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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports. Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there early Thursday morning, getting

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Speaker 2: you set for some Thanksgiving ball over here. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a feast. J Martin, you get into

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Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving festivities, I mean, happy day for you, I

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Speaker 2: would imagine, so right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the family's grown. Obviously.

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Speaker 3: We now have two daughters, and you know, we can

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Speaker 3: see one of the sets of grandparents. My dad passed

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Speaker 3: last year and my mom's we don't we're not able

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Speaker 3: to see her the way that we once were. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun, and obviously we have a big

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Speaker 3: meal and celebrate a lot of a lot of things

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Speaker 3: that we have to be thankful for in this world.

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Speaker 3: And one of them, it looks like on this Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Brian is really good football. A lot of times these

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Speaker 3: games haven't been great, but there's some matchups in this one,

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Speaker 3: and there's some intriguing storylines as well. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for all three of these NFL games, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel sad for what do we have?

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Speaker 1: What's the college game? We've got? Uh, We've got Navy and.

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Speaker 2: Memphis, which is an okay game, but sandwiched in between

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Speaker 2: all this NFL stuff, that's uh, it's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: highly rated.

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Speaker 1: You know you're doing the commercial breaks, Yeah you could.

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Speaker 2: I'll absolutely have it going, you know, I'll have it

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Speaker 2: on like a side screen or a whatever, like a

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Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: The return of Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and everybody

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Speaker 2: else you know involved in this Bengals Ravens game tonight.

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Speaker 2: For me, that's gonna be the the center stage. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm you know me, j Mart. We've done plenty of

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Speaker 2: shows together. And I love football. I am a ball addict.

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Speaker 2: I think I even put that on my ex bio

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Speaker 2: ball addict, and uh I didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: Careful, be careful, I don't. Yeah, but I put it.

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Speaker 2: In all caps, so I think everybody out he means football, right,

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Speaker 2: there's no uh, you know, there's no misconstruing that.

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Speaker 1: But that we're talking about here, that's right, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it. Man. Wow, that was crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't know how much I was in football

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Speaker 2: mode until yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's a true story.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the the Pistons and the Celtics and

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Speaker 2: Asar Thompson went up for a point blank shot and

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Speaker 2: he got bumped, and I said, out loud but sort

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Speaker 2: of to myself. I'm like, where's the flag? I go,

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Speaker 2: where's the flag? I met, where's the foul? But I'm

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Speaker 2: so in football mode. I literally said, during a basketball game,

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Speaker 2: where's the flag? Like, oh my gosh, I'm not in

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Speaker 2: basketball mode yet at all. I love hoops, but man,

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Speaker 2: I am in football mode right now.

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Speaker 3: J Mart, Yeah, dude, up with you, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm a thunder fence. I'm pretty excited right now. But

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Speaker 3: at the same time, I'm not there yet. Like the

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Speaker 3: NBA Cup God bless it, but just I can't get

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Speaker 3: there yet. Like there's been some really nice college matchups

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Speaker 3: and it's not like I've seen none of this stuff,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, the brain is college and pro football oriented

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Speaker 3: right now. To say the least, it has my attention.

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Speaker 3: And we're getting down to the NDF one season, so

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Speaker 3: I've been obviously really watching that pretty hard as well.

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Speaker 1: But like there's just this NBA season's got a long

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Speaker 1: long way to go.

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Speaker 3: It's just there's so much basketball that's still going to

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Speaker 3: be left to watch after all the football was done,

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Speaker 3: it's just hard to get my attention on any given

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Speaker 3: matchup right now. In college the problem is all the

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Speaker 3: good matchups, all those teams are gonna end up playing

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Speaker 3: each other again, or they're going to have an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to make the tournament in March because of how many

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Speaker 3: teams get in. And then on the flip side, in

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Speaker 3: the NBA, most those teams see each other four times

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Speaker 3: a year anyway, So what are you going to read

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Speaker 3: into what those teams are going to be in April

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Speaker 3: because of a Rocket's Warriors tilt on Thanksgiving Eve?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's true. It's one of those deals.

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Speaker 2: I never really thought of it like that, and it

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Speaker 2: really is obvious where to go from foot fotball season

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Speaker 1: Just think of it as.

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Speaker 2: A sports fan, just in terms of sense of urgency. Right,

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Speaker 2: if you look at college football, still a great sense

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Speaker 2: of urgency to win games right away. You maybe get

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Speaker 2: that's pretty much it. That's all you could really hope

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Speaker 1: So it's go time. Man.

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Speaker 2: You get a little bit more wiggle room with the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but these games matter. We're talking seeding, we're talking who

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Speaker 2: wins the division, who's a wildcard team. All that stuff

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Speaker 2: is very important. And I love hoops, but to go

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Speaker 2: from the sense of urgency that you have on a

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Speaker 2: to like either college or especially the NBA with eighty

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Speaker 2: two games, it's just not even remotely close. You can't

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Speaker 2: watch these games like, come on, let's go. It's not

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Speaker 1: Man, you have so much more wig. Yeah you do.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it's even worse for baseball, right because yeah,

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Speaker 3: you have one hundred and sixty two games there. Even

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Speaker 3: what's funny about it is, I'm making this argument, and

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Speaker 3: you're agreeing with this argument, but it always comes down

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Speaker 3: to like the last few games to see who's gonna

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Speaker 3: are likely to win the championship anyway. Like at that point,

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Speaker 3: you're kind of just watching the almost watching. You're watching

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Speaker 3: the NCAA bubble, which has grown less and less interesting

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Speaker 3: as the years have passed, but like to your point,

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Speaker 3: the NFL in college football, every game feels massive because

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Speaker 3: every game has such a seismic opportunity to shift what's

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Speaker 3: see it in the playoffs and all this. So I

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Speaker 3: think that's probably the biggest thing is that each football

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Speaker 2: Them, absolutely no doubt about that. Well, you know, as

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Speaker 2: we look at the three NFL games here on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: more as we go on throughout the show today, but

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Speaker 2: just a broad view if you look at all three,

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Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow's return. Just in terms of like, you

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Speaker 2: In particular, is there one that you have out of

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Speaker 3: Well, man, I mean, they all have really intriguing storylines.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: an hour or two is things that we've been dead

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Speaker 3: wrong about in the NFL so far this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think that each of these games potentially has

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Speaker 1: The only thing that.

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Speaker 3: I would say, of just of the three games, the

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Speaker 3: Bengals Ravens. Okay, interesting that that'd be in the divisional matchup.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, so is the opener of the day.

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Speaker 3: But I want to see what Joe Burrow looks like

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Speaker 3: coming back, because I did not feel like this was

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Speaker 3: I wasn't looking at Joe Burrow being back on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was probably gonna take a little bit longer.

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't sure by the time he came back,

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Speaker 1: So, and I don't know that it is. But then

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Speaker 3: Flip side with Baltimore. Baltimore doesn't have much room to

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Speaker 3: about then is, yes, they won their last game, but

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Speaker 3: how impressive did they look doing it? Like Almost nothing

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Speaker 3: I've seen from the Baltimore Ravens during the course of

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, they can easily get where

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Speaker 3: it's just kind of baffling to me how this thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing with the Ravens where you would

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Speaker 2: think after the slow, slow start where they go one

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Speaker 2: for them to win five straight, you know, just on paper,

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Speaker 2: if someone wasn't paying close attention, Let's say they were

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Speaker 2: playing ketchup. If they looked and said, wow, Ravens are

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Speaker 2: they got a lot of momentum. They're really kicking it

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Speaker 2: very shoulder shruggy, if you will, right, it's been very,

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Speaker 2: very ordinary, And Lamar doesn't look to be the superstar

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Speaker 2: that he is. He's a two time MVP. Some would

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Speaker 2: look like that. He looks like an unhealthy guy that's

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Speaker 2: have to wonder if they're gonna be able to kick

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Speaker 2: don't look like it right now at all.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't.

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Speaker 3: And then here's the reason why I'm so interested about

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Speaker 3: is he? But this is a three and eight football team,

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Speaker 3: right like, I mean, you look at their record right now,

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Speaker 3: And the biggest reason is because in his absence, it's

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Speaker 3: not as if Cincinnati hasn't been able to score points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Like their offense has been you know, managed by I

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Speaker 3: a really bad Dolphins quarterback. Since I know you're a

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Speaker 3: Miami fan. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's going to hit right

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Speaker 3: close to home to you.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: But the problem is the defense hasn't been good and

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Speaker 3: that doesn't change with Joe Burrow coming back, Like he

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Speaker 3: still lose because that's what they were doing a lot

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Speaker 3: last year with him playing almost MVP level football week

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Speaker 3: after week. The defense has been the biggest issue. And

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Speaker 3: to Indianapolis and their defense is almost instantly better, almost

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Speaker 3: And look, that's right. I think save the season is

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, they've been It's been a weird year for

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Speaker 2: January tewod and January sixteenth, So that's smack dab in

435
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 2: the middle of the playoff, which is just so stupid

436
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: to me, Like you gotta ask yourself, is college football,

437
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: what would the NFL do? Would the NFL open free

438
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: agency smack dab in the middle of the playoffs? No,

439
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be dumb they would not do that. There's

440
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: gotta be a better way to do this where you're

441
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: not opening the transfer portal during the playoff. That's just dumb.

442
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: It makes no sense. You don't want your playoff to

443
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 2: be upstaged by yourself, like the college football playoff can

444
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: be upstaged in ways by the college football transfer portal.

445
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: That makes no sense to me.

446
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: But with the dates being what they are, so you

447
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: think about the first round, it starts December nineteenth and twentieth.

448
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: The quarterfinals are December thirty first and January first, So

449
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: in theory, you could have Lane stick around and maybe

450
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: you win the first playoff game.

451
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: If you win the.

452
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: Quarterfinals, then what what do you You gotta have your

453
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: next head coach in place. You got the transfer portal

454
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: window opening up.

455
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: You can't have Lane coaching the team in.

456
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: The college football playoff as you're like now in the

457
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: final four. Basically, meanwhile, what do you what do you

458
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: do with the portal? You have no head coach, You

459
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: have no system in place. He can't be around for

460
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: the playoff. If he decides to go to LSU or

461
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: somewhere else, you can't have him as the old misshead

462
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: coach come playoff time.

463
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: That's the situation we're in right here. No, that's right.

464
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, look, if I'm LSU and I'm gonna

465
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: pay him ninety to ninety eight mil whatever the number

466
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: turns out to be, and give him the twenty five

467
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: million annual roster cash as the offer has been reported,

468
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm not paying him for a season that's going to

469
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: be a waste. I'm not giving him a dummy season

470
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 3: like that. Money that I'm paying him actually has to

471
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: go into trying to field a team next year that

472
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: can win a championship, not two years from now. Especially

473
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: in nil and everything else, you can turn that around

474
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: relatively quickly. So I understand it from their perspective, and

475
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: you can understand from Lane's perspective because he's kind of caught.

476
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: He obviously had plays all the cards. I don't see

477
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: him as a victim here. He's a victim of his

478
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: own success, if you want to say that. But he

479
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: could shut this down at any point. My question would

480
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: be this, and I said this last week to Aaron

481
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: Torres on our show on Saturday Night. I said that

482
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: as soon as I saw that they were going to

483
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: have the announcement about Lane, Kiffn's future at ole Miss.

484
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: The day after the Egg Bowl, I said, Oh, he's

485
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: staying for sure. Oh wow.

486
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: And the more I've thought about it, the more I've thought,

487
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: that's insane. And I feel like I got caught in. Okay,

488
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: I got caught in. I got caught in pro wrestling

489
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: booker mode, which is something I did for a while,

490
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: So maybe that's how I looked at it.

491
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: I said, if I wanted to.

492
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: Create a hero, if I wanted to create an iconic moment,

493
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: the thing that I would do is turn it into

494
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: the greatest week in ole Miss football history, where they

495
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: go beat their rival to end the season with one loss,

496
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: where they have all sorts of momentum, potentially going into

497
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: a college football playoff. And then the next day the

498
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: question gets answered and Lane Kiffn says, you know what,

499
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: it's it's really really nice to be wanted and LSU

500
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: and Florida and all these other opportunities. I'm so flattered

501
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 3: by all of this. But my family loves Oxford and

502
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: want we want to finish our business here. It's not

503
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: even that there's unfinished business and then we can leave.

504
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: It's just now like this place has been good to us,

505
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: gave us a chance. We want to win a championship

506
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: right here. If he does that, they build a statue

507
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: for him outside the stadium and he becomes one of

508
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: the greatest heroes, maybe the biggest figure in almost football history,

509
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: or certainly one of them, and he.

510
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Can write his ticket forever.

511
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm looking at it from a storybook perspective, but

512
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: the realistic perspective is when you listen to Keith Carter,

513
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: the athletic director, talk about it and say, look, we

514
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: don't want our kids to be distracted this week going

515
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: into this rivalry game, and we want them to feel

516
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: like they have the full support of the university behind

517
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: them as they prepare for this game.

518
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: That sounds like a eulogy.

519
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 3: That sounds like we've got to make sure that they

520
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: have there, that they have their rescue animals, that they

521
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: have what they need, their comfort animals, their comfort squirrel

522
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: or whatever it is on the airplane to be able

523
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: to get through what's going to be a really traumatic

524
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: time period. So I have flipped on it in my

525
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: own head, but I'm sticking by my guns.

526
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to turn out to be a fool, probably,

527
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: and I'm well.

528
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Aware of that. And here's the other thing. Maybe there's

529
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: a part of me. It's just like I'm rooting for

530
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: him to stay because I think that's the right decision.

531
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: And I'll lay that out for you here in a minute.

532
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: But I want to see Lane Kiffen stay at Old

533
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: Miss and build something there.

534
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it could be his place. Yes, Like it's not.

535
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, he's at LSU and now he's the next head

536
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: coach with Tedo and Sabin and right like now he's

537
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: won a championship along with these other guys. Yeah, he

538
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: could have his own thing at Ole Miss. I think

539
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: he's absolutely gone.

540
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: Man, I.

541
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Think he's going to LSU. As my guest, I've heard

542
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: some people say that he's going to Florida. I think

543
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: it's LSU. But if he were staying at Old Miss,

544
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: he would just come right out and be like, guys,

545
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I'm focused on the egg Ball.

546
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm focused on the College Football Playoff. We've worked for

547
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: years to be in this spot and this moment is

548
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: all I'm about right here, So please stop connecting the dots.

549
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I listened.

550
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: I decided I'm staying here at Ole Miss. It wouldn't

551
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: be hey after the egg bowl, We've got this mystery announcement.

552
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Like unless this is straight from WWE, and you know,

553
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: look that's where I'm coming from. It's the face turn. Right,

554
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: normally it's a heel turn, it's a face turn. You

555
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: think he's gone, He's like psych I'm staying baby like, yeah, yeah,

556
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's happening.

557
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: But I like the thought. I just don't think you

558
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: would approach it that way.

559
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: If that's now, Look, you're probably well, like I said,

560
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm probably looking at it from a completely ridiculous perspective.

561
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: I admit that wholeheartedly. Like what you're saying is probably right.

562
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: You're probably smart. I'm probably not. That's just and probably

563
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: may have left the building. I just I look at

564
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: this and I and I do see it from this perspective. Also,

565
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: and I've heard this said by some people. I respect it.

566
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: In the industry. Lane is different than a lot of

567
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: other people. He absolutely he is.

568
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: He does things a lot now, there have been you know,

569
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: he's talked about getting sober and maturing a lot at

570
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: Old Miss, his family loving it there, and look, it's

571
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: a great town. And in this era he's closer to

572
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: a national championship by far than LSU or Florida either one.

573
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: At this point, I also say this, Let's say Lane

574
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 3: Kiffen is this coach for the next twenty five years

575
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: at Ole Miss where he's right there on the doorstep,

576
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: but he didn't quite get there. He's Mark feu Egnzaga

577
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: or maybe Signetti and Indiana never quite get there, but

578
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: they're right there year after year after year. He's still

579
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: gonna go down as a legend there. Like, you think

580
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: about your quality of life there compared to what happens

581
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: to you in LSU. When you win a championship, you

582
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: get fired a few years later. That's happened to Less Miles,

583
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: happened to edwar Jaran, It likely would have happened to

584
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, but he wasn't good enough anyway to win that.

585
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: And now they're going to pay him out his fifty

586
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: four million dollars, which we could talk about the end

587
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: of the hour.

588
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: But like, Lane Kiffen is in.

589
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: A perfect place where, yeah, the expectations are growing, but

590
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: they're only growing based on what he's done. Like, I

591
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: don't know that it's ever going to feel like a

592
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: failure for Lane Kiffen in that situation and then to

593
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: your point, and this to me is the key example

594
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: and the key argument. You just go become the next

595
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: guy to win a championship at Florida. You just go

596
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: to become the next guy to win a championship at LSU.

597
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: Neither one of them that far removed from having done

598
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: just that, particularly LSU Ole Miss. You become the guy

599
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: who won at Ole Miss in that conference. You become

600
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: kind of the face for what new college football can

601
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: look like. Where you're in a place where, yeah, they

602
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: felt like spending money because you have to in this

603
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: day and age.

604
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: They gave him every advantage. They gave him everything that he's.

605
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: Asked for there, and he turned that into a national champion.

606
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: That like, that's a perfect scenario. It's perfect for Yes,

607
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: it's perfect for a WWE storyline. But it's just like,

608
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: I feel like you get to the end of your

609
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: life if you're laying kiff and you say, man, I'm

610
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: glad that I state at Old Miss because the championship

611
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: were ships that I let's say we're living in hypotheticals now,

612
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: but at which we talked about in the first hour

613
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: not being a smart thing but in this case, if

614
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: he wins a championship there or wins multiple championships at

615
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: Old Miss, I just feel like there's more there, Like

616
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: it means more that he did it there than he

617
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: just became the next guy that had the built in

618
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: historical generational advantages of a Florida or LSU and took

619
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: that to the promised Land, right.

620
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Right, It'd be like me.

621
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: You could use many examples, whether it's the NFL might

622
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense where if you, let's say,

623
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: Drake May wins the super Bowl in the next couple

624
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: of years with the Patriots, that matters a lot, but

625
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: they've won a lot of super Bowls, you know what

626
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean. If you win a Super Bowl with I

627
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: don't know, say like the Jets, that was like, oh

628
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: my gosh, this guy's walking on water here the quarterback.

629
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's just different.

630
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's something to be said about that with

631
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Lane if he's able to win it all, and that's

632
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: the key at Ole Miss, of course, it's going to

633
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: mean more because you haven't had that type of success

634
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: that you've had at Florida In LSU. He wears the

635
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: visor as a shout out to Steve Spurrier, Like Steve

636
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Spurrier is his guy. But it's like if you go

637
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: to Florida, you're not the old ball coach, You're not

638
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: the OBC. You're just like you're Lane. You know, OBC

639
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: is the legend. You know, he's the guy who walks

640
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: on water. In terms of like the Gator Nation fan base,

641
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be Lane. They would love him if

642
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: he's able to win big, make no mistake, they would

643
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: love him. They'd love him in LSU also, but he's

644
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: not the guy that brought them to prominence. He would

645
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: just be, like best case scenario, the guy that brought

646
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: them back to prominence. That's not the same thing as

647
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: leading someone who's never been there to prominence. But the

648
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: other thing, I'm still hung up on this transfer window thing, man,

649
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: where it's a shame. Let's say Lane he takes the

650
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: job at LSU. That's not a crime, right, Like many

651
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: coaches have gone from one school to the next. He

652
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: has won enough games to be in the College Football Playoff,

653
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: and he should be able to coach his.

654
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Speaker 1: Team in the College Football Playoff.

655
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: But the transfer window being where it is and it's

656
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: the only window all year, long. Now, if you don't

657
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: take advantage of this window between January two to the sixteenth,

658
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: you are screwed. You are left out in the cold,

659
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: in the wilderness with no jacket on and no talent

660
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: on your roster, and you're gonna suck. And it's a

661
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: horrible spot to be in going forward. Ole Miss can't

662
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: set themselves up for failure going forward. So if Lane

663
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: Kiffin takes another gig and is like, what do you

664
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: mean I can't coach the playoff like we fought and

665
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: scratched to get here, like when it al Pajet, We

666
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: claw with our fingernails those yes, And now he can't

667
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: even have him there because the transfer went How dumb

668
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: is college football to put this thing where it is.

669
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: That should never be the case where a coach really

670
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: can't move on because he can't be with his original

671
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: team in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be like that. Man, that's just a bad setup.

673
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna look like Benedict Arnold, like if

674
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: he walks out on them, even after what he's done

675
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: for them.

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Speaker 1: Which I think is like it's it's a really.

677
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Speaker 3: Tough spot, yeah, for him to be in, and he

678
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: has to I know he has to think about it

679
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: this way too and say, look, is my name ever

680
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: gonna be hotter than this again?

681
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Is Old Miss?

682
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: Are we going to be in this position again to

683
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: where we're gonna have pretty much every job in a

684
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: country that's open wants me.

685
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Speaker 1: Do I ever get another.

686
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: Opportunity to take LSU or Florida? Do I have to

687
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: do it now or never? And in my opinion maybe not.

688
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: But even like, is it so bad to be the

689
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: Old Miss coach for the next thirty years? I don't

690
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: think so, not in this day and age. So I'm

691
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: still hoping against hope. And maybe that's why I'm gonna

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: look like a fool on Saturday. You can tune in

693
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 3: Saturday Night with me and Aaron Torres, and maybe I'll

694
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: just have my foot already in my mouth by that

695
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: point in time, trying to remove it somehow at that point.

696
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: So we don't know whether or not Lane Kiffin is

697
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Speaker 3: going to stick at Ole Miss, for he's gonna go elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, We're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Talk about two quarterbacks that have already gone elsewhere, both

700
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: from the same team, and now they've got They've got

701
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: a rookie at quarterback where things haven't been going particularly well,

702
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna ask you how you feel about both

703
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 3: of those teams going forward. But back to lane game

704
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Speaker 3: Day's rule. I don't know if he's staying in Mississippi

705
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: he said it to Florida, or.

706
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Speaker 1: He's headed to Louisiana.

707
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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this, When you add the handcrafted

708
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Speaker 3: tang of the original Louisiana Hot Sauce to your food,

709
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what day it is. It becomes a

710
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Speaker 3: little more like a game day. Pour our handcrafted recipe

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712
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713
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Speaker 3: the same you four you you feel when your team's

714
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Speaker 3: wide out toe drags for a touchdown. Dash the simple

715
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Speaker 3: three ingredients to the original Louisiana Hot Sauce onto your plate,

716
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Speaker 3: and you'll turn any old Tuesday into a tailgate, complete

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Speaker 3: With an almost one hundred year legacy of turning winning

719
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Speaker 3: kind of like your foods Lucky Jersey, So no matter

721
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Speaker 3: the grill, grab the original Louisiana Hot sauce, and add

723
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Speaker 1: That's Louisiana Hot. Buy you some.

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll.

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Speaker 2: Have time for it during the show, j Mark, but

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Our guy, Patty sweeka crushing it

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Speaker 2: as our producer today.

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Speaker 1: His impression of Stephen A.

738
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Speaker 2: Smith is so good and his impression of Colin Cowherd

739
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: is the worst impression in the history of impressions.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard either one of them. Oh my gosh, boy,

741
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Speaker 1: are you in for a treat at some point? Already

742
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: get in.

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00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're definitely getting in the in the show today

744
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: because I don't understand how one is so good and

745
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: the other is so bad.

746
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: But like the cow herd is so bad. It's hilarious

747
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 3: Man, I look like Indiana and Purdue and football kinda

749
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: yeah right, yeah, exactly.

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00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Indiana's crushing it, Purdue not so much. Yeah, that's

751
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: kind of Patty Sweeka doing impressions of various talk show hosts,

752
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: you know, but very funny stuff. We'll get that in

753
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: in the third hour. We'll definitely get that in.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: There is a very popular art argument in favor of

756
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: my absolute favorite team in the history of teams, Jason Martin,

757
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: and I actually hate this argument.

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00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a horrible argument. Now.

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00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: It is the Notre Dame fighting Irish. I'm talking nd

760
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: football right here. I'm from South Bend. Love Notre Dame football.

761
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: But you know, this knockdown drag out between Notre Dame

762
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: and Miami, who should be in, who should be out?

763
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Back and forth type thing, the head to head Miami

764
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: won it. I think that should be factored in a

765
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: lot more heavily than the committee is factoring it in.

766
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Speaker 2: But the argument I will hear in favor of Notre

767
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: Dame is well, if they met on a neutral field, now,

768
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame would win. And it's like, how do we

769
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: know that exactly. How is that just sett in stone

770
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: for sure, no doubt about it. Like I thought I

771
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: thought Ohio State was gonna crush Michigan last year by

772
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: three touchdowns they lost. Like this idea that oh neutral field,

773
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Notre Dame would win. Notre Dame's just better. Now,

774
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: it's like the better team doesn't always win a game.

775
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: So we get this straight.

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00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: We're putting a team into the playoff just because we

777
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: think they would win on a neutral field.

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00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Now, like, really, that is.

779
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 6: The body we play the original game, right, Why don't

780
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: we go by actual results instead of hypotheticals like this

781
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 6: idea that it's for sure going to happen just as

782
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 6: we see it.

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00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: We've watched enough football to know better than that.

784
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: We can't rank teams higher than the other just because

785
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: we think of what would happen.

786
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Now, that is so bad, man.

787
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: But I hear that all the time right now, and

788
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 2: it's in favor of my Irish, But I think it's

789
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: a horribly flawed and awful argument.

790
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you can have fun and hypotheticals, but you

791
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: can't live in hypotheticals, Like, yeah, there was a game

792
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: that was actually played between those two teams.

793
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: That has to matter. It has to factor.

794
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: In in some way, shape or form, or else it

795
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been played in the first place. It makes

796
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: no sense to say, well, if they played now, Dude,

797
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: there's no trade deadline in college football. Josh Allen was

798
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: not acquired before the deadline to become played quarterback at

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame. And that's not even throw a shade on

800
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: their current quarterback. But nothing changed about the roster. Nothing

801
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: changed except that Notre Dame has been crushing teams ever

802
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: since that point and Miami has shown some flaws. Do

803
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: I think that Notre Dame could beat Miami today, Yes,

804
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: But I also thought they could beat them in Week one, right,

805
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: Like it's the same exact deal, but they didn't like that.

806
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: That's the deal, Like, maybe they get another opportunity to

807
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: see each other in the playoff. I don't think so.

808
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, that's the way it played out. I mean,

809
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: Alabama would beat Florida State, but they lost to Florida

810
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: State right in the first game. Is that's just that's

811
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 3: the way the game is played, That's how it played out.

812
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: I still think Alabama is better than Oklahoma, but they

813
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: lost to Oklahoma.

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00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way it went again.

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Speaker 3: I think Tennessee should have beaten Georgia earlier this season,

816
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: but Georgia won that game forty four to forty one,

817
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: and that's the result. That's it. That's the only metric

818
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: that we have that is at least semi objective, is

819
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Speaker 3: that there was a game actually played. I can't live

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00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: in a world of hypotheticals where it's well, since this

821
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: should have happened, or since this would happen today. We

822
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Speaker 3: need to basically throw out everything that happened prior and

823
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: base this on paper, Like how many times is the

824
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: old cliche? The games are not played on paper. This

825
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 3: is why they play the games. And now you're making

826
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Speaker 3: an argument to the exact opposite effect.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's our great argument, laid out very well

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Speaker 2: by you.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I think that it can make sense to consider more

831
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Speaker 2: than just head to head. Okay, if we're just talking fundamentally,

832
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: and if we're talking specifically about Notre Dame versus Miami,

833
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: the committee wants to consider more than.

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Speaker 1: Head to head.

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00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you haven't lost me completely yet. If you want

836
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: to talk about, hey, Notre Dame has better losses than

837
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: Miami does. Okay, I'm listening, but it's not like it's

838
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: night and day. When the Committee says, we're not even

839
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: really comparing these two because we don't even view them

840
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: as equals right now, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like, wait a minute.

842
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has not played and beaten murderer's row while

843
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: Miami hasn't played a soul. Let's not make it sound

844
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: like that. That's ridiculous to me. I don't think Notre

845
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: Dame has just separated themselves from Miami in terms of

846
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: the quality teams they've beaten. You can make an argument

847
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: they've lost to better teams, but at some point, head

848
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: to head has to factor in more than it has.

849
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: I just don't think the committee is factored than in

850
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: the most And I think this too, Ja Mart Like

851
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame fans they gotta take the Homer

852
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: test here because I always say this, if your emotions

853
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: are invested, you have to flip the scenario completely around

854
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: and see if you still have the same stance. Do

855
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: you still have the same opinion, because if you don't,

856
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: it shows that you're being a homer Am. I to

857
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: believe that Notre Dame fans if it was Notre Dame

858
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: with the head to head win right against Miami. Miami

859
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: had better losses, but they hadn't beaten a ton of

860
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: great teams. Should I believe that Notre Dame fans would

861
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: be saying, oh, yeah, it makes sense even though we

862
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: beat Miami, Miami should be ranked ahead of us.

863
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: There's no way they would be saying that.

864
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Speaker 2: I think a bunch of Notre Dame fans are just

865
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: not being honest with themselves in this whole scenario here.

866
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: It pains me to say that, but I think that's

867
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Speaker 2: the truth.

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Speaker 3: So you have to be very careful that what you

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Speaker 3: are applying to someone else you would apply to yourself

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Speaker 3: is basically.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a perfect bridge to what we're going

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Speaker 3: to hit to open hour two, And that is what

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Speaker 3: if you were laying Kiffin because he's getting a very

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Speaker 3: interesting kind of mix of critique in the media and

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Speaker 3: then the public eye and his decisions just a couple

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Speaker 3: of days away.

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Speaker 1: I love it all.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's get on board the lane train. Where is

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Speaker 2: it headed or is it staying put?