1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky, Rhett with you Buck. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: You know it's a big day, I guess election day, 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: and it would take something big to pry that Indiana 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 3: hat off of Rhett's head. 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 4: He's got the America hat on. 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Today. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 4: We're all about of country. He's team Country over over 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 4: IU right now. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 5: So Red, White, and Blue not. 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I get this, but. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 6: I got to ask about this thing that I don't 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 6: know if rhet Senate or whatever. 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: What's this Windiana? Oh? 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, nine Indiana. Yeah, we're just Windiana. Now, that's what 17 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 5: we did. 18 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they come from the student store. 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 5: Indiana. That's what we do. 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 7: I don't know if you heard from nine and oh 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 7: for the first time in program history. You know, we're 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 7: going to take down the national champs this week. And 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 7: there's a lot lots of there's a lot to like. 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: You'll love this. 25 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: So my dad, who spent a lot of years in Indiana. 26 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: I was actually born in Indiana, but his but uh 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: was he was born in Ohio. So he spent we 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: leave more time growing up in Ohio than Indiana. So's 29 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: he's an Ohio State football fan, and he's an Indiana 30 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: basketball fan, as I'm sure there's probably more quite a 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: few people in that bucket, but he still he loves 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: the buck guys. So he'll watch the buck Eyes every 33 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: every week. My dad's eighty eighty four, I think eighty 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: four years old. So we're talking and he's telling me 35 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: about watching the buck guys win over Penn State, and 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: then I go, well, there's a big game illumin on 37 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: the horizon with Indiana. He goes, Indiana. I go, Dad, 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: they're undefeated. He goes, really, he goes, have they played anybody? 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: I love it? 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: Fantastic, So I gotta get used to this Indiana football 41 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: power business. 42 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: Buck Like that doesn't just roll off the tongue. 43 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a mind of detailed about like level 44 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 6: competition and playing the wins count. 45 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: This would be a huge test. We'll get a chance 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: to see them. He just has to see them. I 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: guess the team that is decent. 48 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: Not great, Yeah, not great, but decent. 49 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: We've won every game, befourteen. Don't worry about it. 50 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah it's true. 51 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: It's time for the Lee Block presented by T Mobile 52 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: for business football needs and network willing to go the 53 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: extra yard, So do you go further with T Mobile 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: for business. Let's get to these trades. Normally on this 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: day of the week, we kind of look back at 56 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: the Monday night game. Spoiler alert, the Chiefs won a 57 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: home game. Tampa gave him a good battle. Patrick Mahomes 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: wins a coin toss, and we know how that story ends. 59 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: No surprise, they remained undefeated. I just I We've had 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: this conversation with him a million times. Deander Hopkins look 61 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: good as we know he would, he'd fit there. So 62 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: I'd rather just take our time that we have here 63 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: and talk about these trades, the latest of which is 64 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: the biggest one as we're getting near to the deadline, 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: and that is Marshaun Lattimore going from the Saints to 66 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders. Every buddy Adam Peters making a bold 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: move here. They give up a three to four and 68 00:02:54,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: a six and they get a fifth back. So that 69 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: is a third, fourth and a six, four a five, 70 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: and Marshawn Latimore buck, I'll get to you first. First 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: thoughts on this one. 72 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 6: Look, the com mander is going all in trying to 73 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: upgrade a defense that is not quite up to par, 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: but it's playing well enough for them to win games. 75 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 6: Now you go get an elite corner to put in 76 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: the defense, and we have seen what Dan Quinn has 77 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 6: been able to do when he has elite corners at 78 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 6: his disposal. We talk about guys that are getting their 79 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: hands on the ball. We saw what Trevon Diggs did. 80 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 6: Ron blayd that' saying the dear leap, but they were 81 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: able to really become ballhawking machines whenever Marshawn Latimore comes, 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: and it gives you the flexibility to not only do 83 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: some of the stuff that they've been doing with their zones, 84 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 6: but now being able to play man demand and being 85 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: able to play snugger coverage on some of the better 86 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: teams that you're playing. To me, it suggests that the 87 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: Washington Commanders understand that the window is open for them 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: and they're going all in to take advantage of it. 89 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 90 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: I did just check. 91 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 7: And Washington does not play the Buccaneers later this season. 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, a lotmore. Best that one's out of the 93 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 7: question at this point. But look, I mean, when healthy 94 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 7: Marshall Latimore was one of the best corners in the league. 95 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 7: Like those first three or four years he was in 96 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 7: the league, like it was that was fun to watch, 97 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 7: like he was he was on and it kind of 98 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 7: felt like, you know, he was one of those guys 99 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 7: that had become really disenfranchised with what was going on 100 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 7: in New Orleans. So hopefully Fresh Start brings back some 101 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 7: of that high level play that we've seen from Marshall 102 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 7: Lattimore and and he kind of continue rolling with that defense. 103 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 7: So I'm kind of excited to see and see if 104 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 7: it kind of pays off, if that change of scenery 105 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 7: pays off. But I love the fact that Washington's going 106 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 7: in on this thing, right I mean, like Washington realizes 107 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 7: what they have an opportunity to win the NFC East 108 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 7: and to make some moves with their rookie quarterback and 109 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 7: just kind of continuing to go all in for it 110 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 7: right now. 111 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: I love it. 112 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 113 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you look at if they want to 114 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: get somewhere inside the division, it's Philly. 115 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the obstacle. 116 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: And you look as you go into the playoffs about 117 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: some of the white outs you're going to see there 118 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: in the end FC and some of the quarterbacks to 119 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: go along with it, you need somebody that can they 120 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: can help match up. And you know, I think this 121 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense for Washington. I think their 122 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: their timeline got adjusted, and that's you know, being a 123 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: well run organization. You have your plans, but then you 124 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: also have to adjust along the way and say, Okay, 125 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: Jesus is right in front of us right now, man, 126 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: why not let's go make a run at this thing 127 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: right now? And that's credit to Jayden Daniels of making 128 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: them immediately competitive. But I love to move there, and 129 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: I honestly, I think for for too many years now 130 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: the Saints have been trying to fool themselves into thinking 131 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: there's something that they're not and I think this is 132 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: a sign of there's admission here that we got to 133 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: tear this thing down. 134 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Now. 135 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 7: By the ways part, I think there's a thirty one 136 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 7: million dollar cap hit like no matter what. For a 137 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 7: lot of more are taking your medical. 138 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: Take your medicine, man, take your medicine. You gotta sometimes 139 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: you got to run to the bottom, to spring off 140 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: the bottom and shoot back up to the surface. So 141 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: that process has begun with the Saints. Some of the 142 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: trades here, this one was like the least surprising one 143 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: I was in Cleveland over the weekend, and it just 144 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: felt like it was a matter of time before Zadarias 145 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: Smith was going to get in the car and make 146 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: the short drive over to Detroit. 147 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 4: RHTT. That one, that one felt like it was it 148 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: was in the works for quite some time. 149 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: I mean we identified that. 150 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 7: You know, unfortunately almost immediately after Aidon Hutchinson went down 151 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 7: with that lower leg injury and thought, you know, if 152 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 7: he's out for the season, they got to do something 153 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 7: to continue to try to capitalize on what they have 154 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 7: going this season as the best team in football right now. 155 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: So this was great. 156 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 7: You know, I think I think Zadarius Smith will be 157 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 7: invigorated by this too. Like he's sitting there with the 158 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns and just got a ticket to the Super 159 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 7: Bowl perhaps, you know, like that's that's got to be 160 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 7: pretty invigorating for a player that's look on the back 161 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 7: nine of his career but still producing at a high level, 162 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 7: and you throw him in there and try to keep 163 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 7: him fresh. And look, they've been holding serve right on 164 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 7: defense without without Aiden, like it hasn't been. 165 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: Like a glaring issue. 166 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 7: But now you just get to kind of continue to 167 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 7: boost up that side of things with Zadarias Smith coming 168 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 7: in and you know, an edge rusher role in a 169 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 7: rotational role. You know, he get him twenty five thirty 170 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 7: snaps a game like feel pretty dang good about that? 171 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to feel good about it if you're 172 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 6: the Detroit Lives because you've been able to kind of 173 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 6: tread water with Ady Hudcheson being sideline. 174 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Now you get approven veteran. 175 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: Someone that can give you that leadership but also that 176 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 6: experience that you need as you're getting down the stretch. 177 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: It's a nice move. 178 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 6: I'm still surprised that Cleveland is beginning to auction off 179 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: some of the personnel, but maybe I shouldn't be. 180 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: When you're sitting at two and seven, that's what you 181 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: kind of need to do. Yeah. 182 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that gets into a broader discussion which we'll 183 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: have in the off season about Cleveland and the weird 184 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: spot that they're in with Deshaun Watson his contract situation. 185 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, I think the hopes that Jamis Winston maybe 186 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: could keep this season afloat that disappeared quickly with all 187 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: the turnovers last week against the Chargers. So they've gone 188 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna have They're an interesting team to watch in 189 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: the off season of how they try and approach the 190 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: quarterback position. But you know, the best way to navigate 191 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: around a poorly playing, expensive quarterback that you can't get 192 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: rid of is to go draft one that costs next 193 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: to nothing. And uh, it's the only escape route that 194 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: you have. So any asset that you have that can 195 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: fetch a pick that could help you potentially move up 196 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: to secure that quarterback, Uh, you know, I get it. 197 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: I get it from from that standpoint. I was curious 198 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: to see if maybe Denzel Ward potentially could be on 199 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: the move, but he's had some concussion issues and you know, 200 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: I think that might scare some teams away. 201 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 5: Miles Garrett was never going anywhere, right, I mean like that? 202 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was silly. That was like the two 203 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: that drove me crazy. Word Miles Garrett and oh Max 204 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: Cross whole player. 205 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to try to build around it. 206 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, who is the identity of your team if you 207 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: are the Raiders? So yeah, interesting, It's always an interesting 208 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: time of here. There was one other one. What was 209 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: the other trade? 210 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: We were? 211 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 7: We were Khalil Herbert went to the Bengals. Uh, you know, 212 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 7: a nice a nice depth move. Chase Brown is still 213 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 7: the guy there, but Khalil Herbert before four he kind 214 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 7: of got buried on the depth chart. Had some some 215 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 7: effective you know games for the Bears leading into the Sea. 216 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 7: I think you only had eight attempts this season though 217 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 7: that was one. I don't think that cost that cost 218 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 7: the Bengals very much. In seventh round pick Zach Moss injured, 219 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 7: kind of no brainer there. 220 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: And then you have Mingo was the last one. That 221 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: one was shocking. 222 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: That weird, right, Buck? 223 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 4: Did you see that comment they were going to get that. 224 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: I did not see that they gonna get that kind 225 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: of compensation. But I'm not surprised that he's out there. 226 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: But man, they don't have anybody, yea makers. 227 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 7: You know, the Panthers of the Cowboys, Because you make 228 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 7: the argument from I mean, well, yeah, is he a 229 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 7: better Jalen Tolbert? 230 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: Is that what they're hoping? Like? 231 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 232 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: That's a blind that's a blind taste taste test. That's 233 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: a tough one. 234 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 235 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't know there's much difference there. He's younger, you know, 236 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: he's got Tom left on his contract. It's a cheap 237 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: from a financial standpoint, it makes sense. It's kind of 238 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: a cheap. Look this is yeah. But I was talking 239 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: to a GM this morning about that, and we're both saying, gosh, 240 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: that felt rich. But he brought up a good point, 241 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: which was, you know, hey, we actually really liked him 242 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: coming into the draft. 243 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Buck. 244 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: How many times have you seen it? And I don't know, 245 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you if you did a study on it, 246 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 3: if teams have benefited from from sticking to their college grades, 247 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: or if they've been fooled by it, and said, oh, 248 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: you know what, if we get it, if we get 249 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: him here, we love them coming out. If we can 250 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: get him in our program, our system, our coaching, we'll 251 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: get them. 252 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a part of it. 253 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 6: And I mean, like honestly, like if we're not talking 254 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 6: about like a first round pick in those things, but 255 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 6: if you have any if you have the right thing, 256 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 6: you should keep the tires on good players. And I 257 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: also think, like we're talking about all these picks that 258 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 6: are going being at the bottom, I think it's a 259 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 6: byproduct of the future drafts not me as deep as 260 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 6: they once were based on nil then people not coming out, 261 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 6: people are willing to just give away those things, saying, hey, 262 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 6: what I'm getting what I'm giving up, I'm getting back 263 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 6: something that far more valuable than return. So yeah, you 264 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 6: can have whatever, fourth, fifth, whatever. I think I can 265 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 6: get a better player right now that I can develop 266 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: as opposed to trying to identify wanting to draft. 267 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 5: You got another one for us, Retten, Yeah, we got 268 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: another one. 269 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 7: And you know what we talked about this exact move 270 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 7: right after Russell Wilson's first start on this show. Mike 271 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 7: Williams no longer in New York Jet now heading to 272 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers to catch moon balls from Russell Wilson. 273 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: All right, this is this is a challenge for Nobil. 274 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay down the challenge because if you're listening 275 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: to the show right now, right now, no Bill is 276 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: going to insert that little slippet, that little conversation that 277 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: we had, and he's gonna tell give us the date, 278 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: Nobil of when that was, because it was a day 279 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: after that Steeler's uh game. 280 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: It was a Sunday night, I think. 281 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: So so we need the date on that, and we 282 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 3: need you to drop that conversation in so we can 283 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: say how many weekdays. 284 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 7: October twentieth, so it would have been the Monday, October 285 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 7: twenty first recapch Yeah, three. 286 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: Weeks ago we said this was the perfect fit for 287 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, so go ahead insert it now. You 288 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: talked about how they're playing physical, running the ball, getting 289 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: the tight ends involved with Friarmouth and with Washington, and 290 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: then big shot opportunities down the field and rhtt. This 291 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: is the one that I was thinking of watching this game. 292 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm watching on the other side, Mike Williams, who's been, 293 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: you know, publicly embarrassed by Aaron Rodgers after a game. 294 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: You go out and you get Davante Adams, so he 295 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: falls further down the pecking order. He didn't practice early 296 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: in the week. I don't know what was going on there, 297 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: but it sounds like obviously he'd have a legitimate reason 298 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: to not want to be a New York Jet and 299 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: if the Jets are interested in trading him. I'm sitting 300 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: here watching this ball game going. I was around Mike 301 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: Williams with the Chargers his whole career. What Mike Williams 302 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: does well is what Russell Ruslson was giving George Pickens 303 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: opportunities to do in that game. If you're going to 304 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 3: trade Mike Williams and I'm Omar Khan. I'm calling as 305 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh Steeler and saying, hey, come on back over here. 306 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: Saw you with a nice catch on a fourth down. 307 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: But we will utilize you in what you do. We'll 308 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: put you opposite of George Pickens. And now we have 309 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: you talk about a basketball team with those tight ends. 310 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: If you put Mike Williams out there with George Pickens 311 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: and with a quarterback who wants to give guys chances 312 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: down the field, tell me I'm not crazy here for 313 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: thinking that. 314 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 7: You're You're not crazy, and you know what I you know, 315 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 7: and I shame he got injured early in the season. 316 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 7: But Roman Wilson. I felt like, if you get those big, 317 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 7: those big dudes out there and you let Roman work 318 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 7: in the slot, do you know the rookie man that 319 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 7: would be that'd be. 320 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: A lot of fun. You know as well. I love 321 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: that idea. 322 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: I love that idea as long as you're continuing to 323 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 7: feed you know, George Pickens. I feel like the targets 324 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 7: have to stay that. 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: Way for him to be engaged. And and you know 326 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: what he was against the Jets, well. 327 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: That's either a great job by the Bill or a 328 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: poor job. 329 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: Sociece. 330 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: But I don't even think we needed to break this 331 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: thing down because we already said that this was a 332 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: guy who's who's ideal receiver for Russell Wilson. 333 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 5: Yes, it's great. 334 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 7: I mean like that fits what they want to do, right, 335 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 7: and it gives them, you know, a little bit something 336 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: that is a little bit different right than what they've had. 337 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 7: And if look, if Mike Williams is healthy, we know 338 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 7: with what impact he can make, you know, on a game. 339 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: Now the question is how quickly can he get up 340 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 7: to speed here? And they can they find him a 341 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 7: you know, a smaller package to get on the field 342 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: right away and find some of those ways that you 343 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 7: know he can he can get open for Russell Wilson 344 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 7: and continue to kind of upgrade that offense that has 345 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 7: seen an upgrade in the three weeks that Russell's been 346 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 7: in there. 347 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: Buck. Yeah. 348 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 6: No, The thing about the still his offense and what 349 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 6: they need is like we talk about the moonshots and 350 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: the balls and Mike Williams and what he can add 351 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 6: to it. But I'd just like the prospect they having 352 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 6: two I would say, big body playmakers on the outside. 353 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: You got George Pickens on one side. 354 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: One of the tight ends. There's four of them on 355 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: the other. 356 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: The other guys. 357 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that Pittsburgh is recreating what Russell 358 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 6: Wilson had when he was at his best early in 359 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 6: his career, but it's eerily similar to what they're trying 360 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 6: to do in terms of like size, strike zone, deep ball, 361 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 6: all of that other stuff, and being able to run 362 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 6: the football and push it down the field. That is 363 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 6: when Russell Wilson has always been at his best. And 364 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: we don't need vintage Russell. We just need efficient and 365 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: effective Russell's. 366 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 7: What the city Rice was was there in Seattle and 367 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 7: they were throwing some of those deep play action shots. 368 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 7: You know, bigger guys six foot four, six foot five. Yeah, 369 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 7: I mean it's kind of what it feels like. 370 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh, what did it I think he had? He had 371 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: some time with BMW Big Mike Williams. Yeah, Big Mike 372 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Brillhams on the outside. Big Mike Williams going to get 373 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: it for the Seahaws. 374 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: Big Mike coaching high school ball right now. I believe 375 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: his name after him around a little bit. Look, I 376 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: I also just think of. People can say whatever they 377 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: want about Russ, but you just went from the most melancholy, 378 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: moody quarterback to a guy who just smiles and you know, 379 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 3: gives you slogans all day long. I's going to feel 380 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: like Mike Williams has died and gone to heaven. From 381 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: that standpoint, I don't see Russ. I don't see Russ 382 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: airing him out for not staying on the red line 383 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: on a B I don't see that happening. Yeah, So 384 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: good for him, good for Mike Williams, good for the 385 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a wrap for the lead block presented 386 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: by T Mobile for Business. Football needs a network willing 387 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: to go the extra yard, So do you go further 388 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: with T. 389 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: Mobile for Business. We'll take a break. 390 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: When we come back, we will do the rookie draft. 391 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: But again, if any of these trades, any new trades, happen, 392 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: we'll let you know as we go through the rest 393 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: of the episode. But we'll be right back and go 394 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: through the rookies right after this. All right, we've got results, 395 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: rookie draft man, let's go right. 396 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: Week. 397 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: I tied him this. 398 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: And and cut into a little bit of it, but 399 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we've got Rhtt that's up forty to thirty. 400 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: Five on me. 401 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: Bucky's right on my heels at thirty three. Fuck, we've 402 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: got to be better than this. 403 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: Man. Come on, I gotta be good. I've falling off 404 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: the wagon. 405 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: I feel like you have you were leading. 406 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm in this cyclone of losing right 407 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 6: like from high school to my college team is not 408 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: playing great, pro team is not playing WAD. I got 409 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: to find a way to step away, maybe retreat, maybe 410 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 6: I need to do, but I gotta I gotta find 411 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 6: a way to just get out of this this losing 412 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 6: cycle because it's detrimental to my health. 413 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: I don't do well with losing. 414 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: Here's the breakdown. 415 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: So Rhett with the performance of Jayden Daniels that did 416 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: well for him. I had Nick so I got some 417 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: second place there wide receiver, tight end running backs, I 418 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: had neighbors, which got me the most points owed by McConkey, 419 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: with Rhett and Marvin Harrison Junior there for Bucky. And 420 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: then in the last category, I got another w with 421 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: Bowers and uh Rhett got some second place points with 422 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: Bucky Irving going running back there and uh Keon Coleman 423 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: finished up for Buck. So, uh, this week the order 424 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: is myself, Bucky Rhett so Buck. We this is the week. 425 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta get going here. Yes, it's gonna happen. 426 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: I'm running away with this thing. 427 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Well five points. 428 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: Calm down, we had to halfway. 429 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've had a good first half. 430 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Calm down, you got. 431 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go. 432 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: Well, the first pick is not gonna surprise anybody. I'll 433 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: go Jaydon Daniels Buck, I think he's been the first 434 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 3: pick darn near the whole season. 435 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 5: You never helped me. 436 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, who are who are? 437 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: Who are guys on by week? This week? 438 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: You're just Bowers. That's the only one. You gotta worry 439 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: about ours? 440 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: All right as well? Well, let me go to the quarterback. 441 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: Look, my team is has falling into poor in Chicago 442 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 6: after the hill, Mary, I feel like we just. 443 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: Lost all the all the juice and momentum. But calem 444 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: jone bounce back. So this is the week. Let's go 445 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: kay the waves. 446 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 5: Okay, got it? 447 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 7: Well, you load me up with Melik Neighbors, my friends, 448 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 7: let's go. I'll take Melik Neighbors right there, and then, uh, 449 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 7: why don't we as I was just looking at this 450 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: once again? Here, Why don't we also take a look at. 451 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 5: I don't know that I like. I don't know that 452 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 5: I like Brian Thomas this this week. Give me black 453 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 5: McConkey again, give me give me lad neighbors. 454 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: Baby. 455 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: All right, Buck, you're back. 456 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mmmmmm. I'm so mad because last week they 457 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: had a great week. But I might go there. 458 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 6: Look, I mean, I think I think I gotta stay 459 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 6: with it at some point, because at some point it 460 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 6: has to turn off for me. 461 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: Can I Marma Harrison Julian. 462 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: All right, you can do that. You could do that. 463 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: That's a good thought. 464 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior. Buck, what's the update on Brian Thomas Junior? 465 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: Is he playing? 466 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: He played? Yeah, he's playing. 467 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I can't help did He's just run around 468 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 6: and they don't throw the ball to him. 469 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: He's playing out there, he's dress, he's in the uniform. 470 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't want to put the 471 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: ball in the hands of one of your better players. 472 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: But it just hasn't gone anyway sometimes. 473 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: All right, who do the Jags have this week? 474 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 7: They got the Vikings stayed away, Yeah, I stayed away 475 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: from BTJ on that one. 476 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: Nope, I'm going to BETJ. All right, I'm going to 477 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: go BETJ and then I will come back. I get 478 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: to go back to backers. Got dunsa is coming off 479 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: of a nice week. 480 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, you know who's sneaky kind of 481 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 5: getting up there? 482 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: Tavian Sanders. Yes, is that where you're gonna go? 483 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: Exactly? Twenty five catches two and fifty two yards. 484 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 4: They just don't score a lot of points. They don't 485 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: get touchdowns. 486 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: BTJ, and then oh, you know what, I'm gonna go, 487 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: same team. 488 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Uh who do the 489 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers have RT? 490 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 5: They have the Giants? 491 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: Oh give me, give me liget. I'm gonna go look 492 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: at today. 493 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Okay, all right, twenty six catches to forty four. 494 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: He's getting in the end zone a little bit. What 495 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: are we got for touchdowns? 496 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 3: For leget think doesn't he let's see, Yeah, he's got 497 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: four tuddies. Yeah, I'm gonna go. There we go, Buck, 498 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: you're up final. You got your final pick here? 499 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: Get BTJ. 500 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: I'll take you TOOJ. 501 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: I got BTJ, and. 502 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: Okay, I would say you've got wait wait. 503 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, wait wait wait wait wait? 504 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 5: Oh we got a little by week you go back 505 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: to Rome that week? 506 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Buck was playing, But were you playing 507 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: the word when I made that pick? Beyond Bucky? How 508 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: do you know? 509 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 5: How do you not go with your namesake here at 510 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 5: this point? 511 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 4: Oh, Bucky Irving's still out there. 512 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't mean, like, are we gonna keep you not 513 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: into it? They're playing San Francisco, so yeah, no, I 514 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I'm going Rome. 515 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: But man, what about you. 516 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 4: Know, Tracy not getting any off here? 517 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm finding here here. 518 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 7: Let's go Rome because if Roman Donsey. All right, so 519 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 7: you're going with a stack, you're going look at Rome. 520 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: Because they've looked because that offense, I mean did play well. 521 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: But KLi, they were a mess against Arizona. Uh right, 522 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: you got which you taking here? 523 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: I think I'm going Drake May today. Boys. 524 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, those rushing yards. Man, it meets some Drake May. 525 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 5: I just may go live down by the bay and 526 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: have some Hey, what do you say? It's Drake May. 527 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: It's it's fourth and thirty. 528 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: Gott I got a. 529 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Hearty laugh at a read on that. All right, boys, 530 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: anything else you guys want to jump in here with. 531 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: We have how much longer until the trade deadline? By 532 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: the way, as we're recording this. 533 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 5: We got about three hours. 534 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: Oh so we still have time, you know, so that 535 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: you know there's going to be a huge trade that's 536 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: going to go down once we stop. 537 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: So, yes, always happens. 538 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: Is it going to be the Bill is going to 539 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: send the text and try and get us all back together. 540 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: It's not going to work. Who could it be? 541 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: Who would be traded? I don't know, I don't know. 542 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 7: But anyway, do you guys see that Jonathan Cooper got 543 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 7: a four year, sixty million dollar extension from the Broncos 544 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 7: seven and as such they traded Arons Browning, Yeah, to 545 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 7: replace a fan of the friend of the program, Dennis Gardak, 546 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 7: who unfortunately. 547 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 5: Took yell out there. That was so lit depth piece there. 548 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I've got one for you. 549 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 3: I was talking to someone at the Michigan game. There's 550 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: a lot of personnel guys there, so talking to someone 551 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: in the league and we were talking about Mason Graham 552 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: the defensive tackles. Yeah, Surveyte's finest out here in Southern California, 553 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: great player, uh Buck. The best part about going to 554 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: live games is you can body type guys and see him. 555 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: So he does not have a good body, you know, 556 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: it's kind of it's not he's got short arms, he's not, 557 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: you know, super super fit, but he's he's obviously very strong, 558 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: very explosive, good player. And he brought he brought up 559 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: the question. He was like, I wonder if he'll ever 560 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: get his arms measured, and and I'm like, you know what, 561 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: I have to be careful because look, I've met the combine, 562 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: we're on the we're on the coverage there. We spend 563 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: so much time talking about it, and it's nice to 564 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: be able to compare things historically. But we are in 565 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: a player empowerment era right now, where if I was 566 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: an agent and he was my client and just being 567 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: totally truthful and honest with you over my dead body, Yeah, 568 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: measuring his arms, watch my tape. I've got three years 569 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: of dominant tape. You're not measuring anything. 570 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 5: The guys doing the measuring are going to be some 571 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 5: of the loneliest guys. 572 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 2: I know. 573 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: I just don't think there. 574 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that people are I think that we're 575 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: getting get beyond that and even with forties, you know, 576 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: we're just seeing it. We've seen it a bunch with 577 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: some of these guys that and I always go back to, 578 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: you know what Ozzie news To used to say, if 579 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: you're fast, run you know, like, yeah, yeah, there's no like, hey, 580 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: like I've done enough. Like dude, if you're going to 581 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: run four threes, if you can fall out of bed 582 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: and run four threes, just go run it. 583 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: You're going to just reinforce how fast you are. 584 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: But if you're a great player who maybe plays pretty fast, 585 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: but you go through your training and you're like, yeah, 586 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: I just I'm not a time guy. Heck no, you're 587 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: not getting a forty out of me. Like, It's just 588 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: it's a different it's a different era for scouting. And 589 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: the thing that struck me was this person, you know, 590 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: who's high up in a personnel department, Buck, the old 591 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: curmudgeony personnel guys, who would ah, we've done this for 592 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: the I didn't even think he really cared. It's like, yeah, 593 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: he's right, the tape is good enough. 594 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, do you think the combine 595 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 5: will ever get to a point where they're like, hey, 596 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: if you're coming, you're doing this, you're at least doing 597 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 5: the measurements. You're at least in order to get admission 598 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 5: to the combine and talk to all the coaches and 599 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 5: all in have all that you gotta, you gotta at least. 600 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 3: It's still man, it's still valuable. It's just from a 601 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: TV TV standpoints, what hurts that's it. 602 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurts that. But like read even if you say, 603 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: like you're bannoning me from. 604 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 6: The combine, Okay, cool, but you guys need me. 605 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: It's a tough. 606 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. 607 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: Like I do think like, yeah, like we're going to 608 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 6: see fewer of the top guys, maybe work out and 609 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 6: do some of the other stuff. But I still believe 610 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 6: we'll see enough to maintain interest in broadcasting the combine 611 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 6: and seeing some of those. 612 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't doubt that. 613 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 7: I'm just you know, I'm just curious if they would 614 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 7: ever be you know, some push to like all right, that. 615 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: Makes some mandatories. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, red 616 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: for a nominal. 617 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 8: Fee, that's all wrong for a nominal fee. If you're 618 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 8: willing to pay me an appearance fee, I'll come in 619 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 8: and run forty for you, like if you have to. 620 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: It's coming down down the pipe. 621 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: The other thing is, Bucky and I have been to 622 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: the Winter meetings for Baseball, and you know that's where 623 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: basically the whole league gets together. They have meetings, there's 624 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: some contracts that get announced there and stuff. 625 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 4: I think there's a way that let's say that like the. 626 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: Nuclear option right where just a bunch of these kids 627 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: are going to say, we're not working out anymore. You 628 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: could have How much more fun would free agency be 629 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: if the whole league was together in one location. You know, 630 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: we bring in the players, we can get we can 631 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: get physicals on all the draft guys, whatever you know 632 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: you need to get there. You can have your interviews 633 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: with them and meet with players. Maybe you have some 634 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: guys that still want to work out. But if that 635 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: was you know, if that was an event where the 636 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 3: whole league was there and boom, you just made a trade. Hey, 637 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: let's bring the GM over to the set. You know, hey, 638 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: you guys just made sure you just signed this free agent. 639 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: That'd be a big It would be a convention. That's 640 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: a great way to put it, would. 641 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: Be to make it. 642 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 6: Let's make it a convention. Let's have fun, let's talk 643 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 6: about league business. Put all the meetings and all the 644 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 6: other stuff there. Let's have some stuff. I'll throw the 645 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 6: bowl around a little bit. Let the little. 646 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: Drafty and prospects do it. 647 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 6: But let's talk about real business and have some of 648 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 6: this stuff that we can broadcast and make it a 649 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 6: lot easier for us to have content. 650 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 5: Sign me up, man. 651 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: Sounds kind of fun, right, although I mean I think 652 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: they would be saying, well, we've got two big events. 653 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 4: You guys have just shrunk down to one. 654 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, free agent frenzy and all that. 655 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 4: But I think it would be fun to have everybody 656 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: there in person. 657 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 5: I mean, let's just let's and then let's continue. 658 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 7: Let's pump up Big twelve combine Baby, let's get that role, 659 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 7: you know, let's pump up the pro days again. 660 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 2: You know what? 661 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 6: In speaking of that, how cool would it be if 662 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 6: we could have the free agents do like signing day. 663 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: Let's put it on out. 664 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, put on the head on. Oh here with choices, 665 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: this is my final four. Oh here's my commitment. 666 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, hey, you know what the good news is, 667 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: we're not the commissioner. 668 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're not going to be We're not. 669 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're living in a did we just do a 670 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 5: fantasy draft. Okay, it was fun. 671 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: That's what we just did. 672 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: That was fun. That was fun though. I liked it 673 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: all right, that's gonna do it for us today again. 674 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: Enjoy All the crazy trades are going to happen after 675 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: we stop recording. I appreciate you guys hanging with us, 676 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: and we'll see you next time. Right here on, Move 677 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: the sticks.