WEBVTT - Eric Hartman Fever and 2026 MLB Draft Preview With Carlos Collazo

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a special edition of the show. I'm joining right now

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<v Speaker 1>by Scott Coleman. Scott, we have a guest coming in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. How are you hello, Brad? We do have

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<v Speaker 1>a very special guest, Carlos Colazzo, a national correspondent for

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball America in my eyes, like the leading authority on

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<v Speaker 1>MLB draft coverage. And of course this is a massive

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<v Speaker 1>draft on the horizon for the Atlanta Braves. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways it could be like a franchise altering draft.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the number nine pick, where they are picking

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten for the first time in many years.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have the twenty sixth overall pick because of

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<v Speaker 1>Drake Bald and winning Rookie of the Year. Very important

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<v Speaker 1>draft on the horizon and very happy to have Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>on the show to talk about it all. Absolutely so

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<v Speaker 1>we are running this the week of the draft. It

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<v Speaker 1>was recorded a couple of days ago. Nothing has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>A m will be draft World. Just want to give

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<v Speaker 1>that PSA out there. And the draft is this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't know that already, now you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's draft week. The draft is this Saturday, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>all about it with someone who's actually qualified to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's not us, So stay tuned. We'll dive

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<v Speaker 1>in right now with us and Carlos Colaso on all

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<v Speaker 1>things Braves and m'll be draft.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're now joined by good friend, and I mean really

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<v Speaker 1>good friend. I said that all the time, really good

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<v Speaker 1>front of the program, Carlos Colaso a Baseball America.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, man? How are you? Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>I am good, glad to be here. As always, it's

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<v Speaker 4>fun to do the annual Hammer Territory adventure. So what's up, Brad?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? Scott? Thanks for having me back.

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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while we'll get a question about

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, and as we always say, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the draft really, and I always know in

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<v Speaker 1>my back pocket, I'm like, I do have someone we

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<v Speaker 1>can call that will probably take my call based on

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<v Speaker 1>our history, and his name is CARLS. Colosso, so thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>sir for doing this. We're thought mostly drafts on this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we're talking about this sports started recording, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask you about Eric Cartman. Hey, Eric Cartman,

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<v Speaker 1>is like the mania has taken hold nationally, especially locally,

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<v Speaker 1>and this might be the only guy we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>for much. This is in the system already, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the buzz beyond our walls? Obviously he's become a

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<v Speaker 1>big time prospect everywhere, but like, you're a national guy,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your thought on Eric Cartman right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very torn on Eric Cartman, because part of me

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<v Speaker 4>is very excited because when I did the Prospect Handbook

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<v Speaker 4>chapter last off season, I tabbed Eric Cartman as a

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<v Speaker 4>breakout prospect. But at the same stage I ranked Eric

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<v Speaker 4>Cartman in the twenties on the Braves List, which looks

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<v Speaker 4>egregious and horrible right now, because we recently updated our

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<v Speaker 4>top thirties, we recently updated our top hundred. He is

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<v Speaker 4>a top twenty five prospect in baseball. He is the

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<v Speaker 4>number one prospect in the CISM. So I can kind

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<v Speaker 4>of lie to myself and say, oh, I had him

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<v Speaker 4>as a breakout, But truthfully, I never expected this sort

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<v Speaker 4>of season from Eric Cartman. The tools that he has shown,

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<v Speaker 4>in addition to the pure hitting ability he has shown,

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<v Speaker 4>is exceptional. I mean, there were some traits he showed

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<v Speaker 4>a year ago that I was like oh there, these

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<v Speaker 4>are kind of interesting. Maybe with some continued polish, you

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<v Speaker 4>can get to like a low average in game power,

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<v Speaker 4>which would be good for a center fielder with his speed.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like he's on pace for a forty sixty

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<v Speaker 4>season in seventy one games. It's it's utterly insane. He's

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<v Speaker 4>been one of the most impressive players in all of

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<v Speaker 4>minor league baseball. He's still twenty years old. The guys

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<v Speaker 4>that I've talked to on our staff who are more

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<v Speaker 4>focused on the prospect side of the game at this

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<v Speaker 4>point in the calendar, are talking about just like how

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<v Speaker 4>scouts are drooling over him, and like the continued development

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<v Speaker 4>and potential you could see with a player like him

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<v Speaker 4>who really doesn't have the same sort of background in

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<v Speaker 4>reps in baseball. It's just been insane to see. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think for Brave fans, they've got to be thrilled

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<v Speaker 4>about what he's done. I don't know if they are

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<v Speaker 4>in the camp of like, oh, this player is the future,

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<v Speaker 4>or hey, we can really trade him for an impact

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<v Speaker 4>player now. Because he has only played at HIA, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know exactly what his ETA timeline is going to be,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's certainly not a bad thing when you're getting

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<v Speaker 4>a performance like this from your farm And I also

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<v Speaker 4>feel like he's one of a number of offensive players

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<v Speaker 4>in the system who are really doing well, which is

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<v Speaker 4>great news for the Braves because for years and years

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<v Speaker 4>now it's been such a picture heavy system. And I

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<v Speaker 4>say that, but you have guys like Drake Baldwin and

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Harris, but I guess Michael Harris has been up

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<v Speaker 4>for a while now, so no, just really really cool

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<v Speaker 4>story and one of the best in the miners right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Carlos, we were fortunate enough to have you

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<v Speaker 5>on the show I don't know, eight months or so ago,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think you know, objectively, the farm system was

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<v Speaker 5>not in a great place. I think it was fair

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<v Speaker 5>to say that maybe a little better than what it

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<v Speaker 5>was in like twenty twenty four, So it was just

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<v Speaker 5>completely void of real talent outside of one or two guys.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, the farm system as a whole as healthy,

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<v Speaker 5>and obviously, I mean that has layers to it because

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<v Speaker 5>not only does it help the big league team, but

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<v Speaker 5>as the trade deadline approaches, I think you can say

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<v Speaker 5>with a straight face that if the Braves want to

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<v Speaker 5>go out and make a real trade of substance for

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<v Speaker 5>like an impact. Let's go all in or at least

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<v Speaker 5>really try to give ourselves a chance. You have Eric Hartman,

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<v Speaker 5>you have Cam Kimminetti who was just named to the

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<v Speaker 5>Futures Game. Tate South, the scene, who was the first

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<v Speaker 5>round pick a year ago, has really come on after

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty disappointing kind of mini debut as a professional.

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<v Speaker 5>So it just you know, I think, I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 5>the expert at Baseball America. I think BA does the

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<v Speaker 5>best job of anybody covering the farm systems in the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>But it feels like this is the healthiest the Braves

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<v Speaker 5>farm system has been in I mean years at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it does feel like it. I think having a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of young headliners offensively is good. They always seem

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<v Speaker 4>to have pictures and consider duration. Cam Kemminiddie, we've had

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<v Speaker 4>in the top one hundred for a while now. Jed

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<v Speaker 4>Richie got in that top one hundred range for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time, I believe at the start of our preseason

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<v Speaker 4>list this year. I'm so pretty excited about him. The

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<v Speaker 4>improvements that we've seen from Tate South Asceene and his

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<v Speaker 4>approach this year. It almost makes me feel like his

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<v Speaker 4>debut was just a blip because pre draft we expected

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<v Speaker 4>Tate south Assen to be a much more polished offensive

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<v Speaker 4>player than he showed in his debut, And it really

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<v Speaker 4>does just make me wonder, Okay, do we just have

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<v Speaker 4>a terrible entry point for young high school players in

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<v Speaker 4>minor league baseball these days? Like there's no real appropriate

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<v Speaker 4>level for them to play in official games. If you

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<v Speaker 4>want to get them in official games, it does seem

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<v Speaker 4>like it's probably too advanced for them, especially after coming

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<v Speaker 4>off a full spring season. Tate south Asen absolutely looked

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<v Speaker 4>over match. I don't think it's hyperbole to say he

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the most disappointing players of any player

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<v Speaker 4>in that draft class. For how bad the approach was.

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<v Speaker 4>The one kind of glimmer of hope for him was

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<v Speaker 4>that he was hitting the ball exceptionally hard when he

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<v Speaker 4>did make contact, and now the swing to sessions are

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<v Speaker 4>far better. He's getting the ball in the air a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more frequently. I'm still not entirely sure where he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to play defensively, but the fact that he has

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to play a handful about the middle premium

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<v Speaker 4>positions is really exciting for him as well. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>great to see that pick already aging really well. And

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<v Speaker 4>the Braves have just shown a knack for hitting on

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<v Speaker 4>value late in the draft, and getting Hartman in the

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<v Speaker 4>twentieth round is kind of egregious for everyone the other

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<v Speaker 4>team in the industry at this stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also it's also like maybe a reminder not

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<v Speaker 1>to overreact, especially a high school kid coming up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I don't know much about this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my prior is to hey, like, let's not overreact

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<v Speaker 1>to a handful of games for an eighteen year old,

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<v Speaker 1>even if as bad as he looked, Like I I

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<v Speaker 1>heard the same things the limit time that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't look good. But it's like, hey, that was

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<v Speaker 1>six it was six eight months ago, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a totally different world for Salvastine and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>one player.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that reasonable?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how do you approach like the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>see a guy after the draft, especially when they're eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think what was tricky about Tate was it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't just like it was kind of disappointing, Like the

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<v Speaker 4>approach was just horrendous. In Yeah, fifteen games, sixty six

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's not that much time. But he also

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<v Speaker 4>cleared like what I think of as the stabilization rate

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<v Speaker 4>for strikeout rate in particular, and that was the number

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<v Speaker 4>that really concerned me. I think I'm quicker to react

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<v Speaker 4>to strikeout rate and contact rate noise for players, but

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<v Speaker 4>for me, it's served as a very good reminder of, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when players are entering pro ball for the first time,

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<v Speaker 4>with our understanding of where the minor league system is now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it is probably a good idea to kind of pump

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<v Speaker 4>the brakes, be cautious, let them get acclimated, let them

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<v Speaker 4>get some more time under their belt, let them start

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<v Speaker 4>the season fresh, and then see what you've got. It's

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<v Speaker 4>always tricky, and we do this with our n season updates,

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<v Speaker 4>both on the draft side and on the pro side.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to be reactive to new information and to

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<v Speaker 4>things that have changed with players. But if the more

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<v Speaker 4>you iterate on a list, I think the more you

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<v Speaker 4>open yourself up to react too much. And so kind

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<v Speaker 4>of striking that balance and trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 4>the best lane to take is I think a persistent

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<v Speaker 4>question mark and one we're kind of always grappling with.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's tough, but I mean he has what seventy

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<v Speaker 4>one games now of really impressive performance, So it's nice

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<v Speaker 4>to see.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, we'll take

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<v Speaker 5>the wins. You know, you use a first round pick,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, there's so much nuance to a draft,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's you know, he's eighteen years old playing pro

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<v Speaker 5>ball and he was facing high schoolers three months before.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's obviously a giant leap and just everything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you're on your own for the first time,

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<v Speaker 5>you're in a new city, sometimes you travel all the

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<v Speaker 5>way across the country. It's very, very different, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>beyond just trying to hit a baseball, which in and

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<v Speaker 5>of itself is is plenty difficult to do. Carlo is

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<v Speaker 5>the last prospect I wanted to ask you about. Is

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<v Speaker 5>the bravest first round pick two years ago, Kim Keminetti.

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<v Speaker 5>We mentioned he was the team's lone futures game representative.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, two years in you mentioned just before we

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<v Speaker 5>started recording that you like Cam and Eddy and the

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<v Speaker 5>progress that he's made. But kind of where does Cam

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<v Speaker 5>Kemedy sit two years after being the club's first round pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm still pretty excited about what he could provide

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<v Speaker 4>to a starting rotation. I think there is a really

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<v Speaker 4>electric fastball in the tank for him from the left side.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what we've seen from him throughout his basically

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<v Speaker 4>two plus years now in pro bawl. I guess, not

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<v Speaker 4>two full years, but what does he have like one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty ish innings total at this stage. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been my concerns with him, I guess coming into pro ball,

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<v Speaker 4>where what's going to be the development of his breaking

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<v Speaker 4>ball and what's the control going to look like? And

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<v Speaker 4>I think, especially after the full season a year ago,

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<v Speaker 4>what he did from a strikeout and walk perspective was

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<v Speaker 4>really exciting to me. I was very happy to put

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<v Speaker 4>him onto our top one hundred as soon as we

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<v Speaker 4>possibly could. I don't think my perspective of him has

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<v Speaker 4>changed too dramatically at this stage. He's still very young.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazy to think of him still being just nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>years old. I don't know if he's turned twenty yet

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<v Speaker 4>as of this recording, but he did stand out as

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<v Speaker 4>like one of the younger players in the class. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I look down and just see the agent what

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<v Speaker 4>he's done so far ready getting to Hya I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a really appealing combination of athleticism, arm talent,

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<v Speaker 4>a change up that I really like, and better strikes

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<v Speaker 4>than I was expecting at this stage in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>Although I guess you could say that's still an area

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<v Speaker 4>where you're gonna want to see a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>sharpness and Christmas crispness from him moving forward. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think if he developed into a made rotation arm, that

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't shock me at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds pretty good to me.

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<v Speaker 4>You will have to uh, you will have to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with me on the draft this year again. Yes, first

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<v Speaker 4>four rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>First four rounds. You have a lot better hair than

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<v Speaker 1>either the people on the other than yourself. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the appeal here. But look it's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the first time in a while, the breaks

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<v Speaker 1>up a top ten pick. They have the number nine pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they didn't want to have an m y pick

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<v Speaker 1>because that means they were bad last year, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were and that's what happened. Look, without happened to get

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<v Speaker 1>crazy into intel, Like there's the intel side in scouting side.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard anything on the intel side yet that

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<v Speaker 1>points you in any specific directions around the braves? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little bit it's a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe I'm crazy. You can tell me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But higher you go, maybe a little bit easier to

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<v Speaker 1>like narrow things down a bit on that first pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that is typically how it works, although this year

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<v Speaker 4>we feel like there is a group of six players

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<v Speaker 4>who are the clear top players in the class, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it is difficult to envision scenarios where all those

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<v Speaker 4>six players aren't off the board inside the first six seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you get to eight picks, it feels really unlikely

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<v Speaker 4>for those players to be off the board. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you're the Braves, you maybe don't like that because after

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<v Speaker 4>that range, I think this class is maybe more muddled

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<v Speaker 4>and difficult to separate and full of players that the

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<v Speaker 4>industry has been incredibly split camp on, Like, there are

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<v Speaker 4>players who should be available for the Braves, college hitters

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<v Speaker 4>in particular, who I talk with some teams and are like,

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<v Speaker 4>this guy is a no doubt top ten prospect, and

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<v Speaker 4>other teams say we wouldn't take this player in the

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<v Speaker 4>first round. And so depending on your scouting philosophy, your

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<v Speaker 4>preference on tools and athleticism versus performance or contact ability,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there is an incredibly wide range of opinions

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<v Speaker 4>on the players that Braves are likely to be picking

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<v Speaker 4>from now. If they get one of these players in

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<v Speaker 4>the top six range to fall to them at nine,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's probably a win, regardless of the player

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<v Speaker 4>who that is. I wouldn't bet on it now. And

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<v Speaker 4>for the first pick for the Braves in particular, we

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<v Speaker 4>hear a lot of college hitters and they are one

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<v Speaker 4>of the landing spots that seem most likely for the

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<v Speaker 4>first high school pitcher off the board, in left hander

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<v Speaker 4>Jioe Rojas. Whether or not that's because the Braves historically

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<v Speaker 4>have just loved taking high school pitchers. Alex Anthopolis seems

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<v Speaker 4>really just geared towards getting as much pitching as he can.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm uncertain, but I know that they have spent time

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<v Speaker 4>on Jioe Rojas. I know there is a collection of

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<v Speaker 4>college hitters that make a lot of sense for the

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<v Speaker 4>Braves at nine. And I'm unsure if last year's draft

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<v Speaker 4>of them taking three straight shortstops, is that an indication

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<v Speaker 4>that they are flipping into a more hitter centric draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that just an indication that a year ago the

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<v Speaker 4>best players on their board were hitters and that's just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of how it fell. We'll get a better understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of that on Saturday, hopefully, But those are kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the names that I'm hearing right now, or the profiles

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<v Speaker 4>I should say, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, in terms of you know, this is a unique

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<v Speaker 5>draft for the Braves just because they have not had

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<v Speaker 5>a top ten pick in a long time. So not

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<v Speaker 5>only do they have the ninth pick, but they also

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<v Speaker 5>have the twenty sixth pick and all of the money

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<v Speaker 5>that comes with those two top selections. You know, Historically

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<v Speaker 5>it's been kind of a mixed bag, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of whether the Braves go for best player

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<v Speaker 5>available or if they go for cutting a deal with

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<v Speaker 5>a player who maybe isn't as high up on the

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<v Speaker 5>consensus board. But of course there's ways to manipulate a

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<v Speaker 5>draft pool, Carlos, Which is kind of your read on

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<v Speaker 5>the Braves, who generally have not picked this high in

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<v Speaker 5>about a decade. You know, do you think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>go best player available? Do you think they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>try to cut a deal and really make the most

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<v Speaker 5>of it. I mean, of course, this is probably something

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<v Speaker 5>that changes by the hour, depending on who the Braves

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<v Speaker 5>feel like they're going to be able to draft. But

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of your read on the Brave strategy in

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<v Speaker 5>the next ten days or so to the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think most teams will tell you that they're

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<v Speaker 4>drafting best player available, even if maybe that's not true

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<v Speaker 4>in some sense. Yeah, they're not going to draft a

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<v Speaker 4>guy and tell you that he wasn't the best player

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<v Speaker 4>available on their board. But the Braves have been a

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<v Speaker 4>team who are very willing to take players on underslot

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<v Speaker 4>deals with their first pick and then push that savings

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<v Speaker 4>to players with the next few picks. I think in

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<v Speaker 4>the last four or five drafts they've done that every

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<v Speaker 4>single year, actually, and they could be in a position

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<v Speaker 4>where that strategy makes a lot of sense. I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking about this with an Orioles podcaster. Or they're picking

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<v Speaker 4>number seven, and I think they're in a similar range

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<v Speaker 4>of talent. Both those teams are tied to a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the same players. If you're in a situation where

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<v Speaker 4>you have six college hitters who your scouting department is

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<v Speaker 4>torn on, you viewed no real separation, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>creates a situation where there could be a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>value in saying, hey, we don't feel confident that we

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<v Speaker 4>can separate the talent here. We like all these players

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<v Speaker 4>in a similar range. Let's get the best deal we

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<v Speaker 4>can here and then add some value later on. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>the Braves have done a great job of this in

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<v Speaker 4>the past. Them signing Briggs Mackenzie a few years or

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<v Speaker 4>last year in the third or fourth round. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he got the biggest bonus in their entire draft class

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<v Speaker 4>that could easily happen this year. I think the talent

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<v Speaker 4>of this year's class is extremely deep with high school pitching.

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<v Speaker 4>So even if they don't take a high school pitcher

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<v Speaker 4>ninth overall, I think there are a number of appealing

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<v Speaker 4>options that will be available for them at twenty six

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<v Speaker 4>with their second pick in the first round. What's interesting

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<v Speaker 4>to me is the last time the Braves picked inside

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<v Speaker 4>the top ten range. I believe it was the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen draft. They took Shae lang Elier's ninth overall. Then

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<v Speaker 4>they took Brandon Shoemake, so they went college heavy in

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<v Speaker 4>that draft. I actually think there's a college catcher this year.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes a lot of sense for them and Ryder Helfrick.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't heard his name super tied to them right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but given how the Braves have been able to identify

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<v Speaker 4>and develop catchers that could be an interesting name. There

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<v Speaker 4>are guys like Drew Burriss Out or Georgia Tech, who's

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<v Speaker 4>the local product of the Braves that interest in out

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<v Speaker 4>of high school. I know he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>popular name, one of the most productive players in college baseball,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think there are a lot of avenues to

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<v Speaker 4>value for the Braves here. And we've also talked to

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of teams who say, hey, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>draft where we would rather be picking a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>later and have multiple picks because there is just no

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<v Speaker 4>separation after that top six. So if you view the

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<v Speaker 4>draft in that lens, you could even say the Braves

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<v Speaker 4>are pretty well equipped to tackle the strength of this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is that creativity aspect that we I think

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<v Speaker 1>you and I talk about every every year when you

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<v Speaker 1>come on about you know, it's just different than football

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<v Speaker 1>and basketball. It just is there's more of that moving

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<v Speaker 1>money around and being strategic, and the Braves having these

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<v Speaker 1>two picks in the top thirty can get a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Of creativity if you if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>You nutioned a couple guys we were going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about, one being Geo Rojas, who I think was

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<v Speaker 1>in a recent mock of yours as the Braves pick,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also Drew Burris. Is I mean unsurprisingly the

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<v Speaker 1>name we get asked about the most local guy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the Braves do. They have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>lots of local history. The Braves do take local pretty often,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of teams do. But you can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about either one of those guys if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there like even beyond that. They're like a

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<v Speaker 1>if it's Carlos making the pick and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen ahead of you. But is there like

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<v Speaker 1>a best case scenario that's realistic. I'm not saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get Rock is they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, what's gonna happen? What's what's the best realistic

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<v Speaker 3>scenario in your mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Giants must still think that they have a

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<v Speaker 4>chance of getting Rock. I don't think that's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 4>even at four. But for me, I mean I would

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<v Speaker 4>be thrilled if Eric with Junior slipped out of that

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 4>top six and got to me. I think he's the

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<v Speaker 4>most exciting player outside of the top three we have,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Rock, Chulawski, Grady Emerson, von Lackey. We expect

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.639
<v Speaker 4>those players to go inside the first three picks in

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<v Speaker 4>some order. If I'm setting aside the top six, who

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<v Speaker 4>we view as as the top players in the class,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's it's a chalk draft. Then I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>this next tier a really college hitters. For me, I

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.919
<v Speaker 4>think Joe Rojas is talented. I would take some of

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<v Speaker 4>these college hitters above him, just because I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that Joe Rojas is in the same tiers like a

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<v Speaker 4>Seth Hernandez from a year ago, where I would have

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<v Speaker 4>taken him with the first overall pick. I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>was that tier of a talented high school player. Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Rojas is very good. I think his talent would be

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<v Speaker 4>warranted here, but there are some bats that I'm personally

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 4>excited about. So if you're asking me who I would

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<v Speaker 4>take in this range, I would be looking at Derrek Curriel,

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<v Speaker 4>who's an outfielder at LSU. He's a draft eligible sophomore.

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<v Speaker 4>He is one of the best peer hitters in this class,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the best peer hitter in the class. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we have him graded out as the highest peer hit

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 4>tool in this class. That is his game. He will

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<v Speaker 4>get some criticism, and I think this comes back to

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 4>the split camp. The split camp kind of bucket of

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 4>these college players. There are going to be scouts who

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<v Speaker 4>love Derek Curiel because of that peer hitting ability, and

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<v Speaker 4>then there are going to be teams in scouts who

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<v Speaker 4>look at him and say, hey, you're a lot smaller

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 4>than we would like for a player in this range.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have this sort of power. You haven't hit

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<v Speaker 4>over ten home runs in college. If you're very down

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 4>on the power, you might not like curryel. But for me,

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 4>I see a player who I think has a chance

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 4>to be a plus hitter. He's going to get on base,

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 4>he's going to play center field. He's also going to

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.959
<v Speaker 4>play that at a high level. He doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 4>typical foot speed of an elite centerfielder, but his defensive

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 4>instincts have been really advanced for a number of years now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think if you look at the history of

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<v Speaker 4>the draft and you look at, like in hindsight, who

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<v Speaker 4>are the players who are going in the middle of

0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 4>the first round, it is like regular, average, steady players.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you get outside of that top three, top five,

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 4>you're not getting a lot of all star players. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Derreck Curriel has all star upside, but

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<v Speaker 4>I am maybe most convicted in him being a regular,

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<v Speaker 4>everyday big leaguer who's going to provide value of any

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 4>player in this class once we get outside of that

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 4>top six range. So I've kind of been the high

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 4>guy in Derreck Curriel on our staff be in the

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 4>industry for a long time now, Like if I'm lining

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<v Speaker 4>up the board, I would take him fifth overall, so

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 4>he'd be the guy I look at for the Braves.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are a couple other outfielders that I know

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<v Speaker 4>my colleagues at BA prefer and I think also make

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of sense. We can get into those if

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 4>you want. Drew Burris at Georgia Tech. AJ Garcia at

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Virginia is another name, and then maybe even Tyler bellat

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky as both the name that I've heard with the

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Braves justin Lebron if you want more athleticism tools upside,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I think the only I don't think a

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<v Speaker 4>high school hitter is most likely here for the Bravez,

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<v Speaker 4>just because there's not an obvious name that makes sense

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<v Speaker 4>on talent. But this might be kind of the upper

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<v Speaker 4>range for Trevor Condon, who is also a local kid,

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 4>high school player out of Georgia who should be one

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>of the next high school hitters after our elite top

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 4>six are off the board.

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<v Speaker 5>So Coylas, you just you mentioned a lot of names

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<v Speaker 5>college talent, some prep arms. I mean, where's the strength

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<v Speaker 5>in the twenty twenty sixth draft class.

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<v Speaker 4>I think relative to a normal year, the strength as

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<v Speaker 4>a whole is for high school pitching. It's a bit

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 4>unusu to say because we don't have a high school

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 4>pitcher ranked in the top fifteen, but I think outside

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 4>of that range there are a ton of high school

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 4>armsuit teams are excited about. So at the top of

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 4>the board this year we expected to be very hit

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.120
<v Speaker 4>or heavy, probably pretty college heavy, but this has been

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<v Speaker 4>one of the more praised high school pitching classes that

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 4>I've covered at Baseball America. I know this is a

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<v Speaker 4>demographic that a lot of teams are really hesitant to

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 4>take early in the draft. The Braves are one of

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<v Speaker 4>the outliers there, and I think they've done pretty well

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 4>by that. There are a number of high school pitchers

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.919
<v Speaker 4>in this class that I would take. I would probably

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 4>take four or five high school pitchers before the second

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 4>college arm goes out the board. We have a clear

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 4>number one college right handed pitcher in Jackson Floor at

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 4>UC Santa Barbara, who should be a top ten overall pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that once you get into the second half

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<v Speaker 4>of the first round, once you get into the comp range,

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<v Speaker 4>second round, even third round, there are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of really appealing high school arms. So I

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 4>think that is the strength of the class. I also

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 4>think there are a number of college bats that are interesting,

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 4>but who come with flaws. Like I mentioned, there's Derek Curriell,

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 4>who you feel good about the hitting ability, he maybe

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have tools. You have a guy like Justin Lebron

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 4>at Alabama who is like rivals any player in this

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 4>class in terms of upside and tools. Say, if you

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 4>see him on the right day, he looks like a

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 4>franchise player. So there are going to be some teams

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 4>who shoot for like the ceiling and shoot for the

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 4>moon with players like Justin Lebron and Sawyer Strosnyder, and

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 4>then there are going to be teams who maybe take

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 4>a safer track and go for these like proven hit

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 4>oriented players like a Chris Hiccopean at Texas A and

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 4>M who I think is another player who could fit

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 4>for the Braves. He's a player I've heard linked with them.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 4>He has very limited defensive ability, speed, arm strength, but

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 4>his hit power combination is maybe one of the best

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.479
<v Speaker 4>in the class not named rock Chelawski or von Lackey.

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 4>So I do think for me, the college hitting group

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 4>is going to get a lot of criticism because there

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 4>are obvious flaws with all these players you can point to.

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 4>But I think depending on what you do well as

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 4>a player development group, there's a lot of value to

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 4>be had here, and there's a lot of depth of

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 4>physical toolsy and infield oriented college players, which I think

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 4>is just an appealing demographic generally.

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 5>Kind of an adjacent question of that, but of course

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 5>in college football college basketball, nil has just completely altered

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 5>the way the drafts go with being able to retain

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 5>players and maybe keep players around for another year instead

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 5>of them going pro and maybe making not the greatest

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.239
<v Speaker 5>choice for them. I know college basketball college football are

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 5>very different from college baseball and the prep circuit as well,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 5>but in what ways, if any, has kind of this

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.719
<v Speaker 5>modern era of college athletics impacted the baseball draft.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it sounds like MLB at least wants to go

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 4>fully into that NFL and NBA direction and get rid

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 4>of high school players entirely, which I think would be

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 4>disastrous for Major League Baseball. But even beyond that, with

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 4>the current system, as we're dealing with that, I think

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 4>it is a lot easier for colleges to retain typical

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 4>draft eligible juniors once you get into the four, five, six, seven,

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 4>eight nine round range. And so I think from the

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 4>team perspective, and this was brought up to me specifically

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 4>at a field the other day when I was talking

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 4>with scouts. I think the new five year eligibility rule

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna come and play I think in twenty seven.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 4>So players who are eligible this year and have remaining eligibility,

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 4>it's not the case where hey, you're a junior, you

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 4>can choose to take this deal or come back as

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 4>a senior next year with no leverage. You're going to

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 4>have two additional years. So I think the way that

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 4>that leverage impacts signing negotiations for those players is just

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 4>going to really make teams have to do even more

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 4>due diligence. I'm making sure they have those signability numbers down.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 4>We say this every year. If a player is selected

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<v Speaker 4>in the top ten rounds, you should assume they are

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 4>signing because teams have a great hit rate on signing

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 4>those players. I think in the bonus pool era, it

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 4>is like ninety eight point five percent of players taken

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 4>sign There are a handful of players each year who don't.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 4>That's almost always a mistake by the team. Either they've

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 4>drafted a player blind, just assuming they're going to be

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 4>able to get it done, calling a player's bluff and

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't happen, or a medical situation comes up which

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 4>changes the money from the team perspective, and the players like, no,

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to agree to that. I agree to

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 4>something else. But I do think that's an element that

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 4>is interesting. You also see a lot more withdrawals from

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 4>the draft. We see that from high school players, we're

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 4>seeing that from college players more this year. Steven Milom

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 4>at LSU was a player we think could have fit

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 4>in the third to sixth round range in this year's class.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 4>A very solid college player. Teams have the financial ability

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>and the desire to get roster stability. College coaches are

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of hate. Everyone hates the timing of the draft

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 4>these days. But there's transfer portal, there's draft. You don't

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 4>know who's coming back to your team. You really have

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 4>no certainty about who's actually going to be filling out

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 4>your lineup and in your rotation, So teams are pressuring

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>kids and saying, hey, we'll give you X amount of

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 4>money if you pull your name out from the draft.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 4>So there are a lots lots of other elements, lots

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 4>of other avenues for players to get money, which is

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 4>probably good from a player perspective, but I know from

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 4>the team perspective, just does complicate things. It makes it

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 4>a little trickier. College is more competitive than it used

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>to be in louring players away, so that's an element.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I imagine we'll continue seeing fewer and fewer high school

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 4>players as a total proportion of the whole draft. I

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 4>think the last few years it's been like one hundred

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 4>or so high school players signed. So yeah, it's definitely

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>a real factor.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could probably get a bunch of scouts to

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<v Speaker 4>call you up and unload as well. When we reached

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<v Speaker 4>out to them, they were not happy. It's probably putting

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I can imagine. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have already named a couple of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to give you the chance to. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a feeling you have some favorites that are like

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<v Speaker 1>your guys. I like to ask that question when I

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<v Speaker 1>have people at cover drafts. I think is Curiel is

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of them based on what you said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it could be deeper too, like the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>have picks at forty eight and eighty four and one

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve and down the board, like so fans will be

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>interested in what you have even so wide open, like

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>who are Carlos's guys like in big bold letters.

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, carry All has become the one I've already talked

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 4>about him, so I'll move on to another. I really

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 4>like saw Your Strosnyder and outfit or at TCU for

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 4>maybe the exact opposite reasons that I like Derekkuryle, which

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 4>is funny. He has some hit questions, some approach questions,

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 4>but I think from really the entire draft, there are

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 4>a few players who you could point to and say

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 4>they have sixties across the board power, speed, fielding arm

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 4>I think Sawyer strosnider is that he had an exceptional

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 4>freshman season with TCU, maybe didn't quite live up to

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 4>expectations the spring, hit under three hundred, which is a

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 4>scary number to not cross for a potential first round

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.479
<v Speaker 4>college outfielder. He is one that I'm just really bullish

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 4>on the athleticism and the upside potential. I think he's

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 4>shown enough improvement with his approach this spring even without

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 4>hitting three hundred, that I'm excited about what he could

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 4>do moving forward. I think he's probably in between both

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 4>of the Braves picks. Maybe there's a chance he slips

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 4>to their second pick if they got him with their

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 4>second pick. I would be thrilled if I was a

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Braves fan from the high school pitching demographic, which is

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 4>a demographic that I always like more than the industry.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 4>Coleman Borthwick is right handed pitcher out of Florida. He

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>is this like massive six foot six, two hundred and

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 4>sixty pound right handed pitcher. He's also a really talented

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 4>third baseman and hitter. He doesn't look like he would

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 4>be a good infielder. He played shortstop for his team.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Just imagine a six foot six, two hundred and sixty

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 4>pounds player playing shortstop, and like for a high school player,

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 4>he plays it well. He would be a real hitting

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 4>prospect in college. I've talked to a few scouts. I

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 4>think they're probably outlier opinions who'd like him as a

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 4>hitter even in pro ball. But I'm all in on

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 4>his pitching ability. It's a fastball up to ninety eight

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine. It's a power slider in the mid eighties.

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 4>It's exceptional body control for a player of his size

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 4>and just weight. He throws strikes at a high level.

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 4>I think he has tremendous baseball IQ. He's actually gotten

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Austin Riley comps, which is interesting because

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Austin Riley, I'm not sure if you guys remember at

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 4>the time, but like when he was coming out of

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 4>high school, a lot of scouts thought of him as

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 4>a pitching prospect.

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 3>First.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 4>I think Coleman Borthwick is probably in the opposite direction

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 4>where he's probably more likely to pitch at the next level.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 4>But I would take him in the middle of the

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 4>first round. I don't hear about him going there a lot,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 4>So if he was another player who the Braves had

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 4>a chance to get with their second pick, I think

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 4>that would be great value. I could probably name some more,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 4>but I don't want to exhaust you guys. If there's

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.959
<v Speaker 4>any other specific players you want to hear about these,

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 4>please let me know.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You would never you would never exhaust us. This is

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it's actually it's always hard because like I'm almost gonna

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>ask you, like, give me like a a later round

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>guy that you like. But also if I ask that question,

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like that means you probably had that player rounds

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>ahead of where he might be drafted, you know what

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's kind of like, hey, there are name

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy out outside of the top two rounds or

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>something that you like that this is this.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 4>This is a good question, actually, because the way we

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 4>try to build our list for people who are maybe

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 4>unfamiliar with our process, it is less a this is

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 4>like Carlos Clauso's opinion on the players, and more a Hey,

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 4>We're trying to solicit as much feedback as we can

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 4>from the scouting industry as a whole, and we're trying

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 4>to create like a consensus industry list. So even if

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 4>I really like a player, but none of the scouts

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 4>I talk to you like that player, I'm going to

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 4>have him placed where the scouts have him. I think

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 4>that is a more valuable list for our players. I'm

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 4>trying to get into the expertise of these guys who

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 4>are doing it year round, seeing these players far more

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 4>than I am. The coverage is far better. So there

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>are always some players that I do like a little

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 4>bit more than where we have him on the board.

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 4>One that I'll name is another high school hitter listed

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 4>as a short stop, probably not a short stop in

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 4>the long term, but Connor Como out of Texas. He

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 4>is the six ft four, one hundred and eighty pound

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 4>left handed hitter with great natural hitting traits. I think

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 4>a lot of physical projection in the future to dream

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 4>on more power coming. But his swing is super easy,

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 4>super loose, super repeatable. I think he's unfazed by velocity.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 4>There's a chance he goes in the twenties. I think

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 4>with teams like the Tigers, who are picking in front

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 4>of the brave second pick, he gets rumored there a

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 4>little bit. I think he has a chance to go

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 4>on the comp round range. We have him ranked on

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 4>talent right in the middle of the second I like

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 4>him better than that, so he's one another name I

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 4>like in this range I will go with. There's so

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 4>many guys that could pull up. Kaden McCarthy is a

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 4>right handed pitcher out of Vermont, and I think that

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 4>in and of itself is kind of unique. We don't

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 4>often have Vermont prospects ranked on the BA five hundred

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 4>at all, let alone a guy who we have right

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the third round range. She's a

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 4>six foot right hander who's been up to ninety nine

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.439
<v Speaker 4>miles per hour. It feels like every high school pitcher

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 4>in this class is a fastball that gets into the

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 4>mid nineties. But he's a dynamic mover. On the mound.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 4>He has elite spin capacity. I think a chance for

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 4>multiple above average breaking balls, and even talking about him now,

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I feel like ten years ago that profile is like

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 4>slam dunk first rounder, but just because like everyone throws

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 4>hard and everyone has a banger breaking ball. These days

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't do quite as much. But I think his

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 4>combination of youth. He's also a reclass from twenty twenty seven,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 4>so he's young for the class as well. He's another

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 4>name that I like, kind of in that third round

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 4>range for us.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 5>Can you imagine being a poor hitter in Vermont High

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 5>school and here comes in the ninety nine fast I mean,

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 5>I would wear every piece of protective gear. I could

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 5>stand four feet off the plate and say, dear, don't

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 5>hit me.

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, the craziest one is the Brody B. Miller, who's

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 4>a left handed picture out of Massachusetts. I'm not sure

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 4>if you guys have heard this name, but he's a

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 4>six foot nine, two hundred and fifty five pounds left

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 4>handed pitcher who's been up to one hundred and two

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 4>miles per hour in high school. So, like, imagine the

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 4>Massachusetts kids stepping in the box against Ham. I can't

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 4>imagine being a left handed hitter.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it always went out. My hamstring's a little tight.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 5>I can't go to day sorry.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Right right, yeah, Okay, this is gonna be incredibly self indulgent.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Scot's gonna laugh at me. There is I have seen

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>a few lists in like a top hundred range. There's

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a park you high school guy on this list, Malchi Washington.

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you have an opinion at all? You don't have

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to have an opinion, but look, I'm so old. It

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>could be my son. He's not, but like he's part

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of you hig school guy, so I have to ask

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you the question. He's like on list.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 4>So we're talking about the draft, so there's almost always

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 4>going to be a park for you guy. It feels like, yeah,

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 4>he's one of the best athletes.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I literally I literally looked at like, again, I have

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>no idea, So I literally looked a much less.

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, is there parkview control? F park view?

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 3>We got a guy to ask Carlos about.

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 4>There's always one. Yeah, he's one of the better athletes

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 4>in the class. Elite frame, lots of physicality, advanced like

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 4>muscular build. He's a seventy or sixty five or seventy

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 4>grade runner. He has a ton of power. I think

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 4>the question with him is like is he going to

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 4>play center field? Is he going to be too big?

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Is he going to move to a corner? And what

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 4>is like the peer hitting ability? The swing can get

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 4>a little bit long, the swing decisions are a little

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 4>bit more iffy right now. So I think he does

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 4>fit into that bucket of like super tools, the big upside,

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 4>real questions about the peer hitting ability, and I think

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.919
<v Speaker 4>that is like he's kind of in that bucket where

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 4>if someone drafts him, I would understand entirely why if

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 4>he was like one of the better high school players

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 4>who got to campus because teams wanted to improve the

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 4>hit tool, that makes sense as well. But he's certainly,

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 4>I think, on a short list of like if you're

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.479
<v Speaker 4>picking out the best athletes in the class, he would

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:55.919
<v Speaker 4>be on there.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to LSU from what I remember seeing.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Joking aside, but look that, uh Scott makes fun of

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my part few affiliation all the time.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 3>He should, But.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Listen, the Braves have had the two best park Few

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>players of all time on their roster and Matt Olsen.

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Mat Okay, Yeah, currently he's pretty good. Uh No, Matt

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Olsen is a park Few product. I don't know.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a lot younger than me. Yeah, that's when you

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>were not you weren't in the Southeast. I don't think

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>when I was happening. But he's a lot younger than me.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Matt. I do know Jeff, so I'll

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>abstain from that. But they're literally the two best players

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in my high school sistory have been braves prominently so amazing.

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Just throw it out there, Scott, anything else you want

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to ask Carlos? Could we could keep him here all day?

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Just naming basically, just name some guys, Carlos, just key

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>up names some guys, But we have nothing serious.

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 4>You guys, you guys heard all in the team. You

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 4>know the full system. How about like general profile? Like

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 4>what what I know?

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Brad?

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 4>I feel like you're always a hitter. You want hitters?

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I do like I do like hitting, And maybe it's

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit just like going the opposite of what

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>they've done, but I won't claim to Honestly, my genuine

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>answer would be I would text you and say who

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>should I want?

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, let me give you these profiles and you guys,

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 4>tell me which is most exciting. Okay, polished, pure hitter

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 4>with power questions in center field profile, well rounded, switch

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 4>hitting shortstop with great on base skills, no caring tool,

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 4>no great weakness, the most productive college player the last

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 4>three years with power but no physical projection. Or power

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 4>oriented catcher with hit risk but a chance to be

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 4>a good defender. Which of those gets you fired up?

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh? Man, it's funny. I'm gonna say this. Drake Baldwin

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 5>is awesome, But catcher is such a gigantic wasteland in

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 5>Major League Baseball, and they are so valuable even if you,

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 5>let's say it all works out, like we've seen what

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 5>catcher's command in trades because they were in wrench demand.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 5>So my first answer what I want, I want a

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 5>first ballot Hall of Fame or unanimous decision greatest player

0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 5>in franchise history. But if not, I think a catcher

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 5>with genuine upside because they're so rare. And then I

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 5>know they went shortstop heavy in last year's draft, but

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 5>they they have to figure out shortstop like it's been

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 5>Stansby Swanson left town.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so, Scott sounds like you would you would

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 4>be happy if Ryder Helfrick from Arkansas or Tyler Bell

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 4>is the pick, and then Brad I.

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because I think you definitely described Drew Burris

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>right with the product, with the production and limited physical profile.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Was that was Drew burs for sure.

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>He's the one guy I know anything about because just

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the volume of questions we've gotten about him. I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I I just I would like upside in general.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you can take Justin Lebron. Then there's your

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<v Speaker 4>short stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got a cool name.

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<v Speaker 3>Steven would be through.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an Alabama guy, so Steven would love him because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a roll tiede guy. So yeah, I'll take I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take the swing. Give me the swing in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you have to pick this high. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>always have to picked this high.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a second first round pick too to balance

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<v Speaker 4>out the risky pick. So yeah, give me this wing.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, he genuine genuinely My answer would have been, I

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<v Speaker 1>will I will text you the day before the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, who are the Braves going to take?

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<v Speaker 1>And then who should they have taken? So when they

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<v Speaker 1>take the wrong guy, I can say Carlos said this

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<v Speaker 1>is the wrong pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know if there's one like huge red

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<v Speaker 4>flag I have in this range, if it's chrys Ocopian,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just not a Chrys'copian fan as much. So like

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<v Speaker 4>he can. But again there will be people who say, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>he's the best here in the class.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he if he's the pick, we're coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show that day or that night and saying Carlos

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<v Speaker 1>did not want this guy. All joking, we might, I

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<v Speaker 1>might beg you to come back talk about whoever they

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<v Speaker 1>do take in the or months or whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're super busy and we appreciate you taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time this close to your super Bowl. Basically, is that

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<v Speaker 1>accurate to say this is a super Bowl the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>AFT Day is the biggest day of the year at

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<v Speaker 4>Baseball America and for me in particular. So yeah, that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're on TV for hours, what's happening? You came

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<v Speaker 1>to write new things, You're just sitting there talk so well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, my friend for doing this. We were appreciative.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to just ask all of these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said no, I was going to say, Scott

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour and we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is what I would do. I would go

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<v Speaker 5>to Baseball America dot com and read all of their

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<v Speaker 5>scouting reports and go, you know, Brad, I've been grinding

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<v Speaker 5>the tape for nine hours on this player.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I can Baseball America dot com. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And we don't run codes that often. So if

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0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.279
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<v Speaker 4>to know more about the players, definitely take advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And we really appreciate it because I cover the draft

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<v Speaker 4>you and thank you guys for having me on like

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<v Speaker 4>like always happy to happy to come on here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is our pleasure. And the draft begins. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's one o'clock pm Eastern on Saturday, July eleventh, is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing in front of me right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>watch Carlos on TV and just say, hey, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that guy from ham Church twenty that guy used to

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<v Speaker 1>host a Talking chot podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be what I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay, all right, everybody, Please stay tuned for more,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see everybody next time.