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Speaker 1: was prepared to watch Mitchell Green Bay Packers versus the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings for all the marbles, and people have been

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Speaker 1: sleeping on the Minnesota Vikings, and people being this guy Mentchell,

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Speaker 1: I've been sleeping on him because they are still in

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Speaker 1: the hunt from the number one seed. After all this

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Speaker 1: Boys beat up, very beat up, very determined to get

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Speaker 1: that one seed, in need of that one seed. How

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Speaker 1: are you feeling, Richard? I'm feeling on edge to say

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought two teams, you know, two losses,

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Speaker 2: argument can be made. These are the two best teams

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Speaker 2: the NFL. And Minnesota showed it today, Rich, I mean

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. The storyline here was the Detroit Lions need

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Speaker 2: Green Bay to win in order to secure that one seed.

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Speaker 2: If they beat the forty nine ers, they would secure

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Speaker 2: came back late. How impressed were you, Rich with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: Let's start at the top. Three hundred and seventy seven

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Speaker 1: Like myself, I said this, and and and green Bay

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Speaker 1: fans keep going back to that clip of when Aaron

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't you know why because Detroit beat

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Speaker 1: And that defense. Green Bays defense has been playing stellar

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Speaker 1: crazy because they are doing something. They're fourteen and two

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Speaker 1: their mind, Mitchell revenge. Now, sometimes you get a little

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Speaker 1: And if you mess around so angry and so emotional,

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Speaker 1: But this NFC North has been incredible. It sure has.

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Speaker 2: In Week eighteen, the NFL could not have dreamed up

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Speaker 2: marbles Richard. Coming into this season, Minnesota was viewed as

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Speaker 1: I have no reason out to think that, Mitch, Well,

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Speaker 1: we've already overlooked them enough. Give them credit now, because

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Speaker 1: Brian Floor as a system like he's making a complex.

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Speaker 1: He's putting a lot of pressure on himself and maximizing

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Speaker 1: the right system. He's drawing up plays to give Sam

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Speaker 1: then great play by the players. You know, Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: You know, this is what development means in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League guys sit there and ready to give up

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald's what twenty five twenty six, Like you would

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Cincinnati. What a wild finish. Probably one

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Speaker 2: of the best games, if not the best game of

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Speaker 2: they're they're just getting stuffed, you know, at the goal

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's got a pretty sizable effect on this league

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati could have easily been up multiple scores going into halftime.

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Speaker 1: You catch it between two defenders like he did, and

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Speaker 1: Really starting to shine for this offense. Courtland Sutton, big

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Speaker 1: don't know if you I don't know if you make

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Speaker 1: But if push comes to shove, do you really want

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Speaker 1: it's not. You like a lot of other people to

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Speaker 1: who's one of them, Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow has sent

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if he beats him, if

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, but still a great season from Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: The Bengals played the Steelers in a very meaningful game.

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Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals for as good as they've been down

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Speaker 2: this stretch, and for how does his team's been and

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Speaker 2: how has Joe Burrow's been that disappointing start to the season,

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Speaker 2: and it's happened on back to back seasons where they're

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Speaker 2: you know, unless he can catch some serious lightning in

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Speaker 2: you know, it's also gonna be their doom. Cincinnati, like

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Speaker 2: you said, could cause a lot of damage in this playoff,

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Speaker 2: and there's no question about it. I bet if you

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Speaker 2: is gonna be Cincinnati Bengals. So, like you said, Richard,

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Speaker 2: Let's take it to Buffalo. You've been very critical about

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, man, he's got this team playing so well

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Speaker 2: at the right time. Richard, what are your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Well, they're a great team and they continue to show that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're not giving their defense enough credit. They

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Speaker 1: That's just not true. This defense calls two turnovers in

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Speaker 1: saying Chargers Spans are saying it's because they're running the

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Speaker 1: ball more. And obviously they have Greg Roman as the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and that's their style. They're going to be

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Speaker 1: a ball control, control the clock, play defense, don't turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over. And that's what they've done is twenty

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Speaker 1: one touchdowns, three interceptions, efficient football, not turning the ball over,

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Speaker 1: but not having the Gotti stats. So they're winning football

434
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Speaker 1: games their ten wins, they're in the playoffs. That's the

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Speaker 1: way they're choosing to win. But on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens are running the ball well,

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Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball well. They're scoring a lot of

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Speaker 1: points and they're playing football and their defense is starting

439
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Speaker 1: to wake up and playing their best football. We'll see

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Speaker 1: those two teams face off in the wild card, it appears.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what that it will be.

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Speaker 1: But the Buffalo Bills look really good, look dominant. It

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Speaker 1: looks like they'll make it to the next round. In

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, I don't know who they'll play

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Speaker 1: in the wild card, but it won't be Joe Burrow

446
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Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati Bengals, I don't think. And so it'll

447
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Speaker 1: likely be either the Broncos or the Miami Dolphins. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I would expect them to win the game

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo against either of those teams, and then they'll

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Speaker 1: have a matchup with whoever's left, whether it's to Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans or Pittsburgh Steelers or whoever is the lowest seed,

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Speaker 1: or actually it could be Baltimore. You know, it could

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Speaker 1: be Buffalo Baltimore, which is a game that everybody would

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Speaker 1: want to see against the MVP and the MVP runner

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Speaker 1: up likely whichever way it goes, if Josh Allen wins

456
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Speaker 1: the MVP, Lamar would likely to be the runner up.

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Speaker 1: If Lamar wins, Josh will be the runner up. So

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Speaker 1: we might get that match up in a divisional which

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Speaker 1: would be a really fun game and the NFL will

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Richard on the other side of the field was the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets, and this team is in disarray. It's

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Speaker 2: easy to say this season has been a utter disappointment

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Speaker 2: for this organization. From the way they handled Roberts Salah

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Speaker 2: and his firing, now to this Aaron Rodgers situation. Allegedly,

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Speaker 2: there's reports that Garrett Wilson wants out if Aaron Rodgers returns.

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Speaker 2: What do the Jets do with Aaron Rodgers? What would

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Speaker 2: you do if you're the New York Jets going into

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Speaker 2: this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I think they got a tough decision this offseason. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they bring Aaron back because the

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Speaker 1: performance was just not up to snuff. They'll bring a

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Speaker 1: new coaching staff in and a new GM, a new everything.

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Speaker 1: So when you're bringing that in, you want to start fresh. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you have the talent at receiver. You could probably show

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Speaker 1: up that offensive line some but I think you would

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Speaker 1: want to have your quarterback of the future in there,

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Speaker 1: and I think you draft that which you want Aaron

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Speaker 1: to mentor him. I'm not sure what Aaron's cap number is,

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Speaker 1: but I'd have to look that up. But if it's

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Speaker 1: too high and it doesn't make sense to get rid

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Speaker 1: of them, then you have him mentored in the next

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Speaker 1: young guy. But if not, then I think you go

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Speaker 1: to young guy with a veteran backup who can understand it.

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Speaker 1: Get him a veteran tackle, some veteran offensive lineman who

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Speaker 1: can help him understand how to play this game, a

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Speaker 1: good coordinator, a good head coach to coach him up

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Speaker 1: and put him in position to be successful. Your guy

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson would be a number one on my list.

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Speaker 1: But again, I don't think a lot of guys are

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Speaker 1: going to have the New York Jets and high on

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Speaker 1: their list because of the way Woody Johnson handled this

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Speaker 1: Robert salav situation firing him five games into the season,

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Speaker 1: So I don't expect him to necessarily have their pick

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Speaker 1: up the litter who wants to come there, not because

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Speaker 1: they don't have a talented team, because their ownership groups

497
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Speaker 1: has shown that they will be volatile, that they will

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Speaker 1: get involved, that they will will put their input in

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Speaker 1: where it's not desired and really detrimentally impact this team.

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Speaker 1: And that's what they did this season. Firing a head

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Speaker 1: coach five games into the season. You gave this team

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Speaker 1: no chance. They were two and three at the time,

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Speaker 1: not the best recond in the world, not the worst record,

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Speaker 1: but teams have come back from that. You look at

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, they were a ze to two to

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Speaker 1: start one and two, and then came back and imagined

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Speaker 1: him firing a coach because he had to stumble out

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Speaker 1: the gates, No, you don't do that, and so it

509
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Speaker 1: didn't end up working out for them. They won two

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Speaker 1: more games the entire season. So you fire a coach

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Speaker 1: at two and three, your team is at four and twelve. Now,

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Speaker 1: like I'm sure Woody Johnson's he's probably not kicking himself

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Speaker 1: because he's you know what I mean. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that really owns his mistakes.

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Speaker 1: But it's a mistake all together. And so if you're

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Speaker 1: a head coach and you have your pick of a litter,

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want the New York Jets way because

518
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Speaker 1: of that. You understand the media scrutiny that that position gets,

519
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Speaker 1: and they're on you every week. They're they're killing you,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Coaches go there to die

521
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Speaker 1: at this point, and so do you really want that

522
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Speaker 1: to be the first place you go in your coaching

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Speaker 1: career if you're Ben Johnson? And I doubt it, man,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it goes Chicago and that's it,

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Speaker 1: and you go back to Detroit. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: don't take the Chicago job and you don't think that's attractive,

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Speaker 1: you go back to Detroit and you say, hey, one

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Speaker 1: more again, and you get a raise. You get a

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Speaker 1: pay raise, maybe a couple million dollars. You talk to

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Speaker 1: the Fords and say, hey, I know you don't want

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Speaker 1: to pay me like a head coach, but you got

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Speaker 1: to get me into the ballpark. And that's and I

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Speaker 1: think that's something that they could probably work out. But

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if they continue with Aaron,

535
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Speaker 1: and I don't know if he wants to continue, you

536
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think at some point you

537
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Speaker 1: look up and you say, man, I don't want to

538
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Speaker 1: keep putting bad tape out there. I don't want to,

539
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Speaker 1: you know, I know I can play better than this.

540
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Speaker 1: I believe in myself more than this, and I don't

541
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Speaker 1: want to keep putting myself and my teammates through this. Obviously,

542
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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, there's rumors about him wanting now. I think

543
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Speaker 1: that can be qull with the right situation that comes in.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you watch Aaron Rodgers documentary on Netflix, you

545
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: can see the competitive fire that burns inside of him,

546
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Speaker 2: and I highly doubt he's gonna hang it up atter

547
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Speaker 2: this year, and I'm sure he's gonna come and be

548
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: prepared for next year, but I don't know if it's

549
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: gonna be with the Jets, Richard, You've seen it from

550
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: this staff, from this ownership group. We'll see, but it's

551
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: just clearly not working out right now. The Philadelphia Eagles

552
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: put a pound into the Dallas Cowboys forty one to seven.

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Speaker 2: This was without Jalen Hurts, obviously bruised up with the

554
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Speaker 2: concussion last week. And we saw Kenny Pickett come in

555
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Speaker 2: and also get knocked out. And then your boy from Stanford, right,

556
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Speaker 2: Tanner McKee comes in and that rock all over the yard.

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Speaker 2: Holy Kyle Man, Let's start with Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: This guy, it cannot be stopped. Thirty one rushes for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty seven yards. He's got two hundred

561
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Speaker 2: five thousand yards on the season, and he's only one

562
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Speaker 2: hundred and one yards away from Eric Dickerson's record. First off,

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you because obviously, with the expansion

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Speaker 2: of the league's schedule, when playing seventeen games now, like

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Speaker 2: I could if I was Eric Dickerson, I would have

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Speaker 2: a legitimate beef about somebody breaking my record. That's playing

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Speaker 2: an additional game. And what do you think the NFL

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00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: should do with these records going forward, because as we

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Speaker 2: see games added to the schedule, inevitably that gives more

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Speaker 2: people opportunity and more opportunity to break these records.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Eric. Nobody wants to see their

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Speaker 1: record break broken, regardless of the circumstances. Obviously, though, let's

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Speaker 1: use common sense. Because Eric Dickerson broke O. J. Simpson's record,

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Speaker 1: and O J. Simpson's record, they had fourteen games to play.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, Eric Dickerson broke it. He had sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: So now sa Kwon breaks it, he has seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to get the rhythm here. It's going to

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Speaker 1: keep happening. If the game keeps increasing, the people want

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Speaker 1: to see more games, Guys get to play games. Records

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Speaker 1: are meant to be broken. Anybody that has them will

581
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Speaker 1: say that. I'm sure he doesn't want it to be broken,

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Speaker 1: but somebody will be break Saquan's record. If he breaks

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Speaker 1: this one, somebody will go get his. And that's what

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Speaker 1: progression is. You know, I don't think you'll ever run

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Speaker 1: into a time where somebody's not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to break the record because guys, you know, keep evolving,

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Speaker 1: The game keeps evolving, the rules keep evolving, in more

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Speaker 1: games or to be played. You hear the eighteen You

589
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Speaker 1: hear the eighteen game schedule continuing to be a point

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Speaker 1: of conversation. Roger Cadell speaks about it almost every year.

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Speaker 1: They were speaking about it when we were in collective

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Speaker 1: bargaining agreements. We said no, and then it went seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and then we got into a tough about that, and

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Speaker 1: it ended up being seventeen. So I congratulations first off

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Speaker 1: to Sakwan Barkley for the two thousand yard club, big

596
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Speaker 1: season for him, career season after leaving the New York

597
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Speaker 1: Giants in a way that he did not want to

598
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Speaker 1: go into a team with a great offensive line, great

599
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Speaker 1: great scheme, a team a divisional rival. This fan base

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Speaker 1: has embraced them. I'm happy for him, happy for his family,

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Speaker 1: happy for his career. He's getting to shine like the

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Speaker 1: player that people expected when he came out of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So this is a great deal for him. Only the

604
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Speaker 1: ninth player ever to go over two thousand yards in

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Speaker 1: a season, that's a big deal. A huge deal. Again,

606
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Speaker 1: the National Football League has been around for a very

607
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: long time, and he continues to elevate, continues to shine.

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Speaker 1: At a time where running backs aren't really appreciated, are

609
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Speaker 1: seeing he and Josh Jacobs and Derrick Henry are doing

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Speaker 1: everything in their power to bring the running back position back.

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Speaker 1: Your guy, Jamier Gibbs as well, Christian McCaffrey, guys like

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Speaker 1: that are continuing to do what they can to allow

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Speaker 1: people to know running back position is not dead the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, and if you have a great one,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance. All their teams are in contention

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Speaker 1: right now. And if you lose a great one the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Titans, the Raiders, you're likely going to be picking

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Speaker 1: in the top five next year. So maybe you take notes,

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Speaker 1: National Football League take notes.

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Speaker 2: It certainly looks that way. And the Eagles go to

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Speaker 2: play the Giants next week. We'll see if he gets

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Speaker 2: that opportunity, if they choose to play him. With the

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Speaker 2: number two seed pretty much locked up for the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious to see if Saquon goes for the

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Speaker 2: record next week. Richard, He's earned a lot of awards,

626
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Speaker 2: but he's earned our Award of Players in Prime Time,

627
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Speaker 2: brought to you by friends and partners at Brightling. You

628
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Speaker 2: just spoke so highly as Saquon Barkley. I can only

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Speaker 2: imagine John Morrow right now seeing this guy eclipse the

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Speaker 2: two thousand yard Club and probably just kicking himself. And again,

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Speaker 2: I am they're gonna see it firsthand. Next week, the

632
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Speaker 2: Giants are gonna be seeing their mistakes in the flesh.

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Speaker 2: Shout out again to Saquon Barkley. The La Rams beat

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals on Saturday Night. Rams are hot right now,

635
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Speaker 2: and Pooka a cool I mean, my goodness, we've seen

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup pretty much avapp rate over the last three

637
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Speaker 2: weeks here, and it's Pooka the.

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Speaker 1: Coolest time to shine.

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00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: This guy gets targeted early and often and throughout this game,

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00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: and whether they're they got a run game going or not,

641
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: it seems like they just their safety net and this

642
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: offensive identity is really run all.

643
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: Through Pooka Nakua.

644
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: But you look at them as a matchup across the

645
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: NFC landscape in the in the playoffs, they can truly

646
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: contend with anyone that's in front of them. I truly

647
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: believe in the La Rams if they can keep this pace.

648
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Do you have that same belief in the Rams? Do

649
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: you think they are true Super Bowl contenders?

650
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know because they've been so

651
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: inconsistent defensively. But one thing I will say, And the

652
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: guy who made the game saving, game ceiling play for them,

653
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Ikello Witherspoon, my guy. I'm so happy for him. I

654
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: am so happy for Akela because he deserves this moment.

655
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: A guy who's been through the ups and downs of

656
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League. He's been he's been the heel

657
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: of jokes. He's been you know, he's been blamed for things,

658
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: and he has been playing stellar this football season for

659
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: the Rams. He's stepped up in a big way. They

660
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: didn't have him in training camp, they didn't sign him

661
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: in a fifty three. They sign him in September, and

662
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: now he's got a starting role. He's played it, played

663
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: a big time game last week, only gave up three

664
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: catches in the game playing against Marvin Harrison Junior, and

665
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: made the game ceiling interception in the end zone off

666
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: the tip pass. He deserves everything he's getting. But Matthew

667
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Stafford has always had a puncher's chance He's a guy

668
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to go against. And if they can

669
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: find a way, it looks like they'll likely have the

670
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in the playoffs. If everything holds as is,

671
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: they'll play against the Green Bay Packers at home in

672
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. And you've seen, Hey, can they get pressure?

673
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Can Chris Shula draw up some pressures on Jordan Love

674
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: like the Minnesota Vikings did? Can they Can they do

675
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: it like the Detroit Lions did. I don't know, but

676
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: their front Jared burst and the boys are starting to

677
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: become really disruptive in what they can do. And they

678
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: got young guys playing at a high level. We talked

679
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: about a Kellow, We talked about this D line and

680
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: then poking Nikola offensively, Kyron Williams running the football. Their

681
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: offensive line starting to show some continuity at this point

682
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: in the season. And again, if you got Stafford, he's

683
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: just a dangerous gunslinger. And anytime you got a gunslinger

684
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: out there, you got a chance.

685
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: Let's take it to New York Giants. They put an

686
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: end to the Indianapolis Colts season forty five to thirty

687
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: three win. No one really saw this coming and Giants

688
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: had absolutely nothing to play for. We talked about it

689
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: last week. In fact, they had everything not to play

690
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: for that they wanted that number one overall pick in

691
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: the draft. I'm sure they want cam order Shador Sanders

692
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: with that number one pick. But this was a devastating

693
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: win for this Giants organization if they fall all the

694
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: way to four in the draft order. Now, so you

695
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: gotta look, I mean, are they going to even have

696
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: a chance to one of the top two quarterbacks in

697
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: the draft. It's it's unbelievable. I guess maybe it's a

698
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: little bit of karma, Rich Maybe maybe it's a little

699
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: bit of karma from this managing the Saquon Barkley situation.

700
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: How does this happen for the Colts? So you look

701
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: at a team that's got absolutely everything to play for,

702
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: still a playoff aspirations, and they go on the road

703
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: and they give up a forty five spot to the

704
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: New York Giants.

705
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: How does this even happen? Well, the way it happens,

706
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell is, teams aren't built that way. And obviously, you know,

707
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: I thought, when you know they had a veteran playing

708
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: flat call, that they'd have a chance and scoring thirty

709
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: three points, you would think they had a chance. Their

710
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: defense just didn't show up in a way they needed to.

711
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: Giving up forty five points is unacceptable, and I'm sure

712
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley is telling him that in a critical game

713
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: that you need to have But this is one of

714
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: those games where it just looks like they were sleepwalking

715
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: through it and the Giants battle. You know, they're not quitters,

716
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's what you need. I don't think Dave

717
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Bowl is going anywhere, and his team fought for him.

718
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: I know they probably wanted the number one pick, but again,

719
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: teams don't tank. I know fans are like tank tank

720
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: tank tank, tank tank, but that's just not how these

721
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: guys are built. When they scored the winning touchdown, you

722
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: drew lots scored that touchdown, you didn't see the players like,

723
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: oh man, we don't get the number one pick. They

724
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: were excited. They want to win this game. They want

725
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: to win. It feels better to win than lose. You

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: work too hard to just go out there and lose

727
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: games on purpose. So when people are like NFL's fixed

728
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: or this, and that it's not by the players, it's

729
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: very difficult to fix it. As a player. After eleven

730
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: guys too many things, too many circumstances, too many things

731
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: on the line for guys. Now if they want the

732
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: rest or something to say something, and I don't know

733
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 1: about that, I don't think that would ever be the case.

734
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: But again, I don't think anybody these guys care. They

735
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: want to win. I don't give dang if they got

736
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: two wins on the season or twenty. And that's what

737
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: you've seen out of the New York Giants. They wanted

738
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: to win this game. And it's weird because you just

739
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: saw Schidors Sanders where the New York Giants cleats in

740
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the bowl game win. And again, don't care, bunch of

741
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: chickens before they hatch, because you'll mess around and be

742
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: in Tennessee before you know it. And now you're looking

743
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: up and you better hope the Tennessee Titans don't feel

744
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: the same way, because you know, those cleats won't age

745
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: well in that situation. They're gonna be about to have

746
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: some difficult conversations in his social media age.

747
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: That would be wild, Richard. Let's take it to Christmas, man.

748
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean, the NFL gave us two gifts with the

749
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: games with the Chiefs and Steelers and Ravens and Texans.

750
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, overall the first game the Kansas City Chiefs,

751
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: they're kind of like we've been, I guess somewhat critical

752
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: of them all season long despite their record. They're sixteen

753
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: and one now, but they've looked more dominant over these

754
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: last two weeks with wins against the Texans and now

755
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: against the Steelers particularly, they look more explosive offensively. You

756
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: can see the difference a guy like Hollywood Brown mates

757
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: with Xavier Worthy out there and the veteran DeAndre Hopkins.

758
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks to me that the Chiefs. Chiefs

759
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: are getting to the point where the Chiefs truly look

760
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: like that same Super Bowl champion that they were were

761
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: last year. I just don't know what's gonna stop them.

762
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: I know the Bills are playing well, I get it.

763
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: I know the Ravens are tough, but like, what is

764
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: truly gonna take to beat this Chiefs team, especially now

765
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: that they got a healthy Hollywood Brown at their disposal

766
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: as well.

767
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Mitchell last year I said, this is a down year

768
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. You want to get him, you better

769
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: get him now. They played down in the playoffs, They battled,

770
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: they didn't play great against Baltimore. Their defense stepped up,

771
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: made plays, found a way to win, found a way

772
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: to go to Buffalo. People said, hey, if they got

773
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: to go to Buffalo, they're definitely not getting out of

774
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: there against Josh Allen is veteran defense. All the positive things,

775
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, and win, the Buffalo got to win, win

776
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, got to win, and they had a good

777
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: time beating San Francisco in overtime in the playoffs in

778
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean, now we're sitting here critical

779
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: of a team that's sixteen and one, sitting there saying, man,

780
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: they don't look good. There are they might not be

781
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: a great team, and they're sixteen and one. I tell you,

782
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: a back to back Super Bowl champion being sixteen and

783
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: one is an incredible feat. I don't care what it

784
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: looks like for all the reasons we talk about why

785
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers have struggled, because you

786
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: get fatigued mentally, physically, emotionally. Even when you win, you're

787
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: like boredom. Boredom kicks in and you're like, hey, we've

788
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: done this. Died at a riga moreau, I'm died at

789
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: a repetitiveness of this process, and Andy Reid has found

790
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: a way to keep it fun. I mean, you looked

791
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: at the Christmas game. He comes in there with a

792
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Santa Claus outfit on all the jokes you think, oh man,

793
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: we're all making. He's making on himself, and the team

794
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: is loving it. You see their two best players, two

795
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: of their best players, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey coming

796
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: in there with the robes on, hyping their team up,

797
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: and you see how excited they are for each other's success.

798
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: That's the way they've been able to keep this thing going.

799
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: They kept it fun, they've kept it new, they've kept

800
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: it energetic. And I don't know how to say this,

801
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: but like it seems like throughout the season they've just

802
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: been experimenting. They've just been trying stuff. Like you you

803
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: lose Isaiah Pacheco and you say, hey, we used to

804
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: have a guy. We used to have a guy, didn't we? Uh?

805
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: The running back? You know, he got in a little

806
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: bit of Troy, he got in that thing and cream Hunt.

807
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Let's go get him. Let's go get where is he?

808
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, just get get him, get him. We'll

809
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: figure it out. And then you're like, hey, there's there's

810
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: some good receivers out there. I mean, they're not doing much.

811
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: What is what is what is Nuke Hopkins doing? Is

812
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: he Is he still a Tennessee or let's see if

813
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: he's available, We'll we'll get him. I mean, I know

814
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: we lost our best, we lost our guy, but let's

815
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: bring him in and we got worthy. We'll we'll bring

816
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: him along at his own pace. And it doesn't matter

817
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: who they have. They got my guy Jay Watt out there.

818
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Justin Watson scoring touchdowns, getting open, making big plays. Again,

819
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: it does not matter as long as you have Patrick

820
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes in this offensive scheme that Andy Reid and then spags.

821
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: Let's get to the other side of the bass bags.

822
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: You don't have Chris Jones last game, but they got

823
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: four or five sacks, doesn't matter. Carl loftis get there,

824
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Nick Bowden having a great season, Justin Reid battling having

825
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: a great season. We talked about Trent McDuffie all the time,

826
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: and it's just a lot of guys that they have

827
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: that they continue to develop well. The great teams continue

828
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: to develop through the draft, through trades, through moves that

829
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: make sense. They didn't give an arm in the leg

830
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: for new Hopkins. They didn't. They got Xavier Worthy right

831
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: where they were supposed to get him Kareem Hunt, and

832
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: they got him off the streets and he came in

833
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: and make an immediate impact, and big games came and

834
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: they didn't lose a step at all. Isaiah Pacheco, you know,

835
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: and you talk about their offensive line, they've had trouble

836
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: and I've spoke to it, their tackles. So they moved

837
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Toney to the outside, bring Collendo in at left guard,

838
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: and the show continues. The show goes on, and that's

839
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. They continue to make the right adjustment,

840
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: the right moves, and the oh keeps going on. Sixteen

841
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: and one might end up sixteen and two because they

842
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: don't want it at the end. They If they're seventeen

843
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: and one and they put Joe Burrow in the playoffs,

844
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: that's gonna be history that I'd like to write.

845
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: The other side of the ball was the Pittsburgh Steelers,

846
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: and they were I guess the AFC Darling, you know,

847
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: he saw Russell Wilson come in and lead this offense

848
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: and scoring forty plus against the Bengals, thirty plus numerous times,

849
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: but these last three games they've hit a little bit

850
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: of a road bump. I mean, they've played true playoff

851
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: teams and they came out on the losing side of

852
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: each matchup. You know, this one was probably the worst

853
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: for him. But with losses to the Eagles, the Ravens

854
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs in the last three weeks, like are

855
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: they are they a playoff one and done in your eyes?

856
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: Or do the Steelers have any life left in them?

857
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: They're falling back to reality, you know. And you talk

858
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: about Mike Tomlin and credible job he's done, but then

859
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: you lose three straight and and could be four straighted

860
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals played with the sense of urgency and that

861
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: they've been playing with over the last couple of weeks.

862
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: And offensively, Joe Burrow continues to throw the ball around

863
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: the yard and Jamar Chase continues to have an all

864
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: pro season like he is uh and their defense makes

865
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: enough plays they could be four straight heading into the playoffs.

866
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: To be hard for us to not say that they're

867
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: likely a one and done team, but they're likely running

868
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens and it's the division game, and

869
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: again we again you throw the records and out all

870
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: that out of the window. When it's a division game,

871
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: even in the playoffs, it'll be a dogfight. But if

872
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson plays like he has been playing, and they

873
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: let Derrick Henry run the football, it'll be it'll be

874
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: a store at Cinderella Story where where she didn't get

875
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: the glass slipper put back on her foot. You know,

876
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: she went back to the step stepsisters and stepmother's house

877
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: and and Prince Charmon didn't come get her. Because this

878
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: story is over with, but it's still the great season,

879
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: and and they're gonna have to make a decision about

880
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in the offseason. It looks like they'll likely

881
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: extend him or renew his contract, or figure out a

882
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: way to make that relationship continue at least for another

883
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: year or two. But you look at after these three

884
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: losses in eleven days, and the Pittsburgh Steelers fans, at

885
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: least on some of these social media sites are singing

886
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: a different tune. You know. Some of them are claiming

887
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: they want to see justin fields in the playoffs. They

888
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: want to see a change up, And I don't think

889
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: that's the right decision. You know, with the way Russell's played,

890
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I think this is a bit of a stumble by

891
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: the entire team. You see Camp Hayward and things that

892
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: he said, eight ten guys doing their job and one

893
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: guy's not. You can't win like that. And I don't

894
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: think he's talking about the offensive side of the ball.

895
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I think he's talking about the defense. I don't know

896
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: who the one guy he is, but that's what they're saying.

897
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: And so you know, clearly there are some things they

898
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: need to get cleaned up defensively, but offensively, you got

899
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: to score more than ten points. And I know the

900
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs have a great defense and a lot of playmakers,

901
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: but they're missing their best defensive player and you can't

902
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: get it done against them. That's an issue. So those

903
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: are some of the concerns the Ravens go on and

904
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: route the Houston Texans CJ. Stroud struggles in year two continue,

905
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: they continue to mount and and this is with Nico

906
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Collins back, and I don't really know how to explain

907
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: it to Baltimore. Ravens defense has just taken a great

908
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: turn or deserves a lot of credit for whatever adjustments

909
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: he's made, because they look totally different yeah, they look

910
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: like a different team. They do. I mean Houston Texans.

911
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: This team a lot of people had a ton of

912
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: expectations of them.

913
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, a super Bowl dark horse. CJ.

914
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Stroud after his rookie year, was expected to be, you

915
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: know in that conversation, for one of the best quarterbacks

916
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: in the league in year two, and it hasn't gone

917
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: that way, at least in the second half of the

918
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: season for the Texans. Don't get a twisted They've been

919
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: banged up. Losing Tank Dell and Stefan Diggs certainly hurt

920
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: this team. But you know, to me now at nine

921
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: and seven, I don't know how much fear they stoke

922
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: in their opponents. But the Ravens to go on the

923
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: road and win thirty one to two on Christmas Day

924
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: is just remarkable. And like you said, this defense is

925
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: picking it up the AFC's top three. It's gonna be

926
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: an absolute battle in this playoffs. How much belief do

927
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: you have in this Baltimore Ravens team.

928
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: I got a tremendous amount of belief. And my belief

929
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: is that they won't make the same mistake they made

930
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: last year, and if they go out, they'll go out

931
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: on the sword that came in on, or the horse

932
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: they came in on my mistake, and that's running the football.

933
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: And that's the Lamar Jackson included. You see these games

934
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: where his mom's getting on him, and he goes into

935
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: the press conference and say, my mom got on me

936
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: for not running the football. I guarantee you this is

937
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the season and he cannot go out like that. If

938
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: he goes out and they lose the game and he

939
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: has one hundred and fifty yards rushing and one hundred

940
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: and fifty yards basket, I think people will be like, Okay,

941
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: all right, you lost al you you came in. But

942
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: if he throws for twenty yards and rushes for twenty

943
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: five yards and Derek Henry rushes for eighty five yards

944
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: and they lose that game, We're going to be questioning, Hey,

945
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: why aren't you moving the way you wanted to move?

946
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: Why aren't you doing everything possible to William team to victory.

947
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: People don't care how the art looks. They don't care

948
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: how pretty it looks. They don't care if it looks

949
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: quarterback he or whatever the case may be. They care

950
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: if you win the football game. So if you want

951
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: to run for two hundred and throw for fifty yards.

952
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: If you win that game, then people will applaud that.

953
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: And I think that's what he understands more than anything,

954
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: and John Harborough understands he can't stop running the football

955
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: in general. You know, I think Derrick Henry and every

956
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: playoff game they have will have over twenty carries in

957
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: order to give them a chance to say, hey, at

958
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we knew what it takes

959
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: to win these ball games, and we're going to go

960
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: in that way. And if they lose it not running

961
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: the ball like they should be, then you shame on them.

962
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: And I think it's going to be a dogfight, though

963
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: I look forward to that game if it comes to it,

964
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: between Baltimore and in Buffalo, in Buffalo in the snow,

965
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: at home, in front of those Rockets fans. I think

966
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: that'll be a great game and I think that's must

967
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: see TV. The Kansas City Chiefs will we'll play whoever's left.

968
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, don't. I don't know how that'll

969
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: shake out on the other side, but I think I

970
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: think that Buffalo Baltimore game could be one for the ages.

971
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Rich A little off topic, but you know, teams are

972
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: starting to make decisions on head coaches, and we're starting

973
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: to see a landscape of teams that are gonna need

974
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: a coach in this offseason. And one perspective coach that

975
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: threw his hat back in the ring as your former

976
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: head coach, Pete Carroll. He's come out and expressed, I

977
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: guess interest in the Bears job. Do you think it's

978
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: realistic that Pete comes back one and do you think

979
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: that's a good fit.

980
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: With the Bears and Pete Carroll? I think I think

981
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: somebody I can't remember who tweeted it, but they said

982
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: people need to be more focused on culture builders instead

983
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: of quarterback builders. And I think that's a really important distinction,

984
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: because there are quarterback coaches that can help built your

985
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: coach quarterback up and help him be more effective, more efficient,

986
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff, but the rest of your

987
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: team struggles and you got a good quarterback without the

988
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: rest of your team developed. What made Jim Harpball special

989
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: was developing the entire culture of the organization. And from

990
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: the outside end, you can see what he did at

991
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: at Stanford, you can see what he did at Michigan,

992
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: you can see what he did at San Francisco forty

993
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: nine ers. You can see what he did at UC

994
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: San Diego, and it's hiring great coaches, enforcing the fundamentals,

995
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: enforcing the rules and structure of the organization that you desire,

996
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: Understanding your players, understanding your staff and relating to them,

997
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: speaking to them, understanding them, listening. And Pete Carroll does

998
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: all those things. He's going to maximize the abilities of

999
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: his players, both defensively and offensively. He's gonna get guys

1000
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: that fit the scheme that he desires to play. He's

1001
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna get coaches around that are really great at their jobs,

1002
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: that coach the way that he would like to see them.

1003
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: Coaches you coach. You've seen that he's had success in

1004
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: history around the league, guys leaving the Seattle Seahawks and

1005
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: going to be coordinators ahead coaches elsewhere. And although they

1006
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: may have been set up the best way, dan Quinn

1007
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: left the Seattle Seahawks and went to the Super Bowl

1008
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: the first years as a head coach. How many guys

1009
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: can say they've done that. But he deserves a chance

1010
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: to at least build the culture and show that, hey,

1011
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: it can be done this way. Still, and I think

1012
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, a lot of organizations and a

1013
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: lot of coaches have taken notes from what he's done

1014
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: and what he did with Tar Seattle Seahawks teams and

1015
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: the way he built us and the way that we

1016
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: were talked about and the way we talked about him,

1017
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: and the nuances of the inside the building activities that

1018
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: allow them to continue to be successful. And that's playing

1019
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: music in the locker room, playing music on the field,

1020
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: allowing there to be looseness before meetings, playing fun videos,

1021
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Just the little things that go

1022
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: into making the mundane things a little bit more fun,

1023
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: a little bit more exciting, a little bit more eventful.

1024
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: And I think that if he gets a chance, he'll

1025
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: he'll do great with Kayleb Williams, He'll run the football well,

1026
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: have a great coach to help him develop further in

1027
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: his skill set, allow that defense who's really jaloused to

1028
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: continue to thrive and flourish in what they do well.

1029
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, one of the best corners in the National

1030
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Football League, to continue to flourish in his job and

1031
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: his responsibility. And I think although it may not be

1032
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: the trendy pick, it's the pick that will likely get

1033
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: them further than they have been.

1034
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: As we conclude this Sunday night, we've got another game

1035
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: on Monday night. We already alluded to it earlier, the

1036
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: LA I'm sorry, the San Francisco forty nine Ers take

1037
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: on my hometown Detroit Lions. Here's the deal with Detroit.

1038
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, with Minnesota winning this game today against the Packers,

1039
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night's game is relatively meaningless, you know, So my

1040
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: question starts with you with number one. If you're Dan Campbell,

1041
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: how do you treat this situation? Do you rest your

1042
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: starters and gear them up for Minnesota, because really that's

1043
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: all that matters. They need to beat Minnesota in the

1044
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: final week of the season in order to secure the

1045
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: one seed, regardless of the outcome of tomorrow night's game.

1046
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: So how do you handle this one, Dan Campbell? Do

1047
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: you expect to see if the full full starters out

1048
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: there for the full game?

1049
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't expect anything other than what Dan Campbell said

1050
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring. He said he's gonna empty the clip.

1051
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: He says he's bringing everything they got and they putting

1052
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: it out there. They're not holding anything back. They don't

1053
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: care about the results of any other game. They have

1054
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: this one circled on their schedule since the game last

1055
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: year NFC Championship when they lost, so then the schedule

1056
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: was announced. So I expect them to come out there

1057
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: and give their all and bring their best to the fight.

1058
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: I think the San Francisco forty nine ers are gonna

1059
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: have a few tricks up their sleeve and they're going

1060
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: to play a very loose game and try to try

1061
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: to give Detroit all they can handle. But if Detroit

1062
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: continues to play as they have been, it'll it'll be

1063
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: a game where they can pull out a very comfortable win.

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Speaker 1: But again, this is a very talented San Francisco, very

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Speaker 1: prideful San Francisco forty nine Ers team, so I would

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Speaker 1: not be surprised if they put up a fight and

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Speaker 1: this ended up a one possession game late to the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and then you got to got to stress

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Speaker 1: about Then you wonder if Dan Campbell's going to do

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Speaker 1: everything he can to win this game put his guys

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Speaker 1: at harm's way. I don't know, but I think winning

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Speaker 1: is winning, and I think he's gonna want to win

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Speaker 1: this football game to give his guys the best chance

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Speaker 1: moving forward. And to make sure that they're ready for

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Speaker 1: that Minnesota Vikings game. The only way you get through

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Speaker 1: this season is keep sharpening iron iron sharpen's iron. You

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Speaker 1: can't sit there and rest your guys and think they're

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Speaker 1: going to be ready next week unnecessarily rest of them.

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Speaker 1: That just doesn't make sense. That's not how football works.

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Speaker 2: Well, Richard, we are almost at the conclusion of the

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Speaker 2: season and things are going to heat up continuing tonight

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Speaker 2: and tomorrow. Richard, I will allow you to sign us off,

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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you guys for joining us on the Richard

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Speaker 1: Sherman Podcast. I hope you guys had a happy holiday

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Speaker 1: scenes and I hope you guys have a beautiful New

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Speaker 1: Year's Day. Give yourself some goals, work to them. At

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Speaker 1: least make them last more than two weeks. Everybody understands

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Speaker 1: quick day in January is January fourteenth, two weeks into

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Speaker 1: the year. Do not let that be the day where

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Speaker 1: you give up on your goals or the things that

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Speaker 1: you set out to do. At least let them last

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Speaker 1: two three months. Keep pushing through. Everybody, love and respect.

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