1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh my stars, top mom, Casey Anthony, shut your pie hole. 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: We don't say the S word, which is stupid or 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: shut up in our home, but just this one time, 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: shut up woman good cravy as if we want to 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: hear her preaching about. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Anything, tom Mom. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: Casey Anthony made national headlines after she was accused of 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: murdering her two year old little girl, Kelly, And now 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: she is preaching, y'all, she is preaching criticizing Vice President 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: Vance's defense of an ICE officer who shot Renee Nicole 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Good in Minneapolis. I'm not our arguing about Ice right now. 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: I have opinions about what happened. That's not the point. 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: The point is Casey Anthony, please stop talking. I'm Nancy Grace. 15 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for 16 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: being with us. As we all sadly know, now talk 17 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: Mo'm Casey Anthony has a substack and she communicates on 18 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: that substack. 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Quote from those of us in the legal world, what woman, 20 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: why are you saying you're in the legal world. You 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: were trying for murder. 22 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: You were convicted on a couple of lesser counts. Oh, 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: from those of us in the legal world. You should 24 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: try consulting with someone other than the corrupt Attorney General 25 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: of the US to get your information about how our 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: legal system and our constitution are applied to all citizens, 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: yourself included. You know what you're not in the legal world. 28 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: You were trying for murder and many people, including me, 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: you're guilty. And you tried to drag your own father, 30 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: George Anthony, through the mud, claiming he was responsible. You 31 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: let your mother get up on the stand and perjure 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: herself to save your sorry skin. And now you are preaching. 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: Girl, get out of the pulpit. 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Let's just have a little refresher about top Mom Casey 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: Anthony's indictment. 36 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: Today. It's a three year old team Kelly. 37 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: That brings it back home to the Discovery. 38 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: And I went and looked at the spot where Kelly 39 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: Anthony's body was bagged in trash bags. 40 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: From top Mom Casey Anthony's home and. 41 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Thrown in a swampy area covered in trash and use tires, just. 42 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Out of a swamp. And that is. 43 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Where Kelly decomposed. This beautiful little girl, the shining light 44 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: of her grandparents' eyes in a swamp, decaying. 45 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: And now this. 46 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've 47 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in 48 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going 49 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that 50 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for 51 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: my daughter. 52 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I need to see that again. 53 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: That's from Casey Anthony's officialtok account at Casey Anthony underscore 54 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: substec ps. If you don't know what substec means, it 55 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: means money to her in her pocket. 56 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I'll explain it. I've got to see this again. 57 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've 58 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in 59 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going 60 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that 61 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate. 62 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 6: For my daughter. 63 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a top one. 64 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: Ksey Anthony's TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore substec whoa 65 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: whoa whoa legal advocate. 66 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: No you're not. 67 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: You were trying for the murder of your little girl. 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Legal advocate. 69 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: My rear end. And who did I hear her say 70 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: she's been involved. Let me look at this in the 71 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: legal system since two thy eleven. You mean when you 72 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: were tried for murder? Joining me an all star panel. 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: But I just want to remind everybody what this is 74 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: really about. No one would even know her name if 75 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: it weren't for this. 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: Something wrong. My god, it was car to day and 77 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: it's not like this sent a dead body from car. 78 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 7: Okay, what is the three year old's name? 79 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: Kaylee? C A Y L E. E. Anthony Hailey Anthony, Yeah, Okay, 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 4: she white, black her Hispanics she's white. How long has 81 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 4: she been missing for? I have not seen her since 82 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: the seventh of June? 83 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: What is her date of verse. 84 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: Eight nine? Two thousand, Oh god, you free? Two thousand 85 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: and five? True? Listen, what dreams? Listen? 86 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: That is Cindy Anthony Kelly's grandmother calling reporting her missing. 87 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Not taught mom, her own mother, advocate for my daughter. 88 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Advocate for my daughter, who call nine one one, not 89 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: you listen? 90 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: Didn't talk a month ago? 91 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 7: Okay, I mean I understand, Can you just can you 92 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 7: calm down for me for this minute? And I don't 93 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 7: even know what's going on. 94 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna chin. 95 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: Advocate for my daughter. Joining me. Joe Scott Morgan. 96 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: Or now death investigative professor at Jacksonville State University, author 97 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and star of 98 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan Reality check. You know, 99 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: finding out that top Mom is offering a substack. In 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: other words, you go listen to her and she gets money. 101 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: By the way, Joe Scott already just her announcement as 102 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: has racked up over. 103 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: Three million views. She gets paid for that. If there 104 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: are ads in there, all that money. 105 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: Is going into her pocket. Harsh reality. No one would 106 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: even know her name if she had not been charged 107 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: with murdering her daughter. 108 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what happened to Kelly. 109 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 8: I can tell you what the end result was. All 110 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 8: we have left now are skeletal remains period. As a 111 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 8: matter of fact, her body, Nancy was so badly decayed 112 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 8: after they recovered it from that brushy area out there 113 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 8: in that swamp like environment, that they could not even 114 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 8: come to a conclusion about what her specific cause of death. 115 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 8: It's non specified homicidal means and it's as. 116 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Scott, excuse me, wasn't duct tape wrapped around the baby's 117 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: mouth and nose with a heartstick or stuck on it. 118 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: That gives me a pretty good idea as. 119 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: To how she died. You think you could survive with 120 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: duct tape wrapped around your nose and mouth. 121 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 8: I'll go one better than that, Nancy. It wasn't around 122 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 8: her nose and mouth, it was around her skull. Just 123 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 8: let that sink in, just for a second. That's what 124 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 8: was done to this child. She's cast off like garbage, Nancy. 125 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 8: And then you know, insult to injury. Here. We're talking 126 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 8: a month down range before anyone says peep about her missing, 127 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 8: and all the while she's been out there just in 128 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 8: a state of decay, Nancy. And as you know, Florida 129 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 8: is a very harsh environment. There was hardly anything left 130 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 8: that scientifically we could really hang our hats on to 131 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 8: try to understand what it actually happened to her. 132 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, just saying that, Joe Scott Morgan and think 133 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: about it every day, every day, tot Mom Casey Anthony 134 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: would pass that spot, as I said, it's about ten 135 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: houses down from the Anthony home and you come out 136 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: of their culd to sec and if you turn right, 137 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: well you have to pass it, do you know, Jos 138 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever told you this. 139 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: I have never been back to where my fiance was murdered. Never. 140 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I could stand to look at it. 141 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I know that's where he was murdered. 142 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: But she passed this every day and never said a word. 143 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: Day by day. 144 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: Think about it, Joe Scott, as each hour passes. What 145 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: happened to Kelly's body? When did flies show up? It 146 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: lay eggs? 147 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: When did he. 148 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: Her flesh start slipping off of her body? I know 149 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: it's harsh, Joe Scott, but this is the reality. 150 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're you're right, And in that environment, it's so 151 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 8: harsh down there, Nancy. And to think that this person 152 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 8: could have moved back and forth across this and you know, 153 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: court said that she didn't know, or at least they 154 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 8: didn't find her guilty of it. But come on, give 155 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 8: me a break. You know you're driving by this every 156 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 8: single day, and that precious little angel is out there 157 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 8: and it stated O kay, I can't even begin to 158 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 8: plumb the depths of how. 159 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: What happens first, Joe Scott? What happens first? But her 160 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: body is in that bag? What happens in the first 161 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: five hours of her body being that bag. 162 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, just within the first five hours, particularly in Florida, 163 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 8: You're going to have the presence of flies being attracted 164 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 8: to this area and people say, well, she's in a bag. 165 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 8: You know, they know flies always find a way they 166 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 8: get in and then they begin or they kind of 167 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 8: aid in this process of decomposition and it's sped up 168 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 8: very very quickly in that environment. Nancy, and having worked 169 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 8: in Louisiana, that's very similar to this. I've actually seen 170 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 8: flags laid on the eyes and the mouth and the 171 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 8: nose within three hours of death. 172 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 2: Yet today top Mom Casey Anthony returns to tick talk stardom. 173 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: There are people close to me who have been targeted 174 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 5: and attacked recently. 175 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: They're also people close to me who have had some. 176 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: Recent things occur and when necessary, people needed to step 177 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: up myself included. 178 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: That is from at Casey Anthony Underscore Substack. Okay, I 179 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: just heard her say. 180 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: There are people close to me that I've been targeted, 181 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: like Kelly. 182 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 7: Is your is your daughter there? 183 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: I wind have song with them? 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 7: Is your daughter there? 185 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? I stupid her? 186 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 7: Do you winded by stupid her? Thank you? 187 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: I call them two hours ago, man and taught here. 188 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: Finally there is a very. 189 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: Prom ma'am, ma'am. 190 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: Okay, they want to talk to question. 191 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, yes, Hi, Well can you can you tell 192 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: me what's. 193 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: Going on a little bit? I'm sorry, can you tell 194 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: me what what's going on? And my daughter has been 195 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: received for the last thirty one days and you know 196 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: who has her? I know who, Arthur. I've tried to 197 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: contact her. I actually received the song hole today now 198 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: from a number of this is no longer in service. 199 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 4: I didn't get to speak to my daughter for about 200 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: a minute. 201 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 7: Okay, did you guys follow me for a vehicle storm? 202 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: And yes, my mom did. 203 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: All of that is a lie. She is describing her daughter. 204 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: Being taken by the nanny, and today she's saying people 205 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: close to me have been targeted and attacked. Really, what 206 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: about Zenaida Fernanda's Glazales. That's a real person that was 207 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: attacked and wrongly named by her as a kidnapper. 208 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: That's a real person. 209 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: That's a woman wandering around minding her own business. They 210 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: got dragged into top mom Casey Anthony's vortex. 211 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Listen. 212 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: She even spells the name for Peep's sake, you have 213 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: her do a name. 214 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: Her name is Ray, that's Fernando and Zallas. 215 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Who is that? 216 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: Maybe she's been my nanny for fout a year, almost 217 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: two years. 218 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty 219 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 7: one days ago? 220 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: I've been looking for her and have gone through other 221 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: resources to try to find her, which was stupid. Okay, 222 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 4: can you can you give me the name of the 223 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: ban Nanni again? 224 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 9: Like sell it out for me, Niva, the n ai 225 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 9: Ba last favor Nandez Fernandez hyphen Gonzales. 226 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: Man, what a liar she even knows how to put 227 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: the hyphen Gonzales. There's actually a real person out there 228 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 2: names in Night Fernandez Gonzales. 229 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: And isn't it true? To Shanna Butler joining me right now? 230 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: Investigative reporter WFTV Channel nine, Florida. This jurisdiction that when 231 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: the apartment where tot Mom says she dropped off baby 232 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: Kelly was found by police, it had been vacant for 233 00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty days, one hundred and forty days 234 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: no one had lived there. 235 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Then when she took police to. 236 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: Where she worked, to Universal Studios, she got all the 237 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: way in the car with cops all the way to 238 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: the security gate, all the way through the security gate 239 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: to the building, out of the car, walking in the 240 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: building to find her boss, and she says. 241 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Okay, you got me. 242 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I haven't worked here in three years, all the time 243 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: wearing her universal uniform with her tag, her parents speaking. 244 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: She worked while she sat on the sofa and eight 245 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: chips while they paid for Kelly. 246 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: Isn't all of that true? 247 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 10: That is all true? I remember back then. I mean, 248 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 10: I did nothing but this story for three years here 249 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 10: in Orlando. And I remember when we talked to the 250 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 10: investigators after all of this happened, they said they had 251 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 10: never met a better liar than Casey Anthony, that she 252 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 10: was so stuck to those stories, even when they were 253 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 10: going through universe on there and she said, oh yeah, 254 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 10: I don't work here. She was so defiant, they said 255 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 10: about the story she was telling, almost looking at them like, 256 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 10: you're a bunch of idiots. Hear what I'm saying. This 257 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 10: is what happened, And she stuck with those stories, and. 258 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: They said that she was. 259 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: It was. 260 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 10: It was a tough interview. I mean, look at her, 261 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 10: you wouldn't think that she would be so married to 262 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 10: those stories. That these investigators could break her. They said 263 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 10: she just kept going and kept going and kept going 264 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 10: with those stories. That she either believed those lies or 265 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 10: was just dead set on trying to make sure everyone 266 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 10: else believed them too. 267 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 11: I literally have nothing right now. I am so. 268 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Hurt by everything. 269 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 12: And I watched that episode. 270 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 11: Of Nancy Grace the stuff that was being said about me, 271 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 11: and you don't. You guys are not understanding my. 272 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 6: Side on this. 273 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: What side is that that you murdered your daughter and 274 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: left it to decay in a swamp ten houses down from. 275 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: The Anthony home and then went by her every day. 276 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: Wait, maybe you didn't drive by every day, because in 277 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: those thirty one days that your daughter was decomposing, you 278 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: were slung up at your boyfriend's house with all of 279 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: his roommates. That's romantic, and according to him, you never 280 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: acted like anything was wrong at all. I guess it 281 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: bothers me more that Kelly was decomposing with flies all 282 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: over her body while you were making spaghetti for him 283 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: and his roommates. Okay, that said in the last hours, 284 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: toddm'm casey Anthony's return to stardom TikTok fame. 285 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it's real. Listen. 286 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 5: For those of you who don't know, my name is 287 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents are 288 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This 289 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 5: is not in response to anything that they have said 290 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: or done. That's not to say that I'm not going 291 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 5: to respond at some point to some of the things 292 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 5: that they have said and done. 293 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: That was from the TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore 294 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: substate speaking of George Anthony that you dragged through the 295 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: mud your own father. 296 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Listen. 297 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 13: I remember being asked about this at the very beginning 298 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 13: when I talked about walking up to that car and 299 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 13: getting about three feet away from it and the smell 300 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 13: that emanated from that car. I could smell it three 301 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 13: feet away on the passenger side when I opened up 302 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 13: that card tour. Yeah, it smelled like decomposition, human decomposition. 303 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 2: That's George Anthony, who I consider to be a friend 304 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: from our friends at wesh WSH two News. But he 305 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: had to take the stand and describing the overwhelming smell 306 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: of human decomposition during the search for his granddaughter and 307 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: straight out to Shannon Butler and WFTV. 308 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: That car, that smelled of human d coop whose. 309 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: Car was that Casey Anthony's speaking of George listen. 310 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 14: In Casey Anthony's version of events on June sixteenth, two 311 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 14: thousand and eight, Casey Anthony claimed she wasn't feeling well 312 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 14: and got Kaylle to lay down with her. Anthony claims 313 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 14: she was woken by her father shaking her and asking 314 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 14: where Kaylee was. 315 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 15: Kasey Anthony claims she saw her father, George Anthony, holding 316 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 15: Kaylee and that Kaylee was soaking wet. She further claims 317 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 15: that George Anthony handed Kealle to her, saying it was 318 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 15: all her fault. She claims George didn't want to call 319 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 15: nine one one and wasn't trying to resuscitate her, so 320 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 15: she left and stayed with her boyfriend at the time, 321 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 15: Tony Lazarro, for the next thirty one days. She claimed 322 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 15: she believed Kaylee was alive. 323 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand this. You're the defensatory Troy Slayton. 324 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: So she says she laid down for a nap, woke up, 325 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: Kelly was gone, and her dad. 326 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Said everything will be okay. 327 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: After she sees Kelle lifeless and drenched soaked with water, 328 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: so she says okay and goes this slings up with 329 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: the boyfriend for the next month. Just yes, Note does 330 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: that make sense to you? 331 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 12: Her grandparents took care of Kaylee all the time. This 332 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 12: was not unusual. They she was at their house, she 333 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 12: was with them, she was an integral part of the family. 334 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 12: And it's not unusual for grandparents to look after their granddaughter. 335 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 12: And this is a single mind. 336 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: I just want to say, if he's keeping a straight 337 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: face right now, Wait, children, I believe you. 338 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Do, don't you? 339 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 12: I absolutely do. 340 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So you see your child lifeless, lifeless, drenched, soaked in. 341 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: Water, and what do you do? 342 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: You leave and sling up at your lover's apartment for 343 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: thirty one days? 344 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 8: You know that her? 345 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 10: What are you? 346 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: What are you babbling about? What is this? Gibberius? 347 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 12: Sure the jury disagreed with you and agreed whiskey you 348 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 12: right now? 349 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Does it make sense to you? 350 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Is that what you would do if you saw your 351 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: child lifeless, drenched, sing? 352 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 12: You know, I knew that my child was dead. But 353 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 12: you know what's really interesting is that thirty one days. 354 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 12: It's interesting Suddenly the grandparents are calling the police, crying 355 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 12: in tears. Thirty one days after their granddaughter, who was 356 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 12: with them all the time, is gone. Suddenly on this 357 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 12: thirty first day, they're calling the police. 358 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: That's that's not what happened. 359 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: Shannon Butler joining me, let me refresh your recollection. Troy 360 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: s Layton Shannon WFTV. Isn't it true that during those 361 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: thirty one days, Top Mom, Casey Anthony, would repeatedly tell 362 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: her mother, Oh, we're here, We're there, We're at the 363 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: grocery store, We're at Target. Oh, the nanny has her 364 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: at the beach. She lied throughout and would never let 365 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: Grandma Cindy Anthony speak to Kelly. 366 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Isn't that true? That is correct? 367 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 10: I mean she did give her parents a lot of 368 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 10: stories pretending that Kaylee was okay. I think that the 369 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 10: parents were concerned about it, but there was no indication 370 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 10: at that point that she was missing or had disappeared, 371 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 10: So it took some time. In their defense, you know, 372 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 10: it took some time because of the stories that Casey 373 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 10: was telling them. 374 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: They had no reason to think anything was amiss. 375 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: Back to Rob Dick joining me, this is Top Mom's 376 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: former bodyguard now owner of Renegade Investigations. As a matter 377 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: of fact, isn't it true that when you dealt with 378 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: top mom Casey Anthony, she. 379 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Acted cool as a cucumber, like nothing was. 380 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: Wrong the entire time, that entire thirty one days that 381 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: she apparently had this baby, she acted like nothing was wrong. 382 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: My point is her demeanor. What was her demeanor when 383 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: you were around her? 384 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Rob Dick? 385 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 16: Definitely not a person who is quote missing a child. 386 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 16: I mean she never acted like that. She acted like 387 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 16: there was nothing wrong. Kaylee's name never came up. I mean, 388 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 16: this is the time when she's locked the way in jail, 389 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 16: comes out her first public exposure. I mean, what would 390 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 16: a normal mother do be asking where are we at? 391 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 16: What's going on? Anybody heard anything? Not once is she 392 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 16: bringing up Kayley? 393 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: You mean you had her in the car with you, 394 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: You drove her to her parents' home where she has 395 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: been free loading for years. At any point with her 396 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: in the car, did she cry? Did she seem upset 397 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: that she say? I can't I've got to go find 398 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: my daughter. I can't find Kelly. Where's Kelly? Have you 399 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: heard about Kelly? What's the latest? I didn't have TV, 400 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: I didn't have ready. What's happening with my daughter? Did 401 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: that ever happen Rob Dick. 402 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 16: Not once, not once did she bring her up or 403 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 16: even seem to care about looking for It was George 404 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 16: and Cindy that were trying to find any details, not her. 405 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: I have someone here that I need to be arrested 406 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: in my home there there right? Hell, hi for the 407 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: most child three that's been missing for a month, a 408 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: three year old? Yeah, have you reported that. I'm trying 409 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: to do that now, ma'am? Okay, what did the person 410 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: do that you need arrested my daughter. 411 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 17: For? What? 412 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: For stealing an autumn and storing money? I already spoke 413 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: with someone. They said they would patch me through the 414 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: Orlando Sheriff's Department, have a deputy here. I was in 415 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: the car. I was going to give work to the 416 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: police station and my one's open. They said they would 417 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: bring a deputy to my home when I got home 418 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: to call them. 419 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 10: So she's still your vehicle? 420 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: Yes? 421 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: When did you do that? 422 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: On the thirtieth? I just got it back from the impound. 423 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: I'd like to speak to an officer. Can you have 424 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: someone come out to my house? 425 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 426 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: Now, hold on a moment. 427 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: Not only is Tom mom Casey Anthony preaching, chewing out 428 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: Vice President Vance about Ice. She also is making time 429 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: to party party at the Avalon Beach House, Delray Beach, Florida. Okay, 430 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: now this is not an AI generated photo. Tom, I'm 431 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: Casey Anthony is the life of the party at the 432 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: Member's Only Palm Beach reality show. 433 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: Found on a video clip. What happened? She was at 434 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: one of the. 435 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: Cast members, DJ Maria Cosamanisi's DJ party at the Avalon 436 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: Beach House. Why isn't she out doing something good for 437 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: the world instead of showing up and yet another push 438 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: up bra partying Anthony at the new song launch party, 439 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: her face clearly seen facing DJ Maria up on the stage. 440 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: At some point, Top Mom Casey Anthony gets angry. Is 441 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: it because she's caught on camera partying in her pushup bra? Hey, 442 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: I don't have anything against pushup bras. I'm fine with that. 443 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: But the reason I'm mad about it here is because 444 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: during the Top Mom Casey Anthony investigation, I viewed footage 445 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: of her buying beer and pushup brast Oh gosh, I 446 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: guess it was a Walmart or a target somewhere that 447 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: had really good surveillance video and this is while her 448 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: daughter was quote missing, Yeah, that's why. 449 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: I'm so irritated. 450 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: And then also while her daughter was missing missing in quotes, 451 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: I ate dead at her hands she was partying, and 452 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: yet another pushup bra at the Fusion Nightclub's Hot Body contest, 453 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: wrapped around a stripper pole. Look, I'm not the church lady. 454 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't care. You can wrap yourself around a stripper 455 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: pole anytime you want and you won't hear a peep 456 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: out of me, But not while your two year old 457 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: baby is quote missing translation dad in your trunk. 458 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: That said, let's take a review of. 459 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: The evidence that I would think would be weighing heavily 460 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: on top mom Casey Anthony's mind. 461 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 6: But instead, I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. 462 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 5: I've been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and 463 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: in this capacity, I feel that it's necessary, if I'm 464 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: going to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, 465 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: that I start to advocate for myself and also advocate 466 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: for my daughter. 467 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: Advocate for your daughter, legal advocate my rear end. Your 468 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: exposure to the justice system was when you were tried 469 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: for murder. That is from at Casey Anthony underscore substack 470 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: and it will be a cold day in h double 471 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: l before I listen to one episode and give one 472 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: red penny to top mom? 473 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: How long are you listening for? My daughter's been for 474 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: the last thirty one years? 475 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 7: Why are you calling now? Why didn't she call it 476 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 7: thy one days ago? 477 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 4: I have been looking for her humid. 478 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Lies, all lies. 479 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: I want you to see on Twitter what populated last night? 480 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: And I couldn't agree with you more, Chris says Nancy 481 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: Casey Anthony's on TikTok claiming to be a legal advocate 482 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: justice for Peyton When she said she was advocating for 483 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: her daughter, I felt physically ill. Seeing her follower count 484 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: up to over forty thousand, is nauseated. What the f 485 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: is wrong with these people camping life? 486 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: With all the lies she told about her daughter? Who 487 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: would believe a word? She says Sandy Cole, I could 488 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: stomach sending you the video. 489 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: But guess who's made a social media appearance and claiming 490 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 2: to be a legal advocate. I hope you're sitting down, 491 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: Layla says, where is Nancy Grace? Why is Kasey Anthony 492 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: on TikTok trying to make a platform for herself. 493 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: Go yell at her, don't worry. I will, Lauren Colin. 494 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to I can't wait to hear you break 495 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: down her filthy lies. Okay, let me go to my 496 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: colleague Joe Scott Morgan just for another reality check. 497 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: Joe Scott while we are. 498 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: Watching Top Mom Casey Anthony's return to stardom and TikTok 499 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: fame fame. I never actually thought those words would come 500 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: out of my mouth, but they are. This isn't her 501 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: first stab at making money off her dead daughter again, 502 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: how was Kelly's body found? Just turned three? She's got 503 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: that big right there listening. 504 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's found decomposing in the swamp Nancy after being 505 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 8: cast off. But I've got one more for you as well. 506 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 8: Going back to what Rob had said earlier with her 507 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 8: in the car with him, her reaction. Remember what Dad said, 508 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 8: He went to the car and he smelled decomposition when 509 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 8: he got into the car. That doesn't just miraculously happen. 510 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 8: You know, you can take a deceased person and put 511 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 8: them in the car and you're not going to have 512 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 8: a whiff of decomposition. It takes time for that to 513 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 8: produce itself and present. That baby was in that car 514 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 8: for a protracted period of time, traveling all about all 515 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 8: the while she's living the party life, you. 516 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Know, Dodor Bethany Marshall. 517 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: When the trial occurred, we moved to Orlando for the 518 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: duration of the trial, and I had the twins with me. 519 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: Do you know how many times I wish now I 520 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 2: could have him at that age again, to you know, 521 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: take care of them, to love them, to brush their hair. 522 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: To take them to fun places to go. 523 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: And I think about this child in. 524 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: A trash bag. 525 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 18: Nancy Kaylee was only a pawn for Casey Anthony. Listen 526 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 18: to what she says on this TikTok. She's going to 527 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 18: be a legal advocate for her daughter. She's just using 528 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 18: her daughter to manipulate the public to garner sympathy. You 529 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 18: know why she was living with her parents, right, George 530 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 18: and Cindy. She was living with them because she relegated 531 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 18: the care of her daughter to the grandparents. And finally, 532 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 18: Cindy Anthony goes and sees a therapist, and the therapist 533 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 18: says to Cindy Anthony, you need to get your daughter 534 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 18: to start taking care of the granddaughter. That is what 535 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 18: precipitated all of this. At this Cindy came home and 536 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 18: said to Kaylee, to Casey, you need to start taking 537 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 18: care of Kaylee. 538 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Well you know what happened. Then. 539 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 18: Casey had only been using her daughter as a pawn 540 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 18: with her own grandparents. So as you used to say, 541 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 18: she could lie on the sofa, eat chips, go out 542 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 18: with other people, you know, just live the high life. 543 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 18: This little girl was only used by her mother. And 544 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 18: anybody who begins to watch those TikTok videos is going 545 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 18: to participate in that exploitation of a child. 546 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Bethany. I managed to get myself together. 547 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: One of the cardinal rules of trying a case or 548 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: analyzing a case is don't put yourself in the shoes 549 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: of the victim. And I just did that thinking about 550 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: my own children at that tender age. I had them 551 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: with me while I covered the Top Mom Ksey Anthony 552 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: trial and investigated it myself. 553 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: But in the very latest Top. 554 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: Mom Casey Anthony's return to TikTok stardom. 555 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: For any idiot that wants to pay for it. 556 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: Listen, for those of you who don't know, my name 557 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 5: is Kasey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. My parents 558 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. 559 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 5: This is not in response to anything that they have 560 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: said or done. That's not to say that I'm not 561 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 5: going to respond at some point to some of the 562 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: things that they have. 563 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 6: Said and done. 564 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure she's going to attack her parents 565 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: because she once she ride her daughter's corpse to Helen back, 566 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: then she'll have to find somebody else to attack, and 567 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: that would be George and Cindy. 568 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: That is from at Casey. 569 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: Anthony Underscore substack, that's the new TikTok accounts. 570 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: And speaking of George, he passed a Polly Tom Mom. 571 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Can't say that, listen. I didn't know where she was at, correct. 572 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 16: That's all I'm asking. So the question again, did you 573 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 16: knowingly conceal Keaylly's wedlines. 574 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: From our friends at any So the story went from 575 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where Kelly is to oh, yeah, you 576 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: know what. I was taking a NAT with Kelly and 577 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: I woke up. 578 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: She was gone, and I. 579 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: Started looking for her and the next thing I know, 580 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: my dad showed up and she was lifeless, drenched in water, 581 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: and I just went away and had sex with my 582 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: boyfriend for thirty one days. I thought everything was just 583 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: be fine. Well it went from that too. George Anthony 584 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: molested me and my daughter, and then he killed my 585 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: daughter to cover up the molestation. But there's another theory 586 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: as to why tot Mom hatched the molestation story. 587 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Listen. 588 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 19: Cindy Anthony claims in the new special on A and 589 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 19: E Casey Anthony's parents, the Light Detector Test, that the 590 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 19: reason her daughter, Casey Anthony accused her father of molestation 591 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 19: is because she found out that her father, George Anthony, 592 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 19: was the main witness to testify against her in front 593 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 19: of the grand jury, besides the Sheriff's Department detective. When 594 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 19: asked why he testified in front of the grand jury, 595 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 19: George Anthony says he believed his daughter, Casey Anthony belonged 596 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 19: in jail. 597 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: What about that defense attorney Troy Slayton joining us out 598 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: of la You gave me this big song and dance 599 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: about the baby, but what about dragging your own father 600 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: through the mud. He got up and testified and subjected 601 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: himself to cross examination on all of her lies about 602 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: him molesting little Cally. 603 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: She didn't. 604 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: She sat there silent and watched hers be destroyed on 605 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: the stand, So it's okay with you that she drags 606 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: them through the mud as well. Suddenly, when she's on 607 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: trial for murder, Sheet remembers that her dad sex molested her. 608 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, she said her brother sex molested her too, 609 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: That she was molested and so was Cally. And the 610 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: whole reason. 611 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: Her father, a former cop, murdered Kelly is because he 612 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: was covering up molestation. 613 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: On a two year old little girl. Is that okay 614 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: with you that she. 615 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: Drags down everybody around her and now she wants my money. 616 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 12: Do we only respect a jury verdict when the verdict 617 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 12: comes out the way we want. I mean, I'm. 618 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Asking you about George. I'm asking you about George. 619 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: You've already gotten on your soapbox about a verdict that 620 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: the jurors say they regret what I'm asking you about George, 621 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: dragging him through the mud. 622 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 12: Dragging him through the mud. This is the jury believed 623 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 12: what she said. Obviously, the jury found that there was 624 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 12: Insufficiency's not. 625 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: What they said. Well, they said they didn't understand cause 626 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: of dead. 627 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking you about her changing story and then dragging 628 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: George through the mud. 629 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 12: This wasn't where six people thought one thing and six 630 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 12: people thought another thing or. 631 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: A going to address what she did to her father. 632 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it was true. 633 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 12: We don't know whether or not it was true. 634 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, you better watch out Troy Slayton, because there 635 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: is something called oral slander defamation. It'll be a cold 636 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: day in ag double l that I stand by unless 637 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: somebody claim George molested anybody you're calling Casey Antelly. 638 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: It may be true, not guilty. 639 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 12: She has been exonerated by our criminal justice system, and 640 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 12: everybody here is branding her a murderer. 641 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: And now she's making money off her daughter's dead body 642 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: and is threatening to drag George and Cindy to hell 643 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 2: them back again. 644 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: Listen, can't you hear her? For Pete's sake? 645 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 5: For those of you who don't know, my name is 646 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 5: Casey Anthony, my daughter is Kaylee Anthony. 647 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 6: My parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not 648 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: about them. 649 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: This is not in response to anything that they have 650 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: said or done. That's not to say that I'm not 651 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 5: going to respond at some point to some of the 652 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 5: things that they have said and done. 653 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: TikTok at, Casey Anthony, underscore substant. 654 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 7: Can you tell me a little bit. What's going on? 655 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 4: My daughter's been missing for the last thirty one days, 656 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: and you know who has her? I know who as 657 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 4: I've tried to contact her. I actually received a phone 658 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 4: call today now from a number that is no longer 659 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: in service. I did get to speak to my daughter 660 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 4: for thought a moment, about a minute. 661 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 7: Okay, did you guys call report a vehicle? 662 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 6: So on? 663 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: And yes, my mom did. Okay, Okay, so there's been 664 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: a vehicle so on too. No, this is my vehicle. 665 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 4: What be a core sword? It's a neat Pontiac sunfire. 666 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 7: Okay. I have deputy's on the way to you right 667 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 7: now for that. 668 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: But now you're now you're three old, three oldaughter is missing? 669 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: Kaylee Anthony kay white female? Yes, female, three years old, 670 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: eight nine day to birth. Yes, and you last saw 671 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 4: her a month ago. Thirty one Diggs from thirty one Diggs. 672 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 673 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: Todd. 674 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 2: I'm Casey Anthony rears her ugly head again, chewing out 675 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: VP Vance. Whether you agree with him or not about ice, 676 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: that's a whole other can of worms. I'm talking about 677 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: a dead baby. I'm talking about Kelly Anthony Todd. Mom 678 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: throws her dad and mom under the bus, chewing them out, 679 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: making them look bad at trial. 680 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at them, don't look at me. 681 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: So she takes her a substack that she w out 682 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: other people as a quote legal advocate. That hurts, but 683 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 2: then parties hardy at a Palm Beach DJ party. The 684 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: DJ party was filmed and included in the Netflix show 685 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: Members Only Palm Beach episode four that follows five women 686 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: and I question, how the hey did top mom Casey 687 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 2: Anthony let get into the party? Okay, very very strict, 688 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: rs VP's there. Back to Kelly, what happened to that 689 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: little child? That's sweet, sweet little child. 690 00:38:53,920 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 4: America. I mean I found out my grandsither had been 691 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 4: taking she has been missing for another third for mother. 692 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: That she's been missed. 693 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 4: Okay, and he's talking about a four year old little girl. 694 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: My daughter finally admitted that the baby turns foor. I 695 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 4: need to find her. 696 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 7: Your daughter admitted that your the baby is later, but it. 697 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 4: Tender took her month together that my daughter's been looking for. 698 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 4: I told you my daughter was missing for a month. 699 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 4: I just found her today that I can't find my granddaughter. 700 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: She just admitted to me that she's been trying to 701 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 4: find her herself. There's something wrong. I found my daughter's 702 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 4: car today and it's not like there's been a dead 703 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 4: daughter and it's the car. 704 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 7: Okay, what is the three year old's name? 705 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: Kaylee c A y l E E. Anthony, Kaylee Anthony? Yeah, okay? 706 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 7: She wipe black? Her Hispanic? 707 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: He's white. 708 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 7: How long has she been missing for? 709 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 4: I had not seen her since the seventh of June? 710 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 11: My entire life for me? Do you understand how I feel? 711 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 11: I mean, do you really understand how I feel on this? 712 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 11: But I'm just as much of a victim as the 713 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 11: rest of you. 714 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh, my stars, I'm just as much of a victim 715 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: as the rest of you. Speaking of all her lies 716 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: on George Rob Dick joining me Casey Anthony's former bodyguard 717 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: now owner Renegade Investigations, Rob Dick. Isn't it true that 718 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: after she was brought home the first time before she 719 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 2: was charged with murder, George Anthony physically attacked her, pushed 720 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: her up against the wall, demanding to know where's Kelly? 721 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: Isn't that true? 722 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 12: Yeah? 723 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 16: I was obvious at that point. George had no idea 724 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 16: he wanted the answers he knew that something had happened 725 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 16: to his granddaughter and he grabbed her. He wanted the 726 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 16: answers what happened to Kelley? 727 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: And this was in front of you as well as Cindy. 728 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: But at any time did she say, Dad, you had 729 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: her last. 730 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: Remember when you got her out of the pool after 731 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: you molested her. Did any of that happened, Rob Dick. 732 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 16: She never brought up those issues until trial. 733 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: Listen to more of Top Mom in her new money 734 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: making venture as a proponent. 735 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 5: For the LGBTQ community for legal community women's rates. I 736 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 5: feel that it's important that I use this platform that 737 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 5: was thrust upon me and now look at as a 738 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 5: blessing as opposed to the curse. 739 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 6: That it has been since two thousand and eight. 740 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: Translation, I'm broke and I need beer money. Quick question, 741 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: Joe Scott Morgan, When is menopause? 742 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: Just tell me quick? When is minopause? 743 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 8: It's variable depended upon the population and specific women. You 744 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 8: began to think about forty to fifty that time frame generally. 745 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: So we're really not even close. She could still have 746 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: a baby. 747 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: That's the only news that could be worse. 748 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 2: Right now, Tom Mom has her hand in my pocket 749 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: and everybody else is making money off her child. By 750 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 2: the way, that was from her TikTok account at Casey 751 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 2: Anthony Underscore substack. She could have another baby. It's possible. 752 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 2: Let's just all say a silent prayer that that doesn't happen. Okay, 753 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: Now more of top Mom and her money grab. 754 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 5: As a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for legal community 755 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 5: women's rates, I feel that it's important that I use 756 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 5: this platform that was thrust upon me and now look 757 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 5: at as a blessing as opposed to the curse that it. 758 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 6: Has been since two thousand and eight. 759 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: A proponent for the LGBTQ community. 760 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: What did they ask you to be their advocate? 761 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: They have enough problems with people attacking them every day 762 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 2: just because of who they are. 763 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: Nothing more with friends like this, who needs an enemy? 764 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't think. 765 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: They want you advocating for them, Tap Mom, What like 766 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 2: you advocated for your daughter, or your mother or your 767 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: father who you continue to take advantage of? That is 768 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: from a top Mom's TikTok account at Casey Anthony Underscore Substech. 769 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: There's more. Listen. 770 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: My goal is to continue to help give a voice 771 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 5: to people, to give people tools and resources that they 772 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 5: can utilize, so they actually know where they can turn to. 773 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: Now here is the woman. 774 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: Who is asking for your money talking about privacy. I've 775 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: never seen anything like it since Harry and Megan and 776 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: their worldwide Privacy tour. 777 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 5: Listen, I will explain in great detail why it's so 778 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 5: important for people to protect their privacy. It's not just 779 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 5: important to public figures. It's even more important to private individuals. 780 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 5: And with the current climate in our country especially, it's 781 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 5: that much more important. 782 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: The current climate. 783 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, top mom, the current climate has always 784 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 2: been anti. 785 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: Murdering your child. 786 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: That's from the official TikTok account at Casey Anthony underscore 787 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 2: subsect privacy. Let's see how maintain your privacy? Possibly don't 788 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: get in a bar fight. 789 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 6: So you just need anser. Yeah, well, if you even 790 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 6: said that to me, I can say your product. Yeah no, 791 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 6: I haven't exceived for stuff like this. 792 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 7: But i'm your file and restraining order. 793 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 5: I didn't have enough stream I hadn't actually tax scene 794 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 5: was not enough, or showing up where I was. 795 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 10: Was not enough. 796 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 4: This is enough in. 797 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: Front of witnesses. I'll tell you why I taught mom. 798 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 2: Kasey Anthony didn't file a restraining order after that bar 799 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 2: fight from our friends at Channel six because nobody would 800 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 2: believe that she was the victim. 801 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: There's more maintain privacy. Don't get in the bar fight again. 802 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: I apologize. 803 00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 5: I said, are prime ser val that I filmed her. 804 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: Here here as witnesses. 805 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 5: So I'm not trying to file her training where I 806 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 5: just wanted to dollar and I don't want to trading 807 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 5: where at it for six months and you go away, Well, we'll. 808 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: Docoment and I'll putting as verbal dreads because you say 809 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: that she can call me out and you can tell 810 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: she threw on me. 811 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 17: Along with her TikTok video, Casey Anthony announces her deal 812 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 17: with Substack, a subscription based service that allows writers and 813 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 17: podcasters to release material directly to subscribers. Subscriptions to Anthony's 814 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 17: Substack channel costs ten dollars a month or one hundred 815 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 17: dollars annually, although she offers free subscriptions with limited content. 816 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: One hundred dollars for an annual subscription to tot Mom, 817 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: Casey Anthony's new TikTok Take a look at tot Mom's 818 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: Mother from our friends at Ana and to sit here 819 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: and listen to her, keep making different stories as it fits. 820 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, doctor Bethany, why can't Cindy breathe? 821 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: Right there, Cindy is having a panic attack. 822 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 18: Her heart rate is elevated, She's overwhelmed. She can't think 823 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 18: because she is reminiscing about her granddaughter's death. She's having 824 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 18: intrusive thoughts and memories. She's thinking about that little girl 825 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 18: lying in a swamp. 826 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: She's being interviewed. So when people have trauma. 827 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 18: And they begin to talk about the original event, it 828 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 18: actually reactivates the trauma. It's as if they're in it. Nancy, 829 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 18: you've heard of the term flashback with people who have 830 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 18: post traumatic stress disorder. They have flashbacks. She is in 831 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 18: a flashback and George knows how to comfort her. You know, 832 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 18: this could have torn this couple apart, but they have 833 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 18: become more more and more solid over time. Unlike their daughter, 834 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 18: who's not bonded with the granddaughter, this couple is bonded 835 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 18: with each other and they care and love They care 836 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 18: for and love each other. 837 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: I just wonder what this new return. 838 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: Where top Mom rears her ugly head, most people would 839 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 2: run for the hills, as if they had seen a monster, 840 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: but apparently they're nearly three thousand subscribers as we go 841 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 2: to air. But this isn't her first money grab by far. Listen. 842 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 14: In her ongoing effort to get a spotlight back on 843 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 14: her face, Casey Anthony is pitching a reality TV show 844 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 14: about her life. The proposals submitted on her behalf would 845 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 14: provide an intimate window into the daily life of one 846 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 14: of the most controversial women in America. The proposal says, 847 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 14: in each episode, Casey will go about her day working, socializing, dating. 848 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 14: She will share her thoughts and opinions, and will give 849 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 14: an intimate look into her world. One Hollywood executive who 850 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 14: passed on the pitch says he hopes someone has the 851 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 14: guts to pick it up. He wants to watch it 852 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 14: a reality show. 853 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 2: In each episode, Top Mom goes about her day working, socializing, 854 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,959 Speaker 2: and dating too. Shannon Butler are joining me WFTV Channel nine. 855 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 2: I can only imagine what this is doing to George 856 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 2: and Cindy Anthony the re emergence of Top Mom. She 857 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 2: says she will address her parents. She just released a 858 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: statement threatening people if they slander her or defame her. 859 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: I can only imagine what she's going to say about them. 860 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 10: You know, we still see them from time to time. 861 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 10: They still live here, they still have their home, and 862 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 10: I think what people maybe forget about what happened to 863 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 10: George and Cindy. It wasn't just what happened during that, 864 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 10: but there were long lasting effects here. I mean, their 865 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 10: house was in foreclosure, They had a hard time, you know, 866 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 10: getting jobs. He was in a horrible, horrible car accident 867 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 10: a few years ago. A lot has happened to them, 868 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 10: and it is difficult even now when you see them, 869 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 10: you know, at the grocery store or at a restaurant, 870 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 10: to imagine what these folks are going through. And I 871 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 10: think for them, they're always bracing for the next thing. 872 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 10: I don't think that many people are surprised that she 873 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 10: has now re emerged. I think that was always going 874 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 10: to be the plan down the road. But I think 875 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 10: that they prepare themselves for whatever is going to come next, 876 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 10: because for them, it just seems to never ever end. 877 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: Let me remind everyone, as Troy Slayton has done so 878 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 2: tom im Casey Anthony was acquitted of murder. Of course, 879 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: the drors now say they regret that they were wrong, 880 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: but so what she was acquitted. But every time that 881 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 2: you subscribe or download her gibberish and lies, you're putting 882 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: another dollar in her pocket. 883 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 7: Who have her do a name? 884 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 4: Her name is Janaiva Fernando's goodallas, So is that baby? 885 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 4: She's been my nanny for about a year and a half, 886 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 4: almost two years. 887 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 7: Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call thirty 888 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 7: one days ago? 889 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: I have been looking for her and have gone through 890 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 4: other resources to try to find her, which was stupid. 891 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: And other Top Mom Casey Anthony news looks like Top 892 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: Mama has snagged another man? 893 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 3: What is he thinking? 894 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 2: She was spotted wearing always include her outfits a sleeveless, 895 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 2: nearly backless black top. 896 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: And jeans. 897 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 3: At the Season's Tickets Bar. 898 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 2: Manchester, New Hampshire with a bearded man does her dinner date? 899 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 3: Not know who he's eating with? I don't know. Maybe 900 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 3: some guys like that. 901 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, but I want to revisit her 902 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 2: on her substack, claiming I am a legal advocate. I've 903 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 2: been in the legal field since twenty eleven. When you're 904 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 2: charged with murder, listen to Top Mom Casey Anthony on 905 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 2: her substack. 906 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 5: I am a legal advocate. I am a researcher. I've 907 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 5: been in the legal field since twenty eleven, and in 908 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: this capacity, I feel that it's necessary if I'm going 909 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 5: to continue to operate appropriately as a legal advocate, that 910 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 5: I start to advocate for myself and also advocate for 911 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 5: my daughter. 912 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 2: Aside from having dinner with unsuspecting men, ranting and preaching 913 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 2: from her substack, and attending DJ parties. Top Mom Casey 914 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: Anthony also took a few moments to curse out, stating, 915 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: if you to Megan Kelly about one of Megan Kelly's 916 00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 2: podcast episodes, you would think at this point Hot Mom 917 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 2: would get it and go try to do something good 918 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: for the world. 919 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: You know, volunteer somewhere, do something good. 920 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: But no, that is not gonna happen. When you don't 921 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 2: know a horse, look at her track record. When you 922 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 2: don't know what someone's going to do, look at what 923 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: they've already done. We wait as just as unfolds for 924 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 2: Top Mom, Casey Anthony, Nancy Grace signing off, Little Kelly rested, 925 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:32,479 Speaker 2: Mace