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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tie Welcome back to these solid verbal

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brandt. That

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I haven't eaten anything today. It's twelve fifteen

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Speaker 2: local time, it's lunchtime. And as part of the fun

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Speaker 2: I like to live vicariously through people going to various

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I would eat at Goldies. I would ey at.

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Speaker 2: Goldies and Fort Worth number one barbecue place in Texas

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Speaker 1: It looks amazing. So now I'm starving as we headed

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Speaker 1: too episode one. So here we are, here we are.

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Speaker 1: We are recording this on Friday, December the tenth, So

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Speaker 1: if anything big breaks over the weekend, don't blame us.

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Speaker 1: We're doing our best here to get out in front

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Speaker 1: got a big contest that we're running over on Playwinterwonders

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Speaker 1: dot Com for our Patreon community. It's a bowl confidence pool.

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Speaker 1: And what we're trying to do this show and next

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you my picks for each of

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Speaker 1: You know that I've got theories. They're not quite conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 2: we can do an addendum to these Bowl previews talking

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It's not there yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is not your finest work, but you'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise No, Now, I don't have that, but I have

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Speaker 1: And the third and most important rule in bowl season,

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Speaker 1: For sure. You've watched college football the same way Dan

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Speaker 2: Maybe don't pick Hawaiian in that game. Just I hope

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Speaker 1: Which team actually wants to be there is the most

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Speaker 2: I am going to go a little bit simpler. I

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Speaker 2: absent major drama among the coaching ranks, or any reason,

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Speaker 1: But Playwinterwonders dot Com is where you can get your

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Speaker 1: Low would be anything anything less than twenty. That makes

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Speaker 1: before this. It's the Bahamas Bowl. They played at Thomas A.

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Speaker 1: on ESPN, like most of the games are. Middle Tennessee

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Speaker 1: put this dock together, Toledo was favored by about nine

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Speaker 2: Hum a little bit. Yeah, I think it's I'm looking

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the Toledo defense is the best thing in

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Speaker 1: I really like Middle Tennessee, especially with the points I

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Speaker 1: I think the tendency with Toledo will be to look

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Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee played the number one, twenty nine, one, sixteen,

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Speaker 2: picking out right right, cool, all right, take, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with it. Just go with it, Dan, Okay,

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Speaker 1: have fun with it. Let's go to the tail Greater

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Speaker 1: Cure Bowl. They played at Exploria Stadium whatever that is,

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Speaker 1: in Orlando, Dan, six pm. Also in the seventeenth this

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Speaker 1: Illinois the Huskies at nine to four, Coastal Carolina at

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Speaker 1: ten and two. They're about a ten point favorite.

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Speaker 2: You going shans here? Oh yeah, Grace and McCall healthy

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Speaker 2: give me Coastal.

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Speaker 1: I'm going forty four points on Coastal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take. I'm taking mid to high thirties.

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Speaker 1: We put it all on Coastal. Get it out of

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Speaker 2: I don't have an Orlando recommendation. The last time I

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Saturday, this one at eleven am Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: The roofclaim dot com Boca ratone Bowl. This one Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the same of the eighteenth. They played at Fau's Stadium

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Speaker 1: in Boca's. Western Kentucky and app State. App State is

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Speaker 2: Do's agree, go with the defense and a shootout, go

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Speaker 2: the toff beer?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is it the to alcohol? The cause and solution to

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Western Kentucky's ability to move the ball, and the worst

432
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Speaker 2: thing is their lack of ability to stop the ball,

433
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Speaker 2: especially on the ground. Even even though app State isn't

434
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Speaker 2: a terrific running team like they have been in previous years,

435
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Speaker 2: I go with the team where if I expect points,

436
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Speaker 2: I want the team that can get the stops. I

437
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Speaker 2: know we talk about taking the points in a shootout,

438
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Speaker 2: but it's what three three and a half points here?

439
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Speaker 2: Confidence wise, it's medium, but I am going to go

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Speaker 2: with the team that doesn't have a putrid part of

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Speaker 2: their defense. So as much as I love WKU and

442
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Speaker 2: I do think Bailey's Appy is going to get his

443
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Speaker 2: go for four hundred plus yards, I'm still once again

444
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Speaker 2: going with app State here to the tune of medium

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Speaker 2: confidence and Ramen Lab, which I've actually been to in

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Speaker 2: the Momen lab Ramen Lab like right name, Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: good place. It's a good hearty bowl of ram and

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Speaker 2: Oh love very good now, very very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you spell that? Bao? If you gave

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Speaker 1: It just bow Yeah. The PUBG Mobile new Mexico Bowl

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Speaker 1: PUBG mobile game in case you're wondering, University Stadium in Albuquerque,

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Speaker 1: New Mexico, two fifteen on ESPN on Saturday, the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: of December. UTIP at seven and five, Fresno State at

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Speaker 1: nine and three. So here is one of those games

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Speaker 1: that I referenced very top. Kaylen de borr is off

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Speaker 1: to Washington. No, he's not, Oh, Kaylen de bor is.

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Speaker 1: Jake Haner coming on back. Jake Caner coming on back

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Speaker 1: with the untransfer. Yes, the untransfer. Kaylen de bor gone.

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Speaker 1: Jake Caner was transferring and out, not transferring. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's playing.

463
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Speaker 2: No, he's close with Jeff Tedford, so he you know,

464
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Speaker 2: Jeff Tedford getting the job again once again. He's coming

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Speaker 2: decided to come back.

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Speaker 1: Jake Haner coming back. Have not seen if he's playing

467
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Speaker 1: in the ball. I'm assuming he will, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any kind of paperwork he

469
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Speaker 1: needs a file to get back in the game. But

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Speaker 1: to remove the name. Yeah, normally I would go the

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Speaker 1: other way and I would say UTEP because of the turnover.

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Speaker 1: But we followed Fresno all year Dan and they are

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Speaker 1: legitimately a good team. Their opponent, in this case beat

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Speaker 1: just one team inside the S and P Top Top

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Speaker 1: one hundred, excuse me, and that was a one score

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Speaker 1: win over Old Dominion. I like Old Dominion maybe more

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Speaker 1: than anybody else in college football. But I still think

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Speaker 1: that Fresno's got this one. They're about a two touchdown

479
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Speaker 1: favorite here. I don't know if I would take that line,

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Speaker 1: but I will probably go forty three points on Fresno.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm going heavy. This is a

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Speaker 2: high Fresno confidence for me. Jake Hayner is practicing. He

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Speaker 2: did apologize for putting his name in the transfer portal UTEP.

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Speaker 1: He didn't need to apologize, though, did he? Of course?

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Speaker 2: I mean as the as the leader of the team, right,

486
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Speaker 2: he is the heartbeat of as most quarterbacks are of

487
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Speaker 2: successful teams. I get it, I get it where he's

488
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Speaker 2: just maybe it was an emotional reaction, and he's a

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Speaker 2: dog at heart.

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Speaker 1: I guess a Fresno State dog, not a Washington Husky

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Speaker 1: type dog. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Fresno State UTEP certainly improved, their offense is still kind

493
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Speaker 2: of a nightmare Fresno State. You mentioned Hayner and jailely

494
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Speaker 2: cropper guys like that that were very good on offense,

495
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Speaker 2: they were actually led by their defense ultimately in the

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Speaker 2: way that they got stops. They fielded a top twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five is defense, as was UTEP. I just think

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Speaker 2: Fresno State's going to be able to find points in

499
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Speaker 2: more exciting and consistent ways. So I'm going with the

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Speaker 2: Central Valley Zone, the San Joaquin Valley's.

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Speaker 1: Own Fresno State Bulldogs to.

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Speaker 2: The tune of high confidence. Also Ty Subvension real quick

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Speaker 2: burger in the greater Albuquerque area.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, Yeah, moving on, let's go to the Radiance

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Speaker 1: Tell me? I do not. I had no idea, So

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Speaker 1: I went to their website, and on their website, the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're using the labors for this.

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Speaker 1: This this might be some sort of military thing, But.

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Speaker 2: Were you good at laser tag? Was that something that

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Speaker 2: you would have considered a strength on your birthday party circuit.

516
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Speaker 2: As growing up as a kid.

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Speaker 1: There was a place nearby called Planet Trog. Okay ours

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Speaker 1: was qsar. Yeah, yeah, Planet Trog. I believe I was there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I had my own birthday there, but

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Speaker 1: I was definitely there for many a birthday party of course,

521
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Speaker 1: back in the late nineties. And there was a seminal

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Speaker 1: moment in my laser tag care rear where we were

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Speaker 1: out on the floor, you know, just a bunch of

524
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Speaker 1: teenagers running a muck and there was one guy who

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Speaker 1: was He was an older gentleman. Let's say, I don't

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Speaker 1: you don't really have a barometer for how old anybody

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Speaker 1: is when you're when you're that young. But he was

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Speaker 1: in earnest, probably about as old as I am now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: forty plus, and he just wasn't good at it, And

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Speaker 1: so I kept trailing him and tagging him and he

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Speaker 1: didn't know it. And then eventually he found me and

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Speaker 1: sort of got me in the corner and like acted

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Speaker 1: as if he was gonna punch me. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: as one does when playing laser Tag. But I would

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Speaker 1: say significant strength.

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Speaker 2: I could see that, Yeah, you're you're detail oriented and uh,

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Speaker 2: when you get locked in on something, you go for it.

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Speaker 1: Shift.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was very average, but I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I loved I loved Uh. You get to come up

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Speaker 2: with your own nickname. Right, you go bowling, you get

542
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Speaker 2: to put that in the screen. You go laser tag

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Speaker 2: and you see the screen, the scores come up on

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Speaker 2: the screen, and there was there was old Danny Captain

545
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Speaker 2: Winkie was my captain. Day spent anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Radius Technologies, Independence, Bull U A B

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Speaker 1: B y U B YU favored by seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: We know a lot about BYU, don't we. We do.

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about them all year long. UAB has

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Speaker 1: been a good story, hasn't gotten a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: airtime from us. They had the Fuke loss to Rice,

552
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Speaker 1: which isn't great, but their other three losses were to Georgia,

553
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Speaker 1: Liberty and UTSA, which aren't bad losses. No, by any stretch.

554
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: They've got a solid defense. The numbers that I keep

555
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Speaker 1: have this one as about by U minus four, which

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily buy that, And that came

557
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Speaker 1: down from what seven and a half. Well, the line

558
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Speaker 1: is still seven and a half. But I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: I keep says yeah, sorry, I just don't buy that. Okay,

560
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm on BYU pretty heavy here. Maybe

561
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Speaker 1: like thirty five.

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Speaker 2: We've got another duff beer matt up the cause and solution.

563
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Speaker 2: BYU's offense maybe the best thing in this game. But

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Speaker 2: Uab's defense also strong, especially upfront against the run, which

565
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Speaker 2: is not where BYU is especially strong moving the ball.

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Speaker 2: But the worst thing is BYU's defense. I'm going with

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Speaker 2: defense here. I don't believe Kolonie Sataki in interviewing for

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Speaker 2: the Oregon job, is any sort of distraction he is

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Speaker 2: at BYU. It's his alma mater. I'm going with UAB.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with the defense here. Ty a regional advantage

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Speaker 2: right playing in Louisiana, not a flying across the country.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I think defense does travel short and far. I'm going

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Speaker 2: with UAB here with medium amount of confidence points. Strawn's

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Speaker 2: Strawn's str awns. It's a diner with amazing looking pies.

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Speaker 2: Get them, get them, all right, get them. Lending Tree

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Speaker 2: Bowl at Hancock Whitney Stadium in Mobile, Alabama, five forty

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Speaker 2: five on the eighteenth on ESPN it's Eastern Michigan at

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Speaker 2: seven and five, it's Liberty at seven and five. Liberty,

580
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Speaker 2: for context is about an eight and one half point favorite.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about Liberty neutral? I mean, they

582
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Speaker 2: run the hell out of the ball, even though Malik

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Speaker 2: Willis is the one who has gotten the attention for

584
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Speaker 2: that program. But I'm fine with Liberty winning this game.

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Speaker 2: It's another favorite. I understand that I'm picking, but Eastern

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Speaker 2: Michigan's defense and their schedule too. You look at what

587
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Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan like. This is how they finish their schedule strong,

588
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: and they lost games. They lost to Ohio, a bad

589
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Speaker 2: Ohio team, and they got killed by a bad Central

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Speaker 2: Michigan team. It's just one of those things where the

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Speaker 2: MAC has like a bunch of five hundred teams and

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Speaker 2: a lot of them don't play good defense or like

593
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Speaker 2: they most MAC teams do something disastrously bad. And what

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Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan does is they just get pushed around constantly

595
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Speaker 2: upfront against the run, and so I think it's a

596
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Speaker 2: bad matchup. So I'm going Liberty with high confidence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One and twentieth in the ESP plus on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side for Eastern Michigan yeah, and I think you're right.

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00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Stopping the rushing attack. Stopping Malik Willis if he decides

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Speaker 1: to be the rushing attack is going to pose an

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Speaker 1: obvious issue here. Bill Connelly, for what it's worth, has

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Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan at four point nine second order wins, so

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Speaker 1: basically a five and seven team masquerading as seven and five.

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Speaker 1: I don't see how it's close. I also think that

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis is going to be motivated here. I don't

606
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Speaker 1: know if he has any designs on going to the NFL. Right,

607
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: it was sort of an underwhelming season for him with

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Speaker 1: twelve picks and obviously five losses for Liberty. I think

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Speaker 1: he will be motivated here to come out and put

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Speaker 1: some big numbers up. So high confidence on Liberty. I

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Speaker 1: might consider going Liberty minus eight and a half if

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Speaker 1: you're looking to actually wager some real money. But this

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Speaker 1: could be like a forty two job for me here

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Speaker 1: on Liberty. Fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going pretty high here. By the way, Felix

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Speaker 2: is for fried fish. Felix is in the Greater Mobile area.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl presented by Stifle.

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Speaker 1: they played at SOFI Stadium, Yeah, in Inglewood, California. So

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Speaker 1: I'm told seven thirty ABC, Utah State. The Aggie's had

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Speaker 1: a great year. You're one, Lake Anderson ten and three.

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Speaker 1: Won the conference in resounding fashion over San Diego State.

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Speaker 1: They're up against Oregon State. Oregon State seven and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite. Here, Dan, Yeah, so what we have

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Speaker 1: in this matchup is an amazing offensive line, I believe

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Speaker 1: a Joe Moore Award nominated offensive line with the Beaves.

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Speaker 1: They run the hell out of the ball, and that's

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Speaker 1: the best thing going in this game is Oregon State's ability.

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Speaker 1: BJ Baylor has been the big name for the Beaves

634
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Speaker 1: running the ball, and Utah State's defense against the pass

635
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: is actually the worst thing in this game. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that comes to play a major role, as

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Speaker 1: Oregon State is not a huge passing team, rely a

638
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Speaker 1: lot on transfers and tight ends in the passing game.

639
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Oregon State is in good position to win

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Speaker 1: this game. And defensively, by the way, as you look

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Speaker 1: at I mean, these are two defenses that are not

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Speaker 1: so good. Oregon State one hundred and one in points

643
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: per drive, Utah State much stronger, thirty seven. I'm actually

644
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: going to go Utah State here. I'm licking my wounds

645
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: from picking against the Aggies in the Mound West Championship game.

646
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: I think Oregon State is good, but I still think

647
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: when the team with the worst defense is and didn't

648
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Utah State beat Wazoo to open the season. Yep, yeah,

649
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're a pretty good team.

650
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: So I'm going with Utah State. Well, the Blake Anderson

651
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: story has been incredible. Yeah, in his first year at

652
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Utah State. I mean I said it before, I'll say

653
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: it again. But abbreviated schedule last year in twenty twenty,

654
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: so maybe not apples to apples here, but this is

655
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: a one in five team last year mm hmm, he

656
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: comes on. They got to ten wins. They pounded a

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: ranked San Diego State team that maybe was licking its

658
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: own wounds from they had a COVID issue. Right. I

659
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: don't know how much that factored in or not, but

660
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: even still, forty six to thirteen in a championship game

661
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: is a big deal. The sp plus says that ten

662
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: and three Utah State is more like the seven and

663
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: five team. I hear you do whatever you want with

664
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: that information. But I like Oregon State here. They had

665
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: a shot to win the PAC twelve North. They had

666
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: two really bad losses, otherwise they might have done it.

667
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I think I favor the Beavers here in a tasty

668
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: little matchup, like kind of like the Plucky Bowl. Okay,

669
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I like them to run the hell out of the

670
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: ball here, all right.

671
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: I have lots of La food recommendations, so you can

672
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: tweet at me, especially if you are going for this

673
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: game and want good food, and tell me where in

674
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: La you are, because La is a very big place.

675
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: I will tell you on the west side of La

676
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Pizzana p I z Z A n A for pizza

677
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: and we'll stick with that theme. And Apollonia's Pizza Justin

678
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: and Apollonias does a fantastic job, amazing transcendent square slices

679
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: at Apollonia's Square Slices Squares Justin dalyone a Mini La

680
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: pizza genius. I'm just telling you right now, I really

681
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: do look up to Justin does great things at Apollonias.

682
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.

683
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: Do you know I've talked to him a couple of times. Yeah,

684
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: when I've been out there. He's very guarded, ty, very

685
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: guarded with his pizza and fermentation and secrets for getting

686
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: that real caramelized crispy cheese edge on his squares. Very guarded,

687
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: but amazing. All Right, that's such a specific that's such

688
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: a specific recommendation. But yeah, Appollonia's it's sort of mid

689
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: city in La. I want to say, well, sure, I

690
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: forget which straight, but that's my recommendation.

691
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm medium on Oregon State, by the way, maybe like

692
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven medium as well. Yep. Let's go

693
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: to the RNL Carriers New Orleans Bowl Caesar's super Dome

694
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Nine to fifteen ESPN. Again, this is

695
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: the last game of the day on the eighteenth. It

696
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: is an interesting matchup, an interesting matchup. Louisiana favored by

697
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: six over Marshall. You know the deal with Louisiana. Louisiana

698
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: went twelve and one. They beat app State twice. Their

699
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: only loss of the year was to Texas all the

700
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: way back in Week one, and we've talked a lot

701
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: about them, if only because their coach left after the

702
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: championship game to go on over to Florida. Yeah, coach

703
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: the championship game, not hanging around for this one again.

704
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Normally I would ding that team in a situation like

705
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: this where a coach left, But there are so many

706
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: veterans on Louisiana that I really struggled with is this

707
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: thing gonna disintegrate or not? Right? It's also kind of

708
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: a home game for them, right, playing in the Superdome

709
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: sort of? Yeah, sort of. Lafayette is not New Orleans,

710
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I am gonna go Marshall outright here. I'm

711
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna stick to the formula. I don't think the seven

712
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: and five records should fool you. This is a really

713
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: good team on both sides of the ball. This game's

714
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna offer I think a really nice mix of styles

715
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: as well. Because Marshall's more of a passing team, Louisiana

716
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: is much more of a running team. I got Marshall

717
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: in the upset. I think coaching maybe makes the difference

718
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: in a close game and Louisiana's played in a bunch

719
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: of close games. Is here if you go back and

720
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: look so without Napier that that scares me a little bit.

721
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: The spread is less than a touchdown, so I think

722
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: Vegas sort of feels it too right. I'm inclined to

723
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: go Marshall plus the six if you're a better and

724
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: maybe Marshall to the tune of ten confidence points here. Altt,

725
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: you really like Marshall here? I do?

726
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, I like Louisiana big. I know it's the

727
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: new coach thing, but I thought that was all handled

728
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: really well by Billy and Apier, like it was a

729
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: very direct It was as well as one could have

730
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: handled it.

731
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Right.

732
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: He took the job. But he's saying I'm coaching out

733
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: the year, the regular season year. I'm not coaching in

734
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: the bowl game. But I thought the vibes were strong,

735
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: there was an internal promotion.

736
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: At head coach.

737
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: I just I think things are okay. I think there's

738
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: an excitement still around the Rage and Cajun's. And while

739
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: I think Marshall is good, little two turnover prone at

740
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: quarterback in Grant Wells, who has been a really good

741
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: quarterback and wasn't turnover prone, but this year he was,

742
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: and the turnover margin overall like vastly favors Louisiana. I

743
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: know things are random with turnover, but since the defense

744
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: is a relatively even I'm gonna roll with team I

745
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: just think is better. And that's Louisiana.

746
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: So we disagree, we disagree. I understand it. I understand it.

747
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: But you know you gotta have a code. I have

748
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: a code here that I'm going by.

749
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Yep, go in Marshall, all right, should mention eat literally

750
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: anywhere in New Orleans? You will do great literally anywhere.

751
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: But if you want something specific, I was recommended by

752
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: a friend.

753
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Who is from New Orleans.

754
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Bevy, which is not in like the main French quarter area.

755
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Bevy seafood amazing, Poe boys.

756
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: Really really strong. Let's go to Monday, the twentieth of December. Yep,

757
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach Bawl, presented by Tax Act. Tax Act is

758
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: getting in on the game here. I think they sponsor

759
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: about three different games in some capacity. Really, Okay, that's

760
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: where your taxes are going right there. Yep, sponsor in

761
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: the Myrtle Beach. But you ever been to Myrtle Beach.

762
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I have not no been in South Carolina. I never

763
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: a Myrtle Beach. I've been there. I played golf there,

764
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: bad end many years ago. Nice, good time, would go back.

765
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: It was a good time. We stayed at a house

766
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: that had a weird owl painting in it, and it

767
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: was one of those deals where the eyes sort of

768
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: tracked you wherever you went in the house, of course,

769
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: and we actually tried to buy it off the owner.

770
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: Why as like a fantasy baseball trophy or something. Oh nice,

771
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: I like that. I we joked, We joked that when

772
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: we weren't there, the owl came out of the painting

773
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: and flew around the house. It was just they had

774
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: that vibe to it, you know, right of course, like

775
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Vego and Ghostbusters too. They wouldn't sell to us, said

776
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: the painting had too much intrinsic value. They wouldn't. They

777
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't sell us the other everybody has a price tie.

778
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: We tried you low balld, we tried, couldn't get it.

779
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: And this game is in Coastal Stadium, right, it's in

780
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: brook Stadium, the Teal Field and Conway. Yeah, yep. Two

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN Old Dominion six and six, getting nine and

782
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: a half against Tulsa. Tulsa also six and six, Dan,

783
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: Where are you at with this game? Oh?

784
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: Do you finished the season strong? To just get here?

785
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: Right?

786
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: They lost five straight to Liberty, Buffalo, UTEP, Marshall, Western Kentucky,

787
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: all totally decent teams. Maybe not Buffalo, but otherwise totally decent.

788
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: And then one five straight Louisiana Tach I mean, against

789
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: five very bad teams. So I don't really have a

790
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: good gauge on ODU both of these teams. It was

791
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: ODU and Tulsa, Right, Tulsa finished the season relatively strong.

792
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm going with the clearly stronger defense here,

793
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: which I think is Tulsa's, especially against the run. I

794
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: just don't like the old dominion offense, especially through the air.

795
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm going Tulsa here with high confidence.

796
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: This is one of those motivation and coach games for me. Okay,

797
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Tulsa. First off, Odeu's had a

798
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: good year. Odi. You didn't play in twenty twenty Ritney

799
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Ronnie was hired. He didn't play a game. He came

800
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: out early part of the year. They got boat raced

801
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: in a bunch of games against teams that to be fair.

802
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Were better than them, hm, but it took a while

803
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: to get this thing going. They want a bunch of

804
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: games late. That's how they got to the bowl game.

805
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: So they got to six and six. I think that

806
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: in and of itself is an accomplishment for Ricky Ronnie

807
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: Tulsa's Jekyl and Hyde to me, man, you know, they

808
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: they almost beat Oklahoma State in Cincinnati. They were within

809
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: seven of Ohio State with three minutes to play. They

810
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: beat SMU, which is a nice win, and then also

811
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: they lost to Navy and UC Davis.

812
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, hey, let's put some respect on Dan

813
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: Hawkins and the fight maggies of UC Davis. A lot

814
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: of cows there. Tulsa's also very mistake prone. Their turnover

815
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: margin is one to eighteen nationally, and they recently lost

816
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of assistants to TCU, including their defensive coordinator.

817
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: They lost their line coach to USC had a few

818
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: guys enter the portal. My sense is that Tulsa may

819
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: only care about the big games and they may not

820
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: give a damn about the others. I think ODU is

821
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: thrilled to be here. They're thrilled, pomped to be in

822
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach. I don't think Tulsa gives a damn. So

823
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: here's one of those motivation games for me.

824
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I go, oh to you. I don't think twice about it.

825
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, tou medium confidence. I might consider the

826
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: plus nine and a half.

827
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm going You've convinced me a little bit.

828
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: Tulsa's recent Bowl history isn't great. They lost barely to

829
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Mississippi State in twenty twenty, lost the Independence Bowl in

830
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: a shootout in twenty fifteen, same coach Philip Montgomery, and

831
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: they beat Central Michigan killed Central Michigan in twenty sixteen.

832
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: So in terms of man, I don't know. In terms

833
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: of motivation, I'm gonna go. I'm still going to Tulsa here.

834
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm still good here. I think they're the stronger team.

835
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: I think they have more ways to win. So give

836
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: me the Golden Hurricane.

837
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: Where do you eat in Myrtle Beach? Do you know?

838
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: I do know Myrtle Beach? Well, I have I looked

839
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: up Conway because that's more specific. Rivertown, very solid looking Rivertown,

840
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: Rivertown differently Rivertown, or maybe it's a Riverton is how

841
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know how to pronounce it, but it

842
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: looks like very good Americans. Different, you know, different directions

843
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: you can go with the menu.

844
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: Tuesday, December twenty first the famous Idaho Potato Bowl in

845
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: Albertson Stadium in Boise. You've been to Boise? You love Boise?

846
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: Where do you eat in Boise?

847
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: So I haven't been to Boise in quite some time,

848
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: but I looked it up and there is a great

849
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: looking breakfast place, maybe with a bit of a Southern inspiration. Obviously,

850
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say you're getting authentic Southern breakfast

851
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: in Boise, Idaho, but you know you can get great

852
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: ingredients whatever. Tupoulo Honeyolo honey, a great breakfast option. Good

853
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: song too, good song all right?

854
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: Three point thirty ESPN Kent State versus Wyoming, Wyoming favored

855
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: by four Craig Bowl, notably the guy whose head is

856
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: the shape of the oregone right.

857
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: You know, I was really hoping, and look, Oregon hasn't

858
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: hired a coach at the time of this recording. I

859
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: was like, maybe maybe they could get I was ready

860
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: to do a photoshop of Dave Randa's perfectly smooth head.

861
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 2: Maybe also don't. Nobody can get quite on the Craig

862
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: Bowl level in terms of shape and that Oregon O

863
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: the middle of the O. But I was hoping for

864
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: an Aranda photoshop.

865
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: Who knows. Craig Bowll notably brought over Tim Paulasek from

866
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Iowa at the start of the year to come over

867
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: and make the offense less predictable. The offense is better

868
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: than last season, but it's very mistake prone. Yeah, and

869
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: there's almost no explosion, so there's a little bit of

870
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: Iowa in there, a little bit of Iowa on that

871
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: explosion side. But they did throttle Utahs State on the

872
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: road late in the year to get Bowl eligible, so

873
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: there's potential. They're not a bad team. You just don't

874
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna get the good Wyoming right Maybe

875
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: it'll be this game because Kent State's defense has given

876
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: up a lot of points this season. They played a

877
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: crazy high tempo. I think we see points in this game.

878
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to touch the points bread it's four

879
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: right now, because I think this is a situation where

880
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: the last team with the ball is the one that's

881
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna end up winning. I probably go Wyoming, but I

882
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: don't have a good read on this one. I know

883
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: some folks are high on Kent State, but I'm just

884
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't see it in that game in the championship

885
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: game last week. So I think I go Wyoming, but

886
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: maybe like eight points. I'm not confident at all.

887
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Boyse twenty seven hundred plus feet above sea level, Wyoming

888
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: like eleven thousand feet above sea level. That's not true,

889
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: but they are the highest. Anytime you watch a Wyoming

890
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: game in Laramie, you're bound more often than not to

891
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: hear the highest above sea level FBS stadium, town whatever

892
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: in America.

893
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: And so give me Wyoming is.

894
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Pulling into the elevation station. Pulling into the elevation station.

895
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: Ty And as much as I love Ken State's offense,

896
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: their defense is as as bad as the Kent State

897
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: offense is good. Wyoming had that stretch in the middle

898
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: of the season that was kind of a disaster. I

899
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: think they scored three points against New Mexico. I want

900
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: to say so maybe they were dealing with key injuries

901
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: or something then, but I'm both with Wyoming here. I'm

902
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: well with Wyoming to cover this game. Low confidence, yea,

903
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: because Wyoming is too all over the place. For me

904
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: to feel anything strongly about them. Low confident in the Cowboys,

905
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: but high confident in two below. Honey for breakfast.

906
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's stay on the twenty first. My favorite game

907
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: of the cycle. Really it is. I told actually, you're

908
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: consistent because I mentioned this to you a few episodes.

909
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know if anything had changed, but continue,

910
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm in man. Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl. Yeah, you

911
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: like smoothies.

912
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: I make a lot of them for my almost three

913
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: year old, and he's into them. They're fine. You know,

914
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 2: when John bajuice was a thing I would go get.

915
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: I think peach pleasure. Peach pleasure was my my my

916
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: flavor of choice.

917
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: But no, I don't go out of my way for

918
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: smoothies anymore. No. Tropical Smoothie Cafe Frisco Bowl. Frisco also

919
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: having an outsized impact on this Bowl season. We'll talk

920
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: about that in a little bit, of course. Toyota Stadium

921
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: is the site of this game seven thirty ESPN. It

922
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: is UTSA the Roadrunners. Do you have the sound? Just

923
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: out of curiosity? Not anymore.

924
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: I replaced it with December to remember, so that's more

925
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: of a catch all Yeah.

926
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: UTSA twelve and one. They are about a field goal favorite.

927
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Here Against San Diego State, san Diego State went eleven

928
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: and two. As I said, my favorite game of the cycle,

929
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: in part because UTSA may be the story of the

930
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: year in college football. Been incredible. You've got a root

931
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: with your heart here. We got to speak from the chest,

932
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: and speaking from the chest, I love the UTSA Roadrunner story.

933
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: I love what Jeff Trailer did this year. I love

934
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: that he's coming back. I hope they continue to build

935
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: this thing. They knocked off Western Kentucky for the second

936
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: time this season to win Conference USA in a shootout

937
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: a week ago. Meanwhile, San Diego State got drilled in

938
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: the Mount West Championship game against Utah State. Now, they

939
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: were down some guys because of the COVID outbreak, right,

940
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: so how much did that factor in? Probably some? They

941
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: got drilled. San Diego State does not normally give up

942
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: forty six points, so I kind of take that with

943
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: a grain of salt here. But I love the UTSA story.

944
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: They've only been to two previous bowl games, in two

945
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen and then I guess twenty twenty. Both

946
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: were close losses. I take their game against UAB from

947
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the year as sort of a poc approof

948
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: of concept, as we say, okay, of course in the

949
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: corporate world, that they can score against a better defense.

950
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: The game's up in Frisco, which is like north of Dallas.

951
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: I think folks will show out for them in this

952
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: game because it's a big deal. It's a big deal

953
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: for UTSA to get to a bowl game. If you

954
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: want a really deep cut, I would also say that

955
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: San Diego State is oh and to all time in

956
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: bowl games in the state of Texas. Okay, I don't

957
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: have a really strong lean. I just like UTSA, So

958
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to utsa medium confidence. Let's say twenty points.

959
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: I'd like to issue apology. Tupelow Honey's a chain across

960
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: many many states. I retract. I retract my blow Honey

961
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: recommendation for Boise State. I'm gonna say Tony's Pizza. Tony's

962
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: pizza looks very pizza. Tony's, I'll be very specific, Pizzeria Teatro,

963
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: great looking Neapolitan inspired pizza in Boise, Idaho. Tony's Pizzeria Tatro's.

964
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: I retract critic of this show the food that the

965
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: guy that people. I've never come across one in a

966
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: state or live near one. I'm sorry, this is me

967
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: being ignorant.

968
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: To give them food wrecks. I know, what do you

969
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: recommend for a good chicken place? Dan? How about Popeyes?

970
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: That's all true, this is all tie, this is all uh.

971
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: I deserve it all. I hear you.

972
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: But I found I corrected my ways, did I not?

973
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: Within a matter of minutes.

974
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: Also, there is a tupul of honey in Frisco, and

975
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, wait minute, there it is.

976
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: It happens, happens mashed.

977
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm pretty sure cocktail bar, good looking

978
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: food in the Frisco area is your recommendation there for

979
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: this game. The best thing this is another Duff Beer game.

980
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: The best thing is the San Diego State defense. The

981
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: worst thing san Diego State offense. I'm going utsa, yeah boy, yeah,

982
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: have the juice. They're favored by a little bit. I

983
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: just I've been hurt. I've been burned by San Diego

984
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: State looking back to that Utah State game. I'm gonna

985
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: stay consistent with how I feel looking back and how

986
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: out of control that got san Diego State on the

987
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: road against the UTSA team. Look, you're right, it was.

988
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: It was out of character the way that they lost

989
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: to North Texas big time. I think it gets fixed.

990
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: I think this is a team with juice. So give

991
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: me the road Runners here.

992
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: All right, Damn, we got eleven more games to go.

993
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Let's eleven more to go. Let's do it. Come on,

994
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go to Wednesday, December the twenty second,

995
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl, Yeah, M and G.

996
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Carter Stadium in Fort Worth, Texas, eight pm on ESPN.

997
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: It is Miszoo at six and six, is Army at

998
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: eight and three? Army is favored? Hmmm in this game, Daniel, interesting,

999
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: what do you think.

1000
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: So Army's defense, weirdly enough, is the best thing in

1001
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: this game, especially against the run, which is where we

1002
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: know Miszoo likes to make their own.

1003
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Hey, that's not a phrase.

1004
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: And the worst thing in this game is Missoo's defense,

1005
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: though it's not as if Army's past defense is all

1006
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: that strong either. I'm going with Miszoo here. I'm going

1007
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: with Miszoo, and it's I don't like going against service

1008
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: academies in bowl games. We saw what who did Army

1009
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: just absolutely lay the wood against Was it Houston two

1010
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: three four years ago?

1011
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: Uh? I have to go back and check. But go

1012
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: back and look, I remember the game what I believe

1013
00:53:59,560 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: it was Hugh.

1014
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: So it pains me, it hurts me because Missoo's defense. No,

1015
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: I'm one with the defense. I'm one with army here.

1016
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: If I'm talking myself into Missoo, that's dumb. I'm going

1017
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: with army here. I know I'm going very favorite heavy

1018
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: with my picks. I'm going medium confidence in army here.

1019
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, the place to eat in this

1020
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: is Fort Ware is this game? This is in Fort Worth.

1021
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: Are two places I mentioned one of them at the top.

1022
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: Goldies looks incredible, the number one barbecue place in Texas

1023
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: per Texas Monthly. Whatever strength you put on that rankings,

1024
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: and I quote, they trust the meat and the smoke

1025
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: more than an arsenal of seasonings. That attention doesn't waver

1026
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: when it comes to sides, especially the peppery cheese grits

1027
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: and the mustard heavy pork hash. And then they are culinary.

1028
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: There are culinary surprises such as the nupon in thousays

1029
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: Laotian sausage. Take a chunk mash it into a bit

1030
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: of sticky rice and dunk the combo into spicy sour

1031
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: jow salm sauce. Your eyes will open wide as you

1032
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: gaze at the new horizons of Texas barbecue.

1033
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Give that person the pulitzer who wrote that. I think

1034
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Vaughan, who is the Who's a nice dude. I've

1035
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: met him. He with the barbecue editor for Texas Monthly.

1036
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Good Lord, I'm Starr. That's Goldie is the other play.

1037
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: Another place in the top ten is Panther City in

1038
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: the Fort Worth area, very very strong food area, fort Worth, Texas.

1039
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: This is the Underthink Express Bowl to me two the

1040
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: Underthink Express. I'm the conductor of the Underthink Express. In

1041
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: this one rare instance, Army runs the crap out of

1042
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, and Maszoo is not good as a

1043
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: rush defense totally. They're not good at it. They're not

1044
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: good at preventy big plays on the ground either, horribling.

1045
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: Army's defense, as you said, not bad. They're above average,

1046
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: if not pretty good at stopping the run. Massoo's crazy

1047
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: one dimensional with Tyler Batty. I believe Tyler Batty at

1048
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: time of recording is playing in this game. But I

1049
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: also saw that Maszoo is now having an open competition

1050
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback, which is never a good sign going into

1051
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: a bowl game, especially against the Service academy. You mentioned it,

1052
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: Service academies. Say what you want about the Service academies,

1053
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: they are usually very disciplined and to some extent difficult

1054
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: to prepare for. Maybe not so much in a bowl

1055
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: setting where you've got more time and more build up,

1056
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: but definitely on a week two week basis, if you're

1057
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: playing Army or Navy, it's just so different from most

1058
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: of what you would prepare for otherwise that it can

1059
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: present a unique challenge. Hmm. If you're not all on

1060
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: the same page, it's problematic going into a bowl game

1061
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: like this. So I'm gonna Army. I'm with you. I'm

1062
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: interested to see if the line goes down too. Right now,

1063
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: they're favored by three and a half. I would expect

1064
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: folks are going to look at this game and say, wait,

1065
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: an SEC team against the Service Academy, and then they're

1066
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: going to put their money on the Zoo. And it's

1067
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: at that moment that I will take Army plus whatever.

1068
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: I would love to take Army getting points here.

1069
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Bady is playing. By the way, the last I

1070
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: saw is he wanted to play. And you're right, missoo

1071
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: up front, they just get pushed around exclusively, exclusively. Yeah,

1072
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: they're not good. Soeh, medium confidence. I'm with you on Army.

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00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to Frisco. Dan, back to

1074
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Frisco the Frisco Football Classic, also at Toyota Stadium. Also,

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00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: we really must preview this. It's the fun fact of

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Bowl season. I know they made it up. They made

1077
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: it a literally made it up. They made it up.

1078
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: There were more Bowl eligible teams then they knew what

1079
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: to do with and so ESPN and you know whoever

1080
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: runs the Bowl thing, they just added it willy nilly

1081
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: like a week ago. How can we not talk about that.

1082
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's limited edition one of one Frisco Bowl,

1083
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Frisco Football Classic excuse me ephemoral ephemeral Bowl plus Snapchat

1084
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: three thirty ESPN December the twenty third. Texas the mean

1085
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Green at six and six. Miami Ohio also at six

1086
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: and six. Miami Ohio is favored by four points. North

1087
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: Texas started one in six, they finished five and zero.

1088
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: They did beat UTSA. It was Utsa's only loss as

1089
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: you said earlier, the schedule was harder earlier in the year.

1090
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: But they just they honestly didn't play well. Didn't matter

1091
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: who they played, they didn't play well. I don't really

1092
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: think they're that good if and being honest with you here,

1093
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know where that utsa win came from. Kudos

1094
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: to them for pulling it off. Miami Ohio at least

1095
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: you can say, is okay. Right, They're okay. There's a

1096
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of big play potential in this game, which may

1097
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: make it very watchable. But I kind of think North

1098
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Texas is mud. They're just not good, So I consider

1099
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: taking the minus four. I don't know much about either

1100
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: of these teams, so I'm going out in a limb here,

1101
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying Miami Ohio high confidence, like thirty two points.

1102
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I'm going Miami as well.

1103
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: You know, if I've taken a dog yet, this is

1104
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: really bad. I'm going Miami Ohio to eke this one out.

1105
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: North Texas is not very good. They just they've struggled,

1106
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: especially throwing the ball, which is very strange to say

1107
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: by the Seth Latrell team. So I'm going, God, you

1108
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: know what, I'm going I'm anti Mac though, so you

1109
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna go North Texas here, I'm going

1110
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: North Texas. I think they're gonna get their act together.

1111
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: This is the game I think is Miami's. Miami's defense

1112
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: is better, North Texas is. Yeah, North Texas is slightly

1113
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: worse defensively, but I'm still gonna go with the Me

1114
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: and Green here. This is my exception game. Also go

1115
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: with the Aussie grind for a great Australian breakfast in Frisco, Texas.

1116
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 1: Brecky Brecky Union Home Mortgage, Gasparria Ball, Yeah, Gasperilla, Raymond

1117
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: James Stadium in Tampa, seven pm ESPN. It's UCF eight

1118
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: and four Florida six and six Florida favored by a touchdown.

1119
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: We discussed it earlier the Gasparilla Pirate Festival to parade

1120
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: a host of related community events held in Tampa, Florida,

1121
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: almost every year since nineteen oh four. Yeah, got too.

1122
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: Florida teams in this game, perhaps very fitting, got the

1123
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Pirate ship in the one one end zone of Raymond

1124
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: James Stadium. So it's it's thematic here. They're committing to

1125
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: the bit. I like it, don't even think about touching

1126
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: the points right here. Just don't do it. I have

1127
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: no idea if Florida gives it damn at all. If

1128
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: they care, and that is, if they care, they should

1129
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: be able to handle UCF in my view. Okay, but

1130
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: got an interim coach, They got some guys who are

1131
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: going to probably opt out. I haven't seen it yet

1132
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: by but kyer Elam, Zachary Carter mm hmm. Jacob Copeland's

1133
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: already in the transfer portal a receiver. Yep. I don't

1134
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: think UCS all that good. But the counterpoint is that

1135
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: they don't really need to be to go toe to

1136
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: toe with Florida the way they've finished out. I'm very

1137
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: mixed on this game. My hunch is to go Florida

1138
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: high confidence, but I recognize openly that that's a pretty

1139
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: big risk.

1140
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm going Florida high confidence because I think the talent

1141
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: is still there. I think there's a sense of relief

1142
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: that they're moving on, that they know who their next

1143
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: coach is going to be. And maybe this is when

1144
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: dudes may perhaps younger dudes are playing especially hard to

1145
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 2: impress the new staff in a game situation, UCF still

1146
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: obviously relying on a not a transfer on a backup quarterback.

1147
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: Of course, after Dylan Gabriel out for the season, now

1148
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: into the portal have not been able to throw the

1149
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: ball worth a damn no back half of the season.

1150
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: So now I'm going Florida here. I'm going with Florida

1151
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: here to establish dominance in this matchup of interstate squads.

1152
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: I've been workshopping a theory that I may consider adding

1153
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: depending on how this Bowl season goes. Because, as you know,

1154
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of schools with new coaches now

1155
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: most of them. Most of them aren't in bold, but

1156
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: the ones that are, I am curious to see if

1157
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: there is any kind of motivation factor in hopes of

1158
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 1: impressing the new coach, trying to get on the board

1159
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: early before twenty twenty two on that depth chart. I

1160
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any way to back that up,

1161
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: but that's just where I'm at. Okay, let's go to Friday.

1162
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: It's Christmas Eve. It's the easy post, easy post. What's that,

1163
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know? You tell me TI, easy Post?

1164
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: Hawaii Bowl Software Company, Okay, simple Shipping API, Create label tool.

1165
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah. Clarence TC Ching Athletics Complex in Honolulu, Hawaii,

1166
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: eight pm Christmas Eve on ESPN. Memphis at six and six,

1167
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: Hawaii at six and seven. We talked about this one earlier.

1168
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: I think we feel similarly here. Memphis has been all

1169
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: over the map this year, all over the mat. They

1170
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: beat Mississippi State, they lost to Temple, they beat SMU,

1171
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: barely lost to UTSA Hawaii. Hawaii has played well at home.

1172
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: They knocked off Fresno when Fresno came to town back

1173
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: in week five. But then there's this tweet from Mark

1174
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Delucci of SFGate dot com. Quote significant questions about the

1175
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: state of the University of Hawaii at Manoa football program

1176
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: under head coach Todd Graham. Players I spoke with accused

1177
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: Graham of verbal abuse, rampant favoritism, and killing their love

1178
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: of football. Yeah, nothing to be taken lightly. Javon Cordero

1179
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: day day Hunter are transferring datae Hunters the leading rusher.

1180
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: This does not seem like a great scenario for Hawaii,

1181
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: even in a home bowl game. Dan, Yeah, so I

1182
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: think I go Memphis.

1183
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a long plane ride to Paradise, and

1184
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: can get distracted by going to Hawaii. I think I'm

1185
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: still going with the Warriors here. I can't trust Memphis.

1186
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: What is the line at time of speaking? What is

1187
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: that the Vegas evaluation? Even though that we're going with confidence.

1188
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: Memphis by three and a half, I'm going to Hawaii

1189
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: low confidence. That's a long way road game. That's a

1190
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: that's like a ten hour flight, isn't it at least? Yeah,

1191
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: it's like six five and a half six from La.

1192
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay medium confidence and I'm gonna go Memphis.

1193
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going low Hawaii. But if twenty is

1194
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: my threshold, this is like nineteen or twenty, it's right,

1195
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a risk. You got to take a risk

1196
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: in a confidence pool. Memphis does not have a good defense.

1197
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: I just I'm not there. Sorry. All right, Let's go

1198
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: back to the tax Act Chamelea Bowl tax Act again

1199
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: getting in on the action here. It's where your taxes go.

1200
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: This one's on Christmas Day in the Crampton Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama.

1201
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: By the way, where do you eat in Honolulu? Do

1202
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: you know?

1203
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't have a place. I apologize. I'll look it

1204
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: up as you're describing this game.

1205
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: Find a nice fusion restaurant out there. That's what I

1206
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: ate at they.

1207
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: Don't need to fuse. It's already all there. Hawaii is

1208
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: a melting pot of cultures. It is in and of

1209
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: itself a fusion culture Tax Act.

1210
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Camellia Bowl Christmas Day. Yeah, play this one again a

1211
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: mobile two thirty ESPN. Georgia State seven and five, Ball

1212
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: State six and six. I was real high on ball

1213
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: State going into twenty twenty one. They had a good

1214
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: campaign in twenty twenty. This year, the bottom kind of

1215
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: fell out. Ture Bill Connolly says they were a four

1216
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: and a half win team that somehow got to six.

1217
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: This is Georgia State's third straight bowl game. I think

1218
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: they win this one hand handily. I am on Georgia

1219
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: State here, high confidence, and I would probably consider jumping

1220
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: on that three and a half. It may come down

1221
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: before kickoff, but I feel pretty good about Georgia State here,

1222
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: as do I. Ball State is terrible at efense.

1223
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're very good. Georgia State across

1224
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: the board. They're just better than Ball State. They run

1225
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: the ball, they stop the pass. I'm just yeah, I'm

1226
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: going with Georgia State here by you know a couple

1227
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: of touchdowns, high confidence and as you are saying, Dan

1228
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: is right. You can eat a wishbone and have some

1229
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: delicious cage and seafood.

1230
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Great.

1231
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: Also, Goofy is the name of a diner and cafe

1232
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: in Honolulu that looks really good.

1233
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, that's it, Goofy Cafe and dine. Go to

1234
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Monday twenty seventh. Let's go up the Ford Field in Detroit. Dan,

1235
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: go on again. I've got Rex eleven o'clock on ESPN,

1236
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: Western Michigan at seven and five, Nevada at eight and four. Okay,

1237
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's talk about a good matchup here. Novada,

1238
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: Nevada losing a coach, yep. Nevada is the more consistent

1239
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: team on paper, especially with Carson Strong at the helm.

1240
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: He had a great season forty two hundred passing yards,

1241
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: thirty six touchdowns. This is a pass happy team and

1242
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: they are definitely more consistent than Western Michigan. However, the

1243
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: venerable J. Norvelder coach left went to Colorado State. Their

1244
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is leaving for Wazoo. I think we're going

1245
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: to be in a situation here where Carson Strong, Romeo Dubbs,

1246
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: and Cole Turner all opt out for the Bowl Game.

1247
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: In a scenario like that, if those guys are out,

1248
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm on our guy, Caleb Bellobie Man low confidence, low confidence,

1249
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: but I might consider bumping it up if all three

1250
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: of those guys for Nevada are out. Kind of a

1251
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: home game for Western. We liked Western a lot going

1252
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: into the year. Maybe it didn't quite materialize the way

1253
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: we thought, But I just think external factors here keep

1254
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: me on Western instead of Nevada. Otherwise I go Nevada.

1255
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: Nevada is favored by a touchdown, but I'm going Western. Ah.

1256
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: This is another one of those situations where the Western

1257
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: defense scares me. They are one of the absolute worst

1258
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: big play defense allowing situations in the country, and Nevada,

1259
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: when healthy and when operating at full capacity, would be

1260
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: a team able to take advantage of that, presumably, But

1261
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: Nevada doesn't run the ball that well, and you're saying

1262
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: they are expecting opt outs. Western Michigan certainly much more

1263
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: of a home game in Detroit than than what Nevada has. Situationally,

1264
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: I am still gonna go Nevada. I think there are

1265
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: more talented team, and Western's defense scares me enough that

1266
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm going with the wolf pack here. Yeah, I'm going

1267
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: with the wolf pack here. Load a medium somewhere in there.

1268
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: Twelve fourteen points confidence Sister Pie for standard pies, great

1269
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: looking pies at Sister Pie, and then Pie Si like

1270
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: sci very creative pizzas the greater Detroit area Pie Pi.

1271
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: You said Detroit's a strong food area.

1272
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, very strong food. All right, it is.

1273
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: It is very diverse, especially with Middle Eastern options. Yeah,

1274
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: you can do very very well in Detroit eating.

1275
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: What about Annapolis, Dan, have you ever been to Annapolis? No? No,

1276
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 1: I have not, have you. I think I've been through Annapolis,

1277
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. In their friend Tim Murray,

1278
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: isn't he somebody who used to live in Annapolis? I

1279
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: think so. Probably he's big in the DMV. He knows

1280
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: all about the DMV. Okay, the Military Bowl presented by Perroton.

1281
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: It's not Peloton, it's Parathon peerat N. I had to

1282
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: look this up. Their slogan is do the can't be done,

1283
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: which is a little overthought. That's a little of the

1284
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: overthink express on that. I'm not gonna lie, right, but

1285
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: a big company twenty two thousand employees twenty seventeen was founded.

1286
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: Specialties include space intelligence, cyber defense, homeland security, and health.

1287
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: They got there towing a bunch of different pools there, Okay, Perroton,

1288
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: Boston College versus East Carolina BC is a three and

1289
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,919
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. There's six and six. East Carolina

1290
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: is seven and five two thirty on the twenty seventh

1291
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,879
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I like Boston College here. I like ACU.

1292
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: I like I. I like the ECU story more than

1293
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: I like ECU. Okay, I like what Mike Houston has done.

1294
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: He's been awesome. Got the program to seven wins, got

1295
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: the extension right, mm hmmm. I I just think it's

1296
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: a different BC team with Phil Jerkovic, who is coming

1297
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: back next season. I don't know if you saw that announcement,

1298
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 1: but I didn't say that. Yeah, came back from injury

1299
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: this season and they were marginally better. I thought they're

1300
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: going to benefit from three extra weeks of practice here.

1301
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: So I like BC. I'm going high confidence.

1302
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: I like ECU here. I think it's a motivation thing.

1303
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: Their defenses aren't so different. If you're b C, certainly

1304
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: you're happy to have your COVID back for this game

1305
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: and beyond, but you get ECU and Annapolis Maryland as

1306
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: a bold destination. No disrespect to Anapolis Maryland, but you're

1307
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: comparing it against you know, Southern States are going out

1308
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: west something warm, and I just don't know if you're

1309
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: you're up for this game, but you might be up

1310
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 2: for the Iron Roost for breakfast at Iron Rooster, which

1311
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 2: looks like a really nice breakfast transition, thank you very much.

1312
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: But no, the best thing in this game is Boston

1313
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: College is defense. The worst thing is ECU on defense,

1314
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: in particular their run defense. But I don't know if

1315
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: Boston College is built to take advantage. I know they

1316
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: really ran the ball well early on middle of the

1317
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: season at garwo action. Yeah, I'm going to ECU here.

1318
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: They finished strong. They went four or five, including a

1319
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: win over Tis Memphis Tigers. The Memphis it was kind

1320
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,919
Speaker 2: of a toss up loss to Houston.

1321
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: I'm going with ECU here.

1322
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: My guy Holton Naylor's all right, whatever, Yeah, it's go

1323
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: low confidence, low confidence.

1324
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm BC hot confidence, man, I'll go home. Okay, let's

1325
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: go to the tickets. Smarter Birmingham Bull Tuesday, December the

1326
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. They play it at Protective Stadium in Birmingham, Alabama,

1327
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock ESPN Houston against Auburn Dan. This is a

1328
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: great matchup, interesting matchup. Houston eleven in two, Auburn six

1329
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: and six. They're favored by three. I haven't seen yet

1330
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: if Roger McCreery, the corner for Auburn, is gonna play

1331
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: in the game or not. There's also been some speculation.

1332
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we may have resolution on this by the

1333
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: time Monday rolls around in this podcast actually drops, but

1334
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: there has been some some rumors out there in the

1335
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Twitter sphere about Brian Harson and that Oregon job. Yeah,

1336
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: I think it's relatively low but yeah, so you know,

1337
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens there. I guess we can

1338
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: revisit if there is a need to, but just something

1339
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: to keep in the back of your mind. We're recording

1340
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: again on Friday the tenth. We may have an answer

1341
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: on that Oregon situation before long. But I either way,

1342
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: either way here, it's low confidence for me because I

1343
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: don't trust either team. I don't really trust either team.

1344
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: I do question Auburn's motivation though, I wonder if it's

1345
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: a letdown thing, like who cares about Houston? We could

1346
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: have beaten Alabama. Sure, I still think I'm on Auburn.

1347
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 1: I still it's low confidence. I still think I'm on

1348
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: Auburn here with like nine points. Yeah.

1349
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: The strongest thing this game is Houston's defense, especially against

1350
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: the pass, which is not what Auburn has been doing

1351
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: well as of late with TJ.

1352
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: Finley.

1353
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just everything involved in passing, passing it, stopping the

1354
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: pass has not been Auburn's thing this year. I'm gonna

1355
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: go with Houston. I think Houston. If we're gonna say

1356
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: who's up for this game, who's got a defense? I

1357
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: think check check Houston.

1358
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: They are.

1359
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: They are the team I'm rolling with, just like I'm

1360
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: rolling with. Carrigan's a great option that has a rooftop

1361
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: situation that built a bunch of beer taps into like

1362
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: an old jeep to a retro jeep. I think, just experientially,

1363
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: let's speak in my language, man, I think you would

1364
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: like Carrigan's ty good looking fries.

1365
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: Send me the link. Can you slack me the link? Yeah? Absolutely,

1366
01:14:59,439 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: I can.

1367
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: I want to see this in Birmingham, right in Birmingham, Alabama.

1368
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: I've driven through Birmingham, I've been Rashingham.

1369
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, seems like a cool place.

1370
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: Got some friends in Birmingham. Here you go, Ty, Here's

1371
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: what Kerrigan's is working with. We're doing this long free

1372
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: commercial for what reason unclear. Kind of a gastro pub feel.

1373
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look at that. Oh I like that. I

1374
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: like up your alley? Do you want to go to

1375
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: this game?

1376
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 2: I suddenly do. How long of a drive is hit

1377
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: from the Chicago burbs?

1378
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: All right, you look that up. We're gonna move on here.

1379
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Serve Pro First Responderbowl Gerald J.

1380
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: Ford Stadium in Dallas three point fifteen pm Eastern time

1381
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: again on the twenty eighth of December. Now air Force

1382
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: nine and three Louisville Louisville six and six, Louisville favored

1383
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: by about a point and a half. That's kind of

1384
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: all over the map right now, that's jumping around. We

1385
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: got Scott's sadderfield, who is four to zero in Bowl games.

1386
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: It was announced that he is returning as Louisville's coach

1387
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: and Mailie Cunningham also announced that he is coming back

1388
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: next year, so he's gonna be on board for this game.

1389
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Air Force Dan air Force is pretty good. This is

1390
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good air Force team. It's a good team. Yeah.

1391
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,520
Speaker 1: I agree. They beat Boise, they beat Nevada. They're seventeen

1392
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: points away if you add it up from being twelve

1393
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: to oh, I am going air Force. I am on

1394
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: air Force here because they run, run, run, and that's

1395
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: just not a good matchup for Louisville. So I'm saying

1396
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: air Force like medium confidence, man, like twenty seven points

1397
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood.

1398
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: Cheese at Bowl champion air Force from twenty nineteen, Sir,

1399
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who they beat in twenty In the

1400
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Cheese at Ball Wazoo, they beat a real team, Okay,

1401
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: I'm going with air Force as well as dogs. I

1402
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be difficult for Louisville, who just the

1403
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: season to be over after the way they lost to

1404
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: Kentucky and the deficiencies they have. I know they had

1405
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: to like fire one of the like the code defensive

1406
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 2: coordinator midyear on some was it stalking something like that

1407
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: Court Dennison who was at Oregon before.

1408
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1409
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: I think things are tumultuous still that if you have

1410
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: to announce that your coach is coming back, it's not

1411
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: great momentum heading into the off season. Air Force, especially

1412
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: their defense is tough to hang with, and you get

1413
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: to pick against a Louisville defense that struggled for wide

1414
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: stretches of the season. So yeah, I'm going with the

1415
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: Falcons here, just like I would go to Norri the

1416
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: Nori hand roll bar. It'd be very easy to sit

1417
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 2: back and say, go to Pecon Lodge, go to Cadillac Barbecue.

1418
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 2: You're in Dallas, whatever. Dallas is much more than just barbecue.

1419
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: Nori, n o Ri. I love hand rolls, love that

1420
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: that quick delicious sushi option. Norri finding Nori. Oh, Okay,

1421
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: it's not bad. You want to get in the zone. Damn,

1422
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: I live in the zone. Tie, Let's get in the zone.

1423
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: The AutoZone Liberty Bowl played at Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium

1424
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: in Memphis, six forty five On the twenty eighth on ESPN,

1425
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: it is Mississippi State minus nine. The Mike Leach Bowl

1426
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, Buddy, uh Tech in transition Sunny Comby coaching

1427
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 1: the team for Tech. To me, this has the makings.

1428
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if Mike Leach

1429
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: has this bone in his body, But if ever there

1430
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: were one somewhere. This seems like the kind of game

1431
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: where Mike Leach would run it up in a bowl game,

1432
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: like this means something to him, because doesn't he still

1433
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: think that they owe a millions of dollars million? Yeah? Yeah,

1434
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: absolutely he does. So there's like there's that edge there

1435
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: for Leech, and I wonder if he puts a little

1436
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: extra elbow grease into it because of that personal thing.

1437
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy who would carry

1438
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 1: a grudge even though he's low. He and the pirate

1439
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: guy and he likes Key West and all. That's like,

1440
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: it seems to me like he might go for the

1441
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: throat in this one.

1442
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: That would be my assumption, especially against the Texas Tech

1443
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: team without a full time head coach coaching in this game. Yeah,

1444
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm going Misissippi State, high confidence.

1445
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: I think I am as well.

1446
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you can eat very well in Memphis, go

1447
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: find you know, go to Central Barbecue wherever. But yeah,

1448
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 2: with this game, Yeah, I'm I'm going with Mississippi State here.

1449
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: They they are passing game, while not especially explosive downfield

1450
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: all the time, It's very difficult to defend, and Texas

1451
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: Tech was stronger against the run than the pass. So

1452
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: I think it's a nice matchup either way. Mississippi State

1453
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: going out on a high note, you know, disappointing Egg Bowl. Yeah,

1454
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to klanga klanga here in. This game is

1455
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 2: in Memphis, right, yeah, Memphis, Yeah, not terribly far.

1456
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Two more games, let's do it m the San Diego

1457
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: County Credit Union Holiday Bowl. They play it now at Petco,

1458
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: where the Pets go.

1459
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: At Baseball Am which supposedly, by the way, Petco itself

1460
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: great food options within the stadium. Within the stadium, yeah, yeah,

1461
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: very apparently really strong concessions as it relates to other

1462
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: baseball stadiums. I forget where solid wife Kate and I

1463
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 2: went outside of Petco because we were in San Diego,

1464
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: right a couple of years back.

1465
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: There's i mean great San Diego's great food overall. But yeah,

1466
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 1: went to a couple great places. I love San Diego.

1467
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: Nice eight pm on Fox UCLA against n C State.

1468
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: The Holiday Bowl usually has a good matchup. It does

1469
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: again this year. NC State favored by one. I think

1470
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: I am all in on NC State here, Okay, I

1471
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: think I'm all in on NC State. I think I'm

1472
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: all in. I say all in, but I only mean

1473
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: medium confidence. You are somewhat in. I'm somewhat all in yeah,

1474
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: on NC State here because I just feel like they

1475
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: are the better team. I feel like they are the

1476
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: better team, and I feel like on the heels of

1477
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: an otherwise pretty successful season, there will be motivation here

1478
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: to finish the job. I'm not sure where UCLA is at,

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Speaker 1: and again, we're recording this on a Friday. Are you

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Speaker 1: getting pumped up to play against to travel across the

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: country to play Ucla if you're NC State? Not necessarily,

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01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: but is UCLA going to be in a position where

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Speaker 1: they care about this game? Is their coach going to

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: be there at UCLA's That's a good question. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I I question the motivation more on the UCLA side

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: than I do NC State. NC State's a veteran laden squad. True,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their opt out situation will be,

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01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 1: if there will be one, but I gotta believe that

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01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: group of seniors is going to want to close this

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Speaker 1: thing out strong, and I don't know if UCLA gives

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Speaker 1: a damn. So let's go NC State medium confidence.

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Speaker 2: I'm going NC State medium confidence as well, just because

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 2: of the pronounced advantage on defense, and I think it travels.

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 2: NC State one of those teams that, yeah, I basically

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01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: played well all season long, other than who they get

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: blown out by Mississippi State early on. Yeah, yeah, believe

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: so other than that game, they've played really hard and

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01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: they've been competitive, and UCLA just their defense is not

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Speaker 2: at all good. So I think NC State has a

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Speaker 2: really nice day in San Diego. Medium confidence. Also, I

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01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: know I have a lot of San Diego recommendations, but

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01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: I looked up to see places I didn't know. Crack Shack,

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01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: an extremely popular fried chicken place. The crack Shack weird name.

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01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: I'll gui see that. But uh, strong looking chicken. I

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: like it. I like it all right, deep breath, longer

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: show than usual. But the final game of this episode, Yes,

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. Oh what a bull? What a bull?

1508
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: What about the best of the bulls, the guaranteed Rate

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Speaker 1: Bull guarantee that rate at Chase Field, Phoenix, Arizona. I've been.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Ten to fifteen pm Eastern time on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: It is West Virginia, it is Minnesota. Minnesota is favored

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: by five in this game. Who is the better team

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: in this game. By the way, Minnesota, you feel strongly

1514
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: about that.

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a great defense. Joe Rossi has done

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01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: a really great job, very quietly with that Minnesota defense.

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01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: They don't have like an elite pass rusher, they don't

1518
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: get after the quarterback and all that consistent away, but

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: against the run, they they're just they're very sound defensively,

1520
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: and on offense they're fine, obviously dealing with injuries and

1521
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: inconsistent play at receiver. But yeah, Minnesota's defense and a

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01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: particular strength I guess against where West Virginia is especially

1523
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: inconsistent on offense. I just think I think West Virginia

1524
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: was fine at times this year, but I'm rolling with

1525
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: that defense. I think it travels Minnesota here by seven

1526
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: to twelve points, and look, worst case scenario is West Virginia.

1527
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: It's beat up, but they still get to go to

1528
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Speaker 2: Pizzeria Bianco in a couple locations in the Greater Phoenix area,

1529
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: which I think is one of the best pizza places

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Speaker 2: I've been to.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I've heard good things about Phoenix as

1532
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: a food town.

1533
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phoenix, says, well, there's a couple good barbecue options.

1534
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: You can get good Mexican Italian because there is there's

1535
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: a big migration of New Yorkers and Chicago WANs to Arizona.

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01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: So with that comes some good food places.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Minnesota here. What's your level of confidence. You're

1538
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: going high confidence, right?

1539
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: I am going, yeah, medium high confidence in Minnesota here.

1540
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: I think I am too. I think upper twenties, low thirties.

1541
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about.

1542
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 2: And also Tanner Morgan announce he's coming back for his

1543
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: tenth year, so there's all sorts of anniversary stuff built

1544
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 2: around that. Now Minnesota, by the way, I'm seeing number

1545
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: one in the nation in goal to go touchdown rate,

1546
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 2: so they finish their drives at least when they're close.

1547
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota. I feel good about Golden Gophers. Yeah,

1548
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: all right, that does it.

1549
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Wow, Man, Marathon, I still haven't eaten today, and it's

1550
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: one forty time.

1551
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: Neither of I running on fumes here talking about good places,

1552
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: talking about bowl games, trying to exude confidence wherever it's

1553
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: embarrassed by that that Tupelo honey thing. So embarrassed. Nobody's

1554
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:27,160
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1556
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Speaker 1: to join up with the Patreon to do it. But

1557
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Speaker 1: you compete for a limited edition one of one Winter

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Speaker 1: Wonder shirt designed by Dan Rubinstein. It will be one

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Speaker 1: of one. It's like a real world NFT. I think

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Speaker 1: you also get the prize pack and get the prize packs.

1561
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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw some other solid verbal goodies in there

1562
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Speaker 1: to reward you accordingly when you win the confidence pool.

1563
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Speaker 1: bullpool will be playing. We're gonna have all the solid

1566
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Speaker 1: verbal people. I'm gonna get Mama h in. Can you

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Speaker 1: get Mama Rubinstein or Papa Rubinstein in on? Definitely? What

1568
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Speaker 1: about the solid toddlers? Can we get them in? Uh? Sure?

1569
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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to select the game,

1570
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: so we can get them in for sure. I will

1571
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Speaker 1: find a way to give the dog forty four treats

1572
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Speaker 1: so that she can pick which which one she wants

1573
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Speaker 1: as well. We're gonna get everybody in, so play against

1574
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Speaker 1: the whole solid verbal team at a minimum, get in there,

1575
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Speaker 1: see how you do against us, and compete for some

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Speaker 1: subscribe to this show on Apple on Spotify if you

1578
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: haven't already. We're gonna continue with three episodes per week

1579
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: through the end of the season and last banal least

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Speaker 1: solid giveaway dot com. So I'll giveaway dot com. Throw

1581
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: your name in the hat to win the Desmond Howard

1582
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Speaker 1: signed mini helmet.

1583
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to get in baby? Is there an

1584
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear any breaking news? It's actual

1585
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 2: breaking news. We'll do it on another show.

1586
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: We'll do that on another show. Got breaking Farner two?

1587
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: I see it?

1588
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, hold on, is it the Virginia breaking news?

1589
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: At the Oklahoma breaking news that you're.

1590
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I've got Tony Elliott going to Virginia? What's your news?

1591
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Did you have Brent Venables hiring defensive coordinator Ted Roof

1592
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 2: on your bingo car? Oh no, no, you mean it's

1593
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: probably the defense. But that's not real, is it. It's

1594
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent real. Come on, Bill Connolly with

1595
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: quote Ted Roof defensive coordinator for Blue Blood School in

1596
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 2: twenty two. Twenty twenty two is not something I saw coming.

1597
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: He was an analysts in last season.

1598
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that, Doki.

1599
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: Is that his first hire? Dope?

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01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: He uh no, I mean he hired Levy uh to

1601
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: run his offense, Jeff Lebby, and he's retaining Bed and

1602
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: Bob Eatenbaugh the offensive line coach, the excellent offensive line coach.

1603
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: So his staff is coming together nicely. But yeah, okay,

1604
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: dok man ted Roof, Yeah, last scene coordinating the twenty

1605
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 2: twenty I think it was Vandy defense man.

1606
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: We had a joke about a leaky roof when he

1607
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: was at Penn State. He must be the nicest guy

1608
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: in the world. He's not good as a coordinator, but

1609
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: he interviews well.

1610
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: So since two since he was the head coach at

1611
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: Duke two thousand and seven, Minnesota defensive coordinator, Auburn defensive coordinator,

1612
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: UCF defensive coordinator, Penn State defensive coordinator, Georgia Tech defensive coordinator,

1613
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 2: and See State defensive coordinator, app State defensive coordinator, Vandy

1614
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. Ted Roof will help you move. He will

1615
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: pick you up at the airport. He will help you move.

1616
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: He is there for you with a holiday card.

1617
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: He's there. He's just my God. That's brutal and good

1618
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: times and bad ted Roof, Well that does it for. Yeah,

1619
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: that's a preview number one. We end on a depressing

1620
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: note of an otherwise exciting show. Part two will be

1621
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Thank you so much for downloading, for listening,

1622
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: We hope to see you playing the Winter Wonders game

1623
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: with us as well. For that guy over there, be malnourished,

1624
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, sure, and for myself, Tie Hill my brand.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,