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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm I'm Bridger Wine Gert,

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Speaker 3: the loudest man in podcasting. I'm so excited to have

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Speaker 3: Very little is going on in my life. There's almost

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Speaker 3: So I don't have anything to tell you, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: John, Oh my gosh, fridgeir.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gift. It's so nice to

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Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled. I'm such a fan of the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a fan of you, I'm a fan of

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Speaker 3: John, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty well. I just got back from a

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Speaker 3: We don't need to give them any more press.

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Speaker 3: People will go nuts for it. Look at this dad skating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, get the Grandberry juice. Yeah, take the Grandberry juice

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Speaker 2: No? I think like like you kind of said, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keep things like all completely pushed into that one

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Speaker 3: At that point, I'll just allow my body will just

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Speaker 3: The problem is is you have to find like, I

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Speaker 2: I know. Just work with the nice long haired, laid

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Speaker 3: You know, you know you knew about this podcast before

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Speaker 3: First I just want to say, John, I hate this bag.

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Speaker 2: Well, Richard, I mean you've cut right to the bottom

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Speaker 2: But these are the moments we're creating magic here, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the the one mistake I think you're making

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Speaker 2: So there's an energy, there's a certain energy that will

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Speaker 3: My voice will be hoarse from screaming, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Just do that for a moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, so I'm going to get into this bag.

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Speaker 3: There are two things in here. It looks like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Is there a you have no idea what which is which?

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Speaker 3: So I'll open this first one here. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: Bad retailer of some.

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Speaker 3: Mominpop dot com.

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Speaker 2: Local local business dot org, go on.

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Speaker 3: This is okay? So it's a trash stash car trash

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've I've worked with this all right, I've

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Speaker 2: I think people don't have these in their cars that much.

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Speaker 3: put a lot of stuff in your car you're driving

437
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: things around. I did that for about four years. My

438
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: car essentially became an extremely fast garbage can. I just

439
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: trash everywhere at all times. And also, you know, there

440
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: were also various I'm sure psychological issues this kind of thing,

441
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: just being like, you don't deserve a clean car at any.

442
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: Point, right right, You're making the car reflect your inner

443
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: self from one of the car to look like you felt.

444
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: So my car was absolutely full of trash. And then

445
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 3: I entered my current relationship Jim was not having any

446
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: of that. I love it the car. And then I

447
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: sold that car, so I had to. I think I

448
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: cleaned it once when I sold it.

449
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: That's nice. Oh too, you sold it to a cellar,

450
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: so you sold it to be presentable, right right right,

451
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: got it, got.

452
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: A new car in the last few years, kept it

453
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: clean up until a year ago, which you know, pandemic

454
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: companies whiltzting.

455
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Around making the car look the way you feel.

456
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: Once again, Well, I'm eating in the car a lot

457
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: you know, the big treat is to go get food

458
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: at a restaurant and sit in the car and eat

459
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: it rather than eat it at home. So there the

460
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: glove box is just essentially a bursting with napkins. There's trash.

461
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: So I'm feeling like you're setting me up to absolutely

462
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: nail it with this gift. This story.

463
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: This is a godsend.

464
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: It's like, I just feel like I had a car

465
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: and I got a new car, right and when I

466
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 2: went for my old car, which had a trash bag

467
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: in it, to my new car, which briefly did, and

468
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: I felt completely lost. I didn't know what to do anymore.

469
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: It's like everybody should have a trash bag in their car.

470
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: It's just so obvious. I mean, are you not making

471
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: trash there? I feel like we are. You know, it's

472
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: and so this one is you know, you clip it

473
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: to the side of the passenger seat. It hangs over

474
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: the back of the passengers seat.

475
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: I love that.

476
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: So you kind of get to do a cool guy

477
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: stretch to throw stuff away, as if you were stretching

478
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 2: your arm around. You know, your your this is a

479
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: great movie theater, your your your boy or gal, and

480
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: you know now you just dunk it right in the trash.

481
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: I think. I'm just like so thrilled to hear that

482
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: you don't already have one.

483
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I certainly don't, and this is truly going to

484
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: turn everything around for me. This is incredible. I mean

485
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: both of my what is the little side pocket what

486
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: are those called? Technically?

487
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Cigarette hole? Who knows?

488
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Ciga? Cigarette holes? Absolutely full of trash. My middle thing

489
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: full of trash. The floor there's garbage.

490
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like when I don't have one of these,

491
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: if a cup comes into my car, a can comes

492
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: into my car, that becomes the trash can, and I'm

493
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: like taking the paper wrapper on a straw and stuffing

494
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: it into the tiny hole on a coke bottle, cutting

495
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: my finger. Who knows, Like now, yeah, I mean this

496
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: trash can bridger. It's not big. Not a lot of

497
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: trash fits in.

498
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: That's good though, but it's a rotting Once it frews up,

499
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: you've got to empty it.

500
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: I would not go organic in this one. If you

501
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: organic trash, apple cors go out the window. Still orange

502
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: peels maybe can go in this.

503
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to fill it with things that are decomposing

504
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: and fill my garden with it later.

505
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, compost the back of my car. Yeah.

506
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you I looked at other you know,

507
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: I was on this small time online retailer, you know,

508
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: looking at the options, and I looked at some other ones.

509
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: This one is not the most highly reviewed, but it's

510
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: the one I have.

511
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then a trusted friend has used it.

512
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to. I had to make the call

513
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: of you know, maybe since I bought my garbage can,

514
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: there have been developments in the field and new ones

515
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: have come in with new technologies. But I know that

516
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: mine works, so so you have it now. And I've

517
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: actually gotten it as a gift twice before. But you've

518
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: gotten it, someone's given it. This isn't a fantastic gift

519
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: because no one owns these and everyone can use them.

520
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: Why don't people have these things? It's like, I'll tell

521
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: you the place where I found out about them was

522
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: driving in a car with my friend and he had

523
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: one in his car, and I thought, this is great.

524
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: I said, man, that's great. I should really have one

525
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: of those. He said, yeah, it's my mom's car. Only mom's.

526
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Only moms have this knowledge of car garbage cans. And

527
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: I want to spread it.

528
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I almost feel like car manufacturers should I

529
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: mean it should be built into the car.

530
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: I think they wanted to buy a new car instead.

531
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: You know, your Carmel's up with your ash and then

532
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: you have to.

533
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 3: Turn it in well, and I guess there's like it's

534
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: a hard selling point. Oh, like Honda doesn't want to

535
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: say built in trash. Can that doesn't sound sexy or appealing,

536
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: or like that's not in a car commercial. You don't

537
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: want to hear the announcer saying built in garbage.

538
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: I bet like Elon Musk could make one that like

539
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: it has a sound effect of like an explosion when

540
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: you put the trash in, or it says like Kobe

541
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: or something. They would have a high tech spin on this.

542
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: I feel like he would build in like an incinerator.

543
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: I feel like a Tesla could have a built in it.

544
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Just burns your trash. Yes, I think that's right on.

545
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: You know this feature of Tesla's where they have like

546
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: a fart sound effect that comes out of the chairs

547
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: you're sitting. I've never driven in a Tesla. I'm not

548
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: the right I'm not the expert, but I know that

549
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: like part of Tesla's thing is like, oh, you can

550
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 2: make the lights flash in certain sequence. There's like all

551
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: these different fun modes and yeah, so one of them

552
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: is the you can do whoope cushions and your friends.

553
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't support that in any way. It's a horrible idea.

554
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: I agree, a literal clown car. It's just it's kind

555
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: of sad that, like the good electric car that's actually

556
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: like not outrageously expensive. Now, I guess you can get

557
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: a Tesla for like, you know, the price of a

558
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: nice car. But it's kind of too bad that the

559
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: elon stink is all over.

560
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: These Yes, each of them's built by a jackass. Although

561
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 3: I was talking to a friend about this recently, and

562
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: I have this almost visceral reaction to him and his

563
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: company because he's just makes such an ass of himself

564
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: all the time. But then I don't know anything about

565
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Ford or Chevy or any of these companies. I have

566
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: no opinion on them.

567
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, so I yeah.

568
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because they the power of these companies is

569
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 3: spread out among various people, whereas a Tesla it's just

570
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: this one idiot.

571
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Although who knows. I mean, I do feel like he

572
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: is the most visible guy, but they're they're like, does

573
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: he is he involved in the decision that are being

574
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: made other than like memes all the time? Yeah, he

575
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: made that. The other funny guy is John Lagier. I

576
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: think the T Mobile ceo do you know, I definitely

577
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: even know he's really funny. He's not the CEO of

578
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: T Mobile anymore, but he is very big on social media,

579
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: wears pink all the time the T Mobile color like

580
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: has like a very long haircut. But but is uh,

581
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, is grown up, so it looks you know,

582
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: it's the kind of aging rock star look sure. Yeah. Yeah.

583
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: To be a CEO of a fortune five hundred company

584
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: and decide I want the brand to be me being silly,

585
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: it's like unbelievable.

586
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: I guess it's like maybe the godfather of this is

587
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: Richard Branson.

588
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Is that Yeah? That feels right?

589
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: Is he still alive?

590
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean he's the by the way, he's the jet

591
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: ski king. I feel like, if you want a snowmobile

592
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: or jet ski or ride a motorcycle, like, call sir

593
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Richard because he has all the toys, right.

594
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: He seems like a good time. I feel like he

595
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: would probably make you feel very uncomfortable. He seems like

596
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: the sort of person that just expects you to have

597
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: fun at all times with him.

598
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe that. Do you remember, like

599
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: soon after Obama was no longer president, there were pictures

600
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: of him like waterskiing with Brandson, per hang gliding or

601
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: something like that. It's just so fun to think, like,

602
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: you become president, you're done. You want to figure out

603
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: how to spend your time, and like Richard Branson is

604
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: just in your voicemail or whatever, like come play around

605
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: with my toys.

606
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a very aggressive uncle energy there that

607
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: I don't know time I've Richard Branson when I was

608
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: working as a production it's just an At some point

609
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: I think I had to carry his luggage from his

610
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: helicopter and it had no interaction with him whatsoever. But

611
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: that was I remember the helicopter landing and then the

612
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: luggage coming out, And that was my experience with Richard Branson.

613
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: So so you knew that somewhere in the helicopter he

614
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: was sitting there, you know, maybe flipping through a catalog

615
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: of fun things to buy.

616
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: Bounce houses. Yeah, okay, this trash bag is fantastic. I mean,

617
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's like every fifth guest on this podcast

618
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: brings something that's just like a life changing. It's utilitarian,

619
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: yeah right, which is so wonderful and so I can't.

620
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm also looking at it's leakproof, and the image they

621
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: have on it is a person literally pouring juice into

622
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: the into the garbage can, which feels like a weird move.

623
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: One funny thing about these is they're always advertised as

624
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: like since they're sealed up, a lot of these garbage

625
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: cans in the car are advertised as like it can

626
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: be a garbage can, or you put an ice pack

627
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: and a couple of soda and then there, all of

628
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's cooler. It's like, I don't have put

629
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: my food in the garbage, Like, what are you talking about?

630
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: Throw a couple of hogies in your garbage?

631
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just eat out of the garbage at the beach,

632
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Like what could be better?

633
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh all right, let's get into whatever else is happening here,

634
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: because we do need to see what is next now

635
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: this Okay, I keep worrying that I'm not gonna be

636
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: able to open these packages, but I think I should

637
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: be able to.

638
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: There we go, nice ASMR again.

639
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: Dive into oh this is double package, so we're getting

640
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: every type of sound you could.

641
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: Possibly at them.

642
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

643
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: I told them to be very safe with this one.

644
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: As many packs as possible full of black pepper or something.

645
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: It's just gonna boil in my face.

646
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: Let's see.

647
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh, so this is kind.

648
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: Of a wh I smelled it before I got it, John,

649
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in my car? I feel like

650
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: this is I never have.

651
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: So this was the compliment gift to the first gift.

652
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: The first gift is the headline. But yeah, please please

653
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: tell the listeners You've.

654
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: Given me several air fresheners. I've gotten a Royal Pine,

655
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: a new car, sent black ice, rainforest miss and bayside

656
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: breeze at The smell of these combined is not as

657
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: confusing as you would imagine.

658
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Wow, you have a very good nose. Your nose is

659
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: like the twenty twenty vision. But for smelling.

660
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: I was just having this argument with Jimmy was telling

661
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: me that I can't smell anything. But huh, I think

662
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: I've just proven him very hard.

663
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Have him listened to this show? Yeah? Or use these

664
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: nude gifts to, you know, prove yourself in some sort

665
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: of demonstration.

666
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna smell each I'm trying to

667
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: determine where the actual smell is coming from.

668
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit confused that you can even smell

669
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: them through the These are like the classic trees, right.

670
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: I love that. I love a tree, me too, me too, you.

671
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Know what I don't. It's very interesting because individually you

672
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: can't smell these, but they've been wrapped up in this

673
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: little thing, and I think the scent just managed to

674
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: make it out into the thing. And now, oh, okay,

675
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: I just smelled royal pine. But now you know what

676
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm smelling is the scratcher. I think there's a scratcher

677
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: on the front.

678
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably what the smell of the bag too.

679
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: Now that makes sense. I was of smell escaped from

680
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: the newly sealed I thought, maybe you know, these had

681
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: been stuffed back in the bag by some rascal.

682
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: These are pre postman could smell them, and they open

683
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: it up for a little taste of his own. Do

684
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: you do you use a car freshener in your car?

685
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: I do, and and so yeah, I mean I got

686
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: the car trash bag. I thought this would be a

687
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: fun compliment. And I'll tell you that I love the trees.

688
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: And I recently went into to write eight and tried

689
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: to get you know, you assume that basically every store

690
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: is going to have the tree. You know, usually it's

691
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: like black black ice or new car smell, those are

692
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: common ones. But they didn't have it. So I got

693
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: one of the like oil pods they put on your

694
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: air conditioner thing.

695
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 3: That's right.

696
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was so much worse. It like, I

697
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 2: immediately took it out. It suck.

698
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: You're getting blasted with that, right, Yeah you don't.

699
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't need to, Like, I just want a reminder

700
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: that my car smells good. I don't want the whole

701
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: driving experience to feel like, you know, I'm trapped in

702
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: a smell.

703
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: You don't want to smell like your car after you

704
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: get out of it.

705
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's funny I store, I took this

706
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: pot out. I don't am bad at throwing things away.

707
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: I can't like say I don't want this, I'm gonna

708
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: throw it away. I'm always like, maybe I'll want to later.

709
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: So I have it in a little I have a

710
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: little box where I keep my masks, and so now

711
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: my masks are like poisoning me with car smells. Whenever

712
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: I put them on it. It's so I just wanted

713
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: to prevent you from from having that fate.

714
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want one of those. And I don't

715
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: like the ones that are like a little cat food

716
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 3: can do you know those ones?

717
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

718
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that you put in the car in

719
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: the well? Here's the thing. These usually go in the

720
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: cup holder, right, that's like the.

721
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Place these go. Oh, the cat food can once go

722
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: in a cat holder.

723
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they much right, which your cup holders now are

724
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: going to be beautifully empty because you have the car

725
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: car trash can. So maybe you know, who knows, maybe

726
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: you will decide later on that you want the cat food.

727
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: Those ones. I have a very you know, my my

728
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: feeling anytime I see one of those that I just

729
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: imagine wet fish or dog food or whatever, and it's

730
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 3: a confus It sends so many confusing signals to my brain.

731
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: I feel like, what are they full of gel or

732
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: slime or I mean, you know, scented meat. I don't know.

733
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about the oil pod ones

734
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: and generally about diffusers, Like I love candles, I love incense, right,

735
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: smell great, But a diffuser, I don't know, it just

736
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: is weird to think of the oil. I don't like

737
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: the oil as a smell.

738
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: Right, the essential oil, the whole essential oils industry is

739
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: a little there's a lot of stuff going on there

740
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: that I don't trust.

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: Yes, where are they getting the oil? Yeah?

742
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: So, and what is the oil doing once it gets

743
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: into my lungs? And I don't need that blasting out

744
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: of my air conditioner. And then also I feel like

745
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: if you turn on the heat, you're getting the hot smell.

746
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point.

747
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I've never it doesn't sound good.

748
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: I just kind of feel like we cracked it with

749
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: the trees. Like the things that hang they look cool,

750
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: they smell great. It's not overpowering. You can do that

751
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: thing where you and it's what you're instructed to do

752
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: on the bag. You like cut the bag from the

753
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: top and then slide it down to reveal more of the.

754
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: Oh, kind of slowly undressing the tree.

755
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Yes, but I feel like that's if you're really that's

756
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: like depression era. It's a Frair freshenery treatment, Like you know,

757
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: this is why I got you six. So you can

758
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: kind of feel like, just put it in there, get

759
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: the full blast and then switch it out when I.

760
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: Think that's like when these were person invented, they were

761
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: probably each eighty dollars. Yeah, right, and now you know

762
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: it's just how much does an air freshener cost? Let

763
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: me try to guess. This feels prices right to me.

764
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess it's like three dollars. Well, here's what

765
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: I think. Are you asking how much I paid for

766
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: the ones that I got for you? I want to

767
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: just hear it no, because I feel like that's a

768
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: little ghost.

769
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: It's a little ghost.

770
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: I mean I did.

771
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: I did pick these air Freshness, you know, because they're

772
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: the best so well, price didn't enter into the equation.

773
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to figure out what someone would pay

774
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: for an air freshener. I'm going to say I don't

775
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: want to get it wrong because I do want to

776
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: be correct, but I feel like the value you're getting

777
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: like a twelve dollars value. But I can't imagine someone's

778
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 3: paying twelve dollars for one of these, and it feels

779
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: like a three dollars thing.

780
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you can. Really this is an

781
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: example of they will determine your need and I can

782
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: knick you off. You know if you're in the right aid,

783
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: like and it's just the one air freshener without others,

784
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: you know that they know that you really need the

785
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: single package air freshener, and they'll they'll they'll charge you

786
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: five dollars.

787
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: Charge you whatever they want because they know you're sick

788
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: and they know you're weak and you need these things.

789
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: But I think, like, if you're at maybe the autos,

790
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: like I don't know where you would get a good

791
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: value on them, but if you buy But what I'm

792
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: trying to say is if you buy them in bulk,

793
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: if you buy them with mindfulness, you can get a

794
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: good a good price. But if you're if you're buying

795
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: them impulsively, you can get really royally screwed.

796
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: Really ripped off. Yeah, this is making me think something

797
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: I've never spoken to anyone about before. This is not

798
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: a personal issue, So I don't know why I'm bringing.

799
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: It up like this.

800
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: But why do you have any idea why at a

801
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: car wash they sell greeting cards? Why is that a thing?

802
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: Is that universally true as in my personal experience? And

803
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for the listener or for you,

804
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: but I feel like every time I met, like, you know,

805
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: a car washer where you get out of the car

806
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 3: and then they drive it through the tunnel.

807
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: I'm being presented with greeting cards. Maybe it's because they

808
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: know you have idle time. That's like, you know, they

809
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: just want you to do another errand and keep you

810
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: in the in the seats, keep feeding you that good,

811
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: good powdered coffee that they have there. And yeah, personally,

812
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: I like, I don't want to change the subject, but

813
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't go to those sit down car washes all

814
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: that much.

815
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: Right where are you?

816
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I go to the self spray.

817
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: The self spray.

818
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: It's a blast. It's like, I have so much fun.

819
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: Do you get that giant gun?

820
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? I mean, like sure, I don't think that

821
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: the value there is even very good because you end

822
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: up paying like eight dollars and you don't do as

823
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: good a clean on your car as you would if if,

824
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: even if you drove through the tunnel, right, you know,

825
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: the automated one. But it's fun and you need to

826
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: feel like a you know, you feel like a young

827
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: spirit and you know you feel sexy. What can I say?

828
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: You know, you're just you're wet. You're having fun, like

829
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: it's just a good time.

830
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: You're in your bikini.

831
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, California, the sun's shining.

832
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: You want surfing Safari. I do like the kickback of

833
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 3: that gun that you get to blast your car with

834
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: and you really feel like you're just giving it to

835
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: your car while you're doing it. And you get to

836
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: use the giant brush. Yeah, but there's the panic. It's

837
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: you know, feeding the machine, it's the quarters. You're like,

838
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm running out of time. Have I used this part enough?

839
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

840
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: Luckily a lot of them do use the credit card now.

841
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: But I actually like that. The panic element is kind

842
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 2: of part of the appeal for me. It's you feel

843
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: like you're on a pit crew and it's a NASCAR

844
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: race and you got to wash that car as fast

845
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: as possible so the driver can win the race. I've

846
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: never seen NASCAR, but I assume that that's what they're doing.

847
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: Feels right, Yeah, I feel like part of NASCAR, the

848
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: pit crew should always have to do a highly detailed

849
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: cleaning job each time around the track.

850
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah right. People aren't watching the show to see when

851
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: you're dirty, Josh Joe Oppi's you know, farting down the track.

852
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: They want they want to clean stuff.

853
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, I occasionally go to one where

854
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: that you get out of the car then it gets

855
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: dragged through the machine. But my preference is the one

856
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: where you sit in the car and it drags you

857
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: through and then you're getting like the lava.

858
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: You know.

859
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: These these are like the last bastion of maximalism in America.

860
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: I feel like we're all there's like lights flashing, there's

861
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: colored soap blasting down on your car. I find it

862
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: very exciting. And the tackiness and the absurdity of the

863
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: car wash is one thing that minimalism has not gotten to.

864
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need like a bone a petite car wash,

865
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: curated experience. Yeah, mid century soap, I'm not sure.

866
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: All polished wood and concrete, that sort of thing. No,

867
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: if that ever happens, joy will be finally dead. I

868
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: need a car wash that feels like I'm going through

869
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: a laser tag arena, that kind of thing.

870
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's you feel the child childish wonder in

871
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: those spaces designing these things. I think it's money to

872
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: the ones that are like clearly a modular order from

873
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: a catalog type of car wash, you know what I mean.

874
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: Like often attached to a gas station. Right. Sometimes it's

875
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: like in these ones, your car stays still and the

876
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: cage of soap moves around right like machine and that

877
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: that you know, it feels like it's trying to recreate

878
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: the experience of the ones where you're getting pulled through

879
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: the track. Right. It doesn't, it doesn't come close.

880
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: I need to feel the roller coaster, the world's slowest

881
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: roller coaster, pulling me through towards the giant brushes those

882
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 3: what are those giant tentacles that kind of just wave.

883
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: Around so wonderful.

884
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have to feel one of those just

885
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: slap against my face.

886
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: That's that, honestly, is the newest millennial innovation. If they

887
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: can do an airbnb that's car wash themed and the

888
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: shower is like a car wash with blacks dragging all

889
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: over you, yeah, I would pay for that. I would

890
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: buy a group on.

891
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 3: What air freshener do you currently have in your car?

892
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Well, after the chemical one, the oil pod got thrown out,

893
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: I should out of luck and and so I have nothing,

894
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: but but the one I had before was I was

895
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: with my family in Idle Wild and we went to

896
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: ah there's like a nursery there and in the nursery,

897
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: which is very cool in Idlewild that recommend you visit.

898
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: Lovely there's a like an airstream in the back that

899
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: has a lot of National Park themed gifts. And my

900
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: family and I were also we think of ourselves as

901
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: such outdoorsy people, we got suckered in by the National

902
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: Park air fresheners we were we were paying now that

903
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: in that time we were paying eight dollars for the

904
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: air fresheners for individual ones. That's a lot of money

905
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: just because they were themed.

906
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: It was like, how are they shaped?

907
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: They were shaped like tents and bears and moose.

908
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: That sounds adorable.

909
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: They were gorgeous and and the sense were very cool.

910
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, more like it's like tobacco

911
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: type or like you know, like these kind of car yes, yeah, right,

912
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: but they didn't smell that strongly. Oh okay, I.

913
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: Mean I think you know that's kind of the trend

914
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: in sense is you want to really subtle?

915
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: What is it?

916
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: Is it peturely?

917
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: Yes?

918
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: Petrurely? Pet I don't know. I think it's like a

919
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: seventies I think like guys in the seventies used it

920
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: as like cologne. I don't know what are we talking about?

921
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: What is the object in the real world. I can't

922
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: even visualize what that would be.

923
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, and I don't want to know.

924
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: But but yeah, the last air Fisher was like shaped

925
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: like a tent, which is to be trying to project

926
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: this image of a guy who likes to go outside.

927
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: That's how I want the word.

928
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: But I don't feel like you're projecting that image. You're

929
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: really that person. I know for a fact you went

930
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: on a high class night.

931
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

932
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: And like hiking, you're the one person I can count

933
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: on to hike.

934
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: I love to hike. Yeah, yeah, I I know, but

935
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's also it's it's a chosen identity

936
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: in a way, isn't it, though Bridger aren't don't we

937
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: all wear a mask? I don't know. My mask is

938
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: a hiker's hat and yeah so, but yeah, we have

939
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: had fun on our night.

940
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: I love night hikes are new to my life, and

941
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 3: they feel slightly dangerous. They feel slightly like you're trust passing. Yeah,

942
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: they're quiet sometimes you are, sometimes you are, and that's fine.

943
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Trustpassing is great.

944
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there last night, so I will blow

945
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: up the spot here and say it's Griffith Park in

946
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: Los Angeles and you can go at night and it's

947
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: such fun. I recommend all the LA listeners try it out,

948
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: but maybe not on Friday because that's when me and

949
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: my friends tend to go and we like the sol dude.

950
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, as it closes at ten, and then

951
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: there will be park rangers telling you or you know,

952
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: park staff telling you you at ten get out of

953
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: the park. But the joke's kind of on them because

954
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: getting out of the park is what you came here

955
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: to do. You came to walk around the park, So

956
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: I'm not yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, if you're at

957
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: the top of the mountain and they tell you to

958
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: get out, that's what you were going to do anyways.

959
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a perfect crime in that sense.

960
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: Have you have you had a park ranger come up

961
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: to you? I know we haven't had. During our various

962
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: night hikes, we have not been harassed yet.

963
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: This was yeah, someone in a truck. Did you know?

964
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: This was by the observatory, which is sort of the

965
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: more high exposure area, right, That's where that's where you

966
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: can really you really have to watch your back and

967
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: somebody did kind of poke his head up to the

968
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: window of his truck and say, please leave. But that

969
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: was that was the extent of it.

970
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Before we you know, before we move on, I do

971
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: want to ask about black ice. That's the one thing

972
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: I need to know. What is the black ice smell?

973
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: I think black ice is like, that's the masculine scent

974
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: if you're a guy again, that meaning, well, you know,

975
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 2: it's funny like so I think it's like a picture

976
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: men's cologne. That's I think what Matt black eyes smells like. Okay,

977
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: but as I was shopping for air fresheners, I always

978
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: thought black ice was the de facto masculine guy air freshener.

979
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: If you know, if you don't want bubblegum or a strawberry, say,

980
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: but there's also one that's like by this Tree brand

981
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: that's like steel and the image sprinted on the tree

982
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: is like a steel grade or something like that.

983
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that sounds completely unappealing.

984
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: How does this company have such a complete stranglehold on

985
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: the market, Like this Tree company with a yellow label

986
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: is just they have it.

987
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't tell you another brand of car air

988
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 3: freshener outside of the wet cat food thing. But as

989
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 3: far as the dangling ones.

990
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: Forget it.

991
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know that needs to be disrupted

992
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: by by it, you know, very millennials or what have you.

993
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: I want yea subscription scented. Oh that's a great idea,

994
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 2: which they send you a new one and it's like, yeah,

995
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 2: it's kind of more low key sense.

996
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: Right, new one every month for seventy dollars. Yeah, that

997
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: feels like a thing that's just ready to happen. That's

998
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: a shark tank pitch. That's part of what this podcast is.

999
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: It's just thinking of new shark tank pitches.

1000
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: I feel like and have any gone to the tank? Yet?

1001
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: None of gone to the tank. I'm sending these ideas

1002
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: out to listeners kind of just you know, take it,

1003
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: take it to the tank and see what happens than

1004
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: I sue, And so that's a new one that you

1005
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: John can take to the tank, a listener can take

1006
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: to the tank. I don't have the willpower. I can

1007
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: barely do anything that I'm interested in. Let alone and

1008
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: invent a new product.

1009
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: Right, yes, starting a business right that's.

1010
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: Not for me?

1011
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: That can happen.

1012
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 3: I would like to get on the tank. At some point,

1013
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to do any of the pitching. I

1014
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: feel like there's yelling there.

1015
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: I think, I like, I think any team that already

1016
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: has a product, idea pitch that's ready to go to

1017
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: kind of bring you in as sort of the is

1018
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: maybe the silent partner, you know, just sort of projecting

1019
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: confidence in the products from the stage.

1020
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: I want to be the third person in the pitch,

1021
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: and my only line is I'm just here to meet

1022
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: Barb and right, I have nothing to do with this

1023
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: product outside of wanting to say hello to Robert. That

1024
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: kind of thing.

1025
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: I would definitely tune in John.

1026
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: Let's move on. It's time to play a game. We've

1027
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: got to play a game. Do you want to play

1028
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: Gift Master or Gift or a Curse?

1029
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: For me, the answer couldn't be more obvious. It's got

1030
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: to be Gift a Curse. And although both games are great,

1031
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: but I just I really want to I feel like

1032
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: Gift or a Curse. I mean, the listeners know it's

1033
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: the one game where you really get to kind of

1034
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: compete with Bridger himself. The other game that is not

1035
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: as so combative, So I prefer I'd prefer to really

1036
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: get get real and raw.

1037
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Well, this is going to get nasty. I've held myself

1038
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: together as long as I can on this podcast, and

1039
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: now this is the part where you and I are

1040
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: going to really butt heads and there's chance that there

1041
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: will be some screaming, hurt feelings just forgiven words.

1042
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: Yes, you will step in everything. Okay, they'll maybe come to.

1043
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: My house, Okay, gift or a curse it is. People

1044
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: have become very active on the Instagram, of course, listener.

1045
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: You can come and you know, you post it, post

1046
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: it to your stories, and then everybody votes on it.

1047
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: And that's also I'm getting a lot of people saying

1048
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: angry things at me, and I'm saying, you know what,

1049
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: I'm just reposting these people's stories. These aren't even my

1050
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: suggestions at this point. These are unauthorized, are authorized, sanctioned events.

1051
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm just bringing them forward to be voted on. So

1052
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: leave me, b Maybe it's just the con of this

1053
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: game gets everybody hot, gets everybody bothered. Okay, John, I

1054
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: need a number between one and ten from you.

1055
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: Three three.

1056
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: I like a low number. Okay. You know, right now,

1057
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 3: you have to promote something, you have to recommend something,

1058
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: you have to do whatever you want. While I go

1059
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: and calculate, I'll be right back.

1060
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Well, I'm so thrilled to be here and

1061
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: have this time with the listeners. I would like to promote,

1062
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: first of all, check me out online Twitter dot com

1063
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: at Jmilstein. That is a fun space. I work on

1064
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 2: a podcast called What a Day from Cricket Media. Tune

1065
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: in and it's a news podcast. You can get sort

1066
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: of a twenty minute digest all the things you need

1067
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: to know, nothing that you don't. Also, I'd like to

1068
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: recommend the app Canopy. It's the LA Public Library or

1069
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: any public library can use this streaming service to give

1070
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: you the movies that you want, nothing that you don't.

1071
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: Just like my podcast, and it's a little more intellectual

1072
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: than Netflix. And I'll leave it at that. John, It's free. Excellent.

1073
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: You're You've had a whole range of types of promotions there.

1074
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: I mean, my big promotion for you listener, Go find

1075
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: John anywhere you can on the internet. He posts videos

1076
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: that are maybe the absolute cream of the crop. A

1077
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: very funny person we're dealing with here. Find him on

1078
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: the internet. And yeah, excellent use of that time and Canopy.

1079
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: You're you're doing a public service here.

1080
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: It's so great.

1081
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: You believe Canopy to me? Right, it's great. Yes, it's

1082
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: like you know, it's not just you know whatever trash

1083
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: streaming company has you know, sanctioned. Yeah, dumped out. It's

1084
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: like you're going to the library and getting some good choices.

1085
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of a twenty four movies on there. Great.

1086
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: I love that Alex Gibney documentaries. Oh that's my favorite

1087
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: place to dive in. Okay, yeah, on Canopy. I just

1088
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.

1089
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 3: Okay, excellent. But enough, it's time to play the Gift

1090
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna

1091
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: tell me if it's a gift or a curse?

1092
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 2: And why?

1093
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: And there? You know, John, you know this. There are

1094
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: correct answers, there are wrong answers. The chance of you

1095
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: just falling flat on your face is, i mean higher

1096
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 3: than ever. So I just want you to be careful. Okay.

1097
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: I feel good. I feel I'm going to come into

1098
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: this game with a ton of confidence and I'm.

1099
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 3: Gonna tell you to do I will win, okay, John.

1100
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: Number one, This is a listener suggests suggestion gift or

1101
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: a curse? Opening bands. The bands that open the concert,

1102
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: the band that play before the other bands at the concert.

1103
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: I am going to say, and this is not if

1104
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: you're a musician, I don't want this to make you

1105
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: feel defeated. But for me, it's a curse. You know,

1106
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: typically the band you want to see plays for a

1107
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: half hour to an hour. That's the amount of energy

1108
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: that you probably have in the night to be very

1109
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: invested in music, and you know, you want to be

1110
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: a supportive audience member. You don't want to feel like

1111
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: you missed the opening band. But ultimately it's more of

1112
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: an exercise and support for the most part than it

1113
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: is in enjoyment. And that's why I will say that

1114
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: it's a curse.

1115
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: John, you came into this game with an enormous amount

1116
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: of confidence and it's failed you. It's like I think

1117
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: that opening bands are a gift. I mean, right out

1118
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: of the gate, you've failed. Look, it gives let's say,

1119
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: worst case scenario, it's a horrible band. Usually it almost

1120
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: always is. It gives everybody something to complain about and

1121
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 3: talk to discuss. It's a memorable experience. It's this nice

1122
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 3: buffer when you can kind of just be with friends,

1123
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: figuring out the venue, space. Oh wow. Best case scenario,

1124
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 3: you find a new band you like to listen to.

1125
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: See. I knew you were a lover of music, but

1126
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: I also know that you are a guy who has

1127
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: particular tastes, and I would have thought I'm approaching this

1128
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: game from the completely right angle. And you know, I

1129
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: did speak my truth. I do believe what I said.

1130
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: I stand by it.

1131
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: Look, I understand your look. I see where you're coming from.

1132
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: All that said, you're wrong. You've answered incorrectly, which is

1133
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: a strike against you, not only as a game player,

1134
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: but as a person.

1135
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: And right well, I've also exposed myself as a ya

1136
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 2: not a patron of the arts. It's sort of a cop.

1137
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm sort of the resident cop on the show.

1138
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: At this point, we've brought in an arc and I

1139
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: don't even know what to tell on anyone anymore. I

1140
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: don't even know if I'm a march forward with the game. Okay, look,

1141
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: a lot of opening bands are terrible, but I'm saying

1142
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: Gift John has zero so far, and that's fine.

1143
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes they I know that sometimes you tend to add

1144
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: an extra round in this game, sort of a person

1145
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: who's missed the first one back an opportunity to get

1146
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: three out of three. But we'll see if that happens

1147
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: or not. I'm not sure if it will happen.

1148
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: All right, John, Okay, second up? Okay, And you know

1149
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: I can occasionally struggle here and that's fine. Everyone has

1150
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: is patient with me, and they're okay with me.

1151
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: Doing this is he's doing minority report type gestures, multiple

1152
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: touch screens around in front.

1153
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: Of Tom Cruise trying to solve a pre crime. I

1154
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: have actually lost the next one. This is what the

1155
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: listener loves. They love to listen to me just kind

1156
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: of scroll through a Google doc. That's what keeps people

1157
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: coming back to this podcast. Oh, okay, gift or a curse?

1158
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: This is also a listener suggestion. And this is from

1159
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: somebody named Lizzie Gifter a curse. Dry brushing your body

1160
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: before the shower?

1161
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: Wow? Are you familiar with the of my death? Here?

1162
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: Dry brushing your body before a shower. I've never done it,

1163
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm not I was not aware that it was practiced

1164
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: by people. And I'm trying to figure out what type

1165
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: of brush you use or where. I wonder if you

1166
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: do it, like I mean, presumably this to get off

1167
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: dead skin, right.

1168
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: Right, kind of exfoliating. I'm imagining kind of a horse brush,

1169
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: something rough.

1170
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm imagining, like, you know, as close to sandpaper as

1171
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 2: you're willing to put on your body. Okay, so dry

1172
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: brushing your body. As someone who's never done it before,

1173
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: I will say that it kind of sounds like a

1174
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: gift to me because any thing that makes your shower

1175
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: routine longer was basically good. I mean, this is the

1176
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: most relaxing time of day that we have, right, You're

1177
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: it's completely focused on yourself. It's yeah, it's a selfish act,

1178
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: but one that we should all enjoy. It's right care

1179
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: and I would presume having exfoliated before that if you

1180
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: dry brush before you shower, then you get in the shower,

1181
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: your skin is as silky as can be, and so

1182
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: you probably feel great. It probably makes the shower enhanced.

1183
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: So it's a major gift for me despite not having

1184
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: done it. But maybe I'll try it now if I

1185
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: can find the right brush.

1186
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: Right, John, you got it right. Look, I've never dried

1187
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: brush before a shower before, but everything you've just said

1188
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense to me. This is exactly what I

1189
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 3: was thinking when I read this suggestion. I think exfoliation

1190
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: probably should happen outside of the shower. I don't feel

1191
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: like an expoliation when you're wet, it doesn't seem like

1192
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: you can exfoliate as much. But if you've got this

1193
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: sandpaper that you're basically just burning your skin off in

1194
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 3: the before you step into the shower, that makes sense

1195
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: to me. This sounds like a new trend that like

1196
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: people with more money than me are onto like fancy

1197
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: people are out there doing this, and then I'll come

1198
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: out to it in ten years. I mean, I don't

1199
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: even know where I would begin to look for an

1200
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: exfoliation dry brush.

1201
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: What does that look like? My question is where you

1202
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: do this, because it seems like it creates, you know,

1203
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: some waste, you know, right, this this whatever you're brushing

1204
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: off has to go somewhere. Do you do you have

1205
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: a special room? Do you do it? You know, in

1206
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: the your skin very garbage can Yeah.

1207
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: Right, So that's why I'm saying that you've got to

1208
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: have a lot of dough for this sort of thing,

1209
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: otherwise your house is going to be full of down again.

1210
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a skin warehouse instead of home. Yeah,

1211
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe you do it in the yard before hosing down. Yeah,

1212
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: probably you do it in the shower before the shower. Oh,

1213
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: that's you're trying to face it on and then you

1214
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: let the skin just swirl down the dream.

1215
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: Creating some sort of clay monster in the.

1216
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: Gear which will attack you from the Yeah.

1217
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: The problem with doing it in the shower to me

1218
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: is like I'm worried about the dry brush getting wet,

1219
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: and then my shower becomes an anxiety nightmare. I'm worried

1220
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: about where to keep this thing. I don't know. That

1221
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: is the one element of this that doesn't make any

1222
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: sense to me.

1223
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: And it's also interesting how the shower is such a comfortable, comforting,

1224
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: relaxing space when the water's on, but when the water's

1225
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: not on, it's a bit of a scary. It's an uncanny, feeling,

1226
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: unhygienic space.

1227
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: Right, you're in there and you're thinking I shouldn't be here.

1228
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 2: You feel like you're like a dog and someone's about

1229
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: to come in and do the wash to you, or

1230
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: a baby or something like that.

1231
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the shower. You make a very good point. The

1232
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: shower without the water on, it's you're maybe hiding from

1233
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: a killer. There are very few times that you're in

1234
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: the shower without and then also the water is not

1235
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 3: hot yet, you need to turn the water on and

1236
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: let it wark you're going to get a blast of

1237
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: cold water. The more I don't want, I don't want

1238
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: to get away from saying this is a gift.

1239
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: We established, there's no way that can be reverse.

1240
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: Okay, let's move on the final one here. Let's say

1241
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 3: this is one of my own own little suggestions. Gift

1242
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: or a curse?

1243
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: Off leash dogs? Oh well, this is interesting because you

1244
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: and I are both from the country Utah, New Hampshire.

1245
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: We love to let our animals run free. Yes, but

1246
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: we're in the city now and so it's quite a

1247
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: different different thing. Is it in a public space or.

1248
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 3: The assumption here is that the dog is off leash

1249
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: and other people are nearby.

1250
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, and I think it's a curse, because yeah,

1251
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: you just you don't want to force your dog on

1252
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: other dogs in the way that. I'm not a dog owner,

1253
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: but I am a dog fan, and I know how

1254
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: they work, and I know that an off leash dog

1255
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: is bound to interact with other dogs in the way

1256
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: that may be unwanted. They can obviously run away if

1257
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: they're a terrier type rat chasing dog. They'll just disappear

1258
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: into the woods. And you know, as nice as it

1259
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: is as a person for someone else's off leash dog

1260
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: to come up and approach you and you get to

1261
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: meet a new dog, it just seems like they risk

1262
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: outweighs the reward. So for me, it's a curse.

1263
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: John, what a way to turn this game around? You

1264
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: get another I'm everything you've just said makes perfect sense.

1265
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 3: I think when a dog is off leash, it's just

1266
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: this weird assumption. The dog owner is making so many

1267
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: assumptions about everyone else that they're comfortable with the dog.

1268
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: They're assuming that the dog may not run off. There's

1269
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: just so much immediately. Of course, I'm sure undoubtedly there's

1270
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: someone listening to this that's going to complain dogs should

1271
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: be off when other people are nearby. And I'm a

1272
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: dog owner. I love your dog, well, well she's a

1273
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: queen's an absolute empress, and I love a good dog.

1274
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: But I also am always acutely aware of other people's

1275
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: comfort around dogs, and not everyone's comfortable around a dog.

1276
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: You're a well behaved guide generally, I mean, I feel

1277
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: like you're you're aware of people's comfort around. You know,

1278
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 2: just generally, you're you're making sure to not disrupt people's day.

1279
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: Outside of when I'm dancing. I'm trying to keep.

1280
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Wrapping or styling or something like that.

1281
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I try to keep it in control. And

1282
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I understand that. You actually I

1283
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: don't understand. Put the dog on a leash. You're I

1284
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: feel like you're protecting the dog, you're protecting other people.

1285
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: Everyone feels more comfortable. It's just kind of a rude move.

1286
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: And if you're lucky, you'll have you'll be able to

1287
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: take the dog to a space where they can be

1288
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: awfully right. Take it to the leash dog park. Yeah,

1289
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: at af leash dog park, you know, your mom's backyard.

1290
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Take it to the country and run around.

1291
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: Go ahead, wind in its hair, yeah, tail flapping in

1292
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: the wind.

1293
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: It's right. But uh, okay, we've said enough. You've said enough.

1294
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 3: I've said enough.

1295
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 2: You've gone two out of three. Jump. I was going

1296
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: for three out of three. You know, the first one

1297
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: was a little bit weird. I think people, the listeners

1298
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: will agree. You know, there's a lot of three.

1299
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: Like the listener would have turned on you. They would

1300
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 3: have thought this guy is too polished, cheating. This guy's slick.

1301
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: I don't like this this image he's projecting. H Two

1302
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: out of three people like imperfection. That's the one thing

1303
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: that we know on podcasts, they love these deep dives

1304
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: into people's imperfections. And you've really revealed how flawed you are.

1305
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm the underdog. I'm flawed, and I remained the underdog,

1306
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: and I'll be the underdog favorite for years to come.

1307
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: I think.

1308
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: Okay, let's move on. Final part of the podcast. I

1309
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: said no emails. People are writing into I said no

1310
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: gifts at gmail dot com and they have various gift

1311
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: related issues in their lives. Let's read one or two. John,

1312
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: you have to help.

1313
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'll do my best. I mean, I

1314
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: nailed it with the trash bag. But going on right,

1315
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: you did nail with the trash bags. Listener, No, I

1316
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: hope that you just keep recommending the trash bag.

1317
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1318
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: This first one just says high Bridger. So this person

1319
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 3: has Usually they'll write into the guest. This person is oh. Actually,

1320
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: first line of the thing says, I hope you and

1321
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 3: your guest can help me. There we go, So they

1322
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: have considered you, me and my partner have been recently

1323
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 3: going through a very rough patch in our almost seven

1324
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: year long relationship. We recently started couples counseling, but unfortunately

1325
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: no real results yet. We're in a weird place in

1326
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: our relationship, but we do still love each other and

1327
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 3: I'd like to get him something to do or do

1328
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: something nice, oh, for Valentine's Day. Okay, so we're recording

1329
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: this in March, so we're gonna march forward here. There's

1330
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: nothing we can do. What gifts do you recommend for

1331
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: me in this strange situation? Thanks? That's for Meg. Meg.

1332
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 3: First of all, greatest apologies that we have missed Valentine's

1333
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: Day by and by the time this airs, I mean

1334
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 3: probably two months.

1335
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's true that you know,

1336
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: the holiday was created to sell cards. You can celebrate

1337
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day in March, you can celebrate it in April,

1338
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: you can celebrate whenever you want air.

1339
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: I mean, first things first, Meg, Let's say, let's hope

1340
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: the relationship has repaired or ended. Let's hope you're in

1341
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,520
Speaker 3: a good place. Meg. If you're still in the relationship,

1342
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: hopefully things have improved and you can say, you know

1343
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 3: what we were in a rough patch on February fourteenth.

1344
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: Thank god Bridger didn't add to this question. We would have,

1345
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: we would have forced the thing. Let's celebrate Valentine's Day

1346
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: on April twenty seventh.

1347
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and good for you guys, are good for

1348
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: you both for being in couples counseling. Right, you're taking

1349
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: active steps and that's beautiful. That's the greatest gift of

1350
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: all to a relationship. Yeah, if we.

1351
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: Could all be in couples counseling, we'd probably all be,

1352
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 3: especially in the middle of a pandemic. Of course, you're

1353
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: in a rough spot. A pandemic is really uh testing us,

1354
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: it's really pushing us to the limit. That said, what

1355
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 3: what could they do? What's a special thing that we

1356
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: can do for this couple that's in a rough spot.

1357
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: I was a day of love. You know, we'll just

1358
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: call it Love Day. And it doesn't have to be

1359
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: the trademark Valentine's Day. It can just be Kissing Day

1360
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: or Love Day or something like that. That's interesting. So

1361
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: it sounds like we're not talking about sex. That's not

1362
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like that. We want to do

1363
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: a special Valentte and Dan dinner and a special so

1364
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, I obviously you know, knowing who I am.

1365
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,480
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of ideas about different sex toys,

1366
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: run skiing.

1367
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 3: Hmmm, let's see, I'm trying to think of something special.

1368
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: They've been through this rough period. I feel like you

1369
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: were going to want to reset, and I feel like,

1370
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's getting a little easier to get out

1371
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: and go do things, you know, hotels, this sort of thing.

1372
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 3: It feels like it's beginning to be more of an option.

1373
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: Why not? I don't know where Meg is. Unfortunately she

1374
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 3: didn't give her location. So Meg, why not find somewhere

1375
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 3: outside of where you are a couple hours, a little

1376
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: B and B, an airb and B, a little motel

1377
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: something like this, book a night and make a little

1378
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 3: miniature vacation as a reset. It's our first trip outside

1379
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: of pandemic. Unless you know, unless I mean, I'm assuming

1380
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 3: that Meg is not an anti masker. She might be

1381
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: out there demanding that she walked through the grocery store

1382
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 3: without a mask. Let's hope not.

1383
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: This is a pro mask show.

1384
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: This, this is a very pro mask show and I are.

1385
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: Both wearing masks. That's recording in our separate apartments and homes.

1386
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: But Meggie, I think a little vacation might be in

1387
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: the works for you.

1388
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not?

1389
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: We all need a little break right now.

1390
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll just say, don't put too much pressure

1391
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: on the vacation. Don't feel a need to try a

1392
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 2: bunch of new things. No, you know, you want to

1393
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: go to a new place and you know, relax. But

1394
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 2: if you want to just go and watch movies, that's

1395
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: fine too. It doesn't have to be a thing where

1396
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: you're each stepping outside of your comfort zone to you know, say,

1397
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: go skydiving or something like that. Could just be a

1398
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: nice likes Bridger saying retreat.

1399
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, something that requires nothing of either of you outside

1400
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 3: of just feeling nice.

1401
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: Right, And I say, I have another suggestion. Oh, let's

1402
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: hear it. Is it a trash can sensory deprivation tanks? There?

1403
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: Like Joe Rogan and his buds.

1404
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,480
Speaker 3: I think, did they go to these tanks?

1405
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 2: I think Arogan is a big tank advocate. I think, yeah, so,

1406
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: you know, try stepping into a completely neutral space, the void.

1407
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: And maybe it's sort of in the same way that

1408
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: Bridgers suggested a bit of a rebirth, but maybe even

1409
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: more literal because you're sort of in a womb environment

1410
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: and and you can both come out of it have

1411
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 2: something new to discuss, shared experience. It seems like it

1412
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: could be fun.

1413
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 3: I think have you been to one of those?

1414
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: Sean never never? I bought my brother this is like

1415
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: a horrible and I brought my brother a brother in

1416
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: IOU sensory deprivation tank trip and then never freaking followed

1417
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: through it. But I think I got something else as

1418
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: a presence, so he and I will still go in

1419
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: a sensory deforation tank. I'm certain.

1420
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: I think I think it's worth trying. I've done it once,

1421
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 3: and wow, it's a you know, it's three hours of nothing.

1422
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: It's it's as close as just like blacked out memory.

1423
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: Like it's almost like a redacted memory in your life

1424
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 3: or something.

1425
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: Were you anxious?

1426
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 3: I didn't get anxious. I was worried that. You know,

1427
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: three hours seems like a long time. Was it three?

1428
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: I think it was three hours. My friend who went

1429
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 3: bailed about forty five minutes in. We had driven separate

1430
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 3: cars to thank everything. But I said, and therefore, well,

1431
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: also I'm the sort of person that I spend money.

1432
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 3: I'm going to get my money's worth Yeah, but I

1433
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 3: you know, you've kind of flowed in warmish saltwater in

1434
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 3: total darkness for three hours. Just it's it's worthwhile. It's

1435
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: kind of a an Eternal Sunshine esque experience. You go

1436
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: down into some weird lab and then sit there in

1437
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 3: kind of a submarine. That's a suggestion.

1438
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: I think. I think it sounds great. And hey, you

1439
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: know I've never been give me invite me along because

1440
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: bridgerd just really sold it well. So if you need,

1441
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: you know, a third for your sensory deprivation.

1442
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 3: Retreat, I mean, John will not be part of your tank.

1443
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: He'll just be in another.

1444
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: I want my own tank, but it doesn't have to

1445
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: be big, it can be small. I can go fee always.

1446
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, John, let's answer one more question. Let's hope that

1447
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 3: it's not as time sensitive as megs. But you never know. Okay,

1448
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: this is hello Bridger, and I guess I'm in a

1449
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: bit of a conundrum. My love language is gift giving.

1450
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: I've been blessed with the ability to pick out just

1451
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: the right gifts for people that are equal parts personal,

1452
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: funny and useful. This person written into brag I don't understand.

1453
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: Let's move on and okay, and truly nothing makes me

1454
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: happier than giving someone I care about a gift. But

1455
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 3: here's the thing. Most of my closest crew don't love

1456
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: receiving gifts. They feel like it creates some weird power

1457
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: imbalance like that owe me something which isn't true at all.

1458
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 3: My question is how do I proceed. I want to

1459
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 3: show my love for my friends, but I don't want

1460
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: to make anyone feel weird and uncomfortable. Fondly Olivia in Baltimore. Okay,

1461
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: so you know we cut through. Olivia's just show voting

1462
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: about being a good gift giver. Her friends are all uncomfortable.

1463
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 3: She's been creating these power imbalances in her life. Just

1464
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: willy nilly. It sounds like what does she do to

1465
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 3: continue her what sounds essentially like a hobby of gift

1466
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: giving without making her friends uncomfortable?

1467
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: Wow? First of all, I'm just so impressed by the

1468
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: level of communication in this friend group. It sounds like

1469
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: the openness is really like impressive as far as articulating

1470
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:52,919
Speaker 2: complex emotions of gifts and things. Right, So you're winning already.

1471
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, what can she possibly do? I mean, I feel

1472
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 3: like the friends I don't feel like a living I mean,

1473
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 3: she's reaching out to a podcast, she's putting in the

1474
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: work here. She loves doing this for her friends, and

1475
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:06,919
Speaker 3: her friends are making it a problem.

1476
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I know, I almost wish I

1477
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: could talk to these these other folks and just say,

1478
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: you know, this is what your friend likes to do,

1479
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 2: and spe chill.

1480
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: You wouldn't get in the way of your friend. Like

1481
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: wood carving. Yeah, she loves to give a gift.

1482
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: And this one you benefit. You have a huge benefit,

1483
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: you know. So I guess, Okay, So what we need

1484
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: to piece of advice we need to give is how

1485
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: to raise the idea of let me give gifts. That's

1486
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: basically the question here, right right, maybe we proceed.

1487
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 3: She doesn't want anyone to feel weird and uncomfortable, is

1488
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: it a h I think what you do, Olivia. First

1489
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: thought is you're constantly going to be throwing. You need

1490
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 3: to start throwing parties constantly where there are.

1491
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: Gift banks.

1492
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: So every time my friend comes to the party, the

1493
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: gift bag is just there for them to have your

1494
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 3: kind of tricking them. You're you know, you're getting whatever

1495
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: sick pleasure you get out of giving gifts, but the

1496
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: friends are don't feel as targeted. Suddenly there you know

1497
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: these party favors, maybe they're specially tailored to each guest.

1498
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: And this is probably going to cost you, This is

1499
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 3: going to drive you deeply into debt. But that's my

1500
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 3: first thought. Sorry, I mean just the logistically that might

1501
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 3: ruin your life. Yeah, but you've got to you gotta

1502
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: get your kicks.

1503
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can find a way for your friends

1504
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: who you want to give gifts to just happen upon

1505
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: the gifts perhaps, right, maybe you don't find out where

1506
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: they work, just leave them at they're the key.

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's you know, throw it through a window.

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the answer here is to like invoice your

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 2: friends for the gifts so it's not a so they're

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: not left owing you anything. And you just say if

1511
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 2: you're you know, I actually, you know, I think the

1512
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: real answer is you seem like your skill is recommending purchases.

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01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: Why not just do that? Send them an email that says,

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: this is something I really think you should purchase and

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 2: and then maybe you can offer to help them do it.

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01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: But you know, you get the thrill of seeing your

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01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: friend have the gift that you know they will appreciate

1518
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: so much. But maybe again they don't feel like they

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 2: owe you.

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 3: That's really a bad idea. And maybe if you know

1521
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: you're worried about, you know, the financial element, there's the

1522
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: you know kind of suddenly they find twenty dollars on

1523
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 3: their porch, fifty dollars comes from an anonymous downer in

1524
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: the mail. Yes, somebody venmos them five thousand dollars and

1525
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 3: then suddenly you're it just coincides with you saying, oh,

1526
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: you should buy a hot.

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Tub, right my apparently my grandfather used to do this

1528
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: to my dad, leave a twenty dollars bill in his

1529
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 2: wallet or something, just to be sweet. So it's very sweet.

1530
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 2: You could take a lesson from Jerry Milstein, my sweet

1531
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: grandfather and do something like that to start throwing money around.

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01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I do like the idea of invoicing. Just

1533
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 3: become You've tried being kind of a you know, this rich,

1534
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 3: benefactory benefactor to your friends. Why not become a financial

1535
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: burden and see if they like that. Yeah, maybe maybe

1536
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 3: the other way.

1537
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean again, these people do seem pretty particular and

1538
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: not like people that I personally have interacted with, so

1539
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: they could they could get a particular thrill out of

1540
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: being in voice for a gift. Yeah, I don't they

1541
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: know themselves very well.

1542
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: Tell Meg otherwise, her social group seems like a different

1543
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: type of crowd than I'm running with.

1544
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 2: And maybe talk to them and try to ascertain if

1545
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: they are meeting without you, because this line seems so

1546
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 2: bizarre to me. It almost feels like it was created

1547
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: in a group setting a brainstorm.

1548
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: You've got to get Meg to stop giving us gifts.

1549
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems like there's something in this picture.

1550
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: And and also you seem so lovely to have this

1551
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: as a skill. Frankly, you deserve friends who appreciate it, right,

1552
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: So I don't want to say find new friends because

1553
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: obviously that's that's.

1554
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: Tell them to get lost.

1555
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but definitely get someone in your life who wants

1556
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: to receive gifts, maybe on top of your friend group,

1557
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: because it's sad to think that this amazing skill and talent,

1558
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: which you're not so ashamed about talking about, as we saw,

1559
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: it's sad to think that this talent would go unused

1560
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: or underappreciated.

1561
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: Right.

1562
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: We don't want to hide our light under a what

1563
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 3: is it hydro light under a bushel?

1564
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: Is that yeah, exactly, never heard it, but I believe it.

1565
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, think about this, if Bach had never picked

1566
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: up a piano, or better yet, if Box friends hated it,

1567
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: hated the piano, and he loved playing it for Yeah,

1568
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: then that would be quite sad.

1569
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Box's friend group has a text chain going about his

1570
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 3: obnoxious piano playing.

1571
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, WoT the piano? He tells other people to play

1572
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: other stuff. I don't like this. I'm weird. You know,

1573
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: we don't need this person. Meg.

1574
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: You're in a tight spot and I can't wish. I

1575
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: can't do anything but wish you luck because this could

1576
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: blow up in your face in so many different ways,

1577
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 3: and I feel like you are in a dangerous, dangerous position.

1578
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm telling you move out of town. That's my final

1579
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 3: word on this.

1580
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the gift that the gift you need is

1581
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: to Yeah, keep yourself safe, and you know, keep looking

1582
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 2: over your shoulder because a group of gift hating discreens

1583
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: could be following you wherever you go.

1584
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna We've answered two questions here. One was

1585
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: nearly expired, and I apologize, but there are just there

1586
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 3: are so many questions that I only have so much energy,

1587
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 3: so people can't complain. I mean, they can complain, but

1588
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 3: that's not my problem. I'm not going to deal with

1589
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 3: the complaints.

1590
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: That's not me. And by the way, yes, and this is,

1591
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: by the way, is the best way to get advice

1592
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 2: or any question answered is send it in and listen

1593
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 2: to a podcast for the next two to three months

1594
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: every episode in the off chance that your question was.

1595
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 3: It's easily the best way. I can't recommend it enough. Again, Uh,

1596
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 3: this is this is advice. Other people, would you know

1597
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,959
Speaker 3: come to me as pay me thousands as a consultant.

1598
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 3: They pay John hundreds of thousands as a consultant on

1599
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: the gift giving. So what you're getting here is free,

1600
01:22:53,240 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 3: it's timely, and no one can complain. Yeah, enough said, Look, John,

1601
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 3: you've given me two You've made some huge assumptions about

1602
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: the state of my car, and it paid off.

1603
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: It pay I was worried. I was definitely worried that

1604
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: like again, I don't I haven't seen this thing in

1605
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: too many cars, but I was worried that maybe you

1606
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 2: were one of the guys. You had it and my

1607
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: worries were completely unfounded. And I'm so glad that you're

1608
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna use it.

1609
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 3: I love it. I might, you know, I might start smoking,

1610
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 3: just you know, because now I can mask the cigarette,

1611
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 3: smile with my black eyes, my bayside breeze.

1612
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: And start chewing and shelling peanuts in your car, So

1613
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: you can really create a lot of small pieces of

1614
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,520
Speaker 2: waste with many that can really.

1615
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,919
Speaker 3: Shatter, and my car will be like a saloon.

1616
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 2: Right, It's like a five guys, but one guy's car.

1617
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait, too. And I also can't wait to

1618
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: have one passenger that always just has a face of trash.

1619
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, that is the problem if you're

1620
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 2: really popular. I specifically buy this trash bag for people

1621
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: I know who are popular but not too popular.

1622
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 3: So you think I'm deeply unpopular. I'm losing friends by

1623
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: the minute. No one wants to get in my car. John,

1624
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: This is the end of the podcast. I thank you

1625
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 3: for being here. It's just been a wonderful time and

1626
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: long over too. I've wanted you on this podcast for months.

1627
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 3: You refused.

1628
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: You have put a spam filter specifically for gifts related

1629
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: and I think I've missed a lot of important other

1630
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: emails about gifts.

1631
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: This is the end of the podcast. We always there's

1632
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 3: always the struggle to wrap up a podcast. And you know,

1633
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 3: I listened to a lot of podcasts and none of

1634
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 3: them do it that well. So I don't feel any

1635
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 3: shame when I suddenly am just kind of trying to

1636
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: let go and let the listener off, and they're trying

1637
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: to move on with your life, and they're they're looking

1638
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 3: at the time, their sweating, they're trying to get to

1639
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: a meeting, maybe they pulled up to work and they

1640
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 3: just want to hear the last few moments of it.

1641
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not letting that happen. That's fine, This is

1642
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 3: the end. Listener, have a wonderful day, Bye bye, I said,

1643
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by

1644
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 3: our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is

1645
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show

1646
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,400
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1647
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 3: going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting.

1648
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:32,040
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1649
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,720
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1650
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1651
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,960
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Speaker 1: He lievt did you hear Funa man? Myself perfectly clear,

1654
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 1: But you're a guess, Tom. You gotta come to me empty,

1655
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough. I

1656
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how did you dare

1657
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: to surbey me?