Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy.
Speaker 2: You want to be happy for date Edo steak is
Speaker 2: that woo woom?
Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie Welcome back to these solid verbal
Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brandt. That
Speaker 1: guy over there, the one, the only, the incomparable, still
Speaker 1: the incomparable. Dan Rubenstein, sir, how you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I haven't eaten anything today. It's twelve fifteen
Speaker 2: local time, it's lunchtime. And as part of the fun
Speaker 2: of Bowl previews, of which this is our first part. Yes,
Speaker 2: I like to live vicariously through people going to various
Speaker 2: Bowl games. I think I'm going to be in California
Speaker 2: for all, be in California for the Rose. I don't
Speaker 2: know when, what date, the LA Bowl is, the Holiday Bowl.
Speaker 2: I think I'll be around. I don't believe I'm going
Speaker 2: to try and go to any of those games, but
Speaker 2: I try to live vicariously through the stomachs of people
Speaker 2: attending perhaps a game and a place they've never been before,
Speaker 2: like oh, man, I'm going to Mobile, I'm going to Detroit.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Frisco, going to Fort Worth? Where should
Speaker 2: I be eating? And then I look very with spending
Speaker 2: not that much time looking just a very cursory, non
Speaker 2: deeply researched activity, and like.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would eat at Goldies. I would ey at.
Speaker 2: Goldies and Fort Worth number one barbecue place in Texas
Speaker 2: according to Texas Monthly in the latest rankings.
Speaker 1: It looks amazing. So now I'm starving as we headed
Speaker 1: too episode one. So here we are, here we are.
Speaker 1: We are recording this on Friday, December the tenth, So
Speaker 1: if anything big breaks over the weekend, don't blame us.
Speaker 1: We're doing our best here to get out in front
Speaker 1: of bowls. We've got bowls in front of us. We've
Speaker 1: got a big contest that we're running over on Playwinterwonders
Speaker 1: dot Com for our Patreon community. It's a bowl confidence pool.
Speaker 1: And what we're trying to do this show and next
Speaker 1: show is get you ready for that. Okay, I've got theories,
Speaker 1: You've got theories. We've gone through and we've broken up
Speaker 1: Bull Season into two parts. Today's part one we're going
Speaker 1: to go through. At least I'm going to go through.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you my picks for each of
Speaker 1: those games. We're going to give you a general level
Speaker 1: of confidence, how confident we are I am or I'm
Speaker 1: not with respect to those games. And I'm also going
Speaker 1: to talk you through some of my Kaka Mamy theories
Speaker 1: as to how you should pick you a little pool.
Speaker 1: You know that I've got theories. They're not quite conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: but they're not not conspiracy theories with respect to bowl
Speaker 1: confidence pool. So we get into that. You've got the
Speaker 1: food thing. And at time of recording, we didn't see
Speaker 1: the standard issue article that we find every year, the
Speaker 1: annual article, the write of passage that tells us what
Speaker 1: the bull swag is, what the gifts are for the
Speaker 1: kids playing in the game. So we can't provide that
Speaker 1: at this time, but we will put up the bets
Speaker 1: and we will cover that as soon as somebody decides
Speaker 1: to publish that information.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any recommendations myself during gift season guide.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can give pizza item recommendations. I don't have anything,
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't bought that much stuff this year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's the best we can do in
Speaker 2: terms of bull swag. Maybe it'll come out here, right,
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll come out the next week or two and
Speaker 2: we can do an addendum to these Bowl previews talking
Speaker 2: about the different products available and being gifted to the
Speaker 2: players playing in these Bowl games. But it's an especially
Speaker 2: just back to the football and way to evaluate. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I came up with hilden Brand's hunches.
Speaker 2: Hilden Brand's hunches on your theories.
Speaker 1: No, it's not bad.
Speaker 2: It's your last name is particularly like verbose, and just
Speaker 2: it's tough to be alliterative with ties, touches ties.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It's not there yet. Well,
Speaker 1: this is not your finest work, but you'll get there.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, But no, this is it's a
Speaker 2: It's arguably the wackiest Bowl season to preview because of
Speaker 2: the number of coaching changes we've got, key opt outs,
Speaker 2: and just the changes across the sport that I think
Speaker 2: it is just gonna make it tricky.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited to dive in and do this with you.
Speaker 1: We've got I think twenty two or twenty three games
Speaker 1: that we're gonna go through a lost count. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of Bowl games forty four in total, that
Speaker 1: if you're playing our Playwinter Wonders contest you're going to
Speaker 1: have to pick from. We will do our best to
Speaker 1: help you decipher, to help you analyze the playing field,
Speaker 1: but you got to go out Playwinterwonders dot com. If
Speaker 1: you're already part of our Patreon community, you can just
Speaker 1: click on the posts within Patreon and the instructions are
Speaker 1: right there for how to get into our group. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: if you are interested, maybe if you just want to
Speaker 1: join up for a month or whatever, I mean, totally cool,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, Playwinterwonders dot com is where
Speaker 1: you can go and find out more intel on that.
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Speaker 1: you are a college football fan, Daniel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, extra shows. We put in a ton of time
Speaker 2: reacting to big hires, streams, Q and A shows. The
Speaker 2: discord is popping. It's it's my favorite part of the
Speaker 2: season now.
Speaker 1: I love it. So we hope to see you there.
Speaker 1: Check it out. For ballers dot com, we are we
Speaker 1: are hoping you join up. Are you ready to get
Speaker 1: into bulls yea, buddy, This New Year's Eve will be
Speaker 1: so awesome.
Speaker 2: Singing with me, Dan, But we do have Jimmy Kimmel
Speaker 2: entering into Bold season, so it doesn't make sense that
Speaker 2: you played that.
Speaker 1: We do have a Jimmy Kimmel ball that we'll talk
Speaker 1: about here momentarily. We also have games again on New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve, playoff games in New Year's Eve, which is
Speaker 1: far and away my biggest pet peeve about this damn sport. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're still doing this. I can't believe
Speaker 1: nobody has talked any since into Bill Hancock. I know
Speaker 1: these dates are sent all him. It is Bill Hancock's fault.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me otherwise. Until we get a new agreement,
Speaker 1: until there's a new playoff format, expansion, what have you.
Speaker 1: We're probably stuck with this dumb idea of playing games
Speaker 1: of New Year's Eve. I know it's not that big
Speaker 1: a deal, but whatever, Yeah, whatever, I mean, it's during
Speaker 1: the day, right, your your big plans at night for
Speaker 1: your you know, five hundred dollars a plate dinners that
Speaker 1: I sure you go to every year. That's not affected.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. Right, it's a little earlier on in
Speaker 1: the day the first game is, but the second game,
Speaker 1: the second game is pushing up in ye into that nightcap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never mind, I'm wrong. Yeah, I hate it. We're not
Speaker 1: talking about that game today though. Now we're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about the first half of games. This half
Speaker 1: of games runs up through December the twenty eighth, going
Speaker 1: all the way up through the Guaranteed Rate Bowl at
Speaker 1: Chase Field in Phoenix. Okay, here is the way that
Speaker 1: this thing works. Dan. The rules of a confidence pool. Basically,
Speaker 1: you're picking straight winners. You go through, you pick who
Speaker 1: you think is going to win each game. Then you
Speaker 1: go back through and your rank each game from in
Speaker 1: this case, one to forty four in terms of how
Speaker 1: confident you are in the result. So you'd give one
Speaker 1: point to the team the winner that you're released confident in,
Speaker 1: forty four to the game to the winner that you're
Speaker 1: most confident in. Very basic. Here are my rooks. I've
Speaker 1: got three of them with respect to these Bowl confidence pools.
Speaker 1: It may mean I finish in last, I don't care.
Speaker 1: This is the way I'm speaking from the chest. This
Speaker 1: is the way that I like to pick this pool.
Speaker 1: The first and most important rule is one that I
Speaker 1: stole from my friend East Coast Elliott, who was part
Speaker 1: of the show many moons ago. I'm sure I could
Speaker 1: text him and on a moment's notice, he'd be happy
Speaker 1: to come on and talk more about this. But has
Speaker 1: he figured out how to use a phone yet, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. Unclear.
Speaker 2: I've gotten text from him where he's just like, did
Speaker 2: he just fully forget that the letter T exists? It's great,
Speaker 2: he's the best.
Speaker 1: He's a total wild card, but he is the best
Speaker 1: person I've ever met when it comes to Bowl confidence
Speaker 1: because he always is in the top tier of any
Speaker 1: pool we've ever run, and I'll see if I can
Speaker 1: get him in this one.
Speaker 2: And by the way, one of those people, and I
Speaker 2: don't think i'm speaking out a turn because I'm not
Speaker 2: reveal anything personal, but one of those people who's both
Speaker 2: a wild card and has at least at one point
Speaker 2: occupied like a very important job, right, yes, a job
Speaker 2: that does not handl like you need to be specifically
Speaker 2: and especially qualified to possess that kind of job. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: And he's just one of those people, like I've seen
Speaker 2: you try to do very basic things and yet you
Speaker 2: are qualified to do this very advanced thing.
Speaker 1: It's wild He's the best East Coast Elliott has a strategy,
Speaker 1: and that is to front load your confidence points. His
Speaker 1: theory has always been that there's a much bigger disparity
Speaker 1: between the teams playing early than the team's playing in
Speaker 1: the bigger Bowl games late. And I know it kind
Speaker 1: of sounds crazy, but the other thing to consider is
Speaker 1: that pretty much every online system and I should have
Speaker 1: looked at ours before saying this, but pretty much every
Speaker 1: online system that I've ever played a bole confidence pool
Speaker 1: using it will wait the points differently, so it'll say
Speaker 1: one point for the Bahamas Bowl and forty four points
Speaker 1: for the playoff game. Elliott's point has always been, I
Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna win those late games. The teams
Speaker 1: are much closer when it comes to you know, competition
Speaker 1: level and skill level and yeah, you know, just general competency.
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick those games. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put forty four points on that. I want to
Speaker 1: put forty four points on the Bahamas Bowl. Flip that script,
Speaker 1: do all your points early if you can.
Speaker 2: Are arbitraged? Would that be the right word to describe
Speaker 2: his strategy? Right, You're finding weaknesses in the system to
Speaker 2: take advantage, right in a sense. In a sense, it's
Speaker 2: just a different spin on it. And so everybody knows
Speaker 2: the team's playing late, right, Those are the bigger Many teams,
Speaker 2: the blue bloods that everybody Ohio States and whoever.
Speaker 1: But not a whole lot of people out there, at
Speaker 1: least not that you're playing against in your bawl pools,
Speaker 1: are going to know much about middle ten see in Toledo.
Speaker 2: Do you or Elliott, do you feel strongly for or
Speaker 2: against any specific conference?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Because you can say, like, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: have the data to prove it. Be like, I love
Speaker 2: betting against MAC defenses, right, they don't have the skill
Speaker 2: the talent level on defenses. And if you're giving me
Speaker 2: Mac versus American Mac versus Sun Belt Mac versus Conference USA,
Speaker 2: I'm rolling.
Speaker 1: Otherwise No, Now, I don't have that, but I have
Speaker 1: two other rules here. Okay. Secondly, if a team lost
Speaker 1: its coach, m pick their opponent. Not in every case,
Speaker 1: not in every case, but at least give it strong consideration,
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't really make sense on paper. Consider it.
Speaker 1: If there's a monster injury, considerate. We've got this thing
Speaker 1: with guys skipping Bowl games, opting out.
Speaker 2: Well it's not even just the opt outs, but it's
Speaker 2: the opt outs and the transfer stuff, opt.
Speaker 1: Out, transfers, any of that stuff. Consider it. When it
Speaker 1: comes to bullseason. Well, yeah, all right, I think that's od,
Speaker 1: But consider it.
Speaker 2: We have we're recording this on the tenth, so we
Speaker 2: have ten days of transfers and opt outs between now
Speaker 2: and the Bulls beginning. And so like I just saw
Speaker 2: this morning, Texas lost two DB's not that Texas is
Speaker 2: a bull time, but we're gonna it's gonna come out
Speaker 2: in chunks, so people are scrambling to find new spots
Speaker 2: in the portal, be it on the FBS or FCS level.
Speaker 2: So you know there's gonna be just a lot of
Speaker 2: roster turnover. So I suppose you can go with teams
Speaker 2: if that's your your strategy, Go with teams that have
Speaker 2: a little bit more consistency and uh less attrition.
Speaker 1: And the third and most important rule in bowl season,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Pick the team that wants it more, that
Speaker 1: wants it more like total and tangible. Pick the team
Speaker 1: that you think is more motivated, even if you think
Speaker 1: it's a total mismatch. Oh, use the points spread as
Speaker 1: a guide for sure, use your own eyes as a guide.
Speaker 1: For sure. You've watched college football the same way Dan
Speaker 1: and I have. But my first consideration when picking each
Speaker 1: of these games is which team is more motivated? You
Speaker 1: cided a report about Hawaii, yes, on one of the
Speaker 1: last couple shows that we did, how the Todd Graham
Speaker 1: thing may not be going so well Hawaii football. They
Speaker 1: lost Chavon Cordero, they lost their starting running back. Those
Speaker 1: guys are going elsewhere, and the guys who are still
Speaker 1: there say that Todd Graham makes them not want to
Speaker 1: play football.
Speaker 2: Maybe don't pick Hawaiian in that game. Just I hope
Speaker 2: that's not the case. But I hope for those guys
Speaker 2: that are especially down on playing football that maybe they
Speaker 2: find a new home and find rekindle their love for
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Which team actually wants to be there is the most
Speaker 1: important factor to me, So not only where you're putting
Speaker 1: your points, not only what you're considering, but I think
Speaker 1: in this case, the motivation thing is is the big ones.
Speaker 1: So the caveat is if you want to get the points,
Speaker 1: you got to win the games. So you're still trying
Speaker 1: to pick the winners here, and I could end up
Speaker 1: finishing dead last. I will tell you it's never happened before.
Speaker 1: I've always done pretty well using this formula, but it
Speaker 1: could happen. There's a first for everything.
Speaker 2: I am going to go a little bit simpler. I
Speaker 2: go with the team with the better points per drive, defense,
Speaker 2: absent major drama among the coaching ranks, or any reason,
Speaker 2: quarterback injury, any reason that would sway things otherwise, if
Speaker 2: all things are relatively equal, I think defense and effort travels.
Speaker 2: And to me that you know if a team has
Speaker 2: the number twenty two points per drive defense and they're
Speaker 2: playing against the team with the number eighty nine points
Speaker 2: per drive defense, and there's no drama otherwise between the
Speaker 2: two teams, I'll just take Team A. I won't even
Speaker 2: look at the name of the school. I won't look
Speaker 2: at the co That is just where I go with it.
Speaker 2: And generally speaking, unless I have a major, major reason
Speaker 2: outside of you know, the defense, you know, quarterback injury, whatever,
Speaker 2: or a team that was dealing with a significant amount
Speaker 2: of injuries for the first like five weeks of the season,
Speaker 2: if there's specific content text that changes my mind about
Speaker 2: those numbers, If everything is within the standard deviation of normal,
Speaker 2: that's where I go, and I don't think about it.
Speaker 1: No, I think. But we're also kind of pushing up
Speaker 1: against the same thing here, aren't we. When you talk
Speaker 1: about points per drive defense. Yeah, that's that's effort.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, that's motivation to play and yeah yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: I just think it captures your point absolutistically, So we're
Speaker 2: on the same page to some degree.
Speaker 1: Here I might be a little bit more extreme with it.
Speaker 1: But Playwinterwonders dot Com is where you can get your
Speaker 1: own entry into our pool. What I'm gonna do, if
Speaker 1: it's okay with you, Dan, I'm going to go through
Speaker 1: this first half of games, going to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the matchup, and then I'm gonna pick my
Speaker 1: winner and tell you high, medium, or low confidence because
Speaker 1: there are forty four games. High I think in this
Speaker 1: case is I'm putting anywhere between thirty and forty four
Speaker 1: points on a game. Yep, Medium, twenty to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Low would be anything anything less than twenty. That makes
Speaker 1: sense totally in Why don't we start on Friday at
Speaker 1: high noon Eastern time. You gotta get your picks in
Speaker 1: before this. It's the Bahamas Bowl. They played at Thomas A.
Speaker 1: Robinson National Stadium in Nassau. The Bahamas aptly direct. It's
Speaker 1: on ESPN, like most of the games are. Middle Tennessee
Speaker 1: at six and six, Toledo at seven and five. At
Speaker 1: time of recording, or at least the time that I
Speaker 1: put this dock together, Toledo was favored by about nine
Speaker 1: and a half points. Here. You gotta lean in this game, Dan.
Speaker 2: Hum a little bit. Yeah, I think it's I'm looking
Speaker 2: here right now. Middle Tennessee lost Cunningham, their quarterback a
Speaker 2: little bit of go. I think I'm going Toledo here.
Speaker 2: The spreads at about nine and a half, and I
Speaker 2: just Middle Tennessee has not been the states the same
Speaker 2: since losing the quarterback. I'm going Toledo here with I'm
Speaker 2: going to say medium high comp confidence.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the Toledo defense is the best thing in
Speaker 2: this game. The Middle Tennessee offense is probably the worst
Speaker 2: thing in this game. So I like that kind of
Speaker 2: matchup at this point.
Speaker 1: I really like Middle Tennessee, especially with the points I
Speaker 1: would consider betting plus nine and a half here. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think the tendency with Toledo will be to look
Speaker 1: at them and say, hey, this was a team that
Speaker 1: was supposed to contend for the MAC. They didn't. Their
Speaker 1: defense is still pretty good. They almost knocked off Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: And Jason Campbell still a candle excuse me? Is still there?
Speaker 1: Jason Campbell different football adjacent character, That's true. They won
Speaker 1: their last three, whereas Middle Tennessee was all over the map.
Speaker 1: But Middle Tennessee just played a bunch of good teams
Speaker 1: in the non con I feel like they might be
Speaker 1: more battle tested and the Toledo thing was sort of
Speaker 1: underwhelming this year. I expected a lot more from them,
Speaker 1: and so I wonder if they're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: Bmahamas more for the vacation the than the football. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Middle Tennessee Medium, all right.
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee played the number one, twenty nine, one, sixteen,
Speaker 2: and one twenty five teams in the back half of
Speaker 2: the season. Got blown out by Western Kentucky, and UH
Speaker 2: lost to a bad ODU team and beat a bad
Speaker 2: FAU team and ODU Bowl team that I am also
Speaker 2: picking out right right, cool, all right, take, I'm taking
Speaker 2: the defense.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with it. Just go with it, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 1: have fun with it. Let's go to the tail Greater
Speaker 1: Cure Bowl. They played at Exploria Stadium whatever that is,
Speaker 1: in Orlando, Dan, six pm. Also in the seventeenth this
Speaker 1: one on the deuce CSPN two. Nor are there ne
Speaker 1: Illinois the Huskies at nine to four, Coastal Carolina at
Speaker 1: ten and two. They're about a ten point favorite.
Speaker 2: You going shans here? Oh yeah, Grace and McCall healthy
Speaker 2: and top fifteen ish national offense. Coastal Carolina going against
Speaker 2: a truly putrid and IUD defense. Sorry, Seawn's offense Top fifteen,
Speaker 2: terrible defense. Niu, I think it's a wonderful matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me Coastal.
Speaker 1: I'm going forty four points on Coastal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take. I'm taking mid to high thirties.
Speaker 2: Is where my brain is at this moment.
Speaker 1: We put it all on Coastal. Get it out of
Speaker 1: the way early again, that's the theory front loaded.
Speaker 2: I don't have an Orlando recommendation. The last time I
Speaker 2: tried to recommend restaurants in Orlando, I said, I don't know,
Speaker 2: go to some chain and I got a lot of flax,
Speaker 2: so don't. I don't have a recommendation, but I say,
Speaker 2: look local. I remember Adam amein if you want to
Speaker 2: tweet it, Adam Aman He's got a place that does
Speaker 2: an amazing burger, like with pork belly on it or
Speaker 2: something like that. I didn't text him because I was
Speaker 2: just doing this not that long ago. So I get
Speaker 2: I'll get that name for you. How about that. That's
Speaker 2: my promise for good eats in Orlando. I've also heard
Speaker 2: there's an area right by Orlando. I want to say
Speaker 2: it's Winter Park. I believe apparently some great eating there
Speaker 2: that's my recommendation.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Saturday, this one at eleven am Eastern time.
Speaker 1: The roofclaim dot com Boca ratone Bowl. This one Saturday,
Speaker 1: the same of the eighteenth. They played at Fau's Stadium
Speaker 1: in Boca's. Western Kentucky and app State. App State is
Speaker 1: favored by three points in this game. I am thrilled
Speaker 1: for this game. I believe our boy Connor called this
Speaker 1: out in his latest article out on solid verbal dot
Speaker 1: com one of the under the radar must watch bowl
Speaker 1: games of the year. Two good teams, genuinely good teams
Speaker 1: in this cycle of college football. I went back and
Speaker 1: forth on who to pick here because Appstate clearly has
Speaker 1: more of a track record over the last decade. Now, yep,
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky has had a dynamic offense. But I haven't
Speaker 1: seen what the deal is with Zach Kittley, their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He's hired to be at Texas Tech. Yeah, yeah, to
Speaker 1: be the new guy at Texas Tech. If he's gonna
Speaker 1: be there in the bowl game or not, I would
Speaker 1: assume no, but maybe I'm wrong. Brian ellis also their
Speaker 1: co offensive coordinator alongside Kittley, is going to go work
Speaker 1: with Clay Helton at Georgia Southern, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that means they're going to be at all discombobulated
Speaker 1: a little bit on offense. I know that Bailey Zappi
Speaker 1: is still planning on playing, even though there is some
Speaker 1: NFL interest for him. I don't see any way this
Speaker 1: game doesn't evolve into a shootout. And I think my
Speaker 1: thought here is if we're going into a shootout, I
Speaker 1: sort of like Western to finish that job more than
Speaker 1: I do app State, Like that's just kind of their
Speaker 1: style of play, That's how they win games. So if
Speaker 1: it goes there, I'm I say Western, but I'm not
Speaker 1: very confident this would be a Western Kentucky pick and
Speaker 1: low confidence for me.
Speaker 2: Do's agree, go with the defense and a shootout, go
Speaker 2: with the team who can get the stops man. And
Speaker 2: it's a good matchup for app State in that they
Speaker 2: are the team that can get the stops and Western
Speaker 2: Kentucky is the and I don't want is Are they
Speaker 2: the toff beer?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Is it the to alcohol? The cause and solution to
Speaker 2: all of life's problems? The best and worst thing and
Speaker 2: parts of this game are Western Kentucky?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky's ability to move the ball, and the worst
Speaker 2: thing is their lack of ability to stop the ball,
Speaker 2: especially on the ground. Even even though app State isn't
Speaker 2: a terrific running team like they have been in previous years,
Speaker 2: I go with the team where if I expect points,
Speaker 2: I want the team that can get the stops. I
Speaker 2: know we talk about taking the points in a shootout,
Speaker 2: but it's what three three and a half points here?
Speaker 2: Confidence wise, it's medium, but I am going to go
Speaker 2: with the team that doesn't have a putrid part of
Speaker 2: their defense. So as much as I love WKU and
Speaker 2: I do think Bailey's Appy is going to get his
Speaker 2: go for four hundred plus yards, I'm still once again
Speaker 2: going with app State here to the tune of medium
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Speaker 2: they've got bow options, you know, bao the little buns.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you spell that? Bao? If you gave
Speaker 1: me that, I would have no idea how to pronounce that.
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Speaker 1: New Mexico, two fifteen on ESPN on Saturday, the eighteenth
Speaker 1: of December. UTIP at seven and five, Fresno State at
Speaker 1: nine and three. So here is one of those games
Speaker 1: that I referenced very top. Kaylen de borr is off
Speaker 1: to Washington. No, he's not, Oh, Kaylen de bor is.
Speaker 1: Jake Haner coming on back. Jake Caner coming on back
Speaker 1: with the untransfer. Yes, the untransfer. Kaylen de bor gone.
Speaker 1: Jake Caner was transferring and out, not transferring. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's playing.
Speaker 2: No, he's close with Jeff Tedford, so he you know,
Speaker 2: Jeff Tedford getting the job again once again. He's coming
Speaker 2: decided to come back.
Speaker 1: Jake Haner coming back. Have not seen if he's playing
Speaker 1: in the ball. I'm assuming he will, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any kind of paperwork he
Speaker 1: needs a file to get back in the game. But
Speaker 1: to remove the name. Yeah, normally I would go the
Speaker 1: other way and I would say UTEP because of the turnover.
Speaker 1: But we followed Fresno all year Dan and they are
Speaker 1: legitimately a good team. Their opponent, in this case beat
Speaker 1: just one team inside the S and P Top Top
Speaker 1: one hundred, excuse me, and that was a one score
Speaker 1: win over Old Dominion. I like Old Dominion maybe more
Speaker 1: than anybody else in college football. But I still think
Speaker 1: that Fresno's got this one. They're about a two touchdown
Speaker 1: favorite here. I don't know if I would take that line,
Speaker 1: but I will probably go forty three points on Fresno.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm going heavy. This is a
Speaker 2: high Fresno confidence for me. Jake Hayner is practicing. He
Speaker 2: did apologize for putting his name in the transfer portal UTEP.
Speaker 1: He didn't need to apologize, though, did he? Of course?
Speaker 2: I mean as the as the leader of the team, right,
Speaker 2: he is the heartbeat of as most quarterbacks are of
Speaker 2: successful teams. I get it, I get it where he's
Speaker 2: just maybe it was an emotional reaction, and he's a
Speaker 2: dog at heart.
Speaker 1: I guess a Fresno State dog, not a Washington Husky
Speaker 1: type dog. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fresno State UTEP certainly improved, their offense is still kind
Speaker 2: of a nightmare Fresno State. You mentioned Hayner and jailely
Speaker 2: cropper guys like that that were very good on offense,
Speaker 2: they were actually led by their defense ultimately in the
Speaker 2: way that they got stops. They fielded a top twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five is defense, as was UTEP. I just think
Speaker 2: Fresno State's going to be able to find points in
Speaker 2: more exciting and consistent ways. So I'm going with the
Speaker 2: Central Valley Zone, the San Joaquin Valley's.
Speaker 1: Own Fresno State Bulldogs to.
Speaker 2: The tune of high confidence. Also Ty Subvension real quick
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Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, Yeah, moving on, let's go to the Radiance
Speaker 1: Technologies Independence bull Report three point thirty ABC. It's UAB,
Speaker 1: It's b YU. Do you know what Radiance Technologies does?
Speaker 1: Tell me? I do not. I had no idea, So
Speaker 1: I went to their website, and on their website, the
Speaker 1: first thing that you see is an experimental Mobile High
Speaker 1: Energy Laser man. Anything with laser AH lasers are the best. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're using the labors for this.
Speaker 1: This this might be some sort of military thing, But.
Speaker 2: Were you good at laser tag? Was that something that
Speaker 2: you would have considered a strength on your birthday party circuit.
Speaker 2: As growing up as a kid.
Speaker 1: There was a place nearby called Planet Trog. Okay ours
Speaker 1: was qsar. Yeah, yeah, Planet Trog. I believe I was there.
Speaker 1: I don't think I had my own birthday there, but
Speaker 1: I was definitely there for many a birthday party of course,
Speaker 1: back in the late nineties. And there was a seminal
Speaker 1: moment in my laser tag care rear where we were
Speaker 1: out on the floor, you know, just a bunch of
Speaker 1: teenagers running a muck and there was one guy who
Speaker 1: was He was an older gentleman. Let's say, I don't
Speaker 1: you don't really have a barometer for how old anybody
Speaker 1: is when you're when you're that young. But he was
Speaker 1: in earnest, probably about as old as I am now, yeah,
Speaker 1: forty plus, and he just wasn't good at it, And
Speaker 1: so I kept trailing him and tagging him and he
Speaker 1: didn't know it. And then eventually he found me and
Speaker 1: sort of got me in the corner and like acted
Speaker 1: as if he was gonna punch me. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: as one does when playing laser Tag. But I would
Speaker 1: say significant strength.
Speaker 2: I could see that, Yeah, you're you're detail oriented and uh,
Speaker 2: when you get locked in on something, you go for it.
Speaker 1: Shift.
Speaker 2: I was, I was very average, but I loved it.
Speaker 2: I loved I loved Uh. You get to come up
Speaker 2: with your own nickname. Right, you go bowling, you get
Speaker 2: to put that in the screen. You go laser tag
Speaker 2: and you see the screen, the scores come up on
Speaker 2: the screen, and there was there was old Danny Captain
Speaker 2: Winkie was my captain. Day spent anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Radius Technologies, Independence, Bull U A B
Speaker 1: B y U B YU favored by seven and a half.
Speaker 1: We know a lot about BYU, don't we. We do.
Speaker 1: I've been talking about them all year long. UAB has
Speaker 1: been a good story, hasn't gotten a whole lot of
Speaker 1: airtime from us. They had the Fuke loss to Rice,
Speaker 1: which isn't great, but their other three losses were to Georgia,
Speaker 1: Liberty and UTSA, which aren't bad losses. No, by any stretch.
Speaker 1: They've got a solid defense. The numbers that I keep
Speaker 1: have this one as about by U minus four, which
Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily buy that, And that came
Speaker 1: down from what seven and a half. Well, the line
Speaker 1: is still seven and a half. But I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I keep says yeah, sorry, I just don't buy that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think I'm on BYU pretty heavy here. Maybe
Speaker 1: like thirty five.
Speaker 2: We've got another duff beer matt up the cause and solution.
Speaker 2: BYU's offense maybe the best thing in this game. But
Speaker 2: Uab's defense also strong, especially upfront against the run, which
Speaker 2: is not where BYU is especially strong moving the ball.
Speaker 2: But the worst thing is BYU's defense. I'm going with
Speaker 2: defense here. I don't believe Kolonie Sataki in interviewing for
Speaker 2: the Oregon job, is any sort of distraction he is
Speaker 2: at BYU. It's his alma mater. I'm going with UAB.
Speaker 2: I'm going with the defense here. Ty a regional advantage
Speaker 2: right playing in Louisiana, not a flying across the country.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: I think defense does travel short and far. I'm going
Speaker 2: with UAB here with medium amount of confidence points. Strawn's
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Speaker 2: Get them, get them, all right, get them. Lending Tree
Speaker 2: Bowl at Hancock Whitney Stadium in Mobile, Alabama, five forty
Speaker 2: five on the eighteenth on ESPN it's Eastern Michigan at
Speaker 2: seven and five, it's Liberty at seven and five. Liberty,
Speaker 2: for context is about an eight and one half point favorite.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Liberty neutral? I mean, they
Speaker 2: run the hell out of the ball, even though Malik
Speaker 2: Willis is the one who has gotten the attention for
Speaker 2: that program. But I'm fine with Liberty winning this game.
Speaker 2: It's another favorite. I understand that I'm picking, but Eastern
Speaker 2: Michigan's defense and their schedule too. You look at what
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan like. This is how they finish their schedule strong,
Speaker 2: and they lost games. They lost to Ohio, a bad
Speaker 2: Ohio team, and they got killed by a bad Central
Speaker 2: Michigan team. It's just one of those things where the
Speaker 2: MAC has like a bunch of five hundred teams and
Speaker 2: a lot of them don't play good defense or like
Speaker 2: they most MAC teams do something disastrously bad. And what
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan does is they just get pushed around constantly
Speaker 2: upfront against the run, and so I think it's a
Speaker 2: bad matchup. So I'm going Liberty with high confidence.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One and twentieth in the ESP plus on the
Speaker 1: defensive side for Eastern Michigan yeah, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Stopping the rushing attack. Stopping Malik Willis if he decides
Speaker 1: to be the rushing attack is going to pose an
Speaker 1: obvious issue here. Bill Connelly, for what it's worth, has
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan at four point nine second order wins, so
Speaker 1: basically a five and seven team masquerading as seven and five.
Speaker 1: I don't see how it's close. I also think that
Speaker 1: Malik Willis is going to be motivated here. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he has any designs on going to the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: it was sort of an underwhelming season for him with
Speaker 1: twelve picks and obviously five losses for Liberty. I think
Speaker 1: he will be motivated here to come out and put
Speaker 1: some big numbers up. So high confidence on Liberty. I
Speaker 1: might consider going Liberty minus eight and a half if
Speaker 1: you're looking to actually wager some real money. But this
Speaker 1: could be like a forty two job for me here
Speaker 1: on Liberty. Fair enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going pretty high here. By the way, Felix
Speaker 2: is for fried fish. Felix is in the Greater Mobile area.
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Speaker 1: they played at SOFI Stadium, Yeah, in Inglewood, California. So
Speaker 1: I'm told seven thirty ABC, Utah State. The Aggie's had
Speaker 1: a great year. You're one, Lake Anderson ten and three.
Speaker 1: Won the conference in resounding fashion over San Diego State.
Speaker 1: They're up against Oregon State. Oregon State seven and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite. Here, Dan, Yeah, so what we have
Speaker 1: in this matchup is an amazing offensive line, I believe
Speaker 1: a Joe Moore Award nominated offensive line with the Beaves.
Speaker 1: They run the hell out of the ball, and that's
Speaker 1: the best thing going in this game is Oregon State's ability.
Speaker 1: BJ Baylor has been the big name for the Beaves
Speaker 1: running the ball, and Utah State's defense against the pass
Speaker 1: is actually the worst thing in this game. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that comes to play a major role, as
Speaker 1: Oregon State is not a huge passing team, rely a
Speaker 1: lot on transfers and tight ends in the passing game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Oregon State is in good position to win
Speaker 1: this game. And defensively, by the way, as you look
Speaker 1: at I mean, these are two defenses that are not
Speaker 1: so good. Oregon State one hundred and one in points
Speaker 1: per drive, Utah State much stronger, thirty seven. I'm actually
Speaker 1: going to go Utah State here. I'm licking my wounds
Speaker 1: from picking against the Aggies in the Mound West Championship game.
Speaker 1: I think Oregon State is good, but I still think
Speaker 1: when the team with the worst defense is and didn't
Speaker 1: Utah State beat Wazoo to open the season. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're a pretty good team.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with Utah State. Well, the Blake Anderson
Speaker 1: story has been incredible. Yeah, in his first year at
Speaker 1: Utah State. I mean I said it before, I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. But abbreviated schedule last year in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: so maybe not apples to apples here, but this is
Speaker 1: a one in five team last year mm hmm, he
Speaker 1: comes on. They got to ten wins. They pounded a
Speaker 1: ranked San Diego State team that maybe was licking its
Speaker 1: own wounds from they had a COVID issue. Right. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much that factored in or not, but
Speaker 1: even still, forty six to thirteen in a championship game
Speaker 1: is a big deal. The sp plus says that ten
Speaker 1: and three Utah State is more like the seven and
Speaker 1: five team. I hear you do whatever you want with
Speaker 1: that information. But I like Oregon State here. They had
Speaker 1: a shot to win the PAC twelve North. They had
Speaker 1: two really bad losses, otherwise they might have done it.
Speaker 1: I think I favor the Beavers here in a tasty
Speaker 1: little matchup, like kind of like the Plucky Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like them to run the hell out of the
Speaker 1: ball here, all right.
Speaker 2: I have lots of La food recommendations, so you can
Speaker 2: tweet at me, especially if you are going for this
Speaker 2: game and want good food, and tell me where in
Speaker 2: La you are, because La is a very big place.
Speaker 2: I will tell you on the west side of La
Speaker 2: Pizzana p I z Z A n A for pizza
Speaker 2: and we'll stick with that theme. And Apollonia's Pizza Justin
Speaker 2: and Apollonias does a fantastic job, amazing transcendent square slices
Speaker 2: at Apollonia's Square Slices Squares Justin dalyone a Mini La
Speaker 2: pizza genius. I'm just telling you right now, I really
Speaker 2: do look up to Justin does great things at Apollonias.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: Do you know I've talked to him a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when I've been out there. He's very guarded, ty, very
Speaker 2: guarded with his pizza and fermentation and secrets for getting
Speaker 2: that real caramelized crispy cheese edge on his squares. Very guarded,
Speaker 2: but amazing. All Right, that's such a specific that's such
Speaker 2: a specific recommendation. But yeah, Appollonia's it's sort of mid
Speaker 2: city in La. I want to say, well, sure, I
Speaker 2: forget which straight, but that's my recommendation.
Speaker 1: I'm medium on Oregon State, by the way, maybe like
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven medium as well. Yep. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the RNL Carriers New Orleans Bowl Caesar's super Dome
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Nine to fifteen ESPN. Again, this is
Speaker 1: the last game of the day on the eighteenth. It
Speaker 1: is an interesting matchup, an interesting matchup. Louisiana favored by
Speaker 1: six over Marshall. You know the deal with Louisiana. Louisiana
Speaker 1: went twelve and one. They beat app State twice. Their
Speaker 1: only loss of the year was to Texas all the
Speaker 1: way back in Week one, and we've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about them, if only because their coach left after the
Speaker 1: championship game to go on over to Florida. Yeah, coach
Speaker 1: the championship game, not hanging around for this one again.
Speaker 1: Normally I would ding that team in a situation like
Speaker 1: this where a coach left, But there are so many
Speaker 1: veterans on Louisiana that I really struggled with is this
Speaker 1: thing gonna disintegrate or not? Right? It's also kind of
Speaker 1: a home game for them, right, playing in the Superdome
Speaker 1: sort of? Yeah, sort of. Lafayette is not New Orleans,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I am gonna go Marshall outright here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stick to the formula. I don't think the seven
Speaker 1: and five records should fool you. This is a really
Speaker 1: good team on both sides of the ball. This game's
Speaker 1: gonna offer I think a really nice mix of styles
Speaker 1: as well. Because Marshall's more of a passing team, Louisiana
Speaker 1: is much more of a running team. I got Marshall
Speaker 1: in the upset. I think coaching maybe makes the difference
Speaker 1: in a close game and Louisiana's played in a bunch
Speaker 1: of close games. Is here if you go back and
Speaker 1: look so without Napier that that scares me a little bit.
Speaker 1: The spread is less than a touchdown, so I think
Speaker 1: Vegas sort of feels it too right. I'm inclined to
Speaker 1: go Marshall plus the six if you're a better and
Speaker 1: maybe Marshall to the tune of ten confidence points here. Altt,
Speaker 1: you really like Marshall here? I do?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I like Louisiana big. I know it's the
Speaker 2: new coach thing, but I thought that was all handled
Speaker 2: really well by Billy and Apier, like it was a
Speaker 2: very direct It was as well as one could have
Speaker 2: handled it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He took the job. But he's saying I'm coaching out
Speaker 2: the year, the regular season year. I'm not coaching in
Speaker 2: the bowl game. But I thought the vibes were strong,
Speaker 2: there was an internal promotion.
Speaker 1: At head coach.
Speaker 2: I just I think things are okay. I think there's
Speaker 2: an excitement still around the Rage and Cajun's. And while
Speaker 2: I think Marshall is good, little two turnover prone at
Speaker 2: quarterback in Grant Wells, who has been a really good
Speaker 2: quarterback and wasn't turnover prone, but this year he was,
Speaker 2: and the turnover margin overall like vastly favors Louisiana. I
Speaker 2: know things are random with turnover, but since the defense
Speaker 2: is a relatively even I'm gonna roll with team I
Speaker 2: just think is better. And that's Louisiana.
Speaker 1: So we disagree, we disagree. I understand it. I understand it.
Speaker 1: But you know you gotta have a code. I have
Speaker 1: a code here that I'm going by.
Speaker 2: Yep, go in Marshall, all right, should mention eat literally
Speaker 2: anywhere in New Orleans? You will do great literally anywhere.
Speaker 2: But if you want something specific, I was recommended by
Speaker 2: a friend.
Speaker 1: Who is from New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Bevy, which is not in like the main French quarter area.
Speaker 2: Bevy seafood amazing, Poe boys.
Speaker 1: Really really strong. Let's go to Monday, the twentieth of December. Yep,
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach Bawl, presented by Tax Act. Tax Act is
Speaker 1: getting in on the game here. I think they sponsor
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Speaker 1: the Myrtle Beach. But you ever been to Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 1: I have not no been in South Carolina. I never
Speaker 1: a Myrtle Beach. I've been there. I played golf there,
Speaker 1: bad end many years ago. Nice, good time, would go back.
Speaker 1: It was a good time. We stayed at a house
Speaker 1: that had a weird owl painting in it, and it
Speaker 1: was one of those deals where the eyes sort of
Speaker 1: tracked you wherever you went in the house, of course,
Speaker 1: and we actually tried to buy it off the owner.
Speaker 1: Why as like a fantasy baseball trophy or something. Oh nice,
Speaker 1: I like that. I we joked, We joked that when
Speaker 1: we weren't there, the owl came out of the painting
Speaker 1: and flew around the house. It was just they had
Speaker 1: that vibe to it, you know, right of course, like
Speaker 1: Vego and Ghostbusters too. They wouldn't sell to us, said
Speaker 1: the painting had too much intrinsic value. They wouldn't. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't sell us the other everybody has a price tie.
Speaker 1: We tried you low balld, we tried, couldn't get it.
Speaker 1: And this game is in Coastal Stadium, right, it's in
Speaker 1: brook Stadium, the Teal Field and Conway. Yeah, yep. Two
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN Old Dominion six and six, getting nine and
Speaker 1: a half against Tulsa. Tulsa also six and six, Dan,
Speaker 1: Where are you at with this game? Oh?
Speaker 2: Do you finished the season strong? To just get here?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: They lost five straight to Liberty, Buffalo, UTEP, Marshall, Western Kentucky,
Speaker 2: all totally decent teams. Maybe not Buffalo, but otherwise totally decent.
Speaker 2: And then one five straight Louisiana Tach I mean, against
Speaker 2: five very bad teams. So I don't really have a
Speaker 2: good gauge on ODU both of these teams. It was
Speaker 2: ODU and Tulsa, Right, Tulsa finished the season relatively strong.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going with the clearly stronger defense here,
Speaker 2: which I think is Tulsa's, especially against the run. I
Speaker 2: just don't like the old dominion offense, especially through the air.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm going Tulsa here with high confidence.
Speaker 1: This is one of those motivation and coach games for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Tulsa. First off, Odeu's had a
Speaker 1: good year. Odi. You didn't play in twenty twenty Ritney
Speaker 1: Ronnie was hired. He didn't play a game. He came
Speaker 1: out early part of the year. They got boat raced
Speaker 1: in a bunch of games against teams that to be fair.
Speaker 1: Were better than them, hm, but it took a while
Speaker 1: to get this thing going. They want a bunch of
Speaker 1: games late. That's how they got to the bowl game.
Speaker 1: So they got to six and six. I think that
Speaker 1: in and of itself is an accomplishment for Ricky Ronnie
Speaker 1: Tulsa's Jekyl and Hyde to me, man, you know, they
Speaker 1: they almost beat Oklahoma State in Cincinnati. They were within
Speaker 1: seven of Ohio State with three minutes to play. They
Speaker 1: beat SMU, which is a nice win, and then also
Speaker 1: they lost to Navy and UC Davis.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, hey, let's put some respect on Dan
Speaker 2: Hawkins and the fight maggies of UC Davis. A lot
Speaker 2: of cows there. Tulsa's also very mistake prone. Their turnover
Speaker 2: margin is one to eighteen nationally, and they recently lost
Speaker 2: a bunch of assistants to TCU, including their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: They lost their line coach to USC had a few
Speaker 2: guys enter the portal. My sense is that Tulsa may
Speaker 2: only care about the big games and they may not
Speaker 2: give a damn about the others. I think ODU is
Speaker 2: thrilled to be here. They're thrilled, pomped to be in
Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach. I don't think Tulsa gives a damn. So
Speaker 2: here's one of those motivation games for me.
Speaker 1: I go, oh to you. I don't think twice about it.
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, tou medium confidence. I might consider the
Speaker 1: plus nine and a half.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm going You've convinced me a little bit.
Speaker 2: Tulsa's recent Bowl history isn't great. They lost barely to
Speaker 2: Mississippi State in twenty twenty, lost the Independence Bowl in
Speaker 2: a shootout in twenty fifteen, same coach Philip Montgomery, and
Speaker 2: they beat Central Michigan killed Central Michigan in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: So in terms of man, I don't know. In terms
Speaker 2: of motivation, I'm gonna go. I'm still going to Tulsa here.
Speaker 2: I'm still good here. I think they're the stronger team.
Speaker 2: I think they have more ways to win. So give
Speaker 2: me the Golden Hurricane.
Speaker 1: Where do you eat in Myrtle Beach? Do you know?
Speaker 2: I do know Myrtle Beach? Well, I have I looked
Speaker 2: up Conway because that's more specific. Rivertown, very solid looking Rivertown,
Speaker 2: Rivertown differently Rivertown, or maybe it's a Riverton is how
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know how to pronounce it, but it
Speaker 2: looks like very good Americans. Different, you know, different directions
Speaker 2: you can go with the menu.
Speaker 1: Tuesday, December twenty first the famous Idaho Potato Bowl in
Speaker 1: Albertson Stadium in Boise. You've been to Boise? You love Boise?
Speaker 1: Where do you eat in Boise?
Speaker 2: So I haven't been to Boise in quite some time,
Speaker 2: but I looked it up and there is a great
Speaker 2: looking breakfast place, maybe with a bit of a Southern inspiration. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say you're getting authentic Southern breakfast
Speaker 2: in Boise, Idaho, but you know you can get great
Speaker 2: ingredients whatever. Tupoulo Honeyolo honey, a great breakfast option. Good
Speaker 2: song too, good song all right?
Speaker 1: Three point thirty ESPN Kent State versus Wyoming, Wyoming favored
Speaker 1: by four Craig Bowl, notably the guy whose head is
Speaker 1: the shape of the oregone right.
Speaker 2: You know, I was really hoping, and look, Oregon hasn't
Speaker 2: hired a coach at the time of this recording. I
Speaker 2: was like, maybe maybe they could get I was ready
Speaker 2: to do a photoshop of Dave Randa's perfectly smooth head.
Speaker 2: Maybe also don't. Nobody can get quite on the Craig
Speaker 2: Bowl level in terms of shape and that Oregon O
Speaker 2: the middle of the O. But I was hoping for
Speaker 2: an Aranda photoshop.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Craig Bowll notably brought over Tim Paulasek from
Speaker 1: Iowa at the start of the year to come over
Speaker 1: and make the offense less predictable. The offense is better
Speaker 1: than last season, but it's very mistake prone. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's almost no explosion, so there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: Iowa in there, a little bit of Iowa on that
Speaker 1: explosion side. But they did throttle Utahs State on the
Speaker 1: road late in the year to get Bowl eligible, so
Speaker 1: there's potential. They're not a bad team. You just don't
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna get the good Wyoming right Maybe
Speaker 1: it'll be this game because Kent State's defense has given
Speaker 1: up a lot of points this season. They played a
Speaker 1: crazy high tempo. I think we see points in this game.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to touch the points bread it's four
Speaker 1: right now, because I think this is a situation where
Speaker 1: the last team with the ball is the one that's
Speaker 1: gonna end up winning. I probably go Wyoming, but I
Speaker 1: don't have a good read on this one. I know
Speaker 1: some folks are high on Kent State, but I'm just
Speaker 1: I didn't see it in that game in the championship
Speaker 1: game last week. So I think I go Wyoming, but
Speaker 1: maybe like eight points. I'm not confident at all.
Speaker 2: Boyse twenty seven hundred plus feet above sea level, Wyoming
Speaker 2: like eleven thousand feet above sea level. That's not true,
Speaker 2: but they are the highest. Anytime you watch a Wyoming
Speaker 2: game in Laramie, you're bound more often than not to
Speaker 2: hear the highest above sea level FBS stadium, town whatever
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 1: And so give me Wyoming is.
Speaker 2: Pulling into the elevation station. Pulling into the elevation station.
Speaker 2: Ty And as much as I love Ken State's offense,
Speaker 2: their defense is as as bad as the Kent State
Speaker 2: offense is good. Wyoming had that stretch in the middle
Speaker 2: of the season that was kind of a disaster. I
Speaker 2: think they scored three points against New Mexico. I want
Speaker 2: to say so maybe they were dealing with key injuries
Speaker 2: or something then, but I'm both with Wyoming here. I'm
Speaker 2: well with Wyoming to cover this game. Low confidence, yea,
Speaker 2: because Wyoming is too all over the place. For me
Speaker 2: to feel anything strongly about them. Low confident in the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: but high confident in two below. Honey for breakfast.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's stay on the twenty first. My favorite game
Speaker 1: of the cycle. Really it is. I told actually, you're
Speaker 1: consistent because I mentioned this to you a few episodes.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know if anything had changed, but continue,
Speaker 1: I'm in man. Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: like smoothies.
Speaker 2: I make a lot of them for my almost three
Speaker 2: year old, and he's into them. They're fine. You know,
Speaker 2: when John bajuice was a thing I would go get.
Speaker 2: I think peach pleasure. Peach pleasure was my my my
Speaker 2: flavor of choice.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't go out of my way for
Speaker 1: smoothies anymore. No. Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl. Frisco also
Speaker 1: having an outsized impact on this Bowl season. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that in a little bit, of course. Toyota Stadium
Speaker 1: is the site of this game seven thirty ESPN. It
Speaker 1: is UTSA the Roadrunners. Do you have the sound? Just
Speaker 1: out of curiosity? Not anymore.
Speaker 2: I replaced it with December to remember, so that's more
Speaker 2: of a catch all Yeah.
Speaker 1: UTSA twelve and one. They are about a field goal favorite.
Speaker 1: Here Against San Diego State, san Diego State went eleven
Speaker 1: and two. As I said, my favorite game of the cycle,
Speaker 1: in part because UTSA may be the story of the
Speaker 1: year in college football. Been incredible. You've got a root
Speaker 1: with your heart here. We got to speak from the chest,
Speaker 1: and speaking from the chest, I love the UTSA Roadrunner story.
Speaker 1: I love what Jeff Trailer did this year. I love
Speaker 1: that he's coming back. I hope they continue to build
Speaker 1: this thing. They knocked off Western Kentucky for the second
Speaker 1: time this season to win Conference USA in a shootout
Speaker 1: a week ago. Meanwhile, San Diego State got drilled in
Speaker 1: the Mount West Championship game against Utah State. Now, they
Speaker 1: were down some guys because of the COVID outbreak, right,
Speaker 1: so how much did that factor in? Probably some? They
Speaker 1: got drilled. San Diego State does not normally give up
Speaker 1: forty six points, so I kind of take that with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt here. But I love the UTSA story.
Speaker 1: They've only been to two previous bowl games, in two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen and then I guess twenty twenty. Both
Speaker 1: were close losses. I take their game against UAB from
Speaker 1: earlier in the year as sort of a poc approof
Speaker 1: of concept, as we say, okay, of course in the
Speaker 1: corporate world, that they can score against a better defense.
Speaker 1: The game's up in Frisco, which is like north of Dallas.
Speaker 1: I think folks will show out for them in this
Speaker 1: game because it's a big deal. It's a big deal
Speaker 1: for UTSA to get to a bowl game. If you
Speaker 1: want a really deep cut, I would also say that
Speaker 1: San Diego State is oh and to all time in
Speaker 1: bowl games in the state of Texas. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: have a really strong lean. I just like UTSA, So
Speaker 1: I'm going to utsa medium confidence. Let's say twenty points.
Speaker 2: I'd like to issue apology. Tupelow Honey's a chain across
Speaker 2: many many states. I retract. I retract my blow Honey
Speaker 2: recommendation for Boise State. I'm gonna say Tony's Pizza. Tony's
Speaker 2: pizza looks very pizza. Tony's, I'll be very specific, Pizzeria Teatro,
Speaker 2: great looking Neapolitan inspired pizza in Boise, Idaho. Tony's Pizzeria Tatro's.
Speaker 2: I retract critic of this show the food that the
Speaker 2: guy that people. I've never come across one in a
Speaker 2: state or live near one. I'm sorry, this is me
Speaker 2: being ignorant.
Speaker 1: To give them food wrecks. I know, what do you
Speaker 1: recommend for a good chicken place? Dan? How about Popeyes?
Speaker 1: That's all true, this is all tie, this is all uh.
Speaker 1: I deserve it all. I hear you.
Speaker 2: But I found I corrected my ways, did I not?
Speaker 2: Within a matter of minutes.
Speaker 1: Also, there is a tupul of honey in Frisco, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, wait minute, there it is.
Speaker 1: It happens, happens mashed.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm pretty sure cocktail bar, good looking
Speaker 2: food in the Frisco area is your recommendation there for
Speaker 2: this game. The best thing this is another Duff Beer game.
Speaker 2: The best thing is the San Diego State defense. The
Speaker 2: worst thing san Diego State offense. I'm going utsa, yeah boy, yeah,
Speaker 2: have the juice. They're favored by a little bit. I
Speaker 2: just I've been hurt. I've been burned by San Diego
Speaker 2: State looking back to that Utah State game. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: stay consistent with how I feel looking back and how
Speaker 2: out of control that got san Diego State on the
Speaker 2: road against the UTSA team. Look, you're right, it was.
Speaker 2: It was out of character the way that they lost
Speaker 2: to North Texas big time. I think it gets fixed.
Speaker 2: I think this is a team with juice. So give
Speaker 2: me the road Runners here.
Speaker 1: All right, Damn, we got eleven more games to go.
Speaker 1: Let's eleven more to go. Let's do it. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to Wednesday, December the twenty second,
Speaker 1: the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl, Yeah, M and G.
Speaker 1: Carter Stadium in Fort Worth, Texas, eight pm on ESPN.
Speaker 1: It is Miszoo at six and six, is Army at
Speaker 1: eight and three? Army is favored? Hmmm in this game, Daniel, interesting,
Speaker 1: what do you think.
Speaker 2: So Army's defense, weirdly enough, is the best thing in
Speaker 2: this game, especially against the run, which is where we
Speaker 2: know Miszoo likes to make their own.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's not a phrase.
Speaker 2: And the worst thing in this game is Missoo's defense,
Speaker 2: though it's not as if Army's past defense is all
Speaker 2: that strong either. I'm going with Miszoo here. I'm going
Speaker 2: with Miszoo, and it's I don't like going against service
Speaker 2: academies in bowl games. We saw what who did Army
Speaker 2: just absolutely lay the wood against Was it Houston two
Speaker 2: three four years ago?
Speaker 1: Uh? I have to go back and check. But go
Speaker 1: back and look, I remember the game what I believe
Speaker 1: it was Hugh.
Speaker 2: So it pains me, it hurts me because Missoo's defense. No,
Speaker 2: I'm one with the defense. I'm one with army here.
Speaker 2: If I'm talking myself into Missoo, that's dumb. I'm going
Speaker 2: with army here. I know I'm going very favorite heavy
Speaker 2: with my picks. I'm going medium confidence in army here.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the place to eat in this
Speaker 2: is Fort Ware is this game? This is in Fort Worth.
Speaker 2: Are two places I mentioned one of them at the top.
Speaker 2: Goldies looks incredible, the number one barbecue place in Texas
Speaker 2: per Texas Monthly. Whatever strength you put on that rankings,
Speaker 2: and I quote, they trust the meat and the smoke
Speaker 2: more than an arsenal of seasonings. That attention doesn't waver
Speaker 2: when it comes to sides, especially the peppery cheese grits
Speaker 2: and the mustard heavy pork hash. And then they are culinary.
Speaker 2: There are culinary surprises such as the nupon in thousays
Speaker 2: Laotian sausage. Take a chunk mash it into a bit
Speaker 2: of sticky rice and dunk the combo into spicy sour
Speaker 2: jow salm sauce. Your eyes will open wide as you
Speaker 2: gaze at the new horizons of Texas barbecue.
Speaker 1: Give that person the pulitzer who wrote that. I think
Speaker 1: Daniel Vaughan, who is the Who's a nice dude. I've
Speaker 1: met him. He with the barbecue editor for Texas Monthly.
Speaker 1: Good Lord, I'm Starr. That's Goldie is the other play.
Speaker 2: Another place in the top ten is Panther City in
Speaker 2: the Fort Worth area, very very strong food area, fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 1: This is the Underthink Express Bowl to me two the
Speaker 1: Underthink Express. I'm the conductor of the Underthink Express. In
Speaker 1: this one rare instance, Army runs the crap out of
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, and Maszoo is not good as a
Speaker 1: rush defense totally. They're not good at it. They're not
Speaker 1: good at preventy big plays on the ground either, horribling.
Speaker 1: Army's defense, as you said, not bad. They're above average,
Speaker 1: if not pretty good at stopping the run. Massoo's crazy
Speaker 1: one dimensional with Tyler Batty. I believe Tyler Batty at
Speaker 1: time of recording is playing in this game. But I
Speaker 1: also saw that Maszoo is now having an open competition
Speaker 1: at quarterback, which is never a good sign going into
Speaker 1: a bowl game, especially against the Service academy. You mentioned it,
Speaker 1: Service academies. Say what you want about the Service academies,
Speaker 1: they are usually very disciplined and to some extent difficult
Speaker 1: to prepare for. Maybe not so much in a bowl
Speaker 1: setting where you've got more time and more build up,
Speaker 1: but definitely on a week two week basis, if you're
Speaker 1: playing Army or Navy, it's just so different from most
Speaker 1: of what you would prepare for otherwise that it can
Speaker 1: present a unique challenge. Hmm. If you're not all on
Speaker 1: the same page, it's problematic going into a bowl game
Speaker 1: like this. So I'm gonna Army. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see if the line goes down too. Right now,
Speaker 1: they're favored by three and a half. I would expect
Speaker 1: folks are going to look at this game and say, wait,
Speaker 1: an SEC team against the Service Academy, and then they're
Speaker 1: going to put their money on the Zoo. And it's
Speaker 1: at that moment that I will take Army plus whatever.
Speaker 1: I would love to take Army getting points here.
Speaker 2: Tyler Bady is playing. By the way, the last I
Speaker 2: saw is he wanted to play. And you're right, missoo
Speaker 2: up front, they just get pushed around exclusively, exclusively. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not good. Soeh, medium confidence. I'm with you on Army.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to Frisco. Dan, back to
Speaker 1: Frisco the Frisco Football Classic, also at Toyota Stadium. Also,
Speaker 1: we really must preview this. It's the fun fact of
Speaker 1: Bowl season. I know they made it up. They made
Speaker 1: it a literally made it up. They made it up.
Speaker 1: There were more Bowl eligible teams then they knew what
Speaker 1: to do with and so ESPN and you know whoever
Speaker 1: runs the Bowl thing, they just added it willy nilly
Speaker 1: like a week ago. How can we not talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's limited edition one of one Frisco Bowl,
Speaker 1: Frisco Football Classic excuse me ephemoral ephemeral Bowl plus Snapchat
Speaker 1: three thirty ESPN December the twenty third. Texas the mean
Speaker 1: Green at six and six. Miami Ohio also at six
Speaker 1: and six. Miami Ohio is favored by four points. North
Speaker 1: Texas started one in six, they finished five and zero.
Speaker 1: They did beat UTSA. It was Utsa's only loss as
Speaker 1: you said earlier, the schedule was harder earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: But they just they honestly didn't play well. Didn't matter
Speaker 1: who they played, they didn't play well. I don't really
Speaker 1: think they're that good if and being honest with you here,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that utsa win came from. Kudos
Speaker 1: to them for pulling it off. Miami Ohio at least
Speaker 1: you can say, is okay. Right, They're okay. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of big play potential in this game, which may
Speaker 1: make it very watchable. But I kind of think North
Speaker 1: Texas is mud. They're just not good, So I consider
Speaker 1: taking the minus four. I don't know much about either
Speaker 1: of these teams, so I'm going out in a limb here,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying Miami Ohio high confidence, like thirty two points.
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I'm going Miami as well.
Speaker 2: You know, if I've taken a dog yet, this is
Speaker 2: really bad. I'm going Miami Ohio to eke this one out.
Speaker 2: North Texas is not very good. They just they've struggled,
Speaker 2: especially throwing the ball, which is very strange to say
Speaker 2: by the Seth Latrell team. So I'm going, God, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm going I'm anti Mac though, so you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna go North Texas here, I'm going
Speaker 2: North Texas. I think they're gonna get their act together.
Speaker 2: This is the game I think is Miami's. Miami's defense
Speaker 2: is better, North Texas is. Yeah, North Texas is slightly
Speaker 2: worse defensively, but I'm still gonna go with the Me
Speaker 2: and Green here. This is my exception game. Also go
Speaker 2: with the Aussie grind for a great Australian breakfast in Frisco, Texas.
Speaker 1: Brecky Brecky Union Home Mortgage, Gasparria Ball, Yeah, Gasperilla, Raymond
Speaker 1: James Stadium in Tampa, seven pm ESPN. It's UCF eight
Speaker 1: and four Florida six and six Florida favored by a touchdown.
Speaker 1: We discussed it earlier the Gasparilla Pirate Festival to parade
Speaker 1: a host of related community events held in Tampa, Florida,
Speaker 1: almost every year since nineteen oh four. Yeah, got too.
Speaker 1: Florida teams in this game, perhaps very fitting, got the
Speaker 1: Pirate ship in the one one end zone of Raymond
Speaker 1: James Stadium. So it's it's thematic here. They're committing to
Speaker 1: the bit. I like it, don't even think about touching
Speaker 1: the points right here. Just don't do it. I have
Speaker 1: no idea if Florida gives it damn at all. If
Speaker 1: they care, and that is, if they care, they should
Speaker 1: be able to handle UCF in my view. Okay, but
Speaker 1: got an interim coach, They got some guys who are
Speaker 1: going to probably opt out. I haven't seen it yet
Speaker 1: by but kyer Elam, Zachary Carter mm hmm. Jacob Copeland's
Speaker 1: already in the transfer portal a receiver. Yep. I don't
Speaker 1: think UCS all that good. But the counterpoint is that
Speaker 1: they don't really need to be to go toe to
Speaker 1: toe with Florida the way they've finished out. I'm very
Speaker 1: mixed on this game. My hunch is to go Florida
Speaker 1: high confidence, but I recognize openly that that's a pretty
Speaker 1: big risk.
Speaker 2: I'm going Florida high confidence because I think the talent
Speaker 2: is still there. I think there's a sense of relief
Speaker 2: that they're moving on, that they know who their next
Speaker 2: coach is going to be. And maybe this is when
Speaker 2: dudes may perhaps younger dudes are playing especially hard to
Speaker 2: impress the new staff in a game situation, UCF still
Speaker 2: obviously relying on a not a transfer on a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Of course, after Dylan Gabriel out for the season, now
Speaker 2: into the portal have not been able to throw the
Speaker 2: ball worth a damn no back half of the season.
Speaker 2: So now I'm going Florida here. I'm going with Florida
Speaker 2: here to establish dominance in this matchup of interstate squads.
Speaker 1: I've been workshopping a theory that I may consider adding
Speaker 1: depending on how this Bowl season goes. Because, as you know,
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of schools with new coaches now
Speaker 1: most of them. Most of them aren't in bold, but
Speaker 1: the ones that are, I am curious to see if
Speaker 1: there is any kind of motivation factor in hopes of
Speaker 1: impressing the new coach, trying to get on the board
Speaker 1: early before twenty twenty two on that depth chart. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any way to back that up,
Speaker 1: but that's just where I'm at. Okay, let's go to Friday.
Speaker 1: It's Christmas Eve. It's the easy post, easy post. What's that,
Speaker 1: don't know? You tell me TI, easy Post?
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Speaker 1: Great, Yeah. Clarence TC Ching Athletics Complex in Honolulu, Hawaii,
Speaker 1: eight pm Christmas Eve on ESPN. Memphis at six and six,
Speaker 1: Hawaii at six and seven. We talked about this one earlier.
Speaker 1: I think we feel similarly here. Memphis has been all
Speaker 1: over the map this year, all over the mat. They
Speaker 1: beat Mississippi State, they lost to Temple, they beat SMU,
Speaker 1: barely lost to UTSA Hawaii. Hawaii has played well at home.
Speaker 1: They knocked off Fresno when Fresno came to town back
Speaker 1: in week five. But then there's this tweet from Mark
Speaker 1: Delucci of SFGate dot com. Quote significant questions about the
Speaker 1: state of the University of Hawaii at Manoa football program
Speaker 1: under head coach Todd Graham. Players I spoke with accused
Speaker 1: Graham of verbal abuse, rampant favoritism, and killing their love
Speaker 1: of football. Yeah, nothing to be taken lightly. Javon Cordero
Speaker 1: day day Hunter are transferring datae Hunters the leading rusher.
Speaker 1: This does not seem like a great scenario for Hawaii,
Speaker 1: even in a home bowl game. Dan, Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think I go Memphis.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a long plane ride to Paradise, and
Speaker 2: can get distracted by going to Hawaii. I think I'm
Speaker 2: still going with the Warriors here. I can't trust Memphis.
Speaker 2: What is the line at time of speaking? What is
Speaker 2: that the Vegas evaluation? Even though that we're going with confidence.
Speaker 1: Memphis by three and a half, I'm going to Hawaii
Speaker 1: low confidence. That's a long way road game. That's a
Speaker 1: that's like a ten hour flight, isn't it at least? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like six five and a half six from La.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay medium confidence and I'm gonna go Memphis.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going low Hawaii. But if twenty is
Speaker 1: my threshold, this is like nineteen or twenty, it's right,
Speaker 1: it's it's a risk. You got to take a risk
Speaker 1: in a confidence pool. Memphis does not have a good defense.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not there. Sorry. All right, Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the tax Act Chamelea Bowl tax Act again
Speaker 1: getting in on the action here. It's where your taxes go.
Speaker 1: This one's on Christmas Day in the Crampton Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 1: By the way, where do you eat in Honolulu? Do
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: I don't have a place. I apologize. I'll look it
Speaker 2: up as you're describing this game.
Speaker 1: Find a nice fusion restaurant out there. That's what I
Speaker 1: ate at they.
Speaker 2: Don't need to fuse. It's already all there. Hawaii is
Speaker 2: a melting pot of cultures. It is in and of
Speaker 2: itself a fusion culture Tax Act.
Speaker 1: Camellia Bowl Christmas Day. Yeah, play this one again a
Speaker 1: mobile two thirty ESPN. Georgia State seven and five, Ball
Speaker 1: State six and six. I was real high on ball
Speaker 1: State going into twenty twenty one. They had a good
Speaker 1: campaign in twenty twenty. This year, the bottom kind of
Speaker 1: fell out. Ture Bill Connolly says they were a four
Speaker 1: and a half win team that somehow got to six.
Speaker 1: This is Georgia State's third straight bowl game. I think
Speaker 1: they win this one hand handily. I am on Georgia
Speaker 1: State here, high confidence, and I would probably consider jumping
Speaker 1: on that three and a half. It may come down
Speaker 1: before kickoff, but I feel pretty good about Georgia State here,
Speaker 1: as do I. Ball State is terrible at efense.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're very good. Georgia State across
Speaker 2: the board. They're just better than Ball State. They run
Speaker 2: the ball, they stop the pass. I'm just yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: going with Georgia State here by you know a couple
Speaker 2: of touchdowns, high confidence and as you are saying, Dan
Speaker 2: is right. You can eat a wishbone and have some
Speaker 2: delicious cage and seafood.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: Also, Goofy is the name of a diner and cafe
Speaker 2: in Honolulu that looks really good.
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, that's it, Goofy Cafe and dine. Go to
Speaker 1: Monday twenty seventh. Let's go up the Ford Field in Detroit. Dan,
Speaker 1: go on again. I've got Rex eleven o'clock on ESPN,
Speaker 1: Western Michigan at seven and five, Nevada at eight and four. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's talk about a good matchup here. Novada,
Speaker 1: Nevada losing a coach, yep. Nevada is the more consistent
Speaker 1: team on paper, especially with Carson Strong at the helm.
Speaker 1: He had a great season forty two hundred passing yards,
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns. This is a pass happy team and
Speaker 1: they are definitely more consistent than Western Michigan. However, the
Speaker 1: venerable J. Norvelder coach left went to Colorado State. Their
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is leaving for Wazoo. I think we're going
Speaker 1: to be in a situation here where Carson Strong, Romeo Dubbs,
Speaker 1: and Cole Turner all opt out for the Bowl Game.
Speaker 1: In a scenario like that, if those guys are out,
Speaker 1: I'm on our guy, Caleb Bellobie Man low confidence, low confidence,
Speaker 1: but I might consider bumping it up if all three
Speaker 1: of those guys for Nevada are out. Kind of a
Speaker 1: home game for Western. We liked Western a lot going
Speaker 1: into the year. Maybe it didn't quite materialize the way
Speaker 1: we thought, But I just think external factors here keep
Speaker 1: me on Western instead of Nevada. Otherwise I go Nevada.
Speaker 1: Nevada is favored by a touchdown, but I'm going Western. Ah.
Speaker 2: This is another one of those situations where the Western
Speaker 2: defense scares me. They are one of the absolute worst
Speaker 2: big play defense allowing situations in the country, and Nevada,
Speaker 2: when healthy and when operating at full capacity, would be
Speaker 2: a team able to take advantage of that, presumably, But
Speaker 2: Nevada doesn't run the ball that well, and you're saying
Speaker 2: they are expecting opt outs. Western Michigan certainly much more
Speaker 2: of a home game in Detroit than than what Nevada has. Situationally,
Speaker 2: I am still gonna go Nevada. I think there are
Speaker 2: more talented team, and Western's defense scares me enough that
Speaker 2: I'm going with the wolf pack here. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 2: with the wolf pack here. Load a medium somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: Twelve fourteen points confidence Sister Pie for standard pies, great
Speaker 2: looking pies at Sister Pie, and then Pie Si like
Speaker 2: sci very creative pizzas the greater Detroit area Pie Pi.
Speaker 2: You said Detroit's a strong food area.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, very strong food. All right, it is.
Speaker 2: It is very diverse, especially with Middle Eastern options. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can do very very well in Detroit eating.
Speaker 1: What about Annapolis, Dan, have you ever been to Annapolis? No? No,
Speaker 1: I have not, have you. I think I've been through Annapolis,
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. In their friend Tim Murray,
Speaker 1: isn't he somebody who used to live in Annapolis? I
Speaker 1: think so. Probably he's big in the DMV. He knows
Speaker 1: all about the DMV. Okay, the Military Bowl presented by Perroton.
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Speaker 1: Boston College versus East Carolina BC is a three and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. There's six and six. East Carolina
Speaker 1: is seven and five two thirty on the twenty seventh
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I like Boston College here. I like ACU.
Speaker 1: I like I. I like the ECU story more than
Speaker 1: I like ECU. Okay, I like what Mike Houston has done.
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. Got the program to seven wins, got
Speaker 1: the extension right, mm hmmm. I I just think it's
Speaker 1: a different BC team with Phil Jerkovic, who is coming
Speaker 1: back next season. I don't know if you saw that announcement,
Speaker 1: but I didn't say that. Yeah, came back from injury
Speaker 1: this season and they were marginally better. I thought they're
Speaker 1: going to benefit from three extra weeks of practice here.
Speaker 1: So I like BC. I'm going high confidence.
Speaker 2: I like ECU here. I think it's a motivation thing.
Speaker 2: Their defenses aren't so different. If you're b C, certainly
Speaker 2: you're happy to have your COVID back for this game
Speaker 2: and beyond, but you get ECU and Annapolis Maryland as
Speaker 2: a bold destination. No disrespect to Anapolis Maryland, but you're
Speaker 2: comparing it against you know, Southern States are going out
Speaker 2: west something warm, and I just don't know if you're
Speaker 2: you're up for this game, but you might be up
Speaker 2: for the Iron Roost for breakfast at Iron Rooster, which
Speaker 2: looks like a really nice breakfast transition, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: But no, the best thing in this game is Boston
Speaker 2: College is defense. The worst thing is ECU on defense,
Speaker 2: in particular their run defense. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: Boston College is built to take advantage. I know they
Speaker 2: really ran the ball well early on middle of the
Speaker 2: season at garwo action. Yeah, I'm going to ECU here.
Speaker 2: They finished strong. They went four or five, including a
Speaker 2: win over Tis Memphis Tigers. The Memphis it was kind
Speaker 2: of a toss up loss to Houston.
Speaker 1: I'm going with ECU here.
Speaker 2: My guy Holton Naylor's all right, whatever, Yeah, it's go
Speaker 2: low confidence, low confidence.
Speaker 1: I'm BC hot confidence, man, I'll go home. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go to the tickets. Smarter Birmingham Bull Tuesday, December the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. They play it at Protective Stadium in Birmingham, Alabama,
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock ESPN Houston against Auburn Dan. This is a
Speaker 1: great matchup, interesting matchup. Houston eleven in two, Auburn six
Speaker 1: and six. They're favored by three. I haven't seen yet
Speaker 1: if Roger McCreery, the corner for Auburn, is gonna play
Speaker 1: in the game or not. There's also been some speculation.
Speaker 1: I mean, we may have resolution on this by the
Speaker 1: time Monday rolls around in this podcast actually drops, but
Speaker 1: there has been some some rumors out there in the
Speaker 1: Twitter sphere about Brian Harson and that Oregon job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's relatively low but yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens there. I guess we can
Speaker 1: revisit if there is a need to, but just something
Speaker 1: to keep in the back of your mind. We're recording
Speaker 1: again on Friday the tenth. We may have an answer
Speaker 1: on that Oregon situation before long. But I either way,
Speaker 1: either way here, it's low confidence for me because I
Speaker 1: don't trust either team. I don't really trust either team.
Speaker 1: I do question Auburn's motivation though, I wonder if it's
Speaker 1: a letdown thing, like who cares about Houston? We could
Speaker 1: have beaten Alabama. Sure, I still think I'm on Auburn.
Speaker 1: I still it's low confidence. I still think I'm on
Speaker 1: Auburn here with like nine points. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The strongest thing this game is Houston's defense, especially against
Speaker 2: the pass, which is not what Auburn has been doing
Speaker 2: well as of late with TJ.
Speaker 1: Finley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just everything involved in passing, passing it, stopping the
Speaker 2: pass has not been Auburn's thing this year. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with Houston. I think Houston. If we're gonna say
Speaker 2: who's up for this game, who's got a defense? I
Speaker 2: think check check Houston.
Speaker 1: They are.
Speaker 2: They are the team I'm rolling with, just like I'm
Speaker 2: rolling with. Carrigan's a great option that has a rooftop
Speaker 2: situation that built a bunch of beer taps into like
Speaker 2: an old jeep to a retro jeep. I think, just experientially,
Speaker 2: let's speak in my language, man, I think you would
Speaker 2: like Carrigan's ty good looking fries.
Speaker 1: Send me the link. Can you slack me the link? Yeah? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I can.
Speaker 2: I want to see this in Birmingham, right in Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 2: I've driven through Birmingham, I've been Rashingham.
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, seems like a cool place.
Speaker 2: Got some friends in Birmingham. Here you go, Ty, Here's
Speaker 2: what Kerrigan's is working with. We're doing this long free
Speaker 2: commercial for what reason unclear. Kind of a gastro pub feel.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that. Oh I like that. I
Speaker 1: like up your alley? Do you want to go to
Speaker 1: this game?
Speaker 2: I suddenly do. How long of a drive is hit
Speaker 2: from the Chicago burbs?
Speaker 1: All right, you look that up. We're gonna move on here.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Serve Pro First Responderbowl Gerald J.
Speaker 1: Ford Stadium in Dallas three point fifteen pm Eastern time
Speaker 1: again on the twenty eighth of December. Now air Force
Speaker 1: nine and three Louisville Louisville six and six, Louisville favored
Speaker 1: by about a point and a half. That's kind of
Speaker 1: all over the map right now, that's jumping around. We
Speaker 1: got Scott's sadderfield, who is four to zero in Bowl games.
Speaker 1: It was announced that he is returning as Louisville's coach
Speaker 1: and Mailie Cunningham also announced that he is coming back
Speaker 1: next year, so he's gonna be on board for this game.
Speaker 1: Air Force Dan air Force is pretty good. This is
Speaker 1: a pretty good air Force team. It's a good team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree. They beat Boise, they beat Nevada. They're seventeen
Speaker 1: points away if you add it up from being twelve
Speaker 1: to oh, I am going air Force. I am on
Speaker 1: air Force here because they run, run, run, and that's
Speaker 1: just not a good matchup for Louisville. So I'm saying
Speaker 1: air Force like medium confidence, man, like twenty seven points
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Cheese at Bowl champion air Force from twenty nineteen, Sir,
Speaker 2: I don't know who they beat in twenty In the
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Cheese at Ball Wazoo, they beat a real team, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going with air Force as well as dogs. I
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be difficult for Louisville, who just the
Speaker 2: season to be over after the way they lost to
Speaker 2: Kentucky and the deficiencies they have. I know they had
Speaker 2: to like fire one of the like the code defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator midyear on some was it stalking something like that
Speaker 2: Court Dennison who was at Oregon before.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think things are tumultuous still that if you have
Speaker 2: to announce that your coach is coming back, it's not
Speaker 2: great momentum heading into the off season. Air Force, especially
Speaker 2: their defense is tough to hang with, and you get
Speaker 2: to pick against a Louisville defense that struggled for wide
Speaker 2: stretches of the season. So yeah, I'm going with the
Speaker 2: Falcons here, just like I would go to Norri the
Speaker 2: Nori hand roll bar. It'd be very easy to sit
Speaker 2: back and say, go to Pecon Lodge, go to Cadillac Barbecue.
Speaker 2: You're in Dallas, whatever. Dallas is much more than just barbecue.
Speaker 1: Nori, n o Ri. I love hand rolls, love that
Speaker 1: that quick delicious sushi option. Norri finding Nori. Oh, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not bad. You want to get in the zone. Damn,
Speaker 1: I live in the zone. Tie, Let's get in the zone.
Speaker 1: The AutoZone Liberty Bowl played at Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium
Speaker 1: in Memphis, six forty five On the twenty eighth on ESPN,
Speaker 1: it is Mississippi State minus nine. The Mike Leach Bowl
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, Buddy, uh Tech in transition Sunny Comby coaching
Speaker 1: the team for Tech. To me, this has the makings.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if Mike Leach
Speaker 1: has this bone in his body, But if ever there
Speaker 1: were one somewhere. This seems like the kind of game
Speaker 1: where Mike Leach would run it up in a bowl game,
Speaker 1: like this means something to him, because doesn't he still
Speaker 1: think that they owe a millions of dollars million? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely he does. So there's like there's that edge there
Speaker 1: for Leech, and I wonder if he puts a little
Speaker 1: extra elbow grease into it because of that personal thing.
Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy who would carry
Speaker 1: a grudge even though he's low. He and the pirate
Speaker 1: guy and he likes Key West and all. That's like,
Speaker 1: it seems to me like he might go for the
Speaker 1: throat in this one.
Speaker 2: That would be my assumption, especially against the Texas Tech
Speaker 2: team without a full time head coach coaching in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going Misissippi State, high confidence.
Speaker 1: I think I am as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can eat very well in Memphis, go
Speaker 2: find you know, go to Central Barbecue wherever. But yeah,
Speaker 2: with this game, Yeah, I'm I'm going with Mississippi State here.
Speaker 2: They they are passing game, while not especially explosive downfield
Speaker 2: all the time, It's very difficult to defend, and Texas
Speaker 2: Tech was stronger against the run than the pass. So
Speaker 2: I think it's a nice matchup either way. Mississippi State
Speaker 2: going out on a high note, you know, disappointing Egg Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to klanga klanga here in. This game is
Speaker 2: in Memphis, right, yeah, Memphis, Yeah, not terribly far.
Speaker 1: Two more games, let's do it m the San Diego
Speaker 1: County Credit Union Holiday Bowl. They play it now at Petco,
Speaker 1: where the Pets go.
Speaker 2: At Baseball Am which supposedly, by the way, Petco itself
Speaker 2: great food options within the stadium. Within the stadium, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: very apparently really strong concessions as it relates to other
Speaker 2: baseball stadiums. I forget where solid wife Kate and I
Speaker 2: went outside of Petco because we were in San Diego,
Speaker 2: right a couple of years back.
Speaker 1: There's i mean great San Diego's great food overall. But yeah,
Speaker 1: went to a couple great places. I love San Diego.
Speaker 1: Nice eight pm on Fox UCLA against n C State.
Speaker 1: The Holiday Bowl usually has a good matchup. It does
Speaker 1: again this year. NC State favored by one. I think
Speaker 1: I am all in on NC State here, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think I'm all in on NC State. I think I'm
Speaker 1: all in. I say all in, but I only mean
Speaker 1: medium confidence. You are somewhat in. I'm somewhat all in yeah,
Speaker 1: on NC State here because I just feel like they
Speaker 1: are the better team. I feel like they are the
Speaker 1: better team, and I feel like on the heels of
Speaker 1: an otherwise pretty successful season, there will be motivation here
Speaker 1: to finish the job. I'm not sure where UCLA is at,
Speaker 1: and again, we're recording this on a Friday. Are you
Speaker 1: getting pumped up to play against to travel across the
Speaker 1: country to play Ucla if you're NC State? Not necessarily,
Speaker 1: but is UCLA going to be in a position where
Speaker 1: they care about this game? Is their coach going to
Speaker 1: be there at UCLA's That's a good question. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I I question the motivation more on the UCLA side
Speaker 1: than I do NC State. NC State's a veteran laden squad. True,
Speaker 1: I don't know what their opt out situation will be,
Speaker 1: if there will be one, but I gotta believe that
Speaker 1: group of seniors is going to want to close this
Speaker 1: thing out strong, and I don't know if UCLA gives
Speaker 1: a damn. So let's go NC State medium confidence.
Speaker 2: I'm going NC State medium confidence as well, just because
Speaker 2: of the pronounced advantage on defense, and I think it travels.
Speaker 2: NC State one of those teams that, yeah, I basically
Speaker 2: played well all season long, other than who they get
Speaker 2: blown out by Mississippi State early on. Yeah, yeah, believe
Speaker 2: so other than that game, they've played really hard and
Speaker 2: they've been competitive, and UCLA just their defense is not
Speaker 2: at all good. So I think NC State has a
Speaker 2: really nice day in San Diego. Medium confidence. Also, I
Speaker 2: know I have a lot of San Diego recommendations, but
Speaker 2: I looked up to see places I didn't know. Crack Shack,
Speaker 2: an extremely popular fried chicken place. The crack Shack weird name.
Speaker 1: I'll gui see that. But uh, strong looking chicken. I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it all right, deep breath, longer
Speaker 1: show than usual. But the final game of this episode, Yes,
Speaker 1: the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. Oh what a bull? What a bull?
Speaker 1: What about the best of the bulls, the guaranteed Rate
Speaker 1: Bull guarantee that rate at Chase Field, Phoenix, Arizona. I've been.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Ten to fifteen pm Eastern time on ESPN.
Speaker 1: It is West Virginia, it is Minnesota. Minnesota is favored
Speaker 1: by five in this game. Who is the better team
Speaker 1: in this game. By the way, Minnesota, you feel strongly
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a great defense. Joe Rossi has done
Speaker 2: a really great job, very quietly with that Minnesota defense.
Speaker 2: They don't have like an elite pass rusher, they don't
Speaker 2: get after the quarterback and all that consistent away, but
Speaker 2: against the run, they they're just they're very sound defensively,
Speaker 2: and on offense they're fine, obviously dealing with injuries and
Speaker 2: inconsistent play at receiver. But yeah, Minnesota's defense and a
Speaker 2: particular strength I guess against where West Virginia is especially
Speaker 2: inconsistent on offense. I just think I think West Virginia
Speaker 2: was fine at times this year, but I'm rolling with
Speaker 2: that defense. I think it travels Minnesota here by seven
Speaker 2: to twelve points, and look, worst case scenario is West Virginia.
Speaker 2: It's beat up, but they still get to go to
Speaker 2: Pizzeria Bianco in a couple locations in the Greater Phoenix area,
Speaker 2: which I think is one of the best pizza places
Speaker 2: I've been to.
Speaker 1: I love it. I've heard good things about Phoenix as
Speaker 1: a food town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix, says, well, there's a couple good barbecue options.
Speaker 2: You can get good Mexican Italian because there is there's
Speaker 2: a big migration of New Yorkers and Chicago WANs to Arizona.
Speaker 2: So with that comes some good food places.
Speaker 1: I'm on Minnesota here. What's your level of confidence. You're
Speaker 1: going high confidence, right?
Speaker 2: I am going, yeah, medium high confidence in Minnesota here.
Speaker 1: I think I am too. I think upper twenties, low thirties.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about.
Speaker 2: And also Tanner Morgan announce he's coming back for his
Speaker 2: tenth year, so there's all sorts of anniversary stuff built
Speaker 2: around that. Now Minnesota, by the way, I'm seeing number
Speaker 2: one in the nation in goal to go touchdown rate,
Speaker 2: so they finish their drives at least when they're close.
Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota. I feel good about Golden Gophers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, that does it.
Speaker 2: Wow, Man, Marathon, I still haven't eaten today, and it's
Speaker 2: one forty time.
Speaker 1: Neither of I running on fumes here talking about good places,
Speaker 1: talking about bowl games, trying to exude confidence wherever it's
Speaker 1: embarrassed by that that Tupelo honey thing. So embarrassed. Nobody's
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Speaker 2: Did you have Brent Venables hiring defensive coordinator Ted Roof
Speaker 2: on your bingo car? Oh no, no, you mean it's
Speaker 2: probably the defense. But that's not real, is it. It's
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent real. Come on, Bill Connolly with
Speaker 2: quote Ted Roof defensive coordinator for Blue Blood School in
Speaker 2: twenty two. Twenty twenty two is not something I saw coming.
Speaker 2: He was an analysts in last season.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that, Doki.
Speaker 1: Is that his first hire? Dope?
Speaker 2: He uh no, I mean he hired Levy uh to
Speaker 2: run his offense, Jeff Lebby, and he's retaining Bed and
Speaker 2: Bob Eatenbaugh the offensive line coach, the excellent offensive line coach.
Speaker 2: So his staff is coming together nicely. But yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: dok man ted Roof, Yeah, last scene coordinating the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty I think it was Vandy defense man.
Speaker 1: We had a joke about a leaky roof when he
Speaker 1: was at Penn State. He must be the nicest guy
Speaker 1: in the world. He's not good as a coordinator, but
Speaker 1: he interviews well.
Speaker 2: So since two since he was the head coach at
Speaker 2: Duke two thousand and seven, Minnesota defensive coordinator, Auburn defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: UCF defensive coordinator, Penn State defensive coordinator, Georgia Tech defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: and See State defensive coordinator, app State defensive coordinator, Vandy
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Ted Roof will help you move. He will
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Speaker 2: He is there for you with a holiday card.
Speaker 1: He's there. He's just my God. That's brutal and good
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