WEBVTT - Two Time Bachelor Brad Womack (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most traumatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And this time I'm not alone. Well, I know sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Zima is here with me, but I'm not alone

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<v Speaker 1>today because joining me again for his second episode is

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<v Speaker 1>former Bachelor times too. Brad Womack. How you doing, Bud?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing great? And thank you for having me. Man. We

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<v Speaker 2>always good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>I welcomed you into my home because a You're a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend, You're a good man. We have kept in

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<v Speaker 1>touch over the years, which I am so grateful for,

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<v Speaker 1>and you live here in Austin. Kind of I think,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly that's a weird one is that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to that I got and maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer to that either. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>to that in a little bit. But you're nice enough

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<v Speaker 1>to drive across town and join me here at the

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<v Speaker 1>house today. You were the Bachelor twice, the only person

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the show two decades that was

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor two times, and so we had to do

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<v Speaker 1>a double episode with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that very much. I'm just glad to be

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<v Speaker 2>here with you man. I like hanging out with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you missed episode one with Brad, go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to it. Holy cal there were some fireworks,

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news stories. Yeah. So it was two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>seven when you were the Bachelor for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously famously you had walked away. You didn't choose anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but while you kind of got hammered a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for it, at some point, like a year or so

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, there was an emotional shift in the

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<v Speaker 1>country towards Brad Womack. I felt it. Did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>it all of a sudden people forgave and loved you again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But you know, I can very happily say that

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<v Speaker 2>I did feel that for whatever reason, and I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for it. To anyone listening that is on the positive trajectory,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, thank you. I needed that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did feel that, and it felt damn good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, if I were to guess, being the psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 1>I am for the country, you stayed true to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You never wavered, You never gave in to say things

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<v Speaker 1>that would have made you popular or taken the heat

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<v Speaker 1>off at the time. You took it all. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think owning up to it was big, but also be

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<v Speaker 1>I think people realized after a few more seasons of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fake proposals and breakups, they saw you and said,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was the most real we ever had. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there was a respect factor of I

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<v Speaker 1>do like this guy, and that was the most emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this ground swell of support that brought you

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<v Speaker 1>back into the good graces of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. I did feel it was and it

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<v Speaker 2>was so welcome, man. I mean we discussed it first

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<v Speaker 2>episode that that was a really rough time after the

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<v Speaker 2>first season and so, and we discussed I care what

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<v Speaker 2>people think about me, and so, Yeah, it feels really

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<v Speaker 2>good to feel that. I guess the tides turned, so

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<v Speaker 2>to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>But there had to be a bit of a sour

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<v Speaker 1>taste with how you had left, not just not the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but production because that final day, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>heard in the first episode it was contentious. Sure, it

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<v Speaker 1>was brutal. They really went after you and in a

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<v Speaker 1>not so nice way. Sure what made you want to

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<v Speaker 1>want to not just do the show but get back

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<v Speaker 1>in bed with them again?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, you know, I think I don't judge anybody on

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<v Speaker 2>this earth for one or two interactions, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't. And you know, you have to realize,

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<v Speaker 2>or I have to realize. You know, that show is

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<v Speaker 2>a machine. There's a lot of production value behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of money behind it, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure ratings for one season depend on budget for

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<v Speaker 2>this next. All of the interesting. So if I in

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<v Speaker 2>any way disrupted that, I can understand the anger.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't. I mean, your show is highly rated,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, sir, But the only reason you were invited

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<v Speaker 1>back to the party is the first party has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a success. Trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't do things out of the kindness of their heart.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they don't. I've learned that. But okay, so well

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<v Speaker 2>that's well said. But maybe it was the unknown. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But bottom line is, I really don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to give people room to be who they are,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning we all react. I mean, you've seen me react

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<v Speaker 2>very angrily at times, and hopefully that's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a soul telling sign of my character, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>so anyway, but the reason I wanted to jump back in,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say it till I'm blue in the face. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the show. I do call me a hopeless romantic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I genuinely believe in that show, or I at

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<v Speaker 2>least believe that you can meet somebody no matter where

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<v Speaker 2>you're at, and she might be the one or he

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<v Speaker 2>might be the one.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's twenty ten or three years later, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>and we come back full circle and bring back Brad Walmack.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a very popular choice by now. Off screen,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are very good friends. We've hung out

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<v Speaker 1>several times. I think. I think it was after when

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually dating somebody from Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>When I didn't want to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to say who it was. I came

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<v Speaker 1>to town and I called you, and I just was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to dinner or whatever and see you

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<v Speaker 1>as I always did when I came into Austin and

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<v Speaker 1>you said, no, no, man, come and stay at my place.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, man, you let us move into your place.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure for a whole year. And here's the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>You had this spectacular two or three bedroom condo and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's amazing. So we get there and I

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<v Speaker 1>assume we're going to be staying with you. You left,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you packed up, and You're like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go stay with my brother Chad. And I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. I'm not kicking you out of your house.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the kind of guy Brad is. He

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<v Speaker 1>leaves and gives me the keys to his condo for

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. What you're just You're such a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unreal. And the other thing that really blew

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<v Speaker 1>me away, and I didn't finish the story in episode one. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you gave me a shirt and he gave me a

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<v Speaker 1>parting gift after the show. But there was another time

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw this guy and said, could this be real?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he really the nicest guy I've ever known? My

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<v Speaker 1>fortieth birthday remember that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So my fortieth birthday, I came here with all my

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends to celebrate over on Lake Travis and

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<v Speaker 1>I rented a house and we know, we had the boats,

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<v Speaker 1>the jet skis were having a great time. We pull

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<v Speaker 1>up to the house and there's it's like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is it's actually kind of pre Airbnb. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a rental shirt. So We're renting this house, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody scurrying out of the house, and I'm like, son

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<v Speaker 1>of a bitch, like this thing's supposed to be empty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to impress my friends and family. I

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be awesome. And somebody is here and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is going on? And I see this

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<v Speaker 1>person back, you know, coming out of the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>now look and we get closer, that's Brad. What that

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Womack could take it upon himself because he's a

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<v Speaker 1>bar owner. You had fully stocked the house. You brought

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bar and dropped it off at our house,

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<v Speaker 1>just set it up for my birthday, and was leaving

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<v Speaker 1>like a thief in the night because and luckily I

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<v Speaker 1>got to see you and give you a hug and sure,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, And You're like, I don't want to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to thank you. I just wanted you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good time, Bud, and you took off. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up seeing you for dinner later we came

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<v Speaker 1>into town. But to those stories were you know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you will always be one of my favorite human

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<v Speaker 1>beings to ever have been on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man, You always.

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<v Speaker 1>Went above and beyond. It was never about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. Well, first of all, you're my friend

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<v Speaker 2>right period, and so friends made a lot to me,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you did a lot for me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get too cheesy and stuff, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very grateful for the experiences that I've had. I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for the friendships that I've made. And so, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a blip. I really appreciate you mentioning that. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I say that was a blip to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a gesture to say thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's all I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got why everybody loves Brad you do well because I

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<v Speaker 1>know there's a one offs, but you do that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and I know for a fact you

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<v Speaker 1>do and that's that's why we all love you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you go into twenty ten, say, and you are the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor again, And you said in episode one it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about redemption. You didn't need to clear your name because

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<v Speaker 1>you are beloved. Everybody loved you, even though we all

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<v Speaker 1>gave you a hard time. And I think some one

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<v Speaker 1>woman even slapped you on night one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes she did kind of liked it, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>showed fire. I mean, let's face it, it showed fire,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the producers obviously came up with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that a woman would get out of the car

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<v Speaker 1>and slap Brad and said, you know, I think she

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<v Speaker 1>said this is for the whole country or.

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<v Speaker 2>So all the women across America. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>direct quote. And can I say something That woman did

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<v Speaker 2>not hold back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Oh, she gave you a legit, Slau.

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<v Speaker 2>She rang my bell, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how the season started. Sure, and that was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the famous season with Emily Maynard. Yeah, you were partially

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately maybe responsible for creating maybe our biggest Starmily Emily.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure you have one. No, that's self creation was.

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<v Speaker 1>An absolute rock star. That is the season that where

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<v Speaker 1>we put her on the map. Was this sweet mom

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<v Speaker 1>and back then I think her daughter was only like

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years old at the time, I was

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<v Speaker 1>very young and she came on your show. And by

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<v Speaker 1>then we were traveling, Yes, we were, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I forget where all we went, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up in South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>We did Anguilla, Cape Town.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Oh my god, I swear to you. So

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren and I just did a auction for Experience Camps,

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing camp for people who have lost a significant

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<v Speaker 1>like a caretaker, a mom and dad, or a sibling.

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<v Speaker 1>And we auctioned off a trip to Anguilla. Did you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Brad Womack season we were at the

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<v Speaker 1>Queens Art Resort.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day, the prettiest place I've ever seen was Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But back to Emily as far as her stardom so

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<v Speaker 2>to speak, yeah, I had absolutely nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>her light, that's her.

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<v Speaker 1>Just that was the season we introduced I Got You, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you, got you? Yes, She's just natural. Man, my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>just a beautiful person inside and out.

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<v Speaker 1>Just jumped off the screen. Yeah, man, there are some

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<v Speaker 1>people that just captivate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Jojo was another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I've always wanted to meet her and and.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are so similar because again Texas people, Her

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard this both of them. I want to meet

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<v Speaker 2>both of them. Let me clarify.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know, I know what you meant. Jojo

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<v Speaker 1>and Jordan, Raven and Adam are another couple you got

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<v Speaker 1>to meet here that are just incredible. But Jojo was

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<v Speaker 1>another one where you just saw you like, she just

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<v Speaker 1>jumps off the screen. Yes, she does this thing about her.

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<v Speaker 1>But Emily Maynard was your final choice. You actually did

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<v Speaker 1>choose somebody in that season?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel the extra pressure coming towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>there to actually make that choice, because I know we

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<v Speaker 1>worried more about landing that plane as we called it

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, because you know, it's like the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Runaway Bride. It's like we've seen this before. Sure, is

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<v Speaker 1>he really going to pull the trigger?

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<v Speaker 2>I hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted this for you. I actually you know

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<v Speaker 1>by now we're friends, right and I really want you

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<v Speaker 1>to find love, and I thought it was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, I wanted it for me too, And you

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<v Speaker 2>know I can't lie and say I didn't feel any

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<v Speaker 2>pressure at all. Of Course I did. Yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 2>I did. But I'll tell you, man to man, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have chosen anybody if I didn't feel what I

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<v Speaker 2>felt for Emily. And what I felt for Emily at

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<v Speaker 2>that time for me was love. And and you know, people,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are scoffs going across the nation right

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<v Speaker 2>now right what I felt in that I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was in love with this woman, period, and so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Make decisions with the knowledge you have and the feelings

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<v Speaker 1>you have at the time. Of course, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>look back and be like, oh, that was crazy. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that first marriage was terrible. It's like at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we knew talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't care about her because she dumps me.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for the laugh, but I'm getting it's uh No,

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely had very strong feelings for her. I take

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<v Speaker 2>marriage and engagements very seriously, of course, and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>lucky as hell man that she was there and accepted.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was I was trying to think, who is number

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<v Speaker 1>two in that season? Was Chantal Yeah, which I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of the others. The other stars on

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<v Speaker 1>that season was Michelle.

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<v Speaker 2>Money, Michelle Man my favorite human beings me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, that's right. I remember what were we in Costa Rica?

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<v Speaker 2>We went to Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you said goodbye to Michelle was in Coasta

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<v Speaker 1>Rica exactly. We were in the r and All region

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<v Speaker 1>of Costa Rica, down where the volcano was blowing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she happy, Michelle?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, so so she? Uh was going to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of be a life partner with Mike we

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<v Speaker 1>or the golfer, but they ended up getting married. Good

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<v Speaker 1>for her, and so they are married, and her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy and fully recovered when she had her trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>And I talked to Michelle from time to time, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm a huge golf fan, so I keep in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is as explosive and phenomenal and charismatic as

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<v Speaker 1>she was when she was on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. And I hope she listens to this because

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<v Speaker 2>I get asked about her more than anybody. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>is she really like that? And I can't sing her

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<v Speaker 2>praises enough because one I love when people are just authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she is very real, you know, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you what you get with what you see with money

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<v Speaker 1>is what you get with money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you do. And and beautiful, I mean strikingly gorgeous woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think she owns that a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she walks the walk, so yes she does.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I'm glad she's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, her and Mike are doing great. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her out there my son was playing on the cross

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<v Speaker 1>room as pre college, and we swung by and actually

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<v Speaker 1>went to their house because we were going to the

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<v Speaker 1>airport and we're all sweaty and nasty. We actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to her Mike's house to shower up, I have lunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went to the airport. But I keep

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with her and she's doing really well. Try

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<v Speaker 1>to think who other because there was that was a

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<v Speaker 1>star studded show.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley both Ashley's were is it a bear? And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley Abart Spivey's Spivey. Yes, I've heard Ashley Spivey doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like me. I mean, I don't even pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>Who also went on to be our bachelorette.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a I was trying. There's certain seasons

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<v Speaker 1>that produced stars, sure, just all stars for one reason

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<v Speaker 1>or another. And for that season to to have produced

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<v Speaker 1>two bachelorettes and stars that went on to Paradise and

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Games and all these things. We did all the

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<v Speaker 1>incarnations of the show. So you know, you may not

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<v Speaker 1>have found love, but you gave us a lot of stars.

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<v Speaker 2>I found love. It just didn't work out, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you left the show engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did. And I'm proud to say that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And and Emily was a great addition to my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know, great, I guess I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>say experience. I don't know that it is a chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a chapter of your life, perfect way to

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<v Speaker 1>put it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have literally no regrets on that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it is what it is. We're definitely

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<v Speaker 2>two different people and and so you learn that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and like Michelle Money, I mean, Emily is I

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<v Speaker 1>mean married and children do it. She's just crushing it

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<v Speaker 1>and happy. She just be adore her too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad she's doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Man and Ashley a bear as well. It's it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I keep in touch, especially back then the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the people that came off the show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like we just all got closer at the time. We

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<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of intimate time together. Of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the show got more professional as we went on, but

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<v Speaker 1>that also kind of detached us in a way from

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<v Speaker 1>some emotions and connections of relationships that we built on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But famously, obviously you and Emily didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out what has life been like kind of post show?

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<v Speaker 1>You you obviously had the bars here in Austin. That

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<v Speaker 1>was amazingly successful. You opened some in Houston, you opened

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<v Speaker 1>bar in Nashville. You and your brother, your partner's created

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing business. But what about love. I've known, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hopefully I'm okay to out you. I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>dated a couple of times. Of course, you've had some

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<v Speaker 1>serious relationships, of course, but as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, nothing. So well, you know, so I dated

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<v Speaker 2>a girl for about seven years, you know, after Emily,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's one of those things that things just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fizzled unfort It's just one of those things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>madly in love with a woman at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you just move on. Right now, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laying low. You know. It's and I'll tell you

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>why it's. You mentioned the bars, and I know I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this when I got here. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>just recently sold our company. And while that's really exciting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the biggest transition of my life. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd moved to Nashville to kind of we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>expand out there, and then decided maybe this isn't the

0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.360
<v Speaker 2>road we want to go down. And so and when

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<v Speaker 2>I say we my business partner's fat. But anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>so there's nothing for me in Nashville, So now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>moving back. So bottom line is it's really really hard, yea,

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<v Speaker 2>to even ask a girl on a date when I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a home to go to, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm staying with my brother right now. I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a home in Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing's changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to figure out, you know, what's next in life?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a it's you. You're an interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. I mean, you're you know, you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are both just on the other side of fifty, yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>And which is an interesting time anyway, is when you

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<v Speaker 1>really take stock in your life and you get kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reflective and you think, Okay, what do I want

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<v Speaker 1>for the back nine of life?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have just especially when you have a major

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<v Speaker 1>cash event, you've cashed out whatever that means. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be good, bad, whatever. You've hit two pivotal moments in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, sure, turning fifty and then getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>your business. Now you have to decide what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What does it look like now? What is what is

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<v Speaker 1>the why? What's the how?

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<v Speaker 2>The purpose? You know, and we you and I discussed

0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:37.120
<v Speaker 2>purpose a long time ago, right and and frankly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my biggest purpose is work. I don't know why.

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I've always been that way, and so now I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lost a little bit. I've recently joined a new

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<v Speaker 2>company and I'm really excited about that. It's so you're

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<v Speaker 2>working again, I am. I just started last week. And man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I know, I can't help it. Man, it's but

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in this company. It's you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I have the capacity or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>to describe it. I don't want to bore your listeners

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, but.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. It's it's called the Collective. It's here

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:13.879
<v Speaker 2>in Austin, but we're expanding nationwide. It's a social performance club.

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<v Speaker 2>And what that is. It's state of the art training facility.

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.440
<v Speaker 2>We have an athletic recovery lounge, we have a co

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<v Speaker 2>working space, we have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, is this the one that's in downtown Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I'm trying to get you and Lauren in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I have heard about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But every professional athlete, yes, within a thousand miles of

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<v Speaker 1>here goes there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you're I'm glad you're bringing that up

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm trying to be humble.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I've so this is crazy. I had no idea

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you were involved in this. I've had several people, professional athletes,

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>tell me you have to go it's I think it's

0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it's downtown Austin, right.

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.359
<v Speaker 2>So there's two locations. The one my office out of

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 2>is on South Congress, right behind St. Celia, and then

0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>we have a location up north. But yeah, so, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you would love it. Our our membership base,

0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't it's not all professional athletes. It's every guy,

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 2>every day guys like me. But I want to bring

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.880
<v Speaker 2>up something important. We also have a full blown medical

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 2>practice within the facility, okay, And what that means is,

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, peptides are all the reasons now and all

0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.119
<v Speaker 2>of that, and so we do all of that. You

0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 2>can get your blood work done, and so I really

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.880
<v Speaker 2>believe in the expansion of the business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. So yeah, man, Well Jesus you're a walking billboard.

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Well I appreciate you if.

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You've always been built like a brick out house, but

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it we're on the other side of fifty

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>now and it's not that easy to look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Well, I'm trying. We just discussed I'm single, but

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>somewhat perpetually. I need to keep up, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>all the cool kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, congratulations on that. And by the way, the collective,

0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I love that you guys are expanding, and I will

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 1>come see it because I've heard amazing things. So you're

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>diving into that, sure, which I get. And by the way,

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't stop what you love to do. And if

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>work is something that's passionate to you, it is you

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 1>should continue that passion.

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you man.

0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 1>You can only go play so much pickleball or off

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it's. You've got to keep your mind active,

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're good at it, clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you man. Well, that's the thing about it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll be really honest. I think, like anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were going through our exit for the business,

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna admit this to you. I mean I was

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.880
<v Speaker 2>looking at retiring, I mean homes in the mountains and

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>here's my chance. I'm out, buddy, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is you know, go all.

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, careful what you wish for because

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I sat on my butt for about a month and

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I went out of my mind. Yeah, and I could

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 2>not be happier with the leaders, the CEO and founders

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>of Collective. I know those guys are really good dudes,

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and just said, hey, that's awesome. I think you can

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 2>add value to us. Yeah, And so I jumped right

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 2>in and we'll see what happened.

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'll crack the door on you know, my own situation. Yeah, please, Well,

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>because I went through something very similar. I was, you

0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>know when I left the show a few years ago,

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>even though it was tumultuous and it made your first

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:09.880
<v Speaker 1>season look really tame.

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Sure, surely imagine.

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>But with that said, you know, I had gotten to

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the point in my life where I was fine, And

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>of course I thought there was a moment, a brief

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 1>moment where I thought, Okay, you can be done. Do

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to be done? You know? Do you want

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to just question with social media? With everything going on?

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know family is the most important thing to me?

0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.159
<v Speaker 1>And I was already falling in love with and in

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:39.439
<v Speaker 1>love with Lauren, saw a life there and was working

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>really hard on that. My kids are older and I'm

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 1>coming close to being an empty nester. Do you just

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 1>hang it up? And you know, like you said, go

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>find that place in the mountains or go down to

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Cabo And And I spent a little time post divorce

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 1>from the show and allowed myself to heal, allowed myself

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 1>to feel that, and I quickly realized I can't do

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that either.

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh I know you can't.

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I just couldn't walk away and do nothing.

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, that's not who you are. And I want

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to jump in on something, turn it on you. Yes,

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not taking over your podcast. I'd be a disaster.

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>There's no rules here.

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Two things, well, actually three. The first thing, I think

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that's the best thing that ever happened to you. Man. One.

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I think you are that franchise period. You are the show.

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows it. And I'm not going to get into

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 2>my feelings of of right or wrong, but that was

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the best thing that happened to you. You and l

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Z I'm talking after everything. Yeah, I've never seen two

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 2>people that are so meant to be with each other.

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 2>When I had dinner with you guys, yeah, I was

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>in awe. I mean, you're finishing each other's sentences kind

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of nauseating. You're yeah, I mean you you both are

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>just so full of love and respect for each other.

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's one another great thing that happened. And also

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>heard through the grapevine that you're getting back into production

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>a reality dating show. I mean, you can't stay away,

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 2>this is what I've heard. But yeah, I mean look

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 2>at you, man. You you are a producer, right, I

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>mean you produce and you work, and so I could

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 2>have told you weren't going to hang it up. I mean,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that's just not you. There was saying I'm happy for you.

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're involved. Thank you, by the way, thank you

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.439
<v Speaker 1>for all the accolades, and you love You're right, Lauren

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.679
<v Speaker 1>is easily the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>She is God. She's such a treasure and on so

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>many levels. And we had the dinner with you. We

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>went to Uchi, one of our favorite joints here at Austin.

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Tyson Cole gave you a shout out, but not that.

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 2>He needs it.

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>You can't get in there, man. Yeah, trients money. But

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and I've gotten to know him, by the way, great Kally,

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 1>really interesting guy, unbelievably fascinating. But that dinner I remember

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that vividly, and we were still fairly new at the time.

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're even engaged. And I was so

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>excited for you to meet her, because yeah, she's just

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>such a jewel in my life. And she was kind

0:24:59.920 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of of the impetus for hey, you're not even close

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>to done. But of course, let's get your ship back together.

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And so we uh, you know, and talk about your

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>first point. The greatest thing that ever happened to me.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, blessings and gifts from God and you know,

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>answered prayers and all that. They don't always come in

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>a box, you know, with a bow under it, under

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the tree. You know, it's never how you ask for it, right,

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>but they show up in your life just the same.

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>And I did need a a an event in my

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>life to get me out of one thing and get

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>me to the next, because complacency, whatever you call it.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I was comfortable. I was working. You know, you're making

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. Life is good. Why are you

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>going to upset the apple cart? You know?

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Also pick you're loyal man, and well.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a big part of it.

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>And and and sometimes to your own fault, I think

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you're loyal. Well, but I know for sure I'm saying it.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to thank you, but no I do.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad you see that. But yeah, it's not

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like you to walk away from anything. And yeah, best

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 2>thing that could ever happen to you. Man.

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I I totally agree with you. And it just takes

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you a minute to kind of see that from the

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand foot level that everybody else sees it. And

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you were. And by the way, uh, to credit you,

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You've always been a dear friend, one of the first

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>people to reach out to me and just say I

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>love you, I'm here if you need me, if you

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>need to escape, I'm here, you know, come in and

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>take over my house again. Sure, but I appreciate the

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that you never question, never just were there.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, well of course you're you're my friend.

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And so I always was grateful for that,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and Lauren quickly realized, oh this is a good man.

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, well, I appreciate that, man. But back to her,

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>and let's sing her praises again.

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're sitting below all her Emmy awardins. I know, right,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>But the house that Lauren built.

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't waste too much time. But It's a real

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 2>good feeling to see two people that are just meant

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and and John.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>We were so bummed you could know. So you weren't

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>at our wedding. Yeah, clearly you were invited. You had

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>an unfortunate event and you were at a funeral, man, unfortunate,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad you were there. Yeah, but we missed you, man,

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 1>because it just wasn't the same without you here in Austin.

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>You know what's so funny is I I listened to

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>one of your podcasts that you were going over, just

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of recapping, right, and and all that's fun. It's more,

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm really sorry I couldn't support my friend. I just

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see because that's such a big moment with

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>l Z in particular. Yeah, you know, you'd gotten to

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>know her, of course, but just seeing you guys so happy,

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and then, let's face it, man, I'll admit I would

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>have loved to have met some of the people from

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the past.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they would have loved you too.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's yet to be determined.

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know, we had a little little cocktail party

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>here at the house the night before, and like you know,

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like thirty or forty of us. It was

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just our kind of tight knit group and obviously you

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>would have been there to meet everybody. That was a

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>really cool night because it's where kind of old school

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>met new school and everybody kind of crossed over and

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a really special, like intense, emotional night. But

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the fact that Lauren and I have moved on,

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>created this new endeavor with Merritt Street Media, which is

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>on the air now with doctor Phil.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I've heard this, you know.

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Having just having doctor Phil come in my life, sure

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and is and you know, I have to give his

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>wife credit as well, Robin, who's amazing and they're friends

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of ours now, Like what a treasure like. And that

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have happened if I hadn't left there, you go,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>if if that moment didn't happen, that jarring, tumultuous time

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>led to this incredible endeavor that we've created now here

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in Texas.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>So what more could you ask for me?

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Nothing like nothing? I have the woman in my dreams.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>We're starting this incredible blank slate of a production right

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that we can do what we want and throw it

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>against the wall and have a proponent in our corner

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>like doctor Phil. Uh I guess the only question is

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>are you ready for a third time?

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Let's go?

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>No, who knows, man, we are doing a reality show

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>about love.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this, buddy. I've learned never to say never,

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. But I also know my lane and when

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to stay in it, my limits I do, buddy. I

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I maybe the geriatric version of whatever dating show. But no, man,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean never say never. Who knows. But back to you,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm really proud of you.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that one always feel in your love and

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>those that were a part of the show that understood,

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and there were there were those inside the show or

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>who had been inside the show that I know what

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>really happened, and they know what really goes on and

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what really went on behind the scenes that led to it.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I always appreciated their silent support and love and that

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that meant the most to me. I bet so, and

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you were a part of that. And I'm afre I

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.479
<v Speaker 1>will always be grateful and and and to move on

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>is yeah, it's I'm I'm I know the chapter you're

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in right now because we're in the same chapter, and

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I I've never been more excited. Yeah, man,

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe because we don't have to do it.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. That's that's such a good point, you know.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>That's another thing. Chad and I both promised ourselves that

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 2>anything that we do after this, we're going to absolutely

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>love it, and I mean love it. And and thank

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 2>god I found that and you know, we'll see and

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously you did too. But life's short, man, it is.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, life's really short.

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, my mom is a great saying. She

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>says life is too short, but it's equally too long

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to be miserable.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's there you go.

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, and whether that's your marriage or a toxic

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship or a bad business or whatever. And honestly, that

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>was my whole thing with Lauren and falling in love

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and marrying her. It's not that I had to get

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>married the first time, but I was young, and it's

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>what you do, right, you're checking off boxes. And I

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>did marry a very fine woman who became a good

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and all that. But with Lauren, I didn't have to

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, she didn't have to do that. Yeah,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>she had been married before, and I had been married before.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I have kids. I didn't need to. It's that I

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to with my whole heart and being It's like

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I got to that point in life where I'm like,

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to do this with you. I want to

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>be life with you. And so when you are free

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and uninhibited like that, man, it's powerful. Well now you're

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>just bragging, man, but I feel like, let me But

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that in my business life too and

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And by the way, I'm doing it well

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>with Lauren, and you're going to do it as well

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>with the collective or you know, whatever it leads to. Sure,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do it because you want to.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing I love about you, guys, I

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>mean an absolute power couple and you can share creativity

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and all that you know. And so keep plugging through

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>or pushing forward because you guys are doing some big things.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 2>So let's hear it.

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I just I'm curious because I have pondered this and

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I've I've talked about this with many people. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know from you, like, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you haven't found true love?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good question. Man. You know I'm allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with you know I'm not the most nurturing guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But but again, back to work, man, we really did work.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a nurturing guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, I appreciate it's such a nurture Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's just timing like and just things

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<v Speaker 1>haven't like it's because it's not like you haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>in serious relationships. It's just you commit seven years and

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<v Speaker 1>then seven years go by, and then you commit five

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<v Speaker 1>years and then five years go by. Is it just

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<v Speaker 1>a timing thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe maybe you know something? I'll admit one thing

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I am really I find immense solace and soliditude, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I find that sometimes if I'm in a very

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<v Speaker 2>serious relationship, I produce, if that makes sense, And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And so well, because you you you dive in one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent to that relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm so concerned about her well being. Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And and it's soud should be it sound should right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I tend to I'm really comfortable being alone, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean really comfortable being alone. And so and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times, especially a partner that you are in love

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<v Speaker 2>with doesn't see about you in alone time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you need someone who is fiercely independent. And because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think to you, well, I don't think to

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<v Speaker 1>your degree. But I like I like being alone, do

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<v Speaker 1>you Yeah? I like my time alone because I spent

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<v Speaker 1>so much time alone, you know, for twenty years when

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<v Speaker 1>I was traveling with the show. Yeah, I was alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we're in South Africa and you're all looking

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<v Speaker 1>at elephants or whatever. I was at that Sabby Sands

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<v Speaker 1>resort by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great point for a week, Yeah, great point

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle of effing nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I would see a couple of people from the crew whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a I had to really learn to

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<v Speaker 1>be alone, and that's a good skill to have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've got to be careful because, like you said,

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it could take over your life, and it can. You

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<v Speaker 1>can almost want that and need it so much that

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you rail against finding companionship.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's it, man, you are a therapist. I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed this, But no, I think you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head. And I'm beginning to learn a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit that you know, I do. I value relationships

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<v Speaker 2>immensely and frankly, I want a relationship badly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and one that's permanent, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you need someone like Lauren, Like Lauren's

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<v Speaker 1>great because for many reasons, but one of the things

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>she does. She has a very badass group of girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been friends, best friends since college. They take

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>these girls trips and they talk, or she'll just up

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<v Speaker 1>and leave and go see her mom in Chicago or

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<v Speaker 1>her sister in Florida or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>She just goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like and she's like, I need time away

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<v Speaker 1>from you too. I like that, like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>within the house. Sometimes she's like, I need a Bravo night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go just watch Bravo and like like, stay away.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, and I know to go into the

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>other side of the house. Sure, you know, I'll watch

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>golf channel. Sure, I think that is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe so I think you.

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Need somebody who understands to love fiercely and intensely. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's more about quality than quantity, and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Womack needs some time, go work, go do your thing. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>when I do get you, I'll take you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, I give That's one thing I can say.

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<v Speaker 2>I give one hundred percent of myself when we're when

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<v Speaker 2>the time comes. Obviously, you know, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I've obviously been asking question a lot. I promise nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is too strange up there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing is, I know there's not like

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you're a great guy. I mean look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still you know, a handsome devil come and that

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<v Speaker 1>that's all there. And I know that deep down there

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is this I always say with braggo because a lot

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of people have asked me because you're you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>my big conundrum in life where it's like I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing these two extensions extension cords and they're like so

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<v Speaker 1>close to plugging in. I'm like, I just can't quite

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>figure out, like why this amazing, dude. But life's funny

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and love's funny like that.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>It is it is, and maybe maybe you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>nail on the head. I just need to find someone

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>that's and when I say fiercely independent, yeah that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need or expect a text every hour or something. I

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 2>mean we're all doing our thing and I'm damn sure

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<v Speaker 2>not sleeping around chea. I've never cheated or anything, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone who can trust and understand go live your life.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's I think that is uh, that is out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's an important thing when you go into that

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>next relationship to define it as such and not put

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the cart before the horse to where you all dive

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in and you show this one life but need another.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like when you get into this life, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>these I needed to define at fifty two, fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>years old. I need to just define the kind of

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, Yeah, you're going to see an application

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>come through for your reality show five minutes after I

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>leave here. We got this, why not, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited you're moving back to Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Thank you. Man. If you need.

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<v Speaker 1>A place to stay in the meantime, if Chad kicks

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<v Speaker 1>you out, you know, I got an ext.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Chair for you. Careful what you wish for? Oh you?

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<v Speaker 1>If you know your brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all? But well I know your son's coming

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<v Speaker 2>back home. Congratulations, Thank you a way. Yeah, and seems

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<v Speaker 2>like your family man, just some really highly motivated people.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a good season right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say life is full of seasons. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>there are good ones, there are bad ones. We will

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>all have bad ones. Lord knows. We're in a good

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<v Speaker 1>season right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it for you, man, knock on what Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that will too, But.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That and just when when you're in a good season,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you just got to enjoy it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Well, hopefully, man, when I'm back permanently,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to take you and Lauren to dinner or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's going to happen. Thank you, my friend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, thank you for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You kidding me. I mean, it's just I said this

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to you before we got on here. I'm going to

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>say this publicly that if you asked me to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it because I know it comes

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<v Speaker 2>from a great place and I just want to hang

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>out with you. So good to see you, man.

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