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Speaker 1: Welcome to Ja Dot Del a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: That was that was what's up Everybody's um Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Jay dot Little Podcast. This is Joe Scott, This is

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Speaker 1: Agia r. Graydon Danceler. You got longer. There's there's a

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Speaker 1: middle name there. We'll discuss it another day. All right. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, don't worry about my last name, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: not say your last name Clair. I just try to

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Speaker 1: be you know, fine and not formal. But that's fine.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like such a good name. And then when

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Speaker 1: you added Margaret on the front of it, did it

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Speaker 1: just take a turns Margaret liah Sinclair. Is she black?

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Speaker 1: Is she white? I don't know. Yes, yeah, my mother

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Speaker 1: obviously did the same thing. Yeah. The whole name is

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Speaker 1: Jill Heather Scott tether Heather. Oh my god, it's so

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Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Heather. Heather as the one lady

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Speaker 1: with the ethnic name that's not really ethnic because it

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Speaker 1: comes from a white pop rock group. Really. Asia Asia

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Speaker 1: is the name of um. I think it's the fourth

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Speaker 1: album from Steely Dan. Wow, that's what that's what your

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Speaker 1: parents did. They loved at you. I Gotta name Me

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Speaker 1: after an album cover which is fantastic, considering the um

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Speaker 1: alternative names, which were for a girl so journal and

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Speaker 1: for a boy tu sons went to the people because

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Speaker 1: the people got the power. Well, I I knew a

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Speaker 1: young woman named Vagina. That's real that yep. And her

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Speaker 1: daughter's name is Soritha. I can't make this up, Ama,

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Speaker 1: Vagina and Sertha. I haven't seen either of you in

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Speaker 1: a very very long time. I hope you're okay. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a form of resistance. Name your children

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Speaker 1: some made up ship, That's what I'm saying. Name them,

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Speaker 1: name them whatever you want, like it was made up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but just if we're gonna be truthful, Karima put two

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Speaker 1: names together my mama like La Laila. I like that

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Speaker 1: together day for him lay Well, that's what happened with

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Speaker 1: Joyce and Bill. Yeah, n right, Okay. So since we

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Speaker 1: were discussing names and I talked about my middle my

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Speaker 1: middle name is also a hybrid. Are you all ready?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready? The father's name. The father's name is Richard.

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Speaker 1: Can't name the daughter Richard, so we feminized it to

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Speaker 1: be rich Sharna. Wow, you win. Rich Please tell me

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Speaker 1: what type of lester products I will be receiving for

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Speaker 1: this scramble board win. Wow, hook me up. The h

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Speaker 1: is a sound Okay, this is some so to Katie

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Speaker 1: Ship Jill Sharina Casell, like a whole flock of chickens

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Speaker 1: or a Jewish holiday. I do not know or wish holiday.

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Speaker 1: We're out of school for Risharina. Okay, I want that.

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Speaker 1: I want that holiday will be fasting for No, no disrespect. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't see that was messed up. I got a

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Speaker 1: really back no disrespect. I was perfect. Made me take

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Speaker 1: my sweatshirt off. He got hot in my last and

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Speaker 1: that was good. You do win. You're here a hero man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I've lived for to two years with that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Wow, and hanging I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. You know, it's interesting. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: our parents for, you know, just going for it. We

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Speaker 1: were in Nordea billy, okay, and you named your daughter

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Speaker 1: Jill Heather. It was supposed to be a first name.

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Speaker 1: Actually it was supposed it was supposed to be Jill Heather.

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Speaker 1: That was my first name, you know, like straight off

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Speaker 1: of the Waltons. Wow, like Sherrianne or something that got

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Speaker 1: come come Jill Heather, let me show you to the pond.

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Speaker 1: You know, that was what it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: And then she put an exclamation point at the end.

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Speaker 1: So it's Jill Heather Scott. Just so you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't understand what you mean. You can't do that? Did

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Speaker 1: she did? And she could one of my birth certificate

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Speaker 1: as an exclamation at the end of my name supposed

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Speaker 1: to be great? This is I never in my life

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Speaker 1: have you ever heard about any kind of like exclamation

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Speaker 1: point of anything. I've never heard of it. But it's

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Speaker 1: so lack as ship ever to my life, and for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm with it in fact, should that they're gonna do it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you've been pronouncing it wrong this whole time. It's Jill Scott,

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Speaker 1: so you know, Oh, just so you know, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to come back alive today. Who today, y'all?

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Speaker 1: We we are talking about rumors? Oh man, I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know anybody anywhere anytime that hasn't

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Speaker 1: had a rumor spread about them for whatever reason? Does

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Speaker 1: do the reasons matter? Sometimes? Okay? What could be a

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Speaker 1: good reason to spark a rumor? Oh? I spoke too soon?

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Speaker 1: She was gonna pick on me first, um, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: you do it unconsciously, not knowing that you spread in

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Speaker 1: the rumor. It might have been truth in your mind. Baim. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So here we are with the truth in your mind

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Speaker 1: because he has his truth and she has her truth,

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Speaker 1: and they have their truth. But I think that somehow,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I know, somehow, some way the truth

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Speaker 1: it's void, yea. Some some stuff is just a straight

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Speaker 1: and then you figure what is the reason to start

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Speaker 1: a straight up lie? Well, usually in my experience, people

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Speaker 1: the rumor comes from some place of anger, jealousy usually

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Speaker 1: the big J word jealousy, you know. Or there's an

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Speaker 1: agenda sell products stuff like that, people trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: They end up either being so ridiculous that people just

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Speaker 1: like to just you know. I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 1: I had to look this up. I was in the

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Speaker 1: bed with the husband and he talked about something. Did

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Speaker 1: you know that Vanessa del Rio is sisters with feliciarus

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Speaker 1: would have mentioned that. I said, sir, specially, that's not real.

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Speaker 1: He said, he told about something. He said, well, I

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Speaker 1: heard it a lot coming up. I said, let me

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Speaker 1: go google this. Now turns out that it is not true.

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Speaker 1: But it is a very well spread and well repeated

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Speaker 1: lie that has been told many many times, in fact,

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Speaker 1: just decently. Debbie Allen had to refute it in an interview.

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Speaker 1: What I want to say. It was like breakfast club

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Speaker 1: she just had to laugh. She's like, this has been

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Speaker 1: going on for years. They're not related. It's amazing how

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Speaker 1: they can travel just you know, a rumor. I'm sorry, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'm really really congested. Um ALCOHOLA rumor can travel not countries,

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Speaker 1: especially now with social media. You know, I heard a

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Speaker 1: rumor um about myself that I had a baby with

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Speaker 1: D'Angelo and and somebody was talking about it like it

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Speaker 1: was fun, and I was like, I've never met where's

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Speaker 1: the baby? Generally I google babies before I say it

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Speaker 1: reality is Angie Stone and D'Angelo have a child together,

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Speaker 1: So they just mixed up the soul divas, I guess

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Speaker 1: and just but I get. I get at least, you know,

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Speaker 1: before COVID, uh, you know, I would get Angie Stone

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Speaker 1: Angie Stone? I promise, I promised. I've been saying this

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Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, it's black people's wh people, okay, because

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Speaker 1: it's it's Angie Stone. Yeah, no, it's it's always black

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Speaker 1: people in the room. Sound turned off, listen. That lovely

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Speaker 1: amazed by these things. But that's crazy though, because like

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Speaker 1: I said, people people really do like to pull children

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Speaker 1: the music business known to be hidden a few times, like,

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Speaker 1: let's not act like that don't happen, and we know

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Speaker 1: you ain't got no baby with you and have a

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Speaker 1: like thirty year old child somewhere. Because I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say it, because that's an old one, dude, that's a

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Speaker 1: classic classic jay Z five year old sons. I don't

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Speaker 1: We believe that Tupac is still alive somewhere. Is that

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Speaker 1: a rumor? Is that? What is that? What do you

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Speaker 1: call that? I'm okay, I'm trying to get at what

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Speaker 1: whoever's saying it loudest. They put this way, if somebody

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Speaker 1: then so and then what's worth addressing? What's worth addressing

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Speaker 1: know it's interested in that, and you say it with

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, this is necessarily a rumor, but I

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Speaker 1: I got a text message from a friend a week ago.

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Speaker 1: fun fact. They Kendrew The Family Soul performed at my

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm tapping my ear. I said, that would

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Speaker 1: been in the sixth grade with us in the fourth

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00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: grade were very big four boys, big girl. Anyway, Um,

423
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: we had an altercation that didn't go well for me. Uh,

424
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: I woke up, I woke up. Okay, I woke up

425
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: Um at home. I don't know how I got there.

426
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who brought me there, but apparently she

427
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: had hit me with a brick. Right. So, Um, I'm

428
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, Jill, go on the chat real quick.

429
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: Just give me a name in a location. Well, let

430
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: me tell, but let me tell you what occurred? Okay,

431
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: So my mother gets me out of that school. Move on,

432
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: here comes the I Hate Joe Scott club, that place,

433
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm going from one school to this

434
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: new one with the with that lady, and I graduate

435
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: high school. Happens. I went to all girls school, Lord,

436
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: have mercy. Um So every other week I was dating

437
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: or talking to somebody's boyfriend that I didn't know. Every week,

438
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: you're looking at my boyfriend. I'm like, I don't know

439
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: who he like. You don't understand. I work, I have

440
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: to keep the lights on. I'm a I'm a child

441
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: who was paying bills. What are you talking about? I

442
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: don't have time. I don't anyway. Um uh. I graduated

443
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: from high school and I have on a silk light

444
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: blue halter suit with gold buttons, big gold buttons down

445
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: the side, like something princes would wear. I was working

446
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: at cash at Okay, so I got this su sale,

447
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: read it in the bag. I hit it in the

448
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: back and it went down to like seven dollars or

449
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: forty cents. Joy joy, Yeah, I hit it for a

450
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: long time. Um. Anyway, I have on this suit and

451
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm walking down the street, and what do I see?

452
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: I see that girl. She has a baby in her,

453
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. She's got one on one hand and one

454
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: on the other hand. And when I tell you that,

455
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: she looked it was like a soul exhaustion. She was.

456
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: She was worn out, way past a nap. And I looked,

457
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, I cut my eyes. I'm looking. I'm looking

458
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: at them like that's her, that's her. And I got

459
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: past her and I turned around and I looked some

460
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: more to her whole stature, her, the way she walked,

461
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: the babies were tired like. And I got on the

462
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: bus and I cried all the way to work because

463
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: for years I had been wishing negative things on this girl.

464
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: For years, every time I thought about it, I was like,

465
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: I hope that what kind of ever, black, dark, ugly,

466
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, horrendous thing could happen. This is as the

467
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Brick girl. So I'm wishing all of these negative things

468
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: on her, and I just thought, life takes care of

469
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: those kinds of people, you know, Life takes care folks.

470
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: And then years after that, my mother's a Jehovah's witness,

471
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: and she was in the Kingdom Hall and she told

472
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: my mother who she was, which is a lot I'm

473
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: the I was the one that hit your daughter with

474
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: a brick right in the Kingdom hall of course, right.

475
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: She waited for your mama to be at church. That's

476
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: what That's what she did. And she shologized. I was

477
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: I was going through some things. I was having a

478
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: really hard time. You know, Jill seemed like, you know,

479
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: she was loved and you know, her cloth and her

480
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: hair was done, and and you know, I'm so sorry,

481
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: you know, for for doing that. And I just wanted

482
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, my life is different now,

483
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: like you know, it just it's just damn. It makes

484
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: you think about now I'm thinking about all my bullies.

485
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm rethinking all their lives. It just really makes

486
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: you have a moment, like because there is something to

487
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: the fact that what the ASA said is a reason

488
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: that they act the way they do, too. It is

489
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: a reason. I'm not saying that that I should have

490
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: let those things slide, but I'm telling you that I

491
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: let something slide, and things that bother me to bother me,

492
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: but I let them slide so I can save my

493
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: own life. You understand me, because you can't carry that

494
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: through even though you do carry it anyway. To a

495
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: degree no matter what, because it's just a life experience,

496
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's always going to have

497
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: a certain place in the psyche. But you know, in

498
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: terms of you know, letting it go and moving forward,

499
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: you gotta do that for your own good, you know

500
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And no matter the situation here, you're

501
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: looking like what you have to say things to yourself

502
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: like what is an ego? What is an aunt to

503
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: an eagle? You know, like, what what do you that?

504
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: That's a whole system aunt life? You know, that's that's

505
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: a whole system that got friends, that got houses, that

506
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: got work to do. That's that that's your whole existence

507
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: over there. That's that's over there. Eagles have their own

508
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: jammie going on. You know, that's an old word, but

509
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: I used it. Yeah, he goes have their own ship

510
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: going on. You know. So what is a slug to

511
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: a platypus? Like, ah, it's it's like I'm trying and

512
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: I do the best that I can to stay in

513
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: a state of greece grace lord. Yeah. I just find

514
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: it interesting how these roles evolved, seeing what way it

515
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: goes to bullies. Even when I was but to a

516
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: girlfriend today about you know, nerds versus bad boys, and

517
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: you go through school and you love a bad boy,

518
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: but then you realize that as a wrong woman, he's

519
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: usually not the one that ends up being the involved

520
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: man at the very least and successful at the very most. Right. Yeah,

521
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's funny. I just think I was

522
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: always just like a very odd little person. You know

523
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: what I mean, you were a pamp, That's right. That

524
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: was high school. That was high school. I had to evolve.

525
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: I had to evolve into my pimp status, you know

526
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you don't just come out the

527
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: womb up him, you know what I'm saying, work, I

528
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: wish you're gonna could see her neck and head movements

529
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: at this time and the hands. You have to evolve

530
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: into pimp status. But as a kid though, I was

531
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: actually like kind of a weirdo. But I never really

532
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: had issue with bullies per se. I probably was that

533
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: person who was constantly taken up for kids, who was

534
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: getting That's that's how I ended up getting hit in

535
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: the head with a break because I was defending somebody.

536
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I needed you, I need, I need. Yeah, I didn't

537
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: really have too many bullies. But you know, there was

538
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: always somebody, you know, somebody had a little issue or

539
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But it was like, um,

540
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, I always would like attract the mean kids.

541
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: Mean kids would be nice to me, you know, and

542
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: then it's just it's the weirdest thing that would be

543
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: nice to me. There was a kid that that um

544
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: that I went to elementary school, which you said earlier

545
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: about this girl that was big four boys. I was

546
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: friends with that girl and Elma. Her name was. Her

547
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: name was Angela. I won't say her last name, but

548
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: her name was Angela. I know her last and remember it.

549
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: One of the kindest people I had ever met. Always

550
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: looked after me, and I always wondered why she was

551
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: so tough all the time, like because she never had

552
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: she never did that with me and girls. She didn't

553
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: have any friends who were girls. She only played with

554
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: the boys, and she basically was the type that was like, look,

555
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: you only had to look at her sideways before she

556
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: was going to knock you out, you know what I'm saying.

557
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: But she had a little sister, and she was so

558
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: tender with that sister, so protective of her, and she

559
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: treated me pretty much the same way she treated her sister.

560
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: And I found myself all the times people would say

561
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: terrible things about her, and I realized, you know, like

562
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: she was getting bullied heavily. Like I never realized that

563
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: because it always seemed like she was the tough one.

564
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: But kids talked about this child relentlessly, I mean horribly,

565
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: like she had no feeling, you know what I mean.

566
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: And and it's it's oddly enough, I remember myself kind

567
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: of end up taking up for the bully kid because

568
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: it was like I knew her in a different space,

569
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it was just something

570
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: that I think kind of followed me in life, and

571
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: it ends up turning me into a person like And

572
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: we talked about this before, laughed about it, like I

573
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: feel like Switzerland and almost every social environment that I'm in,

574
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: because I tend to be the person end up in

575
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: the go between between folks. But I do think ultimately

576
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: there is a very ugly thing that happens underneath the

577
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: surface with individuals, and particularly amongst women unfortunately. And you

578
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: know how I love love women. I love Black women,

579
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: I love my relationships with them, but there's something that's

580
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: very ugly that goes underneath that, and I think it

581
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: just feeds into those feelings of lowlessness and those feelings

582
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: of low self esteem, and the things that that the

583
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: world kind of creates these these uh this, these standards

584
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: that don't have anything to do with us, and not

585
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: only do we feel crappy for not living up to them,

586
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: then we take our anger and rage for not feeling

587
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: like we're enough out on people who we think are vulnerable,

588
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: or or people that we think are enough, or that

589
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: people who we think or deem are enough, or whatever

590
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: that perception is, which that perception is almost always wrong

591
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: because once you once you pull up up the over

592
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: the blanket, that person is feeling the exact same feelings

593
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: that you're feeling. It is like the traumatized traumatizing. It

594
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: is just the hurt people hurt people think it is

595
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: just consistently happening. So I would say all of it

596
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: has to kind of get down to the core of things.

597
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: What is the real evil here? The real evil is

598
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: the messaging. The real evil is the fact that kids

599
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: go into school and literally have to contend with how

600
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: they look, what their clothes look like, if they seem wealthy,

601
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: if they're not loved. There's if they're not loved, there's

602
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: that scene, that that moment where they can't get it

603
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: and it's not normalized for others to give it to them.

604
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: They have to get feel shamed for it. It's just

605
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: like it's it just it goes to show you that

606
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: we're all kind of in this this experience called life,

607
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: really together and really experiencing a lot of the same

608
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: exact things. It's hard though it is. We're here, we're

609
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: three different women. It's just good. Lie, it'sn't clear in

610
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: the Asia. Great and Danzler, that's good every time. That

611
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: was Yeah, I think that might that might contend with Botswana.

612
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: I think that's good every time. Listen, there's three women

613
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: here that that have been loved you. I mean like

614
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: we're we're loved people and to be on this side

615
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: of the fence. Um we or I'm gonna speak for myself.

616
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: I just I want to encourage you to, uh, don't

617
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: necessarily assume the worst of people. Don't don't don't just

618
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: go for it. Um. There are the people who have agendas,

619
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, they are hurt people who start ship just

620
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: because um, they need a moment or they need help

621
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: or they need medication. I I don't know why, um,

622
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: and that's not for me to to necessarily understand, but

623
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, lean towards the light, lean towards good, lean

624
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: towards kindness. Don't be so goddamn messy. Sound sometimes you don't.

625
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: You don't know the good till you see the bad.

626
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: So you know that then the good. But it sounds,

627
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: but it sounds admirable. Hold, don't be messy. Let's go

628
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: back to don't be mad messy, don't be messy, don't

629
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: be messy. Okay, I have something I tell my teenage kids. Listen,

630
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: you ain't got to consume everything, and if you slip

631
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: up and consume it, you ain't got to spread it

632
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: and allow others to consume it. Hello, don't be messy.

633
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: There you go. That's a word for the day. Or

634
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: if you are going to be messy, keep it light.

635
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Just I'll just say, you know that sounds like it.

636
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: Don't don't talk about my mama, but you know, maybe

637
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: mouth is today he is a little light so we

638
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: can laugh. Like, Okay, let's what's up. Keep it keep

639
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: it light, don't be so hateful or try not to

640
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: stay away from those people to just drag you down.

641
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: They do, and their lives aren't great. So just know

642
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah that's the part. I just keep

643
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: on moving. What about what about you? Like? Yeah, was

644
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: there a rumor spreading about you that you were like what? Why? Yeah?

645
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: That's funny. I don't think I've been as lucky because people.

646
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: The way people talk about me is probably always a

647
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: little bit of truth in an extent, like like it's

648
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: got a big gass mouth. Those are the best rumors,

649
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Best rumors have a little

650
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: bit of truth. Don't tell like nothing like for the longest,

651
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I used to have to tell people like, you know,

652
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me something, just tell me to

653
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: keep it in a secret. But if you forget to

654
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: tell me it's a secret, oh shit, I'm tell you

655
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: like that literally as it was. I'm saying, I'm not

656
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: that person now, But no, you have to a lot

657
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: for for some evolutions. So I have evolved and now

658
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: I know. But yeah, about fifteen years ago, I was like,

659
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: let me know, say secret. Bit if you don't say

660
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: the word, it ain't it ain't. It ain't real. But rumors, No,

661
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: that's na na not like that. But but okay, look

662
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: this is what this is what I think. Um, we

663
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: we we try to fit. Nah, the boxes are whack all.

664
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: Boxes for human beings are just the worst. Nobody ever

665
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: fits into the box. It's impossible. And you might fit today,

666
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: but maybe not around seven fifteen tonight. It might be

667
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: a different space. You know. People are people grow and

668
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: move and change all the time, and I believe in

669
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: allowing that, and there's nothing I can do about it anyway.

670
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Accepting it is what I'm saying. I totally accept that.

671
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: So you know, I might get that call later tonight

672
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: or somebody's like, girl, to you, did you here? I

673
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: still this is my only I still try so hard

674
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: to say I don't know her. I don't know. That's

675
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: like your answer every time. I don't know. I don't know,

676
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to be what I don't

677
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: know them like that, so I can't say what's true

678
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: and what's not true. I do have I'm just like that.

679
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all. I do have to have a safe

680
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: place to talk my ship. I mean, I'm just saying,

681
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I ain't got to consume every bit

682
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: of information. But if I do that means I ain't

683
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: got to spread it. But if it stay on my

684
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: group text, if the ship stay in the group text,

685
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: then okay. Or if I just got to get my

686
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: ship out and it's just like look, okay, and and

687
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: and I know that my my, my girls ain't gonna

688
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: judge me. They're gonna be like, all right, girl, you

689
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: had to get that out. Now, go fix yourself, have

690
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: a t go out in the world and be great.

691
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: You know. But I think people are gonna talk shit

692
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: about you, like whether it's warmer based or if it's

693
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: just their opinion about you. Like you know that part

694
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: of it is just part of just kind of muscling

695
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: through the world, you know what I mean, whatever you

696
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: do in your life, if you're good at it or

697
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, mugs is gonna have something to say. Like

698
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: somebody actually sent a box of condoms to my house

699
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: one time because they're having so many kids because I

700
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: have because I have so many children. That's that's disrespectful,

701
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: because I'll marry and I'll do what I want. But

702
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that was somebody who knew me because

703
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: it was addressed to my house. Funny was it, Like

704
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: it was a joke. You feel like it was a yeah,

705
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be like y'all need some condoms, you know,

706
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: like yeah, people have said, you know, all kinds of

707
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: different stuff, like you know, just cutting things, mostly about

708
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: my kids, like most about oh you want to talk

709
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: about what me and my husband. But see, I think

710
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: I understand this dynamic now because like I think people

711
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: just not don't have no fear to say my ship

712
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: in my face. So that's why there's no rumors. But

713
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: y'all too, they are a little scared about the rumors circulate,

714
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, they feel they can't come to that room.

715
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: I heard that that people were afraid of me, and

716
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: I was afraid of me for what did you just?

717
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Did you hear your first single ever? Do you ever

718
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: hear your first single? Getting in a way? Yeah? You

719
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: ever heard that? I heard? Okay, so then that was

720
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: that's how you stepped on the scene. Point taken, point taking,

721
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: that's basiline, Okay, Like I don't think anybody is scared

722
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: of me. I think I don't think nobody is scared

723
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: of me personally. I mean, I don't think i've better tipidated,

724
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: but I will say this much, I think people want

725
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: to be able to speak freely and say whatever they

726
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: want without having the consequence of it of people knowing

727
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: that it came out their mouth and so that I think,

728
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's that part about it. But I mean,

729
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, Like, yeah, I have a lot

730
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: of kids, I mean ship okay, Like as as I

731
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: asked you to feed them? There what difference does it?

732
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, mouse, pat monsters. You know

733
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Oh yeah, I got some good ones

734
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Somebody told somebody on Twitter said that, um,

735
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: Kindred makes my ass itch. That was fun. That was

736
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: Then another time somebody has said, I don't know something

737
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: about my husband wearing V neck undershirts or something like that.

738
00:48:47,200 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm fine with it. His wife, I'm fine, okay.

739
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, people people have said all kinds of like

740
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: you know whatever stuff. It's just like okay, you know,

741
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: you just what you're gonna do, Like are you gonna

742
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just glad that I'm not Beyonce. I

743
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I think everyone can agree that that level

744
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: of that level, it's it's a lot that she didn't

745
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: carry her own baby and all of this other stuff.

746
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: I yo get Beyonce. I'm just looking. I'm like, I'm

747
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: glad I wasn't Richard Gear. But thirty years he's been

748
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: telling my fucker's was no gerbal and his booty. I

749
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: thought that was Jerry Pinnacoli. That actually what I think

750
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: that actually was Jerry Pennacol. Though you know what I'm saying,

751
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: see rumors, rumors right right right, but actually google Jerry coolie.

752
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: But Richard Gear was the one that was attached to

753
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: for the longest. But yeah, yeah, now know we're in

754
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: trumple because no, no, no, no no, no, you ain't in trouble.

755
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm just doogling because you know, you don't see him anymore.

756
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: He's this is how easy it goes. It goes. So

757
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: I heard, I heard. What I heard was don't nobody

758
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: know nobody that part, that part, And now we're the

759
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: bullies that has that's that's were the bully. Damn it.

760
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: But you it's funny. You can tell somebody literally yesterday,

761
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: somebody cared to me, my my brother, neighbor. He's been

762
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: my neighborbody like my brother says to me, ain't never

763
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: been to California a day in his life. This motherfucker

764
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: says to me, like, they tore down the Forum and

765
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a new Clipper Stadium. And I was like, well,

766
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I listened in l A and I was just at

767
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: the Forum. I don't care. The man said they're gonna

768
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: tear that, but I actually seen it. Have you ever

769
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: been to Callie? Don't you know what? I'm a google it,

770
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, but gonna still google it in

771
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: the era of Google. It really is honestly like sad,

772
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: like at this point, at this point, we really we

773
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: should know better, Like here's a good one. I'm sorry,

774
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: this one is good. I first, in our first video,

775
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the team pretends to be a sector driver. That's part

776
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: of the story of our first music video, right good.

777
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: So I need you all to know, not once, not twice,

778
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: not three times, multiple times, over multiple years with different people.

779
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: I have had people come up to me my husband

780
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: or through other people and say I used to work

781
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: with your husband has said I used to work with him,

782
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: and semna, oh my god. I thought they was gonna

783
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I love the way y'all came up

784
00:51:54,320 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: like you with your chest with all sincerity and we

785
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: used to work down at the job that that's when, honestly,

786
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: my first experience with a flat outline, it gave me perspective.

787
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: It really did, because oftentimes, like we talked about earlier,

788
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, some rumors have like at least a

789
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: little slither of truth in there, right, But my first

790
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: experience with a flat outline about my husband and I,

791
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: I just had to laugh because I was like, Wow,

792
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: all these years, I didn't think it was possible for

793
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: somebody to just straight up just manufacture right. And I

794
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: was like, that gave me a lot of perspective. I

795
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, people just be out here in line.

796
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Can you share something? And for me, that's that's the

797
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: part that works me, you know, wears me out, is

798
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: that I'll share something because I think this is going

799
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: to benefit of other people. And then it turned into

800
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: some other ship and I'm like, where did that? Damn it? Okay,

801
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: So I said, I told people. I went to see

802
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: it in the chronologists several times. They told me I'd

803
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: never have children, and I was like, well, you know,

804
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: I went home to my grandmother and I cried, and

805
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: my aunt Annie, she said, don't worry about that. You're

806
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna have a fat baby boy, and I was like crazy,

807
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, alright, crazy, un you know, everybody's got a

808
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: crazy yunt um. Years later, a lot of prayer um,

809
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: his father and I Jet's father and I went into

810
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: a tame sky in Mexico and we we sat in

811
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: this thing and we prayed. It's it's like a little

812
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: t p but it's hot. Okay, yeah, it's hot. I've

813
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: seen that in Poultic. Guys, I know what you're talking about. No,

814
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean that I didn't see. I didn't I don't know, um,

815
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: but it's a you know, it's supposed to be for prayers.

816
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: So going we go inside there and we're praying for

817
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: this baby. And I know I certainly was um out

818
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: of the clear blue sky. I get pregnant. Now, I

819
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: thought I was dying because I slept too much and

820
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: felt funny in the world would just shake on me

821
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Um. But no, I found out

822
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: that I was pregnant. Yeah. So clearly this child is

823
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: eleven years old now and I absolutely am just thrilled

824
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: to be his mom. But I'm here in a rumor

825
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: that I had fertility drugs and then I had uh,

826
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: what's the in vitro check, which is so foul. That

827
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: is a lie from the pits of hell. From the

828
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: pits hell, I said it. That is a lo That

829
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: might have been a lie that women told themselves so

830
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: that they two could have some hope, because the chance

831
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: of them actually going to Mexico and sitting in the

832
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: TP and getting blessed is less than them actually going

833
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: to the doctor and getting in beat. So in my mind,

834
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: she got a VITR and it worked for her, and

835
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: it can work for me. But that's not my case.

836
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't understand people putting stuff together the way they

837
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: want to to create some level of a narrative that

838
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: works for you. Don't understand. I get that, agent, don't

839
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: understand you. Ag all, she got to do far and

840
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: then here it comes. But I stopped trying altogether. I

841
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: gave up. What I wasn't gonna do is get the

842
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: hysor direct to me, because that's what they kept saying,

843
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: you should get a HYS director me, You should get

844
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: a HYS direct to me. Um that, Yeah, I didn't

845
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: do that, and surprise, surprise, you know I was pregnant. Wow,

846
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: but no baby, there was no drugs attached. There's no pills,

847
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: there's no shots, there's no ship. Well, ladies, I don't

848
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: appreciate the next person, but I hope we always got gaddy. No,

849
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm just making I'm just saying, go somewhere for the

850
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: single ladies. And definitely let me just say this too.

851
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: Don't believe if you're going to like a clinic, don't

852
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: believe those people. I want. When I was nineteen, they

853
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: told me I should get a hystorict to me. I

854
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: went again. When I was like twenty eight or twenty nine,

855
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: they said get a hystorict to me, but um, because

856
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: I hadn't found my doctors yet. You know, I hadn't

857
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: found my doctor, and all the doctors were you know, Caucasian.

858
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: You might want to take a minute and find your

859
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: African American. That's a history think about. They told my

860
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: mom the same thing. They told my mom the same

861
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: thing and then cut her in her stomach and tried

862
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: to take her overies. And my grandmother was like no,

863
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: So yes, this is a history of what they do

864
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: to us. Absolutely and also to just also too from

865
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: the emotional kind of part of it and the propaganda

866
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: part of it. The black woman as like eternally fertile

867
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: and some bs two. And that's the white supremacist mess there,

868
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, and that's why they

869
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: won't find out what's really getting rid of these fibroids. Yeah,

870
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: because I mean, Black women deal with infertility just like

871
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: anybody else, and so we're not just these kind of

872
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: natural breeders, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's that

873
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: mess right there. We gotta be done with that, you know.

874
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: And I know maybe coming from a person who has

875
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: a lot of children, that may not be the mouthpiece

876
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: for that particular issue, but I would say, bottom line,

877
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: we have to work on the mind first, you know

878
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. We can't continue to let our life's

879
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: decisions be thrust forward because the lies that are told

880
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: about us ain't got time. Now, I appreciate that agent

881
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: that with a way to to some things up. I

882
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: want you to say it again. I doubt I don't

883
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: know if I don't, I don't remember what I had said,

884
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: not letting our lives be be ruled by I'm paraphrasing,

885
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, not allowing our lives to be ruled by

886
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: things that people have said. You know. Oh yeah, moving, Yeah,

887
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: that's what you said. Yeah, something that is what I

888
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: said something on that way, all right, Yeah, we can't.

889
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: We can't do that because if you believe everything that

890
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: people say about you, then you become what they said

891
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: you were rather than what you actually are. And this

892
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: is the nature of people. People talk shit. They like to.

893
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: It's fun. We talk some ship too, it's it is fun.

894
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: It's words of mine is mine. I ain't got time

895
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: for rumors in my life. Hey, or hate on me,

896
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: hater a nour Later, I'm going to do me. You'll

897
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: be mad, baby, So go ahead and hate. Yeah. I

898
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: feel like I should have a lyric right now, but

899
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't have anyone. Dred ain't got no hate song.

900
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: I got one punk punks jump up to get down,

901
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: ain't nothing. But I never knew what he said afterwards,

902
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: ain't uh huh. And speaking of rumors, there's a lot

903
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: of hearsaying misinformation surrounding the COVID nineteen vaccine. A lot

904
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: of us don't have a lot of trust when it

905
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: comes to medicine and government mixing shoot individually either for

906
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: good reason. However, we have to address some of these

907
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: misplaced and justified fears of this vaccine. So we are

908
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: having a conversation about the facts and fiction around vaccination

909
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: with a high ranking expert who just happens to be

910
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: a dope sister that I love and trust, so we

911
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: all can make more informed decisions. Okay, y'all, let's get

912
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: to it. Hello, y'all, Wait minute, I think somebody's cold.

913
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: That must mean it's time for what's on your heart? Well? Hello, hello,

914
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: how are you fantastic? Who is on the line? So

915
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: my name is Nicole Redune and I'm a physician in DC,

916
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: and I have a couple of jobs in DC. One

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Speaker 1: I've worked at the f d A and I'm Director

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Speaker 1: of the Office of Blood at f d A. And

919
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: another I work at the Children's National and Washington, DC,

920
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: and I see kids that have problems with um blood

921
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: disorders and cancer disorders. Do you mind if I add

922
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: something else to your resume, A couple of other things

923
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: that you're being very modest? Dr Dune, Yes, please go ahead.

924
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: I would also like to add the doctor Redunn is

925
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: a graduate of the Great Duke. Dr Redunn is also

926
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: a graduate of the University of Chicago. She has also

927
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: done a fellowship in Philadelphia at Children's Hospital and again,

928
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: like she said, she is. I like to call her

929
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: the director of Blood, Dr Blood and one more thing

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01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: to add to her resume, because you should know, because

931
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Speaker 1: I do this to Asia all the time. Dr Bedune

932
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: is also the mother of four who are all under

933
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: the age of that twelve twelve. Yeah, my youngest is three.

934
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Clue the applause, the applause. I'm gonna tell you all

935
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: right now, I'm I'm putting out there until y'all start

936
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: paying mothers for a raising these kids. We're taking it

937
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: off our resume. That's right, got, it's it's coming off

938
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: the rest. It's a full time job in itself. Absolutely. Yeah.

939
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: I have two boys and two girls. They keep me busy,

940
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: very busy. We're done. We have so many questions. I mean,

941
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: this COVID thing is running rampant. We've got a new

942
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: version of this this thing. It's a virus and a

943
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: disease at the same time. Yes, yes, so you know

944
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: I have I have a lot on my mind because

945
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: I you know, I think that unfortunately, in healthcare in general,

946
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: things are disproportionately affecting African Americans and this is no exception.

947
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: And so you know, black folks with COVID are more

948
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: likely to die from COVID, are more likely to be

949
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: hospitalized from COVID. And you know, we have the other

950
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: things that we don't talk about enough, but we're more

951
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: likely to get turned away from an emergency room because

952
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: we don't get taken seriously when we have symptoms. And

953
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: so this is really disproportionately affecting our community, and I

954
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: want us to take as serious. And on the backdrop

955
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: of that, we have vaccines out right now, and vaccines

956
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: have been proven through clinical trials to be effective. That's

957
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. Effectiveness for a vaccine is way, way, way

958
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: more than the normal vaccine, even like a flu vaccine

959
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: or other vaccines. And you know, through talking with a

960
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: lot of our friends, Lay and I have a mutual

961
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: group of friends who I grew up with my husband,

962
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of skepticism in the

963
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: African American community about vaccine and I have gotten to

964
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: some debates in some group texts and that has brought

965
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that has brought her here today there,

966
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I get it. I get it. I

967
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: get the skepticism with with medicine in general and the

968
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: way that we have historically been treated in the United States.

969
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: I get that, and so, but with that, I think

970
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: we have to have a balanced approach to keeping ourselves

971
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: healthy through this pandemic. Because you have to look at

972
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: the statistics. You're twenty one million people in the United

973
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: States that have COVID. We are four times is likely

974
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: to be hospitalized in three times is likely to die

975
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: just being African American, I want to say that, and

976
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: and and so because of that, you have to sort

977
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: of weigh things. I understand having overall skepticism with medicine,

978
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,959
Speaker 1: but you have something that's effective at preventing you from

979
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: getting COVID and getting into the hospital. Now we have

980
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: to sort of take that seriously. And I want people

981
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: to make informed decisions. I don't want to stuff anything

982
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: down anyone's throat, but at least to have informed decisions.

983
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: And then the other piece of this that people have

984
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: to also remember we're in the middle of a pandemic.

985
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: So when you're doing a clinical trial to see if

986
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: something works, you can just go to an area that

987
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: is having a really high number of COVID cases. Right

988
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: And when you're looking at a vaccine, what your endpoint

989
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: is where you're trying to look at look at is

990
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: how many people that don't get the vaccine get COVID

991
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: and how many people that do get the vaccine get COVID.

992
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: So that's what they're doing. It's called a randomized controlled

993
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: trial where they go into an area that has a

994
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of COVID in it and then they give half

995
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: of the people the vaccine and the other half of

996
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: the people through informed consent. They know they're doing this,

997
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: They don't get the vaccine, they don't know exactly when

998
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: they're getting it, when they're getting the injection, which thing

999
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: they have, and then they follow those people and they

1000
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: see who gets COVID and who gets hospitalized and who doesn't.

1001
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: And in those trials, I do want to say there

1002
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: were African Americans that participated in those trials, and if

1003
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: you break it down, I mean I don't recommend breaking

1004
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: it creaking all these numbers down, but this is important.

1005
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: The people that were in the trial that were African American,

1006
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: they actually had a hundred percent effectiveness. So the vaccine

1007
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: worked in all the African Americans actually that got the

1008
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: vaccine on those trials, So we were included in those trials.

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Speaker 1: There weren't There were about ten percent of African Americans

1010
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: out of all of the people that were in the trial,

1011
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: so not you know, we have a history of not

1012
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: wanting to participate in trials, and I get that and

1013
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: I understand that, but that we were represented in those trials.

1014
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: And so I think that when you're looking at those

1015
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: two things and how this is disproportionately affecting our community

1016
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and the fact that you have

1017
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: something that can prevent it, it really does to me

1018
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: push the balance to getting the vaccine. You know, there

1019
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: are other other things and other questions people have about

1020
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: the vaccine. You know, another is I don't want to

1021
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: put anything foreign in my body. I don't know what

1022
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: this is. I don't know what's gonna happen. And these vaccines,

1023
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: the two vaccines that are out I can speak to

1024
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: it's a new vaccine technology kind of and that it's

1025
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: the first time there's a vaccine that's approved that are

1026
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: what are called messenger RNA vaccines. That's that that part

1027
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: is new, but it's been tested for long, long, long

1028
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: periods of time, like over ten years. People have been

1029
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: looking at this type of vaccine, and so it's a

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01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: I would say that because it's a vaccine that doesn't

1031
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: stay in your body, so it comes inside of this

1032
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: caps that it goes inside of your body and it

1033
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: drops off what's kind of like a blueprint to have

1034
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: your body start making antibodies to the to the covid

1035
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: um to to COVID and then the actual the thing

1036
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: that in cases the vaccine. It's gone within forty eight

1037
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: hours and your body just has the antibodies that it needs.

1038
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: So I want to say, I get to say everything

1039
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: I want to say. I want to bring up I

1040
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: want to bring up Dr Susan Moore. And I don't

1041
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: know if people saw her story, but Susan Moore, she

1042
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis. She is a black physician in Indiana,

1043
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: and she went on Facebook and she talked about her

1044
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: experience after she got COVID, how she was denied treatment,

1045
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: how she was they were they thought she didn't need

1046
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: the treatment that she needed. She got sent home prematurely,

1047
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: she had to fight her way to get back into

1048
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: the hospital. She end up going to another hospital and

1049
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: she ended up dying from COVID. And you know, I

1050
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: say that because that's that's one of the many examples

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01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: she she she took her story and she took it

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: on Facebook while she was going through it, and so

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people could see it. But here she is,

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, an African American, the male physician, going through

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: this knowing, you know, knowing a lot about what she

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: needed and didn't need. She she was fighting to get

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: a cat scan of her lung, she was fighting to

1058
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: get rim dissevere, she was fighting to get treatments. Now,

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: what end of this do you want to be on?

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to be on the end where you

1061
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: can prevent yourself from getting this in the first place,

1062
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: or do you want to be on the end where

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01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: you have to fight to get what you need? And

1064
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: it's just real talk. That's sort of where we are

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: right now. And I wish it wasn't that way, but it,

1066
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, it is. And so you know, I I

1067
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: think that the vaccine that people really need to really

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: take it seriously. And I think that at the at

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: the point that people are offered it, I think it's

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: something that they should they should at least consider. I'll

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: say that dr. We're done. I have a question. Is

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: it okay? Please? Thank you? Um? Since uh, scientists are

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: are taking anybody's to create the vaccine, is that fair?

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: Is that true? Take antibodies to create vaccines. Is that

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: how this works as well. What they're doing is they're

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: taking a piece that so that the virus has that

1077
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: coronavirus itself has something on the outside of it called

1078
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: a spike protein, and so they're just taking the messaging

1079
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: of to make that a piece of the virus and

1080
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: put that inside of this messenger rna UM and then

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: give it to your body so that you make the antibodies.

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: So the vaccine itself doesn't make the antibodies, it gives

1083
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: it puts something um and and they put something inside

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: of the vaccine that triggers your body to say, oh wait,

1085
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: this is foreign, this is this is a virus. This

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: isn't something that I know. And then your body makes

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01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: antibodies to that spike protein. Now, the spike protein itself

1088
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: is not something I shouldn't call it a virus. It's

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: a piece of a virus. So it's not something that

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: itself when it goes into you can make you sick

1091
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: or that can do anything. So it's like it's taking

1092
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: a piece of it, and so your body recognizes that

1093
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: it is foreign, and then it's making antibody so that

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: when it is exposed to a real virus, then it

1095
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 1: knows how to respond by fighting it. And you explain,

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Speaker 1: Ok ahead, Asia, I know you go ahead. UM No,

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: I just have a question about UM. You know how

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01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier that black folks are more likely to die,

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01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: more likely to get turned away in terms of UM

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: this disproportionately affecting us. Do you think that's solely an

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: issue of access and and and our access to health care?

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: Is that you know, I think on the other end

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01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: of things, and maybe this might be a small portion

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: of our community. You know that there's a lot of

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: talk about what you put in your body. So black

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: folks that have more sea moss and sour south and

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: then everything on the all the vitamins, the niacins, the

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: tribes that cod what I'm saying, I think this is

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: just what you know as you pour some hot onion

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: juice and your team it's per day, the one that

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: don't laughing that I do that that don't work. That's

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01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: if you do that, then you will build up immunity

1113
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: within your boss. So I just want you to so

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: that's like a two part I want you to speak

1115
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: to are the things that really make us vulnerable and

1116
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 1: are the things that we use culturally? Are are those

1117
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: things that we are we relying too much on it?

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: Do they work? Sort of mixture? Do they work? Like

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: what's the vibe? Well, I mean that's a great question.

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01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: It's a combination of things. So so one, we're more

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01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: likely to be that after more African Americans that are

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: quote frontline workers, so people that are exposed to the

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01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: virus more. UM. Also, we have a we have a

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: higher number of some of the co morbidities that make

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01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: your outcomes worse, like um diabetes or asthma, or obesity.

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: Those things can also increase your risk UM. And then

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: in terms of of how so if you're if you're

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01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: living in a community where people are are closer in

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: proximity to each other on a regular basis, that also

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01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,919
Speaker 1: increases your risk. And disproportionately, Black folks are treated differently

1131
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: in our healthcare UM system. So it's a combination of

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: all those things. And you know, some of the some

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: of the things that you point out, UM, I don't

1134
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: know about all of those home remedies can really speak

1135
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: to it. I can't really speak to it. Vitamin, but

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01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I think it's a combination of things.

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01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: It's a combination of things. But um, you know, and

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: that's why I just don't I don't want us to

1139
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: even have to be in that, in that situation of

1140
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: getting turned away from an emergency room or being not

1141
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: taken seriously. I just don't. So. Um, but I think

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01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: it's a I think it's a whole lot of stuff,

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: a lot of factors. Well, I just want to ask

1144
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: you this too. So, And it's funny because now that

1145
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: we know, okay, so the vaccine is here, we also

1146
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: know the rollout is slower than they ever thought it

1147
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: would be. So that we're done, in your opinion, where

1148
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: do you see us at the end of I think so.

1149
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: So I'm an optimist. I think at the end of

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: one we'll be back to some sense of normalcy. I do.

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01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: I think I think wearing mask still though we're wearing

1152
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: masks and we're married, we're probably wearing masks still. Yes,

1153
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: But I do think by the end of one. But

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of butts there. We have to

1155
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: see or see a lot of caveats. We have to

1156
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: see how many people take the vaccine. Um, we have

1157
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: to see how you know, just how people are are

1158
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: in terms of these I hate to say, of these

1159
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: new COVID strains that are coming out that one of

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01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: the things that you have to be careful of is

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: if we aren't, if we're going so slow with getting

1162
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: the vaccine and we're continuing to have cases of COVID,

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: then that you know, the virus can mutate. The longer

1164
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: that you keep it around, you can have mutations. And

1165
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: so we really have to we have to be on

1166
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: our game. We have to get vaccinated. We have to

1167
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: wipe this thing out, um and and just wipe it

1168
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: out for good, and then I think we'll get back

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: to some sense of normalcy, but I think it'll be

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: before the end of and I do well. I'm in

1171
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: no position to speak for the entire black world, but

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: I really feel like most of us want to wait

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: and see you ain't. I mean, we want to wait

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: and see. Um. I'm a conspiracy theorist to a certain degree,

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01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: and I feel like maybe had had they tested aluminum

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: boil for forty years, we would know something different. So

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: many people have dementia and they tell me there's nothing

1178
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: to do with it, but we know, God that were done. Blackness.

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01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean when I think about something

1180
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: that's been using awful long time, uh heated aluminum. You

1181
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: know that kind of freaks me out a little bit.

1182
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: But you know, we we all have these conspiracy theories.

1183
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: We don't know if we're going to get a placebo

1184
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: or if we're gonna actually get a right vaccine or not.

1185
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: Um it's it's like a leap of faith in an

1186
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: act of trust. And I hear you, I hear you.

1187
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: But see, this is the thing. I just don't think

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01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: that we have the time to wait and see. And

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: that's what I worry about because as when we wait

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01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: and see, there's more and more people that are dying

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: every day, And so is it what is it worth?

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01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: You know? What is the cost? Is the cost? More lives?

1193
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: Is the cost more more people from our family that

1194
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: are dying or loved ones that we know. And I

1195
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: just don't think we have the ability to to just wait.

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: I don't think we can with this and what is

1197
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: the weight deal? Because we cannot, we ain't getting it

1198
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: until Like I'm just for us, I'm just saying, I'm

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01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: just saying I was waiting for the second shot I have.

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01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead. Thank you so much for being with

1201
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: us because we we everybody has questions about what this

1202
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 1: is and we're all in some level of a major

1203
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: concern about it. Um Like when my mom would shot

1204
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: for me back in the day. Um, she would go

1205
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: to the to the good white neighborhood to get to

1206
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: the good thrift store on the other side of town.

1207
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: A couple of buses and maybe a train. Don't do

1208
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,440
Speaker 1: we need to go somewhere else to get our vaccines?

1209
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: Be honest, dr were done. I'm just saying white neighborhood

1210
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else. I'm there to get it. Please.

1211
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: Look whatever makes people feel more comfortable about getting it,

1212
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm on board with it. But I don't think that

1213
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 1: there are any differences and getting your vaccine and black community,

1214
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: white community is going to be the same vaccine as

1215
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: a post Trump answer, Right, it's a pinocal cibos. Everybody's

1216
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: getting the same thing, the same vaccine. So I I

1217
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: hear you, I hear you. I mean, we got to

1218
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: talk about the Tuskegee experiment because that's where a lot

1219
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: of people are coming from with this, and you know,

1220
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: for for that went on for forty plus years where

1221
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: they didn't tell people what that they I mean, some

1222
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: people didn't know that they even had syphilis. They denied

1223
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,759
Speaker 1: them treatment. Penicillin came out, it was known that it

1224
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: was a cure. They held held withheld that from people. Um,

1225
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: babies got syphilis from that, wives got syphilis from that.

1226
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: So I hear, I hear where the skepticism is coming from.

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just merely put the facts out

1228
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: there and turn of this vaccine and um, this is

1229
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: not something where they are giving one vaccine to some

1230
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: people and another to another. One of our friends like, yeah,

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: I have to mention it. Even said, well, I don't

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: want to see Obama on the news getting the valorccine.

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01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: That was me. You ain't gotta gotta go ahead and

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01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: finish the quote. Well, I want to see Obama on

1235
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: the news getting the vaccine because I feel like they

1236
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: might be giving him a different thing than they would

1237
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: be giving me in my community. I need to see

1238
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: him at Planned Parenthood in the hood, at the clinic

1239
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: in the hood, right in the clinic, getting it beside

1240
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: the folks that's from the hood. That's what I say. Yes, yes,

1241
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean there is there. I just don't think that

1242
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: that's happening. I really don't. But I I hear you.

1243
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: I hear have you seen these Atlanta videos that's going

1244
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: to happen to happen to get these and they're gonna

1245
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: suck you. I know you can't. I know you can't

1246
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: say that, dtr redne, but I will say it. Look,

1247
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,839
Speaker 1: there's another term. There's something called herd immunit. Herd immunity

1248
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: is just when you just give a bunch of people,

1249
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: the people the virus, and some people will will be okay,

1250
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: and they'll get through it and they'll get immune from it,

1251
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: and some people will die. We don't want to be

1252
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: herd immunity in our in our community where we just

1253
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: everybody gets the virus. We see who dies people. We

1254
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: have whole families that are are being taken out, you know,

1255
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: ten people dying at a time, you know. And I

1256
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: just I think that we have to balance all of

1257
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: that with what the price is for waiting, What the

1258
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: price is for waiting, And I just don't think you

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Speaker 1: want to pay we I don't think we want to

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Speaker 1: pay that price. I mean, I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: a healthy I have a healthy amount of skepticism, but

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Speaker 1: I think I'm of the minority of my black friends

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, listen, y'all, body chopped full of vaccines

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Speaker 1: right now. You hear me right, Like, you can't you

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Speaker 1: can't even be a gen xer and and and and

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Speaker 1: and be anti vex. You have the benefit of having

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Speaker 1: a haven't being chock full of them as is. I'm

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Speaker 1: jealously they do that, Yeah, and then they do that

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Speaker 1: with my kids, you know what I'm saying. But you

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Speaker 1: know what I do. That doesn't mean I don't have

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Speaker 1: a healthy skepticism because obviously there you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: racial history here, and you know, and and it's not

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Speaker 1: fair for for the media in particular to continue to

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Speaker 1: kind of push this narrative like black people don't trust doctors,

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Speaker 1: well why they don't. Never they never want to discuss

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Speaker 1: the why. It's just we're just like we're just scared

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Speaker 1: of the boogeyman. Like black people, I mean, black people

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Speaker 1: have very real reasons that are even current right in

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Speaker 1: this moment, in this day now, mothers, grandmothers, others, grandmother's sisters, brothers,

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Speaker 1: and just not just to Skegee, because even we do

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01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: have a group of group of people who still don't

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Speaker 1: even know that even happened. So I do think that, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning heavily towards taking the vaccine. And and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say this because I want to put it out there,

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Speaker 1: because I know people are gonna be mad at me.

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Speaker 1: I might have family members that's looking at me, gonna

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Speaker 1: look at me sideway, But I really think it's important

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Speaker 1: to kind of, um continue to say, hey, look, we've

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Speaker 1: we've been doing this. This isn't a new thing. And

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Speaker 1: the whole world, the whole world was fighting to find

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Speaker 1: a vaccine for this, this virus. The whole world has

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01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: been dealing with it. This isn't something that was just

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: happening in the in America that was just happening in

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Speaker 1: one state. The entire globe was dealing with COVID. And

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Speaker 1: so if you it's probably the closest thing to a

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Speaker 1: to a global coalition that we've seen since freaking communism.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's just it really, that's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: my thing. It's still only using the two the two

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Speaker 1: different vaccines. That still and with all that being said,

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Speaker 1: as much as i'm you know, and I'm promise you

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing devil's advocate, but I'm just saying like,

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Speaker 1: even with all that being said, I still don't trust

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Speaker 1: Whitey just like everybody else. I'm just seeing it's what

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Speaker 1: it is. And unfortunately though, we have so many people

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Speaker 1: like yourself in the medical community and what we see

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Speaker 1: this is this is what we see in our minds.

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Speaker 1: But but your information has been like really amazing for me,

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Speaker 1: because I want to say one more thing too, that

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Speaker 1: that's really important. So the National Medical Association, which is

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Speaker 1: association of all Black doctors, when the vaccines came out,

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Speaker 1: they came up with an independent review board to independently

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Speaker 1: look at all the data, look at all the trials,

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Speaker 1: look at everything on these two vaccines, and they have

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Speaker 1: independently recommended that that we take this vaccine. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that says a whole lot too. So I

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Speaker 1: was I was actually really happy that they did that

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Speaker 1: um and and took the time to do that. That's

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Speaker 1: knowledge that we all need. Yeah. Yeah, Now, I was

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Speaker 1: just gonna say one last thing just to add to

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Speaker 1: your another point to your objectivity. We haven't mentioned that

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Speaker 1: Dr Redund's husband, he's Dr Redund as well, and while

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Speaker 1: they are both doctors, they are very opposite and talked

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Speaker 1: about this in the group text that between talking to

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Speaker 1: other doctors and experts and things of that nature, and

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Speaker 1: seeing that man who had COVID months ago, who was

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Speaker 1: a healthy individual fallout on that basketball court, he ran

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Speaker 1: and got that vaccine before his wife did. Right. Both well,

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Speaker 1: he well, he was able to get I was, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna get it. I just had to wait

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Speaker 1: my turn, but he did. So he's my My husband

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Speaker 1: got the vaccine where in is right. He was skeptical

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Speaker 1: at first. We've had plenty of conversations about it, but

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Speaker 1: he's on board now. Um, and I got the vaccine

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Speaker 1: as well. But I yes, so I I get. I

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Speaker 1: get having skepticism. And that's why I want everybody to

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Speaker 1: be able to make an informed decision. That's all. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to give additional information, put it out there

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Speaker 1: in the atmosphere so that people can make balance and

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Speaker 1: informed decisions. Ladies and dr we really and truly thank you.

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Speaker 1: This has been on everybody's mind and here the deal is,

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Speaker 1: knowledge is power, and thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on and talking to us today. You are going to

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01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: share information with so many people that are trying to

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Speaker 1: make the same decision. Parents and elders and and everybody,

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Speaker 1: because this is a very real thing and you all

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01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe you don't know it, baby, but it el it

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01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: is a real thing and you have to consider. So again,

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Speaker 1: knowledge is power. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Pay Shaw, thank you for having me. It's been fun.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. How do you eat an elephant?

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Speaker 1: One by? It time? Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Eaves again,

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Speaker 1: a producer on the show. Today's resource from Aja, Joe

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Speaker 1: and Layah is a simple yet complex one, and it's

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Speaker 1: one that we all have experience in. It's like, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all, y'all. Life is the ultimate resource, something that

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Speaker 1: you can always learn from. I'll also share links to

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Speaker 1: a couple of press releases from the organization that Dr

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Speaker 1: Dunn mentioned, the National Medical Association, that give a little

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Speaker 1: bit more detail about its COVID nineteen task force. You

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Speaker 1: can find those links in the episode description. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to Jill Scott Presents j dot IL the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Sean g and Brian Calhoun. It's produced by Laya, Thank

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Speaker 1: Claire and me Eve Jeff Coke. The editing and sound

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Speaker 1: design for this episode we're done by Taylor Chokin. I

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