WEBVTT - Second Date Update: The Muffin Lady

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks for finding the official Second Date Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We are so glad you're here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter how you got here.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one you're not going to forget today, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that. You'll never look at a muffin the

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<v Speaker 1>same again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, or maybe a minivan, or just any of the stores. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>kids ruin a lot of things for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so enjoy the new episode here in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but first we'd love to highlight your comments.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kabooty commented on yesterday's Awkward and said, Brooke, you

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<v Speaker 3>should be helping resolve the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they come to you, not to worsen the situation.

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh-oh, Brooke, you're in trouble. How did I make it worse?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say it, they just said it.

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<v Speaker 5>The listeners are mad at you, Brooke.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no way you could make that man situation

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<v Speaker 1>worse from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a hot mess, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, listen, I guess Alexis will read the

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<v Speaker 1>ones about how I suck at my job more often

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<v Speaker 1>if you leave those comments.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them. Yeah, your brand new episode starts

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens when your expectation of a date doesn't match

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<v Speaker 3>what actually happens.

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<v Speaker 5>When you meet up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're just living in reality.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not what I mean. I'm just saying nobody's living there.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens every time, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, like for example, I met up with a person

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<v Speaker 3>one time nicknamed Oak Tree. And when I actually saw them,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not an oak tree.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 5>More like a sapling.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want the tree analogy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's just an example to lead into our listener, Vince,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's saying he's been kind of disappointed in the

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<v Speaker 3>dates that he's gone on, even though they are happening.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's hoping that we can help him. So, Vince, man,

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<v Speaker 5>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, guys. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought for sure he was going to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about what type of tree you were.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get into that later and I can send you

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of the entire Arbor catalog. But Vince, I got

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<v Speaker 3>to say, I'm a little bit confused because your email

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<v Speaker 3>says it's not like the girl's ghosting you. You just

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<v Speaker 3>don't like the dates that you two are going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you explain more what that means?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're not going the way I thought they would

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They, though, means multiple. You've been on more than one date.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we've been on a few, and each one gets

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<v Speaker 4>weirder and weirder. I feel like I'm in an episode

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<v Speaker 4>of Twin Peaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's quite a reference, Vince. I'm sure some of

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<v Speaker 3>our listeners will recognize what you're talking about, but go

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<v Speaker 3>into the details. Like, what's happening with this woman that

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<v Speaker 3>you're meeting up with? What's her name?

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<v Speaker 4>Her name is Jamie.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And do we get to know how you met Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>or do we not have time since we have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through multiple dates here?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no. I can say really quickly. We met online.

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<v Speaker 4>We got along. I felt very comfortable with her. We

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<v Speaker 4>had some great conversations. Okay. And I figured like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like for our first date, let's go to Target.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we can walk on Target and do a

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<v Speaker 4>little shopping and then go get dinner. Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>That was your idea to do a Target date?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was her idea to do a Target date.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've heard of these before where women

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<v Speaker 1>suggest something like this because they expect the man to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for their daily groceries.

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<v Speaker 5>And they deserve to have their groceries paid for, too.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got to add that in.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but what was the expectation?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, going into it, we didn't have any space of

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to pay for what or what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>So we get there. We're outside laughing. We're talking. And

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<v Speaker 4>I go, hey, do you want to go into the Target?

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<v Speaker 4>And Jamie says to me, hey, I want you to

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<v Speaker 4>check out my backseat. You should check out my backseat.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of room back there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, the backseat of the car?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the backseat of her car.

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of... forward the way that you're saying it well.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume that she had got it detailed.

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<v Speaker 1>That if a man says we had assumed kidnapping not

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<v Speaker 1>detailed but.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying it to him i don't know maybe girls think

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<v Speaker 4>guys like cars and they want to see them i

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<v Speaker 4>really don't know what was going on or what her

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<v Speaker 4>motive was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay so you go over to the car right.

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<v Speaker 4>We go over to the car i look at it

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<v Speaker 4>it is a nice back seat i can't lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey all right all right that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>She says to me get in oh And then she

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<v Speaker 4>closes the door.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 4>And then she gets in the front seat.

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 4>And then she starts driving the car around. What?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we go back to my kidnapping allegations now?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you freaked out?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little bit. Because I'm like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>We're supposed to go to Target.

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<v Speaker 1>And why are you in the back seat and not

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<v Speaker 1>in the passenger seat if she's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To drive you somewhere?

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<v Speaker 4>So what happens is we pull up. She gets me

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<v Speaker 4>out of the car and then she drives away. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>we messed around a little bit before that.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, wait, wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean you messed around?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, after like 10 minutes driving around, we

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<v Speaker 4>stopped somewhere. She got in the back of me. We

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<v Speaker 4>fooled around a little bit. And then she kicked me

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<v Speaker 4>out of the car and left.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck? I can't. You're not in the Target

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot anymore. You're away from your own vehicle at

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<v Speaker 2>this point. She abandoned you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I could get to my car. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>that far away. But, like, she did literally just dump

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<v Speaker 4>me out of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And you went out with this woman again. Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>We go again. She wants me to meet her up

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<v Speaker 4>at Great Clips.

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<v Speaker 5>Great Clips. Oh, you're getting matching haircuts.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they ever go inside any of these businesses, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we didn't go inside again. The same thing. She

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<v Speaker 4>pulls me in the back, drives around, goes there. We

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<v Speaker 4>fool around and she drives off.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a.

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<v Speaker 2>Car hookup, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and your email said that you're really disappointed with

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<v Speaker 3>how the dates are going. Which part of this is

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<v Speaker 3>disappointing to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I just don't know where she's coming from.

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<v Speaker 4>And then every time I try to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with her, like, she just shoves muffins in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>What the?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry. Is that a metaphor or a real muffin?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you meet her? I can't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stop. What do you mean muffins?

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<v Speaker 5>Where's she getting muffins?

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<v Speaker 4>She makes them herself. Oh, wow. And she just hands

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<v Speaker 4>me muffins when she's done with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>She drives you around in the backseat, has her way

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<v Speaker 3>with you, and then shoves a muffin in your mouth

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<v Speaker 3>that says, get out. Speechless. You might be the only

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<v Speaker 3>man that has a problem with the way that this

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<v Speaker 3>is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she's ghosting him, I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, now she's ghosting you?

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<v Speaker 4>No, she's not. In fact, she's looking for more dates.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm assuming that it's going to be like the

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<v Speaker 4>same type of thing, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can only take so many muffins in one month.

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<v Speaker 4>I want a relationship. I don't want this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want a relationship and something deeper with her,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't you just tell her that yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you need us to do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because every time I try to talk to her, she

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<v Speaker 4>takes charge of the situation, she wants to meet in person,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I end up with a muffin in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, honestly, there could be things worse to be dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with in a dating situation, but we're going to attempt

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<v Speaker 3>to help you when we come back.

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<v Speaker 5>We will call the muffin lady.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to meet her.

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<v Speaker 5>Me too.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll try to convince her to go on an

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<v Speaker 3>actual real date with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, not to a bakery. Outside the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside of that backseat with your second date update right

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<v Speaker 3>after this.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Second date update.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're just joining us, our listener Vince has told

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<v Speaker 3>us a very strange story.

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<v Speaker 5>Excuse you, Alexis. Don't laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly can't stop laughing at it.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't laugh. This is very serious. I do feel like

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<v Speaker 5>I need to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the story more weird or is Vince's lack of

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<v Speaker 3>reaction to it the weird part?

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<v Speaker 2>That he wants more. You mean more in the relationship. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's treating this whole situation as kind of like a quirky, odd,

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<v Speaker 3>circumstantial thing. But to us, it's just downright bizarre what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Where he meets up with this woman he met online, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll meet up in front of businesses, but never actually

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<v Speaker 3>go inside them. She just invites him into the backseat

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<v Speaker 3>of his car, then drives him around, usually to other

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<v Speaker 3>local parking lots, where they fool around together until she

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<v Speaker 3>drops him back off at his car with a warm muffin.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it warm? I don't know if I got that detail,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm picturing a steaming muffin going into his mouth. And Vince,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the problem that you have with this arrangement exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want something real. And if she doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>the same way, I'm going to walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking for something deeper with her, an actual relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't have this conversation with her in person. I

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<v Speaker 4>tried once and she just changed the subject. I just,

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<v Speaker 4>I need your help guys. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys do talk, which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why I just pictured it like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of driving in silence.

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<v Speaker 2>And him kind of scared.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, she talks a lot. When she drives, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we love to discuss things and stuff. So she does

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<v Speaker 4>talk quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so curious to hear why. Why she does this.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, Brooke? Do you actually want to know why?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like it might be a little frightening

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<v Speaker 3>what you're about to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need no more behind-the-scenes details on it. Okay, fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke wants to steal tips from this lady on how

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<v Speaker 5>to put men.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking for a muffin recipe, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're here for.

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<v Speaker 4>He actually gave me the recipe. If you want, I

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<v Speaker 4>can forward it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>We do a second date update for him. He gives

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<v Speaker 3>a muffin recipe to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, there it is.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all going to win. I'm going to dial her

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<v Speaker 5>number right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go. Hello? Hello?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, we're looking to speak with Jamie.

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<v Speaker 4>This is her.

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<v Speaker 2>We are so excited to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're excited because we've heard a little bit about you.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a radio show, by the way, Brooke and Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 3>in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey. What?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>What is this?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a show. We do a lot of segments

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<v Speaker 5>on this about dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>Including this one called a second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, we, we do have the right number.

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<v Speaker 3>You're actually the woman we've been trying to reach. Cause

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<v Speaker 3>one of our listeners named Vince asked us to get

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<v Speaker 3>ahold of you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Uh, yeah, I know him, but I, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even know what we're asking yet.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all understand that you wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it, but if you actually care about Vince,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you need to give us a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of information or he says that he's ready to

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<v Speaker 3>basically walk out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing that right away. They've only hung out twice, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>So dramatic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, maybe I need to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>dramatic here because he told us about the situation that's

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<v Speaker 3>going on and he isn't 100 percent happy with how

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<v Speaker 3>it's going.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's never told me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he tried to. It's hard to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with a muffin. You seem to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very persuasive woman, and you have him under some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of spell.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a good way to put it?

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke's jealous of your magical abilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm flattered.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I like him.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Not going to lie, it makes me kind of sad

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<v Speaker 3>that he wants to cut ties with me. Well, he

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want to, but he's saying to us that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are planning these dates to do together, but you

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<v Speaker 3>never actually end up doing the thing you plan.

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<v Speaker 5>Like he mentioned Target, and you never went inside Target. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I told you a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did share quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we're just trying to get the scope of

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on between you two. So he's confused why

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<v Speaker 3>after you basically hang out, it sounds like in your

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<v Speaker 3>car for a little bit, You kind of kick him

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<v Speaker 3>to the curb.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's kind of an embarrassing reason, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>shared it with him yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so you do want to share the reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to. It just hasn't been the right time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't know how to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this actually might be the perfect time for it

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<v Speaker 3>because the way that these second-day calls work, is the

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<v Speaker 3>other person agrees that they might hear something kind of

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<v Speaker 3>out there or something embarrassing or weird, and they're okay

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 5>They give their pre-approval.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. Okay, this is the first time I'm saying this, so... Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I snort when I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I snort when I laugh all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want to tell him what?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm banned from these places. What?

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<v Speaker 2>You're banned from the businesses that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. I don't want to get into too much detail,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've been banned from these places.

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<v Speaker 2>So why would you ask him to meet you in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the place then?

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<v Speaker 5>Because it gets me hot and bothered.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh!

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you get it. You get turned on by being

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<v Speaker 2>banned from a great club?

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<v Speaker 3>It turns me on to be in close vicinity to

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<v Speaker 3>these places.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the thrill.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the adrenaline. It's really hot.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do to get banned from a place like that? How

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<v Speaker 2>many places are you banned from?

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke, are you happy that you asked this now?

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<v Speaker 1>I did think it was going to be you had

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<v Speaker 1>a husband or something, and that's why you had to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in the back of a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're purposely taking him places that you're banned from

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<v Speaker 3>because it gets you going.

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<v Speaker 4>I've said that already. What? It's humiliating.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're fine. I think you're fine. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the problem is you don't do dinner first.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I bet that he would be fine if you

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<v Speaker 1>did the great clips in the Target after you had

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<v Speaker 1>a real date.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, let's hear it directly from Vince because you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know this yet, but Vince is on the other

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<v Speaker 3>line listening to this call waiting to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's like he's been banned.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not. Vince should still be on the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey. Hey, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So you get turned on by hooking up in front

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<v Speaker 4>of a great clip, is what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, how many times do I have to say it?

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<v Speaker 2>And target. It's not the store. It sounds like the

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<v Speaker 2>being banned is the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I find that exhilarating, yeah, being banned from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to guess like it was some type of

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<v Speaker 4>shoplifting thing for Target, but why were you banned from

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<v Speaker 4>Great Clips? You don't know shit, man. So you don't

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<v Speaker 4>assume anything from any store.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is that take charge attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>But Vince, it must feel good that she wants to

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<v Speaker 3>bring you to all these places that... get her feeling

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<v Speaker 3>the way she feels yeah but.

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<v Speaker 4>Like i don't know what if she like punched the

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<v Speaker 4>manager and he comes out to get lunch and he

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<v Speaker 4>sees us making out in.

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<v Speaker 3>The back seat that's why i drive away oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Go see she's protecting.

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<v Speaker 5>You she's thought this through.

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<v Speaker 1>The one piece that's missing for me right now is

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<v Speaker 1>the muffins why why do you do the muffins.

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<v Speaker 4>A little muffin on the way out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Too far away from what Vince's goal is, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>to have a deeper relationship with you, right?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean, farther away? You asked about the

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<v Speaker 4>fucking muffin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Brooke.

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke!

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<v Speaker 2>Valid point, you're right. I'm trying to steer myself back.

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke is right.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason that we do this call is to try

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<v Speaker 3>and see if there could be a deeper connection, another date,

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<v Speaker 3>where Vince is hoping to actually do an activity with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we go to like a restaurant or a store

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<v Speaker 4>that you're not banned at and hang out there? What?

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<v Speaker 4>But it won't turn me on. Yeah, but why do

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be constantly turned on? Why can't I

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<v Speaker 4>be constantly turned on? Am I just like a body

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<v Speaker 4>to you? Is that what this is?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't give my muffins to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>She sees something in you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a compliment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know exactly what she sees. I'm even more

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<v Speaker 4>confused now than before I called you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure why you would turn this down.

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<v Speaker 2>You could go to dinner and then get banned while

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<v Speaker 2>you're there and then turn it into a future hot spot.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Alexis.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not into that. I don't want to get banned

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<v Speaker 4>or get in trouble with the law. I've done some

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<v Speaker 4>things in my past as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I thought it was because you were getting two shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know how turned on that made me when

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<v Speaker 4>you just said that, Ben?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need to get off the phone, Judd.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>It might take our producer a little while to go

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<v Speaker 3>through all of our gift cards and find one that

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<v Speaker 3>you're both allowed to be near.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Oh, Vince is fine with that. He's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Vince is checked off. He's ready for his next muffin. Jamie,

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<v Speaker 5>is that cool with you?

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<v Speaker 4>More than cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow. I feel like this is one that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to need an update from you, too.

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<v Speaker 5>Not even if they go to Chuck E.

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<v Speaker 4>Cheese?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't go there, either.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's so shocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, everybody has got their kinks.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't try to shame anyone. Some people are into

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<v Speaker 3>costumes and role play. Others are into back seats and

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<v Speaker 3>getting 86ed from established businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's not doing any more harm.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't know what she did in those businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know so bad.

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<v Speaker 5>But I got to say, I do think I get

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<v Speaker 5>it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I do feel a rush whenever I go to

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<v Speaker 3>the mall where Jose and I were banned years ago

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<v Speaker 3>for doing a stunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot. They even had your pictures up.

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<v Speaker 5>They did. You have to. It's trespassing.

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<v Speaker 3>But they lifted the ban. And now whenever I go

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<v Speaker 3>back there, I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 5>My God.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here. This is so naughty.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I still remember doing comedy shows practically in handcuffs when

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<v Speaker 3>I used to have to go to that mall and perform.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to escort you in. In and out. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't linger after the show.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, all right, buddy, get out of here. So

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<v Speaker 5>I will say there might be something to it. Those two.

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<v Speaker 2>I look for Jeffrey at the mall soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Giddy.

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<v Speaker 4>Careful.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know what mood I'm going to be in.

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<v Speaker 5>But we want to put you in a good mood.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're struggling a little bit with your dating life,

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