even.

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Speaker 4: Get to your story.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm interested.

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Speaker 3: So according to this his name is Josh. He's a

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Speaker 3: specialist in education. His profile says he's dating with the

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Speaker 3: intention of marriage.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, sounds like a stable guy, good.

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Speaker 3: Career, and he's into skyscrapers and tropical fruits. Not sure

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Speaker 3: why we would need to know that information for this,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's nice to be over informed sometimes.

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Speaker 7: So you ever put a big apple on the big apple,

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Speaker 7: this guy would free me out.

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Speaker 6: Sounds like if there's a lull in your date, you

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Speaker 6: just bring him to a tall building and he's really excited.

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Speaker 3: Yes, story, all right, Now we have an idea about

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Speaker 3: who Josh is. Clearly you met him on the app.

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Speaker 3: So what did you two do for your date?

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Speaker 2: We actually went to the doo the zoo zoo.

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Speaker 1: It's a cute date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We got a couple of waffle combs and we

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Speaker 2: just walked around but then animals and just talked a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Well he did he talked a lot.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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Speaker 3: Does that have anything to do with the thing I

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Speaker 3: mentioned earlier about when the date's kind of going?

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Speaker 2: Man? Yes, he's the one who asked me.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he asked you how the date was going?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I was being kind of quiet and so

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Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't sure if I was having fun. So

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Speaker 2: he just asked, like, is the date going? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Was that the first question he asked you?

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Speaker 6: Because it sounds like he was talking, Yeah, what did

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Speaker 6: you say?

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Speaker 2: I was like, do you want me to be honest?

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Speaker 7: I would have been like no, no, and that would

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Speaker 7: have made it fun, right, like lie to me anyway.

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Speaker 4: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he said yes please? So I told him directly, well, honestly,

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Speaker 2: you're talking a lot.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, good feedback is next to you as a

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Speaker 3: person who talks a lot, it's good to know that.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe, but some people might take that differently. Did

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Speaker 3: Josh seem offended by the critique.

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Speaker 2: No, he seemed more confused, like as if he didn't

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Speaker 2: know he was doing it. But he heard me out

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Speaker 2: and then he tried to take constructive criticism.

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Speaker 4: That's good and he did a good job of it.

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Speaker 1: Oh he did, okay, good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: We hung out for another hour, ended up grabbing drinks

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Speaker 2: there because at the Zoom you can buy beer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 6: They're offering alcohol at every kid's place these days.

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Speaker 1: Parents are just like.

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Speaker 7: Them to like sloth shots.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just beer and wine typically. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: It's just to take the edge off.

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Speaker 1: It's not to turn up doing body shots at the zoo. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you bring your own in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe a little bit of beer, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of alcohol helped make the conversation go a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: It actually did.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he was just nervous, right, Maybe you're just a

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Speaker 6: strikingly beautiful woman and he couldn't think straight and that's

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Speaker 3: You said it, she's not denying that. How did you

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Speaker 3: leave things at the very end?

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Speaker 2: Well, at the very end, we just hugged and said goodbye.

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Speaker 2: But while we were there, we worked on like an

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Speaker 2: antelope puzzle and we did it together and it was fun.

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Speaker 2: So it was cool.

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Speaker 7: So the date actually got better then after you told

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Speaker 7: him like he was talking too.

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Speaker 2: Much, Yeah, it actually did. Like I mean, he was

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Speaker 2: more mindful, he asked me questions, he allowed me to

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Speaker 2: be Yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: You did an antelope puzzle. Yeah, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: Any date, Jeff, I mean sorry, you said it just

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Speaker 3: led to a hug at the very end.

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Speaker 4: There was no kiss.

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Speaker 2: No we text since then, but they've all been pretty

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Speaker 2: short so I feel like, now maybe he's overthinking things

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Speaker 2: and he's taking what I said too seriously.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 4: He talked too much before and now he's not talking enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I can see that he's overcompensating, or.

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Speaker 2: It could be something completely different that I didn't pick

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Speaker 6: Okay, but you're definitely feeling the vibe like he is

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Speaker 6: not responding enough to ask you out again obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I'm sending him ferdy text and Ferdy

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Speaker 2: picks and he not responded. That never happened.

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Speaker 3: She's like Antelope skyscraper, guava fruits. Problem is wrong with

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Speaker 3: this man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it, jeff.

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Speaker 3: Follow me for my sexy emoji handbook coming later on

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Speaker 3: in this winter name is really.

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Speaker 4: No spoilers, no spoilers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, first we got to finish this second date update.

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Speaker 3: We'll call Josh, get some answers, and do it right

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Speaker 3: after this.

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Speaker 1: Hold on Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Second date updates.

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Speaker 4: I've learned two things so far today, Okay. One, you

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Speaker 4: can't drink at the zoo.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I believe you, of all people didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you sniff out a beer.

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Speaker 3: Wherever it is a zoo frequenter, but look for Brooke

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Speaker 3: and Jefferies listener Zoo Crawl coming soon.

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Speaker 4: We'll meet you by the Baboons for Jaeger Bombs.

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Speaker 6: I think it's like I responsible, you have a beer,

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Speaker 6: Jeff don't only.

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Speaker 4: Doo days Brook and Jefferies listener.

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Speaker 6: Zoo Crawl unless passes out in the bear enclosure.

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Speaker 4: Odd hashtagals.

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Speaker 3: The second thing I've learned is with enough constructive criticism,

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Speaker 3: you can change a man.

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Speaker 4: Brooke already knew that.

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Speaker 1: She tells me it is not worth your energy.

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Speaker 4: I said that.

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Speaker 3: Because our listener Tina was honest on her date when

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Speaker 3: Josh asked, how do you think this is going with us?

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Speaker 3: And she was polite but said, you'd probably be going

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he heard her. You know, like that's the

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Speaker 1: amazing thing.

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Speaker 4: He's like, oh, okay, exactly. Their day actually went pretty

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Speaker 3: He didn't run off and cry near the snake cage

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Speaker 3: like most guys would. He actually stuck around, had fun.

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Speaker 3: They got drinks, did puzzles. So maybe there's another factor

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Speaker 3: playing into all this that we don't know about yet.

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Speaker 3: So Tina, even though he has all these issues. Why

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Speaker 3: is it that you want us to reach out to

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, we had fun together and he's like

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Speaker 7: Well, the fact that he could adjust and take constructive

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Speaker 6: Well, and anybody who's a talker knows that if you

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Speaker 4: Okay, maybe let's take some of our own advice. There, I.

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Speaker 3: Shut it, and we're gonna call Josh. Let's listen to ourselves.

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Speaker 3: I'm dialing Josh's number right now. Hopefully he picks up here.

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Speaker 2: We go, great, Thank you, guys, You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 4: Hey is this Josh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey Josh, Josh, good morning.

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Speaker 4: How many are therapy?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's a lot of us in here because

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Speaker 3: We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, kind of

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Speaker 1: I worked on a show called The Morning Zoh.

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Speaker 4: God supposed to.

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Speaker 7: Be a joke.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on the radio right now, Josh.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay.

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Speaker 3: Why why is because we're doing a segment called a

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Speaker 4: Waiting for response.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, he doesn't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: That's all right.

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Speaker 3: It's a segment we try to help out listeners who've

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Speaker 4: Back for a second meetup.

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Speaker 3: So that's the case with you and one of our

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Speaker 1: You're not letting the pause happen. You're doing it to

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Speaker 1: give him a being. You know he's processing a lot

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Speaker 7: Don't force it.

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Speaker 4: I'll try it again, Tina. Yeah, Tina, I remember Tina.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sorry, I know this is probably a lot. I'll

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Speaker 3: just tell you that we spoke to Tina before calling you,

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Speaker 3: and she told us about your hangout. She mentioned the

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Speaker 3: vibe between you may have changed after you asked if

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Speaker 3: everything was going okay in the middle of the date.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: What did you think about her response?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, have her feedback.

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Speaker 8: I mean she used this analogy. Seems she called it

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Speaker 8: the stop light rule.

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Speaker 6: Okay, stop light rule when she was talking about how

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Speaker 6: you were talking too much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not familiar with that. What is the stop

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Speaker 8: Well, she says that when you've been talking for twenty seconds,

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Speaker 8: it goes from a green light to a yellow light because.

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Speaker 4: You've started to talk too long. Twenty seconds, yeah, twenty seconds.

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Speaker 8: And then she said, once you hit forty seconds, it's

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Speaker 8: a red light.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's like a general rule, you're saying.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, she can playing the whole thing to me. And

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm trying to count while you were talking.

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Speaker 4: Just now I heard it.

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Speaker 4: And this is all feedback you're getting on a first date.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we were having drinks and like got

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Speaker 7: She's got one of those big speeding guns. She's knocking in.

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Speaker 4: I'm counting, keep going. You're not talking enough now.

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Speaker 8: The instructor was like speed up, now, slow down, I

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Speaker 7: She's like, I love the way you parallel park. That paragraph. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: It's understandable. And you know what, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 4: The intersection is yours.

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Speaker 2: Josh, my god, Like, you make me sound so horrible.

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Speaker 2: Wait even listening.

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Speaker 8: This whole time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're making me look pretty bad here, Like, well, well, I.

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Speaker 6: He was just saying it was overwhelming, Tina. It was

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but like, where's the lie?

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Speaker 8: Like I didn't say anything that was not true?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, to be honest when you were talking to

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Speaker 1: Why are you so offended? You gave him feedback and

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Speaker 2: Because he has a tendency to like drone on and on,

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Speaker 2: don't forget that. You think, like, what do you say

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Speaker 8: Okay, I did, but like I wasn't expecting.

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Speaker 2: Your accountability, accept accountability, Like it's not your fault. You're

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Speaker 6: I don't don't think it's a compliment. You think it

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Speaker 1: It's like you like the person.

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Speaker 7: For how they are.

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Speaker 4: Now potential in you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one day, I didn't mean it like that.

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Speaker 2: I meant it like he's improving every second and he

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Speaker 7: That's true. I really don't pay that much attention a lot.

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Speaker 8: They're not paying attention like like, I'm sure they are

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Speaker 4: So there take that advice.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm always open for getting better, Josh, But if

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Speaker 3: Like, actually, the stop like things has already been taken,

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Speaker 1: Reship.

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Speaker 8: Relationships are not supposed to be this hard, especially but

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Speaker 7: A little confusing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you what it was. I explained to

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Speaker 6: It feels like one of those roundabouts where you don't

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Speaker 3: I'm going to give everybody the red light here, okay,

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Speaker 3: And I'm just going to tell you a little fun

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Speaker 3: this is everybody, all of us here and every person

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Speaker 6: Shut off.

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Speaker 1: What does that have to do with him thinking she

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Speaker 6: Okay, there's an easier way to say that is our speech.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think the twenty second rule is real because it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah speech, No more advice is need.

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Speaker 3: I should just ask would you care to both improve

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Speaker 3: one more time and we'll pay for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would do it again and do it

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Speaker 3: So that's a big yes from Tina is looking to

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Speaker 3: what do you say, will you be her project? I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think so. I don't want to feel

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Speaker 4: So a big note from me.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting most people think traffic court is fun. Well,

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Speaker 1: It's off. It's so much for something.

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Speaker 3: King Jeffrey in the morning, red light, green light, yellow

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Speaker 3: fatal and squid game and apparently in the dating world too.

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Speaker 1: How do you not make that connection earlier?

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Speaker 3: It's funny, Probably should have, but maybe we should use

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Speaker 3: it on this show. As soon as Brook starts telling

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Speaker 3: wouldn't pay any attention to her, alexis, you're going to

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Speaker 6: I get red carded and you just look too much.

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Speaker 4: We know left one was a little wonky and he

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Speaker 6: He was always interested. Job doesn't matter how wonky things are.

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Speaker 3: But if you need help in your dating life, like

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Speaker 3: Brooke did back in her teenage years, you can always

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Speaker 3: email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling

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Speaker 3: you back, and go check out all of our second

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Speaker 4: They're up online where you get yours at Brook and

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey