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Speaker 3: Let's let's jump to the NFC and we'll start with Dallas.

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Speaker 2: See Lamb or Amari for you?

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Speaker 1: This is so tough because I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 1: I have Tyler Conklin tight end twenty seven right now,

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Speaker 3: Be viable at all given that there is still some

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Speaker 1: you know at tight end six. He's really my perfect

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Speaker 1: draft strategy is getting TJ. Hawkinson at tight end six.

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Speaker 1: He ultimately will be the number one target in this offense.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think they have a backup tight end

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Speaker 1: right now. So yeah, so he's the number one target.

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Speaker 1: But after that, I think I'm on Saint Brown out

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Speaker 1: of the slot will be the number two target in

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Speaker 1: this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hockinson has like one hundred catch up side on

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Speaker 3: his high range of outcomes, which you can't say for

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Speaker 3: any of the receivers.

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Speaker 2: So love Hockinson. I think Saint Brown.

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Speaker 3: You maximize him by doing it in full PPR because

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Speaker 3: I don't expect this team to throw a lot of touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: and I expect Saint Brown to have a low which

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Speaker 3: you have to target, which is you know, it is

451
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Speaker 3: good because it helps you get, you know, receptions, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think the touchdowns will be there, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know that the yardage will be there, just given

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Speaker 3: that you have Jared Goffick quarterback too, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably he probably won't give you a Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: type rookie season, but yeah, just like a sixty catch

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Speaker 1: nice little PPR season In deeper leags for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the ceiling is like Cooper Cupp who

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Speaker 3: you know, played well with Jared Goff his rookie year,

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Speaker 3: but obviously that was a Sean McVay offense. This is

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Speaker 3: an Anthony win offense. So I mean maybe keenan Allen role,

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Speaker 3: who knows. But there's some upside there is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Sean, what is your first prize pick?

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Speaker 1: So hopefully you listen to my advice a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago and built some entries around Gus Edwards over

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Speaker 1: six hundred rushing yards. It is now up to eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and a half rushing yards due to JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins season I Andrey I still think this is too low.

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Speaker 1: I'm projecting him post to one thousand yards, so I

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Speaker 1: would actually pick this up to about nine to twenty

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Speaker 1: five rushing yards. So I still think we still we

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Speaker 1: have some value here at eight fifty So I love

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Speaker 3: I have Gus Edwards over nine hundred yards in my

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Speaker 3: model as well, so I like that one. For mine,

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Speaker 3: I'm going with gets running back Michael Carter over five

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Speaker 3: seventy five and a half rushing yards. Again, I think

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Speaker 3: there's been some pessimism after it was a backfield committee

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Speaker 3: in the preseason, and well, I do think the other

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Speaker 3: backs will mix in. The cream always rises to the top,

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Speaker 3: and that cream is Carter. He's great in the past game,

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Speaker 3: he's great in the run game, and this.

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Speaker 2: Is a really low bar to clear.

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Speaker 3: So I have him well over six hundred rushing yards

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Speaker 3: on the season, and that's a pretty conservative projection. So

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Speaker 3: I love the over five to seventy five and a half.

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Speaker 3: Who's your final prize pick entry for this week's shop?

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Speaker 1: So I'm diving into the Week one pool here. I

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the Justin Herbert under two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy four and a half passing yards Week one. They're

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Speaker 1: at Washington, so this is gonna be a really tough

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Speaker 1: test to begin this season. He's on our new system

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Speaker 1: under new offensive quarter Joe Lombardi, so you know he

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Speaker 1: might take a couple of weeks to kind of get

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Speaker 1: this culture to two sixty soul. I would pick this

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I like that Herbert call Washington is a

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Speaker 2: So like that one as well.

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Speaker 3: And that's going to do it for our elite entry

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Speaker 3: Michael Carter over five hundred seventy five and a half

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Speaker 3: to the fantasy flex the NFC South, we have the Bucks,

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Speaker 3: we have of Evans and Godwin going pretty high in

547
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Speaker 3: the top twenty receivers, there's no question about that. But

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Speaker 3: this is a great offense. Tom Brady at the Helm

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Speaker 3: good Old line. So among these middle round guys, who

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Speaker 3: do you like as the best value Antonio Brown, Ronald Jones,

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Speaker 3: or Leonard Fournette.

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Speaker 1: Let me just start off by saying it's not Ronald Jones,

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Speaker 1: so he's number three for me, and then it's probably

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Speaker 1: a toss up, honestly between Leonard Fournette, who I don't get.

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Speaker 1: He's not a running back I seek out and drafts.

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Speaker 1: But at RB thirty six, you could do worse. You know,

557
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Speaker 1: maybe we see playoff money all season, who knows, but

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Speaker 1: he's the only back in this offense that can kind

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Speaker 1: of dominate the rushing work and receiving work if either

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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones or Joe Bernard were at a miss time.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Antonio Brown, I think he's one of

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Speaker 1: those players where I have a ranked forty fifth, but

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Speaker 1: I'd probably draft him much earlier. So his ADP at

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Speaker 1: thirty five does sound about I think that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of his ceiling honestly if everybody says healthy.

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Speaker 1: But he's probably the guy with the most upside out

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Speaker 1: of these three, so I would target him if I mean,

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Speaker 1: imagine if either Mike Evans or Chris Godden were to

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Speaker 1: go down. I mean, he has wide receiver two upside

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Speaker 1: for sure, So he's one of those guys at that

571
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Speaker 1: point in the draft, I am, okay kind of reaching

572
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Speaker 1: for that ceiling. So I would probably lean Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: out of these three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an ad at forty two, but I agree.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he say, I believe he averaged the most

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Speaker 3: catches per game once they acquired him out of all

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Speaker 3: of them, so you know, he just his he was

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Speaker 3: getting targeted on those like little gimme short routes, so

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Speaker 3: it wasn't it's not the same as it was in

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh necessarily, but he's still Antonio Brown. He's still a

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Speaker 3: guy who could be a high volume receiver. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's it's him for me. I'm you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: hate Ronald Jones as much as I did earlier because

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Speaker 3: and I do end up getting him sometimes because when

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Speaker 3: you look at the Bucks schedule, I mean they just

586
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Speaker 3: have a very very favorable schedule, So there could be

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Speaker 3: a scenario where, especially given how good the defense is

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Speaker 3: and how you know that, the fact that you have

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Speaker 3: a quarterback that's gonna convert on third down and get

590
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Speaker 3: you up and down the field, the running backs could

591
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Speaker 3: be valuable, very valuable on this team, even though it

592
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Speaker 3: is a committee. I mean there's a lot of offenses these

593
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Speaker 3: days with committees. So Ronald Jones has that double digit

594
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Speaker 3: touchdown upside. I still think uh and Fournette I think

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Speaker 3: gets dinged a little more because even though he got

596
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Speaker 3: the receiving usage last year, I think that's why they

597
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Speaker 3: went out and got Bernard because they don't like Fournette's

598
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: not really a great receiver. It's just you know, when

599
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Speaker 3: you have Tom Brady and everyone else is going deep,

600
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna get some catches. But I think

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Speaker 3: I think he's I do agree that he has that

602
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Speaker 3: like due threat capability, but I think the plan is

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Speaker 3: to reduce his role, whereas Jones role because he didn't

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Speaker 3: ever rely on receiving usage in the first place. I

605
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Speaker 3: think he kind of maintains the same role. So I

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Speaker 3: think I actually like Jones more than fort have. Jones

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Speaker 3: thirty two and for Nett's thirty nine in Happy People.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, And I was going to mention, you know,

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Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is too one dimensional, but you know, the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers should provide plenty of Ronald Jones game script. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I do like him that regard, but I

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Speaker 1: think Fournett definitely has a higher ceiling, and again in

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Speaker 1: this range at running back, that's kind of what I'm

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Speaker 1: going for.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Falcons. Where are you

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Speaker 3: ending up on Mike Davis?

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Speaker 1: I mean I like Mike Davis. He's RB twenty two

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Speaker 1: right now. He really doesn't have much depth behind him.

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Speaker 1: I know that they're talking about using Quadria Olison and

620
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Speaker 1: Cordell Patterson as sort of a running back by committee,

621
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Speaker 1: but this could be a pretty run heavy offense under

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. So you know, I do like Mike Davis. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: he does sort of fit the definition of a frozen

624
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Speaker 1: pond running back because although he's the number of the

625
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Speaker 1: week one starter, I mean, he's not a lot to

626
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Speaker 1: hang on to all season. He's you know, he's been

627
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Speaker 1: a journeyman his entire career. He had the breakout season

628
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Speaker 1: last year when CMC went down, but you know, anything

629
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Speaker 1: can happened in this backfield. The one thing going for him,

630
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Speaker 1: like I said, is the depth chart behind him is

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Speaker 1: pretty weak, but there is still some uncertainty there. So

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Speaker 1: having said that, he I urge a little bit of

633
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Speaker 1: caution drafting him at running back twenty two. But that's

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Speaker 1: that's where my projections having.

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Speaker 3: Ranked, Yeah, I have to have him RB nineteen, so

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Speaker 3: I'm a little easy. Yeah, I think I'm a little

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Speaker 3: higher on consensus. And I don't mind him at all because, yeah,

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Speaker 3: number one, the backfield is pretty weak depth wise, but

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Speaker 3: number two I read a quote from Arthur Blank, the Owner,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I love, I love kind of getting

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Speaker 3: inside these organizations heads cause I think that's where the

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Speaker 3: edge is not and like who's making who's catching the

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Speaker 3: ball at camp or this or that it is going

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Speaker 3: to be all puff pieces. But sometimes you can find

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Speaker 3: an edge just understanding what the organization is thinking. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I think the question was asked of him,

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Speaker 3: like why did you go with an offensive guy in

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith after he had all these defensive guys Dan

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Speaker 3: Quinn and whatnot. And he he was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: we need to like run the ball, and well that

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Speaker 3: is not maybe that's not the best thing from a

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Speaker 3: you know, football analytics standpoint. Uh, he's the owner, and

653
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: that's there's gonna be an emphasis on running the ball.

654
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: So I totally agree. I think this offense could look

655
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: completely different. Remember, Arthur Smith is the king of running

656
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: the ship out of the ball. Obviously he had Derrick Henry,

657
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: but uh, you know that's what he's done, and and

658
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: he's made a passing game effective by doing it. But uh,

659
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: the running back has been very valuable in his offenses.

660
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: And you know, the owner is saying like, hey, you

661
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: know when we were good and we were winning, you

662
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: know we had a run game. We would run efficiently,

663
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: and uh that would help our defense, which we know

664
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: isn't that great and it's going to take some time

665
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: to rebuild. So I think this is a team that's

666
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: fully going to try to implement that Tennessee strategy to

667
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: some degree. Uh. And remember the Falcons have been like

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: the past heaviest team the last couple of years in

669
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: the league. I mean it was you know, they were

670
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: in the mid sixth fifties in past attempts every year.

671
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: So we could see a dramatically different offense, and it's

672
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: just hard, you know, even because I do have you know,

673
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm projecting Davis for only about fifty on the season,

674
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: only about fifty five percent of the total running back carries,

675
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, after counting in the miss games.

676
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: But I still have him up pretty high. It's going

677
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: to be hard.

678
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: Allison's not really a threat to run too many routes

679
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: out of the backfield. And then Patterson he's you know,

680
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: he's not even a true he's like a running back

681
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: wide receiver hybrid. So Davis should be on the field

682
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: for a lot of pass naps and they should put

683
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: an emphasis on running the ball.

684
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, I'm fine with him.

685
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: Again, this is I think this is just a better

686
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 3: RB two tier than than the year's pass And I

687
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: like Davis a lot more than a guy like Todd Gurley,

688
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: and Todd Gurley even was fine last year.

689
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, he got benched.

690
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Davis is twenty years old, but he doesn't have

691
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: that much tread on his tires. You know, he has

692
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: four hundred and twelve career carries, so he might be

693
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: a little bit fresher than your average twenty eight year

694
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: old running back. So that that's certainly going in his favor.

695
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: And obviously he's no Derrick Henry, we know that, but

696
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: he does at least have that pass catching up side

697
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: that Henry doesn't really have, so I could see how

698
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: he would just thrive in this Arthur Smith offense.

699
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays hard, He'll get you some yards after

700
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: the contact. Probably not going to be a high yard

701
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: per carry guy all things considered, But yeah, I'm a

702
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: little higher on him.

703
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't mind.

704
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: I don't mind getting him especially, you know Waight fifth

705
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: thirly six if you need that that second running back.

706
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Or didn't he have the highest broken tackle rate of

707
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: qualified running backs last year? I think that I might

708
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: need to double check that, but pretty sure.

709
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: I can check right now.

710
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: Let's see, I do know, I do see that he's

711
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: He was seventh on the year in in miss tackles

712
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: forced in PFF and pretty much every running back on

713
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: that list had more carries than him on the top six,

714
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: so he should be up there.

715
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be up there.

716
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: He averaged three yards after contact, which is very good.

717
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think he's a I think he's a

718
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: solid pick here. Not down on him at all, just

719
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: given a situation for Carolina. I think we love Harris Marshall,

720
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: especially David Moore being released, but.

721
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: We also love Robbie Anderson.

722
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: And then DJ Moore has put up too straight eleven

723
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: hundred yard plus yard seasons, and there's also Christian McCaffrey,

724
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: and there's also Dan Arnold should be more involved than

725
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: Ian Thomas last year. So I guess my concern is, like,

726
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: how likely are we to get a bust or two

727
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: out of this Carolina pass catching unit given that we

728
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: still have Sam Donald that quarterback, Like how many pass

729
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: catchers can Sam Donald truly support?

730
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not more than two or three, right, and

731
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: you know CMC will probably be an every week hit.

732
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: So that leaves, yeah, like one or two receivers after that.

733
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: So I'm very worried that, you know, like a DJ

734
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Moore or Robbie Anderson could be inconsistent. So that's why

735
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: you know DJ Moore at I think he's wide receiver

736
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: eighteen now kind of scares me. I don't like to

737
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: overspend an offense like this where you made a great

738
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: point like this is a Sam Darnold offense, So I

739
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: would say Dj Moore, I'd be cautious about that and

740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: I do like a guy like Terrence Marshall way later

741
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: because you can get him, you know, super cheap. He

742
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: might be the odd man out most weeks, but he

743
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: will have weeks you know, where he scores a touchdown

744
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: or he's heavily evolved. So he's a guy that can

745
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: also kind of impact DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson negatively.

746
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: So this is a very uh, this is offense they

747
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: have to be careful about. They were able to support

748
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: three receivers last year with Teddy Bridgewater, but you know,

749
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Christ McCaffery is out for most of the season, so

750
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: that might be why. So that I'd be very careful.

751
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: And the thing I've been doing is just not drafting

752
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Dj Moore at wide receiver eighteen because of the you know,

753
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: the lower flour of this offense will have week to week.

754
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's my wide receiver twenty five.

755
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: So whoa yeah in.

756
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: That And that's because you know, I still have Anderson

757
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: at thirty two and h and Marshall. You know, even

758
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: though I haven't projected for about uh, you know, close

759
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: to eighty percent of the routes per game like Samuel

760
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: Ran last year, He's still my wide receiver, uh seventy

761
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: because he just you know, the they're just there's just

762
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: only so many targets to go around, and we don't know.

763
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: We can't just project like a huge, huge change in

764
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: efficiency for Donald, like I do have him better than

765
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: he was in his Jets days Teddy Bridgewater average I

766
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: think it was seven point six yards per attempt. So

767
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: the receivers will definitely help Donald, but you also have

768
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: to account for the fact that you know, Dan Arnold

769
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: should comand a bigger target share than Thomas who was

770
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: essentially running routes and nothing was happening when he ran

771
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: those routes. So yeah, uh there, Yeah, it's just a

772
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: it's just a numbers game where in West here, but

773
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: we a huge believer in Donald taking a big step.

774
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be at least some inconsistency. Even

775
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: if these guys kind of hit their overall marks by

776
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: the end of the season, you may not know exactly

777
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: when to bench or start.

778
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: Some of them. So uh, it's it's it's weird.

779
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: It's a weird offense where it's like, I'm not too

780
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: excited about it. I've been getting some Robbie when he

781
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: was going real eight. But now it really depends on

782
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: the on the on the league. Sometimes he goes in

783
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 3: line with my projection of wide receiver thirty two. Sometimes

784
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: you can still get him later, so yeah, it's about it.

785
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: It's also unlikely that all these players stay healthy for

786
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: all seventeen games, so I think the weeks where one

787
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: or two of these players are out, the rest will benefit.

788
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: But that's why you don't want to invest in like

789
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: needing players to get hurt or miss time for a

790
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: guy to hit. But that's that's where the upside for

791
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: a guy like Marshall comes into play. Is if either

792
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: DJ Moore or Robbie and Erson missed time, I think

793
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: he does have that wide receiver three upside. But other

794
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: than that, when they're all healthy, super low floor for everybody.

795
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're right about more because it's

796
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: just he's the guy that's still going in that premium

797
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: range where he might have already hit his ceiling, you know,

798
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: eleven hundred plus yards and back to back years, Like,

799
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: there's not much higher he can go just given all

800
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: of the guys around him and then the balance around him.

801
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: But he's going in that range where you want that

802
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: like wide receiver one overall upside still that I just

803
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: don't know if More truly gives you that.

804
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Even though he's been he's been great and he's a

805
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: great receiver, he.

806
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: Might have from a numbers perspective, he might have topped

807
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: out with the yardage these last couple.

808
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Of seasons the Saints.

809
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: Who's the top value for you outside of Alvin Kamara,

810
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: Marcus Cowaway? Is it Michael Thomas, Troutman, tray Kwon, Latavius.

811
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Who do you like? Who you targeting the most? Outside

812
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: of Alvin Kamara?

813
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: It's probably Latavious. He's always the anti fragile back I

814
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: like to get sort of in that RB forty five

815
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: to RB fifty range. I know there was some concern

816
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: that he might be leaped fragged by Tony Jones. That

817
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be the case, so I still think

818
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: he's safe in the RB forty five range. Other than that,

819
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: these guys aren't really guys. I'm targeting Marcuz Callaway. I

820
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: do like him, but you know his ADP's wide receiver

821
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: forty four. Now that's pretty rich, especially when the factor

822
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: in that you know Michael Thomas should return at some point,

823
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: So I think Callaway's value's only going to go down.

824
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: Like when it comes to the fantasy playffs are going

825
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: to be starting Kelly probably not. You know, Taysom Hill

826
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: could take over any time. I think once that happens,

827
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: you're not gonna like Callaway as much. So I think,

828
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, of all the preseason overreactions, I think Callaway

829
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: being you know, wide receiver forty four might be one

830
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: of them. Unfortunately, but outside of Kamara, this is an

831
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: offense I'm basically staying away from now other than Latavius

832
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Murray is at a high upside backup.

833
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: Actually, well, Callaway, I think I think I think we

834
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: should still be drafting him because number one, he's going

835
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: to start the season. Well, you know, you still have Winston,

836
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: you have Thomas out, So if you can get you know,

837
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: a guy in that range who gives you, I think

838
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: legit like wide receiver two upside, it should like he

839
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: should be a target hog every week.

840
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: You know, all these weeks that Thomas.

841
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: Is out, and when you look at like the rest

842
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: of the Saints, you know you have Kamara there. With

843
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Thomas out, there's really no other guy that's going to

844
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: command targets. You know, like trout Win is a very

845
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: was a very low like target per out run guy.

846
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Trey Quon Smith's ridiculously low and calways.

847
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: Like he should be right there.

848
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: And then when Thomas gets back, I think you're going

849
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: to see a few more like it's gonna be a

850
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: little bit of a higher volume pass offense, and you know,

851
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: the all the defensive attention is going to be on

852
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: Camara and Thomas. So I think Callaways still can have

853
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: you know, decent weeks even then.

854
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: So I still like him going.

855
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: Here because I just and just based on how well

856
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: he like, you know, how well he's played. Because the

857
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: Saints are another team that they tend to unearth these receivers,

858
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: like they Colston, Willie Sneid. You know, They've had a

859
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of productive guys that coming into this season, or

860
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: at least their first seasons really being in a prominent role,

861
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: people kind of wrote off and then look they look

862
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: back and it's like, oh, this guy was really productive.

863
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: So I like Cowawi. I still like Cowi. He's the

864
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: guy Murray I do get. But you know, just because

865
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: of you know, there's been some skepticism and he is

866
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: getting a little older, Like I'm not as excited as

867
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: I was maybe like one two years ago about it.

868
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: I still think if Kamara goes down, he leads the

869
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 3: way and he gives you that running back one upside.

870
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: But he is also a guy that could kind of

871
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: fall off a cliff, and I mean maybe he does

872
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: at some point get leap frog too.

873
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: So do you have week one projections or rankings by

874
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: any chance?

875
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't started that yet.

876
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to callaway wide receiver thirty one. I

877
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: was curious where you have him, But I do agree

878
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: that he will get off to a fast start. But

879
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: I like having really strong receivers, so I prefer for

880
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: having like a Jerry Judy as my wide receiver three,

881
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: not Calloway. But certainly if you're in a situation where

882
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: you know you tag running back early on or tight

883
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: end and Callowy is your wide receiver three to begin

884
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: the year, I won't you know, slam me for that,

885
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: but I just think that his value will only go

886
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: down as the ear goes on. Unfortunately.

887
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can go to.

888
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: The wid receaver forty four and sometimes later than that

889
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: and like more casual league. So yeah, you know, like

890
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: we're in any sharp drafts where exactly, Yeah, he goes

891
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: like wide receivers thirty five, and like I wouldn't, I

892
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: don't need to start him as my wide receiver three.

893
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: And like you said, you have him ranked inside the

894
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: wide receiver three ranks already in Week one, even in

895
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: a tough matchup against that Again, he's was it Green Bay, right.

896
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why he's tricky to discuss, because again, if

897
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: you're if you're stashing him on your bench, you know

898
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: you're kind of losing that value. He's going to hit

899
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: the ground running week one, So it sort of depends

900
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: on your format. But certainly, if you can get him

901
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: outside of the wide receiver fifty range, he's obviously worth it.

902
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: There's just like I think I'd rather take a guy

903
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: like Will Fuller honestly in that range. Maybe, oh, Michael

904
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Gallup in that range, But other than that, I think, yeah,

905
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: if you can get around why I was here for

906
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: forty five and Michael Gallop and Will Fuller or off

907
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: the board, I can certainly get behind that.

908
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go to the West and we'll finish

909
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: it out with the Rams and the Niners and the

910
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: Seahawks's start with the Cardinals Chase Edmunds and James Connor.

911
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Edmunds usually goes right around.

912
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 3: The mid twenties and running back ADP maybe the low twenties.

913
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: Connor usually about ten spots lower than that, maybe in

914
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: the outside definitely usually outside the top one hundred picks

915
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: in that running back thirty five to forty range.

916
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Who's the better value for you at ADP?

917
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I would say Edmunds probably has the higher ceiling, so

918
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: he's probably the better value. But honestly, both running backs

919
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: sort of offer some value ADP because I think even

920
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: if both stay healthy, they should be able to kind

921
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: of upproduce as ADP. And if either one goes down,

922
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're gonna be pretty legit RB twos.

923
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: But you know it depends if James Connor inherits like

924
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: the full Kenyon Drake role. I mean, Edmunds was still

925
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: able to put up RB twenty eight numbers even with

926
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: Kenny on Drake there. So I think Edmunds is probably

927
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the guy for me, because you know, he just has

928
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: that massive upset. I think he could be like a

929
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: legit RB two if Connor were to go down. But

930
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: even if Connor is healthy, he still has his defined

931
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: role where he's a you know RB three kind of

932
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: flex guy, more valuable in PPR format. So I'd say,

933
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: out of these two Edmunds.

934
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: For me, yeah, I like both, Like I don't. I

935
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: like because Edmunds.

936
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: I have him, you know, RB twenty four in full PPR,

937
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: and I think he has upside for even more than that.

938
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: But Connor is also.

939
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: Right there is like a fringe top thirty guy for

940
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: me just because there Arizona almost never splits the carries

941
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: three ways. So yeah, if Edmunds gets hurt, I think

942
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 3: Connor will be like a twenty carry per game guy.

943
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: If Connor gets hurt, I think Edmunds will be like

944
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 3: a twenty carry per game guy. And even if they're

945
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: splitting work, you know Edmunds with his receiving usage and

946
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 3: he'll probably get like, you know, eight to ten carries,

947
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: and then there's still probably double digit carries on the

948
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 3: table for Connor with a catch, with a couple catches

949
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: here and there, and you do have that Kenyan Drake upside.

950
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: And even though Kenyan Drake people were down on him last

951
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: year once you know, as the season kind of progressed,

952
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: he was.

953
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: Still like a top twenty back or fourteen.

954
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so Kenny like, even though it wasn't maybe

955
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: impressive week in week out, it was kind of ugly,

956
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: Kenny Drake still got it done and there these carries

957
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 3: have to go somewhere.

958
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: And this is also one of the fastest paced teams.

959
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: So Arizona was number one in Football Outsiders situation adjusted

960
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: pace at twenty seven point one seconds between plays. So

961
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: that that just gives even more upside in a higher

962
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: floor to the to this backfield. That should be that,

963
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: it should be all, that should be all. You see,

964
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: it's just those two guys, you know, when when one

965
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: went down Edmunds got all the the other got all

966
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: the carries last year.

967
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: So like both of those guys at their ADP.

968
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: For the forty nine ers, we have maybe a similar situation,

969
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: but they're just a more crowded backfield. You have Trace

970
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: Sermon the rookie, and you have Raheem Mostert, the incumbent starter.

971
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: Mostert has you know, he's a.

972
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: Talented guy, but never really held up over like a

973
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: full season with a big workload. So where are you

974
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: on those two guys in terms of value at ADP.

975
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Sermon usually goes a little higher than most are.

976
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: This is a similar situation where I think both are

977
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: worth drafting. You know, I think most are will hit

978
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: the grout running. So if you're in a situation where

979
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: you need a guy to start right away, most it's

980
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: your guy. Week one rankings, I have him RB twenty one.

981
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: They're they're against the Lions. I think he's gonna have

982
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: a good game to start the season, and I have

983
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: Sermon RB thirty four. But I think as the season

984
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: goes on, Sermon's gonna catch up ground and eventually overtake him.

985
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: And certainly, you know, Mozart hasn't been the healthiest back.

986
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: He's had his injury issues, so he could end up

987
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: missing time and then Sermon has you know, RB one,

988
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: RB two sort of upside, they just cut Wayne Goleman,

989
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: so that kind of clears up this RB three role.

990
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: So I think both backs. Honestly, the forty nine ers

991
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: are always a situation I'm trying to invest in. So

992
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: you can make a case where you know, if you

993
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: go zero RB and you need a running back to

994
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: in this range, take Rahiem Moser because you can start

995
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: him the first handful of games, or maybe maybe even

996
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: the whole season. We'll see. But then Sermon's the kind

997
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: of guy I like to have my bench where I

998
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna peak come fantasy, you know, playoff time.

999
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: He'll have games where he starts. So I think Sermon's

1000
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: probably the better long term investment. But I can get

1001
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: behind either one of these backs.

1002
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when the offseason started, I was kind

1003
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: of anti drafting San Francisco Backs period because it was there,

1004
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: was Goldman was still there. There are just a lot

1005
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: of certainty, you know, Mitchell hasty. But now it's cleared

1006
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: up a little bit because you know, Goldman got cut,

1007
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: Wilson's going to be out, you know, to start the year,

1008
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: and then Mitchell's been hurt as well, so you know,

1009
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 3: he just is getting back into the flow of things.

1010
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be somewhat similar to the

1011
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: Denver situation, where you have a good defense, you know,

1012
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: you have a good running situation, and these two guys

1013
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: should dominate the work. Now I think there is a

1014
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: little bit lower of a floor both of them, just

1015
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 3: because you do have some other backs still there and

1016
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: Shanahan's been known to kind of mix it up. But

1017
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 3: so I like the Denver backs more like Gordon, rather

1018
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: Gordon in place of Moster, you know at adp or

1019
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: or Williams in place of Sermon.

1020
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I don't hate these guys anymore.

1021
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: They're just both kind of mid range RB three he's

1022
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: with with high end you know, RB two upside, So

1023
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: don't hate him as much as I did coming in.

1024
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: But I've been getting more of the Denver backfield in

1025
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: my in my own drafts for Seattle, and you know,

1026
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 3: we know, we know they might.

1027
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Increase the pace.

1028
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: We know, Russell Wilson, Chris Carson and then metcalfin Lockett.

1029
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: That's the big four. There's not much to say about

1030
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: those guys. You're happy if you get any of those

1031
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: guys wherever they're going. But given that, you know Wilson

1032
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: is very efficient and there's could be a higher paced

1033
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: team than we've seen in years past. Is there any

1034
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: other way to invest in this offense? Do you think

1035
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: outside of those big four? Like I've seen Gerald Everett

1036
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: start to creep into the top one fifty in some

1037
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: in some spots, is he would he be the guy

1038
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: you target or are you just kind of staying away

1039
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 3: or somebody else?

1040
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: No, I think Everett is an interesting flyer, especially again

1041
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: this tight end two tiers getting decimated, so he's all

1042
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: the way up to tight end seventeen for me. So

1043
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: he's a He's a good way invest in this offense.

1044
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: He could end up being the number three target. You know,

1045
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: he's already familiar with offensive corner Shane Waldron from their

1046
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: time here in LA with the Rams, so I think

1047
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: he could be an interesting flyer. And you know, being

1048
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: the number three target and a Russell Wilson led offense,

1049
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with that. So I think out

1050
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: of all those guys, I think Everett would be the

1051
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: best way to invest in this offense cheaply. But again,

1052
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: I've mentioned it before in this pod that Chris Carson

1053
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: is definitely my most targeted Seahawks. I get him consistently

1054
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: at the end of the RB two tier. I think

1055
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: he's just a lock for the workhorse role. The only

1056
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: downside with Chris Carson, though, is he tends to be

1057
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: a violent runner and take big hits, so he's usually

1058
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: going to miss the game or two every year. But

1059
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: if facted that in already, and he's my running back fourteen.

1060
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: But Chris Carson, I think is the best Bank Feter

1061
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: Buck player on the Seahawks.

1062
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I actually, for me, I get locked even more, and

1063
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: I get a lot of Carson, but I get lock

1064
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: it even more because just with my draft strategy, I'm

1065
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: usually drafting wide receivers in that range over running back.

1066
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: So you know, as good as Metcalf is, Russell Wilson

1067
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 3: is just so good that he's going to support two receivers.

1068
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: There tends to be a very concentrated target share.

1069
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: There in Seattle and so, and the better Metcalf is,

1070
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: the more it's just going to open things up for Carson.

1071
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: So excuse me for well, for Carson too, but for

1072
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: a time all everybody. Yeah, right, So I'm not worried

1073
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: about like Metcalf, Oh he's going to have this umongous breakout,

1074
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: because he already did.

1075
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: But in Lockett's going to disappear me.

1076
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 3: Last year, you know, it seems like Metcalf went off,

1077
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 3: and he did. He had thirteen hundred and three yards,

1078
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: but you look at the targets and it was Lockett

1079
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: one thirty two, Metcalf one twenty nine receptions, lock At

1080
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: one hundred Metcalf eighty three. So Lockett was right there,

1081
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: it's not going to be as sexy, but he's still

1082
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: a very good receiver. They both had ten touchdowns and

1083
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: a lot of that is just you know.

1084
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: He's had that he's he's had that.

1085
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: Experience that with Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson's gonna look

1086
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: for him anytime Metcalf is covered, and uh, that's what

1087
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. As far as like investing in the offense, Yeah,

1088
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: I've warmed up to ever a little bit. I think

1089
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: the tight end doesn't isn't usually a huge part of

1090
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: the offense aside from that like Will Disley, those random

1091
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: Will Disley like breakout stretches.

1092
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: But uh, I think for a deep sleeper, I don't mind.

1093
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: D Eskridge the rookie, because he's he's going essentially for

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00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: free in that range where you say, okay, like Freddie

1095
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: Swain had think we know barely any production and David

1096
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 3: Moore as those kind of co number three wide receivers

1097
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: last year, So there's there's a spot for somebody to

1098
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: emerge as that number three target. And you know, evert

1099
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: you're having to pay a little more for him now,

1100
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: whereas eskridgees is free and they could scheme him some looks.

1101
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: So that's that's the guy I actually love targeting a

1102
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: little more.

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00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't hate Everett at all.

1104
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: It's just Escridge is even freer than Everett and I

1105
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: think has similar upsides, So it's him for me. But yeah,

1106
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: I think definitely an offense that I would not shy

1107
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: away from because they're already super efficient and if they

1108
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: increased the pace, I mean, it could just get silly

1109
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: because it could be like that that that first eight

1110
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: weeks of Russell Wilson last year.

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00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: Like all year long.

1112
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Speaker 1: So I would love that.

1113
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so that that would be great. Let's

1114
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: close it out with the Rams. The this offense to me,

1115
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it's like it's not being talked

1116
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: about enough. How good this offense could be.

1117
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: Now that Sean McVay has a quarterback that he's comfortable with,

1118
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: because he was already great at scheming up ways for

1119
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: Jared Goff to throw for like forty five hundred yards

1120
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: and be very efficient. But now you got Stafford, you

1121
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: got somewhat of an incentive to pass more. Because Cam

1122
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: Akers went down and you know, even Xavier Jones went down,

1123
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: you have you know, kind of a new running back

1124
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: in Michelle and one that's still a little unproven. And

1125
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: so what are the ceilings you think for like Woods

1126
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: and Cup and Higbee.

1127
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: I think they're very high. I've been talking about them.

1128
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where you've been.

1129
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: But I mean obviously, yes, I mean you know.

1130
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I love you know, Robert Woods, Cooper

1131
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: Cup in this wide receiver two tier. I love Tyler

1132
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: Lockett as well, like I love this entire tier. But

1133
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: those entire division. Yeah, that the entire division. Brandon Ayuk

1134
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, Woods and Cup, like their ceilings

1135
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: glevated a ton with Matthew Stafford. Let me mention these

1136
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: stats one more time this offseason. So last year, the

1137
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: Rams ranked twenty fourth and pass attempts twenty plus yards

1138
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: or more. That should go up. With Matthew Stafford, they

1139
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: ranked thirtieth and pass attempts in the red zone last

1140
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: season and those numbers look even worse than he considered.

1141
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: They had the twelfth most pass attempts. So you know,

1142
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was holding back their ceilings. Obviously, he boosted

1143
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: their floor because he targeted them so heavily. But you know,

1144
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: Staffer is going to give them so many more of

1145
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: these high value targets, deep targets, end zone targets that

1146
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, these guys have legit wide receiver one potential.

1147
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love targeting Woods and Cup. And then honestly,

1148
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, guys like d Jacks in a best ball format,

1149
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with that. You know, the five

1150
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: games he's gonna play, he's gonna go off, we know that.

1151
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: But even like a guy like Van Jefferson, I think

1152
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: the wide receiver three in this offense now is a thing.

1153
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Back remember when Jared Goff was really good. We were,

1154
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, playing guys like Brandon Cooks, Cooper Cup and

1155
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: Robert Woods every week. I think we could see an

1156
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: offense like that now. So I love investing in this offense.

1157
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee as well. I think he's a low end

1158
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: tight end one. So I think Matthew Stafford just he

1159
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: elevates everybody's ceiling in this offense.

1160
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get with Woods especially, you get those

1161
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: rush attempts which really enhance his you know, floor ceiling combos.

1162
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: So I actually have Woods and Cup and this might

1163
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: sound surprising, but I have Woods and Cup ranked ahead

1164
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 3: of Alan Robinson because Wow, I think when you're looking

1165
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: at Robinson, it's gonna have to be a lot of

1166
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: volume driven.

1167
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so volume driven.

1168
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: Where Woods and Cup already have the volume anyway, and

1169
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: they have the you know, they have the track record,

1170
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: but their ceilings haven't really been accessed in a way

1171
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: that Matthew Stafford could access them. So I think their

1172
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: high floor, high ceiling plays and like Sean McVay is brilliant,

1173
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: and whereas like Matt Naggy is kind of you know,

1174
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: we've seen, you know, we've seen kind of a little

1175
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: bit of a downturn there.

1176
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Robinson should be fine.

1177
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like in terms of ceiling, I think

1178
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: Woods in Cup have a little bit more touchdown upside

1179
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: in this offense. And I just think, you know, they

1180
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 3: might not have to do it all on short on

1181
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: short stuff now with Stafford, so remember when he had

1182
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: like was it Golden Tate, Marvin Jones, and Kenny Galladay.

1183
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: I think it was for one year and they were

1184
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: all very productive. Like it could be like that, except

1185
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: Deshaun Jackson is not going to be as high volume guys.

1186
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 3: So I do love him in basketball, but I mean

1187
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: just look at where that's gonna leave Cup and Woods.

1188
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: Those guys could be like big weekend week out producers,

1189
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: and they have already been. I mean, Cooper Cup always

1190
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: finishes in you know, the top fifteen or twenty, you know,

1191
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: eating points for game war or just total production. Same

1192
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: thing for Woods and so I don't really see much

1193
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: downside with them, and I see a whole lot of upside.

1194
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: And they usually go after a couple.

1195
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: Of guys like you know, like a Robinson, who yeah,

1196
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: he's fine, he's gonna he should get a lot of targets.

1197
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: But you know, the upside might be even with fields

1198
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: at quarterback, like I think, I think I'd still prefer

1199
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: like this Matthew Stafford Sean McVay offense by a lot.

1200
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, love love Woods and Cup, and I think

1201
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: those guys are great guys to target in that third

1202
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: fourth round. Just another reason why I'm almost always going

1203
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 3: receiver in that range. It's just it's hard for me

1204
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: to pass up these guys consistently because they're just such

1205
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: good force ceiling combos. So yeah, Woods, Cup, go draft

1206
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: those guys. You would not be disappointed. And that's uh, yeah,

1207
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