Speaker 1: Class Action is a production of I Heart Radio and
Speaker 1: Sound Argument. I went to Catholic school my whole life.
Speaker 1: It's meaningful in this in the sense that I told
Speaker 1: Sister Grace a few days ago that I wasn't quite
Speaker 1: sure why God brought me to St. Mary's. And this
Speaker 1: year has been very special in the sense that not
Speaker 1: only mock trial has showed me that that's why I'm here,
Speaker 1: because of this team, this aj and and Coach Goss.
Speaker 1: They're all so phenomenal at what they do. But I
Speaker 1: definitely think it was God's way of bringing me back
Speaker 1: to my religion. Hi him, Mariolencinis. So I'm helping with
Speaker 1: the flowers. We just set up the masks, I set
Speaker 1: up the candles, volunteer stuff. The judges will get robed
Speaker 1: and be ready, so we's kind of preparing last minute things.
Speaker 1: This morning I was at work and I had to
Speaker 1: finish up numbering all the banners to make sure that
Speaker 1: they were already and just the finishing touches. That's about it.
Speaker 1: So the Red Mass is an ancient tradition that started
Speaker 1: back in in Paris, and it basically marks the beginning
Speaker 1: of the academic and the judicial year and it's a
Speaker 1: way for us to pray for the administration of justice
Speaker 1: that's going to occur in this next judicial year. Red
Speaker 1: Mass at St. Mary's is a huge deal. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get your banner, You're going to process in. Are you
Speaker 1: a representative candle part Catholic Lawyer's Guild of San Antonio, St.
Speaker 1: Mary's University law Alumni, standic Law roses in Memoriam. So
Speaker 1: everybody in the league organization's the different courts in San
Speaker 1: Antonio and in Bear County, they all come in with
Speaker 1: a banner, and so like the San Antonio Bar, San
Speaker 1: Antonio Chapter of the Federal Bar, San Antonio Young Lawyers Association,
Speaker 1: San Antonio's Mexican Bar Association, each league organization has their
Speaker 1: own representatives. And that's been pretty neat to see how
Speaker 1: excited they are for Red Mass. We asked one of
Speaker 1: our deans to hold the mace in the beginning and
Speaker 1: she was like, I've always wanted to do it, Like
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Yeah, right now Red Mass that's started
Speaker 1: and the procession of the banners is happening. Clarity Prescient
Speaker 1: A Mangler Marion Us, Sister Grace, thank you for making
Speaker 1: a special this celebration of the Mass, as we pray
Speaker 1: to the Holy Spirit to make of all of us,
Speaker 1: all of us servant leaders. The purpose of this red
Speaker 1: mass is clear enough. It invokes God's guidance and the
Speaker 1: strength during the court term to come. We're wearing at
Speaker 1: the liturgical red signifies the willingness to defend the truth
Speaker 1: inspired by the Holy Spirit and for the nation. Although
Speaker 1: human law may hopefully preserve us from anarchy, it is
Speaker 1: not enough to wind up our country's wounds. And we
Speaker 1: know it, and not only the country, the state we're seeing.
Speaker 1: Just a few weeks after the start of the fall semester,
Speaker 1: the first big national trial competition, the Battle of the Experts,
Speaker 1: is about to get under way. I'm Katie Fang. This
Speaker 1: is class action the Battle of the Experts episode four,
Speaker 1: with the COVID nineteen Delta variants sweeping through college campuses.
Speaker 1: This will be a virtual competition. A quick summary the cases,
Speaker 1: let's say, very similar to the murder depicted in the
Speaker 1: movie Goodfellas. This case file is the prosecution of the
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci character for all intents and purposes. So the
Speaker 1: fact pattern in this mob case, Billy Cafilero, the made
Speaker 1: member of the Mafia is beaten in a Pennsylvania bar
Speaker 1: and then later stabbed to death and buried. Prosecutors accused
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci, I mean Tommy Santa Suso, of murder in
Speaker 1: the first degree. I am a huge mob movie mob
Speaker 1: TV show fan. My name is Phil pascuarelo Um, the
Speaker 1: tournament director for the Battle of the Experts. On the
Speaker 1: other side of the case, we've got the bartender who
Speaker 1: was in the bar that night and heard the insult,
Speaker 1: and we've got a mafia expert who's gonna say this
Speaker 1: murder just doesn't really add up as it relates to
Speaker 1: the rules of the mafia. Doesn't seem like the government
Speaker 1: story makes a whole lot of sense. It's the first
Speaker 1: tournament of the season. I wanted my school in this
Speaker 1: tournament to be opening day. I am really excited to
Speaker 1: be at the coaches meeting with all the coaches and
Speaker 1: say welcome to the two thousand two season. All the
Speaker 1: directors and coach and the students are junkies for this.
Speaker 1: They love this stuff. These are the sixteen teams, in
Speaker 1: no particular order. Baylor Law School, Quinnipiac Law, Chicago, kant Law, Peace,
Speaker 1: American Nova, Southeastern South Carolina, St. Mary's Temple, South Dakota,
Speaker 1: U c l A, U C Berkeley, Stetson Pacific, McGeorge, Cumberland,
Speaker 1: and University of Eilamo Chicago. John Marshall, why are you
Speaker 1: looking at what? Oh? I was saying? Were you asking me?
Speaker 1: I don't know she was? That was everybody. St. Mary's
Speaker 1: mock trial team is wide awake, overcaffeinated. In fact, they're
Speaker 1: hunkered down at a hotel in San Antonio and are
Speaker 1: operating on fairy little sleep. Coach Jason Goss fills them
Speaker 1: in on what happened at the tournament's coaches meeting last night.
Speaker 1: Here's the whole power pair. So this is power payer
Speaker 1: every round except for the first round. The first round
Speaker 1: was a challenge round, which we actually didn't get challenged,
Speaker 1: which you know what that means. They're scared of me.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, need to do it. Nobody wanted, So
Speaker 1: we ended up being just the last one is left
Speaker 1: that nobody challenged. And so that's that's cool. You know,
Speaker 1: that's cool because you had like the U c l
Speaker 1: As in the world and everybody else U c l A, Temple, Baylor,
Speaker 1: those are the perennial mock trial powerhouses. St. Mary's ranks
Speaker 1: near the middle of the pack, but this is a
Speaker 1: new season and upsets can happen. Trout Team captain Andy
Speaker 1: Viskara and Jasmine ole Gaen are the team's top guns.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on today and we didn't have
Speaker 1: backdrops aust here and Cole and mad the other like
Speaker 1: brands making you to this. Jasmine's like freaking out, man,
Speaker 1: I need you to get into defense mode that you
Speaker 1: did last night. For No. Andy, I'm here for you
Speaker 1: because you're doing the most right now. Okay, which one
Speaker 1: is it? Why is no one answering my question? No,
Speaker 1: it's right here. Any one oh six? My team is
Speaker 1: one of six outstanding. We started. They send me a script.
Speaker 1: Want to make sure I use this s correct? The
Speaker 1: judge is already logged in and waiting. I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: supposed to say hi everyone. We're waiting on a few
Speaker 1: people just started defense yet from the defense Good morning her?
Speaker 1: Were you waiting on us? Yes, we are both here.
Speaker 1: We're ready to proceed. Round one. St. Mary's University versus
Speaker 1: the University of Illinois Chicago. Everyone's here. If we just
Speaker 1: see the message and get started it. My name is
Speaker 1: let's call lady to be Thomas Santa Suso. My name
Speaker 1: is Judge Mark Alman. Good morning, your honor. My name
Speaker 1: is Anna Rosen Alasco, and today I'm here with my
Speaker 1: co counsul. Good morning, your honor. I am Carol for
Speaker 1: Bolli and we are representing the prosecution. Okay, good morning,
Speaker 1: your honor. My name is Andy Vascara, and I, along
Speaker 1: with my co counsel and Miss Jasmine O Gene, represent
Speaker 1: the defendant, Mr Thomas Santa Suso in today's proceedings. Defending
Speaker 1: Annie homicides suspect is the top of the game in
Speaker 1: criminal law. It'll take years for Andy and Jasmine to
Speaker 1: get enough experience to take on this kind of legal
Speaker 1: work in the real world, but you've got to start somewhere,
Speaker 1: and why not in mock trial. Andy comes out swinging
Speaker 1: in the pre trial, making sure the rights of Tommy
Speaker 1: Santa Suso are not trampled by an overzealous prosecutor. Yes,
Speaker 1: we previously stipulated that no nick names will be used
Speaker 1: to describe any of the parties today, So no nicknames
Speaker 1: like Tommy two Guns, Santa Suso or Crazy Tommy Trials,
Speaker 1: Like you're on fire, everything around you's on fire. People
Speaker 1: are throwing fire at you, but our coaches teaches how
Speaker 1: to like put those out. And lastly, our motion would
Speaker 1: be to exclude Mr Santa Suso's criminal record in today's proceedings.
Speaker 1: As they are past acts or wronks, then it should
Speaker 1: be excluded in today's proceedings. So like something's coming at you,
Speaker 1: you like move, that's coming at you, move, but it's
Speaker 1: all happening at the same time. Let a grant the
Speaker 1: motion of limiting uh if you can let the proper
Speaker 1: product if you get into that. And isnt that no
Speaker 1: mentioned in his power involvement? Yes, sah. So you kind
Speaker 1: of feel like you're in the matrix and it's really
Speaker 1: really cool once you get in it. At first, when
Speaker 1: they throw you in there, you're like, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 1: Everything is lit up and I'm going to burn here.
Speaker 1: And then you kind of get taught how to put
Speaker 1: up the flights, which is cool. Some people were like, ah,
Speaker 1: that sounds amazing, idrying to learn about. Other people were like,
Speaker 1: I'd like to be the administrative branch of this team
Speaker 1: that like just watches you people, and I was like,
Speaker 1: got it, that's great. It's not for everyone, all right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're in a game or the map.
Speaker 1: Yeah it does. During the six minute opening by the prosecution,
Speaker 1: jasmintal Game is taking notes and trying to get her
Speaker 1: mind right. First thing in the morning, I always your
Speaker 1: prayer in the morning. I recently just lost a friend,
Speaker 1: best friend actually, and it was a really hard year
Speaker 1: for me, and I just really like relied on my
Speaker 1: faith this past year. It's been difficult in school. Like
Speaker 1: my friend he actually asked me, he was like, do
Speaker 1: you ever have doubts of your your faith and stuff?
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, Like I have no doubts
Speaker 1: because some of the things that have happened to me,
Speaker 1: like when you're at the lowest, you're like, there's no
Speaker 1: coming up from this, absolutely not, and God is just
Speaker 1: They're like I've thought a lot about my faith recently too,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to just like be praying and
Speaker 1: saying the same things. I've been also trying to be
Speaker 1: more like real every time I pray and really be
Speaker 1: thoughtful about what I'm saying, not just say the same
Speaker 1: thank you for this, thank you for that like I
Speaker 1: always do, like I'm trying to be more, like I'm
Speaker 1: thankful that I'm doing my dream job that I've always wanted.
Speaker 1: Like things like that, Yes, your honor, maybe proceed. Some
Speaker 1: things are too good to be true. And today the
Speaker 1: Commonwealth has brought before you something that looks like a present.
Speaker 1: But after today's case, we will unwrap that box and
Speaker 1: remove the nice little bow on the top, and you
Speaker 1: will see that that box is not a case. It's
Speaker 1: Nick Patrick, a liar, a drug dealer, and her. It's
Speaker 1: a Tuesday afternoon on Pietro Lane, And as you're walking
Speaker 1: down the road, the smell of spaghetti is lingering it
Speaker 1: in the air. And as you enter the first restaurant,
Speaker 1: you're right, Tommy greets you, and Tommy walks you over
Speaker 1: to the booth. He takes your order, and he goes
Speaker 1: to the kitchen. He wants to make sure the chefs
Speaker 1: are following his mother's Sicilian recipes. Tommy a few years
Speaker 1: ago opened his dream authentic Italian restaurant, Santa Suso's. But
Speaker 1: Santa Suso's it's more than just a restaurant. You also
Speaker 1: hear from mac Ledesma, Mr La Desma is an expert
Speaker 1: in organized crime. He knows the way the mafia thinks.
Speaker 1: He knows the way the mafia works, and he can
Speaker 1: walk you through how a few insults, a few jokes,
Speaker 1: that's not a reason it kills somebody. But money, drugs,
Speaker 1: that's more than enough that all will link to Mr Patrick.
Speaker 1: Today you will see that the forensics, the fingerprints, the
Speaker 1: d n A, and how it only links to one person,
Speaker 1: Mr Patrick, the common weelfare's the burden to prove beyond
Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt that Mr Santa Suso killed Mr Cafilero,
Speaker 1: and they will not meet this burden. Today. We will
Speaker 1: ask that you return the only just verdict there is
Speaker 1: and find Mr Santa Suso not guilty. And right on cue,
Speaker 1: the prosecution calls Nick Patrick, it's star witness, to the
Speaker 1: stand for his direct examination. Witnesses on direct are nearly
Speaker 1: always played by students of the same team. This Nick
Speaker 1: Patrick is about to break the code of silence and
Speaker 1: read out, Tommy Santa Suso, what did us at Billy
Speaker 1: of the outside to go out of smoke? We went outside,
Speaker 1: We walked up by the alley, We turned the corner
Speaker 1: and then there was Tommy right, Harry fark Bliss. What
Speaker 1: did the defendant do? Then he started being a hiss
Speaker 1: outability punching him, thrun him into the ground, kicking him.
Speaker 1: At one point you got on top of him and
Speaker 1: then grabbed his head and was smashing it into the ground.
Speaker 1: Billy was leading real bad And did you agree to
Speaker 1: help him get rid of the body? Well, yeah, what
Speaker 1: was I supposed to do? Getting people to flip is
Speaker 1: really the name of the game when it comes to
Speaker 1: the mob. That is how you're gonna make your big cases.
Speaker 1: I got pretty good at it. My name is Elijnig.
Speaker 1: I spent fourteen years as a prosecutor. Yes, they literally
Speaker 1: swear a blood oath when they become members of the
Speaker 1: BOB and they swear to omerta, which is the Italian
Speaker 1: word for silence. That said, they will flip if you
Speaker 1: charge them with the murder and they're looking at life
Speaker 1: behind bars. They'll if they've had a falling out with
Speaker 1: the family, if they've been here's a term shelved, the
Speaker 1: meaning sort of suspended without pay, they'll flip. If they
Speaker 1: have a beef going with somebody else, another term, they're
Speaker 1: a dispute. They will flip. So the biggest and best
Speaker 1: cases I made were based on cooperation, on flipping people
Speaker 1: and getting them to break through that code of silence,
Speaker 1: that code of loyalty. So the mob presence looms large
Speaker 1: at these cases and it really can either help or
Speaker 1: hurt the prosecution or the defense. It's yours, your Patrick.
Speaker 1: How old are your kids? Excuse me, your kids? They're
Speaker 1: still young, yes, and they've grown up in this world
Speaker 1: of yeah, I love you too, Yes, your honor. This
Speaker 1: line of questioning, if we may be heard outside the
Speaker 1: presence of the jury. Sure, I normally don't back down
Speaker 1: from an objection, which is half the game and trial,
Speaker 1: Like you cannot be rattled. B Are you meditative because
Speaker 1: you know your client's going to jail, Do it and
Speaker 1: let them worry about it if they're going to object
Speaker 1: or not, Like, just punch it. This line of questioning
Speaker 1: is relevant as Mr Patrick has a big deal to
Speaker 1: testify for the Commonwealth in today's case. Now, part of
Speaker 1: that deal is that he and his family get witnessed protection,
Speaker 1: they get relocated to a new place to start their
Speaker 1: life far away from the mafia. The relevance of this
Speaker 1: line of questioning is testing Mr Patrick's motive to testify
Speaker 1: on the stand today and as such as testing his
Speaker 1: bias and his credibility which is always relevant. Um, is
Speaker 1: it true that Mr Pratfick's doing act saw and his
Speaker 1: family he is, But I still wouldn't understand the age
Speaker 1: of his children having anything to deal with this or
Speaker 1: anything along that line, Your Honor, I can respond if
Speaker 1: if you need me to, Yes, Your Honor, at the
Speaker 1: point of the age of his children is just to
Speaker 1: show that Mr Patrick still has young children and they've
Speaker 1: grown up up in the world of the mafia. So
Speaker 1: part of this deal is that his young children no
Speaker 1: longer have to grow up in the world of the mafia.
Speaker 1: And it goes to his deal today to testify for
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth in exchange for that witness protection for him
Speaker 1: and his family. Again, Your Honor, a ghost through his
Speaker 1: motive to testify on the stand, to his bias as
Speaker 1: a witness and his credibility which is always relevant. Man,
Speaker 1: Your Honor, Jesus Scratch broke an overall objection. The Commonwealth
Speaker 1: in their cooperation agreement with you, offered you and your
Speaker 1: family witness protection. If I at that prect now I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about June eleven. Now, you
Speaker 1: exited the bar with Billy Cafirero that night, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: And you went out into the valley, yes, both me
Speaker 1: and Billy. And you loaded Mr Cafaliro's body into the
Speaker 1: trunk of your car. Correct, it was your car and
Speaker 1: not Mr Santa Susso's where Billy's bloody body was Correct,
Speaker 1: it was wrapped. But yes, So part of your cooperation
Speaker 1: agreement with the Commonwealth is not that you were an
Speaker 1: accomplice to the murder of Billy Cathiro. Is that your
Speaker 1: testimony today? No, that's right, and as an accomplice, you
Speaker 1: would agree with me that you were hard. It is
Speaker 1: not enough to be learned jurists and skill practitioners. Your
Speaker 1: people need understanding and love. The wounds and the suffering
Speaker 1: is deep. What then, does this demand of you? And
Speaker 1: returned to the biblical vision of justice, Shaw's showed the
Speaker 1: people in society that there is another way to serve.
Speaker 1: Your commitment to God's justice makes demands on you. It
Speaker 1: is not enough to be incorrupt, to go to your
Speaker 1: people with clean hands. Those guns mostly oh stretched will
Speaker 1: be right back after the break. While the St. Mary's
Speaker 1: team is scoring points, with the judges up north, the
Speaker 1: squad from the University of South Dakota is getting hyped
Speaker 1: getting here. I'm glad you're president awake. Did you have
Speaker 1: your nap this morning? I'm sure you did. Okay, these
Speaker 1: are law students, not football players. Do we need to
Speaker 1: make sure that here's the deal? As of ten thirty,
Speaker 1: the moment you speak to another competitor, you can no
Speaker 1: longer talk to me until the round is concluded. For
Speaker 1: coach Laura Rose, the battle of the experts is the
Speaker 1: first chance to finally get her team into the wind column.
Speaker 1: Her school is ranked dead last among all of the
Speaker 1: tournament's competitors. What I expect to happen this morning for
Speaker 1: them to see a very intelligent, very well compared, and
Speaker 1: well coached Berkeley team. I think that the evidentiary arguments
Speaker 1: are going to be on point. If Bailey stays calm
Speaker 1: and remembers that she does actually know what she's talking about,
Speaker 1: will be fine. You've got this, Bailey. Stand firm on
Speaker 1: your knowledge, right, stand firm on your preparation. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about the individual components of it. Right now, you know
Speaker 1: how to flow with this. Stressing yourself out and gonna
Speaker 1: do you any favors. You're a monster. Get in there
Speaker 1: and destroy people, guys. Blood makes the grassgrow, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding, it's it's it's time. You'll put in the work.
Speaker 1: You're ready for it. Everything else is just gravy at
Speaker 1: this point, it's just complete nerves and jitters. For me,
Speaker 1: at least, I'm Bailey more of it. And I am
Speaker 1: a third year law student. Justin I are arguing first today,
Speaker 1: and I think that we're so ready, We've got our
Speaker 1: case prepared. But these past couple of days it's been
Speaker 1: like just the most anticipation I think I've ever felt
Speaker 1: in law school. Round one, South Dakota versus you see Berkeley.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody's here. We just received the message. It started.
Speaker 1: Let's call the case of Commonwealth of Pennsylvania versus Thomas
Speaker 1: Santa SUSO. All right, and the bench counsel, would you
Speaker 1: like to make appearances for the record. Yes, good morning,
Speaker 1: your honor. My name is Bailey Moore back along with
Speaker 1: my co counsel just in trying to name is Justin
Speaker 1: Peter right, co counsel for the defense. All right, thank you,
Speaker 1: UML now here, these children, I swear I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're more nervous. This is the first group of
Speaker 1: students to be trained in the quote Laura Rose system,
Speaker 1: and they've been taught to be more assertive in pre
Speaker 1: trial motions, to not give away any advantage. Become a
Speaker 1: walth has six to address. So first, your honor, we
Speaker 1: asked that all witnesses be constructively sworn in in sequestered
Speaker 1: per rule six O three. Suppose acounts a little gay
Speaker 1: with that, barely say no, come on, or we were
Speaker 1: under the impression that all witnesses will be present for
Speaker 1: the testimony of other witnesses, especially for the experts there,
Speaker 1: good girl, Um, your honor, it's stipulated to that all
Speaker 1: witnesses will be present for other witnesses testimony, So we
Speaker 1: ask that they all be present. So therefore we disagree
Speaker 1: to see questration. They've already thrown them. They've already thrown them.
Speaker 1: Burn of proof. Well, it's called proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1: And there are three things today that the Commonwealth must
Speaker 1: prove to you all beyond a reasonable doubt. First, they
Speaker 1: must prove to you that William Cafiro is dead. Over
Speaker 1: the next two hours, the South Dakota team does their
Speaker 1: level best to stick to the evidence and to avoid
Speaker 1: the strionics usually associated with defense attorneys. Second, they must
Speaker 1: prove to you that Thomas Santa Suso was the one
Speaker 1: who killed William Cafirero. And lastly, they must prove that
Speaker 1: Thomas Santa Suso acted with the intent to kill William Cafirero.
Speaker 1: As I just said, this is a case about opportunity,
Speaker 1: obvious misses, and desired outcomes. And in order to show that,
Speaker 1: today the Commonwealth is going to present you with two witnesses.
Speaker 1: You're going to meet Sergeant Rosh. You see, Sergeant Rosh
Speaker 1: is the over eager yet misguided investigator, and then you'll
Speaker 1: meet their star witness a cross examination. Come on, justin, Yes,
Speaker 1: your Ms Patrick, you just testified on direct examination that
Speaker 1: Tommy Santa Suso was boosting trucks after boos and cars Ridge. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I did. I think most people can have
Speaker 1: like a voice in the courtroom. They're just gonna kind
Speaker 1: of find what that is. I would say, I'm pretty direct.
Speaker 1: I would like I don't get very flowery, like I
Speaker 1: know Rose like she likes the fairy tale style themes,
Speaker 1: for something and that's not me. It would sound goofy.
Speaker 1: If I was talking about snow White and the Seven Dwarves,
Speaker 1: people would be like, what's wrong with this guy? This
Speaker 1: wasn't the first time you've attested to this. No, I
Speaker 1: think I said the same thing in the preliminary hearing.
Speaker 1: That's what I knew. That sounds right to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and yo, yes, for sure. He just destroyed
Speaker 1: her credibility completely and totally. And now he gets into
Speaker 1: his planned questioning that was as smooth it South Dakota
Speaker 1: is up against a team with a much different style,
Speaker 1: more outgoing, more theatrical. At the heart of his murder
Speaker 1: was membership money. Oh you're on paper still first membership
Speaker 1: And see her looking down. She's gotten notes somewhere. Billy
Speaker 1: Capierro made a mockery of the defense. The stage is
Speaker 1: like a defense witness, so you'll hear from today. They
Speaker 1: are kept close given excuse me, favors, all in the
Speaker 1: hopes of producing loyalty to the battalitius. This theater stuff
Speaker 1: that you see leaking in it gets attention, but it's
Speaker 1: not litigating. It's not being a lawyer. I just heard
Speaker 1: some criticism in your voice about the theatricality that seems
Speaker 1: to be. It sounds like maybe more infused these days
Speaker 1: in terms of the mock trial competitions. I teach my
Speaker 1: students that trial is theater. I teach my students that
Speaker 1: at jurors and even judges are looking for some level
Speaker 1: of having their attention captured through the theatrics of what
Speaker 1: that trial is and what the facts are, etcetera. Am
Speaker 1: I wrong in that regard? No, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's wrong to say that we steal from
Speaker 1: the art form of theater all the time. As trial ers.
Speaker 1: You have to in order to present, in order to
Speaker 1: know when to use the softer tone of your voice
Speaker 1: to really in an opening statement, get the members of
Speaker 1: the jury to have that moment where all of a
Speaker 1: sudden their empathy is engaged and they're listening to you
Speaker 1: at a different level. I teach all of those tricks too.
Speaker 1: But what I come back to at the end of
Speaker 1: the day is juries want that theater. But juries are
Speaker 1: roving bands of twelve year old girls. And what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is they will spot the fake person
Speaker 1: like that, and when they spot the fake person, they're
Speaker 1: done with you. It doesn't matter how compelling you are,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how great of an order you are.
Speaker 1: If they think that you're fake and full of it,
Speaker 1: they're not going to reward you at the end of
Speaker 1: the day because they're gonna feel lied to. But it's
Speaker 1: not about making them into an actor. It's about teaching
Speaker 1: them the tricks from acting and teaching them the tricks
Speaker 1: from theater in order to do the presentation in the
Speaker 1: most authentic way that they can't because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, that's what juries end up rewarding. But
Speaker 1: you and I both know anybody could be an advocate,
Speaker 1: but not everybody could be a trial lawyer. Are you
Speaker 1: thinking about how they're gonna end up as lawyers and whatnot?
Speaker 1: They're going to be competitive trial lawyers and really be
Speaker 1: able to make a mark that way. I am much
Speaker 1: more concerned with building competitive lawyers than I am with
Speaker 1: building competitive trial teamers. You get four competitions if you're lucky, right,
Speaker 1: you get four times to compete at an at a
Speaker 1: mock trial competition in law school, maybe six if you
Speaker 1: really push it at some schools. Right, if you do
Speaker 1: three a year, you have the rest of your professional
Speaker 1: career that you're going to go out and be representing people,
Speaker 1: And so I'm much more concerned with making good attorneys.
Speaker 1: Coming back and say, Antonio, the pace of the trial
Speaker 1: is heating up. So let me get this straight. You
Speaker 1: heard the defendants say in three separate statements that he
Speaker 1: was going to kill Billy. Correct. Correct. The rookie Mariana
Speaker 1: and Sinas is thrown into the fire as a witness,
Speaker 1: and in another room, her teammates are listening, ready to
Speaker 1: bail her out. So as we sit here today, you
Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea about anything time he did after
Speaker 1: he left the bar. Correct, Yeah, you agree, it's possible
Speaker 1: he never left at all. I mean it could be possible. Yes,
Speaker 1: I saw him leave the bar with his wife. So
Speaker 1: and you didn't him again that night, No, I didn't,
Speaker 1: because the only way you would know if he hadn't
Speaker 1: come back that night is if he had physically re
Speaker 1: entered the bamboo lounge. Correct. Yes, And when I have
Speaker 1: really took was closing up. I was able to see
Speaker 1: a little bit outside, and that was the extent to
Speaker 1: what I could see outside. So as we sit here today,
Speaker 1: you have absolutely no idea about anything I did. Actually,
Speaker 1: left the botter. Correct. Yeah, objection, your honor, asked and answered, Boss,
Speaker 1: we have no further questions, your honor. When the experts
Speaker 1: are called, the trial moves into open warfare, with lawyers
Speaker 1: trying to crush the credibility of the other side's witness. Hello,
Speaker 1: my name is Macdesma. This Macladesma is portrayed by St.
Speaker 1: Mary's Cold Dobula. Business has been hired eighteen times before
Speaker 1: to do this. Correct. Yes, so set out of the
Speaker 1: eighteen times that your business has been hired to consult,
Speaker 1: it's been hired by monsters. Correct, It's been hired violent
Speaker 1: monsters and their defense counsel. You did not speak with Nickpatrick. No,
Speaker 1: Now you believe nick statements to the police were truthful? Correct,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. So you believe the objection,
Speaker 1: your honor, I mean, very sustained. Sometimes all of this
Speaker 1: high speed action results in a misfire objection, Your honor,
Speaker 1: your objection, Yes, your honor, objection to the commonwealth saying
Speaker 1: that my client got an attorney. What's your objection? My
Speaker 1: objection is withdraw. Okay, But the mark of a sharp
Speaker 1: attorney is a quick recovery. Let's talk about your investigation
Speaker 1: on Billy's murder. You collected evidence in this case, yes,
Speaker 1: and one of the evidence that you collected was the
Speaker 1: interview of Mr Patrick the written report, Yes, the interpe
Speaker 1: Mr Patrick. But we don't have that audio of the
Speaker 1: interview today. No, we don't have it because your police
Speaker 1: department lost it. Yeah, I'm not sure. As the trial
Speaker 1: heads to break, Andy Viskora, the team captain, checks in
Speaker 1: with her co counsel, Dude, I forgot the last look,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Was it that bad? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't go off screen. I mean, it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: The cross was good, But like, are you confident in yourself?
Speaker 1: Like you knew that you walked over stop for like
Speaker 1: two minutes to ask one question. I know, I just
Speaker 1: couldn't remember my question. It's okay. If you don't remember
Speaker 1: ended on that, it's okay. Like you clearly were going
Speaker 1: off screen. No, you didn't fail. It was a good
Speaker 1: it was a good yes, I'm sure, But don't but
Speaker 1: be confident in yourself, like you know what you're I
Speaker 1: know you could not remember. Just take a breath and
Speaker 1: just like take a moment, like you're okay, everything's okay,
Speaker 1: Like it was a really good. Cross. You got it.
Speaker 1: We got everything we needed. It's fine. Let you down.
Speaker 1: Know you didn't let me down. You can't dwell on
Speaker 1: it for too long because we have a job to do.
Speaker 1: And it's like you can't sit there and feel sorry
Speaker 1: for yourself, like just keep going, like you have to
Speaker 1: keep going and you have to remember that, like confidence
Speaker 1: is half of the game jazz, because you're not being
Speaker 1: you don't believe in yourself, and like I can't do
Speaker 1: it for you. Like sometimes like you like get down
Speaker 1: and you like let it like go into you, and
Speaker 1: then you're like and you hesitate and the next question
Speaker 1: is the right question? It like you know this stuff,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, like you got it? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like just hit it like you sarcasm, Like all of
Speaker 1: your questions or your questions, but like your tone of
Speaker 1: voice and how you're asking them are going to convey
Speaker 1: more than what you're actually saying. We all got confidence issues.
Speaker 1: We all got confidence issues. Are you ready for this? Lead? Direct? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: put the fund down. You're not crying, You're fine, lawyers,
Speaker 1: don't cry. Let's go. I need you to hype up.
Speaker 1: We got this, Okay, we got everything. This is the
Speaker 1: easy parts practice. Yes, let's go. Okay, is our our
Speaker 1: teeth back? Get all the attorneys to screen your honor
Speaker 1: council members of the jury. Earlier today, my co AC
Speaker 1: Council Bailey MOOREVAC told us this case we come down
Speaker 1: to an opportunity obvious mrs and the desired outcome. The
Speaker 1: teams are ready for closing arguments, and the pressure is
Speaker 1: on to impress the judges one last time in South Dakota.
Speaker 1: That job falls to Justin and now the Commonwealth comes
Speaker 1: before us today and asks you to give them their
Speaker 1: desired outcome, an outcome that they haven't quite earned. Then
Speaker 1: we also heard from the defenses expert, Mr Macladsma, the
Speaker 1: DESMA who spent years in the FBI has investigated many
Speaker 1: many organized criminals, pointed out a few things that didn't
Speaker 1: make sense. The few things that didn't make sense, like
Speaker 1: the circumstances and suspects that were never investigated. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about some of those circumstances. The first one being you
Speaker 1: can't get the technology to the timing of the death.
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go, Justin, there's my boy.
Speaker 1: The extremely close to the timing of the release from
Speaker 1: the guy for the potential violations of the markets are
Speaker 1: the sanction killing and sanctional killing is when the blessing
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, It's Andy's turn to close out the case. Yes,
Speaker 1: can we proceed? Some things are too good to be true,
Speaker 1: but the commonwealth things. They have their slam dunk conviction.
Speaker 1: Why does anything else matter. It matters because they have
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. It matters because the real killer is
Speaker 1: sitting in the wrong chair. It matters because in the
Speaker 1: United States of America, no one is above the law
Speaker 1: and no one is beneath it either. It means that
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, president, priest, prostitute, or even
Speaker 1: former mafia member, the law protects you until the CommonWell
Speaker 1: until the state can prove otherwise. Mr Patrick thinks that
Speaker 1: because he delivered this perfect present of a case to
Speaker 1: you today, no one will look too hard at him.
Speaker 1: Pay attention to the red flashing lights pulsing in front
Speaker 1: of you. There is more evidence in this case that
Speaker 1: Nick Patrick, Council, you've run out of time. Yes, your honor,
Speaker 1: you revolved in this case. Yes, you remembers to the
Speaker 1: jury the defense that I could have cut it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't cut it perfect close it was, it wasn't perfect.
Speaker 1: After the end of the round, the presiding judge and
Speaker 1: the jurors tally up their points. They mark a range
Speaker 1: of scores for the quality of the openings and the closings,
Speaker 1: as well as the effectiveness of the direct and cross examinations.
Speaker 1: Judges could just drop an acknowledgement in the chat or
Speaker 1: give me a shout and let me know when their
Speaker 1: ballot has been submitted. I can confirm with the back
Speaker 1: office that it has been received. How do you feel.
Speaker 1: I feel good. There are parts of it that could
Speaker 1: have been smoother. There are parts of it where they
Speaker 1: could have argued a little bit more, but they used
Speaker 1: their time judiciously. They pointed out the things that they
Speaker 1: needed to point out. I would have liked just to
Speaker 1: point out the impeachments that we got in the clothes
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I think he attacked the
Speaker 1: credibility of the witnesses just by in particular, since he
Speaker 1: had that moment our comments. Let's just prepare judges, let's
Speaker 1: just go in alphabetical order. As for the defense, I
Speaker 1: would say that the cadence of the closing made difficult
Speaker 1: to follow what was and what was not important within
Speaker 1: your arguments. That's happen. Like I said before I pitched up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a total voice critique just it's gonna be
Speaker 1: so bad. Both teams did well, but I would caution
Speaker 1: the prosecution to be less theatrical, and for the defense,
Speaker 1: I would say pick your energy up a little bit more,
Speaker 1: especially if you get stuck at a point. It seemed
Speaker 1: like at some points both sides may have been doing
Speaker 1: some reading um, which is okay uh in my view,
Speaker 1: because you don't have to memorize every single factor case
Speaker 1: in order to be yes you boss, I could find
Speaker 1: use my power one. Yeah, I was trying to find
Speaker 1: it's happen. But it wasn't a terrible cloth. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a terrible clothes justin you did exactly what you need
Speaker 1: to do. You walk them through the element. You walked
Speaker 1: them through where they didn't have proof. You did exactly
Speaker 1: what I would have What did you do you handle
Speaker 1: It's that should have been a time was Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we're going up against the world's first boring over the
Speaker 1: ashole like non existent real world team. Yeah, like that guy,
Speaker 1: exactly what did you get? Zoby Michelot my name or
Speaker 1: a Quarterbacky, you handled that around, or really did, but
Speaker 1: you yeah, shaken off, shake off the shake off the
Speaker 1: bad vife freaks. I'm telling you can handle that. The
Speaker 1: fact that that closure was as scripted as he was
Speaker 1: and was as reading as much as he was. I'm
Speaker 1: not meaning this as any kind of insult to Berkeley,
Speaker 1: because that's a way that they can choose to coach.
Speaker 1: But this stuff drives me nuts. I can't stand preplanned
Speaker 1: gestures where it's been clear that they've been told what
Speaker 1: mark to hit with it, and they were clearly reading
Speaker 1: both their opening and their closing, and they're opening was
Speaker 1: long as hell. It was like ten minutes long. It
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Your theory is way better on the State case.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff that we discarded about a month ago.
Speaker 1: Now at this point was was what they went with.
Speaker 1: You guys are better prepared. You just have to stay focused.
Speaker 1: In San Antonio, the mood is tense as they wait
Speaker 1: for comments. This WiFi better start working before I throw
Speaker 1: a hand trump. Hey, you guys, I'm gonna keep my
Speaker 1: comments as short as possible, no matter how much I
Speaker 1: love the sun of own voice, because I know you
Speaker 1: all are probably hungry because I am. But in all seriously, guys, lookers,
Speaker 1: and you'll even I would have pulled with all the
Speaker 1: emotions lily today, I would have been shouted out of
Speaker 1: the pegroom. Um, you are going to find a request
Speaker 1: emotion and limited. You better make superiod matters. You better
Speaker 1: make sure he's not completely st everyone's time and you
Speaker 1: might lay your emotion your threat. You have to be
Speaker 1: able to adjust. And um, I mean, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: the running out of time card is that to our
Speaker 1: west was concerned for me or back? I'm gonna sort
Speaker 1: of piggyback on that comment. To me, this felt pretty
Speaker 1: sloppy for a trial at this level. Um, going over time,
Speaker 1: not listening to the rulings on motions and objections, not
Speaker 1: having a backup plan if you lose on a particular
Speaker 1: line of questioning, and just sort of like dropping it.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like at this level, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at the scoresheet and you got to
Speaker 1: see what we're evaluating you on. This is an overall
Speaker 1: performance kind of a competition, overall performance kind of sporesheet.
Speaker 1: There's no part on the sporesheet for me to give
Speaker 1: you bonus points for making motions eliminate and objections that
Speaker 1: didn't advance your case in the end, you thought we
Speaker 1: were sloppy. How are we slopping? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: thought you did good. Maybe it was me away cross Oky,
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry about the running out of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine. No, it's not fine. Down, I'm sorry. Oh.
Speaker 1: After one long day of competition, the St. Mary's team,
Speaker 1: despite the harsh comments from the judges, beat the University
Speaker 1: of Illinois Chicago. They lost their next trial to Chicago Kent.
Speaker 1: The team piles into Andy's car trying to clear their heads. Sander,
Speaker 1: and why do you have a keens and dress? Because
Speaker 1: my sister had her, Keen said recently, and I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get this to the right cleaners, but I've
Speaker 1: been forgetting because I'm running around like a crazy person. Christen,
Speaker 1: I wonder what judge was that complained. It was like
Speaker 1: our main judge, no vote. I't talk about that anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm They're like, I'm gonna be pissed if this one
Speaker 1: guy carried his wolves, Like is that a joke? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was good. He was also reading. Everyone needs to
Speaker 1: calm down. It's hard breaking first, so hard for this
Speaker 1: and we still got two rounds. I mean we we
Speaker 1: got your rounds right, Like today's rounds were like they're okay,
Speaker 1: definitely could do better tomorrow. It's like, and your opening
Speaker 1: was so good. Like I'm just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: we do need to hit it harder. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how else I'm gonna cut my frosted brow. I'm
Speaker 1: only gonna like, I'm gonna make it tight like that guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just need to be like was there finger prints? No? Alright? Cool?
Speaker 1: Next on the night there because I keep going just
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just cut out the investigation block to
Speaker 1: the rest of the box. You're right, we know what
Speaker 1: we need to do. It's gonna be good. ALP, my
Speaker 1: kids never do my trial. What do you do? More
Speaker 1: from Class Action after the break. South Dakota is also
Speaker 1: one and one. They lost to UC Berkeley, but coach
Speaker 1: Rose doesn't tell her team it scores during the tournament.
Speaker 1: We spilled the beans to Bailey after the competition. I
Speaker 1: haven't even seen the scorecards. So did they beat us
Speaker 1: in both of those rounds? Sorry? But yeah they did?
Speaker 1: You're kidding. Oh that is such a bummer and kind
Speaker 1: of funny that they won, I remember, but acting that
Speaker 1: came from it, it just seemed fake. And then there
Speaker 1: was a lot of smiling at which I didn't understand
Speaker 1: because it was, you know, a murder trial. I remember
Speaker 1: being shocked during it and just being like, what are
Speaker 1: we going up against? Right now? I think they were polished.
Speaker 1: I'll give them that, like they knew their facts, they
Speaker 1: knew the fact pattern. It was polished. You could tell
Speaker 1: they had prepared, but they didn't prepare in the way
Speaker 1: that South Dakota had prepared. So it shocks me that
Speaker 1: day won. But then they rallied and beat the highly
Speaker 1: ranked University of South Carolina team. You didn't include a
Speaker 1: lot of the evidence that corroborates the Nickpatrick's story, right,
Speaker 1: because you didn't include the defendant cell phone record, No
Speaker 1: I did not. You didn't include anything about the autopsy report,
Speaker 1: No I didn't. Did that feel better? Ibody, feel a
Speaker 1: little better now, right? So good? SHARE's the difference. You
Speaker 1: feel better this afternoon because you chased down the tracks
Speaker 1: when they left them chased down trackable. You guys were
Speaker 1: nervous about that because the time this morning. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about that tomorrow, you know, your arguments, you know your positioned,
Speaker 1: you know where you're going to go. You'll handled that,
Speaker 1: and you ate the puppies without embarrassing them so badly
Speaker 1: that they felt like they were shamed. That closing, sir, Hot,
Speaker 1: damn Hot, damn Brandon, you did that first part of
Speaker 1: the clothes in like nine minutes. Just so you know,
Speaker 1: y'all are great. I'm super duper proud of today. You
Speaker 1: should be super duper proud of today. You, sir that witnessed.
Speaker 1: Would it refresh your recollection if I pointed your right
Speaker 1: to it? And then she took forever and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'll live for you. I think Bill, Yes, Like Holliday
Speaker 1: along twice on Sunday, everybody had moments of real advocacy
Speaker 1: brilliance today. So I called my parents between rounds. So
Speaker 1: right after I argued they've gotten very invested in this.
Speaker 1: They obviously, you know, know about the case, so they
Speaker 1: know that it was a murder trial. And then I
Speaker 1: made the joke to Rose yesterday. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to send my parents a link, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they know how to change their name on Zoom,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to teach them how to do that.
Speaker 1: So my wife looks at it as a student organization,
Speaker 1: and she does not understand why there's a podcast following
Speaker 1: us for our student organization. She doesn't understand why there's
Speaker 1: a camera set up for a student organization. She doesn't
Speaker 1: understand why we have to compete in competitions for a
Speaker 1: student organization. She just compares it to like the nursing
Speaker 1: club and undergrad. She's like, I was in whatever club
Speaker 1: and undergrad and we never had to do any of that.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing all this takes up so much time.
Speaker 1: You don't need to be doing that. Breathe the home rest.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try our case tomorrow. We're gonna handler ship.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the same thing all over again. Okay, breathing,
Speaker 1: go fourth, do good things. Any questions you need to
Speaker 1: ask me, I don't know yet. It'll it'll be a
Speaker 1: while before they they announced that as soon as I
Speaker 1: have the pairing, you'll have the pairing. He looks to
Speaker 1: the trunk. They count one, two, three, The trunk pops open,
Speaker 1: and the spotlight of the trunk shines on the victim
Speaker 1: of this case, Mr William Cafierrell, sprawled out bruised, swollen
Speaker 1: lamp and using what little life he has left to
Speaker 1: plead for help. Day two was a letdown for South Dakota.
Speaker 1: They lost a battle against Cumberland again news to Bailey.
Speaker 1: After the round, Justin and I went into one of
Speaker 1: the study rooms at school and he goes, God, that
Speaker 1: was brutal, and I was like, Bill and Brandon just
Speaker 1: slammed them and it was impeaching, it was correcting them
Speaker 1: on the record, it was all of this stuff, and yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. And then exhaustion creeped
Speaker 1: in and they lost a top ranked Baylor Luck in
Speaker 1: the next rounds. Everybody but Luck, everybody. You know. It
Speaker 1: was just tears because you put in so much work,
Speaker 1: you have your school's name behind you representing them, so
Speaker 1: it's almost worse than a sports loss. And it was
Speaker 1: worse because there were definitely rounds that we should not
Speaker 1: have lost that we did lose, and that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: happen in sports. So that was very, very, very tough,
Speaker 1: and to just kind of feel like we didn't do
Speaker 1: enough for like we've disappointed you know, usd or and
Speaker 1: you know and I know that that is not the case.
Speaker 1: There's just stuff you can't control, but you do take
Speaker 1: it personally, and I definitely did. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: know who we go against because we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: email them. Jasmine wants to know who we're going to
Speaker 1: go against, and I'm like, I just rather not know
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter if we're going to prosecution or
Speaker 1: defense first. Oh well, yeah, I want to know that too.
Speaker 1: But Jasmine's out here like trying to scout people. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything except you ceiling in Baylor. But still
Speaker 1: at St. Mary's, the unforced errors continue for Jason Goss's team.
Speaker 1: He and his wife Maritza can only watch and shake
Speaker 1: their heads. Didn't it weird? So Andy got and he
Speaker 1: got a ten, a nine and a six on our
Speaker 1: closing It every every round ten and nine in a six.
Speaker 1: Every round she has had somebody give her a six.
Speaker 1: What did Jasmine get on her opening? She got an eight,
Speaker 1: a five and a nine in the five the same
Speaker 1: person who gave Andy a six. So that is a
Speaker 1: judge that just did not like us from the beginning.
Speaker 1: From the beginning, head coach A. J. Blito de Luna
Speaker 1: has been following the tournament all weekend. So what do
Speaker 1: you think is going on? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that they're rattled from the beginning. You know,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't trust us. Yeah, so they're bad so and
Speaker 1: that's going to affect the jury, that's right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand that though, because we don't practice that way.
Speaker 1: So why are they Why is this happening? Now? We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. After the break. St. Mary's is trounced
Speaker 1: by Temple University and completely run out of gas against
Speaker 1: Pace University in New York. The St. Mary's team piles
Speaker 1: into a car and heads to Frida, a restaurant owned
Speaker 1: by Andy's parents. Well, you might want to sit on
Speaker 1: the other side to the Cutch Dour and hutch gosins
Speaker 1: in here, and then a j can have a seat
Speaker 1: if you want to do our servant dream. Oh yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: can I get him tamer? That actually sounds really good?
Speaker 1: What are you getting? I think overall, I'm proud of us.
Speaker 1: I think if we don't break because substantially, substantively we
Speaker 1: were there, but also like we gave it our all
Speaker 1: and we have to learn from our procedural mistakes next time.
Speaker 1: And it's Okay, this is our you know, this is
Speaker 1: the very fun I think I luck looked out. I
Speaker 1: was really stressing playing Nickpatrick just this whole weekend, and
Speaker 1: luckily in both teams where we played I played mckpatrick,
Speaker 1: they didn't go hard nearly as hard as I feel
Speaker 1: like we were across and so I feel like they
Speaker 1: really prepared me for what was to come. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that was my take from today. I can
Speaker 1: read a little easier for now. No one hands happy
Speaker 1: that made it through another day. Um, it's a very
Speaker 1: tired one to recover, but we did so much work
Speaker 1: for two months, very very late nights. I want to
Speaker 1: advance even know it's going to be exhausting next day,
Speaker 1: so we could say, you know, it was more worth it.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, even if we don't break,
Speaker 1: it was a great experience for my first outing for
Speaker 1: law school. A j stops by just in time to
Speaker 1: hear the announcement about which teams will move on. It's
Speaker 1: called making the break. Hi, how are you well? How
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Speaker 1: wearing your feelings on your sleeves. Right, you could see it.
Speaker 1: This is something that you can use a strength. You
Speaker 1: were not beaten this weekend. It was on forced errors.
Speaker 1: So the question is how do you take this feeling
Speaker 1: and turn it into strength. How do you take this
Speaker 1: feeling and say, no, we're not going to do that again.
Speaker 1: We're better than that. Our coaches believe in us. We
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Speaker 1: I'm I saw them that we didn't break into the semis.
Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, this is Andy's mom and dad. Anything
Speaker 1: in life another you go to see her, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: is baby. This is what they do on this But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's impressive to know, and it's impressive what you can do.
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Speaker 1: kind of disappointing in the sense that I did have
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