1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. Hey, good Thursday morning to you, and 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: this is Talking Cowboys as we are getting closer and 7 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: closer to that home opener on Sunday night against the 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, and we got a big show 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: lined up for you for the next hours. We'll be 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: joined by John Schmelkov Giants dot Com and go behind 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: enemy lines and get the lowdown on what these Giants 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: feature this year. A battle of two oh and one teams. 13 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Something's got to give on Sunday night, right, gentlemen, absolutely, 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: because you don't want to be oh and two. That's 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: exactly right. What's the percentage if you finish oh or 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: if you start the season oh and two of making 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs? Well, let me tell you I got that 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Spags go saw it in the New York Daily News. 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Only twenty eight of two hundred and thirty one teams 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: that have started oh and two have made the playoffs 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight of two hundred and thirty one. Yes, you 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: have the percentage on that. I didn't do that. I 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: got it, I got it. I want to do it. 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Twenty eight divided by two thirty one. What do you got? 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Twelve percent? Twelve point one percent. So this is a 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: must win game. Huh. Basically both teams as online as 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Brian would say, they're all must win, especially this one. 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna come around on my thinking on that. 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: But did I not say that on the Happy Hour show? 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: After I put you in a headlock? You weren't on 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: the air. What are you talking off? Off the air? 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: I put you in ahead? But you know why. But 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: you know why it's a must win because if you 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: start oh and two, it's pretty good signal that you're 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: not very good. Right. It's not that you can't recover 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: from you're just not good enough. New coaches were owing seven. 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: That means their teams weren't very good. Yeah. Yeah, that's 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: why they new coaches because the team they inherited was 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: bad enough to get the other guy fired. Yeah, there 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: you go. It's fair. I just it's a fair point. 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: I just you know, it's a division game too. You 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: got to think about that. You know, a division game. 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: You lose a division game at home, that's like losing two, 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: especially against the team that may be considered number four 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: out of four on paper for the season. Three and 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: I had him as a possible flip two with Dallas. Yeah, 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I had a week. Remember we did this whole thing. 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: We went through all the different scenarios and we said, oh, 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: well we're not. We had Washington, that's right, we had 50 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Washington's last we had that's right. Giants toe, Yeah, Giants 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: Dallas flip And I think I said that flip two 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: three on Dallas and the Giants here. Yeah. You can't. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: You can't go too to start this thing, You really can't. 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: I think I had so many questions to after what 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: the O one got you, you know, you better figure 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: some things out. And for some of us who picked 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win the division, that would be the 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: two gentlemen on this side side of the table, it 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: becomes more much more of a must win situation. Twelve 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: percent chance. You're how many go in there and explain 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: it to them. Maybe you should give the pregame speech, Mack. Yeah. 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: While the other side of the table, Bayan and Rob 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Vick pick Philly by the way, just to review our 64 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: picks from last week. Ye all right, what's on your mind? 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Brian brought us as we approach another practice day here 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: at the Star getting set for this one. You know what, 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I think that you have to figure out. You go back, 68 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: you look at the tape. You figured out what you 69 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: were good at. You know there were some things they 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: were good at. You have to look at the things 71 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: that you were poor at. You have to say, Okay, 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: what are the matchups that we can look at with 73 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: the Giants? Is there things we can take advantage of. 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants defensively without Olivier Vernon, and 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's gonna play. And I guaranteed Minael, Yeah, 76 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: we asked John. John's gonna say he's probably not gonna play. 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: But I will say though that the Giants do have 78 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: a better secondary than Carolina. But you're gonna have to 79 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: figure out a ways if the Cowboy receivers are able 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: to get open against Carolina, this will be a very 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: good test for them to see if they can get 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: open against a second I think, but I don't think 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: the Giants had the pass rush that Carolina does, I 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: don't think they had that without, especially without Olivier Vernon. 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: That's in my mind right now. How do you take 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: advantage of this some of the things you can do 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: well in this game? Focus on those, get those plays 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: that you can hang your hat on, and then try 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and stay ahead of the chains. That's going to be 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: really the most important thing, because this offense can't function 91 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: when it's behind the chains. They need to run the 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: ball better and more consistently. I mean, the running game 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: didn't get going until what this second half way through 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: the third Quarter's gonna be tough with Landon Collins sitting 95 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: down there, and that's fine, that's fine, but you got 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get Zeke going and 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: get him going early, and do a better job blocking 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: and if they want to stuff the line of scrimmaged 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: and you better be able to protect the quarterback so 100 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: you can take advantages of some one on one situations. 101 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I think defensively, if you look at the matchups for Dallas, 102 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to do what they did a 103 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: little bit of or quite a bit of, and let's 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: get pressure from Carolina. They can do that again this week. 105 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: The Giants have weapons offensively, but they still even remaking 106 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: their line. Now, they played a really good defense last week, 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: maybe the best in the league, but very fast defense. Yeah, 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: but they struggle to protect Elie and I know he 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: gets the ball out quick. But you have weapons out there, 110 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: Odell say Quon, but if you can't protect the quarterback, 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you over sixty minutes. And I think 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: that's an opportunity. Now there's a flip side of that. 113 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: They've got to tackle a hell of a lot better 114 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: than they did last week. Yeah, because Barkley showed even 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: though he really made one big play in the game 116 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: that kept New York in the game. I would hope 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: that Shaun Lee comes out today and says, if we 118 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: can stop Barkley, we can we can beat the Giants, 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: because it really on the flip side. You look at 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Manning and he sure he's might, he's won a couple 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls and all that, but you blitz him, 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: you get his eye level down, you put pressure on him. 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: He will throw the ball up, he will miss throws 124 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: because of pressure. But you've got to get to him. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: You can't sit there and you got to take advantage 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: of Flowers, and even Nate Solder wasn't very good. And 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: Rob's right, Jacksonville's got a good, speedy defense. But the 128 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys are capable of putting pressure on this giant, on 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: this giant offensive line, which will affect the way the 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: quarterback play. The line is almost exactly totally different than 131 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: it was last year. Flowers is kind of the main 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: holdover right tack. He's the worst one. He gave up 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: seven pressures. I had seven pressures against him last week 134 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: in a sack. Tried to trip the first play of 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: the game. Looky, they didn't get a safety. They're in 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: their own end zone and a half. Yeah, he trips 137 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: the guy. I mean he's totally out of body position, 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: balances all. That's terrible and he tries to up the 139 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: guy and it's an easy call. Seven pressures. Yes, according 140 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: to your favorite website. I think that's being kind based 141 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 1: on your all twenty two assessment. Yes, they watching the game. 142 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I didn't need all twenty two on. All I need 143 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: is the box. They he was terrible, they got problems. 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Solder was problem. Remember they're starting a rookie too, a guard. Yeah, 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: will Nandez he's a good one, but but he gave 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: up a sack. Yeah, so quitness gets him. You know, 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: cowboys with that undertackle, the ability to play with some 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: quickness inside. That'll be a problem for those guys. Because 149 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: there's a reason why, you know, Barkley had seventeen carries 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: for what thirty seven thirty seven yards and then one 151 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: for sixty eight. And there was also a reason why 152 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior caught eleven passes but he averaged ten 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: yards a catch. Didn't have time to get him down 154 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: the field what they started doing all the underneath stuff. Yeah, 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: they missed him one time though, and that's because Manning 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: got pressure. I mean he yeah, it was it was like, 157 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: oh geez, and you know that's what she's got to fear. 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: I think that when the matchups I wrote about today 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: was a woozyer and you can even throw Byron Jones 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: in this. I think you're gonna have to play with 161 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Odell beck and play physical on the line with him. 162 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: He looks like he's okay as far as the movement, 163 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the quickness and all that stuff, but you have to 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: beat him up at the line of scrimmage. You cannot 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: allow him to get in routes. I mean because if 166 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: you beat him up, it affects the way that Manning 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: throws the ball. Because Manning doesn't have enough time to 168 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: sit there and wait for him to separate. He's got 169 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, and he did that. They one 170 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: time they brought they brought safety blitz, but they called 171 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: zero coverage with no safety in the middle of the field. 172 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: They brought a blitz down there and Beckham just ran 173 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: an arrow route and Manning didn't have enough time, and 174 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: he tried. He just tried to throw it in his direction. 175 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: He was a good twelve yards off. So you can 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: affect the way that you can affect the quarterback, which 177 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: affects the receiver. But you got to affect the receiver 178 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: by being physical with him because if you give him 179 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: free access in route, he will kill you. I got 180 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: a new, a new stat dear buddies over there at 181 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: that whatever focus thing need to kill up. Even the 182 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: dame he doesn't know it. I don't pro football focus. 183 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't blame him. One of their one of their 184 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: field goal drives, there was two pis on Odell Beckham Junior. Yes, 185 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: for forty yards. They only drove like sixty two forty 186 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: of the yards were two one on Barry Church and 187 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: one on Ramsey, So I think they need to put 188 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: him the wide receiver stat thing. It's like PI, if 189 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I earned that many yards on a on a pass interference, 190 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: then I should get credit for that because on both 191 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: of them it was gonna be a big place. Especially 192 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how they isolated him on Barry Church, 193 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: which is totally unfair, but he had to grab on otherwise. 194 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: You gamble, you gamble, you're gonna get somebody home before 195 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: the ball gets off. That's your that's your gamble. That's 196 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: that one. Okay, we're just gonna we're gonna sell out 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: on this one particular play. And it's like when Rod 198 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Marinelli brings linebackers or safeties or slot blitz and he drops, 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, Crawford and coverage and Crawford's trying to run 200 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: with a running back or something. That's just never a 201 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: good never a good look. You know about what you're 202 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: talking about with an out anyone whether it's us or 203 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: an outside company or whatever that are grading coaches film 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: when you don't know what the assignment is hard. With 205 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the players, it's are difficult to put a grade. On 206 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: what that player. There used to be a time where 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: they used to not use They used to do it 208 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: off TV copy. Oh wow, so well, and they made 209 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money doing it. And I questioned the 210 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: guy one time, I did an interview with him, and 211 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you evaluate players off TV copy? 212 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: And it goes to the point of what Mickey saying. 213 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: If you're doing offensive defensive lineman, I'm okay with you 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: doing that all day because I think you can kind 215 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: of get something out at a feel for Yeah. But 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: but other than that, I mean, I go back. When 217 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I go back and I do, like say the Scouts 218 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: Scouts Scott Notebook. After a game, I'm watching the TV games, 219 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to kind of pick some things that it 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: caught my eyes. You can see on and then, but 221 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: you don't try and get into any exces and those things, 222 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: because you know, I have the opportunity to come back. Yeah, 223 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: I come back and watch the All twenty two. You 224 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: at least have a little bit better idea. But you're 225 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: right when you don't know the assignment, that's that's where 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: you have to that's where you have to go with it. 227 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: I got a question on those lines for you after this. 228 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: But right now, let's check in with someone who has 229 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: been covering the New York Giants, not as long as 230 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Mickey is covering. Very good John, don't let them do 231 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: that too yet. John Schmell Giants dot Com, welcome to talking. 232 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Hey boys, what's going on? Guys? Then it's funny based 233 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: on what you guys were just saying, I heard the 234 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: telling your conversation. To Brian's point, I was trying to 235 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: figure out on the play with the Giants and Jaguars 236 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: last week on being complete class Odell Beckham in the 237 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: end zone who messed up the blitz pickoff? And I 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: had three different ideas of who it could have been. 239 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Until I talked to the head coach, it was neither 240 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: one of the three guys that I thought messed up 241 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: at actually picked up. So you're right, until you talk 242 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: to the coaches, you really don't know what's going on 243 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: with a lot of this stuff, all right, So give 244 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: us an overview first of this Giants team coming into 245 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: at and T Stadium on Sunday. Well, disappointing first week loss, 246 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: but it was against a very good team, and I 247 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: think the Giants and Cowboys. I was just talking to 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: one of my colleagues over here in very similar situations. 249 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Did the first week loss happen because there are real 250 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: serious long term problems for the Giants on the offensive line. 251 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: Or is it just the fact that they were playing 252 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: a really, really good defensive front in the Jaguars and 253 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: it's Week one. Maybe they just happen to have a 254 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: particular bad week against a good team. So if there's 255 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: one big topic of conversation in New York this week, 256 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: it's the Giants offensive line. I think they were generally 257 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: happy with the way the defense played. Saquon Barkley had 258 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: the big run, So that's really where the focus is 259 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: right now. Sounds familiar, John, because that's kind of what 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: we've been looking at as the offensive line. Here is 261 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: an ability to protect Dak and to keep him clean 262 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: and not get behind the change. Why do you say that, Mickey, 263 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: Because I read John's recap of the game, the Giants game, 264 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: and I thought that you could you could just change 265 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Giants to Cowboys, that it felt like this not the 266 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: same thing with the Cowboys. So from an injury standpoint, 267 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: John Olivier Verdon looks like he hasn't been practice. Does 268 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: he have hope to get back. You think, yeah, Look, 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: he was actually outside with the team yesterday on the 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: side with the trainers, which is something he was not 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: able to do next week, so he has kind of 272 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: taken that next mini step. But look, this is a 273 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain, and this is a guy who last 274 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: year tried to play on an injury like that and 275 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: he was basically a shell of himself the whole year. 276 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: So my guess is that they're probably going to try 277 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more cautious get him back 278 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: at h so when he does get back, he can 279 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: be that dynamic pass rusher that he has the ability 280 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: to be. I'm sure Vernon will try to convince them 281 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: to let him play, but if we don't see him 282 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: practice at least in a limited basis, either today or tomorrow, 283 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: I think the chances are slim and that kind of 284 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: hurts their I mean needless to say, right their overall 285 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: pass rush without him out there, Oh it kills him, 286 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: they don't. He is by far their most dynamic pass rusher. 287 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: Connor Ballin's a veteran, he knows what he's doing. He's 288 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: a technique guy. He's good, got a little inside spin move, 289 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: that strong. Lorenzo Carter is a great athlete, but he 290 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: really hasn't, you know, figured out how to rush the 291 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: passer on the NFL level quite yet. So Yeah, without Vernon, 292 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: they don't have that guy that you have to worry 293 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: about winning one on one. Hey, Johnny mentioned the offensive line, 294 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and it's a really largely remade group from last season. 295 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: What's the general feeling about it after game one? And 296 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: is the feeling that Quon can kind of cover up 297 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: some of those issues or potential issues that they have 298 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: up front? It's concerned, um, And you're right, it's a 299 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: completely different group from last year. Now one player is 300 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: in the same position they were playing in last year, 301 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: and four players are completely new. John how Appeal, I 302 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: think played in a couple of games into last year, 303 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: but he's pretty much a new player as well. And 304 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers had the most was at right tackle. He 305 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: got beat inside a few times, but at the same time, 306 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: there were issues all along the line. Will Hernandez, their 307 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: second round pick, got beat a couple of times, Made Solar, 308 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the big free agent pickup, got beat a couple of times. 309 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Patrick omame their right guarden, and how Appeal, their center 310 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: had their issues too, So overall it was just a 311 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: poor game for them. If they would have protected a 312 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: little bit more that Eli Manning would have had the 313 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to make a few more plays down the field, 314 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: the Giants probably would have won the football game. As 315 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: for Barkley, his numbers got skewed a lot by that 316 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: one big run for sixty eight yards. Other than that, 317 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I think yeah, only average around two two point two 318 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: yards per carry. And I was actually listening to one 319 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: of your Guys shows the other day and Brian made 320 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the comparison that Barkley kind of runs like Barry Sanders, 321 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's absolutely correct. And that's kind of 322 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: the comparison I made coming out of the draft, where 323 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: he'll go one yard negative two, negative three one and 324 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: then boom fifty or boom twenty. So right now he's 325 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: a boom or bus guy. He doesn't like luring his 326 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: pads to get that dirty two three yard run off 327 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: the middle. He's going to try to bounce and make 328 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: a big play, and I think that's right now what 329 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: he is. Well, John Tabe, I feel good when you're 330 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: saying I'm actually right about a guy. Be careful with that. No, 331 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: you're the best when you do that. But John, Hey, 332 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you too about the comments that 333 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Landing Collins makes and is this more of a challenge. 334 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,239 Speaker 1: Was Landing Collins challenging really through the media his teammates 335 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: or is this something that you're kind of as you 336 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: walk through the locker room there that the giants. Is 337 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: this something the coaching staff is or other players repeating 338 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: what Landing Collins is saying about if you stop Ezekiel Eli, 339 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: you have a better chance of winning the game. I mean, look, 340 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any surprise that the scouting report 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys you stop Ezekiel Eli, you turn 342 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: them into a passing team. You got a good chance 343 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: of winning, right. I don't think Landon Collins was trying 344 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: to make any headlines. But do I think that's what 345 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is telling the players? Absolutely? And I 346 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: think I went back. I think Dak Prescott has thrown 347 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: for two hundred and fifty yards once since the last 348 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 1: twelve starts or thirteen starts something like that. Sure, so 349 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the game plan. You stop the run, 350 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: You try to put Dallas in third and long where 351 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: you know that's not where they're at their best and 352 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: you go from there. So yeah, I mean I think 353 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: that's what the defensive game plan has no doubt about it. Well, John, 354 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: how is okay the team? This team has a great history. 355 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: You're playing three four defense, three four front. How are 356 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: they adapting now? For so many years playing the four 357 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: to three now they're back in that three four front. 358 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: The type of personnel? Did they feel better about the 359 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: guys that they got to play the three four defense? 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: It all starts really with Harrison inside, and then we've 361 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: talked about Collins, But overall, how do they feel like 362 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: the scheme has looked so far? You know, it's funny 363 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: that was a huge storyline in the off season, and 364 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of conversations with defensive coordinator James 365 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: Betcher about it. And this is not your traditional nineteen 366 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: eighties two gapping three four scheme, right. Yeah. He likes 367 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: the one gap out of the three four, which is 368 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: very uncommon. He wants his guys to use their quickness 369 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: and athleticism to get up the field and penetrate. They're 370 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: not just trying to occupy blockers. So for that reason, 371 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: I think that transition's been pretty smooth. Their interior defensive 372 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: linemen are very, very good. They have three guys that 373 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: are starting in their three four base defense that played 374 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the one technique in college from time to time. Dalvin 375 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: Thomlinson in Alabama. Right they drafted DJ Hill this year. 376 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: He's more of a three, but he did play the 377 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: one in college. He stops to run well, and then you, 378 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: I think is the best run stopping defensive lineman in 379 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: the league in Snacks Harrison. So you do not want 380 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: to try to run up the middle against these guys. 381 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: It's not going to work. Where they struggle in the 382 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: week one was on the edge when Leonard Fournette was 383 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: healthy in the first half. Once you went out of 384 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: the game, the Jaguars are trouble moving the ball with 385 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: the run game. But if you're going to have success, 386 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I think you better attack the edge. Ah, John, you 387 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: just stole my next question because I noticed that when 388 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Fournette was in there, they were able to get to 389 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: the edge in that running game. Jacksonville was, but when 390 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: he went out, they shut down yelled in because that 391 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: seemed like they just wanted yelled in going up the middle, 392 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: which I mean that seems counterproductive, especially how big and strong. 393 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Those front three guys are right up the middle. Yeah, absolutely, Look, 394 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: you want to make these guys move. And I think 395 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the other thing you look at too, if you're attacking 396 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: the Giant defense is their strength against the pass or 397 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: they're two outside corners Genors Jenks and Neil Apple. They 398 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: are legitimately good cover corners. And Jane Betche's gonna run 399 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot of cover one. He's gonna run a lot 400 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: of single high cover three. And those guys are going 401 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: to be very, very aggressive on the perimeter. They're gonna 402 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: try to jump routes, They're gonna be all over those curls, 403 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: those those comebacks and things like that. You're gonna have 404 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: to challenge them and beat them over the top to 405 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: loosen them up a little bit to start throwing that 406 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: short stuff. Was that sort of a renaissance performance by Apple. 407 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that we thought, you know, I don't 408 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: know how engaged he was, but he sure looked awfully 409 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: good in that game. Yeah, and I think that was big. 410 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: You know, Ela Apple, he was a big source of 411 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: concern last season, but when Pat Schermer got here, he 412 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: kind of gave everybody a bit of a fresh start. 413 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: And Eli Apple was number one on that list there, 414 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Flowers was probably number two. Flower did not take advantage 415 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: of that in Week one, but it looks like Ela 416 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Apple to me did. He played a very good game. 417 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: He was targeted a few times, really didn't give the 418 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: opposing receiver any room to breathe. And he's a guy 419 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: that I want to see react when he gets beat. 420 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to be good when you're stopping guys, 421 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: but mentally for him, if he is a bad game 422 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: and people start questioning you again, I want to see 423 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: how we react to that. I think that'll be a 424 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: big key for him this year. John will the final 425 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: question before we let you run you. We know you 426 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: got a thing to do for your team. But Odell 427 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: Beckham everything about him positive coming out. I mean the 428 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: yards per catch. They missed him a couple of different 429 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: times from what I saw on tape, but overall, the health, 430 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: everything about it, attitude good going forward here. He was 431 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: a different guy this offseason, and I've been critical with 432 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: him in the past. I think he's been very immature. 433 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: He's made a lot of you know, just decisions of 434 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid or a nineteen year old kid. 435 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Would make. But he did everything right this offseason. I 436 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: mean he really did. If he didn't show up for 437 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: voluntary workouts and in mini camp and training camp, and 438 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: remember he didn't show up for voluntary stuff the two 439 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: years prior to this. This year, knowing he wanted the extension, 440 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: he decided to take the tact of I'm going to 441 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: show the Giants I want to be a serious football 442 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: player and this is the most important thing to me, 443 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna act like a professional. And the Giants 444 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: rewarded him by giving him a contract. And I think ideally, 445 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: when you have teams and a player, that's how you 446 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: wanted to go. And I see no that ankle injury 447 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: that kind of took football away from him last year, 448 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: I think really kind of rang a bell for him 449 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. And he has been a pleasure to 450 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: deal with all offseason. And I think that the arrows 451 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: really pointed up. He has a good bond with Pat Shermer, 452 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, it would better than even I 453 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: could have imagined when this team left Tire on the 454 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: first day of January last year. And it's it's been very, 455 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: very good. And I got about three more minutes if 456 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: you guys want to use it, by the way, it's 457 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: up to you. Yeah. Absolutely, well, Mickey stole my question 458 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: about Apple. John, I was gonna ask you, we're debating 459 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: must win this week, and we looked up to the 460 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: percentages when you start O and two. Is that a 461 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: topic of conversation up there in New York this week? Absolutely. 462 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: Landon Collins has actually asked this yesterday and he said, look, Owen, 463 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: two's a big hole and neither one of these teams 464 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: want to be in it. So you know, it's John's Cowboys. 465 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be pumped up at Psyche that you guys 466 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: home open. Everyone's gonna be into the game. But ten 467 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: percent chance of making the plaza I think right when 468 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: you start on two something like that, So twelve percent. 469 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very important game. Hey, John, I'm 470 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you an LSU man normally doesn't agree with 471 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: an Alabama man. But that's a smart Alabama man you 472 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: have in that locker room here, because I preached that 473 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: all the time about must wins, and these guys look 474 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: at me like I'm an idiot here. That's not true. 475 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: But whatever, it sounds good, John, making you have a 476 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: parting question good, I'm good for I'm good with him. 477 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: We'll let him run and John, I'll talk to you tomorrow. 478 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: Sounds good, Nick, I appreciate it. Guys, always good to 479 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: join you. Thanks, John, appreciate you. John Schmelk Giants dot com. 480 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: Of course, Eli Manning has his autograph on the walls 481 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: there and the Giants locker room. Maybe John Schmelk is 482 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: John not the best. He is. He's really honest, which 483 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: is sometimes you talk to people and they're like, very 484 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: I know, I did radio one time in Denver. This 485 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: is last year, and those guys where it's just those 486 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: are your favorite guys. Yeah, you know me and Denver. 487 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: John's my favorite guy at the combine, by the way. Yeah, 488 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: because we we we always need something from the Giants. 489 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, John, you gotta e that guerrilla tape. 490 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, sure he's got like got something left behind, 491 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: banners falling down. Yeah, our banner's falling down. 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I heard you're a promo two for 554 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: the Ohio State TCU game by Yeah, good job, yeah, 555 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: I didn't realize the professional radio voice man. Well, I 556 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: did not realize that. I emphasized the the on the 557 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Ohio State University. They loved it. They love that when 558 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: you do that, they see they get Bill to do 559 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: that and ask us, I'm not going to talk about 560 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: TCU or Ohio State in any glowing terms. Yeah, that's right, 561 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Well we should. It was a script. So an Oklahoma 562 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: man right followed the script. You guess who I saw 563 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: this morning? I told Rob before the show. I saw 564 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: one Jason Witton this morning. Ye out here at No 565 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: he was at Central Market. Actually you were shopping that 566 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: early in the morning. Well, actually my wife had a 567 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: town still no, getting some excellent meals, pre made meals. 568 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, if you must know, every Thursday morning, I'm 569 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: involved in a group of Bible study I remember at 570 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: Central Market in soft Lake and um and actually Pat 571 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: summer All was part of Erica way back. We started 572 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: it like in two thousand and five, and I did 573 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: it at the grocery store. Yeah, there's cafe at the 574 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: Ali Ranch though, well that was a different one. It 575 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: was different group, but anyway, Pat was involved in that one. 576 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, so one of the guys came back and 577 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: told me that Witton was in the store, and so 578 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: I went and found him, and he talked my ear 579 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: off about Monday night football. So I did. I got 580 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: no Bible study at this morning. It was the Gospel 581 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: according to Jason Monday. But I brought him back there 582 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: and introduced him to the game, like looking at the 583 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: fig muttons trying to get away, like oh, the apple one, 584 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: the strawberry ones. But one of the interesting things that 585 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: Jason said was, you know, he did the Raiders game 586 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: Monday night, and John Gruden apparently after the game went 587 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: and watch the TV copy of the game and then 588 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: called him and complimented on some stuff, but also gave 589 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: him some tips on some certain stuff, you know. And 590 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: of course he coached Booger McFarland and so that dynamic 591 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: and kind of gave him some tips on how to 592 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: handle the three man booth when the third guys on 593 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: the sideline. And they're just interesting right here and wouldn't 594 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. He is, he's so excited about what 595 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: he's doing and enjoy himself. You challenge for him. He 596 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: always He's always been a guy wh's challenged himself to 597 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: do things. So then he's asking me about this team, 598 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: and he had some thoughts on this team that we're interesting. Yea, 599 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: as far as I don't know how how much I 600 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: should share because off the record, some of it could 601 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: be off the record, but he did one thing. He 602 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: did say he likes the thought now that now that 603 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be on the field all the time, 604 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: go ahead and use some of that ten personnel. Yeah. 605 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit different when he's here. Yeah. Now, 606 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: if he was here, he would not be in favor 607 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: of that ten personnel. Yeah, I'm not coming off the 608 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: field now. I think that I think you're going to 609 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: see them do more of that. I think that the 610 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: plan is going to be And I brought up the 611 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: question yesterday but yesterday about trying to are you gonna 612 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: make Dak a pocket passer or you're gonna are you're 613 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna play to his strengths and let him be more 614 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: free wheeling in the way he plays. And you know, 615 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: eleven personnel gives you a good opportunity if you can 616 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: get some of those guys going, you get Beasley going, 617 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: And we saw what Austin could do. I know it 618 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: was one play but the one play went for nine yards. 619 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: If you throw the ball to a guy and he 620 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: could get nine yards, ten yards, maybe bust it loose. 621 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm all for getting him more involved. 622 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm all for also more involved, getting Michael Gallut more involved. Man, 623 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: he came across the middle of that one time he 624 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: was open, he was able to define space, get him 625 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: to ball, let him run. I'm totally okay with that. 626 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: If Dak Prescott has to run on the read option 627 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: stuff in order to keep that defensive end wide, so 628 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: ezekiellot can hit that gap by all means, I mean, 629 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I you know, there's there's quarterbacks in this league you protect. 630 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: You try and protect Rogers and Bray and Breeze, but 631 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: there's other guys you just say, go play football, Just 632 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: go play football. And I think Dak Prescott is that guy. 633 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: I do. And that's my attitude about it is, if 634 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna and I know it's one game, and I'm 635 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: not supposed to knee jerk, and I'm not knee jerk. 636 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: I just think you have to go back to what 637 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: he was able to do in twenty sixteen. They ran 638 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: the ball effectively, but they played loose with him. You know, 639 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: they played loose and away and allowed him to do 640 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: some things and order him for him to be creative 641 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. I don't believe Dak Prescott, 642 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: and I'm sure people will come at me for this. 643 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: I just don't see a pocket passing quarterback. I see 644 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: a guy that's much better playing on the move and 645 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: doing things that he is capable of doing. He threw 646 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine passes in that game. I wonder, and you're 647 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: guys over there with the stats people, how many times 648 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: he actually threw the ball from the pocket. Yeah, because 649 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: he was on the run. Yeah, it wasn't like he 650 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: was sitting there. But they said in the second half, 651 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: now better than no. But I'm saying the protection part. 652 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: If you believe next gen stats, which is another thing 653 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: that we're having to deal with, and you know, and 654 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: there's people out there that that trust those numbers and stuff. 655 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: They said he was he was the fifth. He had 656 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the fifth most time. Okay, I'm gonna say this wrong. 657 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: He was fifth of the quarterbacks that played as far 658 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: as time in the pocket three point five seconds per 659 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: throw in the pocket. That doesn't sound right. Yeah, I mean, 660 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm point five is a long time. That's it forever. Yeah, 661 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: but that's what they said. He was the fifth best 662 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: protected quarterback when he was in the pocket. I feel 663 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: like the average time in the NFL for a quarterbacks 664 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: like two and a half. No, that's the that's the 665 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: number they had, And I just whether you believe it 666 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: or not, but I'm just trying to say, I understand. 667 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: I understand what what this might take to get things 668 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: going for him. You might have to run in the ball, 669 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: standing of the chains, I get that, but you're gonna 670 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: probably have to do something things that he was did 671 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: in two Mississippi State twenty sixteen. Those things. They tried 672 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: to make him a pocket passer last year, they really have. 673 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: They tried to make him a pocket passer, and maybe 674 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: that's not his cup of tea first eight games, sixteen 675 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, four interceptions. Last season, Yes, moving around, But 676 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what if he moved around in the 677 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: first eight games or not, or if he was in 678 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: the pocket. All I know is when they ran the 679 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: football and they protected him, he was pretty darn good. 680 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: They've got to figure out something. When they can't run 681 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: the football, that's the problem. And there are two new 682 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: pieces up front, holding calls and motion calls, blocking the back, 683 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: all those things hurt him. How much read option are 684 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: you thinking? Then you know what, I'm gonna freewheel this thing. 685 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: I am. Jerry Jones talked about it the other day. 686 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: He compared him, and I understand the comparison. If you 687 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: talk about Cam Newton and you talk about Golf. What 688 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to say is, we've got the ability to 689 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: run the football like Cam Newton did the other day 690 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: for sixty yards in the first half. We've also got 691 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: the ability to throw the ball like Jared Golf did 692 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: the other night in that that Money Night game. I 693 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: think they're a little bit closer to what Cam Newton 694 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: is than what Jared Golf is myself. Maybe that's what 695 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Maybe that's something maybe he's given us a little bit 696 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: of a hint that, Okay, we need to figure out 697 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: more things for him to do where it allows him 698 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: to to get in the flow of the game other 699 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: than playing from the pocket. I'm on board with that. 700 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: I think you just do have to be mindful of 701 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: the toll that can take depending on how much you 702 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: use it. Yeah, but and yeah, I was just a friend. 703 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: I think they protected him because he's a friend. They 704 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: think he's a franchise quarterback. Well, as Mickey said yesterday too, 705 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: what's your alternative? But he goes down? You know that's 706 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: that's the problem. I mean, there's I'm just saying there's 707 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: a flip side to it. We saw RG three, who 708 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: was a much slighter built player. Sure do that for 709 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: a full season, and he got hurt and he was 710 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: never the same. Now das built like a linebacker. So 711 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel better about him running read option. Um, but 712 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm not all one. I'm not asking him to run 713 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: ten twelve times. Well that's what I was asking you. 714 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: How many times do you want to do with Griffin? 715 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Is he had breakaway speed where he could feel like 716 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: he could get to that coiner Dak is smart in 717 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: that he'll go ahead and hell yeah, I think they're 718 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: going to have to do something different though, I do. 719 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean, and to me, it's because if it's they've 720 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: got to find a way to get the running game going, 721 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: and they've got to find a way to get him 722 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: going throwing the football and get him in a comfort 723 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: level because I think he gets they got behind the chains. 724 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: He misses some throws and I think he starts pressing, 725 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: and we saw that last season two and may and 726 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: there may be it may lead to him not seeing 727 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: things as as well as he normally would when things 728 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: are rolling a little bit easy. What about coming out 729 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: tempo and did a nice shot with that the other day, 730 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: and get him into a ven you get eleven personnel 731 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: on the field, and you're comfortable with everybody out there, 732 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: Just keep going, keep going, let him, let him manage 733 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: the game that way. I don't have a problem with that. 734 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I just think they have to let him play more. 735 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: And I think that that that plays to his strength. 736 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: I really do. And that's you know, I watched him 737 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: in the pocket stuff and all that, and I understand 738 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: what Mickey's saying. Eight touchdowns for interceptions, I get it, 739 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: But I think that I think that you've got to 740 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: figure out a way to play to his strengths. And 741 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what's their record when he gets sacked 742 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: six or more times, Yeah, that all sounds good, but 743 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: if you can't protect him. That's the second most he's 744 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: ever been sacked besides eight. Yeah, that game and didn't 745 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: turn out well, did it. What's your suggestion? No, My 746 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: suggestion is you got to do a better job. I'm 747 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: not for people just throwing their hands in the air 748 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: and saying you don't have I didn't say that, but 749 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: you've got to protect him. But you've got to come 750 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: up with it. Okay, it's protection the only thing then, 751 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: well it would be a start. Are all quarterbacks protected 752 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: in this league? All of them? How many quarterbacks got 753 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: sacked six times? Are all quarterbacks? Asked you that? How 754 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks got sacked six times and got hit four 755 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: more times times? That means ten? And how many times 756 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: did he have to run out of the pocket to 757 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: save from a sack. The thing about it is, I'm 758 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: asking you this question. Not all quarterbacks are protected every 759 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: He has got to make some play. I understand that, 760 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: and he he didn't make play that he didn't make plays. 761 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: Is that why he got sacks six times? He went 762 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: into a couple of sacks, let's be really honest. And 763 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: they also had a sack where they didn't bump all 764 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: the way outside. The head coach told you that in 765 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: the walk off. If you listen, that's what he did. 766 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: Do listen, but I do watch as he told you 767 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: though that they the protection problems were a little bit 768 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: on the quarterback too. You're putting it all on the 769 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: offensive line. It was not very good. Okay, give me 770 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: a solution to how to make him a better quarterback then, 771 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: other than protecting him. Well, that that would be a start. Okay, Right, 772 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: how's he going to throw the ball? Beck? What at 773 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: six sacks a game? Time? Sixteen? Go do the math? 774 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: How did you make him throw the ball? Sacks? Time? Six? Time? 775 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Do you make him throw the ball some sacks a season? 776 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: They're not going to give up six sacks every game? 777 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: How do you make him throw the ball better? Don't 778 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: give me the well bit? What do you mean? Well, 779 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: you got to protect him. There's a little bit of 780 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: both there. I mean he's got it when there is 781 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean he missed, stays in the game, there's there's 782 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of both there. So why did 783 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: all these other quarterbacks struggle last week? I didn't want 784 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: good one in the quarterback I mean good ones. Huh, 785 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: good ones. We're responsible for this game. I understand his team, 786 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: but if you can't protect your quarterback, olask Eli mann 787 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: you protect Eli Manning. No, they couldn't protect him, so 788 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: they rolled him out, all right, he just let him 789 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: roll out every time he just gets sacked. Do you 790 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: think my idea of of no huddle and I like that, 791 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: that's that's a better answer to me than anything that 792 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about right now. Anything anything to get him 793 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,479 Speaker 1: in the flow of it, him in a rhythm. Yeah, sure, sure, 794 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm all for that. And if that keeps him out 795 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: of third and twenty six, I'm for it too. Yeah. 796 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: And and because one of the things that bothered me 797 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: about the game when they get the ball back with 798 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: him inta fifty one left and then they can't even 799 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: get a first down and they complete a pass basically 800 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, well they get they get the holding pillion 801 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: pile Collins that kicks them back in the thing. And 802 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: so what I'm wondering, and we haven't seen enough evidence 803 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: in a two minute drill, okay, in a game situation 804 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but I didn't play after the game 805 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: two to see what they really got as far as 806 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: just a little short passing game to get gone even 807 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: in a two minute drill much less, you know, And 808 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: wonder if they trust him. I wonder if they trust 809 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: him to play in a two minute game? Um, is 810 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: that way better? Because easier. He's their guy. No, That's 811 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, do you do you worry? 812 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: Do you? I'm just throwing it out there because I'm trying. 813 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not I'm not the Bob Seeger song. 814 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for I'm not working on mysteries without 815 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: any clues, like, for instance, for instance, in that two 816 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: minute drill, and I haven't gone back close enough, and 817 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: I need to go back and really look at what 818 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: they were, what routes they were running, and so forth. Yeah, 819 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: for instance, you see an Aaron Rodgers again the Cowboys 820 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: last year. He had one time out left, he had 821 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: a minute fifteen left whatever, and he did not use 822 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the sidelines going down the field. He used the middle 823 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: of the field. He's got the time out in his pocket, 824 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: he got and the Cowboys had a time out in 825 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: their pocket. Right, Okay, so let's use the middle of 826 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: the field. Okay, Right, and you're giving you're taking what 827 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: the defense has given you. There's gonna be something available 828 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: there and matriculate your way down the field, right, And 829 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. And so I'm sitting there going, okay, 830 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: so where is this team as far as their two 831 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: minute offense, and sure, maybe that is a way to 832 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: get to get him in a rhythm and get him going. Yeah, 833 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: I've always thought he's best when he's on the move 834 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: in some fashion and a lot more so design stuff 835 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: than scrambling for his life and throwing off his back foot. Now, 836 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: maybe some of that is read option and some of 837 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: that is that boots and the waggles and that kind 838 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: of stuff. Carolina gotta get Caroline some credit for shutting 839 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: some of that stuff down. Yeah, but I think him 840 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: on the move a little bit more can help him, 841 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: don't you think teams last year's shut down those boots 842 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: and waggles, they started anticipating. They killed him. Beasley. They 843 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: killed Beasley. That's what happened to that team. They took 844 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: him away. They took him away. But you know, I mean, 845 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: They've got to figure out other ways to do this. 846 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find ways, you know, I'm just trying 847 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: to find ways. I'm trying to find ways to help 848 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: him protection. I'm trying to find ways so we can 849 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: complete passes. I'm trying to find ways to let him 850 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: see the field better. You know, I'm trying to help 851 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, and I'm trying to help this rookie left 852 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: guard in the backup center. You know, I'm trying to 853 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: help these guys. I'm in agreement with you that just 854 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: using him in dropbacks and having him sit back there 855 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: in the pocket, that's not not at the curtain stay 856 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: of the offensive day. I don't disagree with making I'm 857 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: just saying that there needs to be a different line 858 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: of thinking. How do we how do you get him 859 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: going in games? If the protection is not going to 860 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: be great? What what's the next step? What is what? 861 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: You know? You just you can't throw the ball down 862 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: the field. Now you have to Michael out needs to 863 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: be on the field more than he was subscribing to 864 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: his theory. There you go rookie and he can play. 865 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Get him out there. Who need to be on the 866 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: field as far as the receivers go, I said, it 867 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: needs to be on the fields basically, and then give 868 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: me somebody else. They'll think Thompson, they'll prove Thompson out there. 869 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: But you know, actually, let's see if you could get 870 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: Austin going. Okay, Austin, so we've got four receivers right there, 871 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: and then you get zeke In the backfield. So there's 872 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: your ten personnel. Let's go Hall of Fame tight end. 873 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Tell me this morning that go ahead and use some 874 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: ten personnel because you think did he not trust to 875 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: swim in and l No, I think it's more okay, Well, 876 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: they had success the other one. I got to figure 877 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: out something somebody to get it going. They had success 878 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: when they started spreading everybody out in the second half. 879 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: Gallup got twenty nine snaps in the game play. I 880 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: thought he played more as the game went on. I 881 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: said last week started because I think he's Yeah, Tavon's 882 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: got speed and he's explosive, but Gallup has a has 883 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 1: a gear to him. He's just young. He's just young. 884 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: And I'm with Mickey. There did a lot more. Did 885 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: they use two running backs like not a fullback? They did? 886 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: They did a couple times. Yeah, And and the fullback 887 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: they got is not a glass eater, and that's a problem, 888 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? With a glass eater, a 889 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: guy it's just gonna go in there and dig guys 890 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: out and be And he's a good special teams player, 891 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: but they missed. If you're gonna play with that guy, 892 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: play with somebody that's gonna go in there and explode 893 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: on people. I don't need you go in there and 894 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: get in the way of the back and be indecision, 895 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, indecisive and what you're doing. Go in there 896 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: and get somebody, dig somebody out. You know. That's he's 897 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 1: not Keith Smith. I don't know. I mean, I never 898 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: had a different type of fullback Smith. I know Keith 899 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: Smith would go in there and and he would try 900 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: and concuss somebody. You know. That's and I'm not I'm 901 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: not chilling for Keith Smith. I think old while he's 902 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: a better special teams player than him, if you got 903 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: him to for that, okay, great. And he's probably a 904 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: better single back runner than Keith Smith, okay if he 905 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: probably catches yeah, okay, that's one reason they went light 906 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: at running back because he can do some of this 907 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: single background. But he's not He's not that type of 908 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: bro dick guys out fullback that you they had last year. 909 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm hey, you better figure some things out here. 910 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: You just don't just don't bang your head against the 911 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: wall twelve personnel thirteen personnel and think you're gonna be 912 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: good enough doing that. It's not it's not the plan. 913 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: That's not a good plan. It's not a good plan 914 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: for the quarterback, you know. I mean, it's not a 915 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: good plan for the rhyme some stat again, once you 916 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: know it, depending on who you believe that group you're 917 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, I'm not that true, God Almighty, I'm 918 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: not saying they're the Bible. Okay, I'm just mad at 919 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm not mad at you, both of you. 920 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. Mickey's rubbed off. I'd like 921 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: to invite all three of you to buy Thursday Boarding. 922 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: By we go. There's no hope for me. Bill, I mean, 923 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: you can save Mickey. I'm I'm down to get Yeah, 924 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: we get to eat it. Whole Foods Market there. Will 925 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: DeMarcus ware be the next guest shows up there too, 926 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: I've seen him there. Fifty Fancy with the Stars a 927 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: fifty three percent of the time bad groups. Sorry, Rob, 928 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: I didn't mean you're fine, go ahead fifty three percent 929 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: of the the time. They played extra man in the box 930 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 1: Carolina fifty three percent of the time, and they sort 931 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 1: of invited it. They did, they did, And that's where 932 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: that's where I'm thinking. That reminds me of the old 933 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: damit days. Yeah, and had more players who could win 934 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: their one on one battle. And Zeke is like, yeah, 935 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: come on, bring it on, bring it on until until 936 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 1: it's fifteen carries for sixty five yards. That's not He's 937 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: going to look up in week four and go Okay, 938 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: they're now playing eighty percent in the box. You know, Okay, 939 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm that to me. That's the strategy you're gonna have. 940 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: Smell just told you what they're gonna down there. Yeah, 941 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: Landing College is gonna You're gonna see number twenty one 942 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: hit number twenty one all day on both sides, on 943 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: both sides. 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Yeah, yeah, when you get to that point. 998 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: I know you're a Missouri man a lot smarter than 999 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: an LSU man. But that's I messed that thing up. 1000 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: Every time. It's good here it is. Hey, by the 1001 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: way I was doing I had to fill in for 1002 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: you over at the on the fan. Yeah, every every 1003 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: every day? Oh yeah, yeah, I meant to tell you that. 1004 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: I meant. I'm like, I'm like, I don't know why 1005 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: they don't give you enough money to do that. I 1006 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: was gonna tell you, I said, one of every day, 1007 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm going one of the things. It's gonna happen when 1008 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: you go for a week, either he had or appreciate you, 1009 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: or they're gonna say, ah, he's replaceable. No, no, they 1010 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: asked me to do it, and you are not replaceable. 1011 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: You really are now, I don't know. I think, you know, 1012 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: thanks for good radio in their mind. Yeah, I just 1013 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: got an urgent call from my wife. Call him immediately. 1014 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: Is she listened to the show and says, get away, 1015 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: she's Psycho brought us. No, she's she's at work. It's 1016 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I better call, I better call. It's 1017 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: about a delivery guy coming to the house. I'm like, 1018 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: could that not have waited? It's the hot water heater 1019 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: getting bust. Oh that's never good. Yeah, that is not good. Um. 1020 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: I had a question talking about what Rob brought up earlier, 1021 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: although he just not subscribed to it. I don't. I'm 1022 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna give Christmas maybe byan too. That's my gift to you. 1023 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: But we were talking about I like the socks. A 1024 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: lot of times when you look at the All twenty two, 1025 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: you're not sure what the well, you don't know what 1026 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: the assignments are players. So that's fair gold too fair 1027 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: to say who is at fault on a play. That's fair. 1028 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 1: You remember on the first drive for Carolina, cam Newton's 1029 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: twenty eight yard run, the long run, Sean Lee, Well, 1030 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: that's what I thought watching the TV copy, But then 1031 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: if you look at it, they didn't. Randy Gregory. Randy 1032 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: Gregory went way and splashed in McCaffrey. It was his 1033 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: own read okay made me scrape line, So I didn't 1034 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 1: know if the assignment would have been for Gregory. Is 1035 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: Gregory's supposed to stay home on that usually uns or 1036 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: but usually you can get on no. Yeah, But the 1037 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: fact that Lee didn't scrape and he got caught up, 1038 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: and he got caught up, and I'm thinking, okay, yeah, 1039 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: did Gregory just make a just a straight move on 1040 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: his own and then shun Lee? And I haven't run 1041 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: into Sean Lee. It's kind of like going to give 1042 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: him a little room of that did you not scrape? 1043 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: You know? But hey, that's I think we'd like to no, no, 1044 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: because sometimes you get a call like you get what 1045 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: they call it, take it like take it like you 1046 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: you got, You're on it and I'm around, you know. 1047 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: So now McCaffrey had gotten the handoff, always gonna be 1048 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: a two yard loss. There's no doubt Gregory was all 1049 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: over it. Yeah, but as it was, then usually you 1050 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: don't want to go against Sean Lee when it comes 1051 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,959 Speaker 1: to mental things, because he's one thing. He got caught 1052 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: up in the trash a little bit, and so he 1053 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: was late getting over I think, And so the blame 1054 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: went on Lee because he was the one dive into Okay, 1055 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: like we talked about the Ezekiel, it looks terrible, It 1056 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: looked terribly like why would you why? How can you 1057 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: make that block? And in reality, no, he's not supposed 1058 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: to make that block. So again you ask, Okay, he 1059 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: was on the right side when I accuse him not listening, 1060 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: But when the when the when he bumps? You bumped 1061 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: the thing all the way outside? Now that is who's 1062 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: is that the rookie call? Is that the center call? 1063 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: Does the quarterback have to check the protection? You know? Now, 1064 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: let's let's be honest here. This is now going to 1065 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 1: be a little bit on DAK, not a little bit 1066 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot on DAK. Without Travis Frederick there, He's gonna 1067 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: have to be really sure that that Joe Looney and 1068 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: those guys up front know exactly what's going on. So 1069 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: just more on his plate, more on his plate, all right. 1070 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: The concern that you would have against the Giants this week, 1071 00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: what's number one concern? Number one concern? I think the 1072 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: receivers getting open. I mean, that's the back to the whole. Yeah, 1073 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: he's sitting in the pograph for three and a half second. 1074 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,959 Speaker 1: I think that you can't. I think that John told 1075 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: John Smoke, who did a great job at telling you 1076 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: without Olivier Vernon, this is not a dynamic pass rushing team. Great, 1077 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: great analogy. Right there, A guy lives in the building. 1078 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can see that all twenty two. You 1079 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: can see that. So I think that it's gonna be 1080 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: on the Cowboy receivers if we want to play, if 1081 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: you want to play eleven personnel or you know, or 1082 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: ten personnel, it's gonna be on these guys. Can you 1083 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: win on the outside against Eli Apple? You know, can 1084 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: you win on the outside against Genois Jenkins because they're 1085 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 1: gonna try and commit to stop in Ezekiel with Landing 1086 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 1: Collins and Curtis Riley the safeties. So get ready. You 1087 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: know he said its single high stuff. How many routes 1088 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: can you run against single high stuff and get open 1089 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: to give Dak Prescott a chance to hit you? Well, 1090 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: you just need to On Jenkins, you need to double 1091 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: move him because he's gonna jump routes anyhow they will jump. 1092 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 1: And the interception he did get, the guy was covered, 1093 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: but the ball was underthrown absolutely, and it was it 1094 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 1: was an easy pick for him. What scared me was 1095 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: is how well Apple played? Because that was a good question. No, 1096 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: that was a good question because it was a come 1097 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: to Jesus meetings you know about about him and then 1098 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: some of his his his attitude, clean slate, he was. 1099 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,399 Speaker 1: They were talking bust up there last year, two years ago, 1100 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: the job. Last week, I've flipped around and say, despite 1101 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: what we talked about the offensive line, they do have 1102 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: so many weapons offensively. I mean, we know ail they're tied. 1103 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: End is basically a watchie player. Shepherd's a guy that 1104 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: they move around. Um, can they cover up? Because how 1105 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: many explosive plays can they cut down on in this 1106 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: game and get you know, because it takes one play 1107 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: to either score like Barkley or get you in deep 1108 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: in the red zone or deep in Cowboys territory And 1109 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now the way the Cowboys the 1110 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: struggle scoring points, it might a couple of those plays 1111 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: might make the difference for the Giants. You got a 1112 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: flincher at quarterback, though, you got a flincher, you know, 1113 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: and you get and you kind of knock him around 1114 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 1: a little, Yeah, for sure, knocked him around. That level 1115 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: comes down and that ball goes out and it's not 1116 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,439 Speaker 1: always where it needs to be. Yeah, So that's why 1117 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham had ten yards a catch because he's you 1118 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: get the ball. Yeah. They've always been like that one 1119 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: and you never know. But you know, looking at Jacksonville, now, 1120 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: maybe it's me. I didn't recognize any of their wide 1121 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: receivers Jacksonville. Yeah, can you name them? D Westbrook, Yeah, 1122 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: as one of the west and he was he was 1123 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: like I used to lead, but he got Marquis her. Yeah. 1124 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: So they're starting k Cole Cole, right, and then Jenkins 1125 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: and Moncrieff and Moncrief and yeah they got Moncrief from 1126 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: the Colts on Sante Moncrief, you know, and then and 1127 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: then they were they were strictly in DD Westbrook, who 1128 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 1: might have been the best one. May be so their 1129 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver cord compared to the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm just 1130 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: saying they they got to figure out. You know, you're right, Mickey, 1131 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: it's a good point and you have to which is 1132 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: why I thought that they might be interested in deaths 1133 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: because of what the little Yeah it's Coughlin though, that's right, 1134 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: I said, no, no, no, or maybe Herns. Yeah, well yeah, 1135 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: they probably like to have him back. Yeah, okay, it 1136 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: says ten thirty on my way, so wow, long segments today. 1137 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: The big clock up there says ten thirty. Well, then 1138 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: I guess it means it's ten thirty, and that means 1139 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,280 Speaker 1: it's the end of another delivery. Guys, I'm talking Cowboys 1140 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, I've got to go. Let a guy in 1141 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:43,720 Speaker 1: the hill hurt. This has been a production of Dallas 1142 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.