1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: What's up. This is Race Saron Jenkins, and you're listening 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: to the Charges Podcast Network. What's up, guys. Welcome to 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly. And we haven't 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: done one of these beat writer round tables in a while. 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: It's been about a month. So I got a six 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: box here. Let's start with Haleyolwood, Chargers dot Com, Jeff Miller, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times, Daniel Popper, The Athletic, Jason Hirschhorn, Sports Illustrated, 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Joe Ready, Associated Press, ladies and gentlemen. Happy Thursday. We're 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: taping this on a Thursday. Hey, you guys doing I'm 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: doing well? Is it a six box? Is that like 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: a real thing? Is that a real phrase? Now that 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: we use I must have disappointed it. I must have 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: just coined it. I have to say, I don't know. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how right there? Yeah, I don't know 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: if you guys can. I don't know how you're viewing this, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: but I haven't viewed as like a Hollywood Squares type 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: six box. Nice. Nice. Take us about three hours to 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: get Jeff to that point, So let's just side first 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: of all, Jeff, miss Jeff, Jeff Miller, big time to 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: start the draft. Uh yeah, right around we had a 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: couple of them. We had a I think everybody here 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: was pretty faithful to the to the round table. Jeff 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: had bigger plans I had. Well, I had to take 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: care of the people who write my paychecks. That's what 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: I had to do. So that's a former newspaperman. I 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: can relate. Deadlines are a doozy, So I give him 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: a pass on that one. Yeah, of course we joke 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: because Jeff does great work, and you had you had deadlines, 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: So that's the name of the game. That is the 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: name of the game for me. Still, some of us 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: still are behold the h a certain time frame. So 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm miss I would have loved to have 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: talked about the draft, but I'm sure you guys covered 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it well and hit all the high spots. Well, I 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: think we did. And like I said, it's been about 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: a month since we've done this last I guess Hailey, 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: let's start with you. What have you learned about this 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: team that maybe we didn't know a month ago? Talking 39 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: about the draft and the schedule of Lacy. What are 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: maybe a few things it's stuck out to you? Yeah, 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good question to start, I 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: think just kind of how everyone's navigating the virtual meeting world. 43 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start personally with rookie Minicamp because I 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: actually got a chance to sit in on one of 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: their meetings and just how that shifted from what we 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: knew rookie Minicamp to be to what it was in 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and it seemed to actually go really well. 48 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: So guys basically had their normal football meetings that took 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: the place of you know, what they would be doing 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: out on the field or supplementing I guess, and then 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: they had player development sections and one of the really 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: cool things was for the player development parts to those meetings, 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: they had special guests come in. So I think it 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: was on Saturday. They had Tom tallesco talk, they had 55 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: John Spano's talk, and they had some players talk as well, 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: one of them being Austin Eckler, who I know we 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: all heard from just this week, who spoke with the media. 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: And I got a chance to talk to a couple 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: of the undrafted rookies and one of them, Jeff Cotton 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: out of Idaho wide receiver. He had said it was 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: so great just hearing from Austin, because that's a guy 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: who's done it. He's done it before. You saw him 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: get that contract, you saw him make the fifty three 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: as a rookie to where he is today, and just 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: to kind of tap into that, I think that's so 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: important because those guys, though, and those undrafted guys pretty 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: much any rookie as well, this is a whole new 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: world that they're having to navigate, and the odds may 69 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: be stacked against them. But to give those guys maybe 70 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: those tools and those resources is huge, especially just given 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: this environment that we're all in right now. Yeah, Austin, Wait, 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: thirty minutes on the media, Chatty Kathy, Yeah, Kadi, Kathy there, Papa, 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: what about you? I think it's the virtual meetings. Obviously 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: it's new for everybody, but in terms of the mental 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: aspect of the game, I feel like you can really 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of lock in and concentrate with some of this stuff. Yeah. Well, 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: first off, with Austin, anyone who spent time in the 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: Chargers locker room know that it is very in character 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: for him. He will talk at length about pretty much 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: any topic, be very thoughtful. Um. The second, Jason, did 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you get a haircut? A self done haircut. It looks fantastic. 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually thank you. It looks like you went to 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the Barbara all right. Not to answer your question, Um, 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, I've been chatting with a lot of the 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: draft picks, the rookies, and there is some frustration there, 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: like they it is a challenging time for them obviously, 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: like it wouldn't specifically talking about football, because you get 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: drafted and usually that first weekend, I mean it's like 89 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: five six days after you get drafted. You know, you're 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: at the facility, You're meeting coaches, you're on the field, 91 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: you're at rookie mini camp, you're playing football. I mean, 92 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: that's what these guys want to do. It's it's it's 93 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: a bit dream of theirs for you know, eighteen to 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty years, depending on how all these guys are, you know, 95 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: twenty years and you know they're not getting an opportunity 96 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: to get on an NFL field, and so you have 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: to find other ways to keep yourself locked in. Um, 98 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to kJ hill Or this week 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, it's basically like I'm making 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: flash cards, like I'm in you know, biology class. It's 101 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: softomore year. Of high school, you know, Like that's what 102 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: it is we have to do to sit there like 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: you're studying for a test and go through these plays, 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: and like Austin said yesterday, like you have to be 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: so on top of the mental part of it because 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: when you do eventually get on the field, you better 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: know this stuff backwards and forwards, or else you're gonna 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: have no shot to make the team. Yeah. Absolutely, Jason, 109 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: what about you, Buddy? Well, for stars surprise that Popper 110 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: didn't make note of the beard. I'm working on trying 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: to match him in terms of how menacing I can 112 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: being menacing Daniel Popper. That's how I think of them too. 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: But in terms of these virtual meetings, we do focus 114 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: on the rookies because it is such a big step 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: for them to go from college, doesn't matter where they 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: went to college to the NFL. But we have to 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: keep in mind there's a lot of changes that are 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: going on with the charges that affect absolutely everybody, and 119 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: it would have helped so much for them to have real, 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: actual OTA's time on the field to work on those things. 121 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: The offensive particular, it is going to look so different 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: from how it did and of the last three years 123 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: or any point during the Anthony Lynn regime, and it 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: really matters that they aren't getting these opportunities to work 125 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: on the field. So it's not just someone like Justin 126 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Herbert who spent virtually his entire college career working from 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: pistol Tyrod. Taylor is gonna have to learn some new 128 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: things too because of how much they want to spend 129 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: under center, how much more outside zone we expect them 130 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: to use, and the moving pocket. We just heard a 131 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of the coaches talk about how that part of 132 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: the offensive particular is going to change. And you have 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Shane Stekin going into his first full year as an 134 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: officive coordinator. It's a great time if you could have 135 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: had it to be on the field with your players 136 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: teaching the new nuances, and they just aren't able to 137 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: do them the same way they normally would. Yeah, and 138 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: just like this podcast has to adjust, Like I have 139 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: six people on here, and I love when people interrupt 140 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: each other, and you know, you go back and it's 141 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: harder to do that because it's hard to talk over 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: each other. So everything is different in our world. Joe, 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: what have you noticed about kind of how the Chargers 144 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: are doing business the last month. It's like, the one 145 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: advantage with this, maybe compared to two thousan eleven, which 146 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: some of us do do remember in those days, is 147 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: that at least you're able to do installs during these 148 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: virtual meetings. Back in two eleven, also, iPad playbooks did 149 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: not exist at all. They were still cutting film and 150 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: everything and being on towers and hoping that they didn't 151 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: blow off to towers and everything while taping practices. So 152 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: at least they are getting installs. Um, I think the 153 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: odds of an undrafted guy making a roster labor Day 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: weekend is going to be long for most of every team. 155 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: That's where the expand of practice squads I think come 156 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: into benefit, because maybe week two or week three, we 157 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: start seeing those undrafted guys cracked a roster due to 158 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: injury and to other guys not being affective. So I 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: think the biggest news also for me, was earlier in 160 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: the week with Governor Newsom allowing pro Sports to open 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: in the state of California, because, let's face it, there 162 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: were a lot of people wondering after this stuff out 163 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles County a week or two ago, and 164 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: everybody's starting to get into the schedule looking between the lines, like, oh, 165 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: the Rams are going to go to Glendale, the Chargers 166 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: are going to go to Vegas for the year and everything. 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: So I think the fact that we could have a 168 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: training camp in Costa Mesa very likely without fans, but 169 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: the fact that everybody's going to be in the state 170 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: is a big deal and important. Jeff, you can go 171 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: back even beyond the draft and the schedule, because we 172 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: haven't talked to you in a while, just your overall 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on how the last maybe month or six weeks 174 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: have transpired for the Chargers. I think they've done This 175 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: team particular has done remarkably well. I think they in 176 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the draft, They've done well in the off season. I 177 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: think Tom Talesco has done a good job of rebuilding things. 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't think to this point, other than some of 179 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: the direct impact that's had on some of these young guys, 180 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: which we've talked about here, I think they've kind of 181 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: kept things going the way that they normally would have. 182 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, this week, the NFL allowing 183 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: some teams to get back into their facilities, you know, 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: and the Chargers are one of the teams that aren't 185 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: doing that. And I think that kind of speaks to 186 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: they don't feel like they're missing out on a whole lot. 187 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, I don't think Tom Palesco 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: feels like this has been a really compromised off season 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: for him, roster building wise. I think he's done pretty 190 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: much what he probably would have wanted to do. And 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: so I think they've done it. I think they've navigated 192 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: as well as anybody has. Now is we're going to 193 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: start to see, you know, things are going to get 194 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: different now because this is when we'd be seeing a 195 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: mini camp would be coming and we'd have everybody together. Uh, 196 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: and so that's that's not going to happen. And you know, 197 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: how how teams go from here is what's going to determine. Um, 198 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, the success of teams have this season. I 199 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: think it's just gonna be one of those seasons where 200 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: the teams that come together faster are going to be 201 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: the ones that are better off. And a lot of 202 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: that stuff, as we know, is it's almost fate and 203 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: by chance and stuff. So um, but I think to 204 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: this point, you know, the Chargers are I think they 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: have to be happy where they're at, and it's just 206 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of where they go from here. 207 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something that that Joe 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: brought up because it's it kind of resonated with me 209 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. Coach Lynn talked about it, 210 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and then obviously Austin went at length about the fact 211 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: that it's going to be very difficult for a lot 212 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: of these undrafted free agents to make this football team, 213 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and really just not with the Chargers, but all on 214 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: the NFL when you don't have those reps during OTAs 215 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: in mini camp. Austin spoke to the fact that he 216 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: had to mess up in OTAs in mini camp just 217 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: to know what to expect in training camp. And if 218 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: for anybody who wants to take this, I think that 219 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: was the biggest takeaway for me over the last couple 220 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: of weeks, is just how difficult it is to translate 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: what you're learning onto the football field. To not have 222 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the luxury of doing that for these next couple of 223 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: months before training camp, It's gonna be an uphill battle 224 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys. And perhaps Austin Eckler's 225 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: story would be quite different if he was going through 226 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: this in twenty twenty. Yeah, I'll jump in here. It's 227 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: not just about the opportunity to learn from mistakes and 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of figure out what you need to do. Very importantly, 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: it's about proving yourself to the coaching staff and to 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: the front office. If you don't have those opportunities, doesn't 231 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: matter how well you come off in those meetings. If 232 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: they don't believe you can do those things on the field, 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: it's not ultimately going to matter. And we don't know 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: what the training camp when it does come, what it's 235 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: going to look like. So if you're an undrafted free agent, 236 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, you think of all the reps you would 237 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: have in a normal off season, it's not a very 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: high amount. You can substract that by significant degree right now, 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: even in a best case scenario moving forward, and they're 240 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: just not going to be a lot of opportunities. So yeah, 241 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: as Joe mentioned, the opportunity for a u DFA to 242 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: make any particular NFL roster is going to be lower 243 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: than normally is when it's already pretty insubstantial, and it's 244 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: going to be a situation where we don't know who 245 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: the next Austin Ekeler is. Obviously, if we did, that 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: player would have been drafted, but there are those guys 247 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: out there, and this may just be a year where 248 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: those guys miss those opportunities and maybe they make it up, 249 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty one, with things presumably are a 250 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: little closer to normal, but those guys might just never 251 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: get those opportunities again. It's really a huge question moving 252 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: forward for all NFL teams. What's all sort of Yeah, Popper, 253 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: I just want to make this one point before you 254 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: jump in, because what I find interesting too is some 255 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: of the guys that they have gotten as undrafted free 256 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: agents had pro days occurred, and how had this draft 257 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: of valuation process been a little more streamlined, have been 258 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: kind of the same as it's been in the past. 259 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Perhaps a guy like Joe Gaziano from Northwestern gets drafted 260 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: into six or seventh round. You know, there's a lot 261 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: of guys that they got, a couple of guys from 262 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Notre Dame that who knows. You know, it's just gonna 263 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see even the back half of 264 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: the draft, six seventh round guys, how they mesh with 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: some of these undrafted free agents who, if it was 266 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a regular off season, may have been drafted. Yeah, and 267 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: with Austin specifically, like, he wasn't really on NFL radars 268 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: until he put up huge numbers at his pro day. 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: He ran a four or for three, and then all 270 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, some NFL teams were like, oh, maybe 271 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: this guy's worth bringing in seeing what he can do. 272 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: You know how many guys at small schools didn't get 273 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: to have their pro days and didn't get to put 274 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: up the big numbers that put themselves on NFL radars 275 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: and now aren't even on rosters. I mean, it's a 276 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: snowball effect. Can go on and on about the ramifications, 277 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: but just what I was gonna say before is another 278 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: thing to consider is you know, typically doing OTAs, is 279 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: that the time when these guys get the opportunities to 280 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: work with some of the actual starters, because that's the 281 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: time when you have, you know, veterans taking time off. 282 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Guys might not show up to certain days. It's a 283 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: little bit more relaxed because it's voluntary. And on those 284 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: days where maybe a couple of veterans are sitting out 285 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: and one guy doesn't show up, all of a sudden, 286 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: there's reps there for these undrafted free agents when you 287 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: get to training camp, and especially at the time when 288 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: there hasn't been any mini camp or anything like. There 289 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: aren't going to be many opportunities for guys lower on 290 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: the roster to get reps because the guys higher up 291 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: on the depth chart are going to need those reps 292 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: to get themselves ready in football shape, you know. So 293 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: that's another it's another missed opportunity. Like I said before, 294 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: you go down the list to snowball effect and everything 295 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: is sort of a knock against the chances of some 296 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: of these guys making NFL teams, which is just highly 297 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: unfortunate because there's some of the best stories in the NFL. 298 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Are these guys that come from nowhere, from small schools, 299 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: and in Austin's case, you know, make the fifty three 300 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: man with one performance in a fourth preseason game and 301 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: end up signing a you know, twenty five million dollars 302 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: contract three years later. It's you know, it's it's unfortunate 303 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: for everyone, for us in the media and for football 304 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: players too. I think for most teams too. The past 305 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: couple of years, the preseason has been a for those 306 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: undrafted guys to get a whole lot of playing time. 307 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I think for most teams this year, I think especially 308 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Depending how many preseason games we have, the 309 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: starters are going to see at least a quarter and 310 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: a half to one half of game action because they 311 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: haven't had that installed time during OTA's in training camp. 312 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: So you know that with game action and film that 313 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: reduces things even further. So it, like everybody is said, 314 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: it is just a snowball effect that really with these 315 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: undrafted guys, I don't think we're going to see impacts 316 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: until somewhat in it a season on the practice squad 317 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: and the chances they get through injury and what they 318 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: show through practice. I remember twenty eleven, Andrew Hawkins signed 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati first weekend of training camp, is an undrafted 320 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: guy and he didn't really get to make his impact 321 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: for the season until he was called to the active 322 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: roster for week four, week five. And I'd think for 323 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the teams that's going to be the 324 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: case this year. Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, 325 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I think all of that are really those are all 326 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: really good points, but the one thing is that every 327 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: team is in the same boat. Every team is dealing 328 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: with this in their own way. Every team signed, whether 329 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, four undrafted free agents to as many 330 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: as you know nineteen twenty as the Chargers did. And 331 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: I think teams are though, trying to figure out how 332 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: to navigate through that, given the fact that they can't 333 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: get these on these guys on the field. And one 334 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: thing that coach linzad a couple of weeks ago that 335 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: stuck out to me is they're testing them. They have 336 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: like pop quizzes, they have football tests. You know, how 337 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: much are you learning about the playbook and how much 338 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: can you then sort of reciprocate that info? And I 339 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: had asked him, I'm like, how can you tell though, 340 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: if like a rookie is engaged in what's being taught? 341 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: And he said, they asked questions. You know, I look 342 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: for them to ask questions. And so obviously, yes, these 343 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: guys need to get on the field. That has to happen, 344 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: but it's impossible currently at this point. So I think 345 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: it's interesting though to hear how this team in general, 346 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure others as well are handling them and 347 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: giving these guys to the tools to attempt to be successful, 348 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: but a lot of it is falling on them. It's 349 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: that personal accountability that if you took you know, online 350 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: classes in college. That was on you. You had to 351 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: be the one to delegate when you were going to study, 352 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: when you were going to work. And I think it's 353 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: interesting though that you know this coaching staff, Coach Lynn 354 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: specifically sided you know, I want them to ask questions 355 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: because that tells me that they're absorbing and they're learning. 356 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: And even if they challenge some of those questions, he said, 357 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: it forces the coaches to look at things from the 358 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: players perspective and they like that ultimately. Jeff, the fact 359 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: that this draft class that the Chargers have maybe has 360 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: a little bit more seasoning than others. And I just 361 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: go down the line. Justin Herbert. We don't know if 362 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: he's going to see the field or not this year, 363 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: but forty two starts, so he has a complete resume 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: at college and hopefully that learning curve speeds up for him. 365 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: You go to Kenneth Murray, who a guy who's you know, 366 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: highly intelligent, who you know I think a lot of 367 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: people expect can pick things up relatively quickly. Joshua Kelly. 368 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: The running back position. We've seen folks at the running 369 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: back position and have early success in the league, and 370 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: think guys like Alloys Gowen was a captain for Notre 371 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Dame MkJ. Hill. You know, Haley talked to Chris Carter, 372 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: he was thinking about coming out last year, and he 373 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl. So the fact that Joe 374 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: Reid's another guy who's a senior, you know, probably the 375 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: best kick returner in the country. The fact that you 376 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: have these guys who have maybe a little bit more seasoning, 377 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe that speeds up the process for the Chargers. Who knows, 378 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: I think it could. I think this time that they're 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: missing is there's no question it's significant. It's interesting to me. 380 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: I saw something this past week. They were talking about 381 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks drafted this year. There's there's some people out 382 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: there who still think Herbert could be the starter Week one, 383 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: which I would find shocking for a variety of reasons, 384 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: not the least of which is, who knows how much 385 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: he's going to even play and be in the system 386 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: before then. Um, the same thing like they have in 387 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Miami with two. I mean, TWA has got the injury situation. 388 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: But on top of that is you know, you know, 389 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: the longer this goes, the less likely these guys are 390 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: that are going to are gonna play any kind of 391 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: significant amount of time, at least the quarterback position. It's 392 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: interesting with the guys you met with the charges like 393 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: there's there's something to that. But a guy like say 394 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: like Joe Reid, who you know, they I think they 395 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: envisioned using a lot of different ways that might take 396 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: a while. He's gonna he's got to get you know, 397 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to get acclimated to the speed of 398 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's gonna have to get ingrained into the 399 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: system what he needs to do if he's gonna be 400 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: doing playing all these different positions. And like Joe said, 401 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: that's a situation where we might not see what Joe 402 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: Reid is going to be until later in the season 403 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: or maybe not even his rookie year, just depending on 404 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: how much he's able to absorb and get in and 405 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: get into the system and kind of develop this. I 406 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: think other guys like Murray, I think he you know, 407 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: he's seems to be a really dynamic athlete. I think 408 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: a player like that probably and can maybe adjust a 409 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: little quicker and can kind of rely on as the 410 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: physical skills and can kind of carry him a little 411 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: more than some of these other positions, maybe the skill position. 412 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Guys who maybe it's a little more of a mental 413 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: game and trying to trying to figure out how to 414 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: how to work against an NFL defense. It's going to 415 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: be tough for some of these a lot of these guys, 416 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think most rookies this year are gonna have there. 417 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: Everybody knows it, and it's just part of it. It's 418 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: just the reality. Every team's in the same boat, but 419 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: they're they're all going to be a little bit behind 420 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: and just a matter of how how quickly they can 421 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: catch up. Hey, I want to go around the horn here, Popper. 422 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: We'll start with you a little fun exercise. Which free 423 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: agent that the Chargers have brought into you think is 424 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: going to have the biggest impact and which rookie that 425 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: was elected in the twenty twenty draft do you think 426 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: we'll have the biggest impact this upcoming season? Just one 427 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: one guy from the free agent class, one guy for 428 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: the rookie class. All right, rookie class. I think it'll 429 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: be Um Kenneth Murray. Um. I see him sliding in 430 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: right away as the starting will linebacker. Um. They love 431 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: what he brings in terms of his athletic Sorry, we 432 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: had he had a had a cat situation I had 433 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: to take care of um so much disrespect. Are you ready? 434 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: Can I continue? You need to be he takes UM. Yeah, 435 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play the most snaps of any rookie. Um. 436 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: And you know they love what he brings as far 437 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: as you know, finally having a sideline to sideline running 438 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: hit linebacker. Um, you know, he's he's the real deal, 439 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: and he's gonnaet an opportunity to play earlier. It's just 440 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: a matter of you know, how how good are his 441 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: coverage skills and you know, can they bring him along 442 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: in that department? Um. You know. As far as free 443 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: agent science, I'm splitting between Harris and Blaga, but I 444 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with Bolaga just because the offensive 445 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: line was such a disaster last season that actually having 446 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: a sturdy tackle, regardless if it's the writer left, is 447 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: going to be a huge added bonus for this offense. 448 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: And I think we'll see the ramifications of that pretty 449 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: much immediately. So I'll go with blog as free agent 450 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: and Kenneth Murray as the rookie Jason, what about you? 451 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Those were gonna be my exact answers because because of 452 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: what Bolaga means, to any offensive line that needs a 453 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: starting offensive tackle, which the Chargers did, and specifically to 454 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: the Chargers because of James Camping coming in as the 455 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: offensive line coach. That's going to ease that transition. If 456 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to choose other options, just so, this isn't 457 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: you know us saying yeah, I was gonna do that too. 458 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: I would say in terms of the rookies, Joe Reid 459 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: because of what he can do on special teams and 460 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: not even just as a return, they might be able 461 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: to use them other ways. As a gunner, and we 462 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: know they lost so much talent on special teams from 463 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: a year ago. That's going to make a difference. And 464 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: if he comes even a semi regular contributor to the offense, 465 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that could be a huge role for a guy that 466 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: was drafted on the third day. Usually do not see 467 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: that as a rookie. Uh. In terms of the other 468 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: free agent free agent acquisitions, I'm actually gonna go Lindvall 469 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: Joseph because of all of the nose tackles that they 470 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: saw walk in free agency this year, and with Brandon 471 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: me By being who excuse me, brand and Mebane being released, 472 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Lindvall Joseph isn't just going to be the new starter. 473 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: He's going to be the true anchor of that defensive line. 474 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: We know how much that matters in Gus Bradley's game. Yeah, 475 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: plus plus a leader across that line. You lose some 476 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: voices in the room. Mebane was a big voice. Lindvall 477 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: can can fill that void as well. Haley, what about you. Yeah, 478 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna go with the Popper Special right there 479 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: with Kenneth Murray and Brian Bulaga. I think Kenneth Murray looked, 480 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: this is a guy they traded a special Popper special, 481 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: It's a guy they traded up for. And I remember 482 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Tom telling me, Tom Tolesco telling me they were so 483 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: impressed with his combine interview and not so sold them 484 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: just on him, and it was one of those of 485 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: a so memorable and we saw what he was able 486 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: to do on the field. I agree. I think he 487 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: could make a definite immediate impact. And then Brian Bologha, 488 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: specifically to Jason's point about James Campin, Talasco said it 489 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: was a focal point of this team to sort of 490 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: rebuild that offensive line and tweak it and basically not 491 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: really don't really make it over but kind of and 492 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: so bringing campin in was huge, and then bringing in 493 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: a guy like Brian Blaga on that right side who 494 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: has that relationship with him. Look, we know that you know, 495 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: there's Pouncy and there's Dan Phoene excuse me, and there 496 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: are other guys who have been on this team and 497 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: on this line. But to have that sort of just 498 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: immediate relationship between coach and player and how that can 499 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: extend out, I think that will be super helpful for 500 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: that unit overall. Good answers. Joe, Ready, what are you 501 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna do? Okay, the nine Kenneth Murray Division as far 502 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: as h top rookie, I'm gonna get I'm gonna go 503 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: with Joshua Kelly. Yeah, Justin Jackson. We don't know what 504 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: he can do, and he's been injury plagued. Well, we 505 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: know what he can do. He just he he's got 506 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: to stay on the field because we he's he's shown 507 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: in in in flashes. I mean in that Pittsburgh game 508 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning of to say the Pittsburgh game. For sure, 509 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: he had me and he had me in Pittsburgh. But 510 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: you're but you're right, Joe, he's got to stay on 511 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you can't stay with the club in 512 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the top of the there there's that thing. And just 513 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: after covering Josh in two years at you see La 514 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: seeing what he can do the between the tackles type 515 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: runner the tough yards. I think we're going to see 516 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more of how he can catch the 517 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. Something we didn't see what 518 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: chips scheme and everything. Uh. As far as free agent signings, 519 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: whoever they sign up left tackle over the next time, 520 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: it is a possibility. But also as far as I mean, 521 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: as far as guys did, I think he should not 522 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: sleep on. As far as free agent signings in that 523 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: position group, do not sleep on Nick Vigil with the 524 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: versatility that he has it outside and as a middle linebacker, 525 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: and that linebacking group it still doesn't have a lot 526 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: of depth to me. But if you can do the 527 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: three starters with Murray, Drew Tranquil and possibly Vigil starting 528 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: there too, I think that makes that position group better. 529 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't put as much pressure on the 530 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: defensive line and a secondary and I think as far 531 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: as the speed that they can have helping out on 532 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and coverage really helps that defense out big time, 533 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: all right, Jeff Miller rookie wise, I mean this LOGI 534 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Gilman is intriguing to me. Just these guys have had 535 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: success with the taking players out of Notre Dame. He 536 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of almost seems like the safety version of Drew 537 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: Tranquil from last year. Right. He kind of has that 538 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: that playmaking special teams kind of. It seems to have 539 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: that kind of on his resume. So I think he's 540 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: a guy who we could see kind of emerge on 541 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: special teams like Tranquil did last season, and especially with 542 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: having what's going to be this sort of shortened uh 543 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, offseason program, training camp, whatever ends up being, 544 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: he's probably going to be more of a special teams player. 545 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: So that's a guy who I would look to and 546 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: now watch my veteran savvy here on the other side. 547 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring it all together, folks. This is how 548 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: you do this. Chris Harris Junior, who undrafted free agent, 549 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: going back to our conversation earlier talking about a guy 550 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: who took advantage of being undrafted back a few years 551 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: ago in Denver, he emerged to become one of the 552 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: best slot corners ever basically in the NFL and I 553 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: think a guy like that if you look at you know, 554 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the free agents they brought in. I'm excited to see 555 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: him play. He by all accounts is you know, we've 556 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: seen him a little bit just you know, when they 557 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: played the Chargers the last couple of seasons for me 558 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: at least, and you know, everybody raves about him. They 559 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: rave about what a good guy is, all the great 560 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: work he does in the community. You know, he's won 561 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of awards for you know, everything from his citizenship 562 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: to his courage and all this stuff. And I think 563 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: he's going to be a great addition to the locker room. 564 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having a chance to talk to 565 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: him on an open locker room situations. I think we 566 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: all are. And he's a veteran voice and he's a 567 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: guy who still can play at a pretty high level. 568 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: I think. So I'm going to be interesting to see 569 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: him and join the secondary room. And I mean that's 570 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: a that's a very deep group and a group that 571 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are are really excited what should 572 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: be and I think they have a chance to be 573 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: among the best in the NFL on the back end, 574 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: no question, what I love about the Chris Harris Junior 575 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: picked Jeff Is. The Chargers were at the bottom of 576 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: the league and taking the ball away last year. So 577 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: if you have a healthy Darwin James next to Chris 578 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: Harris Junior, who former All Pro quarterer. I know he's 579 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: a little bit older, but m and then you uple 580 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: that with with Bosa and Ingram if they could take 581 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: the football away, having a guy like Chris Harris Jr. 582 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: I believe as a luxury when you have a pass 583 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: rush that the Chargers have, it's just a matter of 584 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: staying healthy. And from rookie perspective, I think I think 585 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray and Joshua Kelly are probably the two options. 586 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: You look at it, and I agree with with you, Joe. 587 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: I think Joshua has a real shot to take some 588 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: of those carries that were meant from Melvin Gordon to 589 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: take those and kind of run with it. Because when 590 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: you put Austin Ekeler all over the field, um, you 591 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: know Joshua can really compliment that. And then I do 592 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: believe in in Justin Jackson. It's just a matter him 593 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: staying healthy this year because he didn't miss a start 594 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: at Northwestern, so hopefully it's just kind of tough look 595 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: for justin. Um, guys, final thing, we do our little 596 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: parting shots. Um, let's just go back around, but we'll 597 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: start with Jeff Miller unless there's a cat's situation that 598 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: you need to take care of. You know, Cat's fine, 599 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: she's just she's in here now and she's quiet, she's 600 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: settled down, So we're good. All right, take us home, Jeff, 601 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: your parting shot before we do this again. And I 602 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know why we're gonna do this again. This we're 603 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of slowing down here before camp. Um, so what's 604 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: the topic? Anything we want it's a it's a it's 605 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: a free pass, free pass, yeow, whatever you want to do, 606 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: whatever you want to talk about. Because you missed, you 607 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 1: missed the schedule, you missed the uniforms. We you know 608 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: you were, you were, you had lots of questions about 609 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: the uniforms. So very very subtly insulted by your lack 610 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: of parents podcast. So when a second was there, was 611 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: there a round table about the uniforms? Because I did 612 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was one. Did I miss 613 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: that one? We we we kind of put it all 614 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: together that same week of the draft. Um, I just 615 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: I just together behind my back. It sounds like, no, 616 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: it was. It was as part of the draft. We're 617 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: all getting contacted in the same Twitter DMA, like you're 618 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: never you're never left out, Jeff Miller. Basically, I'm pushing 619 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: you towards your parting shot. I want you to talk 620 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: about the uniforms. Okay, no, actually my parting shot. I 621 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: love this. I love this. Uh you know, it's come 622 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: up a little bit here this week about the last 623 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: week or so about the Chargers and Rams and how 624 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: they may not get along necessarily, you know, just you know, 625 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: their business partners, so there could be some friction there. 626 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: Like I think there there is. I love how the 627 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: Chargers and that um that logo that the Rams have 628 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: that everyone loves so much. I love that the Chargers 629 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: are among the teams that like trot that thing out, 630 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: and I think that teams should. It's it's just an 631 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: awesome it's just an awesome subtle way for the Chargers 632 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: to get a dig in on the Rams. And I 633 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: think this the uniforms. The Chargers won that so convincingly 634 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: over every the rest of the NFL. The Buccaneers were second. 635 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like, but I think the uniforms are great. 636 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have had a great offseason and 637 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the uh, the logo and the uniforms 638 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, talk to everything else we're talking about. 639 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: All Right, I love it, Thank you, Jeff Jill Ready Okay. 640 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Number one props to the Charters social media crew. They 641 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: like being irrelevant and kind of the irreverent, not irrelevant, 642 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: irreverend and they don't like they're not irrelevant, they're irreverent 643 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: and uh and uh kind of sticking at two different 644 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: different people. Even with the uniform announcement, like here's a process, 645 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they look good. However, I have to 646 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: do a version of come on, man, is my parting shot? 647 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh no. We had interviews last week, um, one of 648 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: them being Drew Tranquil. And there is a certain person 649 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: on this panel who would ask at least three or 650 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: four Drew Tranquil questions a week, and act I don't 651 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: even know if the people on then ordered Dame sold on, 652 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: then ordered Dame beat asked for Drew Tranquil questions a 653 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: week among coaches and everything. So we get Drew Tranquil 654 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: and who isn't on the call or the person who 655 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: asked the most Drew Tranquil questions of everyone. So, Daniel, 656 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: come on, man, virtual shots, virtual shots. Let me defend myself. 657 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: First off, I was asking Drew Tranquil questions to Anthony 658 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Lynn because it was relevant because he was taking snaps 659 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: away from Dentel Periment. So I'm defending those questions. Second off, 660 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm working on other stories. I had another interview to 661 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: get to you that, so I left you Tranquil and 662 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: I went interview Joshua Kelly and if you read me, 663 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you know that I put out a feature on him 664 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: last week about how he you know, called the Sean 665 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: Foster every single day for months on end to get 666 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: his spotty cla and it was a good story. So 667 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't regret the decision. This is this is why 668 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: we leave the parting shots wide open. You can talk 669 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: about anything, Haley Elwood. Oh um, I don't even know 670 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: where to go. Just find a way to dig me. 671 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: It's fine. Let's call my beard menacing call me out 672 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: for not asking Drew Tranquil question question. I'm the punching. 673 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: Many of us thought that Popper was the president of 674 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: the Drew Tranquill fan clubs. Did he not play well 675 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: last season, like it was the best rookie of anyone, 676 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: and what let's face it was before its production of 677 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: rookies was not a very good, well producing rookie class. 678 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: But like I said, even when Drew Tranquill was a 679 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: start order Dave junior senior year, I don't know if 680 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: the Drew Tranquill questions average five or six like you 681 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: asked last year. Hey, before train, I'm on the hype train, baby, 682 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: uh data Jeremiah. I talked to him this week and 683 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: he said, no one in the country is talking about 684 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: Drew Schreikwill and he's going to show people what he's 685 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: all about this year. So defected. Daniel Popper's president of 686 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: the fan club. He got in early, and I think 687 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: he may be laughing at everybody wants. Okay, he's not 688 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: president of the fan club, just just good at accurately 689 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: depicting like how good players are. Like that's I'm just like, 690 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm like like doing my job. Well, like sorry, so 691 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: so off the rails, really so off the rails. Um, 692 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: I'll just kind of tie it, tie it up with 693 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: a with a bow here and just try to say, look, 694 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: we've been in this stay at home pattern for over 695 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: sixty going on seventy days, and I think, um, I 696 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: forget who brought it up, but someone brought up you know, 697 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: obviously mini camps would be happening mid next month, and 698 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's going to be interesting. I think 699 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: every time we have these calls, I think I always 700 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: ended with like what happens from here? Where do we 701 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: go from here? But but truly like where do we 702 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: go from here? Because we know that states are opening up, 703 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: but yet the NFL is trying to keep a level 704 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: playing field literally in terms of you know, keeping coaches 705 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: and players at bay for the time being until maybe 706 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: those facilities are able to open and function safely. But 707 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: I just think it's going to be interesting. You know, 708 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: will we see players get on the field at some 709 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: point next month or is it going to be a 710 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: camp situation or just kind of just the overarching questions 711 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: of what happened moving forward, because there are still a 712 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: lot of questions to be answered and ultimately a lot 713 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: of decisions that will affect what happens for this season 714 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: as well. Well. Said Jason, I'm gonna build off of 715 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Hayley's point a little bit. I think there's a big 716 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: disparity between how the NFL and probably more specifically, the 717 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: NFL players, see this season unfolding in terms of whether 718 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: it'll be fans in the stands, the kind of interactions 719 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: that are going to have relative to normal, and what 720 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: the fans themselves think. When the Charges released their preseason 721 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: schedule earlier this week, my mentions were filled people excited 722 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: about the opportunity to go to so if I stay 723 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: for the first time, and maybe so if I stadium 724 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: will be open to fans in the preseason. I don't 725 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: know that isn't going to be true. Nobody knows at 726 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: this point, but the fans are anticipating that it's going 727 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: to be pretty close to normal, and that just does 728 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: not seem to be the case from the eyes of 729 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: the players, the people that we speak to in the NFL. 730 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: Nobody at this point really know. So there's going to 731 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: be a reckoning between the reality of what has to 732 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: happen because of the pandemic and what fans expect at 733 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: some point this offseason, and it may not be pretty 734 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: for those fans. Daniel Pop or you get the last word, buddy, 735 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: all Right, I'm going to keep this focused on the 736 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Chargers instead of on the Chargers media to benefit the 737 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: people listening. I want Chargers info, but so you know, 738 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: like I feel like at the end of the day, 739 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: the team that takes advantage of the situation the best 740 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: is going to come out on top and to have 741 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: the best shot to win a Super Bowl. And that's 742 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: and this is tapping into something Hayley was talking about earlier. 743 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: That's the way the Chargers are approaching as that's the 744 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: way Tom so Let's Go is approaching this. That's why 745 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Lennon's approaching And it's like everyone's in the same 746 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: boat right now. So whoever does this virtual offseason the 747 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: best is going to come out with a pretty distinct advantage. 748 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Whoever is able to implement their offense and do their 749 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: installs and get their rookies along fast enough and potentially 750 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: have an undrafted creation contribute. This is really important right now, 751 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: and it's an opportunity to get a leg up over 752 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: other teams. And I think the Chargers are approaching it correctly. 753 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: And whichever team is able to gain that advantage during 754 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: this time and do this whole thing the best way 755 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: possible is going to have the best shot to win 756 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl next year. Guys, I genuinely love doing 757 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: this and it's again I mentioned this during the round table. 758 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: It's it's hard to do it with six people virtually 759 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: because you can't have the natural like go back and 760 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: forth and actually have a conversation. So I can't wait 761 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 1: for the day that we can do this in person. 762 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: And everybody on this call that joins me does incredible work. 763 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Miller read him at the La Times, Joe Ready Ap, 764 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: Jason hersch Wren Sports Illustrated, Daniel Popper doing a lot 765 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: of big rookie things on the Athletic right now, Andrew 766 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: Tranquil Hype Pieces and yeah, and Drew Tranquil high Pieces 767 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: and uh and of course Helio waited Chargers dot Com. 768 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: So guys, thank you so much for joining us, and uh, 769 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: we'll do this again before camp um and uh. In 770 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: the meantime, read and listen and watch all these people 771 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: on this roundtable. Thanks guys for joining us.