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Speaker 2: this is an emergency podcast. Being that I live in

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Speaker 2: Chicago and have bull season tickets and Danny Parkins loves

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Speaker 2: the Bulls. So here's what's interesting about the Jade and

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Speaker 2: Ivy story. And this happens infrequently, but occasionally. I've been

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Speaker 2: doing this thirty plus years. You've been doing it about

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Speaker 2: twenty years, fifteen years, so occasionally you get lucky. So

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Speaker 2: it just so happens. In the last week, I made

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Speaker 2: didn't care to somebody at Purdue that over the course

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Speaker 2: of Jade and Ivy's career was in the mix. With

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Speaker 2: say he was in the mix. And so I called

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Speaker 2: this person on the Jade and Ivy story and he said,

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Speaker 2: injuries are tough for Jaden Ivy because he was a

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Speaker 2: and that he didn't really mesh well with a lot

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Speaker 2: source last night and he said, well, if Detroit's letting

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Speaker 2: desperate for guards to go with cade Cunningham. There's an issue,

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Speaker 2: he said, The bigger issue is that the bulls didn't

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Speaker 2: it was well known at Purdue, well known in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: That and and I don't like when the media talks about,

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Speaker 2: you know, mental illness. I'm not making that leap. That's

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Speaker 2: not I'm not in that space. I did say today though, Danny,

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Speaker 2: because I heard a lot of Christians say, well, so

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Speaker 2: you'll keep the criminals, but you'll fire him. And I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give you what I said on the air.

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Speaker 2: I said at the Volume, M I have sixty employees.

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Speaker 2: If one of them ever committed a crime, misdemeanor DUI,

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Speaker 2: something that's illegal, something that's serious. But they were tremendous workers,

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Speaker 2: Contrite apologized, were well liked. I would not fire them. However,

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Speaker 2: if you said, quite legally, you started talking race, religion,

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Speaker 2: about the criminals, what about you know Josh Guiney's story,

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Speaker 2: which was allegations, nothing proven, where it's only allegations, nothing proven.

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Speaker 2: But in small I would guess conservative OKC. Sam Presty's

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Speaker 2: like this isn't gonna work, but big city Chicago's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: guess my take was, it's easy to jump to, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is it's religion, it's freedom of speech.

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Speaker 3: Well, we know that argument doesn't hold water.

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Speaker 2: But my take us a lot of times, Danny that

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Speaker 1: Listen, they're tough topics anywhere, and then you certainly don't

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Speaker 1: want them in the workplace. And you've experienced this in

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Speaker 1: your career. I'm sure there are different rules for different people.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Taylor, Bill Belichick stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I will treat all of you fairly, but

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Speaker 1: That's like a tenant of coaching, that's a tenant of leadership.

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Speaker 1: If Jade and Ivy was averaging twenty five and twelve,

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Speaker 1: if you become a distraction in the locker room, and

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Speaker 1: based on Cali's reporting, So it's like you traded for

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Speaker 2: Well, and the other thing is, listen, I do think

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Speaker 2: both admit can be snarky and dismissive. There are also

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Speaker 1: Not the same rule for every person.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's get out of that space completely. But

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Speaker 2: and I've said this before, Danny.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've done this.

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Speaker 2: I've worked at four or five radio stations, two networks,

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Speaker 2: He was weird, and it's like he didn't do anything illegal.

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Speaker 2: He just made people uncomfortable and it's like bye bye,

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Speaker 2: And companies have a right to do that. And so

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Speaker 2: you know, again this kind of perpetual victimhood. The Christians

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Speaker 2: people do say, well, the NBA is very anti Trump.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well it's very you know they are, But again,

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Speaker 2: Kerr and Popovich have sort of led a brigade on

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Speaker 2: their long term contract management position.

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Speaker 3: So that's the way the world works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, and I'm sure that there's plenty of owners

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Speaker 1: So I do not look at the Jaden Ivy situation

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Speaker 1: as a freedom of speech issue. No, it's not a freak,

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Speaker 1: you know. But so if that, if that, if that

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Speaker 1: and he's good, well, then twenty teams should be in

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Speaker 1: Sports are a meritocracy, ultimately, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy,

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Speaker 1: more so than politics, more more so than any other

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Speaker 1: Jaden Ivy has gotten to the point where the juice

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Speaker 1: don't I don't feel sorry for him. I looked at

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Speaker 1: root for and hard to continue to miss the playoffs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know another I mean, I worked for Fox.

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Speaker 2: They got rid of Tucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly because

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly was so inappropriate. You know, people were getting

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Speaker 2: Carlson did, I don't know if it rises to be illegal,

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Speaker 2: but it was certainly in appropriate his emails in the workplace.

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Speaker 2: So this idea he should sue the NBA. He had

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Speaker 2: Every company in any industry, public or private, can say

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Speaker 2: the Bulls did. Here's your guaranteed money. Good luck in

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Speaker 2: free agency. There's no lawsuit to be had. He's not

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Speaker 2: wasn't in He's not being sent to a jail. It's like, dude,

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Speaker 2: here's a check. Best of luck on the market.

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Speaker 2: Our league is growing faster than any other league, so

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Speaker 2: it's clearly tolerable for television and radio and screaming consumption. Well,

430
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Speaker 2: it's working. Well, why do we have to go full

431
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Speaker 2: time the other sports? I mean, you can't win an

432
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Speaker 2: NBA series without seventy five percent of the fans claiming

433
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: it's rigged. It's just an automatic. It's rigged. So my

434
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Speaker 2: take is the NFL is like, folks, we got part

435
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: time guys ninety nine percent, right, Our games don't take

436
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Speaker 2: thirty minutes for the last two and a half like

437
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Speaker 2: the NBA. We don't need an ABS system necessarily at

438
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Speaker 2: the you know, for our calls and it's working.

439
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: So so what's the point of us going full time?

440
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the listen to. The argument for going full time

441
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: is they have the money. That's that's probably the only argument.

442
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if ninety nine figure is correct. I

443
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: think that officiating has been damaged, like the public perception

444
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: of officiating has been damaged by HD television, Like we

445
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: have this ability to microscopics slow down, NBC it zoom,

446
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: and they can show us three replays immediately before the

447
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: next snap is done, and it's just totally and we're

448
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: debating it for forty five seconds, for a minute, for

449
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Speaker 1: a minute and a half on these replays, and then

450
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: the rules analysts will come on TV and be like

451
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Speaker 1: that should be overturned, and then the ref on the

452
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Speaker 1: field is like call stands, and we're like, what the

453
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Speaker 1: hell's going on? You know. So, like I think that's

454
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Speaker 1: why public opinion on refs is so much, is so

455
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: outiskewed with out of skew with the reality. I'll be like,

456
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: of course, they're very, very good, and umpiring is virtually impossible.

457
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: I had a hard time doing it for like college

458
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: age beer League baseball, when guys are hungover puking in

459
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Speaker 1: right field. I was an umpire for a couple of summers,

460
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is ridiculous, Like I am straight

461
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: up guessing as to what is a ball at a strike,

462
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Speaker 1: So I can't imagine doing it at that level. But

463
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Speaker 1: I just think that the the NFL is in such

464
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Speaker 1: a position where they're teflon whether they do it or don't,

465
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Speaker 1: replacement refs or not. And they know that they know

466
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Speaker 1: exactly exactly and they and and they know it, and

467
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: so I think that I think you are probably right

468
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: with the direction this goes. They win. They tend to

469
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: win labor standoffs with players, they'll win this one with

470
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: the refs like that. They are totally teflon. And I agree,

471
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: buy and large refs are better than we give them

472
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Speaker 1: credit for. But I love that ABS exists in baseball now.

473
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great.

474
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Speaker 1: I do love it.

475
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Speaker 2: It's a game, it's a game show, I get a

476
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Speaker 2: reveal in a studio audience.

477
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Speaker 1: It's great and it goes fast like it it's it

478
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: might be the best use of replay since tennis, where

479
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: like tennis is you know, tennis is just like in

480
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: out and it's instant and it's binary, like that's never

481
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: going to be topped. But just like the speed of it,

482
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: how infrequent it's used, the strategy behind, like do you

483
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: save this one or do you use it? Should it

484
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Speaker 1: be the pitcher, the catcher of the batter, like it's

485
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Speaker 1: the dugout, can't call for it. It's great. It's a

486
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: great ad for baseball.

487
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap it up by going hard rock

488
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: bet Yukon plus two and a half against Illinois, Michigan

489
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: minus one and a half against Arizona. Illinois is fascinating.

490
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: They went heavy into the European market and Brad Underwood

491
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: has built a team that is intentional, that is efficient,

492
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: that's got size. Paisis Stoyakovich's son. They got twins from

493
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: Croatia and an under recruited guard Wogler, who is just

494
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: unbelievable six six, impossible to defend at the college level.

495
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: I think they're a handful for Yukon. It's impossible to

496
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: me to not take the two and a half points

497
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: because Yukon is so good in the second half, and

498
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: they're just so built, because they're so physical, they wear

499
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: teams down. I think Illinois better. I've watched them now

500
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Speaker 2: play four times. I watched them twice in the regular season,

501
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: and I've watched them twice in the tournament. I think

502
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: Illinois better offensively. I think they have more weapons. I

503
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be really hard to defense. I don't

504
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 2: love Yukon's guards. You know, Tais Reeds obviously carried him

505
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: in the first half against Duke. He's an old school big.

506
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I'd probably I think Illinois is gonna win it, and

507
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a one or a two point game.

508
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: I would probably hard rock bet take Yukon and the points.

509
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: What say you? So you know it opened at a

510
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: smaller number than that, and so I and I thought

511
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: the sharp side was Illinois, and so I'd probably Like

512
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: if I had to bet it today, I was like, Well,

513
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: if I was willing to bet it at one or

514
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: one and a half and I had to bet it today,

515
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I'd bet it at two and a half. I have

516
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: some Yukon futures that I'm just gonna let ride, so

517
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: I won't be placing a bet. On the other side

518
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: of it, the argument I think for Yukon is their

519
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: coach is just much better, like like Brad Underwood has

520
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: done a very nice job of recruiting, but he is

521
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: not known for being a great like situational coach. They

522
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: were winless all of their overtime games this year. He's

523
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: not a good like you know, play like out of

524
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: bounce play coach, and so you know in the events

525
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: that Illinois gets out of sorts, like is he going

526
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: to be able to rein it in I was at

527
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: the game at the Garden when Yukon played Illinois this year.

528
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: Yukon destroyed them, but Woggler didn't play the fact that

529
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Speaker 1: Water could be is not going to be a top

530
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: five pick in this draft, I mean, shows how insane

531
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: the draft is. Like this joints.

532
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: It's I mean, bodies are at this point, and he

533
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: played well against Yukon, but you questioned his athletic ability.

534
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: Boozer could drop to seven. Seriously, Yeah, the draft.

535
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: Is ridiculous, and I think Illinois has the size where

536
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Terris Reid should not be dominant. Terris Reid is a

537
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: hilarious college basketball player. He's huge, He's a pretty good athlete.

538
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: He cannot go left like.

539
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: I don't understand he can't.

540
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: He passes a wide open left handed like and they

541
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: overguard his right shoulder. They it just it doesn't matter.

542
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: He just he can always get to a spot and

543
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: hit that little right handed baby hook. I'm like, force

544
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: him left. He can't do it, but it doesn't matter.

545
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: He still gives you twenty and ten. So yeah, I

546
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: think that Yukon is a is a dog. I don't

547
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: even really think this Yukon team is that good. I've

548
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: seen him because my nephew goes there, so I saw

549
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: him twice in the Big East Tournament and once in

550
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the regular season game in person, all at the Garden

551
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: against Illinois. But Brayln Mullins has been really good in

552
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: the past, he's been terrible in March, and it is

553
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: possible that that shot just unlocks him because he is

554
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: an NBA prospect as a shooter, so maybe he can

555
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: go off for Yukon. But yeah, I like I like

556
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Illinois in that spot and then Arizona Michigan to me

557
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: feels like the NFC Championship game. Yeah, yeah, where rams

558
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks was the real Super Bowl, right, I will be listen.

559
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: It's single elimination college basketball. Anyone can win on any

560
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: given day. But I would be pretty floored if the

561
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: left side of the bracket, the Illinois Yukon winner beat

562
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: the Arizona Michigan winner. Well, you know, I think that

563
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Arizona Michigan game is going to be all time.

564
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Well it's the Shaq Kobe team that beat the Blazers

565
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: in seven at Staples And you're like, everybody knew the

566
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: winner of that was going to be Indiana, Like it

567
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 2: wasn't you know? Dwick Smith's was in big trouble. I

568
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: will say this, I went to the United Center because

569
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to see Michigan in person. Yeah, it's the

570
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: best passing college team I've ever seen. Oh wow, I

571
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: think Mara di Mara was a defensive player at UCLA

572
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: scored five points a game. Now he's up to about

573
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: twelve points a game. And I asked Dusty May, the

574
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: coach off the air. We were talking before we went

575
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: on the air for about two minutes, and I said

576
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: I didn't know a dian Mara had an offensive game,

577
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: and he said he was a really good passer. Even

578
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: at UCLA, he just didn't score a lot because you know,

579
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: their guard play was really good.

580
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: But he has.

581
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: He's got it. I mean, he is really hard to defend.

582
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: First of all, he's a tremendous defensive player. So he

583
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: eliminates just he eliminates a lot.

584
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Of your ideas. It's like Wemby, like.

585
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: He's just eliminating even the pursuit of certain shots. But

586
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: he's a tremendous passer. And watching watching Michigan live, I

587
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: mean you can there's no question. If you go to

588
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: games live, it's just different. You see different things. Yeah,

589
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: like even in the NFL game, you don't even see

590
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: the safeties when the ball is snapped when you go

591
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: and then you go to a game and you watch

592
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: an Ed Reid and you're like, holy hell, he is everywhere.

593
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Or Earl Thomas for Seattle, or Nicki Minwara, if you're

594
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: a Seahawk fan, You're like, oh my god, he's so

595
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: much better in person that he is on television. Michigan

596
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: in person, it is wow. To do a twenty one

597
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: nothing run, I mean in the Elite eight on a

598
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: neutral floor is like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa that's playing,

599
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: that's playing, that's playing like a low end like the

600
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: three hundred and eighteenth rated team at home on a

601
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Saturday night on homecoming or something, you know what I mean,

602
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't even make sense. So I think Arizona's

603
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: got good guards. And between Michigan and Arizona, this is

604
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: why the NIL is great. We could have nine NBA

605
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: players that didn't exist. When when Duke and Butler played

606
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: in the final they shot under forty percent when Duke

607
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: and Yukon When when when Butler and Yukon did the

608
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: following year they shot thirty one percent.

609
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the worst games of all time.

610
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: But I mean but was unwatchable.

611
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: So the NIL. They did it to the Indiana Hoosiers

612
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: and the Miami Hurricanes. It used to be you'd have

613
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: to go to junior college to solve problems, and those

614
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: guys ne were academic issues. They weren't very good against

615
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: the competition at the JUCO. Now we got we need

616
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: a corner and you go buy Georgia's like, so you

617
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: get these college teams like Indiana didn't have a weakness.

618
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: They were literally.

619
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: Good too, great everywhere everywhere, even Nick Saban's teams. You'd

620
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: be like, they're not very good on the old line.

621
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: They've got a bad right tackle.

622
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: You know.

623
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: Their safeties are a little physical, but they can't run.

624
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: So I mean, I look at Michigan and I'm like,

625
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: I guess they don't have great guard play, but passing

626
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: shooting threes, size, they may have the best player, the

627
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: actual Lendenborg, I'll take Michigan.

628
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think it's very close. Arizona's depth is impressive.

629
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: They just they don't they don't make mistakes. You mentioned

630
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: the size for Michigan though, That's the thing that jumps

631
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: off for me. They're all huge. Yeah, every player is gigantic.

632
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: So every guard is six', five every wing is six.'

633
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: nine but they've got multiple dudes it's like six eleven seven.

634
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: To two like they're, just huge and so that tends

635
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: to be a fairly overwhelming thing in. College basketball they

636
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: were might pick before, the TOURNAMENT so i stick. With

637
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: THEM but i do think it IS a i do

638
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: think that game is a is a legitimate. Coin flip

639
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: as someone who said after the opening weekend of the

640
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Tournament that cinderella was dead and that they've taken some

641
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: of the madness Out. Of march allow me this opportunity

642
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: to say these games, have delivered because that was. MY

643
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: thing i, was, like listen if you're gonna give me

644
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: twenty point BLOWOUTS and i Can't, get cinderella and which

645
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: is what the tournament was. Built on in terms of.

646
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Its popularity my whole thing, was, like okay But then

647
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: Elite eight final four, title game when, it's like basically

648
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: it's one game on at. A time i don't want

649
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: to be watching blowouts because. It's right if you have a,

650
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: blowout early but there's four games on, it once it.

651
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter oh the GAME on tbs is, A blowout

652
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: i'll lock In ON. True Tv true TV's, A blowout

653
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: let's go OVER. To cbs and like the beauty of

654
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: the first four days is sixty four down to sixteen

655
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: forty eight single elimination games in a condensed period. Of

656
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: time it's JUST. Awesome TV and i did think that

657
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: the opening weekend was lacking because of the margin of

658
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: victory and the last.

659
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: Up sets the end is now much better than. The,

660
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: Beginning correct and.

661
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: It used to be a tournament that got worse as it,

662
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: went along because you would See a cinderella and then

663
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: they would be in a standalone window and then they

664
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: would get Destroyed By north carolina and you'd, be, like,

665
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: oh well that wasn't a Very fun elite eight game,

666
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: or whatever AND so i, was, like oh it's still.

667
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: College BASKETBALL so i was a little concerned that we

668
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: were going to, get blowouts, poor play whatever the case.

669
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: May be and we got one. Or two but the

670
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: second weekend was, so great And this final four. SHOULD be,

671
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I Mean ken pomroy says that this is The greatest

672
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: final four matchup ever based on. His Rating between Arizona,

673
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: and michigan two highest rated teams to meet in a,

674
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: Final fever, it's, like Okay, Well bett i'm In On

675
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: matt and then You Got, dan hurley who's going for

676
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: three titles in, four years first program to have to

677
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: do That Since john WOODEN, And, ucla, Like okay i'm here.

678
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: For that And then illinois is a, wildly talented high

679
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: end offensive team that can score. Ninety points like. It's great.

680
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: It's great it's like if you RAN a tv network

681
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: and nobody was. Under contract that's what college. Basketball is and, you're,

682
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: like oh we could Really use Mike and tony after

683
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: your Show With nick Wright And Chris bruce Hard And,

684
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: kevin wilde and you could just go. Buy Them the murdocks,

685
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: would go let's just go ride. A check, All right

686
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Mike and tony's on. Our, team well that fills. A

687
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: hole that's a really good. Half hour and then You're LIKE. Steven,

688
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: a smith you want to do an hour and a

689
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: half two hours in. THE morning i got, no contract,

690
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: all right we'll fill. That hole that's what. It is

691
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: you you every programming network you. Have holes, you're, like

692
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: oh we'd like to, hire somebody but they're. Under contract THAT'S.

693
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: The nba college basketball now is like IF the nba

694
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: you could trade anybody at any time and there were.

695
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: NO contracts, I.

696
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Mean, michigan's like, you know we're, really good but we

697
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: could use a. RIM protector ucla will, take yours and

698
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: we could use a, really dominant older physical player kind of,

699
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: you know a six' nine two forty. Runs, the floor

700
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: oh Let's go get yaxel lendenboy who would have gone

701
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: pro if not. For an il So it's like, michigan

702
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: is good and It's just like it's just remarkable. In

703
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: college sports now it is pro sports. With no contracts

704
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: you could JUST go, get i mean can you imagine

705
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: if you Know you're a bears fan, and, you're like

706
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: man we could use an we could really use. An

707
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: edge rusher and it was you could get, any single player,

708
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: not by trading just. Go buy him and if he

709
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: liked the contract and he would come and Play for.

710
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: The bears, at rushed end.

711
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: It would it would it, would be wild it would

712
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: be it. WOULD be exciting i don't think the leagues would,

713
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: Go for it.

714
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: But you don't think the billionaires? Would, LIKE that yeah

715
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: i don't think they.

716
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Would love it i'm gonna give you a two hundred

717
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: million dollar contract that you can get out of. WHENEVER

718
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: you want i don't think they'd sign. Up for, it

719
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was it and it it is, a

720
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: singular thing like college basketball is a like it was

721
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of the ONLY place where Vcu, Could beat duke and.

722
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Now that's IMPOSSIBLE and so i do have to mourn

723
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: that a little bit because you're not. Gonna you can't

724
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: THE equivalent of vcu doesn't EXIST. In The Nfl In.

725
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Major league, baseball you know the pirates can do it,

726
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: for a game but they're not gonna do it over

727
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: one sixty two. To get there the inequality. Is too

728
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: big so. Like it's gone but if we keep getting final,

729
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Fours like this i'm Gonna forget About Loyola and florida atlantic.

730
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: Pretty Damn Quick.

731
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: Danny, PARKINS tiger, woods Nfl reps, the final Four And the,

732
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: jaden ivy story which is it's interesting whenever there's. A controversial,

733
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: STORY you know I knew when i did, the story, today.

734
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: You know.

735
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: YOU get feedback i, don't FOLLOW it but i got

736
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: so much feedback from friends and people around pro sports

737
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: that reached. Out TO me but i want to end it.

738
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: With a story back in, NINETEEN eighty six i got

739
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: out OF college and i got A Job in las

740
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: vegas doing one inning of play by play. And then

741
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: sales and so My Boss, was larry kentup who. Has

742
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: passed away he hired Me At the. BASEBALL winter meetings

743
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: i was like eight credit shy. OF a degree i

744
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: Went To The baseball winter MEETINGS in, my amc pacer

745
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: which eventually caught fire in A, freeway IN vegas and

746
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: i left college eight credit shy because they offered me

747
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: an inning of play by. Play AND sales and i

748
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: was TWENTY two and I thought triple a baseball inning

749
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: of Play By play TROT pottery's. Triple a affiliate, my mom's

750
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: like you should probably. Go for it This sounds like

751
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: i'm listening. To my son you should righte. Go FOR

752
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: it so i drove down there. To The job so

753
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: i'm there like a month, and a, half two months

754
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: and the desert in was, this really Ritchy Old school

755
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: las vegas casino with an. Amazing golf course now the,

756
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: wind is there so the desert in Was Swanky and

757
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: larry kentop was a great golfer and he had. A

758
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: membership there so about a week, into my, job, he's

759
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: like hey let me take you to lunch and introduce you.

760
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: To some people and IT was like i could, see the,

761
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: money you know, handkerchiefs, and. Suits necklaces rolexes. Everybody was

762
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 2: tan it was just like The richest room i'd. Ever

763
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 2: been in I'm From. Rural washington state and as we're,

764
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: LEAVING after lunch i EVEN remember. WHAT i ordered i ordered.

765
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: A tuna melt i'd. Never had one. IT sounded, good i.

766
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: MEAN you know I just literally i. REMEMBER the day i.

767
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: Remember the Moment and, As i'm leaving larry introduces me

768
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: to a guy who, just looks rich, and he, says,

769
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: he goes oh this is, My golfing partner bob So

770
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: and so colin wants to, be a sportscaster, and, he, goes,

771
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: OH well listen i don't know, much about it, but

772
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: he said don't talk. Politics Or religion, and, i'm like

773
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: yeah that kind, of you know, to this day that's.

774
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: Kind of.

775
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: It in sports you CAN talk some i guess you.

776
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: Can take stands we've, seen that historically.

777
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: But it does.

778
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: Hold mostly true politics and, religion in sports it, can

779
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: be dicey it. Can be difficult now there are different.

780
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Rules for status lebron, can do. It OTHERS can't but

781
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: i just remembered that Moment when The jade and. Ivy

782
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: came down it's like even, to some, things you know

783
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: treat others like you want. To be treated you know

784
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: that book everything you learn you. LEARN in kindergarten i. Remember,

785
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: that moment kid don't talk politics or. Sports, or politics

786
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: kid don't talk politics or. Religion in sports.

787
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: You'll have.

788
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: A GREAT career And, i thought jaden you're not good.

789
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: Enough to preach.

790
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: And now your tan and have, a nice watch and

791
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: now you know the rest. Of, the, story, Yeah yeah

792
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: yeah And you've followed bob such and such after your

793
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: tune them out and now here we, Are, all right,

794
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: Danny Great, stuff doctor. Colin thank you.

795
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: Shoot your shot get paid double Only On.

796
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet hard Rock bet is florida's only legal

797
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: way TO bet, the, nba teams players.

798
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: Points and.

799
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: More he's gone and when you sign Up For, hard

800
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: rock bet your BET's.

801
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: Paid double winnings don't just, count a basket. Count it

802
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: twice he's.

803
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: On, fire now yes your customers get paid double on your.

804
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: First ten Bets Try hard.

805
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: Rock bet today max bet of fifty dollars per bet

806
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: Offered By the Seminal.

807
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Tribe of florida must be twenty one plus and Physically

808
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: present in. Florida to wager terms. And conditions applying if

809
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: you were someone you know has, a gambling problem he

810
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: IS called one A three three playwise