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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hunday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter.

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Speaker 2: Glad to be with you because we got plenty, we

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Speaker 2: got Texans ogs, we got men behind the mics, we

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Speaker 2: got a little in the lab.

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Speaker 1: We got Nico Collins.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna join us in the next segment, because we're

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Speaker 2: gonna start off this segment with Nick Caserio, Executi vice

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Speaker 2: president Football Option, general manager of your Houston Texans Mark

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Speaker 2: and I caught up with him, get his thoughts about

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Speaker 2: pretty much everything, but obviously that scouting report. That's what

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Speaker 2: I look forward to against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Joining us now in Texans Radio, it's general manager and

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Speaker 4: executive vice president of football Operations, Nick Assario.

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Speaker 5: Nick, how's it going good, gents? How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 4: To see you today? Well, it's week three, getting ready

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Speaker 4: for Jacksonville. But putting the Colts game in the rearview mirror.

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Speaker 4: What are some of the things you saw in the

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Speaker 4: second half as the offense started to really come alive

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Speaker 4: there that encourage you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, move the football.

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Speaker 6: I mean it was a one score game there in

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Speaker 6: a second quarter, and then by halftime it got away

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Speaker 6: from us a little bit, but able to shrink some

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Speaker 6: drives together offensive leader in the second half, We're able

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Speaker 6: to get some stops. I think we played a little

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Speaker 6: bit more complimentary football, get some stops on defense, got

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Speaker 6: the ball back to the offense. We're able to get

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Speaker 6: the ball in the end zone a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: Let's say the.

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Speaker 6: Game in the end came down a situational football. They

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Speaker 6: were better in the red area. They were four or

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Speaker 6: four in the red area. I think we were one

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Speaker 6: to four or whatever. It was, so between a red area.

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Speaker 6: The turnover was kind of a big plane of games

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Speaker 6: because it was backed up. So but I mean there

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Speaker 6: was certainly some encouraging signs. We just got to try

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Speaker 6: to string it together from start to finish. We'll have

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Speaker 6: another opportunity here this week against a really good team.

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Speaker 2: Nick deladdagees, Oh, the passing game needs time because you

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Speaker 2: got to get the rhythm and all that down. I

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Speaker 2: feel like the rhythm was really there with CJ throwing

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Speaker 2: to the receivers. What's kind of brought that along further

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Speaker 2: than maybe we all expected.

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Speaker 5: I'd say, just a.

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Speaker 6: Lot of work, a lot of time spent together. The

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Speaker 6: relationship between the quarterback and the skill players obviously is important,

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Speaker 6: but there's a lot of nuances that go into it.

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Speaker 6: It's not just what happens in practice. You might practice

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Speaker 6: a play however it goes, you execute it, don't execute it,

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Speaker 6: maybe get a different look. Then you spend some time individually,

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Speaker 6: maybe working on a specific aspect of that play.

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Speaker 5: So there's a timing element, there's a work element.

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Speaker 6: You're trying to seize the receiver, the tight end, the

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Speaker 6: back seeing the same thing that the quarterback is seen,

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Speaker 6: and the communicates from the quarterback here's what I'm seeing

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Speaker 6: on the play. So all of that it just takes time.

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Speaker 6: It takes a lot of dialogue, it takes a lot

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Speaker 6: of work. So it is a credit to players, the

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Speaker 6: credit to the coaches for getting to that point. You know,

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Speaker 6: especially early in the season with a new quarterback and

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Speaker 4: Well, you have that execution in the second half of

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Speaker 4: that game. In particular, how does that affect game planning

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Speaker 4: as you move forward here? Because you look at I

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Speaker 4: know you want to run the football, and that hasn't

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say better than you wanted, but

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Speaker 4: it is really looking good. So how does that affect things?

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Speaker 3: Nick?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, each week's going to be different.

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Speaker 6: We've probably ended up throwing the ball more than we

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Speaker 6: would like just because of the circumstances of the game.

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Speaker 6: So sometimes the game dictates maybe the direction that you

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Speaker 5: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: Thirty runs, thirty passes, twenty five, thirty passes, x number run,

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Speaker 6: So it's where are you in the game, what's going

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Speaker 6: what's the mode?

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Speaker 5: Who's the opponent?

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Speaker 6: I would say this week against Jacksonville, I mean this

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Speaker 6: in the end, you're just trying to figure out ways

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Speaker 6: this early on. Typically declare itself after the first quarter,

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Speaker 7: Nick.

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Speaker 2: I know there were a few sacks giving up, But overall,

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Speaker 2: when you went back and you watched the offensive line play,

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Speaker 2: how did you feel like that group played against the Coat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, collectively, as a group, I mean, there was definitely

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Speaker 6: more good than bad. You know, Josh scooted out to

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Speaker 6: kind of where they were a week one and George's

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Speaker 6: There was you know, some plays you know, we would

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Speaker 6: that gets isolated, but everybody's involved in that. The tight

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Speaker 6: So but overall, I mean they held up against a

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Speaker 6: to be the most taxed. So there's always a lot

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Speaker 4: What about running the football better though, what does that

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Speaker 4: week to week because I know there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: Yeah really, and you know we talked about this, Tamiko

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Speaker 6: went through this with the team. It's about assignment and execution.

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Speaker 6: It's about dispersing the blockers and allocating the blockers according

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Speaker 6: where you're supposed to go. So we don't have plays

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Speaker 6: runs designed where you're going to have a free defender

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Speaker 6: corrections we can make are just about us just blocking

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Speaker 6: when we did that, we were able to execute some

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Speaker 5: When we didn't, it just made a little bit harder

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Speaker 2: Nick on the other side of the ball stopping the run.

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Speaker 2: Zach Boss had a pretty solid day. You go back

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if the exact numbers were, but

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Speaker 2: it felt like his yards after first contact we're pretty substantial.

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Speaker 2: How big an issue was tackling and is that going

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Speaker 2: to be an even bigger issue going against Travis Etn

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we could certainly tackle better and just

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Speaker 6: making sure it's a little bit similar but different, but

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Speaker 6: just positioning, make sure defensively we're in the right spots.

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Speaker 6: If the call says you're supposed to be in this spot,

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Speaker 6: then you have to make sure you're in the right spot.

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Speaker 6: So Dimico did a great job of kind of talking

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Speaker 4: During training camp, during the off season, we always talk

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Speaker 4: about depth, and you always talk about in the offseason

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Speaker 4: ninety man roster and then it becomes almost a seventy

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Speaker 4: now with all the injuries. Can you talk about that

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Speaker 4: and how you keep things replenished as far as roster possibilities.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you try to prepare for every situation or circumstance

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Speaker 6: and you just try to build the depth of your

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Speaker 6: you think if they're put in a position they have

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Speaker 6: with them in that particular role. We've had some over

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Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks, some players internally that we've

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Speaker 6: maybe a bigger role than we thought.

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Speaker 5: DHC went in there, Houston Carson.

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Speaker 6: We signed them probably more to help us in a

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Speaker 6: to play a little bit more defensively. And I think

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Speaker 6: his experience just being in the NFL seven eight years,

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Speaker 6: playing a lot of football. But each week you have

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Speaker 2: All right behind us, let's look ahead. It's Jacksonville. They're

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Speaker 2: their flavor of the month. They were the division winners.

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Speaker 2: Wanted one to start put up point nine this past week,

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Speaker 2: but one week one against the Colts. Let's get this

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Speaker 2: sound Scott and Report for the Jacksonville Jaguars this week.

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Speaker 6: Nick, Yeah, I mean, look, a really good football team

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Speaker 6: top to bottom. Doug's done a great job of kind

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Speaker 6: started slowly last year. I think they were three and

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Speaker 6: It was, so good football team, well coached, a lot

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Speaker 6: of good players. I think it's interesting when you look

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Speaker 6: at their team. They have I don't want to say

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Speaker 6: the whole team essentially returning, but it's the whole team

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Speaker 6: so they've done there. They're well coached. They got a

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Speaker 6: lot of really good players, experienced players, some good young players.

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Speaker 6: You know, offensively, they think their skill Probably collectively, this

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Speaker 6: group of skilled players is probably one of the better

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Speaker 6: one we're going to face this season. Essentially, they swapped

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Speaker 6: Ridley for Marvin Jones. You know, Calvin's even though he's

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Speaker 6: looks like he's still the same Ridley that he was

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Speaker 5: So really good group of skill players.

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Speaker 6: Really an eleven personnel team, you know, with Ridley Christian

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Speaker 6: Kirk and say Jones, you know, and they use agnew

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Speaker 6: and then Ingram is really he's a tight end, but

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Speaker 6: he's really a receiver, probably as good of a tight

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Speaker 6: And you mentioned it John Etn, I mean kind of understated,

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Speaker 6: but guy had eleven hundred yards last year or whatever

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Speaker 6: he's fast, and he's explosive. I think that's the one

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Speaker 6: word I would attribute to their offense. They're explosive and

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Speaker 6: they're fast, and Trevor continues to improve in the offensive line.

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Speaker 6: That Cam suspended the first number of games here, so

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Speaker 6: they had to use Walker, but Walker's been in the program.

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Speaker 6: But this is a good football team. They played physical,

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, it's year three for him, number one overall

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Speaker 6: Versus Absolutely, you look at everything and you know certain

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Speaker 6: So, and there's always circumstances that are going to dictate

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Speaker 2: Nick, I'm fascinated earlier you're talking about them being an

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's eleven, it's ten, it's ten and a half. However,

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Speaker 4: Nick, I know you try out guys every week every

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Speaker 6: No, absolutely, Mark, It's something I would say most teams

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Speaker 5: And we're very fortunate that we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: Nick I saw on Tuesday morning might be a little odd.

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Speaker 2: It to have an additional league where you can see

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Speaker 6: Sure, a lot of times a player just needs to

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Speaker 4: Did you sign guys from NFL Europe back in the

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Speaker 5: Germany or Germany.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so it's kind of just basically go over

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Speaker 5: It was just kind of the same idea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that Kurt Warner story, they made a movie

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Speaker 6: So David's career when you God rest his soul, when

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Speaker 5: So there's so many things that go into it, so

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Speaker 6: Don't want to necessarily eliminate anybody, but you also kind

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Speaker 2: Nick a different kind of vain. But we haven't seen

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Speaker 6: do in practice, so be available, go out there and

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Speaker 6: execute your assignment in practice, and build confidence in your

442
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Speaker 6: teammates and build confidence and everybody else around you. And

443
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Speaker 6: then when you go on the field, if you have

444
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Speaker 6: an opportunity, you know, see if you can take advantage

445
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Speaker 6: of those. So I'd say we have some players that

446
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 6: have missed time for a married of reasons, so there

447
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 6: may be have an opportunity to play a little bit

448
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Speaker 6: more so, can they establish a consistent level of performance

449
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Speaker 6: on a going forward basis?

450
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Speaker 4: Nick, when we go to Jacksonville, we like to go

451
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Speaker 4: to a place we've nicknamed Strip Mall Ribs, So you're

452
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Speaker 4: invited to come with us. But you mentioned not doing

453
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Speaker 4: much in Germany. Is there a favorite place for you

454
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Speaker 4: to go ever when you're on the road anywhere in

455
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Speaker 4: this league?

456
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,719
Speaker 5: Just city?

457
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, trying to think if I have a favorite.

458
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Speaker 5: It's really it's so business oriented.

459
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Speaker 6: You know, it's get on the plane, get off the bus,

460
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Speaker 6: go to the hotel, meet.

461
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Speaker 3: You know.

462
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Speaker 6: I like to do a lot of college maybe football

463
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Speaker 6: work over the weekend, so necessarily watch a game, but

464
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Speaker 6: maybe catch up on some of the reports. So I

465
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Speaker 6: don't think I'm gallivanting around when I've we've been around.

466
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Speaker 4: We don't gallivan. By the way, you go to the strip, mall, yeah,

467
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 4: get strip, you're invited.

468
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Speaker 2: All right, that's quite I don't know if that's quite gallivanting,

469
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: but it's close.

470
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Speaker 4: They've got a lot of screens. We're watching all the games. Okay,

471
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 4: we got to get to the most important thing.

472
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Speaker 2: And I thought about this as I asked the XFL question,

473
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Speaker 2: what were your thoughts about the Rocks showing up in

474
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Speaker 2: Denver at WWE. I, as you all know, I'm a

475
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Speaker 2: big fan of wrestling and a big fan of the Rocks.

476
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Speaker 6: So it sounds like they had quite a crew out

477
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Speaker 6: there in Boulder the other day for college game day.

478
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Speaker 2: And I'm not a big fan of wrestling, but when

479
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Speaker 2: they played his music and they said, you know, can

480
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Speaker 2: you smell like the place?

481
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Speaker 6: Erupted Rocks personalities and actually all kidding aside he's.

482
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Speaker 5: Very accomplished away from wrestling, Like.

483
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Speaker 6: He's had a period where he's involved in some tequila brands.

484
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Speaker 5: He's obviously had a movie career.

485
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Speaker 6: I mean, The Rock is kind of a brand in

486
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Speaker 6: and of itself, and he's had tremendou success. So I

487
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 6: think sometimes people get caught up in wrestling for what

488
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Speaker 6: it is, but there's a lot of talented people outside

489
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Speaker 6: of that sphere that go on and have done some

490
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Speaker 6: really great things, and The Rock is certainly one of

491
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Speaker 6: those folks.

492
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Speaker 4: So Casario Tequila, Is that what you're telling me?

493
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Speaker 7: No?

494
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Speaker 4: Okay, Nick, thanks a lot for joining us.

495
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Speaker 5: Good luck, Thanks guys, all right, great.

496
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Speaker 2: Stuff from Nick Casio Executi, vice president football ops and

497
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Speaker 2: general manager of your Houston Texans. Mark it is Jaguars

498
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Speaker 2: we because he was going through the Jaguars. I found

499
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Speaker 2: it interesting because CJ. Stroud met with the media today.

500
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Speaker 2: He gave a very similar scouting report to what Nick did.

501
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Speaker 2: Like he knew every guy by name and number. It

502
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Speaker 2: was pretty impressive. I don't think I've ever listened to

503
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Speaker 2: a player do that the way CJ. Stroud did. So

504
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: he gave the scouting report as well. How you feeling

505
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Speaker 2: about the Jacks.

506
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Speaker 4: Full disclosure that the Nick interview was up on YouTube

507
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Speaker 4: prior to this airing, so CJ might have watched it.

508
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good report. Now cjnew CJ does his work.

509
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Speaker 4: This is what we've heard about him coming in and

510
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: we're seeing it now. He does the homework. He's a

511
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 4: smart dude. He knows what he's doing. I really enjoyed

512
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Speaker 4: watching him play in the second half. I am really

513
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Speaker 4: excited to watch what happens at Jacksonville with this passing

514
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: game and see how the coaching staff adjusts to not

515
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Speaker 4: being able to run the ball well the first couple

516
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Speaker 4: of weeks. How are they going to handle that? Are

517
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Speaker 4: they going to throw to get into the run? Are

518
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Speaker 4: they going to change things up? That's why I asked

519
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Speaker 4: that question of Nick and of Demiko Ryans on Monday,

520
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Speaker 4: which was do you not change the offense? But I

521
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Speaker 4: wanted to get into changing the play calling. But if

522
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Speaker 4: you ask them about play calling, they're not going to

523
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Speaker 4: like that question. But just sort of change the game

524
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Speaker 4: planning around it. Johnny, do you try to throw a

525
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Speaker 4: little bit more to get into the run because you

526
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Speaker 4: know you're throwing it pretty well, you know CJ's a

527
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Speaker 4: weapon anyway, and how do you use them earlier more effectively.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great question, and I asked

529
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Speaker 2: the question to Miko about identity of do you want

530
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Speaker 2: your team to be physical? I think all thirty two

531
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Speaker 2: teams want their teams to be physical. No, No, we

532
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Speaker 2: want to be kind of softest tissue paper. We'll win

533
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Speaker 2: games that way.

534
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Speaker 1: No.

535
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Speaker 2: I think everybody wants to be physical, and I think

536
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Speaker 2: that's what you want the identity of your team to be.

537
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: Like when you face the Texans, you know, buckle up, sparky,

538
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Speaker 2: because it's gonna be it's gonna be a rough day.

539
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Speaker 2: But the fact that CJ can throw it the way

540
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Speaker 2: that he can, the moxie he's shown, you know, fighting

541
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Speaker 2: through the shoulder injury and throwing for three D four.

542
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Speaker 2: The top number in the NFL in Week two is

543
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Speaker 2: and you know, I've seen some people. It's very clear

544
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Speaker 2: and has been very clear. I can look at social

545
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Speaker 2: media and go, you didn't watch the game. And I'm

546
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Speaker 2: not talking I'm talking media people. I'm talking people that

547
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Speaker 2: respond on to it. You can tell, oh, he got

548
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Speaker 2: that in garbage time. He's against a bunch of backups,

549
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Speaker 2: go back and watch all that and tell me there's

550
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Speaker 2: one backup on the field. That's because they were getting

551
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Speaker 2: shack lended rest. Everybody else was all starters. And he

552
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Speaker 2: had done that from the beginning of the game. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 2: not the beginning of the game, but after they took

554
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Speaker 2: a fourteen nothing to lead the second series of the

555
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Speaker 2: game on he was dealing. He was dealing. I'll give

556
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Speaker 2: you you know. I went back, I watched the game

557
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Speaker 2: last night. I have thoughts, but you know a play

558
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Speaker 2: that could have broken everything wide open. I'm gonna tell

559
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Speaker 2: you this right now, and I'm gonna say a very

560
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Speaker 2: bold statement. Dallas Flowers may have saved that.

561
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Speaker 1: Game for the Colts. So remember the throw.

562
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Speaker 2: We were going from south to north, so we were

563
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Speaker 2: going on you know on your radio dial, right the left.

564
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz had started on the right side of the formation,

565
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Speaker 2: and he ran an over route to the other side

566
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Speaker 2: towards our sideline, and CJ lofted one over there, and

567
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Speaker 2: it looked like Dalton was going to have a big gain,

568
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Speaker 2: and out of nowhere, Dallas Flowers came up and knocked

569
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Speaker 2: it away.

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Speaker 3: Remember that.

571
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Speaker 2: Flowers had no business being there none. Flowers was in

572
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Speaker 2: man coverage on Tank Dell, who was running a short

573
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Speaker 2: ind pretty astom and for some reason Flowers happened to

574
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Speaker 2: see CJ looking at Schultz. He leaves Tank and goes

575
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Speaker 2: up and somehow accelerates and gets up in near enough

576
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Speaker 2: to knock it away. It should have been about a

577
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: thirty five to forty yard game because it's there's nobody.

578
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Speaker 2: There's nobody over there. All Schultz has got to do

579
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Speaker 2: is clear the ball gets over to him. There's no

580
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Speaker 2: All there is is the middle of field safety.

581
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Speaker 4: And it's still very much a game.

582
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Speaker 8: At this point. It's fourteen to seven.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you make that catch, you go down, who

584
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Speaker 2: knows what you do with it. It's at the start

585
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Speaker 2: of the second quarter. And the thing about it was

586
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Speaker 2: you had just had a ten yard run. It was

587
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Speaker 2: the first time he really had hit anything with the

588
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Speaker 2: run game. So you hit that ten yard run, then

589
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: you hit that throw and Mark he should have never

590
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Speaker 2: been there. You hit that, Schultz gets down inside. I

591
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Speaker 2: don't know' say he gets down outside of the thirty.

592
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Speaker 2: It's at least points. It's at least points that you

593
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Speaker 2: could have put it. Say it's fourteen to ten at

594
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Speaker 2: that point, could have changed the whole ball game just

595
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Speaker 2: that alone.

596
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Speaker 4: Last week we talked about the fact that Stroud, from

597
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Speaker 4: the first time he does something to the second to

598
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Speaker 4: the third gets better. So this is gonna be the

599
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Speaker 4: third regular season game for CJ. Stratt, right, and I

600
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Speaker 4: want to see if he gets better from there, because,

601
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Speaker 4: like I said earlier in the game, want to see

602
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Speaker 4: that explosiveness. And I know there were some opportunities. Look

603
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Speaker 4: when you cut the lead to fourteen to seven, Okay,

604
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: you're down seven, make a stop, get the ball back,

605
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: like you said, maybe you're able to get something generated,

606
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Speaker 4: and they didn't. So I want to see that happen

607
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: this week with CJ.

608
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Speaker 8: Stroud.

609
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Speaker 4: You're back on the road, you're on grass in Jacksonville.

610
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Speaker 4: Let's let it rip the Jags, you know, the old

611
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Speaker 4: They're going to be mad because they lost. They're going

612
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 4: to be mad because they're playing the Texans and they've

613
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Speaker 4: lost to them since twenty seventeen. And this is a

614
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Speaker 4: new group. And yeah, the Texans have had success against

615
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Speaker 4: the Jaguars. This is the first time they're playing the

616
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Speaker 4: Jaguars since they had their second half run last year

617
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Speaker 4: and everybody anointed them as the team to be in

618
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Speaker 4: the AFC South for good reason.

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Speaker 8: I get it.

620
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Speaker 4: But here you are with your shot at them.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

622
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think that's the way you got to

623
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Speaker 2: go in there. I think they're what is it as

624
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 2: of today? They are nine point underdogs the Texans? Uh

625
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: in this one?

626
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Speaker 7: Wow?

627
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, I man's no respect. I'm going to the

628
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: locker room right now. Excuse me, not.

629
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Speaker 2: A half sorry half, not in a hook, no respect,

630
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: no respect. Get in there, Johnny Dangerfield. Yeah, let him know.

631
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Speaker 2: I mean I would think our guys know. I think

632
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: one of the things that came out of that game

633
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: mark that I just I know this. When when people

634
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: hear me say this, they're gonna think, hopefully we'll make

635
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: every thing twice because they know. I went and I

636
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: watched the game, and I watched it pretty closely. The

637
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: offensive line was not the massive, oh my god, five

638
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Speaker 2: alarm fire.

639
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Speaker 9: That everybody thought it was.

640
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Speaker 4: All right, So when you watched it closely, picked it

641
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 4: apart with your surgical eyes and tools, you noticed that

642
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: the old line didn't do quite as bad as reviews

643
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Speaker 4: would indicate.

644
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Speaker 3: Interesting.

645
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, there are a couple of blocks they blew,

646
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of sacks. They they gave up,

647
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: they got physically beat one on one. You know, it

648
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: was tough seeing Jacob Martin get a sack, but you know,

649
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: either way, but you know, that's a pretty goodretty good

650
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Russian group over there, and you do it forty seven times,

651
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: that doesn't count the six sacks. Now, a couple of

652
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: those sacks. A couple of those sacks came because they

653
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: had free runners. They had really good blitz calls.

654
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 10: On.

655
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Speaker 2: There was one blitz that was it's a read blitz,

656
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: so they bring up both linebackers, and the linebackers read

657
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: the center, so if the center turns to you, you drop,

658
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: and the other the other guy blitzed.

659
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: So you have to do it together, so you have

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Speaker 4: to do it together.

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Speaker 1: So it's so they did it perfectly.

662
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: Jarrett went one way, so speed dropped, Franklin blitzed and

663
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Speaker 2: instead of picking him up, whoever the running back was

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Speaker 2: went out wide.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why he didn't go in the

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Speaker 1: a yet.

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Speaker 2: But either way, there were a couple I think there

668
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: were two, maybe three that came as a result of

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Speaker 2: a free runner. You know, CJ probably held it a

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Speaker 2: little bit a little bit longer on on one or two,

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Speaker 2: but overalls, I'm going through watching it. I mean I've

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many things. Oh, Kendrick Greens thing and

673
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Speaker 2: Kendrick kNN is this well Pittsburgh said this, and watch

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Speaker 2: the go watch the film, because I'm watching a guy

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Speaker 2: that competed his butt off and actually held his own

676
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Speaker 2: more so than I ever thought he was going to. Now, look,

677
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Speaker 2: I know what you're taking. We do know what I

678
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Speaker 2: told you, only want to excel.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: That's the first time that offensive configuration, offensive line configuration

681
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: have been together.

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Speaker 4: And his first game is a his first game is

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Speaker 4: a Texan.

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Speaker 2: So all things considered, yeah, they want to run the ball,

685
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: and they want to do, but it's there are some

686
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Speaker 2: areas to get better running the ball that don't include

687
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Speaker 2: the five offensive linemen. Tight ends, got a block better,

688
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: running backs have got to get things quicker. They got

689
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Speaker 2: to go now. It's got to happen now that will

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Speaker 2: help out this offensive line. So the times in which

691
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Speaker 2: Daming in particular went one cut and go ten yard

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Speaker 2: run and look good.

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Speaker 4: You know they got Yeah, that's it. They've got to

694
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Speaker 4: be talking about that. If you get Laramie back, you

695
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: get Genniward. That's really gonna help. Let's see what they

696
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Speaker 4: can do with that. Eventually you'll get pe Tree, you know,

697
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Speaker 4: hopefully sooner rather than later. And then you've gotten some

698
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: players back that you were really counting on. You can

699
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: play a lot better as the quarterback improve got to

700
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Speaker 4: protect them as the quarterback improves. And he looked really

701
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Speaker 4: improved last week. Let's see what you can do here.

702
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Speaker 4: You got a long season ahead of You want to

703
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Speaker 4: see progress, and I think we're gonna see some On Sunday.

704
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Speaker 4: You'd love to see the win.

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Speaker 2: I think everything will. We'll get faster, will speed up

706
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Speaker 2: for the offense. That's gonna help the offensive line. It's

707
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: gonna help the tight ends and protection. It's gonna help everybody,

708
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: It helps Stroud, it help everything. Everything's gonna get speedier

709
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: and faster. And you know what, mark that offense from

710
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: week one to week two. I think it was much

711
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Speaker 2: better from week one to week two, No question was

712
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Speaker 2: it better.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't what you wanted it to be ultimately, but

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Speaker 4: it was definitely better. It was a step in the

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Speaker 4: right direction. The defense wasn't, though, so that's something they

716
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Speaker 4: really have to solve.

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Speaker 9: And I think you've.

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Speaker 4: Got the right guy to solve it. I think you've

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Speaker 4: got Demiko Ryans here and Matt Burke, and I think

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Speaker 4: they can get to it. They've been on the dry

721
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Speaker 4: erase board all week and finally talked to the players today.

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Speaker 4: Well I know they talked to the players on Monday

723
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Speaker 4: as well, but they've got their game play and going

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Speaker 4: and I like their chances of solving some of those issues.

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Speaker 4: Will it be enough? We'll find out together Sunday at Dude.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we'll find out. And one of the guys

727
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Speaker 2: that will be instrumental on that is Nico Collins. Did

728
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Speaker 2: a little deep slant interview with Deepy early today. Take

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Speaker 2: a listen next on Texans All Access. Yes, sir, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm John Harris, Football analyst,

732
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Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your House to Texans. Getting excited about

733
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Speaker 2: going to Jacksonville. You know, I just love it going

734
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Speaker 2: to Jacksonville. It's where I grew up basically, as a

735
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Speaker 2: young adult.

736
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Speaker 1: I grew up here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Houstonian, you all know that, but Jacksonville was as

738
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Speaker 2: a young adult spent time there. I met my wife there,

739
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Speaker 2: my son was born there, and I'll take it on

740
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars there on Sunday. But trust me, you know

741
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Speaker 2: how my heart bleeds red, white and Blue babies.

742
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Speaker 1: As does Nico Collins.

743
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Speaker 2: Deep City had a chance to catch up with Nico

744
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Speaker 2: earlier today for our Deep Slant Interview of the week.

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Speaker 1: Deep Be taken Away.

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Speaker 11: It's a Deep Slant one on one presented by Exfinity.

747
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Speaker 11: Joining me, Nico, mister Hundi Collins, first first one hundred

748
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Speaker 11: yard receiving game of your career, how does it feel?

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Speaker 8: It feels good. It feels great. Actually, I feel like

750
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 8: I love little opportunity out there, you know, but I'm

751
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 8: blessed man, you know, is to have a game like

752
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 8: that and to make it out healthy, you know, for

753
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Speaker 8: sure more to come.

754
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Speaker 11: The fact that c J. Stroud's first NFL touchdown forever

755
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Speaker 11: and ever is now linked to you. I mean, that's

756
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 11: such a cool moment. What what was that interaction like

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00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 11: with him after the catch, after the play.

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Speaker 8: It was good, real special man. I know it's nothing

759
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 8: like you know, getting your first touchdown, you know, especially throwing.

760
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 8: It's hard in his lead, you know, to get a touchdown, Man,

761
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Speaker 8: But you know it was it was very special for him, Man,

762
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Speaker 8: and it was meant to be, you know for sure,

763
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Speaker 8: and I just felt good Man, blessed that he got

764
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 8: got the opportunity. Man, blessed. I got my first touchdown

765
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Speaker 8: for the year.

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Speaker 7: Man.

767
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Speaker 8: And it's gonna be a lot more coming, you know,

768
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 8: for sure. You know, for this entire offense, Man, and

769
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Speaker 8: Scott's a limit for everybody.

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Speaker 11: I think fantasy football fans are going to be hitting

771
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Speaker 11: you up in your DMS very very soon. I don't

772
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Speaker 11: know if you know this, but I was reading in

773
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Speaker 11: the Athletic you actually lead the NFL in vertical targets.

774
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 11: You're one target ahead of Tyreek Hill. So on twenty

775
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Speaker 11: two routes, thirteen targets, you have seven receptions one hundred

776
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Speaker 11: and fifty two yards. Hill has twenty five routes, twelve targets,

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Speaker 11: six receptions, So you're just a little bit ahead of

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Speaker 11: the Cheetah in the vertical range. Do you feel like

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Speaker 11: this was a part of your game that was sort

780
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Speaker 11: of in there all along and just need to be unlocked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I always had the ability, you know, No, God blessed

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Speaker 8: me with it, you know, but I feel like now

784
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Speaker 8: is this is on showcase, you know, and whenever my

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Speaker 8: opportunity to come, man, whenever, you know, is my plate.

786
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Speaker 8: You know it's time to you know, get busy. You know,

787
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Speaker 8: it's time to make something happen. You know, try to

788
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Speaker 8: you know, whenever I try to get the ball, men

789
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 8: trying to score. You know, that's the mindset, you know,

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Speaker 8: for for everybody, you know, especially the running bass receivers. Man,

791
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Speaker 8: you know, that's what probably you know, harpones, you know,

792
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 8: Demico harphones manz. If you get the ball in your hand, man,

793
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 8: go score. You know. So that's the mindset.

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Speaker 10: Man.

795
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Speaker 8: We're just gonna keep feeding off of, keep feing the energy, man,

796
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 8: and keep going.

797
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Speaker 11: It seems like after you have the ball in your hands,

798
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Speaker 11: you've got this extra twitch you get yards after the catch.

799
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Speaker 11: What I don't even know? How do you practice that?

800
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Speaker 11: How do you work on that? How do you get

801
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Speaker 11: better at that?

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Speaker 8: Don't you just?

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Speaker 1: I mean you do?

804
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Speaker 11: I mean you've had a few years in the league,

805
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Speaker 11: but have you Is that something that you've been like

806
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 11: working on or or how do you improve on that?

807
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Speaker 1: Really?

808
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 8: Just you know, any drills you know, we do, like

809
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 8: just little short routes, you know, and catch the ball,

810
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Speaker 8: you know, and make a move, you know, just you know,

811
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Speaker 8: do something with it. You know, just yack yack drills,

812
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Speaker 8: you know. But yeah, I feel like the ball coming away. Man,

813
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Speaker 8: it's time to make a play. You know, You've got

814
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Speaker 8: to be athlete, you know, just go score, make a

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Speaker 8: god miss man, get on the edge and the ball

816
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Speaker 8: it's out.

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Speaker 11: I mean for a rookie quarterback and you to have

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Speaker 11: the sort of chemistry that you guys have had. Let

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Speaker 11: we sort of saw it in camp, and we saw

820
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Speaker 11: in the off season, but to be putting that together

821
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Speaker 11: in games. Are you surprised by the chemistry that you

822
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Speaker 11: and CJ have had so far?

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Speaker 7: Not?

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Speaker 8: I'm not, because it came down to the you know,

825
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Speaker 8: to the off season grinds man with with the with

826
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Speaker 8: the receivers and the you know, the tight ends man

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Speaker 8: running bass man, to the off season you know, training camp,

828
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Speaker 8: you know, just accumulated reps over and over. Man, it's

829
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Speaker 8: just so when game time comes, we just snapped. We

830
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Speaker 8: just rolling, you know, not even thinking about it. And

831
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Speaker 8: we're just gonna continue, you know, to keep doing that, man,

832
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 8: continue to watch the film, continue to just get that

833
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: time and down Pat man with everybody man and keep going.

834
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Speaker 8: You know, I feel like that is gonna be special

835
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Speaker 8: for everybody, man, And I'm really excited.

836
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Speaker 11: Are you one of those receivers that? And I heard

837
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Speaker 11: receivers over the years say that to get that chemistry,

838
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Speaker 11: they have to hang out with the quarterback all the time.

839
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Speaker 11: They do stuff together, they socialize. It's just so you

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Speaker 11: guys are on the same page. Like there's like a

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Speaker 11: mental aspect of chemistry too, right.

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Speaker 8: It definitely is. But I feel like the chemistry come

843
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 8: to and you step between them lines. You know, the

844
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Speaker 8: work after practice, you know, just getting that time down,

845
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Speaker 8: you know, routes on there or son on seven, you know,

846
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Speaker 8: the team periods, you know whatever whenever that is. You know,

847
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Speaker 8: just you know, we going, man. You just gotta get

848
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Speaker 8: that that rep down.

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Speaker 11: Is that something you guys were doing working with each

850
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Speaker 11: other after practice and stuff, even.

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Speaker 8: Though you know it was a rep you didn't get

852
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 8: you know, we missed and doing practice. You know, we

853
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 8: stay out there to get that, you know, make sure

854
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 8: we got that two or three times, you know, just

855
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Speaker 8: get that down, Pat, So when that rep comes Sunday,

856
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Speaker 8: just flawing, not even thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: Boom.

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Speaker 8: That's the repose, the extra rest we took out the practice,

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Speaker 8: you know, So just continue to chase man, the small details.

860
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Speaker 8: That's what we all continue to do every day.

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Speaker 11: I know with CJ, a lot of people really have

862
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Speaker 11: praised his ball placement and the accuracy, and so I

863
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Speaker 11: want to hear from a wide receiver's point of view,

864
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Speaker 11: like ball, I mean, it looks like the balls always

865
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Speaker 11: headed in your direction based on how you're moving your body.

866
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Speaker 11: But what does that mean to you? The ball placement

867
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Speaker 11: aspect of it, it's a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of ball places.

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Speaker 11: It's a lot like how does it How does it

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Speaker 11: his any better than any other quarterbacks?

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Speaker 8: I'll just say, is really this ballplace?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 8: Is big time for quarterback and receiver, you know, just

874
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Speaker 8: like say is it's a coverage man, You need the

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Speaker 8: ball like over your outside shoulder or something, because you

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Speaker 8: know the dB sitting on your little hip just putting

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Speaker 8: up all right there. Nobody else can get it. But

878
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 8: you you know, just little things like that, or just

879
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 8: moving one guy with your eyes, knowing where you're about

880
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 8: to go with the other one. You know, just just

881
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 8: little things like that. Man, I just feel like he's

882
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 8: just gonna get easier and easier for him, you know,

883
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 8: once he figured out the coverages, you know, and just

884
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 8: once the game slow down for him, and it's gonna

885
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 8: be a lifestyle for him, you know for sure. Dude, dude,

886
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 8: got it.

887
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 11: It's been so much fun to watch you. Guys. It's

888
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 11: it's almost like you forget. I had forgotten that your

889
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 11: season last year ended with you on ir so last

890
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 11: year that happened, and then this year it's like we've

891
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 11: totally forgotten that you went through all that. But I'm

892
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 11: sure your off season looked very different, just sort of

893
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 11: mentally getting back to where you knew that you could be.

894
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 11: What did that look like for you?

895
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 8: I just know my season and the way I wanted

896
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 8: to and I knew my focus going into following season. Man,

897
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 8: just do whatever you can. Just you know, be available

898
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 8: for the team, you know, whatever it is, you know,

899
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 8: and continue to work on your craft and you know,

900
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 8: just continue to you know, just be you. You know,

901
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 8: you go every day, you know, just us the days. Man,

902
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 8: just keep going, you know, and I feel like I

903
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 8: just thank God every day just for everything, you know,

904
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 8: just not taking you know, advantage of you know, just

905
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 8: coming into a building, you know, and just going shit

906
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 8: the locker, you know, going to practice because you know,

907
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 8: it's a lot of guys man that's as willing to

908
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 8: be on your spot, you know, and that's just that's

909
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 8: just how the business is, you know. So I feel

910
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 8: like I had that mental part in your head, you know,

911
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 8: just let's go to work every day, you know. I

912
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 8: just feel like after that injury I had, it was

913
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 8: just keep going stacking days.

914
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 11: So what did you do in the off season?

915
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 8: Were you here?

916
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: Were?

917
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 11: I know you you guys had met up a few

918
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 11: places and worked out together. But what did your off

919
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 11: season look like to get back to here?

920
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: You know?

921
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 8: I went home, see my mom, a little bit, end up,

922
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 8: you know, going to Cali. Uh, you talk a little

923
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 8: bit of the small trips, not crazy. I didn't take

924
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 8: like a you know trip. Yeah, I was.

925
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 11: You can always work on that out of the country too,

926
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 11: if you wanted to.

927
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 8: I'm working on it. I'm thinking about this season. Just

928
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 8: one little trip, just one little trip.

929
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 11: I think you've earned it so so far. Yeah, I mean,

930
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 11: I don't even know what like you're on pace for

931
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 11: if you keep up this rate for their year either.

932
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 8: I'm just I'm day by day man. Just break by break,

933
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 8: you know, just seeing what what's next. You know, but

934
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 8: it's all season. Yeah, I was just telling I was

935
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 8: I wasn't doing enough, just working. I was here for

936
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 8: the most part, working on my game, just just staying

937
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 8: out the way, just waiting for camp to roll around,

938
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 8: you know, what's doing whatever. I can't stand shape for

939
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 8: camp because I know when camp come, that's a whole

940
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 8: different ball game.

941
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 11: You just have like such a quiet way about you.

942
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 11: You've never been like super like. It's funny because wide receivers,

943
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 11: you know, they have a lot of different personalities, but

944
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 11: you just sort of had this way about you. I mean,

945
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 11: is that how you've always been just with your work ethics.

946
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've always been, you know, just a quiet dude,

947
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 8: you know, just head down, just want to work. Nothing.

948
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 8: I just always been like that. Man, It's from day one.

949
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 8: Thing I kind of want to blame my parents, want

950
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 8: a thing for it.

951
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: You know.

952
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 8: It's just been you know, just head down, just willing

953
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 8: to work.

954
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: You know.

955
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 8: I feel like I don't take anything for granted. I

956
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 8: feel like you can't because just never know what's next,

957
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 8: you know. So I just feel and just every day

958
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 8: just to get better, just whatever you do.

959
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I can see that. And we saw that

960
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 11: when you were a rookie here just a few years ago,

961
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 11: Like what you could do. It's so much fun watching

962
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 11: out there. You've got a whole new receivers room. Everybody's

963
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 11: sort of like. You got Robert Wood, then you got

964
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 11: like Tank, and then you've got yourself and then John Metchi.

965
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 11: Of course, what a great story. So I got to

966
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 11: ask you because you're like the most ten tech, tenured

967
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 11: Texan on the wide receivers group. But then you got Tank,

968
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 11: who is like mister Houston. So who is the most

969
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 11: Houston of you all? I mean, are you giving him tips?

970
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 11: Is he giving you tips? I'm like, what, Really, you're

971
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 11: gonna give it to Tank? He's been here longer than

972
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 11: you by a little bit. Yeah, you've been here three years.

973
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 11: I guess you have age. And then okay, so you're

974
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 11: gonna give it to Tank. What have you learned about

975
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 11: Houston from Tank? But you didn't even know.

976
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 8: Houston. Man, The Houston traffic is terrible.

977
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 11: You knew that already.

978
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know you gotta leave a couple of minutes before.

979
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah?

980
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 8: What else?

981
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 11: But like going like places to eat fun place. Is

982
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 11: he good with stuff like that or is that still

983
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 11: you I feel like you've been here for a minute.

984
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 8: I can say it's okay, But fool wise, I eat

985
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 8: whatever is in the cafe because the food they bring

986
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 8: through that cafe.

987
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 11: It's really good, right, It's crazy.

988
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 8: It's probably like some of the best food I had

989
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 8: in a minute. You know, just every day it's different.

990
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 11: What's your favorite thing that the cafe here has. You're like, oh, yes,

991
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 11: this is on the menu today.

992
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 8: I think it was last year they brought through here.

993
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 11: I don't think that's like the healthy food, but yeah,

994
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 11: but they do cheap Fridays are good. Yeah, I thought

995
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 11: you were going to say something like salad or something.

996
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 8: Normally gave get burgers. Yeah, spot in the city. Whatever

997
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 8: it is.

998
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 11: Why know CJ? When I interviewed CG after the draft,

999
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 11: because I saw him in the cafe during the draft

1000
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 11: process and I told him and he said the first

1001
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 11: thing he said was food is so good in the cafe,

1002
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 11: because even the water is good in the cafe is crazy.

1003
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 8: You really got to watch what you're in because you

1004
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: would just walk through the air just going from meeting

1005
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 8: to meat and just like yo got a whole meals

1006
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 8: in front of you, like I gotta go on the Meetans,

1007
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 8: but just I feel like it's so Much's like different

1008
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 8: flavors of food. Here you get chew us from I

1009
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 8: love it.

1010
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 11: Right, I love it, but we love we love seeing

1011
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 11: you out on the field and you go. Congrats on

1012
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 11: the Hundi and best of luck for the rest of

1013
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 11: the season.

1014
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

1015
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: That man is soft spoken, but he is a killer

1016
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: on the field. Hopefully he'll remain that way staying healthy.

1017
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: We'll be big, but hopefully that I'll stay that way

1018
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: for Sunday against Jacksonville. Right, we get back, Let's go

1019
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: around the NFL big stories, especially in Chicago.

1020
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: We'll get to those next. Right here, Texans All Access,

1021
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: what's up? Walking back this Wednesday issue of Texans All Access.

1022
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Glad you're here with me John Harris Football on a

1023
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: sideline reporter and one of the more more important aspects,

1024
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: says we start getting into the season ends up being

1025
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: the injury report. And we had a feeling this one

1026
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: was gonna be fairly lightly on the Texans side.

1027
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: And it is now.

1028
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: Some of these we knew all about Jalen Petrie, you know,

1029
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: it's still dealing dealing with the chest issue. Tabio Thomas

1030
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: sounds like a broken hand. Now he's not been put

1031
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: in an IR yet, so we'll see. But he was

1032
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: not a practice today. Denzel Perriman was at practice with

1033
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 2: DMP dealing with a hand and the wrist limited. Tank,

1034
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: George Fan, John Gernnard, Eric Murray, c J. Stroud, Laramie Tunzel,

1035
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Jimmy Ward, Robert Woods. So some good news in the

1036
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: fact that Ward did practice a little Laramie did practice

1037
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1038
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Hates and Tank there.

1039
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Tank took that shot on the punt that was I

1040
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: think that was the thigh thing. Now he played through

1041
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: it and hopefully he's gonna be okay. So I'm moving around.

1042
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: Looked like he's moving around all right, but gotta put

1043
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: it on the injury report.

1044
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1045
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: On the Jaguar side, couple, I guess to focus on

1046
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: here wide receivers A Jones DNP dealing with me, Antonio Johnson,

1047
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: Aggie ham string, Brandon Sheriff not injury related personal matter,

1048
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: and Folu Fatsukasi shoulder. Those are four DMPs for the Jags,

1049
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: all pretty important in their own way. Johnson and Rookie

1050
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: do more on special teams than anything else at this point,

1051
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: but say Jones to keep part of the passing game now.

1052
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Limited participant Josh Allen went out of the game against

1053
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, not Bill's quarterback.

1054
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen, pass rusher for the Jaguars.

1055
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: Limited participant in practice today Andrew Wing guard safety, also

1056
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: special teamer. He also dealing with a shoulder around. The

1057
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: NFL is gonna go essentially to Chicago where it's nuts.

1058
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: So Justin Fields went to the podium today and he

1059
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: was asked why he was so robotic, and he waited.

1060
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: For a second and then he said coaching. Yikes.

1061
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: So that all pops up on the social media a

1062
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: little while later, I see Justin Fields has asked to

1063
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: meet the media in the locker room to go over

1064
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: his thoughts, and so essentially Justin feel's like, look, I'm

1065
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: not gonna blame anybody. I don't blame anybody.

1066
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: You know this. I wouldn't put the blame of everybody else.

1067
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: I put it on me. I just I gotta play

1068
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: how I play, et cetera, et cetera.

1069
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: That coming from the starting quarterback, especially after you listen

1070
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: to CJ.

1071
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: Stroud talk to the Houston media.

1072
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: It is absolutely amazing to listen to that young man

1073
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: speak to the media.

1074
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: He is so authentic and so.

1075
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: Real and it's just really enjoyable to listen to him

1076
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: talk to the media. And then you hear the Justin

1077
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: Fields thing and you're like, man, and I just I

1078
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 2: couldn't see the leader of this team, CJ. Stroud saying

1079
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: anything of that magnitude. So crazy stuff that is probably, oh,

1080
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's at least the second craziest thing

1081
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: that happened.

1082
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Alan Williams resigned today.

1083
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Was not at the game at Tampa Bay, and it

1084
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: was anounced he was dealing with personal matter. And then

1085
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: the rumors started popping up on social media and essentially

1086
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: at least three or four different reporters. Now it's not

1087
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: a chef that, it's not a rap report, it's not

1088
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: one of the top level reporters, but people apparently in

1089
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Chicago art oh, if this is true, Oh my gosh,

1090
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: this is awful.

1091
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: It could be bad. So there's all kinds of that

1092
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: going on.

1093
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Speaker 2: The gist of it is Alan Williams is out, but

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00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: there were rumors of a there were rumors of an

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00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: FBI raid at House Hall, where the Bears do their work.

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Speaker 1: There were rumors of an FBI raid at his house.

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Speaker 2: And either way, Alan Willis put out a statement saying,

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Speaker 2: I'm resigning because of my health. I need to take

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00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: care of personal matter, et cetera, et cetera. The score

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Speaker 2: seven six seventy said, and I quote, it's serious, it's

1101
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: self inflicted. Were still working on it, so yikes. Oh

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00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: and then, by the way, the Bears released Nathan Peterman.

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Speaker 2: So that was all going on in Hallis Hall today.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I hate to see NFL teams have to

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00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: go through situations as such. I just I just absolutely

1106
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: despise it. But you know, real life. You know, football

1107
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: is not immune to real life. You know, it's kind

1108
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: of crazy. Will Compton, who is Busting the Boys podcast

1109
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: is set a little while ago. This Allan Williams news

1110
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: has to be insane the way nobody wants to break

1111
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: it and risk any of it being wrong, which I

1112
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: which I think is is pretty true. In other news,

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, in no shock at all, are signing

1114
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt, former Brown's running back from her Chiefs running back,

1115
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: signing a one year deal It's like it's about four

1116
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: million and a way you go. He's gonna be with

1117
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: drum Ford Now, Kevin Stefanski said, drome Ford is the starter,

1118
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: Hunts the back. I mean, that's just what it's been.

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00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: Now we'll see Hunt missed all training camp, missed the

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Speaker 2: first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fresh, I would imagine.

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00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: But we'll see what that means to the Browns and hopefully,

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00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: knowing that we have the Browns draft pick in twenty

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00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: twenty four, hopefully he doesn't turn out to be the

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Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt that we saw in twenty twenty eighteen when

1126
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: he was crushing it with the Chiefs and then obviously

1127
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: he had his issues, was released by the Chiefs, went

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Speaker 2: to the Browns, et cetera. So crazy Stubb in the NFL,

1129
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: but some stuff to be expected. Cleveland signing Kareem Hunt

1130
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: was probably, I don't know, minus fifty thousand that they

1131
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: were gonna get that done.

1132
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: And if you speak gambling parlance, you know that was

1133
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna happen. And it did.

1134
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: So Cleveland's got a running back to go with an

1135
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: offense that needed some help, to say the least. Now

1136
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: a guy that was a running back, but he was

1137
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a fullback than he was

1138
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: running back. Is Moran Norris. He is featured in Texans

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Speaker 2: OG's with Everybody, Indy Clue. That's next to kick off

1140
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: for a second hour right here in Texans All Access.

1141
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: We're back second hour kicking off of Texans All Access.

1142
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter. It's

1143
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: time for Texans Ogs with nd klu and he sits

1144
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: down with a former Texan, sometimes a former teammate, sometimes not.

1145
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: This week he sat down with Moran Norris. It's gonna

1146
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: be a fun interview. Take a listen, all.

1147
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 12: Right, welcome in, we have another edition of OG podcast.

1148
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 12: I'm in d Kolou and in the seat across from

1149
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 12: me a guy that consider a friend now, a guy

1150
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 12: that I had a chance to play. We had a

1151
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 12: training camp together here. I've actually always known about I'm

1152
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 12: being a football fan and a fan of what goes

1153
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 12: on in h Town. But a guy who plays a

1154
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 12: position that you better put them pads on tight if

1155
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 12: you play full back position. Moran Norris one of the

1156
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 12: best to ever do it for the Houston Texans. Long

1157
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 12: long career in the NFL after graduating from Madison, then

1158
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 12: going to Kansas and then from there playing for Houston Texans,

1159
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 12: the Saints, the San Francisco for a Niners, the Miami Dolphins, Detroit, Detroit, Okay, Detroit.

1160
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 12: You know, just a guy that I followed his career.

1161
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 12: But he's chilling with us here at the OG podcast.

1162
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 12: Welcome in Maranny. What's going on? Andy Man? Great to

1163
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 12: have Thanks for having me Man, Great to have you,

1164
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 12: and thanks for joining us here the podcast. Typically, just

1165
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 12: if you don't know how the show is, we just

1166
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 12: chop it up. We just talked like we're at one

1167
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 12: of our events and we.

1168
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: Just hang out. Let's do it. Talk a little ball,

1169
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: talk a little life.

1170
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 9: Let's do it.

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00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 12: Speaking of life life after you know you played at

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00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 12: a high level obviously at Madison. First of all, let

1173
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 12: me ask you this, how does a kid from h

1174
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 12: town and I know, the big schools, they come to

1175
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 12: Houston because there's so much talent here.

1176
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: How do you end up at Kansas?

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00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 9: Well, to be quite honest, they was coming looking at

1178
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 9: our quarterback and you know how they go, They looking

1179
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 9: at somebody else and then I had a good game

1180
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 9: and next thing, you know, me and my run back.

1181
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 9: We went on a recruit visit there and he anyway,

1182
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 9: he ended up going to Bail. I went to Kansas.

1183
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 9: So that's basically it was come and look at the

1184
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 9: quarterback and that's how I got you know, kind of

1185
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 9: like got on the mat with Kansas.

1186
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: That's big. And I love those stories where Division I schools.

1187
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 12: Come to a high school to look at one player

1188
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 12: and then somebody balls out right like this guy.

1189
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: So when did they get on your radar? Was it

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Speaker 3: your senior year or.

1191
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 9: My senior year? After we put we beat All Dean.

1192
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 9: I had like a sixty four yard touchdown third play

1193
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 9: of the game. So you know back then All Dan

1194
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 9: they was real good, ranked in the state. So and

1195
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 9: we beat we beat them. Now I was on the

1196
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Speaker 9: radar Den.

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Speaker 12: Okay, So when when you because you talked about sixty

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Speaker 12: four yard touchdown, but when I think of you as

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Speaker 12: a battering ram, you know, catch the ball out of

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Speaker 12: the backfield, Like when did you have to switch from

1201
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 12: being that guy who could be dynamic with the ball

1202
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 12: to leading the way for those halfbacks?

1203
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: When did you have to change that?

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 8: Man?

1205
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 7: Time?

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Speaker 9: And I guess like when I got in college, you know,

1207
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 9: they So my coach said, they gonna move you from

1208
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 9: tight end the full back. I said, why you say that, No,

1209
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 9: no they're not. He said, no, you're gonna be a

1210
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 9: big boy. I said, no, no, they're not coach. You

1211
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 9: know the coach seals. I said, no, they're not coach.

1212
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 9: You're right on a lot, but not on this. I

1213
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 9: didn't want to believe it. So got the Kansas and

1214
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 9: you know, back then they like the big six four

1215
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 9: two point fifty two sixty blocking log tight ends. You know,

1216
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 9: they wouldn't really just they just sit there and block

1217
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 9: and get a five in out here and there. And hey,

1218
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 9: after like year or two, they switched me over to

1219
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 9: full back. And shoot, I started three years and fullback,

1220
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 9: and then from my junior year running backs got hurt,

1221
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 9: so it was me and one running back going into

1222
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 9: the game. They said, I don't have to play some

1223
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 9: running back in the game. So man, we're playing k State.

1224
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 9: I had a forty two UI run, had a touchdown,

1225
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 9: and from there I started averaging twenty carres a game,

1226
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 9: and the other two running backs they started getting two

1227
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 9: carres a game. So that's what really put me on

1228
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 9: the map. At like I was a full back, but slash.

1229
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 9: I started running the ball then too, So I was

1230
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 9: averaging like twenty cars a game.

1231
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Speaker 12: No, that's that's a running back, you know what I'm saying.

1232
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 12: Then they put a full back in front of me.

1233
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 12: We'll go down the field and then I just do

1234
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 12: one back set. So yeah, I was you know, now

1235
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 12: when they told you, hey, you're gonna have to carry

1236
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 12: the rock this game, were you excited, like about time

1237
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 12: I can show y'all.

1238
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 9: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I was excited. I mean,

1239
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 9: you know, what's a full But I used to like

1240
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 9: doing what I'm doing. You know, dude, you know, you

1241
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 9: get a ball here, get a ball here and there,

1242
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 9: you'd be cool. But uh, I wasn't really excited. I

1243
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 9: mean it was just like, you know, I got to

1244
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 9: play a little running back this game, and I never

1245
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 9: thought that would change my whole life, you know.

1246
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 12: So yeah, that's an awesome story, an awesome story. Let's

1247
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 12: keep it right here in Age Town. Because you know,

1248
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 12: I'm a huge football fan. Like, if high school's on,

1249
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 12: I'm watching it right freshman football and I'm watching it,

1250
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 12: so I know about Madison, I know about the history.

1251
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 3: There a buddy of mine.

1252
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 12: We were commenting on how it's crazy, like when I'm

1253
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 12: older than you, you know, but when I grew up

1254
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 12: in San Antonio, we heard about Houston Yates, we heard

1255
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 12: about Madison, we heard about Willer Ridge. But now those

1256
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 12: schools are programs, aren't They kind of they're not producing.

1257
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 12: Like does that kind of hurt you as a guy

1258
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 12: that was there balling at a Madison and to see

1259
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 12: where they're at, Yeah, it does hurt, just because you.

1260
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 9: Know, I grew up around the area. And but you know,

1261
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, you kind of get it,

1262
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 9: just because you know they got all these other schools

1263
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 9: coming in and if you got a chance to go

1264
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 9: to a school in Parland, a better school or I

1265
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 9: would say better, but just a better environment, you know

1266
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 9: you're gonna see your child there, right, So you know,

1267
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 9: I get it.

1268
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: And it was just weird.

1269
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 12: And it's just what you said with the pairlands of

1270
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 12: Kadi's Manville's out.

1271
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, you'll senior kid in a better environment,

1272
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 9: and hey, that's you know, that's what happened.

1273
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 12: Is there anything the Madisons and Yates and Willa Ridge

1274
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 12: of the world can do? And this is real talk here,

1275
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 12: like like, is there anything they can do to turn

1276
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 12: it around or do you think.

1277
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 9: Man, it's kind of it's hard, Like I mean, you

1278
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 9: got to put yourself in the shoes. If you have

1279
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 9: you can go to Katie Paerlan Manville, AVN. Would you

1280
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 9: go and see your child over there? I mean it's

1281
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 9: kind of hard. I mean, you know, I think it's

1282
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 9: us as parents. We think God kids is not as

1283
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 9: tougher than we were, you know, we think they kind

1284
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 9: of grew up a little different, which they do, grew

1285
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 9: up a little different than we grew up. You know,

1286
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 9: so you know, you try to protect the kids and

1287
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 9: try to you know, that's what you do.

1288
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 3: You nailed it with two of my boys.

1289
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 12: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna make y'all

1290
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 12: go to h I s D and learn what it means,

1291
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 12: you know, go through the struggle.

1292
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: I thought about it.

1293
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 12: I was like, Nah, they wouldn't made it. I guess

1294
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 12: I'm part of the problem. But uh yeah, let's talk

1295
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 12: about here. You know, we're here at NRG Stadium for

1296
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 12: Texans Radio in their in their studio.

1297
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: It's an only too.

1298
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 12: You know, there are no such things as moral victories,

1299
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 12: but there's been this this excitement in the air, this

1300
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 12: excitement with the coaching staff. As a guy that played here,

1301
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 12: a guy that watched football for you know, many years,

1302
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 12: can you kind of talk about if you're still excited

1303
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 12: about this organization and why?

1304
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean we had two games

1305
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 9: and you know, we have fifteen more and it's looking

1306
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 9: it's moving in a promising direction.

1307
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

1308
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 9: You look at the team this year, it's just a

1309
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 9: whole lot of excitement around it. It's a whole lot

1310
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 9: of you know, we got new guys and we got

1311
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 9: i mean, you know, we the lineman. We got the

1312
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 9: lineman down now. But it's moving in a good direction.

1313
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 9: I mean, I've been around here from here, so I

1314
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 9: follow the text and I play here, and I'm sure

1315
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 9: I know you do as well. So I see it

1316
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 9: moving in the right direction. You know, I might we

1317
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 9: might see some of the fans don't see, but we

1318
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 9: see it, you know, because we be around the practices

1319
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 9: and stuff, and you know, I think it's a good move.

1320
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 12: What's the mindset? You played running back, you played full back,

1321
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 12: you even play some tight end. What's the mindset? Because

1322
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 12: you brought up the offensive line and if I'm not

1323
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 12: mistaken this previous game.

1324
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: Not making excuses. I'm just bringing up a point.

1325
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 12: This previous game, four of the guys that were expected

1326
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 12: to be starters were down. Yeah, I think Shaq Mason

1327
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 12: was the only starter as a running back. Is a

1328
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 12: mindset like you know what, I just got to step

1329
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 12: it up, or is they're a part.

1330
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 9: Of you like oh damn, Like, hey, this the NFL.

1331
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 9: So you know it's first team, second team. So they

1332
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 9: just didn't get here just off a fluke, you know,

1333
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 9: the second team. You know, so, hey, it's time to

1334
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 9: step up, and you know you got to run the

1335
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 9: ball because you know, people just don't come in, you

1336
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 9: just don't grow. You just don't be the start of

1337
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 9: your whole time. You got to work for it, you know.

1338
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 9: So you was a second team once before, so you

1339
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 9: know that's how I look at things.

1340
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 12: Shoot, second team was my first string. That's my goal

1341
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 12: to get to the second string when I got to

1342
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 12: the league. The full back position is it does the

1343
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 12: NFL respected the way it should. It doesn't seem like

1344
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 12: it's a dying breed, but you know everything recycles that

1345
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 12: come back. Yeah, it's a dying breed, but it's I

1346
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 12: think it's starting to come back. You know, you got fullbacks,

1347
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 12: You got fullbacks, and the guy that's making all the

1348
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 12: money in San Francisco juice to call him juice or whatever,

1349
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 12: you know. So I think when you got full best

1350
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 12: getting paid that kind of money, I think that eventually

1351
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 12: it's gonna come back around. One thing I've noticed, and

1352
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 12: maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly, and I noticed it

1353
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 12: even here, Like with Gillespie I believe was his name.

1354
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 12: There'll be a year where a fullback seems to do

1355
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 12: everything they asked him to do and he's becoming a

1356
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 12: budding star, and then they're just gone, like is it

1357
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 12: a different offensive system.

1358
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 9: Or well, you know, like tight ends could do more things? Okay,

1359
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 9: you know, so tight ends, I mean that's how they

1360
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 9: you know, that's you know I've experienced in my whole career.

1361
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 9: So tight ends they you know, they can catch, they

1362
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 9: can block, they could do all things. So you know

1363
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 9: they could do more, you know, So.

1364
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 12: It's the more one or the other, Like either you

1365
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 12: got to keep a tight end or a fullback or

1366
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 12: well if they.

1367
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 9: If you can get a tight end that can just

1368
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 9: not scared to go in there and do you know,

1369
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 9: most tight ends don't want to block such as like

1370
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about on the line, talking about iceos

1371
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 9: and five yards of boy from the linebacker, and they

1372
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 9: five yards you hit them with the battle around. Most

1373
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 9: tight ands don't want to do that. But if you

1374
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 9: get one tight end and want to do that, then

1375
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 9: you know, and they can catch the ball.

1376
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 12: So you know why they don't want to do it

1377
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 12: because it hurts, yeah, right right, yeah, yeah. I played

1378
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 12: one game in high school. In high school, they put

1379
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 12: me in a full back because a man, coach, I

1380
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 12: should be going both ways. At the time, I'd already

1381
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 12: established myself as a defensive end. We're playing sagein high

1382
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 12: school and a scrimmage put me a full bag. This

1383
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 12: little skinny linebacker was lighting my ass up, not knocking

1384
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 12: me down like I'm bringing it to them. But in

1385
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 12: my head, I'm like, this hurts.

1386
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1387
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: Man.

1388
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 12: At the end of that scrimmage, I told coach I'm

1389
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 12: good at so you were doing that against you know

1390
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 12: the Patrick Willikson, Well, how do you feel?

1391
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: Now? How does that body feel? Because I know you

1392
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: took it. It took it.

1393
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know. I have my days when I'm

1394
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 9: sorry you know, I got to get up and do

1395
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 9: my stretching and you know, just do different stuff just

1396
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 9: to do day by day just to be able to

1397
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 9: you know, function every day. But yeah, I have some aches, and.

1398
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 12: You know, being a tough fullback, you said something over

1399
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 12: most people, you have to do some things just to function.

1400
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 12: You know, we kind of like we just gotta do

1401
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 12: what we gotta do. That's pretty serious. Like if you

1402
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 12: don't do a certain stretch or movement, yeah, you gotta.

1403
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 9: Yeah. So it's like, hey, what you're gonna do? You know,

1404
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 9: you gotta do it. Like I mean, you know, I

1405
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 9: think we so like in that mentality where we grew

1406
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 9: up at like if it's something we got a problem,

1407
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 9: we gotta fix it. Like we can't see we gotta

1408
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 9: fix it. Like that's it. It ain't no other solution.

1409
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 9: Like so, you know, when I wake up in the morning,

1410
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 9: I'm not feeling the best, I'm like, hey, I gotta

1411
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 9: do this today, you know, like you get off the pot.

1412
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: That's real.

1413
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 12: That's one of those young men what you're saying, like

1414
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 12: we just got to fix it, got to make it work,

1415
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 12: got to move forward with it.

1416
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: And it's funny.

1417
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 12: I was at a doctor's appointment not too long ago,

1418
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 12: and he was asking me how I feel, and I

1419
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 12: was telling him, like you, I can't really turn this

1420
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 12: way right, and I wasn't trying to sound like a

1421
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 12: tough guy, and he was all, how long has this

1422
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 12: been going on? And then he was all, why haven't

1423
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 12: you done anything? I was I just don't turn my head,

1424
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 12: that's yeah, and he's like, no, that's not normal. So

1425
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 12: with you saying yeah, I got to do some things

1426
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 12: just to function, it just kind of reminds me.

1427
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 9: I'm in the house with all women, my wife and

1428
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 9: two two daughters, so when stuff happened, they put it

1429
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 9: out on me like they put it on me, and

1430
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 9: that's it.

1431
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 12: So you know, they don't ask before we put this

1432
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 12: on you. You just got to make it happen, you know,

1433
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 12: I just gotta make it happen, all right? To tell

1434
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 12: taken on division rival Jacksonville Jaguars. Regardless of what team

1435
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 12: you played for, was there a little extra adrenaline for

1436
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 12: you for the divisional games?

1437
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 9: Or oh yeah, of course, yeah, yeah. The division game

1438
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 9: always always just because you're gonna see them twice a year,

1439
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 9: and hey, you got to make it out that division

1440
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 9: you know, to proceed and go to the playoffs or

1441
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 9: whatever you're trying to do. People ask me this all

1442
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 9: the time, and I always feel like I don't give

1443
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 9: them the answer they want. Was there a team that

1444
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 9: you hated in the NFL?

1445
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 7: Like?

1446
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 12: For me, it was like nah, by the time I

1447
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 12: got to the league, I was just yeah, it just

1448
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 12: happen to be playing exactly. But was there a team

1449
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 12: where you're like, man, I just we gotta.

1450
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: Beat this team?

1451
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: Nah?

1452
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 9: No, not really. Well, when I play here Tennessee, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tennessee.

1453
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 9: That was a big one. When I played with San Francisco,

1454
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 9: like Oakland because it was like Battle de Bay, you know,

1455
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 9: just stuff like that. But yeah, you know, you have

1456
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 9: certain teams that you just you want to beat. Then

1457
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 9: you just you know, passing against him.

1458
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 12: I will say the fans do a good job of

1459
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 12: projecting that energy to the players, because you know, I

1460
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 12: grew up in San Antonio. So when I went to

1461
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 12: Philly and they're like, oh, we hate the Cowboys, I

1462
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 12: was like, yeah, I hate them.

1463
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: But then after a while I was like, okay, I hate.

1464
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 9: You yeah right right, yeah, now we got great fans here.

1465
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 9: I mean, you go to other places, it's like the

1466
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 9: fans go south on you real quick, real you know.

1467
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 9: So you know, great fans here though in Houston though,

1468
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 9: the best fans the.

1469
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 12: OG sent across from me. Moran Norris played high school

1470
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 12: ball right here in Ahetown at Madison, took his talent

1471
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 12: to Kansas and then a long, lengthy, successful career in

1472
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 12: the NFL, which included a stop right here in Houston

1473
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 12: with the Houston Texans and talking about now his foundation,

1474
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 12: what he's doing here in age Town, that the foundation

1475
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 12: has been big for you, Like when it feels like

1476
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 12: as long as I've known you, you've been doing on

1477
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 12: your foundation and helping out let the people know kind

1478
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 12: of like what your focus is with the foundation.

1479
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, so me and my wife start the foundation really

1480
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 9: like in two thousand and four, but officially two thousand

1481
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 9: and five. But uh, we just I mean we've been

1482
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 9: doing it like almost twenty years now, so we've been

1483
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 9: doing We do scholarships, we do school drive giveaway. We

1484
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 9: just had a school drive giveaway last weekend at Madison.

1485
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 9: We do we used to do this shopping for Good Character.

1486
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 9: We had different programs, so shopping for Good characters where

1487
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 9: you got to write an essay and the teachers graded,

1488
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 9: and you take fifty kids from me school and they

1489
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 9: get one hundred doll of shopping spirit target.

1490
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me do the race. Man.

1491
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 9: That's a lot of money you're getting right there. So

1492
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 9: you do like we did, like two hundred and fifty kids. Wow,

1493
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 9: and we bust them over there, We feed them and

1494
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 9: they get little shopping spree and you be paired of

1495
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 9: with a chaperon, like one person for five kids whatever.

1496
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 9: And you know, the chaperon is just there to like

1497
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 9: because some kids get a hundred out, they just want

1498
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 9: to spend it on games like hey, it's mother Day

1499
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 9: weekend or whatever, get your mom something, and you know,

1500
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 9: may be considered we did programs like that.

1501
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 12: We don't do that anymore. We do a lot of stuff,

1502
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 12: you know. So and one thing like with you, it

1503
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 12: felt like it was personal. Like a lot of guys

1504
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 12: and not to knock them, if you're helping, your helping,

1505
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 12: it feels like they're doing it just to get their

1506
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 12: name and the paper camera. But with you, it's it's

1507
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 12: always felt like it was almost felt like a job.

1508
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 12: You know, I've seen you in action and you've reached

1509
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 12: out to us to help out, Like, so, what what

1510
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 12: was the drive behind it?

1511
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 7: Man?

1512
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 9: I guess like just growing up and there I grew

1513
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 9: up in I just say, if I ever be naked

1514
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 9: or whatever, I want to give back to the community.

1515
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 9: And that's what I did. So I kind of started that.

1516
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 9: Like in college. I used to go volunteer at this

1517
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 9: this home and help kids out in Kansas. In Kansas, yeah,

1518
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 9: I used to go do it. And I ain't have

1519
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 9: nothing in Kansas, but I just used to go volunteer

1520
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 9: and do it, and I thought it was pretty cool

1521
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 9: just to you know, have that kid to smile. Let

1522
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 9: me give you a funny story. So my daughter played volleyball.

1523
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 9: We go to this game one the Uosh game, and

1524
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 9: little kid that I used to mentor in this middle

1525
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 9: of this elementary now he's grown. He found me on

1526
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 9: Facebook and he used to coach at Arizona somewhere and

1527
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 9: he reached out to me, like, hey, you want to

1528
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 9: come to a college game. So yeah, we've never been

1529
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 9: to one before, and he just remembered like how you know,

1530
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 9: how I treat him when he when he was there.

1531
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 9: So you just never know, you know what I'm saying,

1532
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 9: That ain't the reason I'm doing I did it, but

1533
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 9: I'm just saying yeah, like im yeah, Like man, I'm like,

1534
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 9: we're trying to go to college this year, like yeah

1535
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 9: for me, my daughter looking for right so now, but no.

1536
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 12: That's strong. Yeah that's actually to me. And again, like

1537
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 12: you said, you don't do it for that.

1538
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you build relationships and stuff. You just even

1539
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 9: know you know who these people might be on one day.

1540
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 7: You know.

1541
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 12: Now I know your daughter's uh, you know, very good athlete.

1542
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 12: Can you kind of talk about like how you coach

1543
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 12: her up some of the when do you bite your tongue?

1544
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 3: When do you just well, I kind.

1545
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 9: Of let her, Like she have a volleyball game today.

1546
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 9: I just kind of let her play, Like I don't

1547
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 9: be that parent that like hey you know and all

1548
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 9: this and kind of discourage the kids. I just let

1549
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 9: her play and she know I'm in her presence, so

1550
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 9: she's gonna give her best. You know, she she's having

1551
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 9: a bad game, I'm like, come on, let's go, you know,

1552
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 9: but not like you know, coming there is like make

1553
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 9: you feel all bad or whatever, because you know, I

1554
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 9: was an athlete once, Like who want to feel like that?

1555
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 9: You know, like you already got enough pressure and we

1556
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 9: need pressure from parents. So yeah, so you know, but

1557
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 9: she she'r hard worker and you know, produce successful sports.

1558
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: What about the preparation.

1559
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 12: I know, Robert Smith, Travis Johnson, we talked and we

1560
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 12: kind of joke, but at the same time we're not

1561
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 12: joking with the kids and not really knowing how much

1562
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 12: effort they need to put in. I will say this,

1563
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 12: a lot of our daughter daughters seem to work harder.

1564
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 9: Than the Well, yeah, I don't have any boars, but yeah,

1565
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 9: I just like, hey, you know, you got to go

1566
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 9: get it, like, you know, like and I'm like, hey,

1567
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 9: you know, I always use one of her friends and

1568
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 9: somebody compare her with like like hey, you know she

1569
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 9: you know what she's just because she she putting in

1570
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 9: an extra work. So we definitely do extra work at

1571
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 9: the house, you know, like is it going with another

1572
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 9: you know, with a train or whatever and track or

1573
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 9: a volleyball. So I always get us some extra help

1574
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 9: and then I make her do something work on her

1575
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 9: own as well.

1576
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 12: You know, that makes me feel better when you said

1577
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 12: you bring up someone else who's successful. There have been

1578
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 12: times where I've been at the gym and I'll see

1579
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 12: one of my kids teammates working out by themselves. I'll

1580
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 12: take a picture of them, yeah and say, what are

1581
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 12: you doing your teammates are working out? Yeah, I'm like

1582
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 12: I'm big on that, you know.

1583
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1584
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 9: We throw little jabs at the house, like hey for

1585
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 9: you your friend. You know, we just throw little jazz

1586
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 9: to kind of get at them. But you know, you know,

1587
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 9: you do it just to kind of motivate them. And

1588
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 9: you know, getting ready for real world because stuffs gonna happen.

1589
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 9: People not gonna have your best interests all the time.

1590
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 9: Everybody not gonna have your interests, not everybody. So you

1591
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 9: just get you know, get ready for the real world.

1592
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 9: Real world.

1593
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 12: All right, Speaking of the real world, Uh, you left

1594
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 12: a locker room full of men and now you're in

1595
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 12: a house full of women.

1596
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,839
Speaker 9: Man, I don't win no battles at the house. Whatever

1597
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 9: they say, rude goes.

1598
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1599
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 9: Man, it's kind of cool though. That's to be in

1600
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 9: the house with all girls. I guess, you know, I

1601
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 9: grew up it was me and my brother, my mom

1602
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 9: and dad. So my mom would they just had boys,

1603
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 9: but you know it's it's you know, you know, with girls,

1604
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 9: you can't be like you just gotta talk to him different.

1605
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 9: But you could say certain stuff to him, they they'll

1606
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 9: feel they'll start crying, you know, so you got their

1607
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 9: real sensitive emotional so you just got to watch what

1608
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 9: you say. And unlike a boy. I mean, I can

1609
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 9: imagine having a boy.

1610
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 7: He was.

1611
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 9: Sap across his head, you know. But yeah, it's cool though.

1612
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: It's funny. Fellow O G.

1613
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 12: Travis Johnson. We used to all coach our archids together.

1614
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 12: The way he lays into little Doucy.

1615
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was that. We did a Junior Olympus last year.

1616
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 9: I felt uncomfort I left. But you know what's awesome

1617
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 9: about it. He doesn't face his son one big all.

1618
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 9: This is why we call him Deucy Travis. This is

1619
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 9: why he's gonna be successful. Right at one point we're

1620
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 9: all coaching and he's laying into Doocy and.

1621
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: Travis, I got it. Don't tell me how to talk.

1622
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 12: But like his son, who was an awesome kid, he's like,

1623
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 12: he's gonna be successful because he's not going to be

1624
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 12: one of these people where if somebody talks crazy. My

1625
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 12: dad told me that every morning, Like so it was

1626
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 12: just funny, you know, as you and I kind of

1627
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 12: talk and reflect on that and for you to say

1628
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 12: you were so uncomfortable you left, that's our boy, Travis.

1629
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 9: But listen, that's what it's all about. Like I remember

1630
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 9: going in today's like after the game, you know, you

1631
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 9: watch video film and you know you like trying to

1632
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 9: embrace yourself. You messed up on play, you'd be like,

1633
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 9: you're not scared. You know, you just embarrassed more than anything.

1634
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 9: You be in a sweating it goes. Then the coaches

1635
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 9: rip you. But you know you can handle NFL meeting room.

1636
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 9: You can handle real world anything. You don't get no

1637
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 9: tougher than that.

1638
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 12: If guys leverage their experience in NFL or even Division

1639
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 12: one football, it can really carry you through life. Because

1640
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 12: look between coaches watching film when you mess up in

1641
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 12: your whole team, guys that you respect seeing it, but

1642
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 12: coach is getting after you. In the locker room. You

1643
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 12: can survive those three things. Ye world, you can make

1644
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 12: it in the real world. I agree, Yeah, that that

1645
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 12: locker room. And it's funny, you know when we talk

1646
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 12: about some of the things we miss the most. For me,

1647
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 12: it's the locker room and the flight home after a victory.

1648
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, like the victory Monday victory you know you can

1649
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 9: be off. Yeah, yeah, that's always awesome. But yeah, let's fly.

1650
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 9: That's like a good feeling, like you win and you're

1651
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 9: flying back and you eating lobster steak.

1652
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 12: On the plane and just enjoying, like we put in

1653
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 12: a full week's worth. Because when you lose, man, it's

1654
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 12: like walking on eggs.

1655
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 9: Come on, you know, you're like, man, it's like yes, yes,

1656
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 9: it's a different yeah, everybody, man, and it come down

1657
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 9: on you normally the players.

1658
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1659
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's why you can't wait to get back

1660
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 12: on the field, just to try to get rid of that, uh,

1661
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 12: you know, get rid of that feeling. I remember there

1662
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 12: was a time when I was in Washington. We started

1663
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 12: off Owens Evan when you say, uh, you know when

1664
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 12: you talk about just walking around on eggshells and the

1665
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 12: coaches and at that time, I was very young in

1666
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 12: the game, so I really looked up to the coaches

1667
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 12: and you start to see them stressing and you know,

1668
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 12: doing things that they shouldn't be doing. Yeah, it was

1669
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 12: a tough time. So yeah, it's something that you had

1670
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 12: to bounce back. How was Kansas because Kansas program is

1671
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 12: getting better? Oh yeah, we three and oh I didn't realize, y'all.

1672
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 9: I'm here to tell you three and oh yeah. Hopefully

1673
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 9: by the end of the year, I'll be saying we

1674
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 9: ten and something. They went to boat something to take

1675
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 9: it out. They went to bowl last year. Uh, it's

1676
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 9: in Memphis. They went to the Memphis Bowl, I forget

1677
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 9: the name of it, and they played you n l V.

1678
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 9: Did they play?

1679
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: Know?

1680
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 9: They played Arkansas'm sorry, they played Arkansas and they went

1681
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 9: into four overtimes. Oh wow, and they lost. But we

1682
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 9: hadn't been to a bowl game from that year since

1683
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 9: a while, so we were rolling. They three and oh

1684
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 9: this year and man, they turned in the program around

1685
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 9: up there, like significantly, and it's looking promising up there.

1686
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: It is looking very promising in Lawrence, Kansas, no doubt

1687
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: about that. Big thanks to Miran Norris and of course

1688
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 2: to our good friend Indie Clue. I heard, I heard, uh,

1689
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: I think with Seana set talking about that. How end

1690
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 2: has been a great addition to the crew.

1691
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: Man, you're kidding.

1692
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,919
Speaker 2: He's been an awesome edition, great friend, great on the mike, excellent,

1693
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: excellent Texans.

1694
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: OG's a little bit more of that.

1695
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: So if you want to go to Houston, Texas, Dot

1696
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: com to our podcast page you can hear the rest

1697
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: of that Texas OG podcast with Moran Norris and of

1698
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: course our host and.

1699
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Speaker 1: Buddy N D Clue. We get back.

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01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: It's Men behind the Mike's two men I know very well,

1701
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: Marvan Demer of course, and Frank Frangie, the voice.

1702
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: Of the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome back to Wednesday edition of Texas

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: All Access.

1705
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: I am John Harris, football analyst, sadein reporter, and my

1706
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 2: first job.

1707
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: Was in Jacksonville, Florida. I was.

1708
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: Eventually head football coach, calculus teacher, and assist athletic director

1709
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: Episcopal High School.

1710
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: And while I was there, the.

1711
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: Longtime sports talk show host Frank Franchi. I got a

1712
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: chance to meet love the man, just such a great individual,

1713
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: and eventually he became the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1714
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: And so when it becomes men behind the MIC's time

1715
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 2: when Mark vandermer sits down with the voice of the team.

1716
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: Always loved this because it's two of my great friends

1717
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: sharing the mic and talking about their teams.

1718
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: This great stuff, this Mark and Frank, it's men behind.

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 4: The mics joining us now Texans Radio. It's the voice

1720
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 4: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Frank Frangi joining us and Frank,

1721
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 4: great to have you with us. Let me start here,

1722
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 4: my friend, last Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. Are

1723
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 4: the Chiefs that good on defense? Or was it just

1724
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 4: one of those clunker days for the Jaguars on offense?

1725
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 7: Mark, great to be with you, man, Thanks for having

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01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 7: me on. Look forward to seeing you this week. I

1727
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 7: well both both the matchup. The Chiefs are very good

1728
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 7: on the defensive front. Chris Jones came back and played

1729
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 7: great derreck not he's a guy that doesn't get enough

1730
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 7: attention market. You probably know he's a really good defensive tackle.

1731
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 7: And the jag struggled up front. It was more it

1732
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 7: was more the trenches where the Jags couldn't get him blocked.

1733
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 7: It was more that as much as it was really

1734
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 7: anything else. The inability to block them. I think probably

1735
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 7: had more to do with that than anything else. Jaggs

1736
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 7: are struggling on the offensive front. They'll get it fixed.

1737
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 7: He's a good coach, but they're struggling right now along

1738
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 7: the offensive front. Mark, that's the big thing right now.

1739
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 7: They got to figure out a way to get them blocked.

1740
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: Now, I wouldn't know anything about that, by the way,

1741
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 4: but let's focus on the Jacks. Shalli, What are you

1742
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 4: seeing in Trevor Lawrence? I mean here he is a mature,

1743
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 4: an older, wiser Trevor Lawrence. It's not like he's the

1744
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: old man on the siage just yet. But he's been

1745
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 4: around this league for a while. Here he is in

1746
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 4: year three. What are you seeing?

1747
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 7: He is going to be fine. He's ready for a

1748
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 7: big year. Twenty five touchdowns, eight picks last year. I

1749
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 7: think he's evolving as one of the good young quarterbacks

1750
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 7: in the league. This week he was frustrated, or last

1751
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 7: couple of days ago, he was frustrated. Mark, he just was.

1752
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 7: It was again, when you never have a clean pocket,

1753
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 7: you're moving around, it's hard to find a rhythm. They

1754
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 7: never could find a rhythm off And you've seen that game.

1755
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 7: We've all seen it enough that when the pocket's not

1756
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 7: clean and you're flushed and then you're flushed out, you're

1757
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 7: having to throw the ball away and then you think

1758
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 7: the pocket's there and then it collapses at the last minute.

1759
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 7: All of a sudden, nobody's in a rhythm. The receivers

1760
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 7: are frustrated because when they do get open, the ball

1761
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 7: doesn't come to them because the quarterback doesn't have time.

1762
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 7: It was that game. It was a little bit that

1763
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 7: way against the Colts. Again, the Forest Butner and Grover

1764
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 7: Stewart are really good players. You just saw them. The

1765
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 7: Colts won't have a great team, but they're good up front.

1766
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 7: So I think two games now the Jags have had

1767
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 7: a difficult time up front, and I think that's affected Trevor.

1768
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 7: But Trevor's going to be fine. He's a he's an

1769
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 7: easy going guy. He's built for this. We all think

1770
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 7: he's getting the big contract that probably happens after this year.

1771
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 7: So I think Trevor is going to be just fine.

1772
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 7: I really believe Mark he's going to be one of

1773
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 7: the better young quarterbacks in the league right now. Though

1774
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 7: they got to get the protection figured out.

1775
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: Rank Franzie Boyce of the Jacksonville Jaguars with us, what

1776
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 4: about Travis etn As He really took over last year,

1777
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 4: started to show what he could do. What's he showing

1778
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: you this year so far? What are your expectations the

1779
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: rest of the way, Frank.

1780
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 7: Expectations are very high. He had a big run at

1781
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 7: the end of the Coast game to kind of put

1782
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 7: that away at twenty six. Sure, a touchdown run Mark,

1783
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 7: same thing. He's got to find some holes again. Again.

1784
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 7: I sound like a broken record, but until they blocked better,

1785
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 7: none of those guys are going to play as well

1786
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 7: as they should. To your question about expectations, I think

1787
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 7: he's a really good back and the fact that they

1788
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 7: drafted Tank Bigsby will help him. Tank Bigsby's a big

1789
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 7: third round guy, Mark, big physical, two hundred and fifteen

1790
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 7: pounds downhill runner that he can be their short yardage guy.

1791
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 7: I think that'll save some wear and tear on Travis

1792
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 7: tpn's legs a little bit. I don't think he'll be

1793
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 7: asked to do quite as much, so I think that

1794
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 7: helps the cause. But I think Traft's gonna have a

1795
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 7: big year. He really came on in the middle of

1796
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 7: last year. They get the they get the offensive line

1797
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 7: stuff sorted out. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't

1798
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 7: have another big year. I mean, fourteen hundred total yards

1799
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 7: last year, and I think he's going to go north

1800
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 7: with that this year.

1801
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: Rank It's clear that Ridley was a good addition for

1802
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 4: this team the way he broke out in Week one,

1803
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 4: So he's the big day week one, Kirk has the

1804
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 4: big day week two. Who's the number one guy? Who's

1805
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 4: the number one receiver for the Jaguars.

1806
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 7: I think it will be Ridley Kirk is k They're

1807
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 7: totally different, and I know you know this. Ridley's what

1808
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 7: we haven't had here, and that's an explosive, take the

1809
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 7: top off the defense receiver and that's what he's been.

1810
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 7: You got to watch DeAndre Hopkins all those years. How

1811
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 7: complete he is, what a complete player he is. We

1812
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 7: haven't had that. We haven't had that since Jimmy Smith's

1813
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 7: mark in the nineties, right, but but this guy is complete.

1814
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley takes the top off a defense. He's got

1815
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 7: the twitchiness, he's got the straight ahead speed, so he

1816
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 7: changes how teams have to defend them. He had the

1817
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 7: big game of the first game. Well, obviously, now everyone's

1818
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 7: worried about Calvin Ridley running by them. That opens up

1819
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 7: the middle of the field. Christian Kirk's a slot receiver

1820
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 7: and a really good one. He works the middle of

1821
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 7: the field. He's gonna play out of the slot most

1822
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 7: of the time and when that defense is softened up

1823
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 7: a little bit, then there's going to be opportunities for

1824
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 7: he and Evan Ingram underneath. But I think if you

1825
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 7: ask which at the end of the year, who's going

1826
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 7: to have the most catches in the most yards, my

1827
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 7: guest would Calvin Ridley because he's different. He's got stuff here,

1828
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 7: a twitchiness, a burst that the other receivers not only here,

1829
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 7: don't have. But there's not a whole lot of guys

1830
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 7: in the league that have.

1831
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: They really are The Texans had a lot of trouble

1832
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 4: running against the Colts front. Now what about Fotokasi, Roy Robertson, Harris,

1833
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 4: everybody else they have in that front seven. What do

1834
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: you think the running opportunities are like against the Jaguars.

1835
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 7: I'm telling you the defense has been good. Mark the front.

1836
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 7: They lost to Von Hamilton, who they lost in the preseason,

1837
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 7: their nose guard, who just signed a big contract. He's

1838
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 7: a big, three hundred and thirty pound two gap guy.

1839
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 7: So I was fearful they would be that would really

1840
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 7: hurt them, and maybe ultimately it will. But they've moved

1841
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 7: Patakasi to the nose, They've moved him inside. Adam Gotsis

1842
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 7: now starts opposite Roberts and Harrison. Is that there are

1843
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 7: three to four teams, so the other tackler and if

1844
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 7: you will, is now Gota. They've played pretty well. They've

1845
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 7: played with a tough The big question coming into this

1846
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 7: season was, look, they're going to be really good on offense.

1847
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 7: They they're gonna flyle over the place to score about

1848
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 7: the points, but can they hold up defensively? Well, the

1849
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 7: first two games has been just the opposite the offense

1850
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 7: because of again because of a line that's struggling a

1851
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 7: little bit. The offense hasn't found its way, and the

1852
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 7: defense has been very good. They just telled Patrick Mahomes

1853
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 7: to seventeen points. That's the second fewest points the Kansas

1854
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 7: City Chiefs have scored with him as a starter. Think

1855
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 7: about that for a second. All those games, the second

1856
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 7: fewest points they've ever scored with him as a starter

1857
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 7: was the seventeen points they got Sunday against Jacksonville. So

1858
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 7: the line, the defense has been pretty good. They've played

1859
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 7: with a toughness. They've played with an awareness that back

1860
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 7: end's gotten better. So I'm really pleased with the defense.

1861
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 7: They've got to get the offense.

1862
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 4: Go all right, give me one or two guys either

1863
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 4: side of the ball that really nobody's talking about outside

1864
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 4: of the market maybe or maybe even in the market,

1865
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 4: that we should be aware of that deserve more pub.

1866
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 7: Let me give you a couple of defensive guys, because

1867
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 7: the defense is playing well. They've got a strong safety

1868
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 7: here name Andre Cisco. He came from Syracuse Mark. He

1869
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 7: had thirteen interceptions in college. That's a lot of interceptions, right,

1870
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 7: He had thirteen, so we know he's a ball hog.

1871
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 7: He had a big interception on Mahomes last week. Should

1872
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 7: have had two. He broke on him, made a great

1873
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 7: break on the ball and jumped forward just it went

1874
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,839
Speaker 7: off his hands. Should have had two. He's fast, he's physical,

1875
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 7: he's maybe the best hitter on the defense. So he's

1876
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 7: a really good safety. He and ray Seann Jenkins. I

1877
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 7: put that safety combination against just about anybody. I think

1878
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 7: that's one. The other guy that never gets talked about

1879
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 7: here is Foyer Leuicon, the middle linebacker, the inside linebacker.

1880
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 7: He's led the league in tackles two years running. If

1881
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 7: you leave the league in tackles, you probably should get

1882
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 7: more attention than you're getting so the inside linebacker, Lolicon's

1883
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 7: a good player, Andre Cisco the safety. But I'm telling you, overall,

1884
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 7: defensively they've played really well. Offensively, nobody's found their stride yet.

1885
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you know who our guys are here.

1886
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 7: You watch Kirk and Dave Jones. Dave Jones is probably

1887
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 7: the one guy that doesn't get the attention that Kirk

1888
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 7: and Ridley and Evan Ingram get. But right now they've

1889
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 7: got to find themselves offensively. It's been a defensive football

1890
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 7: team so far.

1891
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: Frank, what do you think of the division? I know

1892
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: the Jaguars are favored to repeat, but you've seen the Colts.

1893
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 4: Now you're prepping for the Texans, and we saw what

1894
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 4: the Titans did last weekend bouncing back beating the Chargers

1895
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 4: after an opening weekend lost. Thoughts on the AFC South lately,

1896
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 4: I think.

1897
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 7: It's a better division than people thought it was going

1898
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 7: to be. That's my and I'm not just saying that

1899
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 7: because we're in it. I think it's a better division.

1900
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 7: First of all, the Jag the Jags should be the

1901
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 7: team to be. I don't know if we'll hold up,

1902
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 7: but I think going in that makes all the sense

1903
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 7: one the division last year have a lot of guys back,

1904
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 7: almost the entire teams back from last year, so that

1905
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,799
Speaker 7: makes a lot of sense. But I think the Titans

1906
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 7: are always a tough out. They're tough. Mike Brabls a

1907
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 7: really good coach, Mark you know this. They play with

1908
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 7: that toughness about them. They've got to get a good

1909
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 7: quarterback Bay because Tanny Hill is a veteran guy now,

1910
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 7: but they play with a toughness. And I think the

1911
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 7: two young quarterbacks are going to be really good. I

1912
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 7: think Anthony Richardson a little bit. He's got to stay

1913
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 7: on the field. He's being knocked out of both games now,

1914
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 7: but I think he's going to be a good young quarterback.

1915
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 7: And I love I think I told you this is

1916
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 7: the draft.

1917
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 10: C J.

1918
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 7: Stroud was my favorite player in the draft, more than

1919
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 7: Bryce Young, more than Richardson. I thought, See, I think

1920
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 7: I told you this. I had during our off week

1921
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 7: last year. I still do some college games. So during

1922
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 7: our off week last year, I called the Ohio State.

1923
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 7: Maryland hired me to do it, and I wanted to

1924
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 7: do a college game. And I watched him and it

1925
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 7: was a good game because Taliah tongue of Ioloa, the

1926
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 7: younger brother of Tua, the quarterback of Maryland is really

1927
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 7: good too. Mark. I think it was like a thirty

1928
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 7: eight to thirty five. It was one of those games.

1929
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 7: But I thought c. J. Stroud looked as poised, in

1930
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 7: seasoned and is ready for the NFL that any quarterback

1931
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 7: I had seen in college in a long time. And

1932
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 7: so I'm not surprised you too, for all those yards

1933
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 7: last week. I think he can play. I think he's

1934
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 7: going to be a good player. So I think this

1935
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 7: division is going to be good. I think you're going

1936
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 7: to live up in two or three years, and this

1937
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 7: division is going to have Trevor Lawrence and c. J.

1938
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 7: Stroud and Anthony Richardson and whoever the Titans ultimately played quarterback,

1939
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 7: is it Will Levice, is it whoever? I think it's

1940
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 7: going to be a good division. So I don't think

1941
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 7: the division and nearly as down as some others.

1942
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 4: You get Frank Francie voice of the Jaguars with us

1943
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 4: Frank As you look at the AFC and you look

1944
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 4: at Rogers not available for the Jets, you look at

1945
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 4: the first couple of weeks, it's really early, But do

1946
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 4: you think it's a little more wide open than we

1947
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 4: originally thought. What's happening to the Bengals and of course

1948
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 4: the Chiefs they lost opening weekend. You held them to seventeen.

1949
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 4: I know you didn't score, but you held them to seventeen.

1950
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: Thoughts on the AFC.

1951
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 7: Here's what's interesting mark about it. We looked at the

1952
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 7: league as a high flying circus act. Right, Mahomes was

1953
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 7: going to throw for all these yards, and Joe Burrow

1954
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 7: was going to go for all these yards, and Josh

1955
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 7: Allen was going to sow for all these yards than Trevor. Well,

1956
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 7: those four quarterbacks have not gotten going yet. So think

1957
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 7: about that. Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence and Patrick Mahomes

1958
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 7: and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and whatever order you

1959
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 7: had those guys in. Those are the big armed quarterbacks

1960
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 7: of the AFC, right, and none of them have found

1961
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 7: their footing. Lamar Jackson's probably played better than any back

1962
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 7: so far. So if it's not going to be this

1963
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 7: big offensive shootout in the AFC like I kind of

1964
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 7: thought it was, and there's more toughness and more defense

1965
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 7: in more seventeen to thirteen games, then I think it

1966
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 7: is wide open. That's what makes it more wide open

1967
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,919
Speaker 7: is the teams with the big arm quarterbacks don't necessarily

1968
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 7: win the whole time. No lookus early too. That sample

1969
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 7: sizes two weeks, right, But I'm a little surprised that

1970
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 7: there hasn't been more offense. And I think if there's

1971
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 7: not more passing offense, that brings way more teams into

1972
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 7: the fray. So it's gonna be a fun AFC to

1973
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 7: watch for sure.

1974
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 4: How do you think the game plays out on Sunday?

1975
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 4: Not a prediction, but the kind of game we're going

1976
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 4: to see between the Jaguars and the Texans.

1977
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 7: I think the question is going to be whichever one

1978
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 7: can find the offense, can find the running game, can

1979
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 7: find the trenches, because neither one of them are winning

1980
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 7: the trench battles yet. The Jaguar one and one, the

1981
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 7: Texans zero and two, but neither one of them has

1982
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 7: kind of found that has found that footing as far

1983
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 7: as running the football and toughness up front offensively, So

1984
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 7: I think the team that does that will be in

1985
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 7: the best shape. The Jaguar are nine point favorite, but

1986
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 7: that doesn't always matter, right. I think the Texans are

1987
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 7: a team because you play playing such a young quarterback,

1988
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 7: and I got I think it's going to be a

1989
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 7: good quarterback will continue to get bad. They will improve.

1990
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 7: Teams with young quarterbacks. Young good quarterbacks tend to improve

1991
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 7: very quickly. We saw it with Jacksonville last year. We

1992
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 7: saw it with Burrow there. So I think the Texans

1993
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 7: and the Coat will improve quickly. So I would think

1994
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 7: the Jagger at home, they're a motivated team that they

1995
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 7: took that loss hard last week. They're probably the better

1996
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 7: of the two teams this week. I don't think anybody

1997
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 7: with doubt that. But I respect what I think the

1998
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 7: Texans are doing, and so I don't think it's a blowout.

1999
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 7: I think it's a good game. I think it's a

2000
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 7: third quarter game, maybe a fourth quarter game. I think

2001
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 7: it's always fun with these two teams play it always.

2002
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 7: They know each other well, they like playing each other.

2003
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 7: We all know each other. I love it when the

2004
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 7: Texans and Jag get together, and I'd be surprised if

2005
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 7: it's not a pretty good game.

2006
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 4: With college football, question for you, Frank, because I know

2007
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 4: you do the local show, you cover the SEC, you

2008
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 4: cover all of college football very closely. Who's the best

2009
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 4: team in the country. Really, you know.

2010
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 7: It's funny. It's the teams that were supposed to be

2011
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 7: the best. I would have said Georgia before the year.

2012
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 7: Georgia has been just okay by their standard. I would

2013
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 7: have said Florida State a week ago, because the Noles

2014
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 7: have got to build back up, and boy, they sput

2015
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 7: it around and almost lost to BC. So I'm not

2016
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 7: sure there is good I'm not sure Ohio State beats

2017
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 7: Notre Dame this week. So if you ask, the one

2018
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 7: team that I think can outscore everybody is USC. So

2019
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 7: if you give me one. If you ask me to

2020
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 7: pick a national champion today, it might have been different

2021
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 7: a week ago, Mark, and it might be different next week.

2022
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 7: But if you asked me to pick a national championship today,

2023
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 7: I'd say USC because I don't think anybody can score

2024
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 7: with them. I think they can even get in the

2025
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 7: game with Georgia or LSU or Ohio State and can

2026
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 7: get in the forties. And if you can get in

2027
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 7: the forties in a game like that, it's going to

2028
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 7: be hard to keep up. So give me a USC

2029
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 7: this week, but I reserve the right to change it

2030
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 7: next week. Mark. That's where I am a college football.

2031
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 4: That's the beauty of it all. Frank, thanks so much

2032
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you

2033
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 4: on Sunday.

2034
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 7: Okay, Mark, look forward to it. Thanks Buddy.

2035
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: I love that after all the years that Frank's been

2036
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: calling games for the Jaguars, he had a season or

2037
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: could have a season like last year where they were

2038
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: able to take that to divisional round, had that great

2039
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: playoff victory. But on Sunday, I hope we beat Jacksonville,

2040
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: as you know what. That would be awesome. Looking forward

2041
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 2: to that, and there'll be some.

2042
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: Players to watch. Drew and I talked about that in

2043
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the Lab.

2044
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 2: That's next to finish up right here on Texans All

2045
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: Access we go on final segment of this edition to

2046
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am

2047
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: John Harris Football and Outside of the Reporter and one

2048
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: half of the In the Lab podcast with my man

2049
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 2: Drew Doherty.

2050
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 1: So here we go, players to watch key players on Sunday.

2051
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Let's rock.

2052
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 10: You're under the radar, Texan you gotta lookout for on Sunday.

2053
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 5: Who's it gonna be for you?

2054
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 3: Well?

2055
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 2: I think this is you could wrap this into the

2056
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: most important Texan on Sunday, the one I'm watching the

2057
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: most focal point.

2058
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 3: It's Malik Collins.

2059
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: All right, Milie Collins, and you could say the defensive interior,

2060
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: but just Malie Collins in general.

2061
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: That guy can disrupt the game completely and totally. But

2062
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: that was not what happened on Sunday. From anybody up front.

2063
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 2: And the way this Jacksonville Jaguar team can throw it,

2064
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: you need some pressure at Trevor Lawrence's feet. The way

2065
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 2: it can run it, You've got to be good in

2066
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: your fits. But to be good in your fits, the

2067
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: guys up front can't be knocked off the ball. They

2068
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: can't not get off double teams, can't not get off blocks.

2069
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 2: There are so many things that they've got to do.

2070
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say Malik Collins, he's faced this Jacksonville team,

2071
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: you know, since he's been here in twenty twenty one,

2072
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: so it's to be the fifth time. And I know

2073
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: it's been a little different from twenty one to twenty two,

2074
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a lot of similarities from last

2075
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: year to this year. The defensive line has got to

2076
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,440
Speaker 2: take its play up to where it was against Baltimore

2077
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: and put them in passing situations. And now you're not

2078
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: facing Trevor, you're not facing Lamar Jackson, You're facing Trevor Lawrence.

2079
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Now Trevor can move.

2080
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: So you can't just be willy nilly going after a guy.

2081
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: But it's not Lamar, and it's the guy you've seen before,

2082
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: and so you've got to frustrate him and make his

2083
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: life as miserable as possible.

2084
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: And to me, that gotta start with Malie Collins.

2085
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 10: I like Itik is Milik is bound to do some

2086
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 10: big things. Hey, you know, Texans won in Jacksonville last year.

2087
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 10: Jags got the game here. That was the first Jacksonville

2088
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 10: win against the Texans since their last home win against

2089
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 10: the Texans, which was in twenty seventeen. Remember way way

2090
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 10: back in twenty ten, middle of the season, you're tied

2091
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 10: up closing moments of the ball game, You're at Jacksonville.

2092
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 5: They throw a Hail Mary.

2093
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 10: Our guy Glover Quinn swats it down as he's been coached,

2094
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 10: but it just happened to be swatted right into the

2095
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 10: arms of Michael Thomas. He gets in the end zone.

2096
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 10: That's a touchdown. Jaguars win. That one pushed them all time.

2097
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 10: I think to a game better than the Texans in

2098
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 10: the all time series. Since then, so we're talking middle

2099
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 10: of twenty ten, they've won five games against Texans. They

2100
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 10: swept in thirteen, they swept in seventeen, and they won

2101
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 10: last year the final game. Texans have won every other

2102
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 10: single game they have domin. They're up I think fifteen

2103
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 10: twenty games now in the series. That's really remarkable.

2104
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

2105
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 10: One of the guys who was responsible for a lot

2106
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 10: of those wins was Andre Johnson.

2107
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 7: You know it. I know it.

2108
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 5: Most of you listening to this know it.

2109
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 10: But john for the love of whoever, in five seconds

2110
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 10: or more, excuse me, in five seconds or less, why

2111
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 10: does Andre Johnson belong in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

2112
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Because he was in a period of dominance, not playing

2113
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: with the Peyton Manning and not take anything with the quarterbacks.

2114
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: But he didn't play with the Peyton Manning or Eli

2115
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 2: Manning or any of those kind of quarterbacks.

2116
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady.

2117
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: He did it all for a franchise and everybody knew

2118
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 2: he was getting a football and they still couldn't stop it.

2119
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

2120
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 1: I tried to talk it as short as I could.

2121
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 10: I trust great, that works, you know, you talk to

2122
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 10: anybody that played against him and played with him, certainly,

2123
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 10: and they all they scoff when you ask the question.

2124
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 10: Of course he belongs to all the profoball Hall of Fames.

2125
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 10: So ye, let's hope this happens. It The vote will

2126
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 10: be Super Bowl weekend, so we got a long ways.

2127
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 10: It's gonna be in February. But yeah, Andre belongs you

2128
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 10: know what.

2129
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: I know it.

2130
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 10: Those of you listening know it. And we will talk

2131
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 10: about that a few more times in between now and then.

2132
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 10: But John, it's always good to do in the lab

2133
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 10: with you. And I thank you for your time, my friend.

2134
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, good time, Drew, thank you, Yeah, I said

2135
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: earlier with Mark. I went back and watched the game

2136
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: pretty much in full. It probably took me about five hours.

2137
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: I think I fell asleep with the Microsoft Surface on

2138
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 2: my on my stomach as I was watching it, just

2139
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: laying on a couch.

2140
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Also, I woke up like what why is this?

2141
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, I was watching the game, so

2142
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 2: uh yeah, And it wasn't so much the game put

2143
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 2: me to sleep.

2144
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Just days and months of exhaustion got it took over.

2145
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 2: But if anything is gonna happen, good for the Texans

2146
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

2147
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: It's got to start up front.

2148
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: It absolutely, without question, has to start up front and defensively,

2149
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 2: but actually both sides. But I said earlier, the offensive

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Speaker 2: line was not. It was not as much of an

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Speaker 2: issue as I know a lot of people want to

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Speaker 2: believe if people are really watching that without bias, and

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Speaker 2: I try to, I don't know that I would tell

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Speaker 2: you everything that's gone wrong, you know, publicly. Privately I might,

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Speaker 2: but publicly I won't. But defensively, there wasn't that that thought.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line got to do a better job. Dimik O

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Speaker 2: Ryan's talked about that linebackers got to do a better job.

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Speaker 2: That front seven's got to do a better job of

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Speaker 2: containing the run, keeping you know, explosive run plays, quarterback

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Speaker 2: runs and look, Trevor's not gonna get out of the

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Speaker 2: pocket and run a ton, but he can do it

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Speaker 2: enough to scare you.

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Speaker 1: And that worries me, man, That worries me a lot.

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Speaker 2: So Malie Collins to me, is definitely a guy that

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Speaker 2: has got to take his his play up. I think

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Speaker 2: there were when I went back and watch it again,

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Speaker 2: I felt like there were some times that, all right,

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Speaker 2: we left some plays out here on the field.

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Speaker 1: Maybe didn't follow our coverage rules.

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Speaker 2: At times in the passing game, but to have no

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Speaker 2: we have one hit on the quarterback, and I believe

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Speaker 2: that was the first play of the game.

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Speaker 1: That's when I saw what I thought would be a

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Speaker 1: quarterback hit. I thought there was maybe one other, but

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Speaker 1: they were both from Will Anderson. That can't be the case.

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Speaker 2: This is not a tremendous Jacksonville offensive line, not tremendous all.

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Speaker 2: They got a rookie overt right tackle Cam Robinson's been

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Speaker 2: out like a walker little for Episcopals. Actually played all

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Speaker 2: right from Piscol High School right down the road here.

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Speaker 2: So it's been a an up and down unit. Fortner

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Speaker 2: at center, BArch at guard. It's just it's not a

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Speaker 2: tremendous group. This defensive line has really got to take

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Speaker 2: over and put pressure on Trevor Lawrence and see if

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Speaker 2: he'll throw you one. He threw us one last year,

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Speaker 2: Dick Thing. We got his first career interception in that game,

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Speaker 2: and it was big in the end zone. That's we

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Speaker 2: got to have happened. But it all starts up front,

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Speaker 2: and we can talk about CJ throwing the ball around

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Speaker 2: all that we don't win into the trenches. We're not

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Speaker 2: winning this game down in Duval County. I could promise

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Speaker 2: you that, but hopefully we can do that on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow with Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: to General will join us tomorrow, so definitely tune into that.

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Speaker 2: A big thanks to everybody participated in this show. Nick Cassario,

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermir of course, Dbcity, Nicocllans.

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 2: We had Frank Frangie at Moran Norris, our buddy in

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Speaker 2: the Klue run Texans Ogs and I think I hope,

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Speaker 2: I said Drew Doherty in all of you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, my guys back at six ten.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow body, and as always, go Texans,