1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Clay in Israel, Buck in Florida. So we are international, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: We're global today, my friends, but we want to focus 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: in here on the homeland for this next few moments. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: We've got Donald Trump over the weekend laying out some plans. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: And let me just note I'm not the only one 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: who is seeing it this way, Clay. I think a 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of people are getting the sense that the left 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: is on its heels. The Democrats are on their back 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: feet in a way that I don't know if we've 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: ever seen them like this. Twenty sixteen, they had that Trump, 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: they had that Trump surprise win, right they were in 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a shock, in a frenzy and crying and you know, 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: panic rooms and everything else that Democrats had cry rooms. 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: But they immediately launched you I remember there were marches 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: in the street. Not my President was what they were screaming. 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: And you know who streets are streets and we are 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: the resistance, and right away they leapt into this mania 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: of anti trump Ism. Right now, there's almost a deafening silence, 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's kind of just like, uh, you know, 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Morning Joe could be any local news broadcast and a 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: lot of kind of mid tier markets across the country. 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: And I'm just waiting for going to be like, oh, like, 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: look at this story about the ducks that got lost 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: on their way through the storm train. You know, really 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: kind of just this is like silly, it's not really 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: not really what it was at all before. And MSNBC, 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: CNN are reeling Christopher Ruffo, who is if there was 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: going to be a DEI zar for the government, I 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: think Rufo would be the guy to get that job 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: under Trump. Maybe maybe that's an idea for Trump, but 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Rufo tweeted out, now is the time for a blitz 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: through the institutions. The left is exhausted, BLM is shattered, 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: trans is imploding. Trump has a mandate to abolish DEI, 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: defund left wing racialism, and restore public authority over the 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: public institutions. The counter revolution starts now. I think he 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely spot on with this play. And part of 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: this is to really try to do major things here, 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: major things to change our immigration enforcement. Right, That's really 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: what this comes down to, Trump said over the weekend, 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and I got to say this is this is even 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: more of a shot across the bow for the open 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: borders Democrats and the open borders Republicans than to build 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: the wall stuff. In some ways, Trump is saying it 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: is his plan to end birthright citizenship. This has cut eight. 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Let's hear what he said over the weekend to whatever 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: network Kristen Welker works for play it. 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Can you promised to end birthright citizenship on day one? 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: Is that still your plan? 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 2: The fourteenth Amendment, though, says that quote all persons born 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: in the United States are citizens. Can you get around 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment with a change? 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: Will maybe have to go back to the people. But 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: we have to end it with the only country that 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: has it. 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: You're an executive action. You're with the only country that 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: has it. 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: Do you know if somebody sets a foot, just a. 60 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: Foot, one foot, you don't need to on our land. 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: Congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States 62 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: of Americillas. 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: We're going to end that because it's ridiculous nor executive action. 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: Well, if we can't through executive action, I was going 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: to do it through executive action, but then we had 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: to fix COVID first. To be honest with you, we 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: have to end it. 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Clay, I agree, it has to be ended. There's a 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: huge problem with the way the law is currently enforced 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: because or way it's set up. If you set up 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: a birth tourism hotel, and this is common in California, 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and generally it's East Asians who have been engaged in 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, four national East Asians who've been engaged in this. 74 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: That's a crime. If you are engaged in a sham marriage. 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Also to try to get a green corp that is 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a crime. I mean, these are federal crimes. But if 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: you come here legally have a child here, you are 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: rewarded with citizenship. This needs to be taken up by 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and this is going to be a 80 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: heck of a fight if they do it. 81 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, So let me go ahead and dive into my 82 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: lawyer analysis, because yes, Trump should take executive action on this, 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 5: and he should say that it is the opinion of 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: the United States government's executive, the President, that there is 85 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 5: no right to birthright citizenship, and it will go to 86 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: the Supreme Court. That's the truth of where it would go. 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: Kristen Welker says, oh, the fourteenth Amendment says, yes, that's true. 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: But the Fourteenth Amendment was written to ensure that slaves 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 5: were citizens. So it has never been applied to what 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: you said, which is the illegal entrigue of someone to 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 5: then create a birthright citizen ship. I don't know what 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: the Supreme Court will say. No one knows what the 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: Supreme Court will say. But this has never been decided 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: in American law. And so I've said for a long time, 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: you can put up a wall, you can do whatever 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: you would like to try to restrict the flow of 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: illegal immigration. You're never going to be able to completely 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 5: stop it. I just don't think you can, because the 99 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: incentive structure is dual. One is you're going to get 100 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 5: a situation where everybody makes more money if they come 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: into the United States. That's one incentive. A second incentive 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: is your kids can become citizens. If we end birthright citizenship, 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 5: that takes that away. Let me also give you a 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 5: little bit of how I would analyze this as a 105 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: Supreme Court justice. Do you know why the idea of 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: birthright citizenship even exists in the United States? Trump is 107 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 5: right that it's rare. You don't become a citizen in China. 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: You are to have a baby in April, Buck, you 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: couldn't in the vast majority of the country say, oh, 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 5: I'm an American, my wife's an American. I want to 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: put her on a plane and send her to country. 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: Why to become a double citizen that baby, because it's 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 5: not permitted in most of the rest of the country. 114 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: The only reason birthright citizenship exists in the United States 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: today is a vestige, a relic of the colonial era, 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 5: where if you got on a ship and you sent 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: somebody from England, let's say, to the colonies in the 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: United States, the people who moved here wanted to be 119 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 5: sure that their kids were. 120 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Still British subjects. 121 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: That is, if you were going to Charleston or Boston 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 5: or New York City in sixteen eighty six, you wanted 123 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 5: to know that even if you had a family, they 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 5: could go back to England and they would all still 125 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: be British subjects. That's why today birthrights citizenship is mostly 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: just in countries that were once European colonies. That's why 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: it's here. That's the vestige of it. What usually exists 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: and most of the rest of the world is so 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 5: called citizenship by blood, which is if your mom or 130 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: dad are citizens of a country and you are born 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: to them, you also then become a citizen of that country, 132 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: which I think everybody would agree with. No matter where 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: you're born, if you're born on a military base in 134 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: South Korea, you're still a citizen of the United States. 135 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, this is where subject to the jurisdiction thereof comes 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: into play and what the meaning of that is. And 137 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: when you look at they will oftentimes try to cite 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: the amendment that has to do with formally enslaved people, 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: right fourteenth Amendment, and they'll say that's what Kristen Welker 140 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: tried to cite in that argument with Trump just now 141 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: that we've played. This is always what they say. They say, 142 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: but this is very specifically the fourteen at the amendment with 143 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: very specifically about making sure that formerly enslaved people were citizens, 144 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: full citizens under the Constitution of the United States. It 145 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: was not intended so that you could have, for example, 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Chinese nationals. And I'm not making this up. This is 147 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: a thing that happens. I've brought this up before, but 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: I think it illustrates very well the games that are 149 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: played Chinese national You know, eight or nine months pregnant, 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: goes to California, stays specifically at a hotel there that's 151 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: meant to let the Chinese national have the baby there 152 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: gets you know, citizenship papers, goes back to China with 153 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: their kid, and then when they want their kid to 154 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: go to school at Berkeley, they get to be a 155 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: US citizen and getting in state tuition. I mean, these 156 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: this is absurd, right. I mean the way that it 157 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: works now also would be if you're a foreign national 158 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: and you have a kid here in America and then 159 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: you go back to your foreign national country, if you're 160 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: here on a tourist visa, at least then you'd be legal. 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: That person is in America, and so you go back 162 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: and you raise them somewhere else. But you know, you 163 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: as the as the visitor, have a different nationality, never 164 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: a US citizenship, and that now your kid is an 165 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: American and then you get to illegals. Where the huge incentive. 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if if somebody robbed the bank, meaning they 167 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: broke you know, they broke the law. Somebody robbed the 168 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: bank play and they gave one hundred thousand dollars to 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: their kid, and they're like, no, no, no, but this is 170 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: for my kid's college tuition. They would still take the 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: money back. You know, you're not supposed to be able 172 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: to profit from breaking the law, and people who are 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: illegal who have children in this country who are granted 174 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: citizenship are profiting from breaking the law. That is just 175 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a reality, that is a fact. And this is why 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: Trump taking this on. There. There is going to be 177 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a court battle over it. There's going to be a 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: lot of you know, just freak out, gnashing of teeth, 179 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff. But ultimately, it's time the American people 180 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: faced up to this question and we decide whether or 181 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: not we're going to allow the gaming of the system 182 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: to continue in this way. 183 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 5: I think it should be a day one executive order 184 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: that Trump puts into place. To your point on the 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: fourteenth Amendment, I can't tell you what the Supreme Court's 186 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 5: going to say officially on this executive order, because I 187 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 5: don't know what the executive order is going to read. 188 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: I can tell you the Supreme Court is not going 189 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 5: to buy the Fourteenth Amendment argument, because the majority of 190 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: the Supreme Court today would look at the decision made 191 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 5: in the Fourteenth Amendment and they would say, quite clearly, 192 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: the intent here was, as you said, and I said, 193 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: to deal with former slaves and make it clear that 194 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: they are full citizens of the United States. It was 195 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: not to determine how illegal immigrants who come to the 196 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: United States and have children should be treated. Because remember Buck, 197 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 5: in eighteen sixty five or eighteen sixty eight, whatever year 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: the fourteenth Amendment ended up being ratified, I don't remember 199 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: off the top of my head, you didn't have an 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: illegal immigration problem because it was really, really hard, by 201 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: and large to get to this country. So you couldn't 202 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: just have ten million people decide that they were going 203 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 5: to come here immediately. The population was much less transient. 204 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: You didn't have the ability of people from one hundred 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: and eighty countries to get on an airplane, fly to 206 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: Mexico and walk across our southern border. So what's important 207 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: here is Trump merely taking the Act turns this into 208 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 5: a legitimate, forthright political debate that everyone should be weighing 209 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: in on. And I happened to think, what do you 210 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: think the percentages would be of Americans that would oppose 211 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: birthright citizenship at this day in time. I think it's 212 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 5: like sixty forty because Americans don't like to see people 213 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: taking advantage of our laws. Yeah, I think that you 214 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 5: would have a majority of American support ending this process. 215 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 5: I think where it becomes a lot harder politically is 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: on the what about those I don't think you're going 217 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 5: to be able to strip citizenship from people who have citizenship, don't. 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Trump about this when he 219 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: talked about the Dreamers for example, and how he's going 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: to sort of how he's going to treat families overall, 221 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: this has cut ten. He got to you gotta hear this. 222 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: This is what Trump was saying about how this plays out. 223 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: This has cut ten. Listen to the man himself. 224 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: Four million families in America who have mixed immigration status. 225 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: So I'm talking about parents who might be here illegally, 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: but the kids are here legally. Your borders are judging 227 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: about well, there are two aspects to this. 228 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: Your border. 229 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Zaara tom Hommet said, they can be deported together. Is 230 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: that the plan? 231 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: That way you keep the foot Well, I don't want 232 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: to be breaking up families. So the only way you 233 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: don't break up the family is you keep them together, 234 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: and you have to send them all back. 235 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: Even kids who are here legally, Well. 236 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: What you're going to do if they want to stay 237 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: with the father. Look, we have to have rules and regulations. 238 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: You can always find something out, like you know, this 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: doesn't work, that doesn't work. 240 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's going to be horrible. 241 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: When we take a wonderful young woman who's with a 242 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: criminal and they show the woman and he could stay 243 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: by the law, but they show the woman being taken 244 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: out or they want her out, and your cameras are 245 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: focused on her as she's crying, as she's being taken 246 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: out of our country, and then the public turns against us. 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: But we have to do our job. 248 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 5: Trump's already telling you exactly how this is going to go. Yes, 249 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: that's what's going to happen, Buck, They're going to find 250 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 5: the three or four most egregious examples of deportation and 251 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: they're going to run those as if it is representative 252 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 5: of everybody that's being taken out of the country. This 253 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 5: is where I think the media is the most dishonest. 254 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: Is they find an anecdote that is not representative of 255 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: the larger significant story, and they use the anecdote as 256 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 5: a stand in to represent everything that's actually going on. 257 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: This is to me, really how journalists wield their power. 258 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 5: They use the anecdote, which isn't representative of the larger 259 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 5: issue and they just dry at home so that you 260 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 5: only know one or two names, but that that's supposed 261 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 5: to be the representation for why Trump is so evil. 262 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 5: And he's basically telling you in advance. Trump is exactly 263 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: how this is going to play out. He knows that 264 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: he's smart when it comes to media and understanding how 265 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: the media. 266 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Moves, and this is if he follows through Clay. I 267 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: believe this is where the left rallies and on exactly 268 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. This is the It gives them 269 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: the sense of immediacy, you know. 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: Sanctimony, which is what they love, moral superiority more than anything. 271 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what I think is going to be their 272 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: rallying point. They're rallying cry. But we'll see how this 273 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: one all goes. Imagine a young woman who is facing 274 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: an unplanned pregnancy and who's unsure of what to do, 275 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: and she's searching for supporters, you know society these days, 276 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: these big pro abortion organizations out there, most of the 277 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: media is so pro abortion. She's here all these voices. 278 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: What can be done to help her choose life? This 279 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: is where the preborn ministries come in. They operate preborn 280 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: clinics nationwide. 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The fact that this is even a discussion 309 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: is a sign of how much the country has moved 310 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: since twenty sixteen when Trump ran the first time. You'll remember, well, Buck, 311 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: like the idea that you would even put birthright citizenship 312 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: out for debate was considered completely unacceptable. This is a 313 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: sign that Trump has been right about much of the 314 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 5: many of the arguments that he's made, but also that 315 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 5: the country has moved in his direction and found those 316 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: arguments compelling. And this, to me is why he has 317 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 5: to act on day one on this. 318 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to move right away because this is 319 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: going to get a ferocious response from the Democrats, because 320 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: ultimately the Democrats are the pro illegal immigration party, and 321 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: that's what they have become quite openly. Remember remember when 322 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: they were all on stage and the Democrat primary in 323 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Clay and they all wanted to give Obamacare 324 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: to illegals. 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That's b R 346 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: a D Bradlert dot com one more time, Bradlert dot 347 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: com paid for by wide Mote Research Basic. 348 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Your plan to deport everyone who is here illegally over 349 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: the next four years, Well. 350 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: I think you have to do it, and it's a 351 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: it's a very tough thing to do. 352 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: We had eleven thousand and thirteen thousand, different estimates, thirteen 353 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: thousand and ninety nine murderers released into our country over 354 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: the last three years. They're walking down the streets, they're 355 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 4: walking next to you and your family, and they're very dangerous. 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Thirteen thousand figure I think goes back about forty year. 357 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: It good, No, it doesn't know it's within the three 358 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: year period. It's during the Biden term. No, that was 359 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: a friction that they put that out. This was done 360 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: by the Border Patrol. 361 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: It's thirteen thousand and ninety nine, and it's during the 362 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: Biden period of time. And these are murderers, many of 363 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: whom murdered more than one person. 364 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: He's saying, Clay, that's Trump's saying that there's going to 365 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: be massive deportations and they're going to start with criminal 366 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: illegal aliens. You know, we don't really have a great 367 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: term for this, but there are people who are not 368 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: lawfully in the country and they've already been adjudicated to 369 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: be kicked out of the country, to be deported. And 370 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: then there are people who are in that status and 371 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: are committing additional crimes or have committed additional crimes, and 372 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that's what they're going to focus on from a law 373 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: enforcement perspective. And this is about allocation of resources. I 374 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: think it's also politically the wisest way to go. Do 375 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: you think I feel like there's no way for Trump 376 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: not to at least try this, because I do believe 377 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: that even the most ardent Trump voters feel that this 378 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: has been promised and this is the way forward and 379 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: this needs to happen. 380 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got to do it, and it's the right decision. 381 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: And it's the same reason why I think he needs 382 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: to act on birthright citizenship immediately. My advice to him 383 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: would be flood the zone with everything immediately. And you say, Okay, 384 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 5: what do you mean by that, Clay, I mean take 385 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: every action that you are going to take from an 386 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: executive level immediately, because if you do things one at 387 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: a time, then and you allow yourself to be opposed 388 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 5: and for people to array against you. I think one 389 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 5: of the brilliant parts of Trump's political genius is that 390 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 5: he recognizes almost nothing lasts longer than twenty four hours, 391 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: and so a lot of people get bogged down. They 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: say something, and they worry about what the reaction is 393 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: going to be, and then they end up apologizing for it. 394 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: Trump just bulldozes ahead. I think he's got the bullheaded 395 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 5: ness that is necessary here, and now he's got the 396 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: skill set surrounding him. This will be a Steven Miller production, right, 397 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: There's no doubt at all about this. We know who 398 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 5: is going to lead up much of his border policies, 399 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 5: and you just got to go and you know the 400 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 5: media is going to be opposed to you. I think 401 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: the difference is substantial in Buck him having Elon Musk 402 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: running x slash Twitter, because there's at least one social 403 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 5: media company where it's an open marketplace. We didn't talk 404 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 5: about it, but Mark Zuckerberg going down to eat dinner 405 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: with Trump, I think was substantial. Eli Jeff Bezos coming 406 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: out and saying that he's optimistic about how the Trump 407 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 5: era is gonna go. Tim Cook at Apple having a 408 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 5: pretty good relationship with Trump. They have now failed in 409 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: being able to isolate him from the rest of sort 410 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: of the mainstream media environment. And I think he's going 411 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: to be considered correct here and he just has to 412 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 5: move fast. 413 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 414 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 5: If you saw this analogy, but I saw this in 415 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 5: the cut sheet and I thought we got to play this. 416 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: Newt Gingrich was talking about how indestructible Trump is. Did 417 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 5: you see what the analogy was that he used. 418 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Buck. 419 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: He said, Trump is a mythic figure. This is maybe 420 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: the nerdiest analogy of all time from Newt Gingrich. Listen 421 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 5: to cut twenty one. 422 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 7: If you're a relatively sophisticated leader around the world and 423 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 7: you watch nine years of the rise of Donald Trump, 424 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 7: and you watch two impeachments, and you watch all of 425 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 7: these efforts to catch him in the law, and you 426 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 7: watch two assassination attempts, and the guy just keeps coming. 427 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 7: As I said the other day, this is a mythic figure, 428 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 7: almost like the various Scandinavian BeO wolfs and other kind 429 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 7: of sagas. 430 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. 431 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 7: There's no practical way that you can explain Trump within 432 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 7: a normal political structure. 433 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: All Right, I need to know something. I need to 434 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: know something. So who's Grendel in this analogy? If he's Beowolf? 435 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, is it Adam Schiff, is it Liz Cheney? 436 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: Who is Grendel the monster? What? 437 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 5: You went and proved my nerd argument by immediately getting 438 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 5: the Beowulf analogy? What percided that New Gingrich obviously very 439 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: bright guy. But when I heard that he compared Trump 440 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: to Beowolf, I just I had a flashback to ninth 441 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: grade English or whatever year it was that we've read it, 442 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 5: and I'm just picturing I love it. 443 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: Can I say I love it? Anytime somebody makes a 444 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: literary reference that is not Harry Potter, I get excited. Okay, 445 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: there are other made Excuse me, that is an affirmative 446 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: choice that I make. Do not be part of the 447 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Harry Potter masses. All right, everything is always Harry Potter 448 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Boo, it's like Voldemort. Oh it's like 449 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: you know, so, yes, I like the Beowolf Nerd reference, 450 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: mister Clay, I will tell you, I like mixing it up. 451 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: You also, when you are anti Harry Potter, are like 452 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: the guy or gal back in the day that refused 453 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 5: to watch Star Wars. You realize that right, like this 454 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 5: is like the modern day version of you being like 455 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: who cares about lightsabers? That's stupid? Oh, and you're gonna 456 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 5: go fly around in space? How come they don't ever 457 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: have gravity issues on the airplane? Like this is you. 458 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: You just are older so you. 459 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Don't realize it. That's a little shit. It's a little shaking. 460 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Harry Potter's for like tweens, get out of here. 461 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 5: I this is an outrage, Harry Ball. Maybe it's a 462 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: younger generation. 463 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: But you said is true? 464 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 5: But no, no, no, I but you are like the 465 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: old guy who was coming after Star Wars. I'm saying 466 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: if we had been doing this show in like nineteen 467 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: eighty six, you would be like, oh ah, you losers 468 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 5: watching Star Wars, Oh Return of the Jedi. Who cares 469 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: about that at all? 470 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean that probably would have been me in nineteen 471 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: eighty six. But nonetheless, my Harry Potter says I any, 472 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: I love the expansion of literary references beyond just one. 473 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: Just throw some C. S. Lewis in there. Just give 474 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: me some other stuff, please, somebody. If you spend any 475 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: of your time online, it's always Harry Potter all the time. 476 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: It's like the tyranny of Harry Potter. It's like people 477 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: who only tied just Hamilton on Broadway. There are other 478 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Broadway shows. 479 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 5: I just am happy that anybody reads a book these days. 480 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: So if you're. 481 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: Actually referencing a book at LEO, I guess a lot 482 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: of people are not even referencing the book anymore. They 483 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: just watched the movies, like my fourteen year old. But 484 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 5: but I do think that the Beowolf reference is somewhat 485 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: unique in that Trump is becoming a mythical figure. And 486 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 5: I think that's one reason to go to your point 487 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: about him undertaking the actions that he has the moment. 488 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 5: And I really believe this is becoming truer and truer 489 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 5: every day. The moment Buck that he survived that assassination 490 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: attempt and stood up and pumped his fist and said 491 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: fight three times. You remember when Lincoln died and Stanton, 492 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: they can fact check me on this. I believe it 493 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 5: was Edwin Stanton said at the moment that Lincoln died, 494 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: now he belongs to the ages, right after he was 495 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 5: assassinated at Ford's Theater. Remember at the time, Abraham Lincoln 496 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 5: was not that popular. It's important if you study history. 497 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: A lot of times the guys that we believe are 498 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: the greatest presidents ever in their current existence, that is, 499 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: when they were involved in politics, were ripped to shreds. 500 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 5: A lot of people didn't like them. Lincoln became a 501 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: mythological figure when he was assassinated at Ford's Theater. This 502 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: is me projecting history, which is always difficult, but I 503 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 5: think there is going to be in the decades and 504 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: the long run of history ahead, that moment of Trump 505 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 5: surviving the assassination attempt and rising and pumping his fist 506 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: and saying fight, fight, Fight. It's an iconic image to 507 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 5: those of us that are alive today. I think it's 508 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 5: going to be even more iconic fifty years from now, 509 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 5: I really do. And the point I believe where it 510 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: comes into play here is I think in winning the 511 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 5: popular vote and vanquishing all opposition against him, Trump is 512 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: becoming hard, harder and harder to rip. Now he's got 513 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: two years, because every president in the final two years 514 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 5: doesn't matter that much, But what he can accomplish in 515 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: these two years I think has the potential to set 516 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 5: us on the directory, the direction, and the trajectory we 517 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: need to go for the next fifteen or twenty. 518 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: I think one of the complicating factors for the Trump 519 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: opposition is they are facing for the first time a 520 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Trump who only has the possibility of four years. You 521 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yes, like this is that? Yeah, 522 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: I understand. You know, in twenty sixteen, the belief was 523 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: man Trump could be president for eight straight years, and 524 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: then going into twenty twenty, you know, they were able 525 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: to stop him and so he didn't actually come into power. 526 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: This time around, they're facing him for four years, and 527 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I think it's meaningful for how they're trying to align 528 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: themselves in the opposition and why they look like they're 529 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: just scurrying all over the place of no idea. What's 530 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: going on? Look really deflated and defeated right now, they 531 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: will bounce back. I am not I don't want to 532 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: get into triumphalism here, trust me, Kamala hate to say it, 533 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of votes for the worst candidate we've 534 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: ever seen in our lifetime. Okay, just remember that, Yes, 535 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: she got smoked by Trump, but she's still got a 536 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: lot of votes. So let's not be too patting ourselves 537 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: on the back here. But they're going to be running 538 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: against not Trump, and they're going to be trying to 539 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: take away you know, the House and the Senate of 540 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: the midterms in very short order. So to turn everything 541 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: into an anti Trump argument doesn't really make sense, do 542 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They've never had to do 543 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: this before, because twenty twenty, it's obviously anything to defeat him. 544 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: But now they want to oppose him. But they're also 545 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: going to have to run, and they're gonna have to 546 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: run relatively soon. So I think that they don't know 547 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: what the party's supposed to be, what their party's supposed 548 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: to be. 549 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've never had Trump without having to think about 550 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 5: re election, and I think it's important. And you heard 551 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: him mention this in the birthright Citizenship discussion. COVID took 552 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: a year away from him. I think he would have 553 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 5: done the birthright citizenship plan in twenty twenty, But in 554 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 5: February of his final year in office, suddenly COVID exploded 555 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 5: and became the story for the entire election calendar and 556 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: that whole year. What would have happened if COVID hadn't arrived. 557 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: I think Trump would have been a lot more active. 558 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: I think he's going to do all this stuff, and 559 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 5: I think he's going to do it in year one, 560 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 5: and I don't think they're ready to be able to 561 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: fight back against him. Holiday shopping could be a blessing 562 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: and a curse. Blessing some of the best deals you'll 563 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 5: see all year. 564 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: Curse. 565 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: How much more likely your online identity will be compromised 566 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 5: by a data breach. Cyber Hackers work overtime as the 567 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 5: getting's good for them. 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I will be here tomorrow and Thursday hanging 594 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 5: out with all of you. We've been doing a lot 595 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: of awesome things over here. I would encourage all of 596 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: you to go check out clayanbuck dot com. They're posting 597 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 5: a lot of the videos from places that we are 598 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 5: touring with our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians 599 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: and Jews. We're going all over the country doing all 600 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 5: sorts of interesting things from north to south here from 601 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: the border with Lebanon to the border with Gaza and 602 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 5: all points in between. 603 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: You can check it out. 604 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 5: And you know what, I've needed a lot of buck 605 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: while you've been over here. Coffee. There is no Crocket 606 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: coffee here in Israel. Although I suppose I could have 607 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 5: traveled with it. 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All right, we were talking about 626 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: Trump is a literary character. According to new Gingrich, then 627 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: Harry Potter to the absolutely I was, he was, I was, 628 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: And I will be honest with you a little bit 629 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: part of my love for Harry Potter, which I read 630 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 5: as a twenty one year twenty two year old law student. 631 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: That's when I was reading all those books. I love 632 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 5: that JK. Rowling has been willing to speak out on 633 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 5: all these trans related issues when it feels like every 634 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 5: other billionaire acts like Mark Cuban basically cuts their balls off. 635 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 5: The author of Harry Potter just shows up and is 636 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 5: willing to throw down day to day and say, hey, 637 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: biological truth matters, and that makes me like her books 638 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 5: even more. Sure, I still like that. I would encourage 639 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 5: you well. I mean, I read all those books too, 640 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: because I'm a nerd. But you are soon going to 641 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 5: have a son. My suggestion to you would be at 642 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 5: some point when young Buck Junior is beginning to read 643 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 5: that you should read those books with him. And I 644 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: think you'll be like five, seven, eight years from now, 645 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 5: you're gonna be like, you know what, Clay, You're right. 646 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 5: The Harry Potter books are pretty good. I regret my 647 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 5: criticism of my criticism of the Harry Potter books. 648 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: You overestimate the speed with which I like to say 649 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: the words Clay, you were right. Okay, it's gonna be 650 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: tough tough to carry. Has Carrie read? Surely Carry has 651 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: read these books. She's actually out of the house right now, 652 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: so I gotta ask. 653 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: Her quiz are on this and find out I as 654 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 5: the what was the one about the vampire? 655 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: The Sexton family? I feel like this is like the vampires. 656 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? The what was the thing? 657 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: Like the in the Pacific? 658 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: This is very different. That's Twilight. 659 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: I read those I don't know. I feel like Clay 660 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: read something about the moody vampires. I don't know vampire 661 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: and I ware wilf Oh. 662 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen to some more Radiohead. 663 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 5: But Mike Leach rest in Peace, former Mississippi State football coach, 664 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 5: went off on the Twilight Books once with me and 665 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 5: said that the whole world was going to hell because 666 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 5: vampires weren't badass killers anymore. They were just MOPI losers. 667 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 5: And I remember that strong take from a football coach. 668 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 5: I didn't expect him to have strong opinions on modern 669 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 5: day vampires, but that take of ripping the Twilight Books 670 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: just echoed everywhere because I do agree with you on 671 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: that one. 672 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: You're wrong on Harry Potter right on Twilight. I'll take 673 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll take one for two. That's how we do better 674 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: with our prize picks this week. We need to run 675 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: the table play. 676 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: Amen. 677 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: That's a great transition.