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Speaker 1: Ron An aian.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a car out there that can't be fixed.

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Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time. It's a matter of

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Speaker 2: If you can't fix that vehicle, maybe somebody doesn't want it.

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Speaker 2: go talk to John and Virginia eleven Jeep Liberty and

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Speaker 2: running hot. John. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, thank you, thank you for taking my call. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what it is is, I've never seen anything like this before.

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Speaker 3: I've been driving cars for forty years. But I have

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Speaker 3: a Jeep Liberty like two times two days in the

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Speaker 3: last three months. One day in January and like about

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Speaker 3: two weeks ago. It was about eighty degrees. The car

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Speaker 3: would run fine until I had a really warm day.

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Speaker 3: The first one, as I said, was in January, the

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Speaker 3: car wouldn't. After driving around like running some errands for

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Speaker 3: ten minutes, the car decided it was just going to

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Speaker 3: run terrible. Wouldn't go over forty miles an hour. Anymore.

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Speaker 3: It was running hot. It wasn't showing it on the gauge,

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Speaker 2: What makes it What makes you think it was running? John? John?

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Speaker 2: What makes you think it was running hot if it

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Speaker 3: I was, well, I was getting gas. I was standing

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Speaker 3: outside the car, and it was I could smell that

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Speaker 3: that this happened, but like I said, it was like

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Speaker 3: actually months apart, and then the next day it's like

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Speaker 3: nothing happened in the car ran fine, but it was

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Speaker 3: you know, it was like fifty degrees or something. Well,

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Speaker 3: I talked to four different shops. Nobody can tell me

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Speaker 3: what this is. I'm getting is I'm getting told, well,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to just wait till it happens again

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Speaker 3: and then bring it in. Then do I really have

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Speaker 2: Or well, let's let's back up a second. So you're

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Speaker 2: you're getting an intense sensation of heat would be a

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Speaker 2: fair way to say it. Like it was running like

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it was I had it running too, and

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Speaker 3: it was running hot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 2: to say that it was running hot. If the gauge

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, based on what based on you know,

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Speaker 2: and measure temperature to say, okay, it's running hot. But

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Speaker 3: It Well, I actually smell. I don't know what it

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was like like oil burning, but

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Speaker 3: I don't have any idea what it was I was smelling,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, John, are you sure you're not smelling

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Speaker 3: Well? No, I don't have any leaks.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking. I'm not asking if you have any leaks.

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Speaker 2: You know, a small a small loss of oil out

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Speaker 2: It's going to hit the exhaust or hit the exhaust

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Speaker 2: but it will. It will give the sensation of hot

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Speaker 2: or heat or smell or something. All right, if an

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Speaker 2: engine is physically running hot, you're going to see it

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Speaker 2: talk about why would it overheat in hot weather? Well,

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Speaker 2: because it's warm out. Because the shops aren't wrong, they

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Speaker 2: need to see it to duplicate the condition. I could

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Speaker 2: the afternoon and talk about all possible scenarios. But what

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Speaker 2: All right, Now, the engine running badly, the trans not shifting,

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Speaker 2: into limp mode. Limp mode is an occurrence on that

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Speaker 2: and it won't allow the trans to shift properly. It

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Speaker 2: won't allow it to accelerate, it won't go over forty

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Speaker 2: what that sounds like. I've got to say that the

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Speaker 2: the baseline it. Do we have any fault codes in it?

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Speaker 2: I don't care if the lights on or not. I

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Speaker 3: They've been having trouble. Two places have been having trouble

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Speaker 3: getting a reading. What do you mean for some reason

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Speaker 3: they used, you know, the code reader, but they weren't

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Speaker 2: Are you saying that it doesn't set fault codes?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Well maybe I'm maybe I'm not thinking of the

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we're talking about plugging into the diagnostic port

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Speaker 2: under the dashboard to the side of the steering wheel, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had I had like two places do that, and

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Speaker 2: Okay, So just for giggles, how about we put a

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Speaker 2: fault in it? If if I've got a vehicle that

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Speaker 2: create a fault. How do you know when something's bad

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Speaker 2: by breaking it? Right? If I unplug a throttle position

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Speaker 2: sensor or an oxygen sensor or some such component, and

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Speaker 2: I go and scan that vehicle, and I still don't

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Speaker 2: get a fault code for that particular component, that tells

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: So why don't we start there? Why don't we you know?

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Speaker 2: And why are we using two different repair shops? Do

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, he said he couldn't get a reading with

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Speaker 3: Even the last guy I saw it was actually a

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Speaker 3: he was telling me the same thing. Three other people were.

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Speaker 3: I just can't figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well here, back, yeah, here, let's let's let's do this. John,

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Speaker 2: pick one guy, all right, explain our conversation. Let them

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Speaker 2: let them create a fault pay them for an hour

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Speaker 2: of their time. This is the guy that's going to

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Speaker 2: fix the vehicle when the problem returns. Let them create

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Speaker 2: a fault, all right, They unplug the accelerator pedal position

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Speaker 2: sensor and it sets an accelerator pedal position fault. We've

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Speaker 2: now proven that vehicle is capable of diagnosing itself and

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Speaker 2: its faults and failures. Agreed, Yeah, okay, plug it back in.

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Speaker 2: Clear the code, make sure all the fluid levels are correct.

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Speaker 2: Look the vehicle over. Make sure the radiator is not

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Speaker 2: leaking when it's cold, and they'll know to do this.

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Speaker 3: I check that it's not leaking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when when it's cold, and they can get the

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Speaker 2: radiator cap off the bottle if they can look inside

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Speaker 2: the radiator over. Look over the radiator for general leaks

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Speaker 2: and seeps. Does it show any signs of cool and

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Speaker 2: staining at the seams? All right? Drive the vehicle. Warm

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Speaker 2: weather's coming. You're going to find out within the next

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Speaker 2: six weeks. It's that simple, right.

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Speaker 3: I just I just thought it was odd. I kind

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Speaker 3: of just I didn't really necessarily want to be driving

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Speaker 3: it around and then it you know, gets stranded. But well,

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Speaker 3: that's what I have to do well, let me, let

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Speaker 2: How many miles around the vehicle?

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Speaker 5: John fifty eight thousand, okay, fifty.

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Speaker 2: Eight thousand, Only fifty eight thousand. It's not a lot

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Speaker 2: of miles. So all you can do at this point,

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Speaker 2: it is twelve years old. All you can do at

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Speaker 2: this point is baseline it, check all the fluids, look

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Speaker 2: it over for mechanical soundness, scan it, create a fault.

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Speaker 2: It sets the fault. Great, it doesn't set a fault,

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Speaker 2: why not? And then proceed from there. That's all you

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Speaker 2: can do. It's twelve years old. You're looking for guarantees

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Speaker 2: where you're not going to find any.

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Speaker 3: Not to be harsh, right right, you know, and that's

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Speaker 3: generally something like this. The mechanic really wouldn't be able

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Speaker 2: Walter Walter P. Chrysler, Walter P. Chrysler wouldn't be able

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Speaker 2: to determine what's wrong with that vehicle in its present state.

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Speaker 2: And that's the technology of vehicles today. Somebody may guess

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Speaker 2: and get it right right, and that's all possible. But

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Speaker 2: the key here is, first of all, one guy, one

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Speaker 2: guy making the salad, all right, and follow procedure. There's

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Speaker 2: always a reason there's always a way, all right, kiddo.

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Speaker 2: I gotta run him up against the clock. But you

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Speaker 2: do that, you go through procedure, you follow those things.

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Speaker 2: You give me a call back with the results and

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Speaker 2: I'll guide you accordingly. John, I appreciate you being there.

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Speaker 2: A five to five, five six zero nine nine zero

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Speaker 2: zero run an eighty of the car Doctor coming back

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Speaker 2: right after this. Don't go away. It's he drives that way.

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Speaker 6: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car

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Speaker 6: advice done right.

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Speaker 2: Eight five to five, five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: Here's Ron. Hey, let's go on over and talk to

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Sam and ILLINOISO three Toyota at the

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Speaker 2: com Sam. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can

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Speaker 2: I help?

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Speaker 5: Ron, Sure appreciate having me on there.

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Speaker 5: I got a three to edit Tacoma. I've had it

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Speaker 2: Just broken in and.

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Speaker 5: Well there's a little yeah, it's broken in, but let

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Speaker 2: Okay. So when they made the swamp, you know, I hate,

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Speaker 2: I hate when these things go on, because right right,

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Speaker 5: the original exhaust system, I guess it's her. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: but you know the front catalytic converter right next to

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Speaker 5: So the other guy and the cat This catalytic convert

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Speaker 5: it's I don't I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 5: it's not a catalytic converter. Okay, it's a look it's

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Speaker 5: So now I only have one muffler in the front,

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Speaker 5: So that's that's all that system has with two oxygen sensors,

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like we're missing cats.

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Speaker 5: Right right, I mean originally right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you go in and scan for codes,

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Speaker 5: Well the guy did it with a year make a model,

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Speaker 2: I would want to do this as OBD two because

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Speaker 2: It's just going to be generic codes. I'd be curious.

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Speaker 2: I'd be thinking, I'm thinking that you're going to see faults. See,

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Speaker 2: the problem here is when they swapped the engine and

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Speaker 2: you didn't have the problem before, and we do. Now

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Speaker 2: what what did they unearthed by changing catalytic converters? You know?

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Speaker 2: which is tedious and it'll drive you right piece.

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Speaker 5: And that was my next question here, right, So I

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Speaker 5: I don't know, right, but it's not the original one

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Speaker 5: in there. So my next question was, with that V

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Speaker 5: Because I can't call Toyota. They keep asking me for

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Speaker 5: ven numbers, right, not. I can't give them a V

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Speaker 2: You'd have to find You'd have to find the H

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Speaker 2: three to coma with a V six, okay, and use

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Speaker 2: because that's the only way you're going. That's the only

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Speaker 5: Right now? This is six six?

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is two different year V six is okay?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this was it was before it was the two

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Speaker 2: Right, automatic, are still the stick?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: No, it's automatic four by four?

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Speaker 2: Right? So this is this is a real Frankenstein.

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Speaker 7: Right, this is.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a real cross cross breed of something.

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Speaker 5: And I got yeah, and I got taken on it.

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Speaker 5: Well that's okay, just keep moving on here, right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: that's right, all right, or or talk to for that matter,

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Speaker 2: if you know, depending upon if the PCM is even

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: If it's not then, you know, do you just gamble

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Speaker 2: I've got a V six Toyota with this engine. Can

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Speaker 5: But I have a board number. I got a board number,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the part numbers, the part number is going

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Speaker 2: AutoZone can look it up by application. Neither here nor there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they've got a PCM that will match that particular vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Because let's think of it like this. We both know

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Speaker 2: got bigger air intake is surely going to have different

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Speaker 2: the catalytic inverter sensors would look like in data stream,

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Speaker 2: and maybe you want to go there as well. I'm

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Speaker 2: run an Ady in the Car Doctor. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: right after this. Thanks Sam, I appreciate the call. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome back, run An any of the Car Doctor. Did

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Speaker 2: when you see what's coming this week, And kudos to

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Speaker 2: Tom's uh going north. I think Tom's going to be

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Speaker 6: We're going to see the eclipse. Well, and as a

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Speaker 2: Uh the rocket? Yeah? Well that was so. I would

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I was sitting I was actually

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Speaker 6: So, uh, while I was on a I eighty four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just just crazy.

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Speaker 6: And you know, she told me she shut it down,

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Speaker 2: It was like, wow, Oh, I'm thinking, how big can

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: If we're not here next week to do the show,

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Speaker 2: then the eclipse is pretty bad. So everybody should enjoy

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Speaker 2: never know. Let's go to Joe, Tom, Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Joe and Virginia. Oh seven Cadillac Escalade. So Joe, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Thank you for on. First time listener, long, long

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Brother?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Miss siron engine was running it smooth and been

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Speaker 4: excitted to hear some knocking noise driving down the road

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Speaker 4: and became.

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Speaker 8: More current.

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Speaker 4: You know, first it was intermittent that it became full

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Speaker 4: so I finally pulled it over and ran codes on.

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Speaker 4: It was a three oh one and it stayed three

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Speaker 4: to oh one for several days. At high rpm, like

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Speaker 4: for forty five hundred, it would smooth out, but at

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Speaker 4: low RPMs it would sputter and RPMs would fluctuate up

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Speaker 4: at this point, and the RPMs just go up again. Also,

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Speaker 4: the engine light.

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Speaker 2: Well the stability lights. Stability lights coming on because it

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Speaker 2: sees faults in the engine controller. All right, yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's, that's that all right. I guess you're

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Speaker 2: I guess you're at work today. Huh huh, Joe.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like soundid yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like work in the background or you're shopping. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So you know the answer here is, you know what's

439
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: common or are we suffering an engine failure or are

440
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: we suffering true ignition component failure or an injector problem,

441
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: et cetera. This is uh, this is the seven escalate,

442
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: So this is the six point two leader. This is

443
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: the big motor. Great, All right, are you handy with

444
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: a vault meter?

445
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

446
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go to Let me ask the question

447
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: this way. Have you had any engine mounts done recently?

448
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 3: No?

449
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: All right? Ground one oh two left side driver's side

450
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: of the engine, left side motor mount. Ground one oh

451
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: two is critical, critical and common cause of misfires on

452
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: these engines. It gets loose, it gets corroded. It's kind

453
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: of hard to see.

454
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 4: Uh.

455
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're gonna either find it by taking

456
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: the driver's side wheel well out and looking in and

457
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: seeing the motor mountain, seeing the ground strap attached there,

458
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 2: or you're going to do a resistance check from the

459
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: coil connector down to ground one or two to make

460
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: sure it's got good continuity to engine ground. You're gonna

461
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: voltage drop ground from the connector to the coil pack itself. Over.

462
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: I want to look at you know, because we could

463
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: go through the you know, move coils around routine. I'm

464
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: sure you're familiar with this, you know, Yeah, it's right

465
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: and it's still there, so you know, I just yeah, nothing,

466
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: no change, you know, before we go move in the injector,

467
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: which is a little bit of work, Let's just go

468
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: do some voltage testing. That pink white wire is battery voltage?

469
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: All right? That's that's coil hot. Remember back in the

470
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: old days. Uh, you know, we had coil negative and

471
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: coil hot, we had coil positive. Does that Does that

472
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: pink white show battery voltage or charging system voltage when

473
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: the vehicle is misfiring? All right? Uh?

474
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: You know that's off off a.

475
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: Coming into the coming into the main bank. There should

476
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: be a main plug or you're going to find it

477
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: individually at each coil do we have Do we have

478
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: hot at that pink white on the cylinders that are misfiring?

479
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: All right? Okay, all right, If we have battery voltage

480
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: there and we have ground at one oh two, then

481
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm fairly confident we've got an adequate voltage supply to

482
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: fire the coil. If we don't, then we've got to

483
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: trace that back. What I'm trying to eliminate is these

484
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: had some problems with fuse boxes. The main fuse box

485
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: under the hood. It would crack and it would do

486
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: erratic things. So you know this is a let's look

487
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: at a wiring diagram. But I happen to know that

488
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: that pink white and the ground G one O two

489
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: or comments. Let's just verify that it's a five minute test. Hey,

490
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: the engine's misfiring. I've got charging system voltage, it's off,

491
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: it's you know, tell me what's good. I'll tell you

492
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: what's bad. It's off the table right right, So that

493
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: that just eliminates that. Next, you know, can we just

494
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: look at engine vacuum even though I know it's going

495
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: to be lousy. Can we just come up with a number?

496
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

497
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, let's just look at manifold vacuum. Where are we?

498
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: All right? And let's just verify. Are you familiar with

499
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: Yoda scan tool?

500
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: Joe?

501
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, Okay, go out to go look up

502
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 2: I want you. I'm gonna make you an expert. Go

503
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: look up atgtraining dot com I believe is the website.

504
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: Or go look up Automotive Training Group and go read

505
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: that the tab they'll talk there about volumetric efficiency. All right,

506
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: take a breath, Joe, breathe in right now? How well

507
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: do you breathe? Okay, it's it's like it's like it's

508
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: like when the doctor puts the stethoscope on your chest

509
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: and says, take a deep breath. I mean, it's all

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: you can do is take a deep breath.

511
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: Right.

512
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna measure how well can the

513
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: engine breathe. Volumetric efficiency is a breathing test. If the

514
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: engine passes, it's not mechanical. If the engine doesn't pass,

515
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: it's mechanical, and it's unobtrusive testing. It'll take us. It'll

516
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: tell us either we're taking something apart or we're not,

517
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: and we have to look elsewhere, all right, And all

518
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: you need is a scan tool, the ability to read

519
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 2: mass airflow and grams per second, which you can do

520
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: under OBD two. You need, you need intake air temp,

521
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: you need RPM. That's it. That's all you need. And

522
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: then you just plug it into their calculator at Automotive

523
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: Training group and it does the math for you. It'll

524
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: it'll tell you what percentage you're in. But they also

525
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: give you a nice little explanation about what VE testing is. Now.

526
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: One caution. You want to do this on a good vehicle.

527
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: You got another vehicle on the household.

528
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, a Honda.

529
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. They all engines. Breathe, brother, they're all

530
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: the physics are the same, right, So I want you

531
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 2: to do it on a good vehicle because I don't

532
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: want you to learn on I don't want you to

533
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 2: learn how to do something on a broken vehicle. If

534
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: you learn how to do something on a broken vehicle,

535
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: you don't know if you're doing the testing wrong or

536
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: the vehicle is actually broken and telling you the truth.

537
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: So recognize what good looks like, you'll recognize what bad

538
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: looks like.

539
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: Capeche Yeah, yeah, okay, that's just just just on the OBT, just.

540
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: A you don't even have no, you don't even you

541
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: don't even have to use your make model. You can

542
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: do volumetric efficiency testing OBD two data mass airflow, RPM,

543
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: intake air temp. You need to know a barometric pressure,

544
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: which is really difficult. You know how you figure out

545
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: barometric pressure?

546
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: Uh, look at the weather channel?

547
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: Well that or do you know where you live? You

548
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: type in the name of your hometown and you type

549
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: in you know, Joe's Joe's house dot com uh Virginia

550
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: and tell me barometric pressure. Boom, It tells you you

551
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: plug in barrow RPM, mass airflow, intake air, do a

552
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: ve test, you come back in the ninety percent tile. Hey,

553
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: the engine breeds good off the table next. It's as

554
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: simple as that, all right, and then we can have

555
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: a further conversation.

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Okay, where I can tell it up there and you

557
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: can check it out whatever you.

558
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: Want to do. Joe, you got you got. You gotta

559
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: get permission with the guards. Don't let down the guards,

560
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: don't let drop the druwbridge at the shop until I

561
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: tell them to. So it's uh, it's just it's a secret.

562
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: You know. Somebody told me I'm harder to find than

563
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: the bat cave. I said, well, there's a reason for that.

564
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: But in any event, all right, Joe, I'm always glad

565
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: to talk to you anytime.

566
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 4: Thank you.

567
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. Good luck eight five five five

568
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. Well, it's the truth.

569
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: Batman has to wear the cape and the mask. Sometimes

570
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Tom's gonna make a mask comment. I'll be back right

571
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: after this.

572
00:28:47,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 7: Don't go away, welcome.

573
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: Back, or name the card doctor. Let's wander down to

574
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Florida and talk to Gary. Gary, welcome to the card doctor, sir,

575
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: how can I help?

576
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: Thank you?

577
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Ron?

578
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 8: I got a two, I got a two thousand and

579
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 8: one Volksweg and d I one point nine annual transmission.

580
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 8: And that's a factor in this. The voltage regulator is

581
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 8: bad and that's all been confirmed. Not the alternator, the regulator.

582
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 8: The regulator that was on it was not the original

583
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 8: OE one. So I don't want to go by that

584
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 8: part number on it because I don't believe it was correct.

585
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 8: My dilemma is I cannot I cannot source what I

586
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 8: can concretely believe is the correct BOSH part number for

587
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 8: this one hundred and twenty alternator. Every part number I

588
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 8: look up when they cross reference one, you know, it's

589
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 8: like going down the rabbit hole and it just leads

590
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 8: to more confusion.

591
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say this about BOSH. They make a

592
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: lot and their information as far as part number cross

593
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: reference shouldn't be believed. For lack of a better way

594
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: to say it. You know, I've learned from time I

595
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: look it up more by application than I do by

596
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: cross reference, or I'll look it up by on Volkswagen.

597
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: I'll do chassis number, then number, something that will identify

598
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: what that vehicle originally came with. Because I've run into this,

599
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: I've run into exactly what you're talking about. You'll take

600
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: that part number, you'll put it into the system and

601
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: it'll cross reference back to everything. But with the part

602
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: that you think it is correct? Correct, Yeah, and it

603
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. And you're sitting there and

604
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: you're saying, well, wait a minute, it's supposed to be this,

605
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: but they're telling me it's that. But that looks totally

606
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: different than what I have in my hand, And yeah,

607
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: I get it. I would look it up by application.

608
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: I actually use a website. Have you seen FCP euro

609
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: f C P E E U r O f CP

610
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: euro dot com. I think it is, you know, they

611
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: they do a pretty fair job of looking things up

612
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: by application. But I've I've learned that you you've really

613
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: got to do it by application, not by part number.

614
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: On volkswagons, Heck, the Volkswagen dealer looks it up by application,

615
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: all right.

616
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 8: Your website is as inconsistent as bosses.

617
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Right. I can't tell you how many times I've been

618
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: to the VW dealer. You know, I put the hose

619
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: in their hands. Here's the hose I need. Here's the

620
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: part number on the hose. Yeah, that number doesn't mean

621
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: anything anymore. That number's gone. Well great, I'm glad we've

622
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: got this car, you know, like, but again, you know

623
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: this is this is what we get. You know. It's

624
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 2: if any if this was easy, anybody could do it,

625
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, so I would. I would. I would do

626
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: this strictly by application, and I think that'll lead you

627
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: to the promised Land.

628
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 8: All right, brother, okay, okay, thank you very much.

629
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Listen how you make out? If you

630
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: need more of them? Here? Hey five five five six

631
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. The car Doctor's cruising back

632
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: right after this.

633
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 7: Don't go away.

634
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: And run, we will because let's do this last call.

635
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: Run and any of the car Doctor here Richard in Virginia, Sir,

636
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 2: you're my last one this hour. How can I help you?

637
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 9: Good afternoon around, Thank you. I have an four trail

638
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 9: Blazer that I purchased new.

639
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: Back then.

640
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 9: I've got about two hundred and sixty thousand miles on

641
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 9: it right now. It's the inline sixth with automatic four

642
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 9: wheel drive, driving down the road about fifty mile an hour,

643
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 9: I lost all power to the wheels. The engine still run,

644
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 9: it had no power to the wheels in regular drive

645
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 9: or four wheel drive. And that's basically what has happened

646
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 9: to it. It kind of acted like you had a

647
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 9: in a position for towing the neutral With everything I

648
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 9: did check, like the transmission fluid without the vehicle running,

649
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 9: it's probably about and a couple of inches above the

650
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 9: full mark.

651
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be done with the engine. It's

652
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: got to be done with you. It's got to be

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: done with the engine running. So let's so let's just

654
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: get that out of your head.

655
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I was checking it with it off right

656
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 9: to say where it was. It was about two inches

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Speaker 9: above the full mark. And then with the vehicle running,

658
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Speaker 9: I checked it and it stayed its about the same

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Speaker 9: about the same location. The fluid never changed. So that's

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Speaker 9: where I am. I have basically done about anything I

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Speaker 9: know to do to it, you know myself.

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00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Right, And the vehicle still does not move.

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00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 9: Correct, It will not move at all, no, sir, all right.

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Speaker 2: So i'd like it to I'd like to just do

665
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: a code scan before we start disconnecting things that I'm

666
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: going to tell you about in a minute. I just

667
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: like to you know, listen, the doctor always does heart

668
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: rate and blood for should before he does anything to you, right,

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Speaker 2: I just I'd like to have I'd like to have

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Speaker 2: numbers to fall back on. You know, Hey, we put

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: a transmission in it. We didn't have these codes before,

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00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: and now we have these codes. It's related to the transmission. Hey,

673
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: we had these codes before we did the transmission, and

674
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: now we don't have the codes. Great, we fix something.

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's the theory holds water. So I'd just

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00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: like to do a code scan just as a preliminary.

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00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: It's a good it's a pre good pre diagnostic test

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Speaker 2: to get in the habit of doing.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 2: Right, next, crawl under the truck on the list listen

681
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: to me, because the clock's going to take me on

682
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: the passenger side of the transmission. There's an electrical connector disconnected.

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00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: Disconnect it and see if the truck moves, does it

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00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: go reverse, first, second drive, et cetera. If it does not,

685
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Speaker 2: this sounds like this has an internal transphlt that the

686
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: trans failed. Is there something electrically putting this trans in neutral?

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00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: If it's disconnected and it doesn't, that trans has failed

688
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: in all likelihoods, so you get it checked out further,

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Speaker 2: but go from there. I'm on an ending in the

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Speaker 2: card Docker. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless see y

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Speaker 2: sis