1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome burg Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: The next phase of the offseason got underway on Monday, 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Organized team activities or OTAs for short. They were football 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: players on a football field doing football activities. So what 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: we learned? First, though, we need to congratulate Danny and 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: her golf game. That's right for golf game. It's Cardinals 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: cover two, Episode six forty six, and it starts now. 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Budda Baker, What Heart? 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: What rent? 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acycardinals 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: dot com, Slash podcasts. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: So more Harry Magic. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig grioloud. 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Before we go any further in this edition of Cardinals 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by a Hundai, proud partner of the 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. A round of applause. That's right, everyone stand 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and applaud Danny Sirek, who did something late last week 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: that I will let I will not let her or 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins ever forget do you want to detail as 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: opposed to me detailing? 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: Sure. It was the first episode of a new season 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: of Game On, which is a fun segment we started 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: last off season where it's getting to know the players 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: less as players and more as people through fun kids games. 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: And there was a Cardinals golf outing in which Zaven 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: Collins was participating last week, so I went a little 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: early and we had a putting challenge between the two 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: of us for the first episode of Game On. My 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: dad is a big golfer, and he told me. He 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: told me his neck hurt from how how often he 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 3: was shaking his head watching that. And I will say, look, 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: I don't I'm not a good golfer. Like all the 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: sports I played, I was much better with my legs, 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: so like the arm movement given this was putting, so 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: it's a little different, like I'm not a good golfer. 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: I did lean into the bit to a certain extent. 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: Like if you watched it and you saw the rangefinder, 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: I know you're not supposed to use a rangefinder. We 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: were just trying to have some fun. The gloves was real. 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: I know that you're only supposed to wear one glove, 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: and I was like, it'll be funny, I'll wear too, 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: and so I borrowed them from one of our videographers 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: and I didn't know that he only owned left gloves, 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: and he didn't feel the need to tell me because 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: he was like, why would I own a right handed glove? 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: Like of course, as if like I should know that. 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: So when I did try to put both those on, 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: that was that was a real reaction. However, you know 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: the range farder that was kind of leading into the bit, 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: but we did have some fund Daven was a very 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: great subject. He had a lot of fun. It was 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 3: early in the morning, so we had fun. And that's 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: the first of many Game On episodes coming on out, 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: so be sure to check that out on our official 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: YouTube channel, Twitter, website. 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: All that Good Stuff Season two, episode one. So congratulations 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: again for getting renewed for a second season, because that's 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: not always a guarantee in this line of work, as 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: we've seen both in television and radio as well. But 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: posted last Friday, which was Zavan's birthday, but the star 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: of the show, the line of the episode quote, let 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: the record show I'm a better golfer than Zaven Collins. 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: That's what the record shows. 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Because Danny won the competition. 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: You know what, Honestly it was a true underdog story 70 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: because which I mean. First of all, I knew off 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: the top when we were going to start the first 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: drop with rock papers or shoot. I was joking with 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: our By the. 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Way, that took an awfully long time. I knew. 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: I knew from the beginning. I was like, when, don't 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: be funny if we went in like six rounds playing 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: rock paperses or shoot and lo and behold. But Zaven 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: he got me the first round and then I came back. 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: Zavin should have won. He just got cocky. Yes, he said, 80 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: are you watching? And I said yeah, And he looked 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: up and he kept eye contact with me as he 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: went to putt and he missed. And that's how I 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: came back. So I asked him when we were done, 84 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: I said, did you lose on purpose? And he said no. 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: So I'm going to take that as the truth. 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: All right, another feather in your cap, bitch. You know 87 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: that's not going to go well in that locker room. 88 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: I'll continue to remind him. 89 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing is. It just gives Rondelle more, 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, more room to brag to me that he's 91 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: the only one who's beat me and well full season. 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: In one episode this year of Game. 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: On careful Cardinal players and coaches, I'd love to see 94 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: a coach in there as well. But if Danny comes 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: walking around and issuing a challenge, although it's more of 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: a welcome, would you like to participate in this? But 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: it is a true challenge and she does. She does 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: not hold back. 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to go easy on them. They're 100 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 3: professional athletes again. 101 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Game on season two, episode one the Cardinals official YouTube channel. 102 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: It's a very, very creative, different approach to getting to 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: know these players, not only on the field, but off 104 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the field because it is it's a it's a different 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: environment and you try to get them a little bit 106 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: more relaxed. Now, what was not discussed in this video 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: something I want to discuss here because on Monday start 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: of OTAs the next phase of the off season workouts. 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: But looking at Zavon Collins, what position where is he 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: going to play this season? He's a linebacker? Is that 111 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: inside or outside? And once again during the open portion 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: of Monday's work Zavon Collins, as we saw earlier in 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: the off season, working with the outside linebackers. 114 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: Not only that Kaiser White was getting someone on one 115 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: attention with the linebackers coach, and look, that could just 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: be trying to ketch. He wasn't the only one there 117 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: were you know, we saw out at OTAs on Monday, 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: Isaia Simmons and Jalen Thompson were also getting some you know, 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: one on one time, So that could just be the 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: key players right really making sure those leaders are caught up. 121 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: But it was also asked Jonathan gannon Monday by the 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: press of who's gonna wear the green dot, Who's gonna 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: call the defense? And that's something that he said they 124 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 3: talk about every day Gan and saying they're still making 125 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: that decision. To me, that will be Kaiser White, because 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: even if Zavon Collins is not simply playing on the outside, 127 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: it is clear they are going to have him move around. 128 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: That is a lot to have to call the defense 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: when you're constantly having to move around and then think 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: about everything else at the same time. So even if 131 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Zavon Collins is moving and being more flexible, that to 132 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: me says that Kaiser White will call your defense, and 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: that even if Zavion still comes inside he's gonna be 134 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: moving around and being more flexible, maybe in how previous 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: regime envisioned. 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, I'm gonna make a prediction here and be 137 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more strong than you are. Kaiser White 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: will be wearing that green dot week once fair. 139 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: That's how I feel. 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean one the. 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: Only option truly, if it's not gonna be Buddha Baker, 142 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: would be Jalen Thompson, and I just I don't see 143 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: that happening. 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: It just becomes more difficult because this was a conversation 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: we had a year ago. Who's gonna wear the green dot? Well, 146 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: it's more likely that it's someone on that second level 147 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: of the defense as opposed to a defensive lineman. Then 148 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: you gotta turn around and yell to the secondary or 149 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: someone in the secondary that's gonna yell up front to 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: make sure whatever checks are needed. So typically, yeah, it 151 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: is one of those linebackers you're inside linebacker. But Kauser 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: White is familiar with this coaching staff and this defense 153 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Gannon Nick rawlis so to me, regardless of 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: how much one on one time he was getting with 155 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Sam Seekis, which I think is just another reason to say, 156 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: all right, here's our quarterback on that side of the ball. 157 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: We need you to know this defense inside and out 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: to get everyone else lined up. Not that Zaven can't 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: do it, but if he's gonna be moving around left 160 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to right and more as an edge guy rushing into 161 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: the backfield as supposed to dropping back, Yeah, I think 162 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Kaiser White's wearing that green dot and Sam and Collins 163 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: right now goes into that outside linebackers room, which is 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: much needed at this point. 165 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: I was thinking that we were watching OTAs of just 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: we had talked about it on the Cardinals Underground podcast 167 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: last week of what's a bigger priority right now? Where 168 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: do you feel least comfortable if the season we're to 169 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: start with that be the secondary or the pass rush, 170 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: And it's I mean, you look at that outside linebackers 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: and it is a bit concerning of maybe not even 172 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: just size, but experience, and not only just experience but productivity. 173 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: But at the same time, what else could the Cardinals 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: have realistically done. I know people always want a big 175 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: splash signing and free agency, but with how many holes 176 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: this team had to fill, he couldn't really have afforded 177 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: a signing like a JJ Watt a few years ago 178 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: or something along those lines, And I still do like 179 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: the areas they address more so in the draft and 180 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: throughout for agency more, you know, those inside linebackers and 181 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: decisions like that. So it's hard because it's like I 182 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: look at that outside linebackers group and I'm like, oh, 183 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: I still feel like there needs to be more, but 184 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I also understand why there isn't more, quite at this moment. 185 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: So I like moving Zaman and there. That was something 186 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: that the previous coaching staff had kind of tinkered with 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: at the end of last season. Some size, good tackling, 188 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, if you can get that speed and kind 189 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: of create some trouble there, I'm all in favor for 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: trying that out. 191 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Ask yourself this question, who scares you? Who, if you're 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback or the opposing offensive coordinator, scares you 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: in that outside linebacker's room. And again we're speaking here 194 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: at the end of MESA, there is a lot of 195 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: time and it's not meaning no disrespect, which obviously is 196 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: a precursor to disrespecting someone, but just based off the 197 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: resumes of those six now seven individuals in that room, 198 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: there is no one that stands out to where you 199 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: break the huddle, all right, where is whatever player that 200 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: is top of mine? When it comes to the opposing team. 201 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: Scouting report, you don't know anything about the rookie b J. 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: Julia. 203 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: You don't know anything. I would think Saven Collins. But again, 204 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that there's enough tape to really know 205 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: how formidable he is outside. So if you're asking and 206 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: you're looking at the rest of the room of Dennis Gardak, 207 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: Victor to mccagee, my j Sanders, Cam Thomas probably be 208 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: my JA. And again that's not not everybody is going 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: to be, you know, a Chandler Jones. But that's that's 210 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: not necessarily saying that. Okay, like let's keep an eye 211 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: on Sanders. The offenses aren't going to have to completely 212 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: adjust around Sanders, and that's that's something this Cardinals defense 213 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: has had the last couple of years, for the most part, 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: that they don't have right now. 215 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: We did hear from campin Thomas earlier on Monday. He 216 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: is bigger than what he was a year ago, and 217 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: I think that's just natural one getting to know what 218 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: you're playing weight is and what it takes to be 219 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: at the NFL. But He mentioned that he was a 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: little bit bigger when he first got to the Cardinals. 221 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: They told him to drop some weight two fifty five, 222 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: and now he's back up to that weight. On the roster, 223 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: he's listed at two sixty seven. He says he's probably 224 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: more on that two seventy two to seventy two category, 225 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: which is where he was his last year at San 226 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Diego State as a defensive end. Hand in the dirt. Now, 227 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: I do expect him to maybe lit a little bit 228 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: both hand in the dirt and stand on the outside, 229 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: but he is your outside edge rush or whatever however, 230 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: if it's standing up or lined up with the hand 231 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: in the dirt. But I do think just year two 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: for him not only feeling more comfortable, but a lot 233 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: more is going to be expected of him and my Jay. 234 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I wonder, I don't even know how this 235 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: could be measure, but I wonder too, of having a 236 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: new coaching staff going into year two as supposed to 237 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: being a player, and you were with the same coaching 238 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: ste going into year two. There's pros and cons for both, 239 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: and not to say that they wouldn't be motivated, but 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: maybe this fresher start, I guess to a certain degree 241 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: even knowingly is one year under his belt. Maybe that's 242 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: good for him, and maybe this coaching staff is going 243 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: to bring out more for him and that he's really 244 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: going to have that jump that you look for from 245 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: players going from year one to year two when players 246 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: talk about having to shift their weight so drastically twenty 247 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: pounds and I find this justin Pugh, the offensive lineman 248 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: last year when he was talking about when he ended 249 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: up coming back and was, you know, at one point 250 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: thinking about retiring and then when he wanted to play, 251 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: had to put on all this weight. Like when you 252 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: hear about players talk about that, it's crazy to me 253 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: because you are working out and you're lifting, and you're 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: bringing all these calories and you're having to eat imagine 255 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: so much given obviously you know you're focusing on proteins 256 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: or whatever it else. You're being very specific at what 257 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: you are intaking for that goal, but absolutely wild to 258 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: be doing what they're doing and then you're either dropping 259 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: or gaining twenty pounds for the most part muscle, Like, 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: that's just crazy to me. 261 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: So you're saying you jealous the ability to gain lose weight. No, no, no, no, no, no, 262 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm much too smart for that. Yeah you are, I'm 263 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: much too smart for that. Now is it? Are you 264 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: envious or do you feel for what these players? In 265 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the case of Cameron Thomas, you're asked to lose weight, 266 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: gain weight, lose weight, and you're going back and forth. 267 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 3: I guess both. I guess both. Pretty impressive. 268 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas my j Sanders three sacks each a year ago. Now, 269 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: let's stay on the defensive side, because we did bring 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: up his name, Isaiah Simmons. He is the sack leader 271 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: as far as players returning this season. JJ Watt retired 272 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: Zach Allen now in Denver, Isaiah Simmons with four and 273 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: a half sacks a year ago, the best sack artist, 274 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: if you will. As far as the numbers are concerned 275 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: from a year ago, Well, we saw him on the 276 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: field for the first time this offseason. He had not 277 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: been seen. We saw him though in the building when 278 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: there was that question, where was he during that veteran 279 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: voluntary mini camp the week of the draft, that extra 280 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: mini camp you're given when you have a new head coach. 281 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: That shoulder injury late last season the final game of 282 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: the regular season, did that keep him off the field. 283 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: While he was back on the field on Monday and 284 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: with the safeties as he was all of last season. 285 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: I was going to say, deja vu, Craig, It's really 286 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: not surprising. I think when you look at the players 287 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: that this staff brought in in the offseason, that linebacker position, 288 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: it's a little different than what Isaiah Simmons looks like, 289 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: his body type and what his skill set is. So 290 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: it's not really surprising to me that we've only seen 291 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: him the handful of times he's been out there. I 292 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: guess this was the first practice really Monday, that he's 293 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: been with the DB's. That's what we saw. He was 294 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: getting a lot of, like I mentioned earlier, a lot 295 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: of that one on one attention alongside j Thompson, and 296 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: that to me had me wondering of h if somebody 297 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: else were also also out on that field, would it 298 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: be the three of them working together or is this 299 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: more a backup plan if that third player is not 300 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: on the field? Are you picking are you picking up 301 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: what I'm throwing down? 302 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Budda Baker was not in attendance, and I believe the 303 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: exact quote from head coach Jonathan Gannon with respects to 304 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: number three, and your starting safety was Buddha will show 305 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: up when he wants to show up and working, And 306 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't said in the tone that I 307 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: just said it. It was Buddha will be here when 308 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: he wants to be here, when he needs to be here. 309 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: He's doing everything in order to get ready for the 310 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: regular season. There's no concern. There should be no concern 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: from anybody as far as is, even though he's not here, 312 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: is Boo Butha doing every thing that he needs to 313 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: do in order to be Week one ready? And the 314 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: answer to that is he is doing everything he needs 315 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: to do. 316 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: You knew that about Buddha Baker, right, We all know 317 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: that that that's just the type of person, the type 318 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: of player he is. He's going to make sure he's ready. 319 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: And again this is voluntary. Still right, He's by far 320 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: not the only veteran who's on out here. His situation 321 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: is just a little different, making it clear that he 322 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: would be open to playing somewhere else. Now we've talked 323 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: about I still think he's going to be on this roster. 324 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't think he will be traded, but it is 325 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: interesting to not have him out on the field. Have 326 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: that energy, that leadership out there. But you're probably right. 327 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: I would imagine if Buddha Baker were out on the 328 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: field Monday at OTA's Isaiah Simmons would still be getting that, 329 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: you know, individual attention alongside Jalen Thompson and getting in 330 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: that extra work. 331 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: So that's the defense. Let's switch it over now and 332 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: talk about what we saw offensively here during phase three 333 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: of OTAs. Again, this is the first time you can 334 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: get offense versus defense, but no contact. And yes, it's 335 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: still voluntary. DeAndre Hopkins was not in attendance. And again 336 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: I'll go back to coach Cannon, what about DeAndre Hopkins quote, 337 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Hopkins. It's voluntary. Again, tone different 338 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: than how I said it. No, one's worried about de 339 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: hop Although I'll say this Dan, I'm still surprised, and 340 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: was talking with Darren Urban during practice today. I'm still 341 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: surprised that we're at this point, darn near June first 342 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: and having this conversation about what is the future, what 343 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: is the status of number ten. 344 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: Do you think it was a coincidence or was the 345 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: timing great that DeAndre Hopkins was on the podcast recently 346 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: with Brandon Marshall and said what he said just a 347 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: few hours before Jonathan Gannon took the podium. 348 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am athlete. It was about our long interview. 349 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: But DeAndre Hopkins is not at the Dignity Health Arizona 350 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals training center. He's not even in Arizona. 351 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: He's none in the country. 352 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: He's not. He's true. He's he's in Toronto working out 353 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: getting his body. 354 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: On the podcast, Hopkins was asked about his situation with 355 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: the Cardinals and then was asked a broader question about 356 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: what he is looking for in a team that is 357 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: the right fit for him, And there were three things 358 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: that he mentioned. 359 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: It was. 360 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: Essentially a great front. 361 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Office, stable management. 362 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: It was a quarterback who loves the game and is 363 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: also going to make those around him better. And it 364 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: was a great defense. And while all those things I'm 365 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: sure are true. And they specified asking about the Cardinals, 366 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: and he said, you know, he's had good conversations with 367 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Monty Austin for it. He was saying more in the 368 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: past right of not only with Steve Kin, but also 369 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: with the Houston Texans quarterback. He had good things to 370 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: say about Kyler. He was a little iffy when talking 371 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: about the rest of the quarterbacks room, he kind of 372 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: stopped before saying anything he might regret if he were 373 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: to step back into this locker room. 374 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: It was concerning resumes again the pro Bowl caliber quarterback 375 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: that you take Kyler Murray off that list, then there 376 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: isn't anyone in that room. 377 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: Is DeAndre Hopkins wrong and saying or thinking that, No, 378 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: we are essentially saying the same thing on these podcasts, crag, 379 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: That's not where I have a little bit of maybe 380 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: not an issue, but I'm frustrated with something like this 381 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: being said because DeAndre Hopkins at the beginning of the 382 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: off season was posting very cryptically about where, not even 383 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: necessarily cryptically of like thanking Cardinals fans and where do 384 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: you want to see me play? Where should I go? 385 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: And then just a few weeks ago posted a video 386 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 3: working out in Phoenix and said, who said I wanted 387 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: to be anywhere else? And then on this podcast or 388 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: this interview basically implied that by saying that he met 389 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: in Phoenix, not with the Cardinals. And I just can 390 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: keep up with somebody who says that they want to 391 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: be traded and they don't want to be traded, and 392 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: I want to be here? And what do you mean 393 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: I said I wanted to be here? It's just a lot. 394 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: The line of questioning, though, was also that the Cardinals 395 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: are shopping DeAndre Hopkins, which true or not. Don't forget 396 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: that Hopkins and his representatives were given permission to figure 397 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: out maybe there would be a trade partner out there 398 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: amongst the other thirty one teams. 399 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: And one on a media tour, essentially having people close 400 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: to him go on different media outlets and flat out 401 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: name teams that Hopkins will be interested in playing for. 402 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: Am I missing something? Is there something I'm not understanding? 403 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: Look? 404 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: I understand that it's a business and it's all about 405 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: the money, and I don't have any sort of problem 406 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: if Hopkins wants to go elsewhere or he feels the 407 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: way he does about the quarterback situation with Kyler Murray 408 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: likely not being ready to start the season. I understand 409 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: if he wants to go somewhere where the team might 410 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: feel like they are closer to winning a Super Bowl 411 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: than the Cardinals are right now. I don't have a 412 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: problem with that. My thing is is all these contradictory 413 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: things that you're going out there and you're saying and 414 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: while he's not here and this is a new staff 415 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of new players on this team, 416 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff isn't going to get to 417 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 3: them at the same point, if all you're doing is 418 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: just going and talking about this team and all this stuff, 419 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: at some point, I would imagine players are probably going 420 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: to get a little frustrated if you're saying all these 421 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: things and then you end up here in this locker 422 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: room and it's like, okay, Like now what. 423 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: He is under contract? Now, the question is will he 424 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: show during the mandatory mini camp middle of June or 425 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: does he get a hall pass? If you will and say, 426 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: don't worry about it, well she at the start of 427 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: training camp if there is nothing done between now and 428 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: late July early August. Again, we've been talking about this 429 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: now for months. I'd like to get to the point 430 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: where we don't have to have these recurring conversations because 431 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: to me, Di Hop is still a talent and I 432 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: don't see this team just getting rid of him to 433 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: get rid of him. 434 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: I honestly at this point, on less something drastic happens 435 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: to another team where you essentially have a star wide 436 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: receiver who has a season ending or an eight to 437 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: ten week an injury that would keep you out, you know, 438 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: eight to ten weeks of the season that you would 439 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: need someone and it's during training camp or something like that. 440 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: I can't see Hopkins getting traded before the season starts 441 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: and then before the trade deadline you try and get 442 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: something out. 443 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: Well. 444 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: See, it's something that we will continue to keep an 445 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: eye on, as we did on Monday, and we noticed 446 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: that there was no number ten, which we knew ahead 447 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: of time because that interview happened about an hour and 448 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: a half before the team officially hit the field for 449 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: the start of OTA's but it was speaking of the 450 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. It was good to see Rondell Moore 451 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: on the field. Remember he ended last season on IR 452 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: with that growing injury, but he looked again, you're not 453 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: running full speed, but he looked pretty good. And if 454 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: you do not have a number ten on the field, 455 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: then you're gonna need someone and a lot of different 456 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: players top up in that wide receiver room. Zach Pascal, 457 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: who we had a chance to hear from on Monday, 458 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: likes the chemistry and the fact that everyone is working 459 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: together in that room. You've got Hollywood Brown, Rondel Moore, 460 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, Zach Pascal in that room, and then a 461 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: lot of newcomers and some unproven guys in there, including 462 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: your new draft pick Michael Wilson. But it does change 463 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: the complexion of that room if you have number ten, 464 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: and obviously if you don't have number. 465 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: Ten right, who would be the alpha is an interesting question, 466 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: and you talk about a lot of unproven young players 467 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: in that room, I would argue maybe unproven isn't the 468 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: best word, but I think pretty much everyone in that 469 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: room is unproven because the biggest carryovers would be Greg Dortch, 470 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: Andre Bichelli, who will likely just pretty much be on 471 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: special teams, Rondell Moore, and Hollywood Brown. You and I 472 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: have had this discussion a few times about if Hollywood 473 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: Brown is a true number one. We feel a little differently, 474 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: but I do understand what you feel he's not because 475 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: he hasn't proven that here. My point of saying that 476 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: pretty much everyone in that room is unproven is because 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 3: this is a new staff, and if you're looking at 478 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: those main players, Greg Dortch, who played well last year, 479 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of playing time, Rondel Moore, wasn't healthy. 480 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown wasn't healthy. So even though Hollywood and Ron 481 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: Dale are those veteran presences, I mean, Zach Pascal's been 482 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: the league right for a few years. But I'm talking 483 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: about here with the Cardinals, the fact that those two 484 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: were not healthy last season, and this is a new 485 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: coaching staff. To a certain degree, everyone in that room 486 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: maybe not unproven, but it's up for grabs for anyone 487 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: in that room. I don't think anything is set in stone. Now, 488 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: that's not to say right Hollywood Brown is going to 489 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: be My point being that, especially with the new staff 490 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: and coming off injuries for Rondo More and Hollywood Brown, 491 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: they still have a lot to prove. 492 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Pascal has done it, although he did it with Indianapolis, 493 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: not so much with the Eagles last season. And you 494 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: can make an arguments, and I will that last season 495 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: as far as most reliable, most consistent, Greg Dortch, yes, 496 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: wearing an Arizona Cardinals uniform in that wide receiver room 497 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: because he was available each and every Sunday. Can he 498 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: take that next step? Does this to your point, Danny, 499 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: this new coaching staff, do they see the same or 500 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: is it blank slate or it's like, yeah, you've got 501 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: a limited skill set. We don't know where your ceiling is. 502 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we see it here as opposed to a little 503 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: bit higher. I'm curious where he falls in on that 504 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: depth chart. 505 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's funny because I want to say, 506 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: you know, training camp will be a great way to 507 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: see that, but Greg Doorge has great training camps, right 508 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: and then, but again that was a different coaching staff, 509 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: so we'll see. But it is nice to see that 510 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: this staff has really focused on some height and some 511 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 3: size with the play is that they have brought in 512 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: of drafting Michael Wilson, Brian Cobbs, Zach Pascal. So the 513 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: height that was missing, if you don't have Deandrew Hopkins, 514 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: you no longer have Antoine Wesley aj Green, You're starting 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: to get some of that back in that room. 516 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: A couple of other observations. Colt McCoy throwing. 517 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: How about that. 518 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: First time we've seen him throw this offseason. He was 519 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: not throwing during that voluntary veteran mini camp the week 520 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: of the draft. Again, it is late May. We'll see 521 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: what happens once training camp begins. But all quarterbacks were 522 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: on the field minus Kyle the Murray. Although Murray was 523 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: in attendance watching, what I thought was I thought was 524 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: important and it was noticed by Zach, it was noticed 525 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: by the head coach, and I think noticed obviously by us. 526 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: But just the fact that yeah, he got his work 527 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: done inside. Can't do anything on the field at the moment, 528 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: but is watching and as JG said, going through those 529 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: mental reps, which are just as valuable as physical reps. 530 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: But seeing Kayler Murray on the football field, I think 531 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: was important not only for us in the media, but 532 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: his teammates as well. 533 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we have discussed before practice started early in the 534 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: offseason of is Kyler Murray going to rehab here or 535 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: how is he going to handle this new coaching staff. 536 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: Is he going to be around to start building those relationships, 537 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: And to be honest to many of our surprise, he 538 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: has been here and he has been playing an active 539 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: role to the best physically that he can not out 540 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: on the practice field, but are practicing, but still being 541 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: out on the field and in those meeting rooms and 542 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: taking those mental reps, and that is still important and 543 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: that's important to show to this team. I do think 544 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: that the type of leader that Kyler Murray is in 545 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: the locker room. It's probably a little different than what 546 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: the perception is of him out in the media. But 547 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: I mean, we can't be so naive to say that 548 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: players don't hear and see that stuff. Sure, you know, 549 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: they might not go out to check it, but they 550 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: hear some of it. So I'm sure that seeing Kyler 551 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: Murray out there, and the fact that he's been around 552 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: and he's been here every day, I'm sure reassures his 553 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: teammates and especially the new ones, of oh, this is 554 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: this is Kyler Murray right, like the competitor, the leader, 555 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: like this, this is who he is. And so it 556 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: is nice to see him out on the field and 557 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: being there and being present and as active as he 558 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: can be. 559 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: As JG said, it just shows that he cares. And 560 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: I think that, more than anything, is most important when 561 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: you see Kyler Murray out on that football field as 562 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: a spectator, but again, maybe doing a little bit more. Again, 563 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: I didn't see any, but it would not have surprised 564 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: me if he pulled aside someone and said, yes, this 565 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: is what we want to see. This is how I 566 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: like to see it being done. All that happens inside, 567 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: there's no reason why it can't happen outside. 568 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do think that overall for camaraderie's sake, 569 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: that having your franchise quarterback out there still wearing a 570 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: sleeve on that right leg is good for morale. 571 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: A little bit odd though, as far as what we 572 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: noticed that was different out on that football field, and 573 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: that has seen new players wearing familiar numbers, which to 574 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: me was the first indication that, yeah, this is a 575 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: little bit different because the first number I saw was 576 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: number seven Byron Murphy. 577 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: Nope, very different, very different body type than Biron. 578 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Mama, that's true. Kaer White is a little bit bigger, 579 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: stockier than a Byron Murphy. But that was the first 580 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: number that I saw. It was like, wait a second, 581 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: who's seven? Oh, that's right, that's Kaizer one. 582 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: But Owen Papo the linebacker forty four Marcus, I like 583 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: I almost audibly gassed of, like what is Marcus doing here? 584 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: That one got me? And then you had a funny 585 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: joke with seeing from Afar the rookie b j Ojularian 586 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: eighteen AJ Green. Yeah, AJ Green's back. 587 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: It's when you're during rookie mini camp. Obviously, the roster 588 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: was twenty plus, so you already are thinking, all right, 589 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: what numbers and everything, and then you get to OTA's 590 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: when the veterans and rookies come together for the first time, 591 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you got ninety players on 592 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: the football fields. All right, what do we remember as 593 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: far as who's out on that football field? Familiar numbers 594 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: like I still have to go back and look whenever 595 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: I see fifty five. Well, last year, fifty five was 596 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Ben Neeman. This year fifty five is Dante Stills, and 597 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I still go back to fifty five Chandler Jones. It's 598 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: something that you always have to kind of relearn, especially 599 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: those I wouldn't say iconic numbers, but familiar like a 600 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: Zach Allen. Well he's not here anymore, so number ninety 601 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: four is Carlos Watkins, a newcomer. 602 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: There's definitely players or numbers where it's always going to 603 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: stick to being one person. Then it kind of catch 604 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: you if guard's like, wait a second, who is that now? 605 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: Even like thirteen, it's still Christian kirk to me, Yeah. 606 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I had to do a double take. And then obviously 607 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: we talk about size versus Christian Kirk Key Treil Clark. 608 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: Although we've been told that he prefers to be referred 609 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: to as Trey Trey. Maybe that's why he were thirteen 610 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: because you can't wear three, because that's Buddh Baker. 611 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: Maybe you should have asked him that you could have 612 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: asked I guess I hadn't thought about it, though. Next time, 613 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: tell me, I'll ask a question for you. 614 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I thought the best question of the day was yours. 615 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: It elicited the best response. 616 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: I thought that was how you were opening the podcast 617 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: originally to be honest, No, I. 618 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: Gave you your flav go ahead, and now we can. 619 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: Give the rechat for the listeners who were not live 620 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: streaming the press conferences. 621 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: It was question number four to head coach Jonathan Gannon, 622 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: and I believe it was a very fair question because, 623 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: as we've noticed very quickly, JG does not offer up 624 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: much as far as we want definitive like where certain 625 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: players are going to play, what kind of defense are 626 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: you going to run? 627 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: Coaches don't true, but. 628 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: As a first time head coach, maybe you thought maybe 629 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: you would get a little bit. He'd be a little 630 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: bit more comfortable and not maybe a little bit more 631 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: free than say a veteran head coach. But he keeps 632 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: things very close to the vest, and you tried really 633 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: really hard. 634 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: To get a question. 635 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: It was a very good question. Would you like to 636 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I'll hear what you'd be Danny, Well. 637 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: Just say that when it comes to the thought behind 638 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: the question is it's about the offensive line and there's 639 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: a lot of versatility in these players. And the three 640 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: that I was really thinking of was Josh Jones and 641 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: the rookies John Gaines and Paris Johnson Junior and where 642 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: they were getting some of those reps through rookie Minnie 643 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 3: camp and at Monday's OTA's practice. And again this is voluntary, 644 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: so really the only veterans besides Josh Jones from the 645 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: offensive line that were out there was Will Hernandez. So 646 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: my question to Jonathan Gannon was with the offensive line 647 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: and the versatility, is a decision to have these players 648 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 3: practice at the positions they are because that's where you 649 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: want to see them play, or because you don't have 650 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: your starting veterans there and you need to fill the spots. 651 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: And my thought was, Okay, if DJ Humphreyes were practicing 652 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: at left tackle and Kelvin beach and were practicing at 653 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: right tackle, where are you playing Josh Jones and Paris 654 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: Johnson Junior. Is it still in those positions as competition? 655 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: Are you playing them elsewhere? That was the thought behind 656 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: the question. So when I asked if those players are 657 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: practicing where they are because that's where you want to 658 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: see them play, or because you don't have your veterans 659 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: at practice, this is what he said, craiglew And you. 660 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: Could see the thought bubble over JG's head because he's like, 661 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: all right, that's a great question, and now I got 662 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to answer this without really 663 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: saying anything specific to where people are gonna run with. Oh, 664 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior is playing left tackle. No, he's playing 665 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: right tackle. So the response was with a smile on 666 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: his face. It's a pretty aggressive question. 667 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: Danny, and then he left let out a little chuckle. 668 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 3: I think he was just trying to buy time. 669 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: He was, and I do. He actually did give one 670 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: of the better responses because we always hear this versatility 671 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and he went in more in 672 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: depth on the fact that during Monday's Ota practice and 673 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of the offseason they are 674 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: mixing and matching. So maybe a Paris Johnson Junior does 675 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: play some right tackle, some left tackle, maybe even some guard, 676 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: well Hernandez right guard, left guard. You put them in. 677 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: They got to start somewhere. And then you see within 678 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: this offensive line, is Paris Johnson Junior capable playing right tackle? 679 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Is he more comfortable there than say, left tackle or 680 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: right guard or left guard, even though they might have 681 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: played those positions in the past. And I think a 682 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: lot of this is trying to figure out what is 683 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: best for the individual. And then obviously you put five 684 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: guys together to form the best offensive line. 685 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: That you have. 686 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 3: I didn't have a problem with the answer of any 687 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 3: sort of verse. I understand that versatility and depth is important, 688 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: and maybe I guess I should have known. I thought 689 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: it was worth the shot to try and see if 690 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 3: he was going to get a little more specific of Yeah, 691 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 3: if the veterans were here, we would still be practicing 692 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: these players at where they practiced on Monday. 693 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: Alas, it did give us one of the best responses 694 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: in something again, as we will not let Zave and 695 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: Collins forget that you are a better golfer, at least 696 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: a better putter than he is. Just make sure it's 697 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: a pretty aggressive question, Danny. 698 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope that's the only time that gets said. 699 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: But you know what, if that's I think I think 700 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: he was just having fun. But if that's the way 701 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: he feels. But it's a good question, I have no 702 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: problem asking it. 703 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, just be careful. You're developing a reputation with a 704 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: brand new coaching set. 705 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 3: Apparently, Yeah, maybe I should be a little more careful. 706 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Hey, A couple of other items around the league. The 707 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: spring league meeting is going on in Minneapolis. A couple 708 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: of things, Danny, Yes or no. Number three emergency quarterback 709 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: is something that this league is going to allow have 710 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: to keep three quarterbacks on your fifty three man roster. 711 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: But if one of those quarterbacks is inactive on the 712 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: inactive list, they can be in uniform. And if quarterback 713 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: one and quarterback two go down to injury, then yes, 714 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: you can pull in that third emergency quarterback. 715 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm in favor of this. This is obviously going 716 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: to change rosters, and right now you're having an extra 717 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 3: spot for quarterback. I think for the Cardinals specifically, it 718 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: makes sense for however many weeks Kyler Murray's out, assuming 719 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 3: that even Cole McCoy is fully healthy, Assuming col McCoy's 720 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 3: going to be your starter. I mean, you don't really 721 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: know right or how healthy he's going to be, or 722 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: how they're going to go out there and play, and 723 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: so I like being able to have the option to 724 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: have a third quarterback. I know the forty nine ers 725 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: are probably very glad about this change. Drop my memory, Craig, 726 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: was it last season or the one before where the 727 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: Cardinals were in a sticky situation and the backup quarterback 728 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 3: was going to they had to go down right? I 729 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: can't think of the game. 730 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson was always the emergency quarterback. 731 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: But it was when he was here, and I'm pretty 732 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: sure it was was it Chase Edmonds who would have 733 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: been the backup quarterback? So I guess i'd have been 734 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: two seasons really ago. 735 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember the exactame, but there was. 736 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 3: A situation where the Cardinals and you're thinking, oh my gosh, 737 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen? So and the Cardinals are not the 738 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 3: only team that I've ever found themselves in that situation, 739 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 3: So I do like this. I think it makes sense. 740 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: I think even though you're now having to keep an 741 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 3: extra roster spot for a quarterback, if you find yourself 742 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: in that situation, you will be happy you did. 743 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: So. Yeah, this goes back to the NFC Championship game 744 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: in the forty nine ers because they lost their two 745 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and they had to scramble and Christian McCaffrey they 746 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: were going to fit his helmet to get that speaker 747 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: in there so he could get the calls from the sideline. 748 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you need to keep three quarterbacks on 749 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: your active roster, on your fifty three. You can't pull 750 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: someone up from the practice squad as an emergency. They 751 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: have to be on the fifty three man roster. This 752 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: does not Elevations from the practice squad to the active 753 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: roster on that Friday or Saturday do not count. 754 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 3: Now, in a situation where if Kyler Murrius comes back 755 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 3: and you have him and call McCoy and you have 756 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: to make an elevation earlier in the week like that, 757 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: that's still an option, right. You can make some roster 758 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: changes and bring a quarterback up if you need to. 759 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: But I do think this makes sense for the long 760 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: haul of the league. 761 00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: Flexible scheduling on Thursday Night Football Boo approved weeks thirteen 762 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: to seventeen. Twenty eight day notice is required in a 763 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: maximum of two flexes per season. So this is something 764 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: that I know there were owners that very vocal. John 765 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Marraw the New York Giants did not like it, The 766 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: Raiders too. Yeah, this is something that obviously with players, 767 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: but it's also fans. But before that, the difference here 768 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: is the twenty eight day notice as opposed to I 769 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: believe it was a week or ten days, fifteen fifteen, 770 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: two weeks. 771 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: I mean twenty eight days is makes more sense. But 772 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: the argument, which is something that I agree with, is 773 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: you still have to consider the fans, I mean, not 774 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 3: even counting in the player safety of those shorter weeks. 775 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 3: If you're a fan and you bought a ticket to 776 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: a Thursday night game and you are paying to travel 777 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: and for lodging and for your ticket and all this 778 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: other stuff, in two weeks, they say, oh, actually the 779 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: game's now Sunday. What are you supposed to do? Like, 780 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: how does that make the experience of the NFL enjoyable 781 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: for fans to continue to want to travel and pay 782 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 3: for tickets and do all of those experiences. So I 783 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: like that it's twenty eight days. I don't know. The 784 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 3: change is still like weird to me, of like being 785 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 3: able to flex and the fact that not every team, 786 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 3: including the Cardinals, has a primetime game, like the fact 787 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 3: that not everyone's guaranteed a Thursday or Monday game like that, 788 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 3: that is still just kind of weird to me, But 789 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 3: I like that. I guess it's at least twenty eight 790 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: days notice to flex a Thursday night game. 791 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: I thought the big adjustment this year was going to 792 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: be the flexible scheduling for Monday night football. Now you 793 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: got that plus Thursday Night football as well. Again, we'll 794 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: see how often it gets used. If it gets used, 795 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: it all depends on that particular week's schedule. But yeah, 796 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: you do need time to prepare not only the players 797 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: but the fans as well when you're going to a 798 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: Thursday night game or Sunday game. To your point, all 799 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden, wait a second, it's four days earlier. Now, 800 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that that's hotel, that's airfare. 801 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: It's all money. Tag, it's all money and and every 802 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: network wanting the best game possible. 803 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: And you are money. Danny Sirek Craig. 804 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: Let's clip that out. Let's not only clip what I 805 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: say to use in the radio broadcast during the season, 806 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 3: but let's clip that out. 807 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: And put in the open a better golfer than Xavi 808 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: and Collins and now a very aggressive question questionnaire, questionnaire, 809 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: question asker question. 810 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 3: Apparently that's fine. I could have been called worst. 811 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: I'll just look on that note. We will put a 812 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai, 813 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to 814 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: our executive producer jim Mo Monro for Danny Serek, I'm 815 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here 816 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two