Speaker 1: I am all in.
Speaker 2: Let's kiss you. I am all in with Scott Patterson
Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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Speaker 1: I heart what I heard, ice Cream, I what Else?
Speaker 1: I heart Coleslaw, heart Gilmore Girls, I heart Out. Yeah
Speaker 1: there we go. Uh fire up the fire up the
Speaker 1: legal apartment. We're sending in subpoenas. This is season six,
Speaker 1: episode thirteen, Friday Nights, all right for fighting. I am
Speaker 1: joined by my intrepid crew, the one and only Susanne French,
Speaker 1: the one and only Taras Suit, and the inimitable Amy
Speaker 1: Sugarman Gang. Let's talk about our event on January seventeen
Speaker 1: in Burbank, California, live from the iHeart Radio Theater, which
Speaker 1: actually stoked Johnny Carson's old sound stage. Isn't it's his studio.
Speaker 3: I actually I am very excited about it because I think
Speaker 3: the lineup is amazing. But I also like the secret
Speaker 3: sort of bells and whistles we have that people don't
Speaker 3: know about yet. I kind of revealed it's going to snow,
Speaker 3: but there's.
Speaker 1: Keeping stuff from me too. Write you're not obviously.
Speaker 3: I am, of course, because I want people to like
Speaker 3: realize they're coming in it's not just like what they're
Speaker 3: going to see on stage.
Speaker 2: It's all the things that are going to be in
Speaker 2: the whole theater.
Speaker 3: And the coolest thing is like it's our theater, so
Speaker 3: we can do whatever we want with it.
Speaker 1: One thing I've learned about Amy is that she's got
Speaker 1: some aces up her sleeve at all times.
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 1: There might be a full deck of ass up there.
Speaker 3: And they'll get you know, everyone's going to get the
Speaker 3: photos they want, They're going to get the merged they want,
Speaker 3: They're gonna get all the Gilmore.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be just a just a Wonderland of
Speaker 1: Gilmore celebration. It's gonna be like a Gilmore Amusement park
Speaker 1: with live people.
Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
Speaker 3: I think it would be such a good Christmas gift
Speaker 3: if I got this as a Christmas gift, tickets to
Speaker 3: this show and like either you know, with the DVDs
Speaker 3: or maybe like you know, a Gilmore Girls book or
Speaker 3: right or merge like that would be yeah, an amazing
Speaker 3: Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2: Like a gift whatever.
Speaker 1: Gets you get my uh my phone is filled with
Speaker 1: text messages hit me up for tickets. It's just spilled.
Speaker 1: And that's like I have. I have as many requests
Speaker 1: as there are seats, and I'm like texting the back guys.
Speaker 1: I can't have like everybody in the audience, like my
Speaker 1: friends and family. I can't do that.
Speaker 2: You know, I have the same thing happening right right right.
Speaker 2: It's funny, Like people love this show, they really do.
Speaker 3: And thank you to the people that said nice things
Speaker 3: about the lineup being awesome, because we agree, like we've
Speaker 3: got something for everybody in the guests. And also, I
Speaker 3: will say, your castmates they all said yes, like right away,
Speaker 3: like we sent the emails and within minutes they all
Speaker 3: said yes, like they love you, they love each other,
Speaker 3: and they love the fans.
Speaker 2: It's like, and I was so nice.
Speaker 1: We have so many high powered, highly charged, magnetic personalities
Speaker 1: coming on that we had to book somebody that could
Speaker 1: calm it all down. So we got Sebastian bach quiet
Speaker 1: on assuming Charlyn he's there, you know, so he's going
Speaker 1: to help out balance that out. No, it's very exciting.
Speaker 1: Go to veeps, dot events, backslash, I H and M
Speaker 1: hyphen all hyphen in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure if you want the live ticket, it
Speaker 3: says like to go to the live show, click here,
Speaker 3: and then you have to come here.
Speaker 2: So yes, we're making here. Yeah, we're making you work
Speaker 2: for it a little bit.
Speaker 1: You gotta find it. But that's that's like on the
Speaker 1: IT side, and that's kind of how it came out.
Speaker 1: And Amy, you said you've been talking to him about
Speaker 1: a little bit make it easier.
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, we're gonna and we're going to keep
Speaker 2: giving you little hints of all the surprises that will
Speaker 2: be happening there.
Speaker 3: And oh my gosh, somebody is coming from South Carolina.
Speaker 3: I saw like people are coming from far away.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, now they're going to travel awesome.
Speaker 2: You won't be disappointed. It's actually gonna be.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to meet I can't wait to meet people
Speaker 1: in the meet and greet. I love that stuff. I
Speaker 1: love meeting the fans. It's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go to Dosi's Market because we're
Speaker 2: going to have a Doses market in there.
Speaker 1: I might we might have it out in there. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you there could be raves in there.
Speaker 3: I know Doc's Market is not is prominent in this episode.
Speaker 2: But Taylor's window to the diner.
Speaker 1: Maybe that might go in my number one scene of
Speaker 1: the six seasons. That was the funniest. See how great
Speaker 1: Sally Strothers is. She comes in and just kills it.
Speaker 3: So I also agree there's a scene in this episode
Speaker 3: that might be the best of all six seasons, but
Speaker 3: it's a different scene in this episode, to me, is
Speaker 3: one of the best episodes in the whole series.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you know which one I'm talking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I'm gonna take off the headphones.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna find out this hour.
Speaker 1: I know. Oh really from this episode.
Speaker 2: From this episode, I thought.
Speaker 1: You liked the Preston Sturgis Scorsese John Frankenheimer thing at
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, you love that.
Speaker 3: I love the way Kenny Ortega directs your show, Like
Speaker 3: every time he is involved.
Speaker 2: Episode is amazing. Actually retired.
Speaker 4: I actually went back to like double check it was Kenny,
Speaker 4: because the second I saw that scene, I was like,
Speaker 4: this feels like a Kenny directing scene.
Speaker 2: I did the same thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, wait, who's responsible for this?
Speaker 2: He doesn't really get a enough credit. I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: he doesn't. I'm just like clueless, but like high school
Speaker 2: musical is amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's kind of a big deal.
Speaker 4: Yes, books, hocus Pocus?
Speaker 2: Did he direct Hocus?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You didn't know that. Oh my gosh, I did not.
Speaker 3: I discover things he directed like all the time, and
Speaker 3: I'm always sort of shocked.
Speaker 4: Descendants hocus Pocus worst Descendants.
Speaker 2: That that makes perfect?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, he was fun. He's fun on set. He's
Speaker 1: really yet, he's you know, he's crisp and he's really
Speaker 1: got his act together. His great No, you know, he
Speaker 1: speaks the language of theater, so it's easy to yeah,
Speaker 1: have a have a have a dialogue with him. So
Speaker 1: and he doesn't make you speak terribly fast when you're
Speaker 1: talking to him. So that's relief. What are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: You want to?
Speaker 4: You want to?
Speaker 1: You want to get rocking and rolling?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, so yeah, Tara Tara Tarah, thanks Suzanne's doing
Speaker 2: and does it from her car today? He got a
Speaker 2: work mobile.
Speaker 6: Synopsizing Today, Season six, episode thirteen, Friday Nights all Right
Speaker 6: for Fighting aired on January thirty first, two thousand and six.
Speaker 6: Emily and Richard find out about Christopher paying for Yale
Speaker 6: and don't take it well at all, but they end
Speaker 6: up gathering for Friday night dinner anyways, and it's a
Speaker 6: big fight. Luke and April are spending more time together
Speaker 6: without larele I. Meanwhile, Laurela I decides not to cancel
Speaker 6: everything after postponing the wedding with Luke, and Rory saves
Speaker 6: the Yale Daily News with the help of Logan.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this episode is It was a good episode.
Speaker 2: It is so good.
Speaker 1: So many things to like about it, so many things
Speaker 1: to like about it.
Speaker 2: Especially especially my logan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he was. I said to myself, if I
Speaker 1: had a daughter, I would want her to bring that
Speaker 1: man home with her if.
Speaker 2: He's so redeems himself in this episode.
Speaker 3: And people can fight me on it, but guess what,
Speaker 3: he's twenty years old.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be perfect, and he totally redeems himself.
Speaker 1: In ladies and gentlemen in the audience. We've strapped on
Speaker 1: the gloves. We're fighting for Logan now, so we begin.
Speaker 2: I was a little nervous with the opening, like what
Speaker 2: is she doing? Why is she seeking out? What's going on? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, what do you think of that? What do
Speaker 1: you think of the collision? What do you think of that? Well?
Speaker 2: Forced a little bit not your best body acting, but
Speaker 2: it was it was a little bit like big.
Speaker 1: God, I totally agree with you. I thought it was terrible, Bunny.
Speaker 2: It was not your best. The seem like that.
Speaker 3: That was sort of hard because it was like she's
Speaker 3: trying to be so sneaky and I was kind of nervous.
Speaker 3: And then you're like you don't really know that she's
Speaker 3: so bummed about postponing, and it's just like, oh no.
Speaker 3: And then there's the like you're trying to get up
Speaker 3: and be so sweet. I'm like, he's so sweet, weird, awkward, fake.
Speaker 1: Crash and the thing that she talked to me about
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't even know what the heck
Speaker 1: happened with the bad body acting. And and then I
Speaker 1: supposedly smash her in the nose somehow. Is this that, yes,
Speaker 1: she held her nose or mouth or something, or did.
Speaker 2: You mess that up? Like is that was that part
Speaker 2: of it that you were going to hurt her.
Speaker 1: Nose or did you Actually I'm taking the fifth on this.
Speaker 1: I I do not recall Senator for me pleaded the
Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment on this your.
Speaker 2: Face acting as oscar Worthy, your body acting is like kind.
Speaker 1: Of a body acting. I really just although.
Speaker 2: Your body acting with April was excellent, excellent sort of
Speaker 2: movement and sort of fatheriness this one. Yeah, there's something
Speaker 2: in this episode that I can wait to talk about.
Speaker 1: She's slapping pigs, she's milking cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so random.
Speaker 3: And then like once she tells you what she's doing,
Speaker 3: then I wasn't as sort of irritated by it. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, no, wonder she didn't want to tell them.
Speaker 3: She just got to go to the flower mart, and
Speaker 3: like the wedding's not even.
Speaker 1: Happening, right, exactly right?
Speaker 2: And then you were so you were I actually okay.
Speaker 3: I actually thought, other than your crash, you were better
Speaker 3: acting in this scene than Lauren. For some reason, Lauren
Speaker 3: didn't feel lower liash for a minute. Even a line
Speaker 3: hurts so good, mister Mellen, camp like felt a little forced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I feel like the first scene just didn't I don't know,
Speaker 4: it just got better from there, do.
Speaker 1: You know what I think it was? I think it
Speaker 1: was one of these situations where she probably felt too
Speaker 1: anchored in one place. What I mean and here's the thing.
Speaker 1: When you have that much work to do every single day,
Speaker 1: you get exhausted. Yeah, and then maybe once in a while,
Speaker 1: I just want to plant yourself. I don't want to
Speaker 1: move around. I don't want to do activities. I don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, really, you know, act out this
Speaker 1: scene to its potential, because god darn it, I'm going
Speaker 1: to create all this coverage for myself, create all these
Speaker 1: camera angles, and they're going to have to do close
Speaker 1: ups here and close ups there. Oh interesting, it just
Speaker 1: takes so much longer to do it. So so every
Speaker 1: once in a while, when you're overworked and you're sort
Speaker 1: of dealing with it with your director in the rehearsal phase,
Speaker 1: you go, I feel good here. I just want to
Speaker 1: stand here and deliver. I think this is you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe I.
Speaker 2: Think if I think you're making an interesting call out,
Speaker 2: because I actually think if she was moving around, it
Speaker 2: might have been a little bit more real, because like right, because.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, if she was deflecting, deflecting
Speaker 1: and being nervous, she'd be moving around that room doing things.
Speaker 1: But I think but for whatever reason, you know, that
Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen, and so yeah.
Speaker 2: You were more natural because you were in bed waking up,
Speaker 2: although you were like awake.
Speaker 1: Talking to her and she shot up, right, so she
Speaker 1: was kind of manic moving around and didn't know how
Speaker 1: to really have this conversation and you know, just sort
Speaker 1: of telling me white lies all over the place. Then
Speaker 1: it would have been easier for me to execute a
Speaker 1: body acting maneuver like running into her because she'd be
Speaker 1: a moving target.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're not going to crash into a hole.
Speaker 1: Right, Is the fact that she was stationary made it awkward?
Speaker 2: Right? Because that's less like right, that's a good note,
Speaker 2: Like there's something about the scene that's great and something
Speaker 2: about it that isn't as great.
Speaker 1: I can't remember too static.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's here. I think there's another
Speaker 3: bedroom scene where we see the bathroom, which I have
Speaker 3: some comments on. I think that comes later where we
Speaker 3: really see the full bathroom, which is quite large and beautiful.
Speaker 2: But I have a one criticism of that bathroom later. Okay,
Speaker 2: so now comes my biggest question for you, Scott and
Speaker 2: possibly Suzanne. We go to Libby's Flowers. We're at the
Speaker 2: flower mart. Laura lies in her beanie puffer and Suki's
Speaker 2: in a great floral jacket with a scarf. What's with
Speaker 2: the green tape?
Speaker 1: The green tape on the scarf.
Speaker 2: There was a green tape on the scarf, and Laura
Speaker 2: I has green tape on her white puffer.
Speaker 1: God that says that probably says Sukie on it. That's
Speaker 1: the wardrobe department forgot to take it off, and.
Speaker 2: They got to take it off. Lauren, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: I think it's the the flower market, ah sometimes, but
Speaker 6: sometimes I think it's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 6: I think it's diligence on the part of the prop
Speaker 6: department to make it look like they were actually at
Speaker 6: a flower market.
Speaker 2: That's, oh my gosh, Suzanne.
Speaker 1: Here I am throwing the wardrobe department under the bus
Speaker 1: and they're actually doing extra work to make this believable.
Speaker 2: I for sure thought I was with Scott. This is
Speaker 2: some sort of an error, This is some sort of.
Speaker 3: A green screen they have to have in rehearsals.
Speaker 2: Suzanne, I didn't because they.
Speaker 6: I think if it was, if it was a wardrobe mistake,
Speaker 6: it would be weird that they did it twice, like
Speaker 6: bread on.
Speaker 2: Both exactly.
Speaker 5: Flowers.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't it be green flowers with a logo on
Speaker 1: it FM flower Mark? You know, why can't it be that?
Speaker 1: Then we know for sure what it is exactly.
Speaker 2: It was so true. So who's been to a flower Mark?
Speaker 2: I've never been to a.
Speaker 4: Flower I have, but I don't remember getting like a
Speaker 4: stick or anything.
Speaker 1: Well that's small town Connecticut, you know, That's that's what
Speaker 1: they did. Because people just can randomly walk in. Why
Speaker 1: would you? I guess you have to pay to get.
Speaker 6: In or because they're like they're the wholesale market, so
Speaker 6: you pay like an admission and then you Mike, I
Speaker 6: have a family member who used to do wedding flowers
Speaker 6: and she had a wholesale license, and so it was
Speaker 6: like that kind of thing, like you'd have to show
Speaker 6: that you're I don't I don't know that Suki and
Speaker 6: Laurel I would have had to do it. But they
Speaker 6: charged admissions because you're getting a discounted price, and then
Speaker 6: you have to.
Speaker 2: Reddit agrees that many people were befuddled and felt like
Speaker 2: you and I and Tara did Scott like, oh, there's
Speaker 2: some sort of a error.
Speaker 3: But yet the other half of Reddit is with Suzanne
Speaker 3: and correcting it.
Speaker 2: He's saying it's an entrance to the flower mart. So funny.
Speaker 3: Wow, and thank you Reddit for having a dialogue about
Speaker 3: this exact topic.
Speaker 1: She's got cold feet in the flower marks. She got
Speaker 1: to put some socks on.
Speaker 3: So the green tape was distracting me. But I'm glad
Speaker 3: she told Suki. I couldn't have gone on longer on
Speaker 3: that one either.
Speaker 6: I felt bad for her when she said the wedding's
Speaker 6: been postponed, and Suki immediately launches into oh no, what
Speaker 6: did you do? Like, yeah, she automatically La, she looked
Speaker 6: a little sad about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was That's what I would have said too. Well, no,
Speaker 2: it's not a Sueri.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, her history and stuff I think Suki was
Speaker 4: it was fifty to fifties.
Speaker 2: She was either right or wrong. Kay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's understandable why she said it. But
Speaker 6: I still felt kind of bad for Laura because.
Speaker 2: She don't feel bad for Laura like so many times
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she comes you know, he has a kid,
Speaker 3: Luke has a kid. I felt worse when Suki made
Speaker 3: it about herself.
Speaker 1: For I was just about to say, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this tangent. You know, your friends in pain,
Speaker 1: she's in flames. Helped put her out. She's feeling burned here,
Speaker 1: and let's apply some aloe here instead of talking about
Speaker 1: your the possibilities that Jackson could have an illegitimate kid
Speaker 1: walking around.
Speaker 2: He has a set back.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as an illegitimate kid. There just aren't.
Speaker 1: They're all legitimate.
Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, she really kind of made it about herself,
Speaker 3: and that was sort of like, really, like, I get it,
Speaker 3: that would be your first reaction was like, oh.
Speaker 2: If this happened, elude, could this be everybody?
Speaker 3: Then I actually felt, I don't know what the word
Speaker 3: is when Laura lies like maybe I should not cancel everything,
Speaker 3: and that that was very like I think that was
Speaker 3: very genuine and vulnerable and how I would be too, like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe this is going to work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's starting out, you know, with a
Speaker 1: little bit of I don't know, it's a little tragic,
Speaker 1: it's a.
Speaker 2: Little sad, it's a lot of sad.
Speaker 1: It didn't It didn't hit me until I saw Luke
Speaker 1: and April in the diner through the tailor's window that
Speaker 1: I realized that, you know what, probably not a bad
Speaker 1: ideata post pump. Yeah, I stand now. I understand how
Speaker 1: he's got to get to know his kid. This is priority.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think postponing is the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. Yeah, because it's.
Speaker 3: No different really than Loralai not wanting to set a
Speaker 3: date till she was right with Rory. Yeah, and Luke
Speaker 3: really it hurt him. That hurt him, let's admit it.
Speaker 3: But he went along with it and was supportive. And
Speaker 3: I think she's trying to do the same thing. But
Speaker 3: I don't see how you suddenly have I mean, I
Speaker 3: get it six months away, but still.
Speaker 2: I would probably postpone too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know, her anxiety stems from the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, like she said, he could wake up tomorrow
Speaker 1: and he could wake up at six months and change
Speaker 1: his mind. You know, she's a little anxious about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the right She's anxious.
Speaker 1: She's anxious now. Yeah, tables have turned a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, it's on it. You know, it's just sort
Speaker 1: of how life plays out at times.
Speaker 2: So and she's trying hard to sort of do the right.
Speaker 1: Thing, right right. Yeah, she's muddling through the days.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, trying to.
Speaker 1: Get through the day and do her job and be
Speaker 1: the fiance.
Speaker 2: And she's definitely, Yeah, she's definitely not being you know,
Speaker 2: the word that was in the last episode that you
Speaker 2: were a little shocked was in the last episode, the
Speaker 2: B word. She's not being. Yes, she's not being that
Speaker 2: at all, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like she's even when like the message is on the
Speaker 3: machine and says like, oh, April will be here five
Speaker 3: to eight, so come by after eight, and that could
Speaker 3: have been even more hurtful, But she's trying so hard
Speaker 3: to be understanding and put on a brave face.
Speaker 1: Terrible. The tough position for Lorelei to be in. She's
Speaker 1: got to get to know and be liked by this
Speaker 1: child or there's real trouble in River City. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a you know, you don't you don't marry a person,
Speaker 1: you marry their family. And and that's now his family,
Speaker 1: that's going to be part of her family. So there's
Speaker 1: some trepidation there.
Speaker 2: So great, and you wait a long time to introduce
Speaker 2: that person to your kid, right, like a lot of
Speaker 2: people do, some people don't, and no judgments, but a
Speaker 2: lot of people wait, right, So he's got to get
Speaker 2: to know his kid. Yeah, right, right, he can't be
Speaker 2: throwing so much at her.
Speaker 3: I guess I guess he could because the situation is
Speaker 3: so weird that I guess he could have said, I'm
Speaker 3: getting to know you, and because of this weird circumstance,
Speaker 3: you're sort of immediately also getting to know my fiance.
Speaker 3: But I sort of lean towards the way he's doing
Speaker 3: it is probably maybe the healthier option.
Speaker 1: And you have to take April into consideration one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: because how is that going to affect her? You know,
Speaker 1: she's got to get to know him too, and it's
Speaker 1: going to take some time, and we have she has
Speaker 1: to set the pace for this. It's not really Luke.
Speaker 1: Setting the pace for this is like, what kind of
Speaker 1: frequency are we talking about here? Good point that April
Speaker 1: can handle?
Speaker 2: Good point?
Speaker 1: How often? How much time does she want to spend
Speaker 1: with him? And that's going to depend on how each meeting,
Speaker 1: each of these initial meetings go. Hmm. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to give it time, you know, and then you can
Speaker 1: introduce once you're nice and comfortable. You know, something like
Speaker 1: that can take the year.
Speaker 2: While Yeah, so six months does seem quick.
Speaker 3: To have the wedding and because think about it practically, right,
Speaker 3: So say say they were moving forward with the wedding, Well,
Speaker 3: he's not going to have he's not going to not
Speaker 3: have April there. But it's way too early to suddenly
Speaker 3: be like, come to my wedding and you're in the
Speaker 3: wedding and likes.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. You know, we're having a wedding
Speaker 1: this week and I'm marrying this girl. Why don't you
Speaker 1: come by for cake after? You know?
Speaker 3: Right, It's like there's you know, I actually, first of all,
Speaker 3: I don't hate the storyline.
Speaker 2: And number two, I'm not as mad at Luke as
Speaker 2: others I know right now, I'm not either. I agree.
Speaker 4: It's like you wouldn't want you would want April there,
Speaker 4: but you would want time to get to know her
Speaker 4: if she's attending your wedding.
Speaker 2: Right, you can't be like high, nice to meet you
Speaker 2: want to be the flower girl. It's so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 6: I kind of see it from a different angle, like
Speaker 6: the whole thing makes me feel a certain kind of way,
Speaker 6: Like to me, if she's going to get to know Luke,
Speaker 6: she needs to get to know Luke's life and the
Speaker 6: whole package and Luke and LORELEI go together and correct.
Speaker 6: So I understand that she needs some time and he
Speaker 6: needs something like they need time together as the two
Speaker 6: of them to form a bond. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: I don't agree with him holding Lorelai at arm's length.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, fair saying you can't be.
Speaker 5: Around the kid at all. I just I had a
Speaker 5: hard time with that because she's she's part of.
Speaker 1: The package that you.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want her to come to the diner.
Speaker 6: He didn't say it in so many words at the
Speaker 6: point that we're at now, but he did say, you know,
Speaker 6: she's going to be here from five to eight, so
Speaker 6: I'll see you after a That's right. It wasn't like
Speaker 6: comes to the diary and hang out with us.
Speaker 1: Come on, he give the guy a break. He's got
Speaker 1: to get to know his kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm giving it. I'm giving you the body. He shouldn't.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he shouldn't. I'm saying that she can
Speaker 6: get to know both of them. I'm saying that the
Speaker 6: April can get to know both Luke and Laurlai.
Speaker 3: But doesn't that make it harder on Luke If we're
Speaker 3: really having this conversation, right, Luke's trying to get to
Speaker 3: know her. You add Lorali into the mix. Suddenly Luke's
Speaker 3: concerned about Lorali and what he's doing is facilitating Loralai
Speaker 3: getting to know April.
Speaker 2: He still has to get to know her, like he
Speaker 2: really he doesn't even know she's a reader and all
Speaker 2: these you know, all the things that we're starting to
Speaker 2: learn because think about it.
Speaker 3: Think about like, say, Suzanne, you and I go to
Speaker 3: dinner with my friend. My job is to sort of
Speaker 3: get you to know my friend and instead of focusing
Speaker 3: on so imagine it's a stranger. Basically, I have to
Speaker 3: beat team Luke so far. Like I kind of agree
Speaker 3: with I know everyone's gonna hate. I also don't know
Speaker 3: that I'm that mad at him for sort of not
Speaker 3: telling right away. I hope I would have been different,
Speaker 3: but I'm not furious at him. Yeah, maybe I am
Speaker 3: team Luke.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not mad at him.
Speaker 4: I also I am team Luke. Also that he wants
Speaker 4: to spend time with April without Loralai. I feel like
Speaker 4: that's fair because Lorelai is a part of his life,
Speaker 4: but he needs to learn about his daughter, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, I really agree with that.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, that girl that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that little girl needs a space and the time
Speaker 1: to get to know him, ask him questions. You know.
Speaker 1: That's a deeply personal and very important starting point for
Speaker 1: that relationship to flourish. They have to build a trust.
Speaker 1: They have to start building a relationship and a trust
Speaker 1: with one another. Yeah, And it's delicate, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: fraught with all kinds of complications since you know, he's
Speaker 1: obviously not with uh Anna. So she's gonna you know,
Speaker 1: Anna's gonna feel a certain way when April comes home,
Speaker 1: and April's going to have maybe a little frustration that Anna,
Speaker 1: her own mother didn't bring you know, why, She's gonna
Speaker 1: have all those questions, Mom, why aren't you.
Speaker 2: Guys together totally? Why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 1: He could have been my daddy, you know, and he
Speaker 1: could have been my dad and I really want to
Speaker 1: spend time with.
Speaker 2: Him, And why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell me? Right? Yeah, So there's all
Speaker 1: there are a lot of more is twelve.
Speaker 2: We also have to take into account she's twelve.
Speaker 3: That's not the that's not five, that's not five years old, right,
Speaker 3: that's like a little bit more of.
Speaker 2: An age where like you really need to be like sensitive,
Speaker 2: right that kid, right.
Speaker 1: And because you don't want to throw her off her
Speaker 1: her track. Yeah, and this could spin her out and
Speaker 1: get her off her path totally. So he wants to
Speaker 1: be really really mindful of that and very careful with
Speaker 1: it and very very deliberate about this process. And I
Speaker 1: totally respect it.
Speaker 6: Totally respect And I'm not saying that they shouldn't have
Speaker 6: that just one on one time with each other. I'm
Speaker 6: just saying he shouldn't be acting like lare Light doesn't
Speaker 6: even exist, and it is. It gets I may be
Speaker 6: projecting forward because it's gonna get worse, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: where it starts is in this episode.
Speaker 3: I feel like so far he is being quite sensitive
Speaker 3: to Lorelight, that we really see that in the opening
Speaker 3: scene despite its awkwardness, and look, yes it's a little
Speaker 3: bit of a dagger when he's like, April will be
Speaker 3: here from five to eight, so come to the diner
Speaker 3: after eight. Even though that's rough, he's still saying come
Speaker 3: to the diner, like let me see you, Like, can
Speaker 3: I can't stuf? What can I do?
Speaker 2: Like I don't I'm not He hasn't done anything yet.
Speaker 1: Right right, Hey, I'm I've got to protect my kid.
Speaker 1: I gotta This is delicate, and you know I love you.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, we're solid, Right, we're solid. We were gonna
Speaker 1: get married, but I gotta love my kid now. And
Speaker 1: I've never loved my kid before. So I got it right.
Speaker 1: I got to give her a lot of this love
Speaker 1: that I would be giving you, and I'm still giving
Speaker 1: it to you, but I got I gotta see because
Speaker 1: your heart opens up once you know you have a kid.
Speaker 1: I mean his heart, his heart changed, his capacity for
Speaker 1: love increased because now he has a kid. It's earth chattering.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think you nailed it when you said he's
Speaker 3: very much telling her we're good like he I don't.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had any indication to her that things aren't
Speaker 3: good with her or given her any indication.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 3: He's better solid on that while simultaneously navigating this very
Speaker 3: challenging thing. And how soon she may be forgetting he
Speaker 3: was there for her through the whole rory thing like
Speaker 3: a rock. Probably the reason they're engaged. She owes him
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, And she can't be looking at it
Speaker 1: through a lens. And I'm sure she's sort of feeling
Speaker 1: this way at times, like who's this April? She was
Speaker 1: always very attractive according to Sally, and I mean Anna,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm sorry Anna Nardini and yeah, in
Speaker 1: that scene we find out so.
Speaker 2: That was that was rough.
Speaker 1: Trust your man, he's he's never really has he really
Speaker 1: ever done anything to her? No that would call him
Speaker 1: to question his loyalty and his No.
Speaker 3: But I did think let's talk about that scene because
Speaker 3: we'll go out of order for a second, because I.
Speaker 1: Think that agree with you, I think I so I
Speaker 1: understand there they're trying kind of bombardis with obstacles, and
Speaker 1: Larela is getting triggered and oh my god, a little
Speaker 1: insecure and all that stuff, which is only natural, and
Speaker 1: they're showing that side of her and not showing the
Speaker 1: side where isn't that a lovely moment between father and
Speaker 1: daughter And isn't that a beautiful thing to watch? That
Speaker 1: is a father getting to know his daughter that he
Speaker 1: didn't need to have. That's an extraordinarily touching, delicate moment
Speaker 1: there to the point where the entire town is pressing
Speaker 1: their noses up against the glass. Yep, but they're all
Speaker 1: it's all framed and Oh, what's how's Laura I going
Speaker 1: to react and a local loyal are still going to
Speaker 1: get married. This is secondary compared to what between father
Speaker 1: and John.
Speaker 2: So I didn't see it framed that way.
Speaker 3: I think it was the town being the town, and
Speaker 3: if I lived in a small, tiny town and suddenly
Speaker 3: the main proprietor of the town finds out he's got
Speaker 3: a long lost kid, I too would be pressing my
Speaker 3: nose up against the ice cream shoppy window to see.
Speaker 2: But for the right reasons, for gossipy reasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they just all know so much
Speaker 4: about each other's lives that it didn't seem abnormal. It
Speaker 4: seemed like something they would all do.
Speaker 6: I was looking at it in a very literal but
Speaker 6: also symbolic way that there is a physical wall there
Speaker 6: between Luke and April and Laurel I, and she's interesting
Speaker 6: on outside looking in, and she is sitting there with
Speaker 6: the town, not part of creating a family with Luke
Speaker 6: and April.
Speaker 2: So okay, great, really cool call out. I think the
Speaker 2: thing that was hard for me about that scene, the
Speaker 2: town's behaving, is the way I would expect the town
Speaker 2: to behave.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the gossip can you believe has got
Speaker 3: this kid? And we remember Anna and.
Speaker 2: She was so pretty. Yeah, they're assuming that Lrelai is
Speaker 2: totally in it, immersed in it with Luke by asking
Speaker 2: her all those questions. The painful part for me was
Speaker 2: she doesn't know the answers because she's he hasn't brought
Speaker 2: her in completely.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and she doesn't even know Anna. So the
Speaker 5: town actually knows more than she does.
Speaker 1: Here's another aspect of how they portray this relationship between
Speaker 1: Luke and April. It's like, where, where's the development of
Speaker 1: this relationship? Why is this relationship just simply being used
Speaker 1: as a wedge between Luke and Laurel and I create
Speaker 1: sort of not necessarily negative tensions, but a little bit
Speaker 1: of stress, right because they need the dramatic tension for
Speaker 1: some reason. Why aren't we in close actually having scenes
Speaker 1: with Lucy developing a relationship and developing his character along
Speaker 1: with hers, And how wonderful you know a guy he
Speaker 1: he is becoming So where so you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I think that because that's lacking, and that's not
Speaker 1: there is is why so much vitriol was aimed at
Speaker 1: a point because the audience was trained to see this
Speaker 1: as an obstacle because Lorela I wasn't getting what she wanted,
Speaker 1: and the fans weren't getting the wedding that they wanted,
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth, instead of focusing in
Speaker 1: on this guy who's been there, the solid guy that's
Speaker 1: loved her and you know, through all these phases in
Speaker 1: her life with her and her daughter and her parents
Speaker 1: and all the all the slings and arrows that he
Speaker 1: has suffered over the years, and now he's finally at
Speaker 1: a point and this is being portrayed as something of
Speaker 1: a negative where he's being like this really solid guy
Speaker 1: just found out he has a daughter, and he's doing
Speaker 1: the right thing by her, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think so, I think it was unfair. I
Speaker 1: think it was unfair to my character and to April
Speaker 1: as well. In terms of storytelling, it's like developed that
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think in this episode it's there's not as
Speaker 6: much of that, but coming up in further episodes, there's
Speaker 6: some really good like Luke April development going on. There's
Speaker 6: some really good scenes.
Speaker 3: I think it's a very interesting storyline. Like there's that's
Speaker 3: the thing I love about this episode. Every single storyline
Speaker 3: to me, it's it's Luke April with Lowerli, Logan, Rory
Speaker 3: with a dabble of Paris, but really Rory and Logan
Speaker 3: and then the four core Gilmore's each of them great storylines.
Speaker 3: So let's let's talk about Logan. So Rory is there's
Speaker 3: another bit of sort of physical acting. It wasn't super
Speaker 3: crazy about here. When Rory's with her books and.
Speaker 2: She's the coffee cart.
Speaker 3: Her body acting was kind of the opposite. It was
Speaker 3: like two good like those people are dodging her and
Speaker 3: diving out of the ways.
Speaker 2: It was a little sort of you know whatever.
Speaker 3: But then it was all I erased my dislike of
Speaker 3: that the minute we see Logan and he's like stop
Speaker 3: and he's so cute in the puffer coat and he's
Speaker 3: standing by the coffee cart because he knows that's where
Speaker 3: he'll see her, and she was really cute and the
Speaker 3: interaction was really cute, and they're going to have dinner
Speaker 3: Thursday night at seven thirty.
Speaker 2: And just for me because I like Logan the whole I.
Speaker 6: Have a flag on the waving the coffee cups around,
Speaker 6: like you can clearly.
Speaker 5: Tell that there is no actual liquid in the coffee cups,
Speaker 5: and I noticed in the last step it's empty too.
Speaker 6: When when Logan was doing it, he's he had two
Speaker 6: cuts stacked on top of each other and he's like
Speaker 6: holding him at a forty five degree angle. And then
Speaker 6: Rory was doing it in this episode.
Speaker 5: I'm like, couldn't it.
Speaker 6: Play water in the cups so they had some weight
Speaker 6: so they yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam, when actors roll luggage, I was just going
Speaker 2: to say, it's a weird share a brain.
Speaker 1: What's going on every time I'm roll luggage. If the
Speaker 1: luggage is too light, you know, come on, put something in.
Speaker 4: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: Likes the reason Scott they don't put water in the cups.
Speaker 3: Is it like they just the mess of it or something, or.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's just an oversight. It's it's it's almost
Speaker 1: the actor's responsibility to make sure that it's real and
Speaker 1: that it's the weight of as what it should be
Speaker 1: in real life, because too many times you see that
Speaker 1: and like somebody's drinking a big cup with a from
Speaker 1: a big cup and it's like super light and they're
Speaker 1: waving it around. You can tell there's nothing in it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of silly. So you know, there you go, we.
Speaker 2: Saw it exactly, there you go.
Speaker 3: So his puffer coat, the great puffers in this whole thing, right,
Speaker 3: great puffers. So then we go back and now we
Speaker 3: are back with Anka Mommy's home.
Speaker 1: They agreed she she gonna go out on Tate with him.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, seven thirty Thursday.
Speaker 1: Seven thirty Thursday. So I marked it down on my calendar. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was so excited about it.
Speaker 2: Next to June third. I now I can't unsee June third.
Speaker 1: Somebody in the solidus guest said, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: What do you mean that's you know, Rory's getting back
Speaker 1: together with Logan. I'm excited. Put the calendar.
Speaker 3: Then we go to the house and paul Anka has
Speaker 3: she's in the orange vest again.
Speaker 2: Cute puffer, a lot of puffers.
Speaker 1: Uh ba.
Speaker 2: BET's on the phone. There was a crash in the
Speaker 2: living room. The books are everywhere.
Speaker 1: That Bet on the phone still just like a genius.
Speaker 3: So I think that we sort of had that setup
Speaker 3: so that she's she's listening almost what Scott said earlier.
Speaker 2: She's physically got.
Speaker 3: Something to do while she's listening to the messages. And
Speaker 3: then Richard comes on about the mistake about Yale with
Speaker 3: the check and YadA YadA, And then she calls Rory, Hey,
Speaker 3: it's mom.
Speaker 2: You know you've got your study voice going. We need
Speaker 2: to address this check situation. We got to tell them
Speaker 2: that your dad's paying for Yale.
Speaker 3: I actually thought Loura I came from a surprisingly sort
Speaker 3: of good place with her parents, Like, even though they
Speaker 3: drive her crazy, she has respect for them and the
Speaker 3: relationship and the family and the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Did you think of it as because it's how I
Speaker 4: took it When she got the call from Richard saying
Speaker 4: like the check bounce, do you think.
Speaker 2: She felt the check didn't bounce. I'm sorry they returned it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they returned it because it was already paid for.
Speaker 4: You do you think that she felt like I wish
Speaker 4: my parents were still paying for Yale instead of Christopher.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: No, I think she felt like I got to tell
Speaker 3: them the truth because it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just thought she felt a little bad about it,
Speaker 4: which I did stant she did.
Speaker 1: I think she felt bad that she had to make
Speaker 1: a phone call to her parents.
Speaker 4: Also, like why wouldn't why wouldn't they tell Why wouldn't
Speaker 4: they tell them before like they just thought like.
Speaker 2: It's paid for. I'm sure they sort of did.
Speaker 6: Rory never handled her business, no, no, never, you get
Speaker 6: other people to do her, you know what, for her.
Speaker 6: So I think that's what it was, because Rory should
Speaker 6: have told them not lurlei exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think Loralai feels bad because they're going to
Speaker 3: feel bad. Yeah, it's very counterintuitive, like you'd think that
Speaker 3: somebody would be like, oh, I don't have to pay
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: It's so important to them to pay for school because
Speaker 3: it is their connection to the family, the girls, and
Speaker 3: I think they know there's risk if they're not paying
Speaker 3: that they don't have that connection. And Loralai knows how
Speaker 3: important that is to them, and she acknowledges it. This
Speaker 3: is gonna be rough, like they're not going to be happy.
Speaker 2: They're not happy.
Speaker 6: She knows it's going to be a scene now because
Speaker 6: they're finding out like not they didn't find out up front.
Speaker 2: Well, to me, it's not even that Oh sorry, Scott,
Speaker 2: you no.
Speaker 1: I mean too bad. I mean it's her kid to
Speaker 1: do what she wants. It's her kid. As long as
Speaker 1: college is paid for, it's probably better situation for them anyway,
Speaker 1: because then they're you know, not under the lash and obligated,
Speaker 1: and you know, Richard and Emily are you know, can't
Speaker 1: they be genuinely warm and welcoming and maybe one day
Speaker 1: somebody will want to come to Friday night dinner of
Speaker 1: their own fool, you know exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they wouldn't need Tony to manipulate their family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't think that it sat
Speaker 1: very well on on Richard and Emily this episode. I
Speaker 1: thought it made them look very very very petty.
Speaker 2: Oh see, very good.
Speaker 4: There was one part I have to say, do you
Speaker 4: mind if I jump ahead a little bit?
Speaker 2: Or should I wish? No? Not do it? Okay, There's
Speaker 2: one part that.
Speaker 4: I did agree with Emily when she said when was
Speaker 4: Christopher ever a father to you? Because there was a
Speaker 4: part where she's like, well, I want my dad to
Speaker 4: pay for it. And Emily had a really good point
Speaker 4: like all these years he hadn't been anywhere and suddenly
Speaker 4: like he's your father because he's paying. I actually did
Speaker 4: agree with her on that well.
Speaker 3: And I understand Emily and Richard they want to pay
Speaker 3: for school, they want to like I know that because
Speaker 3: I have that same relationship with my grandparents, like they
Speaker 3: want to pay for school because there's so much significance
Speaker 3: in that my grandparents paid for my college, right, and
Speaker 3: I think they there's something deeper than just the check.
Speaker 2: It's not just the money. Yeah, it's the honor of
Speaker 2: paying for school, which is a weird word. It's the duty.
Speaker 2: It's the giving something to your grandchild forever.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That means so much. So it is heartbreaking in a
Speaker 2: way for them that they are no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means the family's broken up. Their version, their
Speaker 1: vision of a family is broken up. Now, well, there's
Speaker 1: something about a legacy control. Yeah, there's there's something about
Speaker 1: the legacy. I guess that's the right word of grandparents
Speaker 1: paying for college.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: It's not about the check, because they could just give
Speaker 3: her the same money for something else. It's not about that.
Speaker 3: It's saying it's forever. I know that my grandparents paid
Speaker 3: for my education. And then this happened, and this happened,
Speaker 3: and this happened, and this happened all as a result
Speaker 3: of what they did. So even though ooh, it makes
Speaker 3: me want to cry, even though my grandparents aren't here anymore,
Speaker 3: that lives on.
Speaker 2: It's so important, right, and you'll never forget that.
Speaker 1: Here's another aspect that laurl I perhaps didn't think about.
Speaker 1: Would it be more beneficial for Richard and to continue
Speaker 1: to send checks because he's involved now in a real sense,
Speaker 1: using his influence and his power and his relationships at
Speaker 1: Yale to protect Laurie sorry Rory, to to make sure
Speaker 1: she gets the best opportunities and the best professor is
Speaker 1: in the best attention, and then post grad if she
Speaker 1: wants to pursue an advanced degree or get out in
Speaker 1: the job. You know, he's fully invested in every single way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something to what you're saying, and that.
Speaker 1: Should have been taken into consideration. Gris what the hell's
Speaker 1: you know? And yeah, and really is the Christopher decision?
Speaker 1: Now I think about it a little bit. Is it
Speaker 1: really that wise? Because he could blow the money in
Speaker 1: a Vegas weekend or on some crazy business venture and
Speaker 1: it's like I can't pay anymore. There's true because he's
Speaker 1: got a history of it. So it is an odd
Speaker 1: decision in that sense.
Speaker 2: There's truth to what you're saying.
Speaker 3: And what I think about is my parents could have
Speaker 3: paid for my college, right just like Christopher can pay
Speaker 3: for Rory's but there was a deeper something there. Having
Speaker 3: my grandparents pay for all our educations, right.
Speaker 2: My siblings, my cousins. It's more than just the check. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: So I think you're right, You're you're getting into something.
Speaker 2: There's also the fact that Richard went to Yale. There's
Speaker 2: just a lot of significance in it, not just sort
Speaker 2: of like yeah, yeah, there's a lot of deep.
Speaker 1: That guy can pick up a telephone and make things happen.
Speaker 1: He can make he can pick up a telephone and
Speaker 1: make things happen for her, the waysh you know, Logan
Speaker 1: or mitcham Hunsberger cannot or will not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even the connection, like you know when they
Speaker 3: came into the well, I'm skipping ahead, we'll get to it.
Speaker 3: But you know, the they come into the living room
Speaker 3: and he's reading the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost was waiting for Rory to bond over
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 4: Oh I was too. That's so funny.
Speaker 3: Why are they not connecting? And that's what Yale is
Speaker 3: to them. Yeah, it's such a deeper thing than the check.
Speaker 3: It's the connection, which I think is what you're saying, Scott.
Speaker 1: It is it is it's the family legacy, and let's
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's gain theory it out. When Rory
Speaker 1: has her children and they're grown and they're seventeen, they're
Speaker 1: going off to college. And then Richard can you know,
Speaker 1: he maybe he's still around and he wants to help,
Speaker 1: and there.
Speaker 2: Go or Christopher. So that to me is when Christopher,
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 1: If you're a gambling woman, I mean, if and you're
Speaker 1: playing the odds, you're sticking with Richard.
Speaker 3: But you know what Christopher could have done. I'm so
Speaker 3: say that, say that.
Speaker 2: We understood and Rory understood more the importance of Emily
Speaker 2: and Richard paying for school. Christopher could have said, Okay,
Speaker 2: your grandparents are paying for your school. I'm going to
Speaker 2: set up now a trust fund with this money so
Speaker 2: your children's college. And that's what he should have done too.
Speaker 3: That that is family, that is legacy, That is doing
Speaker 3: something for your kid.
Speaker 2: That's beyond So I don't know, I have.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, not enough detail there. So Christopher could
Speaker 1: have put it in an account college account and that
Speaker 1: it would all been paid for lockstock and barrel, no
Speaker 1: questions asked.
Speaker 2: And then it goes down.
Speaker 1: You go off and start a casino and.
Speaker 3: Right, and it's right, the money's safe, secure, it's done, it's.
Speaker 1: Right right, and he can go blow the rest was what? Right?
Speaker 3: So okay, so let's switch to uh Logan, Paris, Rory,
Speaker 3: the paper, all that mess. What do y'all think in
Speaker 3: general about the Paris paper situation?
Speaker 4: I mean, Paris is always over the top, but this
Speaker 4: really was over the top. But I don't know what
Speaker 4: it is. It's I think she's the only character that
Speaker 4: for me can pull it off being that annoying. And
Speaker 4: I still enjoy watching.
Speaker 1: Her, you know, she I was really grooving on her
Speaker 1: character there a little bit for a couple of seasons,
Speaker 1: now appreciating it, getting the chuckles. But this is like
Speaker 1: now she's back to being like committed to an institution.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed her.
Speaker 1: This is this is like crazy, this is insanity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I only love it because of what
Speaker 2: it brought out in Rory and Logan. Ye, so to me,
Speaker 2: it's a means to an end.
Speaker 1: But like shes no, she has no business leading anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, she needs to be in therapy to unhinged
Speaker 1: someone abusive.
Speaker 3: And she would never let the paper go to print
Speaker 3: with a photo missing. So that was like not even
Speaker 3: that was insane.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what she cares way too much about the paper?
Speaker 1: Are going to are we going to find out? Uh,
Speaker 1: don't tell me what it is, but if we're going
Speaker 1: to find out, something some earthquake happened in her life
Speaker 1: in ensuing episodes to justify this behavior, because this is
Speaker 1: just so off the chain, She's a mess.
Speaker 2: That being said, the habs did make me well.
Speaker 1: You had that character say that he wanted to do
Speaker 1: to her what people did.
Speaker 2: The Mussolini Is that Bill about Bill? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No. The kid that was sitting there with the
Speaker 1: yo yo said I not only I don't only want
Speaker 1: to kill her, I want to drag her body through
Speaker 1: an hand terrible right to Mussolini here, And I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: that is a very strong statement. That's almost as bad
Speaker 1: as the biomedical itch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about her weird beautiful mind cubicle? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: my god, it was.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 4: Was beautiful.
Speaker 1: She's like you know she's that was Ted's Ted Kaczynski tear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like very she's scaring me so and
Speaker 2: then there were ear muffs.
Speaker 3: And the thing that I do love about it, like
Speaker 3: I said, is it just brings out the best in Rory,
Speaker 3: and you see like Rory's thriving again, and then it
Speaker 3: levels up Logan Logan coming in.
Speaker 2: First of all, I know we're skipping that. Let's just
Speaker 2: play through.
Speaker 3: This because this episode has so much to talk about.
Speaker 3: First of all, his smile acting. Oh my god, I
Speaker 3: die had to watch it three.
Speaker 1: That would fall in the category face act.
Speaker 2: Face acting exactly.
Speaker 1: So the scene now you're creating categories for eyes.
Speaker 2: And he comes into the paper exactly reacting. This is
Speaker 2: this is ear acting, I acting chin acting.
Speaker 3: So he comes into the paper, she realizes she forgot
Speaker 3: her date, but he's so cute and there to help
Speaker 3: and sort of why didn't you call me?
Speaker 2: But before that, he's just listening to her.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah lah lah, and he's just got
Speaker 3: this smile and he sort of touches his face like
Speaker 3: his chin or his nose, so cute, like everything about him.
Speaker 2: I just was like, swoon, swoon.
Speaker 3: And then he really contributes, so I was just like, yes,
Speaker 3: I'm so in.
Speaker 4: The one thing I it made me cringe a little
Speaker 4: bit was when he made the phone call, like when
Speaker 4: the paper was late and he was stalling and he
Speaker 4: was just like it only made me cringe because he's
Speaker 4: like so entitled and he's like, oh yeah, my father,
Speaker 4: like you know that.
Speaker 2: But he knew it would work. He knew it would work.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know why. It just bugs me about it.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind.
Speaker 3: Did you guys see Danny Putty in there by the way,
Speaker 3: you know, the actor Danny Putty, he was in the
Speaker 3: He's he's gone on to do a lot, uh that
Speaker 3: show with.
Speaker 2: Joel McHale and Chevy Chase. Anyway, I'm sure we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it either.
Speaker 1: Way, Tara. He was just trying to impress Rory. Yep,
Speaker 1: that was that was a move to get his girl back. Really, yes,
Speaker 1: really he had to be the hero and carry it
Speaker 1: through and he just played the dad card and it.
Speaker 2: Worked and to save the he got the kiss from
Speaker 2: the girl.
Speaker 4: Also, it was so not realistic the way he was
Speaker 4: talling and she's like typing like one letter at a time, Like, was.
Speaker 1: Was anything realistic in that scene?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: None of It's got an insane human being that needs
Speaker 1: to be taken away in a in a van, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, in restraints, you know. And then so there
Speaker 1: was really you know, the stage was set for unreality.
Speaker 4: He's like, and then you open your computer and then
Speaker 4: you go And she's like just looking at Logans was
Speaker 4: pressing like one button at the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, she's not getting anything done.
Speaker 3: Where did he get those sandwiches? All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: there's two break Deli sandwiches coming out of the bag.
Speaker 1: And two glasses and a bottle of wine.
Speaker 2: I love everything.
Speaker 1: In Sugarman parlance.
Speaker 2: He's baller, totally totally baller.
Speaker 4: So cute.
Speaker 1: That was a great scene.
Speaker 2: That was love.
Speaker 1: That was a great interaction between the great coming together.
Speaker 1: Enjoy him. He's just the guy's magic. I love I
Speaker 1: love mere Man. He's just lights up and then he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He just light up the scenes. Yes, charming, Yes gone.
Speaker 3: He lights up the scene and he brings out in her.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's Rory or Alexis.
Speaker 2: I don't know, a light and energy the scenes like,
Speaker 2: there's just not that. I don't love her.
Speaker 3: Scene in the in the cool cafeteria dining hall room
Speaker 3: where I thought we're gonna dress crazy and she says,
Speaker 3: I'm going to dinner with Logan tonight and Laura's talking
Speaker 3: about I talked to your grandparents.
Speaker 2: We're going to dinner. It's a great scene, but there's
Speaker 2: something you canize.
Speaker 1: The chemistry between them. You can read it's electric. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can feel it. And when he pulls her close
Speaker 1: to him, you can really feel the sexual It's real.
Speaker 3: I will say on a note, just because you know,
Speaker 3: we've got a lot to cover still, that scene where
Speaker 3: Lorelai and Ry are in the dining hall and she
Speaker 3: talks about that they had just moved from Hertford and
Speaker 3: they are at the inn and she got the invite
Speaker 3: to the annual Christmas party and she didn't go, and
Speaker 3: she acknowledges it should have gone.
Speaker 2: Everything could have been different, and I thought, wow, very
Speaker 2: quick little mention, but what a powerful thing.
Speaker 3: And she's sort of writing that by saying, I know
Speaker 3: you don't want to go, but we're going.
Speaker 2: We're going.
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