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Speaker 1: All about Him, Part two of our episode on Hitler,
Speaker 1: the Nazis and Drugs. So my guest today is Carolina Barlow. Carolina,
Speaker 1: you are a writer. You work on the Ron Burgundy
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Speaker 1: that comes out over Thursday. Light of My Life, True Romance. Now,
Speaker 1: when we talk about true romance, what about the romance
Speaker 1: of a young German woman being ordered by her doctor
Speaker 1: to take math amphetamine so that she can produce more
Speaker 1: soldiers to go die on the Eastern Front. What about
Speaker 1: the romance? Is that? Is that not the truest romance
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Speaker 1: want to talk about Hitler's parts a little bit. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Hitler had a horrible part problem and this this is
Speaker 1: ship problem. His enormous ships that couldn't be flushed. But
Speaker 1: he told the entire world about and everyone was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just a thing that's happening. God was so
Speaker 1: good fishes and ship that was so funny pants all
Speaker 1: the time. And if you look at close up allegedly,
Speaker 1: i mean allegedly, what is easier to believe than the
Speaker 1: fact that Trump ships his pants. I can't. I mean
Speaker 1: the diaper, but the diaper bottom. Lots of rad people
Speaker 1: ship their pants and don't do the bad things that
Speaker 1: just like just like the pants, baby ship their pants,
Speaker 1: and most babies do not attempt to stop the immigration
Speaker 1: visas of interpreters um and and ban immigration from Majordan Nation.
Speaker 1: It would be very hard for a baby to do
Speaker 1: either of those six. Even if you were to invest
Speaker 1: a baby with the powers of the presidency and change
Speaker 1: the constitution to allow a baby to serve, a baby
Speaker 1: would would have a very difficult time pushing either of those.
Speaker 1: Even signing its name would be a tremendous effort. It
Speaker 1: would be a whole thing. I kind of want to
Speaker 1: see a TV show where you've got like a baby
Speaker 1: and a bunch of fascists, and the babies the presidents.
Speaker 1: They have to like connive ways to get the baby
Speaker 1: to like do something recognizable as a signature. They're just
Speaker 1: having to walk around and ink and stuff. That'd be
Speaker 1: a fun show, giving the I think this is the
Speaker 1: next installment of Boss Baby Boss Babies. He's the He's
Speaker 1: unknowingly the figure ahead of a fascist movement. Damnity opened
Speaker 1: the border. He crawled over the wrong paper. Yeah uh,
Speaker 1: boss baby. So let's talk about Hitler's farts. Um. This
Speaker 1: is an important subject because Hitler was one of the
Speaker 1: most important people who ever lived, right. That's that I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of objectively. We don't have to think that's
Speaker 1: a pleasant fact for it to be real. Um. And
Speaker 1: as a result of the fact that he had a horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible gastro intestinal problem had an influence on the course
Speaker 1: of world history. UM. As we talked about last episode.
Speaker 1: Dr Morrell prescribed hitler Muda floor for his g I issues,
Speaker 1: but he also gave him medication for his out of
Speaker 1: control flatulence, which often led to unbearable gas pain in
Speaker 1: some cases embarrassing farting during important meetings, sometimes with like
Speaker 1: for like. This was a whole thing for Hitler all
Speaker 1: the way up through his early career. Now, the specific
Speaker 1: medication that Dr Morrell picked was Dr Kester's anti gas pills.
Speaker 1: Hitler's flash lens does seem to have had at least
Speaker 1: some psycho somatic element. He had particularly bad attacks of
Speaker 1: cramps and gas during times of stress, meetings with important
Speaker 1: foreign dignitaries or the eve of major assaults. So as
Speaker 1: Hitler went from political brinksmanship to invading all of Europe,
Speaker 1: his gas attacks grew more frequent and severe, and he
Speaker 1: had to take more anti gas pills. Today there are
Speaker 1: medications that help with gas, but Dr Kester's pills where
Speaker 1: distinctively quack remedy. Most reputable doctors would not have prescribed
Speaker 1: them because their active ingredient was atropa bella donna, which
Speaker 1: included atropine and strict nine. So to stop as far
Speaker 1: as he was taking strict nine pills every day, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's softer way, Yeah, And there there's debate over there's
Speaker 1: debate over whether or not it would have been possible
Speaker 1: for him to take enough of a dose to have hurt,
Speaker 1: because like the recommended dose of the pills, it was
Speaker 1: too little Strict nine to have really done anything. But
Speaker 1: he was also taking way more than the recommended dose.
Speaker 1: I don't know that we have a We also don't
Speaker 1: have a clear understanding of like how good was that
Speaker 1: company's the sketchy company's control process, how much? How do
Speaker 1: we know that he was actually only getting this much
Speaker 1: or whatever we did. These are questions that will never
Speaker 1: be answered, but we do know that he was taking
Speaker 1: a shipload of Strict nine pills for years, and that
Speaker 1: that may have had an impact. Yes, Strict nine is
Speaker 1: a poison. It's a deadly poison in high enough doses,
Speaker 1: and it can cause severe discomfort and like a variety
Speaker 1: of negative effects. It can also be kind of a
Speaker 1: sedative and lower doses, although I wouldn't recommend it because
Speaker 1: it's Strict nine. Um. But yeah, again, it's impossible to
Speaker 1: like say exactly oh at this moment. The fact that
Speaker 1: Hitler was taking strychnine all the time led to this decision. Um,
Speaker 1: But it is hard to imagine someone taking strict nine
Speaker 1: and increasing quantities every day for years without they're big,
Speaker 1: some kind of impact on him. Something, in the words
Speaker 1: of Nancy Meyers, something's got to give. Okay, it didn't
Speaker 1: help it. And again, there is a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: being shoved into Hitler's body by Morrel, these Strict nine pills,
Speaker 1: these weird hormones, these injections, drugs, you know, amphetamines, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the other drugs later. We don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what did what, but one thing everyone does agree on,
Speaker 1: and this is universally agreed among scholars and physicians who
Speaker 1: have reviewed Hitler's records is that his health declined rapidly
Speaker 1: after and it all played a role in that, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not it's probably too much to pick one thing.
Speaker 1: That stress is also like he's losing a war for
Speaker 1: most of that time, so that as an impact too,
Speaker 1: but I think probably just after you like, it can't
Speaker 1: feel boy, it doesn't feel great. No. Um. Now, it
Speaker 1: is widely agreed that all of Hitler's like as I said,
Speaker 1: so again we can't say, like how much of this
Speaker 1: is on the drugs, how much of this is on
Speaker 1: aging and stress. But as the war kicked off, Dr
Speaker 1: Morrell grew a lot more comfortable using Hitler as a
Speaker 1: guinea pig. And you have to assume that has and
Speaker 1: we'll talk specifically about that a bit. So in honest
Speaker 1: of Hitler's operation, Barbarossa was well underway, conquering more and
Speaker 1: more land more quickly, in capturing more enemy soldiers than
Speaker 1: any other invasion force in history. The RMCHT had begun
Speaker 1: to find find itself bogged down, though casualties were mounting,
Speaker 1: and as the winter approached, the Red Army prepared its
Speaker 1: first of many counterattacks. At this moment, Hitler got sick
Speaker 1: for the first time in years. He was too ill
Speaker 1: to properly work. Dr Morel was summoned to the German
Speaker 1: leader's side. He found Hitler bedridden and suffering from diarrhea
Speaker 1: and fever. The probable diagnosis with diagnosis was was dysenterry.
Speaker 1: Hitler ordered his doctor to fix him immediately, and again
Speaker 1: Morell's main selling point is like, you feel better right away,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm shooting you full of caffeine or
Speaker 1: maybe meth or whatever. You will help, you will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that is the bit of a problem. But like
Speaker 1: so dysenterry. I've had dysenter I've had dysentery that nearly
Speaker 1: killed me in a village in the desert and rural India. Um,
Speaker 1: there's no quick cure for dysenterry like yours, that is
Speaker 1: to take something like cipro and just kind of like
Speaker 1: not die. Yeah, but you're not. You're not getting better fast,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even think today we really can
Speaker 1: not not once it gets going. Maybe if you're super
Speaker 1: rich and you get immediately to I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: there's something like yeah, it's not immediately available, And especially
Speaker 1: at this point, there's nothing morel can do for Hitler really,
Speaker 1: um So he tries, though, um so, because his first
Speaker 1: shot was like vitamins, He's basically give him a shitload
Speaker 1: of vitamin C and other vitamins to try to like
Speaker 1: perk of his immune system. And obviously this doesn't do anything,
Speaker 1: and so Morrell decided next to mix his normal vitamin
Speaker 1: shot with a steroid glycan noorm which he made with
Speaker 1: extracts of the heart, adrenal glands, liver, and pancreas of
Speaker 1: farm animals. Yeah, he's shooting Hitler up with a lot
Speaker 1: of random animal hormones, Like there's a whole for for years.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. I have like the ambition of Dr
Speaker 1: Frankenstein a little bit. Yeah, there's some again. Hormones are
Speaker 1: also kind of new in terms of like our understanding
Speaker 1: of them, like vitamins, So people are just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just filled people up with hormones seems like a good idea.
Speaker 1: It's fun stuff. So while he was juicing Dear Fear up,
Speaker 1: Morrel bent his needle in Hitler's arm, and to deal
Speaker 1: with the pain of that, he gave his boss to
Speaker 1: Lantern an opioid. Despite all of this, Hitler was still
Speaker 1: sick and now enraged that his personal physician had failed.
Speaker 1: Morrell wrote in his notes, fear very irritable. Have never
Speaker 1: experienced such hostility to myself. He might not be such
Speaker 1: a cool guy. Well, and again, Hitler loves Merril up
Speaker 1: to this point because Morrell stru his drug dealer. Whether
Speaker 1: the shots just caffeine or if there's amphetamine or like
Speaker 1: or hormones which are powerfully mentally active, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: doctor feel good. Yeah, yeah, he's doctor feel good and
Speaker 1: he and it always works because drugs do work. That
Speaker 1: is the fun thing about drugs. If you take a drug,
Speaker 1: you may have to take more and more, but you
Speaker 1: will continue to get high. It's kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: The drugs do um. Whereas everyone else in Hitler's world
Speaker 1: at some point fails, generally repeatedly fails, and so he
Speaker 1: has all these rages at people who don't do good
Speaker 1: enough for him. But Morrel always comes in and makes
Speaker 1: him feel good. And when he doesn't, it's you know,
Speaker 1: most people don't like their drug dealers at the best
Speaker 1: of times. I don't know. Maybe it's different now for
Speaker 1: you kids and your your pot shops and stuff. But
Speaker 1: my day, if you wanted to buy drugs, you had
Speaker 1: to hang out with a dude you probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: hung out with if you were not buying drugs from them. Um,
Speaker 1: not all. I definitely had some coolst drug dealers too,
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, videos, Yeah, you're gonna sit around talking
Speaker 1: about Alex Jones with a guy before he sells you
Speaker 1: a vagaweed and some opium. Um, and that's not going
Speaker 1: to be the funnest experience of your entire life. Um.
Speaker 1: Sorry to my cool drug dealers that I had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any of my old drug dealers are listening, it's not you,
Speaker 1: It's it's the game. You know, it's the game. And
Speaker 1: it's the fact that you made me listen to Alex
Speaker 1: Jones a bunch while you were measuring out. Anyway, whatever, um,
Speaker 1: cute guy I saw in my drug dealer's house and
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine I thought we shared a moment.
Speaker 1: If you're out there, maybe this is too late for
Speaker 1: a misconnection on Craig's List, but thinking of you, I
Speaker 1: did date a couple of my drug dealers, and I
Speaker 1: do recommend that Yeah, okay, you get cheap drugs, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get very expensive drugs depending on how you
Speaker 1: measure expense, Yeah, like an emotional level. They can be
Speaker 1: very very pricey, most expensive weed you ever buy sometimes,
Speaker 1: But anyway, money, I don't want to spend that much
Speaker 1: time with um. People will laugh at anything. I don't
Speaker 1: know drugs anyway. So Morrell, Hitler's drug dealer has just
Speaker 1: like you know, failed to come up with the ship
Speaker 1: for the first time. And Hitler doesn't want to hang
Speaker 1: around and listen to Alex Jones if he's not going
Speaker 1: to get a dime bag, you know, um, And Morrell's like,
Speaker 1: don't text amount signal bro, you gotta hit me up
Speaker 1: on signal um. So eventually Hitler did recover from the dysentery,
Speaker 1: but the fact that his normally instant injections had not
Speaker 1: provided quick relief rattle Dr Morrell. His ability to get
Speaker 1: and stay rich was directly tied to Hitler's favor, and
Speaker 1: hitler issue may not, as you may be surprised to learn,
Speaker 1: kind of a fickle dude, kind of kind of easy
Speaker 1: to fall out of Hitler's favor see The Night of
Speaker 1: Long Knives and so, as Norman Older writes and blitzed
Speaker 1: quote so that patient Aid didn't end up in the
Speaker 1: sick bay again and fall behind. Morrel administered a harder
Speaker 1: course of prophylactic injections and went on to prescribe more
Speaker 1: and more remedies and every change in concentrations. He barely
Speaker 1: made any diagnoses, but instead constantly added to his basic
Speaker 1: medicinal treatment. This soon included such diverse substances as Tono
Speaker 1: foss fan, a metabolic stimulant made by the company Hetched,
Speaker 1: chiefly used nowadays in veterinary medicine, the hormone rich and
Speaker 1: immune system boosting bodybuilding supplement most serin, a byproduct of
Speaker 1: uterine blood, the sexual hormone testo vin to combat declining
Speaker 1: libido in vitality, and orchacrin, a derivative of bulls testicles,
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be a cure for depression. Another
Speaker 1: substance has happened to be our sponsors. Yeah, we are
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Speaker 1: Get a bulls testicles injected into your blood stream, and
Speaker 1: I've got some stuff from my uterine blood for anyone
Speaker 1: who's interested. There you go, that'll be a cure for you.
Speaker 1: What was that a cure? Um? Libido and virility. There
Speaker 1: you go. Oh wait, no, sorry, that was a bodybuilding
Speaker 1: it'll it'll get get your buff. Yeah, well it's been
Speaker 1: working to help me pump iron. That's it is iron
Speaker 1: rich um, which is why people, ladies often need to
Speaker 1: take iron pills um. So. Another substance used was called
Speaker 1: prostacrinum um, which was made by from seminal vesticles and
Speaker 1: the prostates of young bull ales. Even though he didn't
Speaker 1: eat meat, Hitler surely could no longer be considered vegetarian.
Speaker 1: From autumn ninety one onward, more and more highly concentrated
Speaker 1: animal substances began to circulate in his blood stream. The
Speaker 1: purpose of these supplements was to compensate for states of
Speaker 1: psychological and physical exhaustion, or to prevent them in advance
Speaker 1: by reinforcing the body's defenses. However, as a result of
Speaker 1: the constantly changing applications and the rising doses that followed,
Speaker 1: Hitler's natural immune system was soon replaced by an artificial
Speaker 1: protective shield. I don't know how scientifically accurate that last
Speaker 1: bit is, but he's definitely on point about like what
Speaker 1: Hitler was taking. And my god, it's again we don't know,
Speaker 1: like what exact impact. But it can't have. It has
Speaker 1: to have influenced. He's getting so much ship shot into
Speaker 1: his bloodstream, ridiculous stuff. Two different kinds of bull testicle
Speaker 1: shot into his blood, different kinds of animals, like a
Speaker 1: lot of animals shot into him, a lot of animal
Speaker 1: hormones like it's of course this has an influence on
Speaker 1: the guys thinking like it would not yeah, to think
Speaker 1: we've just outed him as not vegetarian. It feels like
Speaker 1: now he could really get canceled, like these little cancel
Speaker 1: culture finally comes for Hitler. We really just need to
Speaker 1: get them this information and see how they really feel.
Speaker 1: There's some guy with four eight eight tattooed on his
Speaker 1: forehead hearing this and just starts weeping, sadly tears down
Speaker 1: his Hitler poster. I'll never believe in anything again. So
Speaker 1: one of the shortcomings of Blitz, and I don't even
Speaker 1: know if this would have been possible, but it is.
Speaker 1: It is a missing thing is that Older doesn't give
Speaker 1: us a lot of scientific information about how all these
Speaker 1: weird animal derivative substances would have impacted Hitler's body and mind.
Speaker 1: And in fairness, there's probably not a lot of great
Speaker 1: data on this stuff, because no one else would have
Speaker 1: used it, or at least would have used it to
Speaker 1: the extent that Morel did. So the guinea pig anymore, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hitler was the guinea pig. So it's like it is,
Speaker 1: this is a missing aspect of the book. I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's fair to critique Older for it, because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many other people got this much
Speaker 1: bowl testicle ejected into their bodies, like or this much
Speaker 1: like uterine blood extract. Friend you have, has he invaded
Speaker 1: Russia recently, he's thinking about he's thinking of that. Well,
Speaker 1: he says, it's just the bull testical talking. Well, we
Speaker 1: get one more person and then then we have a
Speaker 1: trend which we can Yeah. Yeah, Hitler loved all this
Speaker 1: stuff though, like again, whatever we could say about the
Speaker 1: absolute effects and we just don't have a lot of data,
Speaker 1: Hitler seemed to feel like it had a big impact
Speaker 1: on him. He was mentally dependent on this stuff, So again,
Speaker 1: some of it's probably purely psychosomatic, right, Like, he has
Speaker 1: a couple of good experiences early on with Morrel and
Speaker 1: he becomes kind of it's almost like a good luck
Speaker 1: charm before big meeting, I need to get shot up.
Speaker 1: Maybe most of it's like the caffeine as opposed, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of it is is what.
Speaker 1: But he's profoundly mentally dependent on this stuff, to the
Speaker 1: point that you know, late in the war, when Hitler
Speaker 1: is when von Staffenberg tries to blow him up with
Speaker 1: the bomb. After that point, everyone who was close to
Speaker 1: Hitler gets thoroughly searched by the s S. The only
Speaker 1: person exempt was Dr Morrell in his medical back, which
Speaker 1: is that gives you an idea of like how important
Speaker 1: this guy was to Hitler. Later that year, Hitler and
Speaker 1: Mussolini took a train ride together to the Eastern Front.
Speaker 1: It was a te boys trip, right, You want to
Speaker 1: be on that train, Hitler and Mussolini pounding shots, injecting
Speaker 1: bull testicles into their thick, weird necks. Yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: like in the early days, man, we would be like
Speaker 1: hanging out, you know, annex and ship all the time. Like,
Speaker 1: what's up, man, you evade Russian You don't have any
Speaker 1: fucking time for me, you know. It's it's it's like
Speaker 1: that for them. So it's a twenty four hour trip,
Speaker 1: and obviously Hitler parts. Yeah, you do not want to
Speaker 1: be in that train. Um. Mussolini probably too right. You
Speaker 1: look at that guy's fucking face. That's a guy who's
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in a train with. Um.
Speaker 1: But also Hitler can't stand that long without getting shot up, right.
Speaker 1: He's again he's very dependent on whatever the funk Morrel
Speaker 1: is putting into his veins. Um. And so periodically the
Speaker 1: s S would stop the train and set up anti
Speaker 1: aircraft defenses so that Dr Morrell could shoot Adolf Hitler
Speaker 1: up with veteran airy steroids in calcium. I can imagine
Speaker 1: Mussolin anything like the one time Muslin he was like
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't know about this guys amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like Kundalina yoga, Like it really sets me right.
Speaker 1: That is the story of Mussolini, because Mussolini is a
Speaker 1: lot always a much more stable man than Hitler ever was,
Speaker 1: and a lot less of a true believer. Mussolini's a
Speaker 1: guy of flexible political idea. He really just kind of
Speaker 1: wants power. Um. And there's part of the Mussolini story
Speaker 1: is like kind of belatedly realizing like, oh shit, I
Speaker 1: should not have gotten involved this allying with Germany seemed
Speaker 1: like a good call at a certain point. I did
Speaker 1: not want all the trouble this is bringing my way.
Speaker 1: I did not want war with all of these other countries.
Speaker 1: Like why did I do this? And yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: this train is. Hitler is getting shot up with veterinary
Speaker 1: steroids and farting musil and he's like, God, damn it,
Speaker 1: it's you know what this might be on me a
Speaker 1: little bit, like you're my only friend, Like I chose you.
Speaker 1: This is not an inspiring situation. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: I'm going to get hung upside down by my own people,
Speaker 1: beaten as like a pin YadA um text Winston Church
Speaker 1: and he's just like, hey, what's up. You know I've
Speaker 1: been missing you lately. I know there's been like a
Speaker 1: lot of ship but maybe just talk. You want to talk?
Speaker 1: Do you want to have like a no, Hitler, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talking to anybody. Shut up, Like stop it, go
Speaker 1: take more veterinary steroids, come on growing a tail. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the exact nature of what Hitler took did change
Speaker 1: every day. MORELL kept a rotating stable. Eventually more than
Speaker 1: a different hormone preparations mixed with steroids, nonsense medicine like
Speaker 1: anti gas bills, traditional medicines and drugs and like amphetamines
Speaker 1: and ship and we'll talk about other stuff that was
Speaker 1: in there later. Older alleges that there was a psychological
Speaker 1: importance behind the fact that Hitler's drug diet changed daily
Speaker 1: and Menty avoided feeling dependent on any specific drug but
Speaker 1: was instead dependent on Dr Morrel's overall care. This is
Speaker 1: impossible to prove in like an objective way, but it
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's a logical leap, but it's one
Speaker 1: that I don't think is an implausible one. It makes
Speaker 1: like if I were doping Hitler, I would have done
Speaker 1: the same thing, right, just knowing what I do about drugs, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want I'm to get too dependent on any
Speaker 1: one thing. Also, it won't work as well if they
Speaker 1: get too dependents. So like, okay, we'll do the opiates
Speaker 1: and then we'll take a couple of days and we'll
Speaker 1: give you some caffeine in the next day. We'll give
Speaker 1: you a little bit of like speed the next day,
Speaker 1: and then you know you kind of you cycle, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's the that's that's that's the best way to
Speaker 1: do this. If you're doing, and I think I think
Speaker 1: Owlder's leap there is is a pretty intelligent one. Now,
Speaker 1: while the Fear was growing ever more dependent on a
Speaker 1: bizarre cocktail of steroids and hormone extractions, the ther Mocht
Speaker 1: itself dealt with the whole sweep of drug addiction. If
Speaker 1: you've never been a functional addict, by which I mean
Speaker 1: someone who relies on a specific drug is a performance
Speaker 1: enhancer to help them in a task. There's other things.
Speaker 1: People call it a functional lack. In this stance, I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you're somebody who does a thing and you rely on
Speaker 1: a drug to help you do that thing. So like
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong is yes, like Lance Armstrong, or like a
Speaker 1: certain podcaster who may or may not be talking right now.
Speaker 1: Let me give you an overview of how it works. First,
Speaker 1: you're introduced to a new drug that hits just right.
Speaker 1: And my guy, it's like falling in love. When you
Speaker 1: discover a new substance that tickles your brain specifically in
Speaker 1: a perfect way, it's one of the best feelings in
Speaker 1: the world. The problem is, like new relationship energy, it
Speaker 1: does not last. Um. So, first thing you fall in love,
Speaker 1: you discovered all these situations in which this drug helps
Speaker 1: you and makes things better. It makes life easier. But
Speaker 1: gradually your body he gets used to it, it stops
Speaker 1: hitting us hard. Sometimes the way that it changes works, right,
Speaker 1: Like I haven't smoked pot in the years. I used
Speaker 1: to for smoke pot every waking hour of every day,
Speaker 1: and I have not in years because at some point,
Speaker 1: probably as a result of the PTSD, it stopped. Like
Speaker 1: I smoked it to work. I worked. The whole early
Speaker 1: part of my career was built on it. Um. Again,
Speaker 1: It's been a long time, long, long, long time since
Speaker 1: I've smoked pot. But like when I did, it was
Speaker 1: it was necessary, and then at a certain point I
Speaker 1: wasn't able to work on it. So like that, then
Speaker 1: that happens with a lot of different substance. It can
Speaker 1: happen with everything, which is why you shouldn't do anything
Speaker 1: every single day. Um, But that is kind of the way. No,
Speaker 1: you should do lots of stuff. No, I mean like
Speaker 1: people should do us in general. Yeah, like work, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: like like like do less is my advice, less work,
Speaker 1: more drugs, but don't switch them up. You know, take
Speaker 1: acid one day, you know, then you take a little
Speaker 1: bit of oxy then maybe you get drunk the next night,
Speaker 1: then you smoke a bone the next day, and you
Speaker 1: kind of cycle through it like that, and then you're
Speaker 1: basically sober because you don't get addicted to anyone drug.
Speaker 1: Nothing touches you anymore. Perfectly medically sound advice right there
Speaker 1: from feels like you're winding up to an ad brick,
Speaker 1: which you should be speaking of doing a lot of drugs.
Speaker 1: You know what drugs you should do, the ultimate high,
Speaker 1: the only real high capitalism, because baby spending money on
Speaker 1: products and services that's high. You never get over that
Speaker 1: ship and more absolutely, and there's no consequences whatsoever. No
Speaker 1: one would ever claim that. For example, our addiction to
Speaker 1: consumption and endless growth is in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: very similar to how an opiate addiction works, where you
Speaker 1: require greater and greater doses to have the same effect,
Speaker 1: and eventually that can lead you to making miscalculations that
Speaker 1: kills you, or in the case of a society, making
Speaker 1: miscalculations about what is actually necessary that leads to the
Speaker 1: death of the entire planet. It's not like that at all.
Speaker 1: Here's some ads. We're back. Oh, so we just talked
Speaker 1: about Hitler A bunch. We're gonna talk about Hitler some more,
Speaker 1: but let's talk about the ver mock. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about the r Moched Carolina A big r mocked stand. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know me and my family, that's not really like
Speaker 1: our story. But I'm curious on like how you feel.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm a I'm a German military
Speaker 1: history nerd. I find it fascinating. And one of the
Speaker 1: problems when you're a German military history nerd is that
Speaker 1: half of German military history nerds are cool people who
Speaker 1: are interested for very good reasons because like all modern
Speaker 1: military tactics are based off of the ship that the
Speaker 1: German Imperial military and then the r Moched pioneered. Um,
Speaker 1: and then there's Nazis. That's the other half of people
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, it's like, um, when you see people
Speaker 1: collect World War Two memorabilia, Yes, it gets there's a
Speaker 1: real Yeah, there's there's a line there. It seems like
Speaker 1: you're only collecting one side. Yeah. But again and obviously
Speaker 1: I I study the remarking part of what I study
Speaker 1: about the Vermocht is the the outrageous amount of war
Speaker 1: crimes they committed that we're out of proportion to to
Speaker 1: really any other actor in that war. Um, you can
Speaker 1: make some out. I mean on a per capita basis,
Speaker 1: certainly out of out because like the Red Army in
Speaker 1: the U. S. Army have plenty of atrocities they care
Speaker 1: out in World War Two, But on a in terms
Speaker 1: of a the amount of soldiers directly involved in crimes
Speaker 1: against humanity to the RMACHED stay well, not alone, because
Speaker 1: the Japanese Army exists but stands in pretty rarefied air,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, and a big part of rmoched culture
Speaker 1: was taken a shipload of meth. So yeah, I just
Speaker 1: walked through a little bit about like what it's like
Speaker 1: to be kind of a functional user of a drug, right, Um,
Speaker 1: And if you are kind of using a drug to function,
Speaker 1: it will eventually stop hitting his hard and the best
Speaker 1: way to handle that is to take a break from it. Right.
Speaker 1: If you find yourself just for coffee, right, I want
Speaker 1: to guess most people listening to this are kind of
Speaker 1: a functional addict of coffee or at least of caffeine.
Speaker 1: Most people in Americans, Yes, so do I If you
Speaker 1: find yourself being like Jesus, I actually I'm not feeling good.
Speaker 1: I'm taking way too much of this stuff, like I'm
Speaker 1: it's not making me feel good. One of the best
Speaker 1: things you could do is take a few weeks off,
Speaker 1: you know, let your tolerance reset so you don't need
Speaker 1: as much UM, and then try to restart and get
Speaker 1: by it a lower dose with a kind of a
Speaker 1: more moderate use of You know, that's not easy, but
Speaker 1: it's it is the good idea to do if you, like,
Speaker 1: are concerned about your level of consumption of a substance.
Speaker 1: So that's the way it works for everybody, and kind
Speaker 1: of with every substance, any substance that you would be
Speaker 1: using on a daily basis the only and that's a
Speaker 1: doable thing. It's not easy, but it's doable. Now. The
Speaker 1: problem is, if you're saying using methamphetamine to help you
Speaker 1: fight for days without sleeping in order to anchor Europe,
Speaker 1: you might find the process of adaptation of taking a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks off a lot more difficult because you're
Speaker 1: in the middle of a war zone. You know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a bad place to like deal with coming
Speaker 1: off of a substance UM. And this is the situation
Speaker 1: the Nazis eventually found themselves in um and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: quote from time here. The invasion of Poland in September
Speaker 1: n served as the first real military test of the
Speaker 1: drug in the field. Germany overran its eastern neighbor by October,
Speaker 1: with a hundred thousand Polish soldiers killed in the attack.
Speaker 1: The invasion introduced a new form of industrialized warfare Blitzkrieg.
Speaker 1: This lightning war emphasized speed and surprise, catching the enemy
Speaker 1: off guard by the unprecedented quickness of the mechanized attack
Speaker 1: in advance. The weak link in the blitz Creek strategy
Speaker 1: was the soldiers, who were humans rather than of course, machines,
Speaker 1: and as such suffered from fatigue. They required regular rest
Speaker 1: in sleep, which of course slowed down the military progress.
Speaker 1: That is where privitin came in. Part of the speed
Speaker 1: of the Blitzkreeg literally came from speed. As medical historian
Speaker 1: Peter Steinkamp put it, blitz Creek was guided by meth amphetamine.
Speaker 1: If not to say that blitz Creeg was founded on methamphetamine.
Speaker 1: Now meth being meth soldiers quickly began reporting side effects.
Speaker 1: There were heart attacks and other problems in the field.
Speaker 1: The consequences, though were not nearly severe enough to outweigh
Speaker 1: the value meth provided, but Reich health fewer. Leo Conti
Speaker 1: did grow worried about the long term impact of such
Speaker 1: drug abuse upon the flower of german Man And he's like,
Speaker 1: all of our young men are taking meth all of
Speaker 1: the time. This might not be good for our He's
Speaker 1: also like, listen, they're doing a lot of other stuff too,
Speaker 1: But like, I don't want this to ruin their futures.
Speaker 1: I don't want this to ruin yea. As they're as
Speaker 1: they're rounding up Jewish people and committing masters, like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to hurt their ability to get
Speaker 1: a job something. Okay, Yeah. So and at this point
Speaker 1: in time, most of the atrocities the Nazis would commit
Speaker 1: had not yet been committed. Um, but they're getting it started.
Speaker 1: They do a lot in Poland. They do a lot
Speaker 1: of atrocities in Poland, and they're on meth for those atrocities.
Speaker 1: Which is not to say that they're committing those atrocities
Speaker 1: because of meth, but meth does make it a lot
Speaker 1: easier to commit atrocities if you want, if you want
Speaker 1: to get a lot of people to commit atrocities, without
Speaker 1: sleeping for several days. Meta amphetaman is really your best bet,
Speaker 1: you know. Or brown round. We could do some brown
Speaker 1: round and record a podcast, Sophie, can we can? We
Speaker 1: can we commit? Please listen. It's not going to help
Speaker 1: you record a podcast, but it's gonna make it a
Speaker 1: lot easier to record a podcast. Yeah, Sophie, I've got
Speaker 1: all the gunpowder. All we need is the cocaine. You're
Speaker 1: in l A. You can get it, okay, Well, alright, fine,
Speaker 1: yeah they do. Saw it on average street corner here. Yeah. So.
Speaker 1: Leo Kanti grows concerned about the long term impact of
Speaker 1: meth abuse on the health of German people. In late
Speaker 1: nineteen and nineteen early inteen forties, Germany prepared to invade France,
Speaker 1: he pushed for new regulations that insured prevented was only
Speaker 1: available to citizens by prescription. So he makes it not
Speaker 1: over the counter anymore for citizens not against Soldiers are
Speaker 1: still getting issued this and of course the German people
Speaker 1: largely ignored this dictate. You could find a doctor who
Speaker 1: could get it to you. Factory workers, doctors, nurses, government beercrats,
Speaker 1: everybody was on it like coma. Yeah, I have got comma,
Speaker 1: give me my fucking meth. Uh. Timmler massively surged their production,
Speaker 1: expanding to make more than eight hundred and thirty three
Speaker 1: thousand tablets per day. Most soldiers received pills. During the
Speaker 1: invasion of France, German servicemen to spense more than thirty
Speaker 1: five million meth pills. That's some that's a good amount
Speaker 1: of meth. That's like, that's like two and a half
Speaker 1: Walter White's worth of methamphetas you know. Um. It was
Speaker 1: also handed out in chocolate bars for pilots. Uh. And
Speaker 1: for tank drivers you had, Yeah, you had Fliger chocolade
Speaker 1: and Penzer Schokolade. So you had like tank chocolate and
Speaker 1: fighter pilot chocolate. Um. And these were a little bit
Speaker 1: more mellow. You didn't want to as kind of like
Speaker 1: like hardcore a hit as you got with the pills
Speaker 1: if you were like piloting a vehicle. Um. Oh that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Cool cool, Yeah, I mean that's not that's
Speaker 1: you know my motto, Sophie, only take half as much
Speaker 1: meths if you're going to be pie letting an aircraft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do that often. It's good advice. It's good advice. Um.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of a pilot announcing himself to
Speaker 1: all his passengers. I mean, like, and you guys, I
Speaker 1: have some chocolate for this trip. I got I gotta
Speaker 1: cho I got me a chocolate bar. Y'all pulled onto
Speaker 1: your hats. Yeah, it's gonna be rad um. So that said.
Speaker 1: So again, everyone was using it, but it's primary use.
Speaker 1: And the people taking the most meth where the infantry,
Speaker 1: the people marching. Most of the German military advanced on
Speaker 1: foot for all the like, for all of the the
Speaker 1: attention that blitz Creed gets. Most of their soldiers are
Speaker 1: not in vehicles. Most of them don't even have horses.
Speaker 1: Most of them are fucking walking um, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of walking to do, and so they take a
Speaker 1: funkload of meth to allow them to walk for days.
Speaker 1: And then after you've walked for two days straight, you
Speaker 1: might need to get into a gunfight, so you want
Speaker 1: to be alert, so you want to take a funkload
Speaker 1: of meth. Historian Shelby Stanton writes, quote, they dispensed it
Speaker 1: to the line. Troops of their army had to march
Speaker 1: on foot day and night. It was more important for
Speaker 1: them to keep punching during the blitz creeg than to
Speaker 1: get a good night's sleep. The whole damn army was
Speaker 1: hopped up. It was one of the secrets of blitz Creek.
Speaker 1: When German tanks rolled around the magine O line and
Speaker 1: began the mass encirclement of the French army, a few
Speaker 1: key factors made their stunning victory possible. On an organizational level,
Speaker 1: this was the concept of Alftrug's talk tak. This German
Speaker 1: military concept vested an extreme degree of personal autonomy and
Speaker 1: unit commanders. In other words, officers weren't expected to follow
Speaker 1: orders and move them in into position. They were basically
Speaker 1: instead of being said, okay, I want you to do this,
Speaker 1: and I want you to move your men here and
Speaker 1: take this objective, then move here and take this, they
Speaker 1: were said, I need you to be in this location
Speaker 1: honor before this time, and kind of up to you
Speaker 1: to figure out like how to get your men there
Speaker 1: and whatnot. So you have as like a company commander,
Speaker 1: wa you have a lot of of discretion. And for
Speaker 1: young tank officers like Erwin Rommel, this meant driving for
Speaker 1: days ahead of the German art They were competing with
Speaker 1: all the other units and so they weren't like they
Speaker 1: weren't being told be here this point. They were told like, basically,
Speaker 1: go as far as you fucking can. Yeah, and they were,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to beat each other too, and
Speaker 1: they were They were advancing with a greater speed than
Speaker 1: any army had ever advanced, because number one, for the
Speaker 1: first time, these small units are kind of empowered to like,
Speaker 1: if you can go further, go further, don't wait for
Speaker 1: approval to advance again, just fucking do it if you
Speaker 1: think you can make it. And also they're on a
Speaker 1: ship fload of meth amphetamine, and so it's this mix
Speaker 1: of macho pride right there, competing with each other to
Speaker 1: see who can go the furthest fastest um and also
Speaker 1: fucking meth um, which synergized together really well. If you've
Speaker 1: ever seen a bunch of real dudes hopped up on math,
Speaker 1: dudes hopped up on meth, like, that's the r macht um.
Speaker 1: And they advanced further and faster than any army ever
Speaker 1: had in the history of warfare. And this attitude sees
Speaker 1: the very mooch from the top down. General Hinz Guderian,
Speaker 1: leader of the invasion, told his tank drivers, I demand
Speaker 1: that you go sleepless for at least three nights if
Speaker 1: that should be necessary. And again, there's no way to
Speaker 1: do that functionally, that funkload of speed. You know you're
Speaker 1: not You're not going to be able to functionally operate
Speaker 1: armored vehicles for three straight nights in a row if
Speaker 1: you're not taking something right us soldiers, it was a
Speaker 1: fedron and uh and rip fuel and ship, but like
Speaker 1: it was still something you need something. Um. There were,
Speaker 1: of course, consequences to all this rampant meth abuse from
Speaker 1: time Quote. Some users report negative side effects of the
Speaker 1: drug during the French invasion. These included a lieutenant colonel
Speaker 1: with the Panzer Air SATs Division one who experienced heart
Speaker 1: pains after taking Prevented four times daily for as many weeks,
Speaker 1: the commander of the twelfth Tank Division who rushed to
Speaker 1: a military hospital due to the heart attack he suffered
Speaker 1: an hour after taking one pill, and several officers who
Speaker 1: suffered heart attacks will off duty after taking Prevented. A
Speaker 1: decent number of officers died from this stuff, Conti continued.
Speaker 1: The right Health Officer continued to warn other high ranking
Speaker 1: Nazis that there was a serious danger to the Volkes
Speaker 1: health in early German newspapers quoted the BBC, who credited
Speaker 1: the blitz Creek success to meth pills. They'd captured Luftwaffe
Speaker 1: pilots over Berlin with preventing in their emergency bags. Stories
Speaker 1: spread from occupied France of German soldiers taking meth before
Speaker 1: visiting brothels and handing out love pills to the girls
Speaker 1: later that year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Nazis. I mean, Frances
Speaker 1: famous for its brothels, and Nazis are famous for their
Speaker 1: meth too. Great things that grow great together. It would
Speaker 1: suck to get roofied, and it would suck to get
Speaker 1: roofied with meth. Yeah, I don't know they're being ruthie
Speaker 1: because meth is incredibly popular at this point. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of them are probably just being like, hey, you
Speaker 1: want to take some meth with me and fuck? And
Speaker 1: that's I guess. If they're literally getting offered quote unquote
Speaker 1: love pills, it's just um because they're not blacken out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're being paid to. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a whole thing of all of the things
Speaker 1: that Nazis do that are immoral. Paying sex workers doesn't
Speaker 1: really hit yeah, um, that's it. I mean, obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I don't know who knows how many times they
Speaker 1: like trick people into eating pans or chocolate that don't
Speaker 1: know that there's methane it right, because they want to
Speaker 1: get the girl opted. I'm sure that happens. I'm sure
Speaker 1: some of them get dosed without consenting because their Nazis
Speaker 1: also they're men like they're they're young men in a
Speaker 1: like for anyway, it's it's just ship that you know,
Speaker 1: it's happen. It's common with every single military does versions
Speaker 1: of this throughout history. The Nazis are just the first
Speaker 1: ones who have access to meth. By the summer of
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one, well the Virmacht prepared for Operation Barbarossa
Speaker 1: County succeeded in pushing an amendment to the opium Law
Speaker 1: that heavily restricted prevented from German citizens. The military was
Speaker 1: exempted from this. Of course, the Vermocht had to blitz
Speaker 1: another creek and they weren't going to do it sober.
Speaker 1: The use of prevented during the Russian invasion is not
Speaker 1: well documented. This is because the records the Nazis kept
Speaker 1: up that period were largely lost or destroyed when the
Speaker 1: war went pear shaped for them. The Official Journal of
Speaker 1: German Military Physician to Publish Physicians published articles in nineteen
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three that included letters from medical officers reporting
Speaker 1: that they had been ordered to dose their soldiers with prebitin.
Speaker 1: The best information we have suggests that it was just
Speaker 1: as common as it had been in France. In fact,
Speaker 1: military doctors found new uses for the drug. They mixed
Speaker 1: it with morphine, creating crude speedballs in order to increase
Speaker 1: the analgesic effect on wounded soldiers. You got shot, give
Speaker 1: them some methanopium, like, give him a speedball. Like I'm
Speaker 1: frat making jungle juice. It's like everything you have in
Speaker 1: your pockets into this pale. Most of the vermk stuff
Speaker 1: was transported on horseback, and the army found that giving
Speaker 1: horses meth allowed them to work a lot harder and faster,
Speaker 1: so their method up the horses. Why am I annoyed
Speaker 1: by this so much? Like you said, they're doing like
Speaker 1: so much worse ship, But I'm like, you just leave
Speaker 1: the horses out of it. Why are you giving meth
Speaker 1: to the horses? Guy, guys, guys, Nazis. You guys are
Speaker 1: really really living up to the name right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like you all might not have everyone's best
Speaker 1: interests at heart. Um so yeah, now again, so they
Speaker 1: find a lot of new uses, and especially in the
Speaker 1: early days because the German the advances in early Barbarosa
Speaker 1: are just unprecedented, I think still unequaled in the history
Speaker 1: of warfare in terms of like the length of time,
Speaker 1: the number of there's there's single battles where they take
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand prisoners like in a day or like
Speaker 1: or so a fighting like they they've got they've encircled
Speaker 1: and just captured, like the population of Portland, Oregon. Like
Speaker 1: it's this massive, massive And part of how it's possible
Speaker 1: is they don't have to sleep for days because they're
Speaker 1: on a funklet of mess. Now, if you've never taken
Speaker 1: stimulants for days in order to drive or otherwise travel
Speaker 1: long distances, I'll explain how it works. The first two
Speaker 1: or three days are great. If you're young and healthy.
Speaker 1: You can just take a nap after like forty seventy
Speaker 1: two hours and then go hard for like another forty
Speaker 1: eight hours, and you're gonna suffer minimal consequences. I say minimal,
Speaker 1: but what I mean is that the damage you're do
Speaker 1: into your body and mind won't be immediately obvious, especially
Speaker 1: since listening to Alex Jones while pounding benz Adrien and
Speaker 1: driving through the desert can be a lot of fun
Speaker 1: when you're allegedly nineteen. Now after a few days less
Speaker 1: if you're older, the speed stops working as well. You
Speaker 1: may still be awake technically, but you won't be alert.
Speaker 1: You'll be jittery, you'll start to hallucinate, you'll suffer heart palpitations.
Speaker 1: You may not want to eat, which will will of
Speaker 1: course make you crash even harder when the crash comes.
Speaker 1: If you've been driving a bunch of mushrooms across the Southwest,
Speaker 1: that's not such a big deal, because after you drive
Speaker 1: a couple of days, you could stop and crash for
Speaker 1: sixteen hours and your friends futon and you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: German soldiers during Barbarossa didn't have a friend's futon to
Speaker 1: crash on, and they weren't finishing up after a couple
Speaker 1: of days. Again, they conquered Alex Jones, though they would have.
Speaker 1: They would have liked Alex Jones. I mean not early
Speaker 1: Alex Jones as much certainly today Alex Jones um so
Speaker 1: German soldiers. During Barbarosa. Again, they had conquered more territory
Speaker 1: more quickly than any army. At least tank units were
Speaker 1: covering hundreds of miles in a space of days. The
Speaker 1: problem with Russia, though, is that it's very big. There's
Speaker 1: there's quite a lot of Russia, and the Russians just
Speaker 1: kept retreating in France a few days of friends of
Speaker 1: like they could they could go, let's let's none of
Speaker 1: us sleep for like five days and we'll drive the
Speaker 1: whole time, and we'll have conquered most of France and
Speaker 1: like you know, we'll be well on our way to
Speaker 1: winning this war. Um Russia didn't work that way because
Speaker 1: there was so much of it left. So by the
Speaker 1: time they reached the point where it's like, well, we
Speaker 1: even on meth. We can't keep taking meth and not sleeping.
Speaker 1: We're all crashing, We're not functional, we're hallucinating. We have
Speaker 1: to stop and rest. Well, that point hit where they're
Speaker 1: still in the fucking middle of Russian surrounded by enemies
Speaker 1: who have not collapsed the way the French did, which
Speaker 1: is a bad situation to be in. Right, meth turns
Speaker 1: out to maybe not be the best way to conquer Russia, um,
Speaker 1: whereas it apparently it is pretty good if you're if
Speaker 1: you're trying to conquer France. Historically meth could help. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend it if you're trying to conquer Russia and
Speaker 1: a really bad hangover, as being in the middle of Russia, Yeah,
Speaker 1: attacked by Red Army partisan, Yeah, you do not want
Speaker 1: to be a coming down from three a three day
Speaker 1: meth bender under heavy fire. It's very much like it
Speaker 1: looks to camera. I wonder, like you want to know
Speaker 1: how I ended up here? Bet you're wondering why I
Speaker 1: ended up here. And it's just a montage of somebody
Speaker 1: taking a bunch of meth pills driving a tank. Real
Speaker 1: fest like World War two. Yeah. Yeah, So after the
Speaker 1: first several weeks of Barbarosa, they had no time to recover,
Speaker 1: and they hadn't won a victory. German soldiers at the
Speaker 1: wrong end of a meth bender found themselves exhausted, sick,
Speaker 1: and surrounded by an enemy just waiting to counteract a
Speaker 1: bunch of racked ass infantry whose eyesight was probably eight
Speaker 1: percent hallucinations. Norman Older quotes one German military doctor at
Speaker 1: the time who wrote, I didn't take preventing myself, or
Speaker 1: at least not often, just wants to try it to
Speaker 1: know what I was prescribing. I can tell you it worked.
Speaker 1: It kept you awake mercilessly. We knew it was addictive
Speaker 1: and that it had health side effects psychosis, nervous excitement,
Speaker 1: a loss of strength, and in Russia it was a
Speaker 1: war of attrition. Positional warfare in such circumstances, prevented was
Speaker 1: no use. It just exhausted you. You eventually had to
Speaker 1: catch up on the rest you'd missed. Sleep deprivation simply
Speaker 1: didn't bring any tactical advantages anymore. So they just reached
Speaker 1: the point where this is again something that people who
Speaker 1: get addicted always learned. The ship that used to work
Speaker 1: don't work no more. That's how fucking meth works for
Speaker 1: the Nazis in Russia, goes great in Poland and France,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly the worm, you know, worms turned Now
Speaker 1: in late nineteen forty one, the Russians counterattacked, the Wehrmacht held,
Speaker 1: but they suffered severe casualties, and more importantly, the fact
Speaker 1: that the Red Army had failed to collapse and in
Speaker 1: fact been able to counter attack, punctured the myth of
Speaker 1: German and vulnerability. Then came the Russian winter, which the
Speaker 1: Germans were not prepared for. I'm not going to read
Speaker 1: like Merry Christmas married Chris, those motherfucker's this is our lives. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to relitigate the whole lost frontier, but
Speaker 1: you know the gist of the story. The Russians used
Speaker 1: their basically limited limitless manpower reserves to hurl attack after
Speaker 1: attack against the Germans, eventually breaking through their lines and
Speaker 1: encircling several armies. It was only when the tide turned
Speaker 1: against Germany that prevented became useful again from blitzed. Often
Speaker 1: the only thing that helped was prevented. One of many examples,
Speaker 1: in the fishing village of the Zvod on the southern
Speaker 1: shore of Lake Limit between Moscow and Liningrad, the Germans
Speaker 1: were encircled, their lodgings set on fire, rations arriving only
Speaker 1: sporadically from the ice cold air. One last tiny window
Speaker 1: of escape was open, and five d exhausted men loaded
Speaker 1: with heavy bags and machine guns over their shoulders began
Speaker 1: a fourteen hour night march through waist deep snow. Soon
Speaker 1: many men were, as the official Wehrmacht report has it,
Speaker 1: in a state of extreme exhaustion. The snowfall had stopped
Speaker 1: from around midnight and the sky was filled with stars.
Speaker 1: Innervated soldiers wanted to lie down in the snow. In
Speaker 1: spite of energetic pep talks there power could not be revived.
Speaker 1: Such men were each given to permit and tablets after one.
Speaker 1: After half an hour, the firstman confirmed they felt better.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to retreat across Russia and need to
Speaker 1: be able to march after not sleeping through the snow
Speaker 1: in the dark. Math might help again. But by that
Speaker 1: point you know the war had gone against them. But
Speaker 1: you know what never goes against you. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think what you're coming up with here, because it can't
Speaker 1: be capitalism. It's it's the products and services that support
Speaker 1: this podcast. Always. They always have your back, always, always,
Speaker 1: allegedly allegedly allegedly. All right, here's the ads. We're back.
Speaker 1: All right, so we had some fun with the very
Speaker 1: mocked Um. I want to I'll tell one last story
Speaker 1: about this is about the German navy so very late
Speaker 1: in the war, like I think the German you know,
Speaker 1: their navy is not doing great. Nothing's really doing great
Speaker 1: for the Germans, and they decide their best idea is
Speaker 1: to create these suicide boats. They're basically torpedoes piloted by
Speaker 1: a man that he can suicide bomb a worship with um.
Speaker 1: And the idea was you would just seal a man
Speaker 1: in there and he would just like go for days
Speaker 1: until he found something to hit. And the best way
Speaker 1: to do that was they gave him speedballs, like this
Speaker 1: mix of meth amphetamine and opium on like basically methan oxy.
Speaker 1: He was just like taking methan oxy trapped inside a
Speaker 1: metal coffin underwater, like trying to find something to blow
Speaker 1: himself up into. Yeah, it's pretty good. So as the
Speaker 1: war in Russia bogged down and turned into a nightmare,
Speaker 1: Hitler's physical health began to degrade rapidly. This may have
Speaker 1: had something to do with his living conditions. For most
Speaker 1: of the war, Hitler cloistered himself away in a dank,
Speaker 1: mosquito filled complex in eastern Prussia known as the Wolf Slayer,
Speaker 1: and basically everyone who isn't Hitler fucking hates it here
Speaker 1: Um like it's a it's a miserable place. Um, it's cramped,
Speaker 1: it's it's basically these like tomb like bunkers because so
Speaker 1: they can't get bombed. They're like windowless. The area around
Speaker 1: it is like filled with mosquitoes. You're in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Um. It's just like everyone but Hitler pretty
Speaker 1: much hates it. Hitler, though, has grown increasingly paranoid in irrational,
Speaker 1: and so he likes the isolation. He likes being surrounded
Speaker 1: by these like thick walls of concrete and like um
Speaker 1: and this really worries the people close to him. During
Speaker 1: this time, Joseph Gebbels wrote tragic that the fur is
Speaker 1: closing himself off from life like this and leading such
Speaker 1: a disproportionately unhealthy existence. He no longer gets any fresh air.
Speaker 1: He doesn't take any kind of relaxation. He just sits
Speaker 1: in his bunker the same music. It doesn't even like,
Speaker 1: the same must hung out man wanted to watch. One
Speaker 1: of the few people who had constant access to the
Speaker 1: few was Theodore Morrell. Through the war, he would inject
Speaker 1: more than eighty dif and substances mixed together and dozens
Speaker 1: of different concoctions. Again, it's impossible to say how much
Speaker 1: of Hitler's growing irrationality was due to the wild mix
Speaker 1: of hormones and drugs Morrell pumped into him, but Hitler's
Speaker 1: general's noticed a difference in his behavior. In mid nineteen
Speaker 1: forty two, Field Marshal Eric von Manstein tried to convince
Speaker 1: Hitler to alter his plans in the Southeastern Front, where
Speaker 1: the dictator had diverted crucial forces from the main battlefield.
Speaker 1: As the Russians threatened to break through, critical decisions needed
Speaker 1: to be made, and Hitler was the guy to make
Speaker 1: them because he made himself commander in chief of the military.
Speaker 1: Manstein wrote quote as before no full decisions are being made.
Speaker 1: It is as if the fewer is not capable of it.
Speaker 1: Norman Ohler suspects that Hitler's issue here stemmed apart from
Speaker 1: the wild change in his life the war brought. Prior
Speaker 1: to the invasions, Hitler addressed his people constantly he was
Speaker 1: in some ways a drug for the German people because
Speaker 1: being in a crowd like that, being hyped up. Look
Speaker 1: at the Trump rallies, right, it is a drug going
Speaker 1: to that. Having that kind of experience with the people
Speaker 1: who do it, they get addicted to it, and the
Speaker 1: person the demagogue gets addicted to it. Hitler was very
Speaker 1: much addicted to the adulation of crowds. It affects your
Speaker 1: brain in a way that's is psychochemically powerful. But when
Speaker 1: the word and the bombing started, Hitler had to stop
Speaker 1: putting himself in front of his people, and so he
Speaker 1: suddenly loses access to this thing that he's really psychologically
Speaker 1: addicted to. From blitzed, Hitler now missed those ecstasies that
Speaker 1: his appearances had previously prompted, and which had always amounted
Speaker 1: to a new injection of the pepped up feeling that
Speaker 1: was so important to his self esteem. In his isolation,
Speaker 1: all pleasure and energy previously received from the attention of
Speaker 1: a cheering crowd had to be replaced by chemicals, further
Speaker 1: cocooning the dictator. He was the person who eventually needed
Speaker 1: artificial charging. In a sense Morel's drugs and medicines replaced
Speaker 1: the old stimulus of mass ovations. The sounds like one
Speaker 1: like a child actor doesn't become an actor, and then
Speaker 1: it's yeah, yeah, Hitler. Hitler's having what we might call
Speaker 1: them a coldie Culkin effect. There's a lot of similarities
Speaker 1: between them. I'm joking, I'm being mean to McCauley Culkin,
Speaker 1: who gave my friend a lap dance once. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: on his birthday. It was very nice. Um yeah, I've
Speaker 1: actually he seems to be a very nice guy. Very
Speaker 1: little in common with Hitler other than that they were
Speaker 1: both child stars, you know. And in fact, Hitler's original
Speaker 1: version of Home Alone, some would say is even superior,
Speaker 1: but heavily debated um. In late nineteen forty two, the
Speaker 1: Russians broke through around Stalingrad, encircling the German sixth Army.
Speaker 1: Hitler refused to allow them to break out and retreat,
Speaker 1: as that would mean ending the siege of the city. Um.
Speaker 1: He basically was like, if you guys really were not
Speaker 1: really like me, you'll you'll, you'll find a way to
Speaker 1: win somehow. Gering promised him that the Luftwaffe could would
Speaker 1: be able to keep hundreds of thousands of been supplied
Speaker 1: by the air which was a ridiculous promise. The US
Speaker 1: does manage something like this in Berlin after the war,
Speaker 1: the Berlin Airlift were like, there's this kind of conflict
Speaker 1: with USSR and so like the chunk of Berlin we
Speaker 1: have is kind of cut off. We can't refuel it
Speaker 1: by car and they have to like drop in supplies. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's just with with kind of the planes that
Speaker 1: the Leftwaffe has UM, with the technology they have, there's
Speaker 1: just no way to do it. Um. But Hitler believed
Speaker 1: Garing um and wound up learning that Garing was just
Speaker 1: a piece of ship and the liar um which surprise
Speaker 1: they all were UM. So by December nine that had
Speaker 1: become clear that Gering had no ability to keep the
Speaker 1: sixth Army supplied. Hitler was very angry at this um
Speaker 1: and Morrell noted that day that has suffered his patient
Speaker 1: suffered from intestinal gases, halitosis, and discomfort by the ne
Speaker 1: The war was decidedly not fun anymore, and the bad
Speaker 1: news increasingly outnumbered the good. Hitler asked his physician if
Speaker 1: he might try a new medication, cardia is all, which
Speaker 1: Garring had advised him to try for anxiety, since Hitler
Speaker 1: had heart problems. Morrell thought this was a bad idea.
Speaker 1: It was a blood thinner, I think, but older rights
Speaker 1: he understood this as a call to action Hitler, and
Speaker 1: he did something stronger to call him his nerves. The
Speaker 1: eventual drug he picked was an opiate called Yuka do All,
Speaker 1: which is basically oxy right like you all is kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing as oxy, close enough for government work.
Speaker 1: He first dozed Hitler with it on July eighteenth. Germany
Speaker 1: had just sent the best of its elite troops and
Speaker 1: tank forces into a massive battle with the Russians at
Speaker 1: a place called Kursk. The battle ended with Russian victory
Speaker 1: and over a million estimated casualties. It marked the last
Speaker 1: significant defense of the Germans would make in the East. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a single battle, um where there are more casualties than
Speaker 1: in the US Civil War, Like curse is a nightmare.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, eight hundred thousand Russian, two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand or so German and this is the last. This
Speaker 1: is kind of like when the German armies stops being
Speaker 1: capable of offensives in the East, is cursed. So obviously
Speaker 1: not a good day for Hitler. He's kind of bummed
Speaker 1: out about this, right, His favorite toy is broken. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to shoot himself in a bunker. You know,
Speaker 1: we've all been there in our own ways. I wonder
Speaker 1: what Gerbel's diary, and it was that day. Hitler sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hitler really right now, Yeah, he's oh, he has so
Speaker 1: bombed out. He's kind of bringing us all down just
Speaker 1: because he got a million men killed for nothing, well,
Speaker 1: killed and wounded. Hitler was devastated by the defeat, and
Speaker 1: his normal mix of hormones, steroid speed and vitamins was
Speaker 1: not enough. From blitzed. Hitler saw all his hopes going
Speaker 1: up in smoke, and because of the imminent betrayal of
Speaker 1: the Italian army, we were about to surrender. He had
Speaker 1: not slept a wink. As Morrell wrote, body tensed hard
Speaker 1: as a board full of gases, very pale appearance, extremely
Speaker 1: nervous tomorrow, very important discussion with I Duce that's Mussolini.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, Morrell was dragged from
Speaker 1: his bed by heinz Ling Hitler's valet. The Fewer was
Speaker 1: bent double with pain and an immediate cure was required.
Speaker 1: The white cheese he had had for dinner, as well
Speaker 1: as the roulade with spinach and peas, had disagreed with him.
Speaker 1: Morrell gave him an injection, but the basic medical treatment
Speaker 1: didn't work. The doctor wondered feverishly what needed to be
Speaker 1: done to combat the great attack in this precarious situation.
Speaker 1: He knew it's something that worked, something that would numb
Speaker 1: Hitler severe pain and keep him functioning. He needed an
Speaker 1: ace up his sleeve, and in fact he did have something,
Speaker 1: but its use was risky. For the second quarter of
Speaker 1: nineteen forty three. In the bottom right corner of the
Speaker 1: file card Patient A A Substances listed an underline several times,
Speaker 1: you could all this is the point at which he
Speaker 1: starts giving Hitler oxy. Hitler gets. Hitler gets like, you know,
Speaker 1: small town America addicted at this point. Um, And as
Speaker 1: you might guess from what happened to small town America
Speaker 1: when oxy went rampant, it does not have a positive
Speaker 1: impact on Hitler. It's not really good for anyone. Avoid
Speaker 1: being addicted to oxy content would be my advice if
Speaker 1: you're considering it. If you're on the line right now
Speaker 1: being like, should I get addicted to oxy? No? We say,
Speaker 1: we have a small opinion, but ours is now is no.
Speaker 1: No as well, no oxy? Yeah, stick with meth healthy
Speaker 1: meth amphetamine. Okay, So you could all had a massive
Speaker 1: and immediate positive impact on Hitler. His mood improved, He
Speaker 1: grew up to miss stick elated even, and he became
Speaker 1: much easier to work with. People around him were like, Wow,
Speaker 1: Hitler is a lot more pleasant when he's doped up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if I had to hang out
Speaker 1: with Hitler every day, you would want him to be high, right.
Speaker 1: You don't want to deal with sober Hitler or Hitler
Speaker 1: coming down like Jesus. Anything to the literally, give him
Speaker 1: any of yeah, shoot him with grab some from a pig,
Speaker 1: put it in him. Let's try it. Yeah, what other
Speaker 1: animals we got? Find a monkey, see if monkey stuff
Speaker 1: works in him. Um So, Morrell kept injecting the leader.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he would mix stimulants earlier in the day with
Speaker 1: opiates later in the day to calm him down. And
Speaker 1: from this point forward, Hitler was more or less constantly
Speaker 1: on something generally you could all every other day and
Speaker 1: particularly during key moments of decision. In his last meeting
Speaker 1: with Mussolini, a U S. Secret Service report noted that
Speaker 1: Hitler spoke for three hours without a break. Um so,
Speaker 1: Ohler writes quote. Mussolini had actually planned to convince Hitler
Speaker 1: that it would be better for everyone if Italy came
Speaker 1: out of the war, but all he did was need
Speaker 1: his painful back from time to time dab his forehead
Speaker 1: with a handkerchief or side deeply. The door kept opening
Speaker 1: to pass on new reports about the bombing of Rome,
Speaker 1: which was happening at that very moment. Mussolini couldn't even
Speaker 1: comment on this because Hitler was talking NonStop to a
Speaker 1: room full of painfully embarrassed people about how no one
Speaker 1: should doubt the imminent victory of the access powers. The
Speaker 1: dejected duche was effectively talked into the ground by the
Speaker 1: artificially pept up Fewer the result of the meeting Italy
Speaker 1: would stick at it for the time being. Morrell felt vindicated.
Speaker 1: He seemed to have maneuvered at high level politics with
Speaker 1: his injections, and he noted self importantly fewer fitting well,
Speaker 1: no complaints whatsoever. On the return flight, fearer declared in
Speaker 1: the ober Salzburg in the evening that the success of
Speaker 1: the day was to my credit. So Hitler's just fucking
Speaker 1: racked and spun and talks for three out, won't even
Speaker 1: let Mussolini say anything, and essentially like Mussolini's too like
Speaker 1: awfully awkward yeah to just to try to pull out
Speaker 1: of the war at this juncture. So that's cool, fun stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all hung out with the guy who
Speaker 1: was that kind of high at a party, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we've always we've all stayed in a world war
Speaker 1: at one point benefit and we're like, I just didn't
Speaker 1: know what to say. Yeah, I wanted to pull my
Speaker 1: forces out of the war before the Allies invaded. But
Speaker 1: like it's the tale as oldest time party. You're like,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to see me leave. You feel
Speaker 1: like I left too early. Hard to irish goodbye from
Speaker 1: a war exactly exactly good ship um so well, he
Speaker 1: was shooting a constant stream of narcotics and animal extracts
Speaker 1: into the veins of the mightiest warlord in history. Theodore
Speaker 1: Morrell was also running an increasingly elaborate side hustle. Hitler
Speaker 1: needed him so constantly that he could not run his
Speaker 1: own private practice, but his connection to the leader allowed
Speaker 1: him to steal a shipload of stuff. He was given
Speaker 1: one of the largest cooking oil manufacturers in Czechoslovakia, which
Speaker 1: had been stolen from its Jewish owners. He used the
Speaker 1: factory to produce an anti louse powder of his own invention,
Speaker 1: which did not work, but was mandatory for the Wehrmacht
Speaker 1: because again dudes connected his big setter sell. His big
Speaker 1: seller was Vita molten bars. These were an edible version
Speaker 1: of the vitamin shots he distributed so freely. Morrel also
Speaker 1: increasingly experimented with hormones derived from animal organs. When Ukraine
Speaker 1: was conquered by the Nazis, he used his connections to
Speaker 1: take possession of several slaughterhouses worth of fresh animal organs
Speaker 1: and diverted scant Vermocht resources to ferrying these organs to
Speaker 1: his factories so they could be turned into experimental hormone medications.
Speaker 1: Now by three, the Reich Health Office had instituted a
Speaker 1: ban on introducing new medicine into the German market. This
Speaker 1: threatened Morrell's business, but he found a way to get
Speaker 1: around it. Since Hitler was at this point deeply reliant
Speaker 1: on the doctor, Morrell was allowed to experiment on Hitler
Speaker 1: with different extractions and injections. He argued successfully that if
Speaker 1: his drugs were safe for Hitler, they must be safe
Speaker 1: for the German people. Morrell wrote this to the right
Speaker 1: health office. The fewer has authorized me to do the
Speaker 1: following if I bring out in TESTI remedy and then
Speaker 1: apply it in the fewer's headquarters and apply it successfully,
Speaker 1: then it can be applied elsewhere in Germany and no
Speaker 1: longer needs authorization. It's a good add slogan. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's good for the fear, why can't you date it? Yeah? Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: As the war turned, other Nazis dealt with more anxiety
Speaker 1: over their imminent doom, Morrell began handing out his medications
Speaker 1: to the people closest to Hitler, including Ava Brown. She
Speaker 1: noticed the impact Merrell's drugs had on her partner's mood,
Speaker 1: and she wanted the same stuff. And Older suggests this
Speaker 1: is because like she wanted to she wanted to function,
Speaker 1: want to be intimate with her with her romantic partner,
Speaker 1: and he was racked as hell all the time. She
Speaker 1: was like, well, if we're going to be intimate, I
Speaker 1: need to be on whatever he's on, right, Like, we
Speaker 1: need to be on the same thing, otherwise it's going
Speaker 1: to be impossible to connect, which I guess is understandable. Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, not ecstasy. It's like, yeah, it's it's it's well,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about what it is. So Hitler was injected
Speaker 1: with testosterone for his libido, and Brown was given medication
Speaker 1: to suppress her menstruation. They were both given regular injected
Speaker 1: speedballs mixes of uppers and downers by Morrel so that
Speaker 1: they would be in the same headspace and stuff just
Speaker 1: given the best chance of being able to bone. Now,
Speaker 1: from his first you Could All injection in nineteen forty
Speaker 1: three to the end of nineteen forty four, Morrel it
Speaker 1: noted administering you Could All at least twenty four times.
Speaker 1: Older suggests the real number was much higher. And just
Speaker 1: as with his meth, Morrell didn't always write out what
Speaker 1: he was giving the fury. Sometimes, just like an injection
Speaker 1: that included some of that, you know, you wouldn't know
Speaker 1: exactly what was in it. It would be fair to
Speaker 1: critique Older for speculation here, But when you take in
Speaker 1: the sheer quantity of injections Morrell gave Hitler, and the
Speaker 1: variety of substances that flowed through his brain, and the
Speaker 1: reports of people around him, I don't think he's unreasonable
Speaker 1: and suggesting Hitler was taking and and you know there's
Speaker 1: other evidence to the just he was taking a lot
Speaker 1: of uk at all um So he makes his case,
Speaker 1: in part by noting reports from those close to Hitler
Speaker 1: about the severity of his mood swings on critical days,
Speaker 1: and this is probably most notable with D Day, which
Speaker 1: is obviously pretty important day for a Hitler quote. Hitler's
Speaker 1: mood on D Day, another nail in the coffin for
Speaker 1: the Nazi state, was subject to severe fluctuations. At nine
Speaker 1: in the morning, he is said to have bellowed across
Speaker 1: the breakfast room. Is this the invasion or isn't it?
Speaker 1: When Morrell hurried over and gave him an injection of X,
Speaker 1: he calmed down, suddenly appeared affable and lighthearted, enjoyed the
Speaker 1: day and the fine weather, and clapped everyone he met
Speaker 1: jovially on the shoulder. At the mid day, it's D Day,
Speaker 1: It's d D Yeah. At the midday briefing, in spite
Speaker 1: of the looming military disaster, to everyone's astonishment, he revealed
Speaker 1: a beaming face, and at the lunch that followed siminola
Speaker 1: dumpling soup, mushrooms in a ring of rice, apt ful strudle,
Speaker 1: he fell into one of his endless distracted monologues. This
Speaker 1: time it was about elephants, which were the strongest animals
Speaker 1: in existence and which, like him, abhorred meat. Next, Hitler
Speaker 1: described in detail the horrors of a slaughter house he
Speaker 1: visited an occupied Poland. Girls in rubber boots had weighted
Speaker 1: in blood up to their ankles. Meanwhile, Morel was preparing
Speaker 1: his next injection, made from the glands of slaughtered animals.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that Hitler is literally like reciting from
Speaker 1: Jonathan Saffron Fower's eating animals, and like, at the same time, dude,
Speaker 1: you know how strong elephants are. They don't eat meant,
Speaker 1: they're just like me. I'm like an elephant. It is
Speaker 1: a great co rant or I guess, yeah, oxy and
Speaker 1: probably meth amphetamine. Like he's getting a bit of a
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of b um. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. And also that he's ranting about how
Speaker 1: horrible the meat industry is well being shot up with
Speaker 1: animal hormones that had been Yeah, the product of that industry. Um,
Speaker 1: it's good stuff. It's good stuff. Of Course, Hitler had
Speaker 1: always suffered from bizarre mood swings and from delusions, but
Speaker 1: Ohler is right that people close fewer noted his mental degradation,
Speaker 1: and again I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that
Speaker 1: the constant doses of hormones and narcotics shot into a
Speaker 1: fifty something year old man sped up this process. Late
Speaker 1: in the war, a Nazi named Klaus von Staffenberg tried
Speaker 1: to kill Hitler with a briefcase bomb. It didn't take,
Speaker 1: but it did blow out both of Hitler's ear drums.
Speaker 1: An ear, nose and throat specialist was brought in, Dr
Speaker 1: Irvin Geissing, and he was immediately horrified at the fewer's health.
Speaker 1: And from geising we get our really interesting descriptions of
Speaker 1: Hitler in this period of time. Quote. The face was pale,
Speaker 1: slightly swollen, and there were large bags under both bloodshot eyes.
Speaker 1: The eyes did not make the fascinating impressions so often
Speaker 1: ascribed to them in the press. I was particularly struck
Speaker 1: by the wrinkles from either side of the nose to
Speaker 1: the outer corner of the mouth, and by the dry,
Speaker 1: slightly cracked lips. His hair was already clearly mixed with
Speaker 1: gray and rather unkimped. The face was well shaven, but
Speaker 1: with but with somewhat withered skin, which I attribute to fatigue.
Speaker 1: The speech was a naturally loud and tended towards a
Speaker 1: shout and later became somewhat hoarse and aged, almost depleted,
Speaker 1: an exhausted man who had to make do with what
Speaker 1: was left of his strength. Hitler, it's like crying, yeah,
Speaker 1: listening to the cure. Yeah. Hitler was clearly an ill man,
Speaker 1: and when he met Morrell. When Dr Geesing met Morrell
Speaker 1: and started to learn what was being given to the leader,
Speaker 1: he was furious. And it's also from Geeszing that we
Speaker 1: get some of our best information on how the doctor
Speaker 1: conducted himself during this time. So this is Geesing writing
Speaker 1: about Morrell giving Hitler his treatment. Quote. Morrell comes in distinctly,
Speaker 1: short of breath and panting. He shakes only Hitler's hand
Speaker 1: and asks asks agitatedly whether anything in particular happened during
Speaker 1: the night. Hitler says no, he slept well and even
Speaker 1: adjested the previous night's salad without any difficulty. Then, with
Speaker 1: the help of Ling, he takes off his coat, sits
Speaker 1: back in his armchair, and pulls up his left sleeve.
Speaker 1: Morrell gives Hitler the injections. He pulls the needle out
Speaker 1: again and wipes the punk true site with a handkerchief.
Speaker 1: Then he leaves the room and goes into the office,
Speaker 1: holding in his right hand that you syringed and in
Speaker 1: the left empty am puels, one large and too small.
Speaker 1: He goes with the ham pules into syringe into the
Speaker 1: adjacent orderly's bathroom, rinses the syringe out himself, and destroys
Speaker 1: the empty ampules by throwing them in the toilet. Then
Speaker 1: he washes his hands, comes back into the office and
Speaker 1: says goodbye to everyone present. That's Hitler Steeler right there,
Speaker 1: just heading out, just heading out, and also like flushing
Speaker 1: everything to make sure people can't like check it out,
Speaker 1: analyze it, see what's in it. You know. Some of
Speaker 1: that's probably because this is how he makes his money,
Speaker 1: you know, keeping like you know, he's running a business.
Speaker 1: He's selling versions of this stuff. Some of it's probably
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want Hitler's other doctors to know what
Speaker 1: the funk Hitler's being given, like the fact that he's, yeah,
Speaker 1: the stuff that I've been doping up our leader, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the two doctors quickly came to hate each other.
Speaker 1: Obviously one of them, I mean there, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: They're both a little bit sketchy, but morrel is obviously
Speaker 1: much sketch year um. Dr Geesing, though was not straight
Speaker 1: edge either. His preferred treatment for ear, nose and throat
Speaker 1: medical stuff was cocaine. And so after this point he
Speaker 1: administered coke to Hitler in the form of nose and
Speaker 1: throat dabs more than yuh, this is what you've been missing.
Speaker 1: You just needed a little bit of coke. That'll get
Speaker 1: your Hitler going. That'll Hitler. You're right on up, buddy, um.
Speaker 1: And so after this point he administered cocaine to Hitler
Speaker 1: more than fifty times over the next seventy five days.
Speaker 1: He used an extremely strong ten percent solution and absolutely
Speaker 1: got the German leader high as fuck. In fact, Hitler
Speaker 1: was noted by his doctors having quote slight cocaine sniffed
Speaker 1: during this period. So he's got the drip, He's like,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's got the coke sniff going on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He quickly took it for more than just ear problems,
Speaker 1: telling Geesing after one dose, my mind is freed again
Speaker 1: and I feel very well. Then, adding please don't turn
Speaker 1: me into a cocaine addict, Geeseing assured him that realitics
Speaker 1: snorted cocaine can't be an addict if you're dropping it
Speaker 1: into your fucking eye. Bro, That's what I say. That's
Speaker 1: how that's so. It keeps you from being addicted. You
Speaker 1: just drop it into your fucking eye. You don't be
Speaker 1: snarting it like an addict. That's gross. Like you, guys,
Speaker 1: please don't if if you think this is a problem
Speaker 1: of I'm like being an asshole, just tell me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just be honest. If you think I'm out of do
Speaker 1: you think I'm out of control and you think I'm
Speaker 1: doing too much coke, my coke dealer? No, bro, You're good,
Speaker 1: You're beautiful bro um. Yeah. Now, Geeson was though a
Speaker 1: better doctor than Morrel, and he eventually grew unsettled by
Speaker 1: the fact that he was essentially now the coke dealer,
Speaker 1: if the absolute ruler of his country. He tried to
Speaker 1: cut off Hitler's supply, and this did not go over well.
Speaker 1: Hitler was like, I've got an important meeting. I can't
Speaker 1: function because my ears hurt so bad. You have to
Speaker 1: give me a shipload of cocaine. Um, And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give any more coke. Hitler said,
Speaker 1: quote no doctor continuous before this morning. I have a
Speaker 1: terrible robbing head that probably comes from the sniffing. Concerned
Speaker 1: for the future and the continued existence of Germany are
Speaker 1: consuming me more and more with each passing day. I
Speaker 1: need the coke, man. I'm just so worried about Germany
Speaker 1: doing because I love I'm doing coke for my love
Speaker 1: of the fatherland. Like it's just about the fatherland, you know,
Speaker 1: classic coke had excuse um soe Geesing refused though, like said, like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you any more fucking cocaine
Speaker 1: and petulant Hitler refused to show up to his military
Speaker 1: briefings that day and deal with the fact that his
Speaker 1: army was collapsing. You don't give me coke. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to make sure that I'm not gonna give the
Speaker 1: army orders like fucking Hitler. I'm not gonna put on
Speaker 1: pants if I don't have coke. Yeah, so Geesing eventually
Speaker 1: was convinced to relent. I think the generals were like, dude,
Speaker 1: we can't give orders without him, Like we're not allowed to.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to do something, or you
Speaker 1: have to give him his fucking coke. Um and so
Speaker 1: uh He relented and he gave Hitler's some cocaine to
Speaker 1: save the German Army, but he demanded that if he
Speaker 1: was going to give Hitler the coke he had to
Speaker 1: give Hitler had to allow him to give the fewer
Speaker 1: a full medical checkout check up, which Geeseing did and
Speaker 1: eventually came to suspect that the anti farting pills Morrell
Speaker 1: had prescribed Hitler were causing some of the Feurer's health problems.
Speaker 1: He attempted to use this to force the physician out
Speaker 1: of Hitler's inner circle and perhaps even have him prosecuted.
Speaker 1: And there were a lot of folks close to Hitler
Speaker 1: who were worried about Morrell, who were like, this guy
Speaker 1: is doping the leader up. It's not good for Hitler,
Speaker 1: Like we gotta get this guy out of here, but
Speaker 1: Hitler likes him too much um And they kind of
Speaker 1: tried to back this effort to force Morrell out, but
Speaker 1: it just didn't work, as Hitler's first and best drug dealer,
Speaker 1: Morrell was just dug in too tight. As the Red
Speaker 1: Army closed in at the end of nineteen forty four,
Speaker 1: Hitler and Morrell had both retreated into a bunker under Berlin.
Speaker 1: Hitler by this point was jaundiced, as his liver had
Speaker 1: started to fail and his Parkinson's was advanced enough that
Speaker 1: he shook constantly. Morrell had to cancel several injections because
Speaker 1: the fewer's veins had collapsed. Right, that's like advanced smack
Speaker 1: addict stuff that like your veins aren't working anymore. It
Speaker 1: was reported that like when he when he would get
Speaker 1: an injection, it would crunch, like his veins were crunchy.
Speaker 1: He was a advanced addict um at this stage. Um
Speaker 1: so yeah. Still, though Morrell continued to shoot Hitler full
Speaker 1: of opium and hormones as often as possible, it is
Speaker 1: probable that these opiates contributed quite a lot to Hitler's
Speaker 1: g I issues. They can cause constipation, and there was
Speaker 1: using so frequently that he had significant issues with this.
Speaker 1: Morrel's notes state that the German leader had regular painful
Speaker 1: wind as his body fell apart. His guards in the
Speaker 1: bunker wrote entries like this about Hitler's bodily functions. Quote
Speaker 1: from four to from four until six four evacuations, two
Speaker 1: of which were weaker and two very strong. At the
Speaker 1: second after the passage of an obstruction explosive water evacuation.
Speaker 1: The third and fourth were very foul smelling, and particularly
Speaker 1: the four probably a decomposing agglomeration that had previously been
Speaker 1: left behind and had become a cause of gases in
Speaker 1: the formation of toxic substances, regularly improved condition and change
Speaker 1: of facial expression. He only card called me to impart
Speaker 1: the happy news of this effect, which is one of
Speaker 1: the undertold stories of the last Nazis around. Hitler is
Speaker 1: the third, right collapsed. We're just like standing there, like
Speaker 1: listening to him ship his guts out, like recording how
Speaker 1: bad it smelled. Which is I love that for Nazis.
Speaker 1: Actually it's yeah, yeah, I love that for them. As
Speaker 1: the Red Army closed in, Morrell finally lost his ability
Speaker 1: to provide his boss with the drugs he by this
Speaker 1: point badly needed again. Like there just was no ability
Speaker 1: to get more of them, right, Germany's industrial base had
Speaker 1: fucking collapsed, um And when Morrell ran out of drugs,
Speaker 1: he and Hitler had a falling out. Hitler suddenly like
Speaker 1: starts threatening to have him executed, and like it's like again,
Speaker 1: as soon as he can't get the dope, Morrell is
Speaker 1: out on his ass and yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: forced out of the bunker and he's successfully is like
Speaker 1: one of the last people to flee Berlin. He does
Speaker 1: get captured by the Allies, He's questioned turned for more
Speaker 1: than a year, and he dies soon after the war,
Speaker 1: impoverished and miserable. And of course we all know how
Speaker 1: Hitler died. So how I'm just kidding. Good story, having
Speaker 1: a good time. It's good stuff. It kind of is
Speaker 1: like a Marvel movie. I would in a Marvel movie.
Speaker 1: I would indie movie that came out where Paul Daniel
Speaker 1: Daniel Radcliffe are dealing with a farting corpse on a beach.
Speaker 1: It's like the marriage of those two. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that would be uh, that'd be a great Daniel Radcliffe
Speaker 1: could be Hitler. Um, Paul Rudd could be Theodore Morrell.
Speaker 1: James Gunn could direct. Um. Yeah, let's do it. Throw
Speaker 1: iron Man in there too, for some reason? Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? All right? Well, Carolina, how you feeling.
Speaker 1: I am feeling like the public and private school system
Speaker 1: failed me by not addressing these issues, um and not
Speaker 1: telling me these corners of history. And also I am
Speaker 1: feeling drug free. I'm feeling inspired to stay drug free
Speaker 1: for a while. And when I say drug free and
Speaker 1: not just the normy stuff, but I feel like not
Speaker 1: smoking meth is at this point an accomplishment. Yes, and
Speaker 1: don't don't don't do meth. We were just I don't
Speaker 1: think it would make me into a nath but you
Speaker 1: know it doesn't. Know. You don't want to get too
Speaker 1: much in the vent diagram with their behavior and just
Speaker 1: meth being one thing that they did and makes it
Speaker 1: all the less appealing. You will not become a Nazi
Speaker 1: because you smoke meth. But if you're a Nazi and
Speaker 1: you smoke meth, you'll become more of a Nazi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a general rule. If you start taking a shipload
Speaker 1: of meth, the things about you that are already not great,
Speaker 1: Like everybody has things about them that suck. And one
Speaker 1: of the downsides of a drug like meth is that
Speaker 1: it it makes everything about you bigger and more so.
Speaker 1: And so the meth will whatever you don't like about yourself,
Speaker 1: the meth will make me more of a thing about yourself,
Speaker 1: and perhaps that's not something you want. And this was
Speaker 1: brought to you by Nancy Reagan's Drug for America. Yes,
Speaker 1: and the council for maybe tryoxy instead the drug with
Speaker 1: no consequences oxy content. Don't look at the Midwest also
Speaker 1: also no good stuff. Well, Carolina, you get any flogables
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Speaker 1: This was the coolest podcast I've ever been able to
Speaker 1: be on. Well, thank you so much for coming along
Speaker 1: Carolina and talking with me about Hitler and meth and
Speaker 1: Hitler's horrible farts. It's it's just all been amory, a magical,
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