WEBVTT - Part Two: Hitler's Drug Problem 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:09.840 What's an ironically supporting the use of methamphetamine my giant 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:19.080 corporate podcast network. I'm not even gonna do. That was great, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.240 no note, Thank you, Sophie, Thank you for taking legal 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.080 recountability for my actions, as you always do in all instances. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.680 This is behind the Bastards podcast Bad People tell you 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.200 All about Him, Part two of our episode on Hitler, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:38.800 the Nazis and Drugs. So my guest today is Carolina Barlow. Carolina, 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.240 you are a writer. You work on the Ron Burgundy 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:51.519 podcast with comedy person will you Comedy Famously Funny, Famously 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:57.200 Funny Piggles, providing the giggles, the chuckles, the yucks um. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:01.440 And you also have a weekly podcast called True Romance 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.720 that comes out over Thursday. Light of My Life, True Romance. Now, 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.200 when we talk about true romance, what about the romance 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.039 of a young German woman being ordered by her doctor 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.320 to take math amphetamine so that she can produce more 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.200 soldiers to go die on the Eastern Front. What about 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.480 the romance? Is that? Is that not the truest romance 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.400 in a way, So that's not really what we were 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.080 going for when we started our shows much more. You know, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.000 this is not a city references. Okay, stuff like that. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.280 So your podcast is not about fueling the aust fronts 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.640 inexorable need for human cattle. You know, we talked about 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.520 that and we're let's go in another direction. Actually it 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.000 would be a bit late for that at this point. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.880 One way or the other, no matter which side you 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.840 came in on it. Really your show is doing that. 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.360 So we are we are We are always trying to 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.440 convince people to go die in Russia. That is, that 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:02.520 is our main sponsor is the bone feels of kursk Um. 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.720 Add your bones to them today, what do you what 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.040 are you going to do with them? You're not using 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.840 your bones? Give him to kursk anyway, Yeah, Carolina, I 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.520 want to talk about Hitler's parts a little bit. Yes, yes, yes, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.560 Hitler had a horrible part problem and this this is 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:26.679 ship problem. His enormous ships that couldn't be flushed. But 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.000 he told the entire world about and everyone was just like, yeah, 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.880 this is just a thing that's happening. God was so 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:38.560 good fishes and ship that was so funny pants all 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.560 the time. And if you look at close up allegedly, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.960 i mean allegedly, what is easier to believe than the 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.839 fact that Trump ships his pants. I can't. I mean 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:56.760 the diaper, but the diaper bottom. Lots of rad people 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.760 ship their pants and don't do the bad things that 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.200 just like just like the pants, baby ship their pants, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:11.040 and most babies do not attempt to stop the immigration 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:16.919 visas of interpreters um and and ban immigration from Majordan Nation. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.080 It would be very hard for a baby to do 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.639 either of those six. Even if you were to invest 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.160 a baby with the powers of the presidency and change 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.040 the constitution to allow a baby to serve, a baby 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.079 would would have a very difficult time pushing either of those. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.720 Even signing its name would be a tremendous effort. It 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.040 would be a whole thing. I kind of want to 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:38.880 see a TV show where you've got like a baby 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.640 and a bunch of fascists, and the babies the presidents. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.560 They have to like connive ways to get the baby 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.880 to like do something recognizable as a signature. They're just 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.760 having to walk around and ink and stuff. That'd be 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.360 a fun show, giving the I think this is the 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:58.880 next installment of Boss Baby Boss Babies. He's the He's 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:06.000 unknowingly the figure ahead of a fascist movement. Damnity opened 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:11.680 the border. He crawled over the wrong paper. Yeah uh, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.760 boss baby. So let's talk about Hitler's farts. Um. This 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.200 is an important subject because Hitler was one of the 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.320 most important people who ever lived, right. That's that I'm 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.360 just kind of objectively. We don't have to think that's 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.800 a pleasant fact for it to be real. Um. And 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.640 as a result of the fact that he had a horrible, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.800 horrible gastro intestinal problem had an influence on the course 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.800 of world history. UM. As we talked about last episode. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.040 Dr Morrell prescribed hitler Muda floor for his g I issues, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.320 but he also gave him medication for his out of 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.160 control flatulence, which often led to unbearable gas pain in 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.160 some cases embarrassing farting during important meetings, sometimes with like 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.640 for like. This was a whole thing for Hitler all 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.520 the way up through his early career. Now, the specific 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.200 medication that Dr Morrell picked was Dr Kester's anti gas pills. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.400 Hitler's flash lens does seem to have had at least 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.440 some psycho somatic element. He had particularly bad attacks of 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.080 cramps and gas during times of stress, meetings with important 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.479 foreign dignitaries or the eve of major assaults. So as 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.560 Hitler went from political brinksmanship to invading all of Europe, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.479 his gas attacks grew more frequent and severe, and he 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.360 had to take more anti gas pills. Today there are 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.320 medications that help with gas, but Dr Kester's pills where 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.880 distinctively quack remedy. Most reputable doctors would not have prescribed 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.080 them because their active ingredient was atropa bella donna, which 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.520 included atropine and strict nine. So to stop as far 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:38.920 as he was taking strict nine pills every day, yeah, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:44.200 it's softer way, Yeah, And there there's debate over there's 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.640 debate over whether or not it would have been possible 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.200 for him to take enough of a dose to have hurt, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.719 because like the recommended dose of the pills, it was 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.279 too little Strict nine to have really done anything. But 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.800 he was also taking way more than the recommended dose. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.800 I don't know that we have a We also don't 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.320 have a clear understanding of like how good was that 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.520 company's the sketchy company's control process, how much? How do 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.039 we know that he was actually only getting this much 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.600 or whatever we did. These are questions that will never 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.760 be answered, but we do know that he was taking 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.200 a shipload of Strict nine pills for years, and that 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.200 that may have had an impact. Yes, Strict nine is 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.039 a poison. It's a deadly poison in high enough doses, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.760 and it can cause severe discomfort and like a variety 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.039 of negative effects. It can also be kind of a 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.680 sedative and lower doses, although I wouldn't recommend it because 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.880 it's Strict nine. Um. But yeah, again, it's impossible to 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.000 like say exactly oh at this moment. The fact that 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.240 Hitler was taking strychnine all the time led to this decision. Um, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.920 But it is hard to imagine someone taking strict nine 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.600 and increasing quantities every day for years without they're big, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.640 some kind of impact on him. Something, in the words 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.039 of Nancy Meyers, something's got to give. Okay, it didn't 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.960 help it. And again, there is a lot of stuff 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.120 being shoved into Hitler's body by Morrel, these Strict nine pills, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.839 these weird hormones, these injections, drugs, you know, amphetamines, and 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.880 we'll talk about the other drugs later. We don't know 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.440 exactly what did what, but one thing everyone does agree on, 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.680 and this is universally agreed among scholars and physicians who 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.400 have reviewed Hitler's records is that his health declined rapidly 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.120 after and it all played a role in that, right, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.080 I'm not it's probably too much to pick one thing. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.640 That stress is also like he's losing a war for 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.720 most of that time, so that as an impact too, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.760 but I think probably just after you like, it can't 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.480 feel boy, it doesn't feel great. No. Um. Now, it 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.200 is widely agreed that all of Hitler's like as I said, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.600 so again we can't say, like how much of this 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.160 is on the drugs, how much of this is on 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.760 aging and stress. But as the war kicked off, Dr 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.320 Morrell grew a lot more comfortable using Hitler as a 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.560 guinea pig. And you have to assume that has and 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.640 we'll talk specifically about that a bit. So in honest 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:00.600 of Hitler's operation, Barbarossa was well underway, conquering more and 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.480 more land more quickly, in capturing more enemy soldiers than 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.600 any other invasion force in history. The RMCHT had begun 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.120 to find find itself bogged down, though casualties were mounting, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.600 and as the winter approached, the Red Army prepared its 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.559 first of many counterattacks. At this moment, Hitler got sick 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.240 for the first time in years. He was too ill 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.559 to properly work. Dr Morel was summoned to the German 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:27.440 leader's side. He found Hitler bedridden and suffering from diarrhea 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:31.960 and fever. The probable diagnosis with diagnosis was was dysenterry. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.319 Hitler ordered his doctor to fix him immediately, and again 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.200 Morell's main selling point is like, you feel better right away, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.320 you know, because I'm shooting you full of caffeine or 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.679 maybe meth or whatever. You will help, you will. Yeah, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.800 well that is the bit of a problem. But like 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.560 so dysenterry. I've had dysenter I've had dysentery that nearly 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:55.840 killed me in a village in the desert and rural India. Um, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:00.480 there's no quick cure for dysenterry like yours, that is 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.679 to take something like cipro and just kind of like 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.240 not die. Yeah, but you're not. You're not getting better fast, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.000 you know, I don't even think today we really can 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.040 not not once it gets going. Maybe if you're super 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.280 rich and you get immediately to I don't know, maybe 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.680 there's something like yeah, it's not immediately available, And especially 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.320 at this point, there's nothing morel can do for Hitler really, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:29.520 um So he tries, though, um so, because his first 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.920 shot was like vitamins, He's basically give him a shitload 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.960 of vitamin C and other vitamins to try to like 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.199 perk of his immune system. And obviously this doesn't do anything, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.240 and so Morrell decided next to mix his normal vitamin 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.720 shot with a steroid glycan noorm which he made with 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.200 extracts of the heart, adrenal glands, liver, and pancreas of 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.360 farm animals. Yeah, he's shooting Hitler up with a lot 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.440 of random animal hormones, Like there's a whole for for years. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.520 It's pretty cool. I have like the ambition of Dr 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.600 Frankenstein a little bit. Yeah, there's some again. Hormones are 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.480 also kind of new in terms of like our understanding 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.400 of them, like vitamins, So people are just like, yeah, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.640 just filled people up with hormones seems like a good idea. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.880 It's fun stuff. So while he was juicing Dear Fear up, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.920 Morrel bent his needle in Hitler's arm, and to deal 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.880 with the pain of that, he gave his boss to 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.880 Lantern an opioid. Despite all of this, Hitler was still 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.160 sick and now enraged that his personal physician had failed. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.560 Morrell wrote in his notes, fear very irritable. Have never 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.920 experienced such hostility to myself. He might not be such 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.040 a cool guy. Well, and again, Hitler loves Merril up 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.600 to this point because Morrell stru his drug dealer. Whether 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.280 the shots just caffeine or if there's amphetamine or like 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.160 or hormones which are powerfully mentally active, he's he's he's 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.800 doctor feel good. Yeah, yeah, he's doctor feel good and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.240 he and it always works because drugs do work. That 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.520 is the fun thing about drugs. If you take a drug, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.080 you may have to take more and more, but you 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.120 will continue to get high. It's kind of a thing. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.400 The drugs do um. Whereas everyone else in Hitler's world 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.320 at some point fails, generally repeatedly fails, and so he 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.120 has all these rages at people who don't do good 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.439 enough for him. But Morrel always comes in and makes 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.160 him feel good. And when he doesn't, it's you know, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.120 most people don't like their drug dealers at the best 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.080 of times. I don't know. Maybe it's different now for 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.440 you kids and your your pot shops and stuff. But 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.400 my day, if you wanted to buy drugs, you had 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.600 to hang out with a dude you probably wouldn't have 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.400 hung out with if you were not buying drugs from them. Um, 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.800 not all. I definitely had some coolst drug dealers too, 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.960 But like, yeah, videos, Yeah, you're gonna sit around talking 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.040 about Alex Jones with a guy before he sells you 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.680 a vagaweed and some opium. Um, and that's not going 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.360 to be the funnest experience of your entire life. Um. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.880 Sorry to my cool drug dealers that I had. Yeah, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.640 any of my old drug dealers are listening, it's not you, 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.520 It's it's the game. You know, it's the game. And 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.400 it's the fact that you made me listen to Alex 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.000 Jones a bunch while you were measuring out. Anyway, whatever, um, 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.840 cute guy I saw in my drug dealer's house and 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:07.240 two thousand and nine I thought we shared a moment. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.360 If you're out there, maybe this is too late for 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.480 a misconnection on Craig's List, but thinking of you, I 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.280 did date a couple of my drug dealers, and I 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.200 do recommend that Yeah, okay, you get cheap drugs, Yeah, yeah, 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.640 sometimes you get very expensive drugs depending on how you 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.040 measure expense, Yeah, like an emotional level. They can be 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.040 very very pricey, most expensive weed you ever buy sometimes, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:35.000 But anyway, money, I don't want to spend that much 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:40.600 time with um. People will laugh at anything. I don't 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.600 know drugs anyway. So Morrell, Hitler's drug dealer has just 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.120 like you know, failed to come up with the ship 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.400 for the first time. And Hitler doesn't want to hang 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.320 around and listen to Alex Jones if he's not going 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.320 to get a dime bag, you know, um, And Morrell's like, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:13:01.800 don't text amount signal bro, you gotta hit me up 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:08.760 on signal um. So eventually Hitler did recover from the dysentery, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.400 but the fact that his normally instant injections had not 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.680 provided quick relief rattle Dr Morrell. His ability to get 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.559 and stay rich was directly tied to Hitler's favor, and 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.959 hitler issue may not, as you may be surprised to learn, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.000 kind of a fickle dude, kind of kind of easy 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.000 to fall out of Hitler's favor see The Night of 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.640 Long Knives and so, as Norman Older writes and blitzed 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.360 quote so that patient Aid didn't end up in the 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.000 sick bay again and fall behind. Morrel administered a harder 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.959 course of prophylactic injections and went on to prescribe more 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.200 and more remedies and every change in concentrations. He barely 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.440 made any diagnoses, but instead constantly added to his basic 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.720 medicinal treatment. This soon included such diverse substances as Tono 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.800 foss fan, a metabolic stimulant made by the company Hetched, 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.640 chiefly used nowadays in veterinary medicine, the hormone rich and 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.520 immune system boosting bodybuilding supplement most serin, a byproduct of 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.760 uterine blood, the sexual hormone testo vin to combat declining 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:10.040 libido in vitality, and orchacrin, a derivative of bulls testicles, 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.480 which is supposed to be a cure for depression. Another 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.240 substance has happened to be our sponsors. Yeah, we are 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:21.640 heavily sponsored by orchacrin. You're feeling sad, don't go to therapy. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.560 Get a bulls testicles injected into your blood stream, and 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.520 I've got some stuff from my uterine blood for anyone 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.680 who's interested. There you go, that'll be a cure for you. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.000 What was that a cure? Um? Libido and virility. There 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.280 you go. Oh wait, no, sorry, that was a bodybuilding 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.800 it'll it'll get get your buff. Yeah, well it's been 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.480 working to help me pump iron. That's it is iron 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.080 rich um, which is why people, ladies often need to 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:53.760 take iron pills um. So. Another substance used was called 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.480 prostacrinum um, which was made by from seminal vesticles and 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.360 the prostates of young bull ales. Even though he didn't 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.520 eat meat, Hitler surely could no longer be considered vegetarian. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.000 From autumn ninety one onward, more and more highly concentrated 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.960 animal substances began to circulate in his blood stream. The 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.280 purpose of these supplements was to compensate for states of 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.680 psychological and physical exhaustion, or to prevent them in advance 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.800 by reinforcing the body's defenses. However, as a result of 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.960 the constantly changing applications and the rising doses that followed, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.080 Hitler's natural immune system was soon replaced by an artificial 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.560 protective shield. I don't know how scientifically accurate that last 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.760 bit is, but he's definitely on point about like what 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.720 Hitler was taking. And my god, it's again we don't know, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.520 like what exact impact. But it can't have. It has 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.600 to have influenced. He's getting so much ship shot into 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.120 his bloodstream, ridiculous stuff. Two different kinds of bull testicle 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.000 shot into his blood, different kinds of animals, like a 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.080 lot of animals shot into him, a lot of animal 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.080 hormones like it's of course this has an influence on 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.040 the guys thinking like it would not yeah, to think 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.360 we've just outed him as not vegetarian. It feels like 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.800 now he could really get canceled, like these little cancel 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.400 culture finally comes for Hitler. We really just need to 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.320 get them this information and see how they really feel. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.280 There's some guy with four eight eight tattooed on his 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.600 forehead hearing this and just starts weeping, sadly tears down 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:29.200 his Hitler poster. I'll never believe in anything again. So 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.280 one of the shortcomings of Blitz, and I don't even 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.920 know if this would have been possible, but it is. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.960 It is a missing thing is that Older doesn't give 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.360 us a lot of scientific information about how all these 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.200 weird animal derivative substances would have impacted Hitler's body and mind. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.800 And in fairness, there's probably not a lot of great 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.240 data on this stuff, because no one else would have 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.080 used it, or at least would have used it to 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.320 the extent that Morel did. So the guinea pig anymore, Yeah, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.040 Hitler was the guinea pig. So it's like it is, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.440 this is a missing aspect of the book. I don't 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.600 know that it's fair to critique Older for it, because like, yeah, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.240 I don't know how many other people got this much 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.800 bowl testicle ejected into their bodies, like or this much 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.880 like uterine blood extract. Friend you have, has he invaded 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.280 Russia recently, he's thinking about he's thinking of that. Well, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.879 he says, it's just the bull testical talking. Well, we 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.280 get one more person and then then we have a 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:25.000 trend which we can Yeah. Yeah, Hitler loved all this 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.439 stuff though, like again, whatever we could say about the 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.440 absolute effects and we just don't have a lot of data, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.240 Hitler seemed to feel like it had a big impact 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.320 on him. He was mentally dependent on this stuff, So again, 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.160 some of it's probably purely psychosomatic, right, Like, he has 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.359 a couple of good experiences early on with Morrel and 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.240 he becomes kind of it's almost like a good luck 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.240 charm before big meeting, I need to get shot up. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.959 Maybe most of it's like the caffeine as opposed, but like, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.360 I don't know how much of it is is what. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.760 But he's profoundly mentally dependent on this stuff, to the 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.679 point that you know, late in the war, when Hitler 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.920 is when von Staffenberg tries to blow him up with 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.720 the bomb. After that point, everyone who was close to 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.000 Hitler gets thoroughly searched by the s S. The only 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.000 person exempt was Dr Morrell in his medical back, which 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.040 is that gives you an idea of like how important 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.440 this guy was to Hitler. Later that year, Hitler and 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.240 Mussolini took a train ride together to the Eastern Front. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.520 It was a te boys trip, right, You want to 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:25.080 be on that train, Hitler and Mussolini pounding shots, injecting 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:31.399 bull testicles into their thick, weird necks. Yeah. I feel 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.360 like in the early days, man, we would be like 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.199 hanging out, you know, annex and ship all the time. Like, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.920 what's up, man, you evade Russian You don't have any 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.480 fucking time for me, you know. It's it's it's like 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.600 that for them. So it's a twenty four hour trip, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:52.359 and obviously Hitler parts. Yeah, you do not want to 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.879 be in that train. Um. Mussolini probably too right. You 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.000 look at that guy's fucking face. That's a guy who's 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.040 you don't want to be in a train with. Um. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.119 But also Hitler can't stand that long without getting shot up, right. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.200 He's again he's very dependent on whatever the funk Morrel 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.679 is putting into his veins. Um. And so periodically the 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.159 s S would stop the train and set up anti 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.000 aircraft defenses so that Dr Morrell could shoot Adolf Hitler 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:22.280 up with veteran airy steroids in calcium. I can imagine 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.840 Mussolin anything like the one time Muslin he was like 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:30.240 I don't know, and I don't know about this guys amazing. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.920 It's like Kundalina yoga, Like it really sets me right. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.960 That is the story of Mussolini, because Mussolini is a 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.760 lot always a much more stable man than Hitler ever was, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.119 and a lot less of a true believer. Mussolini's a 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.199 guy of flexible political idea. He really just kind of 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.879 wants power. Um. And there's part of the Mussolini story 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.840 is like kind of belatedly realizing like, oh shit, I 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.720 should not have gotten involved this allying with Germany seemed 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.440 like a good call at a certain point. I did 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.640 not want all the trouble this is bringing my way. 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.200 I did not want war with all of these other countries. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.160 Like why did I do this? And yeah, I'm sure 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.800 this train is. Hitler is getting shot up with veterinary 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.760 steroids and farting musil and he's like, God, damn it, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.560 it's you know what this might be on me a 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.359 little bit, like you're my only friend, Like I chose you. 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.560 This is not an inspiring situation. I have a feeling 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.119 I'm going to get hung upside down by my own people, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.520 beaten as like a pin YadA um text Winston Church 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.720 and he's just like, hey, what's up. You know I've 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.639 been missing you lately. I know there's been like a 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.040 lot of ship but maybe just talk. You want to talk? 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.560 Do you want to have like a no, Hitler, I'm 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.000 gonna talking to anybody. Shut up, Like stop it, go 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.760 take more veterinary steroids, come on growing a tail. Yeah. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.360 So the exact nature of what Hitler took did change 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.639 every day. MORELL kept a rotating stable. Eventually more than 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.520 a different hormone preparations mixed with steroids, nonsense medicine like 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.280 anti gas bills, traditional medicines and drugs and like amphetamines 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.040 and ship and we'll talk about other stuff that was 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.840 in there later. Older alleges that there was a psychological 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.719 importance behind the fact that Hitler's drug diet changed daily 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.480 and Menty avoided feeling dependent on any specific drug but 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.359 was instead dependent on Dr Morrel's overall care. This is 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.040 impossible to prove in like an objective way, but it 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.439 it makes sense. It's a logical leap, but it's one 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.520 that I don't think is an implausible one. It makes 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.400 like if I were doping Hitler, I would have done 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.360 the same thing, right, just knowing what I do about drugs, Like, yeah, 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.040 you don't want I'm to get too dependent on any 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:41.679 one thing. Also, it won't work as well if they 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.960 get too dependents. So like, okay, we'll do the opiates 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:45.440 and then we'll take a couple of days and we'll 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.239 give you some caffeine in the next day. We'll give 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:48.720 you a little bit of like speed the next day, 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.640 and then you know you kind of you cycle, right, 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:55.199 Like that's the that's that's that's the best way to 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.240 do this. If you're doing, and I think I think 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.440 Owlder's leap there is is a pretty intelligent one. Now, 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:03.879 while the Fear was growing ever more dependent on a 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.720 bizarre cocktail of steroids and hormone extractions, the ther Mocht 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.760 itself dealt with the whole sweep of drug addiction. If 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:12.959 you've never been a functional addict, by which I mean 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.240 someone who relies on a specific drug is a performance 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.360 enhancer to help them in a task. There's other things. 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.480 People call it a functional lack. In this stance, I'm saying, like, 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.800 you're somebody who does a thing and you rely on 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:24.840