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Speaker 2: from the sponsors to keep this show alive. I refused

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Speaker 2: to help my friend lie, so she told everyone I

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Speaker 3: Oh don't you hate the owner reverse my friend.

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Speaker 2: Let's call him Ted. Twenty eight male and his girlfriend

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Speaker 2: have been in a long distance relationship for many years.

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Speaker 2: The girl, Ellen twenty nine female, quit her job eight

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Speaker 2: months ago and came to live with him. During this

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Speaker 2: entire time, Ted and I twenty four female have been

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Speaker 2: reaching out to everyone we know to help her get

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Speaker 2: a job. By the way, this story comes from throw

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Speaker 2: we're gonna read this story. But we're not lawyers, so

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Speaker 2: we don't know all the lawyer and stuff going on

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Speaker 2: your own thoughts and ideas in the comments and we

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Speaker 2: can read them. Nah and dopp He says a few

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Speaker 2: months ago, I noticed that the name of her last

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Speaker 2: company was incorrect. When I pointed it out to her,

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Speaker 2: she said that was on purpose, as her company didn't

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Speaker 2: and said she used to work at a much more

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Speaker 2: respectable firm and put down her sister's name in references

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Speaker 2: who worked there. I told her she shouldn't have done that,

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Speaker 2: and most certainly not asked me to refer her to

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Speaker 2: people with a blatant lie on her resume. She defended herself,

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Speaker 2: saying it wasn't a complete lie and she didn't make

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Speaker 2: up work experience. I told her that's her call, but

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to help her anymore. You're honestly

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Speaker 2: so naive if you think that everybody doesn't lie on

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Speaker 2: their resume. After that, Ted and I were still on

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Speaker 2: good terms, but neither of us brought up the job hunt.

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Speaker 2: Some time ago, she finally converted one interview and got

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Speaker 2: an offer. She told me as well, thanking me for

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Speaker 2: all my help. I was genuinely happy for her. She

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Speaker 2: started the job immediately. A week into it, she was

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Speaker 2: in an orientation session with all her peers and her

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Speaker 2: manager publicly humiliated her for lying and asked her to

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Speaker 2: immediately leave. Ellen claims that while she was packing her drawer,

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Speaker 2: she overheard him saying to another colleague that someone had

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Speaker 2: tipped them off. She says that since only Ted and

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Speaker 2: Ted says he doesn't believe I did anything, but can't

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Speaker 2: not support his wife as she is an unemployed, betrayed mess.

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Speaker 2: Right now and there are some relevant comments, Ethel Fleeta says,

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Speaker 2: start distancing yourself from these liars who shift blame so

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Speaker 2: they don't have to deal with their own issues. Op says,

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Speaker 2: and such a needless lie. You're right, shifting blame is

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Speaker 2: exactly what she's doing, playing the victim when it was

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Speaker 2: her own mistake. I just hate that this has caused

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Speaker 2: a rift with Ted. Embarrassing human says, don't say anything

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Speaker 2: to the employer. She's using you as a scapegoat because

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Speaker 2: she doesn't want to own up to her mistake. Let

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Speaker 2: them be mad, Opie says, so true. There are stringent

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Speaker 2: background checks done by employers. They don't wait around for

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Speaker 2: tip offs from friends of employees, but these checks are

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Speaker 2: usually completed before making the offer. So I'm really not

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Speaker 2: sure what happened there. Ramon Devine says, honestly, so many

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Speaker 2: companies won't contact the direct reference for a company and

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Speaker 2: will often go straight to the HR department. Or perhaps

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Speaker 2: someone at this new company knew someone who worked at

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Speaker 2: the company she lied about. She's shortsighted and is just

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Speaker 2: trying to scapegoat you. Take a step back and ignore her.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps if you have any other mutual friends, then do

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Speaker 2: damage control before she attempts to turn any of them

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Speaker 2: against you. Opie replies, I wish someone had said this sooner,

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Speaker 2: because she's already gone and cried to our common friends

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Speaker 2: as she now lives with them. Teds to flatmates, my

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Speaker 2: dignified silence hasn't made much of a case in my favor.

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Speaker 2: Habbi Ennings for All says, wait, did she tell them

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Speaker 2: the real story about how she tricked you and lied

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Speaker 2: on her resume? I'm assuming so because she had to

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Speaker 2: would do that. Isn't it illegal anyway, like fraud or something? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so most people know that it's not illegal to lie

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that, didn't.

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Speaker 2: You know it's illegal to lie. Illegal in the Bible,

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Speaker 3: Ethics, business ethics.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. She just got She got caught a lie because

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Speaker 3: Idiot. It's her own fault, a liar.

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Speaker 2: Ohpi says. She told them that I was aware of

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Speaker 2: the lie and had knowingly and willingly referred her despite that,

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Speaker 2: And somewhere in the middle, when the interviews already coming

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Speaker 2: refused to help her anymore. She said to them that

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Speaker 2: went ahead and did this to her. I'm guessing people

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Speaker 2: stuck in. I guess she's talking about with their friends

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Speaker 2: and there is an update.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, the situation she put herself in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one, yeah, but it's like okay, then again,

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Speaker 2: I guess, just don't lie about where you were a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like the most logical thing here.

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Speaker 2: It does. It does seem like the lawyers would figure

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Speaker 2: you were, even if your sister works there. But hey,

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Speaker 2: she learned that lesson, and I'm sure that won't spread

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Speaker 2: around to other firms in your area. Update. I just

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Speaker 2: spoke to one of Ted's flatmates to ask what's going on,

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Speaker 2: he said. Ellen has basically weaved a very convincing story

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Speaker 2: I had refused to help her earlier. She's been in tears.

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Speaker 2: Ted tried defending me, at which she started accusing him

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Speaker 2: too of liking me. It's a mess, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if I should say or do something here. I mean, honestly, like,

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Speaker 2: there's only one thing that you could or should do,

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Speaker 2: and it's to reach out to your friend and be like, girl,

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Speaker 2: I get it. This is like you're in a crisis

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Speaker 2: right now, because, yeah, you've made a huge mistake. I

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Speaker 2: then whatever, But don't go telling all our friends that

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Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't lie about the law firm you worked at.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I would have been your friend

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Speaker 2: it'll be fine, and I guess that's why I'm not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what he said.

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Speaker 2: There's another update, as advised by many here, I dropped

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Speaker 2: a one line text to Ted and one other flatmate

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Speaker 2: wasn't very close with the other one. What happened was unfortunate,

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Speaker 2: and I understand that Ellen is upset, but I obviously

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Speaker 2: know that too, Speak soon, cheers. I didn't get a

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Speaker 2: I just let it be. Yesterday I texted one flatmate

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Speaker 2: He replied with a huge wall of emotional gibberish, which

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Speaker 2: in summary meant this that I had done what Ellen

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Speaker 2: such despicable behavior from me and that I should stay away.

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Speaker 2: I tried calling Ted a couple of times, no reply.

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Speaker 2: Today there was a check in on his Facebook with

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Speaker 2: the four of them and another friend at a nearby beach,

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Speaker 2: and we have some comments a fartist fourteen. Since she

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Speaker 2: basically lied about everything involved in this situation, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: you were the one who did it. It kind of

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Speaker 2: sounds like she just wanted you out of her boyfriend's

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so true. I totally didn't even like roll

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Speaker 2: that in that she was lying about you wanting to

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Speaker 2: get with Ted and that's why you must have sabotaged her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's jealous, jealous.

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Speaker 2: Wish it might not even be that deep. It might

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Speaker 2: just be like, clearly she's a liar. I mean, cause

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Speaker 2: again I was wrong at the top. It really is

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Speaker 2: contextually dependent on when you can really lie on your resume,

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Speaker 2: I guess saying the entirely different place you never worked

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Speaker 2: at that you've never been employed at as a lawyer, eh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta make it like little white lies, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you made communication fluff. It's you fluff it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not like oh I worked here, but don't ask anyone.

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Speaker 2: Except for my sister with the same last name as me.

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Speaker 3: It's not suspicious facts.

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Speaker 2: M Ohp says, yeah. End, it's surprising because she never

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Speaker 2: hinted towards being uncomfortable about my friendship with Ted before this. Ever,

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Speaker 2: the Crusher says, if your friends are willing to believe

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Speaker 2: and with no evidence, or maybe or maybe fake evidence,

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Speaker 2: for all I know, she gave them evidence, but for

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Speaker 2: for as long as they do, Yeah, I did need

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Speaker 2: I do need better friends. Thanks, and that is the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, screw these people. If they want to, you know,

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Speaker 3: be under her influence, then whatever, that's nothing to do

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Speaker 2: If they are really your friends, like I would try

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Speaker 2: be like, I just want to have a discussion, because

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Speaker 2: clearly this has gone off the deep end. I don't

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Speaker 2: know where you know this energy has come from on

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Speaker 2: her side. But I haven't done anything.

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Speaker 3: I never even made a call to anyone. No one

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Speaker 2: I think she's just mad that I told her this

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Speaker 2: bad idea, and now it has to be my fault

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Speaker 2: because I said so and not that. Gee, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The lawyers figured out she lied about working at another

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Speaker 2: firm where other lawyers work. Who would go, oh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: her sister works here. There's only ever been her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's not Her sister has never worked here. There's only

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the whole thing was stupid, and it

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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with you. OPI don't even involve yourself.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to set the record straight,

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Speaker 3: do it. And I would involve her too. I would

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Speaker 3: call her out in front of everyone, be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: who said that? Oh no, then how do you know?

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Speaker 2: Yo, if you're collapsing, you need to stop doing stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah stop, that's why she did stop, And they told

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunate, but you guys, you know Opie and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, this is like one of the most

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Speaker 2: And if you're too sick to drive five hours, I

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Speaker 2: Might not be my wedding, I said, my wedding. I

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Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Good Chair nineteen eleven,

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Speaker 3: I'm Dakota, and we're here to give some good advice

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Speaker 3: eve of the event was too much emotional labor for

433
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 3: them to step up and help me through. Oh yikes.

434
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 3: They basically told me my vibe was bad and not

435
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: to come to the cabin. I was absolutely floored. I

436
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: could not believe what I was hearing, and I sent

437
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 3: a text saying that I wasn't planning on witching all night.

438
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: I was just getting it off my chest because it's

439
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: what I was going through, and that I was really

440
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: looking forward to having a nice, quiet evening together. Nope,

441
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: we don't want your energy come in the morning. Those

442
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: are not your friends.

443
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever you're complaining about, they're better friends with those

444
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: people than you.

445
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: That's so annoying. The night before your wedding, you're going

446
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 3: through some like you know, other friend group stuff and

447
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: just be like, oh, they're so annoying, but I can't

448
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: wait to like chill with you guys and relax and

449
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: da da da all this stuff. And then they're like, actually,

450
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: we don't really want you to complain to us.

451
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually you're annoying.

452
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for them to just like be done, be like now, Actually,

453
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: the day before your wedding, we're not gonna do anything

454
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: for you.

455
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't come over, be alone.

456
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: Infester. I felt like I was in middle school, rejected

457
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: by my friends, and cried on and off all night

458
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: at home, imagining the night that should have been happening

459
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: at the cabin, or rather the one that was happening

460
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,239
Speaker 3: without me, despite my wedding reception being the reason for

461
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: it in the first place. The morning came, and as

462
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: my husband and I were loading everything into the car,

463
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 3: a situation happened with my mom where my growing fears

464
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: about her cognition came to fool fruition. Basically, she accidentally

465
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: made plans with two different friends the night before to

466
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: get to the reception without realizing, and then when she

467
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: decided to tell she already had a ride, got mad,

468
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: so she told her she wouldn't be coming at all. Then,

469
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: this is a woman I've known my whole life, and

470
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: my mom has been friends with since the nineteen fifties.

471
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: Needless to say, I was distraught, but kept it cool.

472
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: To not upset my mom any further. By the time

473
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: all that was sorted, we weren't going to have time

474
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: to stop at the cabin, so we went straight to

475
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: the shelter where the reception was going to be set

476
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: up and let Made of Honor and out of town

477
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 3: friend know the updated plan. Nothing really changed on their end,

478
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: and the plan was still for them to come before

479
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: the reception started. Maid of Honor what help set up?

480
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: And out of town friend would help put my hair

481
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: up according to this super quick and simple YouTube short

482
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: I had sent her weeks before, and she said she

483
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: could do no problem. Thank god the best man showed

484
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: up to help, because otherwise we would have been getting

485
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: on our own everything ready aside from about fifteen to

486
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: thirty minutes, Made of Honor's husband came by four. That

487
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: was a help. They eventually strolled in about fifteen minutes

488
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: after the start time, when other guests were already arriving.

489
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: Out of town Friend with hair supplies and hands, saying

490
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: she hadn't watched the video I sent her, but we

491
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: could figure something out. As if I was going to

492
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: sit there getting my hair done in playing view instead

493
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: of being hostess and welcoming everyone. I had to tell

494
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: her that ship had sailed and she just wouldn't be

495
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: doing my hair. It would just have to go unstyled.

496
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: She actually looked like she was the one put out

497
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: and disappointed. My mom was there for just a couple hours,

498
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: and I deeply regret not getting pictures with her. About

499
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: halfway through the party, out of town friend approached me

500
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: and thought it was the appropriate time to tell me

501
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: that when she talked to my mom, she seemed often

502
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 3: unhappy and said mean things about the party, like she

503
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: would rather be home and she couldn't believe my friend

504
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: had flown here for this, said with real disdain.

505
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: When she saw me, well, yeah, that's a symptoma cognitive decline,

506
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: being a sort of meaner and nastier.

507
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like weird. I know, I don't know

508
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: your vibes.

509
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yourd vibes from your friend.

510
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: Weird vibe from your mom. When she saw my eyes

511
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: welling up, she said, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to

512
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: upset you. I just thought you should know. At that point,

513
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: she had no idea about what had happened with my

514
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: mom earlier in the day to put her in such

515
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: a mood, so for her it was out of nowhere,

516
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: but still while the party is in full swing and

517
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to enjoy myself, was an absolute inappropriate time

518
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: to come to me with that.

519
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like your friend might just be a

520
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: bit of an airhead. Yeah, where it's like that, Well,

521
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: I just feel like you should know. It's like, well,

522
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: you should do a little mental calculus to know that

523
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: that's just gonna upset me. And now I'm just upset,

524
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: So maybe just don't say that.

525
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: There's a time and to place.

526
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: It's like like showing up somewhere and being like, I

527
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: just want to let everyone know that I saw a

528
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: deer that got hit on the side of the road.

529
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: It's like, why would you say that? That's now we're

530
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: all like that you've just brought out went down.

531
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: It cast a deeper pallor over an already difficult day,

532
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: And I wasn't about to tell my husband my mom

533
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: had said those things and upset him with it too.

534
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: So this is actually the first time I've externalized that interaction.

535
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: I've been carrying it alone. Then my maid of honor

536
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: and the best man told us they were too nervous

537
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: to give toast to the whole party, so we told

538
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: them it was totally understandable, but we'd love to hear

539
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: what they had to say, so we could just toast

540
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: with just us privately. The best man gave us theirs

541
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: and it was beautiful and we all cried. Never heard

542
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: about it from maid of honor again until a couple

543
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: weeks later. The next time we saw each other and

544
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: they apologized they didn't give one, but still not even

545
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: a summary of what they would have said. We had

546
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: talked about giving speeches at each other's weddings since middle school.

547
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: It feels like you've known all these people since middle

548
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: school and they still have the weird little drama habits

549
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: of middle schoolers.

550
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Truthfully, I don't know why they aren't like there

551
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: for you on your big day. They're kind of like

552
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: being very removed and kind of not really caring about

553
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: you and your situation.

554
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean, like, how bad of a vibe were those

555
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: text messages?

556
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: I mean, even if it was you're the bride, like,

557
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, you shouldn't be alone the night before

558
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: your wedding.

559
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird situation to be like, Yeah, in

560
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: light of recent messages and the feelings they have summoned

561
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: in me. We're uncomfortable hanging out with you, even though

562
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: we're here for your wedding. We think that you're actually

563
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: a bad vibe and don't want to hang out with

564
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: you tonight. It's just a girl's night in, but not

565
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: with the bride.

566
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: That's weird. Basically, I feel totally disrespected by the people

567
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: who mean the most to me, and the whole experience

568
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: left me absolutely gut it and partially ruined a once

569
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: in a lifetime event. I can't help but come back

570
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: to all this every time I think back to my reception.

571
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I am so thankful the elopement itself was the most

572
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: beautiful day of our lives, because the reception was a

573
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: complete crap show emotionally. Other than this stuff, it was

574
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 3: day and everyone had a really nice time. And I

575
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: know in the future I'll be glad I stuck it out,

576
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: But right now it is a sore spot that still aches.

577
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: How do I move forward from this? How do I

578
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: mend the memories and the feelings I have towards it

579
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: in my mind so it can be something I treasure.

580
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a secret therapy.

581
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would probably help, especially with the stuff with

582
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: your mom too.

583
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking it out and getting a different perspective like

584
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: you have done now on Reddit. Do that to a

585
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: professional who can help you. That will get you feeling

586
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: way more at ease with all of this, and you

587
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: can talk through your feelings, understand them, know where they're

588
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: coming from, no where others are coming from, and really

589
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: put things in perspective for you.

590
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Therapists are better than Reddit. And that's the end of

591
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: this story. Let's head to the next one. My friend

592
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: asked me to bake for her daughter's wedding, but I

593
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: was the only one not invited.

594
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't bake yourself an invitation, am I?

595
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: Two cents it up? I female fifty one, live in

596
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: a small town and my children go to the local

597
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: small school. Everyone lives in each other's back pocket anyway.

598
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: My sister in law's good friend, Mariah, and I have

599
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: become friends. Maria has been invited to my house multiple

600
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: times for lunch with other girlfriends. Our sons played on

601
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: sports teams together. We've worked the concession stand and other

602
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: school events together, and we generally just get along. Although

603
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: we see less of each other since she went back

604
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: to work three years ago. And I am still a

605
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: stay at home mom. Last year we heard Mariah's adult

606
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: daughter was engaged. Mariah is hosting the wedding at her

607
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: house and asked me if I would make a few

608
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: loaves of sourdough for the reception. I am known for

609
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: my baking and I happily agreed. And by the way,

610
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: this comes from use a big catterpillar forty six sixty

611
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go

612
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota and

613
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm Savannah, and we are gonna read this story and

614
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: we are gonna have things to say, And if you

615
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: have things to say, you can say them in the comments. Huh.

616
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: Opie says. When the wedding got closer, I sent Mariah

617
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: a message and she confirmed she still wanted the bread.

618
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: She's all about that bread. My husband and I were

619
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: not invited to the wedding, but I assumed it was

620
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: just a small family wedding and I know they're on

621
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: a tight budget. Fast forward to the day after the wedding,

622
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: I find out that my mother in law and father

623
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: in law were at the wedding. I expected my sister

624
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: in law to be invited. She remains much closer with Mariah,

625
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: but my husband's parents they are of a different generation

626
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: and to my knowledge, have no direct relationship with Mariah

627
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: or her daughter. I asked my mother in law and

628
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: she told me she sat with Mariah's younger daughter, not

629
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: the bride, at a lot of soccer games. They've never

630
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: had Mariah to their home or vice versa, or have

631
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: anything other than attending the same sporting events when Mariah's

632
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: children and their grandchildren were on the same team.

633
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: So here's my issue.

634
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't begrudge Mariah and her daughter inviting anyone they

635
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: want as a guest, and I really am fine with

636
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: being asked to contribute to the wedding and not being

637
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: invited if it was a small, intimate affair. However, it

638
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: was not small. They invited a lot of people, including

639
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: every adult in our family. But my husband and I

640
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: am I being overly sensitive. Should I say something to

641
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 2: Mariah At this point It's a little late to fix anything,

642
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: but I'm also having a hard time letting it go.

643
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: And there is an update.

644
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: I want to get something straight. Are is she paying

645
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: you to like bake for this wedding? It's for free?

646
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: They were like gifts. It was just like sourdough rolls

647
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: for the wedding. Yeah, it's definitely weird that you weren't invited,

648
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: but I don't think you're gonna accomplish anything at this

649
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: point by bringing it up. I think you just have

650
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: to move forward with the knowledge that your friend is

651
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: a little inconsiderate. I mean, you can say how you feel,

652
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 2: but it might start a conflict. There's an update. I

653
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: love all the suggestions that I send Mariah voice hmm,

654
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: the most passive aggressive thing to do, and the one

655
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: that suggested I ask about the bread and then comment

656
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: how talk spreads around small towns. Actually still laughing when

657
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: I think about those comments. To answer some of the

658
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: questions that came up, there were four ladies in total,

659
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: including Mariah and me, who had lunch at my house

660
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: once a month. The other two were invited to the wedding.

661
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: I do know how close my in laws are to

662
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: both Mariah and her daughter the bride, because I asked

663
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: my mother in law. According to my mother in law,

664
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: she had met the bride once or twice and had

665
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 2: never been at anything social with Mariah or anyone in

666
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: that family other than the high school sports games. I

667
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: hate to expound on that because it wasn't really the point.

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy my mother in law and father in law

669
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 2: went to the wedding. They are wonderful people and they

670
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: deserve a fun night out. I do know the bride.

671
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: She is in between ages of my two oldest children,

672
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't say there's any particular closeness, but I

673
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: know her. Mariah's second child and my son were in

674
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: middle and high school together and on those same teams

675
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: for six years. Those were the years the bride was

676
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: away at college. The bride has not reached out to

677
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: say thank you for the bread. Mariah did thank me

678
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: in advance when we confirmed ahead of time. There were

679
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: around one hundred and eighty guests at the wedding. I

680
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: don't know how many were invited. I would guess one

681
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty.

682
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you read? Not including the wedding crashers.

683
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess it makes more sense if

684
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: it's her daughter's wedding that you might not be invited

685
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: to that if you're not close to the daughter, or

686
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: if your kids aren't close to the daughter.

687
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: All of my mom's friends come to like they come

688
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: to all of our graduations, all of our like kids parties,

689
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: like my and like weddings.

690
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: It just it, it feels. What makes this so weird

691
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: is that you were asked to contribute and then we're

692
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: not invited. That's just a week. It's just strange. It's

693
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: strange energy.

694
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you like know them. I would if

695
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: you're asking, like you know, a company, like to be like,

696
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: oh can you bake me these things? Blah blah blah,

697
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: and then you pay them like a normal transaction. But

698
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: you're asking someone that you know to contribute to your

699
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: wedding but then not actually giving them an invite. I

700
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: think it is a little shady.

701
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Mariah did not offer to pay for the bread.

702
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't sell my bread anyway. It has always been

703
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: strictly a labor of love for close friends and family.

704
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: Thank you commenters for that phrasing. I really cannot imagine

705
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: a way that the invitations got mixed up between my

706
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: in laws and me. Mariah has actually been to my

707
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: house at least ten times and therefore must know my

708
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: address or have a general idea of what it is,

709
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 2: and if they were mixed up or my invitation got

710
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: lost in the mail. Wouldn't someone have contacted me when

711
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: I did an RSVP for the grandma who commented about

712
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: my in laws knowing? Yes, I agree they probably did,

713
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your thoughtful assessment. It feels like there's

714
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: no one you can really be upset at here because again,

715
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: it's like Mariah's daughter's wedding. I don't think the mom

716
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: a final say over who's invited to her daughter's wedding.

717
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. But my if

718
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: someone was doing something for well actually no, Well, okay,

719
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: so here's the thing. Like for my brother's wedding, my

720
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: mom asks like a couple different people to like make

721
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: because we do like cookie tables and stuff, ask them

722
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: to like make different cookies whatever, like very Italian tradition, whatever.

723
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 3: And this one lady made them, but she wasn't invited,

724
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: but we paid her for her services.

725
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: Well, and then I think op pointing out that they've

726
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: never been paid to make the bread makes that a

727
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: little less weird. Yeah, because it's like, if you've never

728
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: done it for money, it makes sense that they wouldn't

729
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: ask or assume that they would pay you. But I

730
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: don't know, just asking someone to make something for a

731
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: wedding usually implies you're coming to the wedding.

732
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: Or at least they're gonna pay you for your services.

733
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: It's just it's weird that there was no further explanation

734
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: of like, can you make some bread for the wedding,

735
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: and like, I'm sorry, you might not be able to

736
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 2: actually come because we have one hundred and eighty people

737
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: and there's already so many people, and it's like, you

738
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: know whatever, I think it would be way different if

739
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: it was Mariah's wedding, but because it's not her wedding,

740
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: it's her daughter's wedding, it just adds there's too many

741
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: layers of like who to go to, Yeah, there's too many.

742
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 2: There's too many layers in this lasagna of like little

743
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: details that put this like really in the gray area.

744
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: For me.

745
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 2: It's like I don't really think anyone's done anything wrong,

746
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: and you should just tell your friend how you feel

747
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: and not make it like and you're a villain for that.

748
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: You just need to be like this is just how

749
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: I feel, and I just want to get it out

750
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: there because we've been friends for like, you're my friend

751
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: and I want to still be your friend, and I

752
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: don't want this to like bubble under and like build resentment,

753
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: so I just want to like let you know that.

754
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

755
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: Update two, I have not said anything to Maria or

756
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: anyone other than my husband. I agree Mariah sees me

757
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: more as an acquaintance that will do favors for her

758
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: as a friend, and I will be handling my interactions

759
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: with her accordingly going forward and truly just being able

760
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: to get the whole story out and read everyone's feedback

761
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: has helped me to move on. So thank you all.

762
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: And finally, the weird climax to this mini drama. About

763
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: two weeks after the wedding, a large bag of bread

764
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: flower appeared in the kitchen. My sister in law told

765
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: me she dropped it off for Mariah, so I sent

766
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: Mariah a text saying thank you for the flower. She

767
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: did not respond or acknowledge that text. I can't wait

768
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: to hear everyone's take on this latest ugh soon. Now

769
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: she's being passive aggressive, so clearly.

770
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: Maybe she doesn't have her number, but also you would

771
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: know if she met should flower be like, oh, yeah,

772
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: that's my most friends or whatever. I don't know. I

773
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: just feel like, you know, I feel like she's not

774
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: being grateful for what you did for her, which is

775
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 3: really annoying.

776
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: Is it what I feel like? Sending you a bag

777
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: of flower would be passive aggressive if she knew, but

778
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: she doesn't because the only person who you told was

779
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: your husband, unless she found the Reddit thread and realized

780
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: it was you. And now she's sending you flower to

781
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: be like, here, so you do so you didn't waste

782
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: any materials, or maybe it is like a low key,

783
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: really thoughtful gesture of like, I know it took flower

784
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: to make this bread, so here, I got you some

785
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: more flower for your sour dough.

786
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think it would be more like that,

787
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: like she is, you know, thanking you, but she should

788
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: have left like a little note on it, be like,

789
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: thank you so much for making the bread. Everyone enjoyed it,

790
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: you know, Uh, here's some something to show my gratitude

791
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: and you know, love Maria or Mayas.

792
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: This is so this story's so ambiguous. It's like the

793
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: most ambiguous story we've ever.

794
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Had, because I feel like there's like so many parts missing,

795
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: and then also I don't know how to feel given

796
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: like all of the information.

797
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, i'd feel like this story over and we've got

798
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: one more coming up.

799
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,279
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800
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,600
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801
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480
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802
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: My father stopped child support after years of being absent.

803
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: I confronted him about everything.

804
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: He probably saved a lot of money.

805
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: My twenty three mail Dad forty nine mail has stopped

806
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: paying any child support for my younger brother nineteen Mail,

807
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: after not paying any child support one hundred and twenty

808
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: pounds a month for either me or my brother between

809
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: the years of twenty eight and twenty twenty. Admittedly, his

810
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: past inability to pay has not entirely been his fault,

811
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: and my mom has ensured that me and my brother

812
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: grew up as well as possible given the circumstances. My dad, however,

813
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: has been through many rough circumstances over the last decade plus.

814
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: He got facial terminal illness that caused him to lose

815
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: an eye, accompanied by a difficult marriage with my stepmother

816
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: that went on until twenty twenty, when he was able

817
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 3: to get away. By the way, this comes from Mega

818
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: Humanoid Robot. If you want to sumit your own stories,

819
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: go to the r sash okay storytime subern and I'm Savannah,

820
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm Riley, and we're here to talk about some things.

821
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Maybe give some advice. I don't know, but your job

822
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 3: is to give more advice down in the comments. Ain't

823
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 3: as oh piece sas. I do not begrudge him being

824
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: unable to pay. However, Ever, since twenty twenty, he's been

825
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: in a sound financial and social position after finding his

826
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: third and current wife and moving in with her. Oh

827
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: he has a stable government job with good pay, and

828
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: recently he's had a large lump sum of money given

829
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 3: to him directly from what oh, people passing. I guess

830
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: maybe inheritance.

831
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: Oh I oh, that's a good point.

832
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

833
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: I was like, so people in the government gives him money.

834
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: How does that work?

835
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: You bet on them?

836
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: You bet on them? Or howshi? Yeah, this guy's going

837
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: on December twenty six got them? Oh wow, looks like

838
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna say you got him?

839
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Gosh, who would have thought all this to say he

840
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: can currently afford child support when he historically could never

841
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: He started paying it during twenty twenty by the urging

842
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: of his newest wife to help with the VID lockdown.

843
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: He paid mine between the ages of eighteen and nineteen,

844
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: and started paying my brother at the age of fourteen fifteen.

845
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: The exact dates are fuzzy to me, but this last

846
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Friday he's decided he's paid enough to my brother and

847
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 3: has stopped paying his child support.

848
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: Well, he's still got a few years left.

849
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: Though legally, I of course know he doesn't have to

850
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: pay it anymore, nor has he historically paid it in

851
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: the past, because my mom has forgiven the payments due

852
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: to his circumstances. Morally, however, I feel he owes us,

853
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: or at least he owes my brother. He hasn't done

854
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: much for us throughout our lives, and this child support

855
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: was some of the little minimal support he has provided

856
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: towards raising us.

857
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't have a dad, us a juice

858
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: donor Yeah.

859
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: Basically, in the past he's been preoccupied with himself in

860
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: his terminal illness, or with the children he had with

861
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: his previous wife, my half brothers and the fact that

862
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: she held them away from him in order to torment

863
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: him again. I do not blame him for forgetting about

864
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: me and my brother in the past and letting us

865
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 3: sit on the back burner, but him stopping all support

866
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: of us feels like a betrayal, like he's saying, I've

867
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: supported you, would not figure it out yourself. I had

868
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 3: hoped that since he was now in a stable position,

869
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: he would have stepped up and been our dad and

870
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: given us that opportunity and support he was unable to

871
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: provide throughout our childhood. Him no longer paying just says

872
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: to me that he's washing his hands of any responsibilities

873
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: towards us. He wants to be a cool uncle figure

874
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: who takes us out for drinks occasionally and makes us

875
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: pay for our own instead of being a father. I mean,

876
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: he's taken his current wife out on six holidays over

877
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: the past two years with her sons and my stepbrother

878
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: is when they can get them. But me and my

879
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: brother haven't been on any holidays with him. The only

880
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: holiday we will have with him is a trip across

881
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: Europe we will be having later this year after years. Okay,

882
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: but that's kind of nice, though, trip across the year

883
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: after like not having one at all. I don't know,

884
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: I could probably.

885
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: Forgive a little bit you cash in on that one.

886
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: Your dad has been a part of your life at all,

888
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: and he all of a sudden, Hey, trip across Europe.

889
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: You gotta forgive me though you cash it in on that?

890
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Would you settle for I'll take a trip to kankun

891
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: and a few thousand dollars.

892
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: I'd probably take the trip to Europe if he's buying

893
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: like it. But the thing is he probably isn't. He's

894
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: probably like, oh, yeah, like we're gonna go, but like

895
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: by your own.

896
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Ticket, he's not serious about it.

897
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I don't know. I don't know. Doesn't seem

898
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: like he's too serious. He has never been there.

899
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: Well, he's been serious with the other two families.

900
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a bull crab. And I've never really complained

901
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: too much about this, but it does just feel like

902
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: me and my brother have only ever been an afterthought

903
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: in his life, and I don't think we've ever gone

904
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: the support we've needed. It feels like I don't have

905
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: a dad, just a man with that title who remembers

906
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: us every once in a while, and now he can't

907
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: even be asked to give my brother one hundred and

908
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: twenty pounds a month to support him as he transitions

909
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: into adult life. While his current was life is posting

910
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: about how he took her to an expensive restaurant on

911
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: the very night when he took away that little bit

912
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: of support he gave.

913
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: Dang, he has failed you as a father and a dad.

914
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: It's like, instead of a dad, we have an uncle

915
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: who we see a handful of times a year, who's

916
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: trying to be our friend rather than someone with responsibility

917
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: in our lives. So would I be the angle for

918
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: telling him what I think of him right now that

919
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: he's a selfish beaster who has decided he doesn't want

920
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: to be our dad. I'm so angry my hands are shaking,

921
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: but I need to know if I even have the

922
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: right to yell at him like this. Thanks for reading,

923
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: and there is an edit. I would have to say.

924
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that you're wrong in sticking up for

925
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: your brother and being like, hey, it's not cool you.

926
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: You literally just got this some lump of money and

927
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: you're just gonna, you know, spend it on like things

928
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: that you want rather than like pay your debt to

929
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: your children. So I think that's that's pretty crappy.

930
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand when people say you get a practice

931
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: family around here, can't have three. You gotta treat the

932
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: first one at least with some sort of love.

933
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, the first one's usually practice.

934
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: What you get some money, can't just keep him as practice.

935
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Gotta show him some love. And what happened to your wife,

936
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: your current third wife, that was so like an angel?

937
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: Why would her she said, Oh, maybe that money should

938
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: now go to my kids?

939
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: What happened there?

940
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: But this is on you, dad, Come on, come on.

941
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 3: Isn't that it? I'm financially fine off. This is less

942
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: about the actual money and more about his support and

943
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: him being a dang dad And getting real tired of

944
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: repeating myself when I say it's not about the money.

945
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: Really it was one hundred and twenty pounds a month.

946
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: That's not much, but what it represented was him being

947
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: a dad. Also, some of you guys are acting like

948
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: it's the first time you've actually heard of child support.

949
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: There's an update a month later.

950
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I spoke to my dad.

951
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: At the time originally writing this post, the news was

952
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 3: fresh and I was quite angry, but reading the helpful

953
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: comments I received let me calm down a bit and

954
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: formulate my feelings into actual words. I took a week

955
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: to plan a conversation that would be more than me

956
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 3: just yelling at my dad. I sent him a message

957
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: that we needed to talk and should meet up to

958
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: have a discussion over a drink at a local place

959
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: somewhere we could both have privacy and talk comfortably. So

960
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: I spent that time until Friday preparing for the conversation.

961
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: I twenty three Mail, have had a complex relationship with

962
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: my dad, with lots of hard feelings, but I realized

963
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: that it wasn't really about the money for me. I

964
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: didn't see a penny of it anyways, as the child

965
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: support payments for my brother nineteen Mail all went to

966
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: my mom to help support us, and that's what the

967
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 3: crux of my issue was about. For most of my life,

968
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: my dad, mostly through little faults of his own, had

969
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: been unable to support me and my brother, from the

970
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: difficult marriage he was in with his second ex wife

971
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: to his terminal illness diagnosis. Me and my brother had

972
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: always been put to one side and left to struggle

973
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: on our own growing up. Our mom slowly unlive to

974
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: herself supporting us, and though we've been doing our best

975
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: to pay her back, it's clear that the toll of

976
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: raising us has been heavy. While from our point of view,

977
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: our dad did very little, not even financially supporting the

978
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: raising of us. For fifteen years of my life, my

979
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: dad paid child support for a very little amount of

980
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: time and didn't help raise us much. Outside of that.

981
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: It built a resentment within me. And when my dad

982
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: stopped paying child support for my brother a few months back,

983
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: I was outraged.

984
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh he had to do one siple act. It was

985
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: monetarily some money. But if you look at how much

986
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: it is nannying people, I don't know how much is it?

987
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: How much is it nanny day for an hour?

988
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, it depends.

989
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: Are you like weekday?

990
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: Oh?

991
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: Like just the week day, Tuesday, Tuesday?

992
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: Are you like living there? Are you living? Oh? Then

993
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: it's between like twenty five thirty five dollars an hour.

994
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Twenty five through thirty hundred and sixty. Well, let's just

995
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: see how much this guy could be monetarily. Okay, one's

996
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: sixty because that's how much it is usd by thirty.

997
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: We're just asking for five hours a week for your time, dude.

998
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: Five hours a week, no, no, no, five hours a month.

999
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Take that back one hundred and sixty over a month,

1000
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: five hours a month.

1001
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it's truthfully not not asking for much.

1002
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: This really isn't.

1003
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's gone this far without doing it,

1004
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: so I feel like he just he hasn't heard their

1005
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: side because he's been all over and he and the

1006
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: moment's been forgiving him. He has other families to worry about.

1007
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: I guess all those years of no support, and then

1008
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: when my dad was in a stable position where he

1009
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: could support us, he stopped altogether after a small amount

1010
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: of time. That didn't feel enough. I was angry because

1011
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: I resented him. I used to see my dad on

1012
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: the weekends in a miserable home of which we had

1013
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: no room to ourselves for privacy. From the ages of

1014
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: eight to eighteen. Whenever I visited my dad, I slept

1015
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: on the floor of the living room in a house

1016
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: that triggers me for the difficult times I witnessed playing

1017
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: second fiddle to a woman we didn't get along with.

1018
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: Of course, I grew resentful of my dad after I

1019
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: stopped visiting my day at all. He got in a

1020
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: better situation and started living better, and I felt I

1021
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: saw none of that greater standard. I felt that for

1022
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: most of my life I had no dad. These were

1023
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: complex feelings. I loved my dad, but he was never

1024
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: an actual dad to me, and my brothers, and that

1025
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: child's support, what little of it he sent, felt like

1026
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: the most fatherly support he had offered throughout my life,

1027
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: something that helped put food on our table and heat

1028
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: in our home. So it was frustrating when he cut

1029
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: it off. Armed with this insight, I went to have

1030
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: the chat with Dad.

1031
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Oh.

1032
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 3: The conversation went really well. I spoke with dud about

1033
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: how I felt that I knew that he had it

1034
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: rough and it wasn't easy, but that doesn't mean that

1035
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: it was okay that I was without his support. I

1036
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: had it rough growing up. He knows that as well

1037
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: as I do, and that I really needed him and

1038
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: he just wasn't there for that. It wasn't an easy conversation,

1039
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 3: but he understood completely and he apologized. He was sorry

1040
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: that he wasn't there for me or my brother. That

1041
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: I was someone who was an idealist at heart, and

1042
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: that I could understand how how I saw the child

1043
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: support that way. We both agreed that what I really

1044
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: wanted was for him to be a dad to me.

1045
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: He spoke about his own dad, my granddad, and about

1046
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: how he doesn't really talk to him at all because

1047
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: he basically stopped caring for my dad around sixteen and

1048
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 3: left him defend for himself, and how they only talk

1049
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: now whenever my dad reaches out to him, and I

1050
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: simply said that I did not want that kind of

1051
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: relationship with him. I wanted him to be my father,

1052
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: for him to be there and support me and my

1053
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 3: brother about how I felt like that has been lacking

1054
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: and how angry that made me.

1055
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Okay, now you're sharing your emotions. I like this.

1056
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what OPI was doing the whole time.

1057
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: It was never about the money, and like he said that,

1058
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: the whole time, it's never about you know, you need

1059
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: to pay me, you need to pay mom, you need

1060
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: to pay my brother. It was always just about I

1061
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: just want you to step up. I just want you

1062
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: to just be there in my life for once.

1063
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: Pay the one hundred and twenty pounds, or just be

1064
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: around for a couple hours a month.

1065
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, really not that hard. There's no easy fix to

1066
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: this problem. He has his own life life and so

1067
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: many responsibilities, but we both agree we want to be

1068
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: more involved in each other's lives. He wants to be

1069
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: my dad more than anything, to offer his support more

1070
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: going forward. Apparently he never even really stopped the payments,

1071
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: only said he would in a text to my mom.

1072
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 3: But when it came time to cancel the payment request

1073
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: with the bank, he just didn't. Okay.

1074
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: So he has been paying.

1075
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 3: The whole time when he can.

1076
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.

1077
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: So I guess there was a He texted the the

1078
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 3: opie's mom and was like, Hey, I'm going to stop

1079
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: the payments. But then like the bank was like actually

1080
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: and then the bank uh, they sent like the request

1081
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: to the bank, but then like he was like, never mind.

1082
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no follow up said the request of the

1083
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: bank once. Ah, you probably had it in the mail.

1084
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. There should have been one wiffort on

1085
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: that side. On that side, you can hand people on

1086
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: any cash envelope. I don't know.

1087
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, get.

1088
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Get get done with this story. I'm freaking done with it.

1089
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: I like we're coming to a conclusion. Yeah, this is lovely.

1090
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: Do I trust him? No?

1091
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: But this is your.

1092
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: Life one though his current wife doesn't know that. I

1093
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 3: don't know if this is true. He could be twisting

1094
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: the truth, but I don't care that child support payments

1095
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: would still be going through. We hugged. I told him

1096
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: that I'm glad he's my dad despite everything, and that

1097
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: I loved him. We both cried. Going forward, he's going

1098
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: to try to be more involved with me and my

1099
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: brother's life, to help us and support us where he can.

1100
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: Only the future will tell if this will come true really,

1101
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: but for now, I'm really hopeful that I will actually

1102
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: have that father's son relationship I've always wanted with him.

1103
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 3: So thank you everyone who actually gave advice. You helped

1104
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: me come to him with a conversation instead of a

1105
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: shouting match. Happy holidays everyone. Oh well, I guess it.

1106
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean, only time will tell. You're right, Yeah, but

1107
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I think it healed a part of you, though,

1108
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: OPI to like open up and be emotional like that,

1109
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: and to give that side of you towards him. I

1110
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: don't think you know, who knows if you've ever really

1111
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: had like a sit down conversation about this stuff.

1112
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that perspective. I was really on

1113
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: the dan. Oh, that's super mature, though. You need to

1114
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: be able to have conversations with people you've resented in

1115
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: the past, become an adults. If you don't, God, who

1116
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: knows what will happen to this guy? Bottled it up

1117
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life.

1118
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: Like my mom always says, like resentful resent being resentful

1119
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: just holds so much space, like in your heart, and

1120
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: you like, sometimes you just need to let that go

1121
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 3: in order to become more full and more more fulfilled

1122
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: in your life.

1123
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: Well, Shrek said better out than in.

1124
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: That's not exactly what that means.

1125
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: Always better out than in.

1126
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. Let's head to

1127
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: the next one. Hey, it's Dakota, your favorite good time

1128
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,680
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1129
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,920
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1130
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: My cousin tricked her sister into being the maid of honor,

1131
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: then sabotaged her.

1132
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 3: Oh come on, that's not cool.

1133
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: So I had this whole long post written up to

1134
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: shame the heck out of this one particular bride and

1135
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: groom that I know of, but no amount of writing

1136
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: could possibly cover the extent of their tackiness. So let

1137
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: me just jump into the biggest shame of them all, well,

1138
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: one of many. All of you readers need to know

1139
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: that the bride in question is my first cousin and

1140
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: the maid of honor is her sister. The maid of

1141
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: honor and bride have never had a good relationship, mostly

1142
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: thanks to truly unhinged behavior on the bride's part, but

1143
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: because both still lived at home during the time. During

1144
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: the wedding. When the bride asked her sister to be

1145
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: the maid of honor, family politics made it impossible for

1146
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: sister to say no unless she wanted to start a

1147
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: world war and get out of her own house. By

1148
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: the way, this comes from nice day for a wit

1149
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: a witty weeding. And if you want to s old stories,

1150
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: you know where to go. I'm Riley and I'm Savannah,

1151
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: and we're gonna read these stories, goofully.

1152
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: And we're gonna give you some advice maybe, and then

1153
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna give us some advice in the comments.

1154
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: That's freaking right. Fast forward to sister approaching the bride

1155
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: about her decision, and here's where the shaming comes in.

1156
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: All the time, nid of Honor had just gotten laid

1157
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: off and was on unemployment. Safe to say, her concern

1158
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: was with saving money, not spending it, especially considering her

1159
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: precarious relationship with her parents. She was also growing increasingly

1160
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: nervous as responsibilities like the bridal shower and the bachelorette

1161
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: party grew nearer, especially because the bride kept telling anyone

1162
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: and everyone how elaborate and how amazing and how fancy

1163
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: the bridal shower in particular was going to be.

1164
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: So.

1165
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: Imagine, after being laid off at your nanny job, your

1166
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: sister told you to go plan a bridle shower and

1167
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: achuelette party, and it has to be perfect when you

1168
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: also have to use your own money you've been saving.

1169
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: Go, I mean, go yesterday. I mean I would try to,

1170
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: but I'd be like, just so you know, I'm not

1171
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: going to do the best job with the circumstances that

1172
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: I have been given.

1173
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: And if you disappoint your parents at all, you get

1174
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: out no home for you.

1175
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: I mean I would just I would have to just

1176
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: get out of there some way or another. If I

1177
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: had a friend or someone else.

1178
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. Despite the sisters strained relationship, Maide of Honor

1179
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: still wanted to do something nice for the bride, but

1180
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: was worried she would not be able to give the

1181
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: bride the kind of party she wanted, So the Maid

1182
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: of Honor approaches the bride to have a serious conversation

1183
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: about the reality of her economic status. Okay, nice move.

1184
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: During this conversation, made of Honor delicately suggests the possibility

1185
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: of making the bride best friend her maid of honor,

1186
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: who was actually employed and truly wanted to be the

1187
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: maid of honor more than anyone else, which would have

1188
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: made more sense. It's considering how strange the sisters really were.

1189
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: I like the suggestion.

1190
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's pretty cool, just being like,

1191
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: it's very it's very good to admit when you can't

1192
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: do something kind of hard. But you know, I love

1193
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: admitting that I can't do anything interesting.

1194
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: I'll keep an eye on that. The bride acknowledges this

1195
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: would have been a good idea, but proceeds to explain

1196
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: that her best friend is just too broke to do

1197
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: anything for her. Sorry, the friend that has a job

1198
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: is too broke for her. But my broke butt is

1199
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: going to give you what you want.

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: Me being recently unemployed, and.

1201
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I quote, I was there for this exchange. Bro Penelope

1202
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: is broke. She's way too poor to be my maid

1203
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: of honor. What could she possibly do for me?

1204
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's so selfish?

1205
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: What?

1206
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: Oh? Egetistical too? That's her best friend, but she doesn't

1207
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: have money, So she's knocked down to second place.

1208
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: Now she might not be invited into the wedding.

1209
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it seems like it's going that way.

1210
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: My jaw just about hit the floor listening to her

1211
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: trash her best friend as if her only worth in

1212
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: the wedding was based upon what she could do financially

1213
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: for the bride, But it was how the bride treated

1214
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: everything and everyone involved in the wedding, as if we

1215
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: were all financial transactions. Savannah, we are one fourth of

1216
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: the way through here. We got an updates. Do we

1217
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: have a Bridezilla on her hands?

1218
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh my gosh.

1219
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: Do we have a greedy, money hungry Bridezilla on her hands?

1220
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a gold digger Bridezilla.

1221
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: There is a very special like there's like the Bridezillas

1222
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: that are just bat crap crazy.

1223
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: They just want I think Bridezilla gets tossed around a

1224
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: lot when people have a specific vision in mind that it,

1225
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: you know, but then it's not turning out how I

1226
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: wanted it to be, and then you kind of like

1227
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: freak out, like, oh my gosh, no, I wanted these flowers,

1228
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: Oh I wanted these pictures, this set up, this, you know,

1229
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 3: whatever and so I think like there's some people pople

1230
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: who are just very controlling and want things to go perfectly,

1231
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: But then there's other people who like will like ruin

1232
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: someone's life just to get you know, the day of

1233
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: days for them.

1234
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: Well, you guys asked for it. So here it is

1235
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: update to warning. This post is like extra extra extra

1236
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: extra extra large. Let me set the stage to begin.

1237
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: We have our infamous booge Bride, master of manipulation and

1238
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: terrible tantrums. Oh okay, but let me also introduce our

1239
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: ghetto groom.

1240
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

1241
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: Whose misery minds and supreme stinginess is a superpower upon itself.

1242
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: Entirely together they make for one of the most disagreeable

1243
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: dynamic duos out there. As you all know, well, there

1244
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: are some major beef between Bougie Bride and Made of Honor.

1245
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: But let me expound on the finer points of the

1246
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: sister relationship so you can get more of a nuance

1247
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: understanding of why everyone was so surprised the bougie bride

1248
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: even asked her sister to be the maid of honor

1249
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: in the first place. Growing up, Boogie Bride had anger

1250
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: issues and was a pathological liar, compulsive stealer, and an

1251
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: extremely self absorbed person. She stole made of honors, makeup,

1252
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: video games, clothes, and even sketches made of honor was

1253
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: and is a great artist and passed them on as

1254
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: if they were her own. This wasn't your guarded variety

1255
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: typical sibling copying sibling stuff. This was some serious, next

1256
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: level single white female. I want to wear your skin, creepiness.

1257
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: You have a way with words ofeing ell. It also

1258
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: completely stripped Made of Honors of any identity because everyone

1259
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: would ascribe made of Honors personality traits to Boogie Bride

1260
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: and act as if made of Honor never did liked

1261
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: was interested in said hobby at all. For example, when

1262
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: Bougie Bride stole Made of Honors drawings, her mother pretended

1263
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: like made of Honor never drew to begin with and

1264
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: began to only nurture and encourage Bougie Bride to draw.

1265
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: What that's messed up?

1266
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: The mom's even in on this.

1267
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that, And I feel bad because then that sister,

1268
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: the Maid of Honor sister, she literally is just in

1269
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: her shadow when she's the one creating these masterpieces. But

1270
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 3: then like she has to be like, no, no, I

1271
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: have to feel bad for my sister because she can't

1272
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 3: do it, And it's like, no, how about celebrate what

1273
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: you can do, not what someone can.

1274
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: For Christmas, she bought Boogie Bride a beautiful art set,

1275
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: not Made of Honor. These things happened regularly and created

1276
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: a lot of tension between the sisters over the years.

1277
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Their mother also never believed Made of Honor when she

1278
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: told her Boogie Bride was stealing, despite solid evidence from

1279
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: multiple sources and family members. And Dad is a diupe

1280
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: who buries his head in the sand when any kind

1281
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: of problem props up. So neither Boogie Bride nor Made

1282
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: of Honor had much guidance growing up. And unfortunately Mom

1283
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: really enabled Bougie Bride more than she helped her. And

1284
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: gas Li it Made of Honor to the point where

1285
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: there is some serious family dysfunction between everyone. Oh wow,

1286
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: we got some more here, but this is exhausting, bro.

1287
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much to like take into consideration here.

1288
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: And then also this family just sucks. Oh yeah, and

1289
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: it sucks for the Maid of Honor. I mean, she

1290
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: seems like she's doing everything that she can, but it's

1291
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: never good enough.

1292
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: If made of honor wanted to work through all these issues.

1293
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: She would have to have six therapists beside her at

1294
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: every session just to go through everything that they could

1295
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: possibly do. You know what I'm saying.

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: And then here comes Bride being like, I want therapy

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01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: and I want those six.

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01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: There you go to further exemplify the kind of human

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: being Bougie Bride is growing up. She cheated on all

1300
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: of her boyfriend, flirted with all of her friend's boyfriends,

1301
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: thought all her female friends were jealous of her to

1302
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: the point that she accused two of them of stalking her.

1303
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: They weren't, thought all of her guy friends were in

1304
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: love with her, and even went so far as to

1305
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: accuse her sister of stealing her best friend. The friendship.

1306
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: Theft in question is still a pretty sore point and

1307
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: actually created a huge rift within the family that spanded

1308
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: several years. I knew that's what it was, the sister

1309
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: stole someone. So with the necessary context out of the way,

1310
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: let's move on to the wedding. We just got a

1311
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: prequel within this update bank. The first sign of what

1312
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: was to come was probably right after the engagement. You

1313
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: already know the drama about Bougie Bride picking her sister

1314
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: as maid of honor. But before Maid of Honor could

1315
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: even pick a venue, Bougie Bride and the groom were

1316
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: already thinking about all the presents they were gonna get.

1317
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that makes sense. All she cares about

1318
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: is what she's getting out of everyone else.

1319
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: You're right. That's why people go to college is to

1320
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: get graduated. They'll go to college for fun, They to get.

1321
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: It for the paper, to get graduated.

1322
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: I can't I can't really blame this couple. You know,

1323
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: they're thinking of the endgame, the benefits of getting married.

1324
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: No, they're thinking of what they can like the benefits. No,

1325
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: they're thinking what they can like, Uh, what is it

1326
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: grunch squeeze, squeeze, Yeah they yeah, they want to like,

1327
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: they want to know what they can squeeze out of everyone.

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: I think they're reaping the benefits and thinking proactively about that.

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: No, before Maid of Honor had that talk with Bougie

1331
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Bride from the last post, Boogie Bride and groom came

1332
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 1: up with the idea that they were going to keep

1333
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: a master list of who gave them what at the

1334
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: bridal shower, with a note on how much each person

1335
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 1: spent on them.

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, see, that's just you're being ungrateful. Do you think, well,

1337
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: you only spent twenty dollars on our gifts?

1338
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: So uninvited, Savannah, This wasn't really the issue.

1339
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: Oh what was that?

1340
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: Seems like a big to me, as lots of people

1341
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: do this, But it was the way she talked about

1342
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: it that was cringe. I'll never forget the vehemence behind

1343
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: her words when she explained her reasoning for the list.

1344
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: If that cheap witches ain't getting a penny more from

1345
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: me when it comes to going to their wedding, they'll

1346
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: get what they get.

1347
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that checks out.

1348
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: The wedding was never about people to come together to

1349
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: celebrate boogie bride and grooms happiness. It was always about

1350
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: how much they could get for as little effort as possible.

1351
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: It didn't help that these sentiments were echoed and supported

1352
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: tenfold by grooms mom and grandmother. Anyways. So okay, so

1353
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: that's just it. We're not even on the update yet.

1354
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: We're still in the prequel part. Get to it, Ope,

1355
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: come on, we get it. She's horrible anyway, Lots of

1356
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: you wont an update on made of Honor's response was

1357
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: to Bougie Bride's petty dig at her best friend, basically,

1358
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: Made of Honor politely told her she understood, but that,

1359
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: considering she was unemployed and trying to save more money,

1360
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: whatever she was planning to do would most likely be

1361
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: small and intimate. I mean, you can't afford that much.

1362
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: The thing you need to know about Boogie Bride is

1363
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: if you don't talk to her like she's a small child,

1364
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: she tends to get very angry and uncompromising. So Maid

1365
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: of Honor really had to say yes to her about

1366
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: her best friend being too poor to be her married

1367
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: of honor while simultaneously also being like, hey, I'm poor too.

1368
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: Boogie Bride wasn't thrilled, but kind of had to be

1369
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: okay with it, being that Bougie Bride previously lost all

1370
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: of her other friends over the years, she literally didn't

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: have anyone else's ask not.

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01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: That's when you have to look in the mirror and

1373
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: be like, do I like myself? Do I like what

1374
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: I give to others?

1375
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? If you show me your five best friends, they'll

1376
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 1: show you who you are. And you don't even have

1377
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: five people around you.

1378
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I see my thing is like if

1379
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: I ever get married, I don't know how to not

1380
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: include it like everyone, like I have like three you.

1381
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: Don't have to put me in like the brides. I'm okay,

1382
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: I'll be okay if you don't choose me.

1383
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, no, all right, well I'll step down, okay, cool,

1384
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: all right, Well there's one awful, but like I mean,

1385
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 3: I have like friends back home, like childhood best friends. Friends,

1386
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: I have here friends I had in college, and I'm like,

1387
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 3: oh and like cousins even I'm like, oh my god,

1388
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 3: I want you know.

1389
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: Whatever, but I just too much.

1390
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: I have two sisters and they will both be I

1391
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: will have two made of honors, right, and they will

1392
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 3: both be my sisters because I'm not choosing between them.

1393
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Coin flip yeah right. Buji Bride was also definitely expecting

1394
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: something extravagant, whether Maid of Honor spent a lot of

1395
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: money or a little, because Made of Honor and myself,

1396
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: the only two people who would be helping with the

1397
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: bridal shower, are known for our parties. Design and party

1398
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: planning are kind of our thing. We do something special

1399
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: for every occasion, even if we can't spend money, and

1400
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: always tried to do over the extra mile. Boogie Bride

1401
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: told Maid of Honor to her face this was one of,

1402
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: if not deciding factoring in why she chose her for

1403
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: the role. Well, Made of Honor being the nice person

1404
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: I said, she was felt bad for Bougie Bride. She

1405
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: still wanted to do something over the top, and she

1406
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: made the fatal mistake of suggesting something rather unconventional. Made

1407
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: of Honor told Bougie Bride that if she was okay

1408
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: with it, instead of having a bridle shower, they could

1409
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: skip the shower and go all out for the bachelorette party.

1410
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: She suggested this in part because Bougie Bride was a

1411
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: very unorthodox bride in the sense that she didn't even

1412
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: want to get married. It was mostly the result of

1413
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: pressure from the groom, and explicitly said she didn't care

1414
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: about a bridal shower and really didn't want one. So

1415
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: the Maid of Honor came up with the idea that

1416
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: all the brides made and Bougie Bride would instead go

1417
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: on a destination vacation to a tropical luxury spa where

1418
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: everything would of course be paid for. Bougie Bride Savannah.

1419
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: Sounds like a plan.

1420
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: I'd be into it, But Savannah, you're missing one thing. No,

1421
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: who's paying for it?

1422
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

1423
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: Who's paying for all this destination, wedding, luxury spa, all

1424
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: the things. Who's doing it?

1425
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: Not me?

1426
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: I know it's not you.

1427
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: Who is not made of honor.

1428
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: It is made of honor.

1429
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: But she can't she can't afford that.

1430
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,839
Speaker 1: Well, she's gonna have to find some credit cards.

1431
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: Ohnor.

1432
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Needless to say, Bougie Bride loved this idea. When we

1433
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: approached the other two bridesmaids and asked them for dates,

1434
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: they said it didn't really work for them. To illustrate

1435
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: the bride's selfishness, she told us, bro I could care

1436
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: less if they can make it. I don't need to

1437
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: spend time with them. If I have to go alone,

1438
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: I will. I just want to go to the spa.

1439
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: It was just going to be the three of us,

1440
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: and Bougie Bride kept gushing about how excited she was

1441
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: and bragging to Groom about where we were taking her.

1442
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: She's about to get let down real fast.

1443
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: I wish we made it to the spa. Good readers,

1444
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: you know how it goes around these parts. No good

1445
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: deed goes on.

1446
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: The punished, That dead goes unpunished, all right, wicked.

1447
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: Fast forward about a week, Maid of Honor gets called

1448
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: downstairs by her parents to have a talk. We exchange

1449
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: nervous glances because the only time her parents want to

1450
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: talk to their kids is when they want to chastise

1451
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: them for something. But nothing could prepare me for what

1452
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 1: was about to come.

1453
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 3: What's about to come.

1454
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they were about to get married. I

1455
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 1: think it's all a ruse. That's my that's my com.

1456
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 3: I feel like they're meant to be, though, because they

1457
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: both are very superficial and annoying and self absorbed. So

1458
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 3: I think it's match made in heaven.

1459
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: Turns out, Bugie Bride went behind Made of Honors back

1460
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: and told her parents that Made of Honor sat her

1461
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: down and told her she wasn't getting a bridal shower

1462
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: because she couldn't afford it.

1463
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: Well, it's true.

1464
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: Boujiebride told parents that she was really upset about this,

1465
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: but that Made of Honor didn't care because she had

1466
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: to do what was in her best interest. Made of

1467
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: Honor was not happy, and her parents chewed her out

1468
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: for being a bad sister. Made of Honor told her

1469
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: parents the truth that Bougie Bride was basically a stark,

1470
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: raving lunatic who made the whole thing up, but parents

1471
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: didn't care. Inevitably, it ended with parents threatening Maid of

1472
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: Honor to either throw a bridal shower or a serious repercussions.

1473
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: It's just that, how is that fair? Why do you

1474
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 3: want to put your other daughter in debt in order

1475
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: to like just have your selfish daughter be like, yeah,

1476
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: she just she's making me feel really bad that she

1477
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 3: can't afford it, and like, I just don't know what

1478
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to do. I Arnie said, I wanted this

1479
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 3: laviest thing. Everyone's expecting something lavish, and now she said

1480
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: she can't afford it. How rude of her? Like girl

1481
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: also to say, sir.

1482
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

1483
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 3: It's annoying.

1484
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 1: It is annoying, And Made of Honor through a bridal shower,

1485
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: Made of Honor figured out a way to pay for

1486
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: a small and intimate gathering at a nearby restaurant that

1487
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: had really lovely atmosphere. Made of Honor was still just

1488
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: over two k out of pocket, but the venue accommodated

1489
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: about twenty five people, and most importantly, everyone was happy

1490
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: or so we thought, well, everyone was not happy, least

1491
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: of all Boogie Bride. Turns out twenty five people was

1492
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: not nearly enough accommodation for our precious princess, at the

1493
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: encouragement of groom's meddling mom, who kept insisted they needed

1494
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: at least one hundred guests because omg presence, Oogie Bride

1495
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: came crying to her little boy in Blue Song to

1496
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: mom and dad. Yet again, I guess parents weren't as

1497
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: stupid as they gave them credit for, because even they

1498
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: recognized Maide of Honor wouldn't be able to do much

1499
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: about Boogie Bride's ridiculous demands for a larger venue. They

1500
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: actually tried to negotiate with Boogie Bride, but Boogie Bride

1501
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: was equipped with the whispers of meddling mother in law

1502
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: who was just as adamant about a larger venue. So

1503
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: after a rather exhausting back and forth and the occasional

1504
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: outbursts of Bougie Bride's tears, what do you think the

1505
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: parents did?

1506
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: I think that well, I don't know, because it seems

1507
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: like now they might not be taken herside. Originally I

1508
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: would say, oh, they were probably like they probably went

1509
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: up to the maid of honor and was like, what's

1510
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: wrong with you? Me me, me, me, me, all this stuff,

1511
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 3: you know. But now I'm thinking they're probably gonna be

1512
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: like listen, and they're gonna put that bride in her place.

1513
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: Turns out they went out and rented a larger venue

1514
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: space and then they paid for it.

1515
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,440
Speaker 3: All we were making progress.

1516
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: Holy cow.

1517
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Meddling mother in law, after being the

1518
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: ringley of the larger venue equals more present movement than

1519
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: it offered to pay a dime.

1520
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: That's crazy to have that idea and then just be like, yeah,

1521
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 3: and you're gonna pay for it if.

1522
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: You want one hundred guests. That's a wedding.

1523
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 3: Literally one hundred guests for a bridle shower. Like I

1524
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: think max should be like maybe thirty thirty thirty fehn't know,

1525
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 3: like that even seems like it's pushing it.

1526
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: I probably just be like close family and friends.

1527
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't have to be every single person you're

1528
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: ever inviting.

1529
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: Ever, the bridle shower ended up being held at meddling

1530
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: mother's in law's house due to personal reasons, mostly being

1531
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: that if parents were paying for the shower, they wanted

1532
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: the guest list to be split evenly between bougie bride's

1533
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: family and groom's family room, and meddling mother in law

1534
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: only really cared about his side of the family, so

1535
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: holding it at meddling mother in law's house allowed them

1536
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: to curate the guest list to their specifications, which made

1537
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: for one heck of an awkward shower, but that's for

1538
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: another Bougie Bride update entirely so. In short, Bougie Bride's

1539
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: theatrics were really nothing and we all had to be

1540
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: suggested to a terrible bridle shower. Anyways, we got a

1541
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: little bit left here. I feel bad for Maid of

1542
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Honor because she still has another party to attend.

1543
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to plan technically two more, because this is

1544
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: just the bridal shower, and now she also has to

1545
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 3: do the bridle or the bachelorette party and the wedding.

1546
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, don't even get me started on the wedding.

1547
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 3: She's got someone's gotta pay for that spa.

1548
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: The greatest part was that, when all was said and done,

1549
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: neither parents or a meddling mother in law paid for

1550
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: any of it, but poor Made of Honor ended up

1551
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: footing the bill. For catering expenses, tent rentals, floral arrangements

1552
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: and the works.

1553
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: I hate this bride. What that's so bad?

1554
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: This poor So yes, good readers have read it. That

1555
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: is just a little slice of the overpriced gank. I

1556
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: hope you all thoroughly enjoyed this up day, and if

1557
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: you're all still interested, there is sadly still much much

1558
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: more from where that came from. Dude, that poor.

1559
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: Girl I know, and now she's in debt for like

1560
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: years or sister, she's.

1561
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: Like I would, I would just get out of that family. Look, look,

1562
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: look look at this look of Okay, leave pay for

1563
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: your own apartment, which is probably gonna be i don't know,

1564
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month depending on where you go

1565
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: and just live your life out that way, or stick

1566
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: with this family and be one hundred thousand dollars in

1567
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: debt by the end of it.

1568
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that is true if.

1569
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: I was a cousin. Dude, Look, your family hates you

1570
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: and they are financially you gotta get out of this.

1571
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no positive outcome that your family has on

1572
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 3: you at all.

1573
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, not at all. If I had a family member

1574
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: that was come to me Hey, my family, I have

1575
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: these financial issues going on. I would, dude, you gotta

1576
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: cut them off. I would write this whole Reddit story out.

1577
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: I would be getting them a financial plan of how

1578
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: them getting out of this. This is horrible.

1579
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's horrible. Are they also?

1580
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: Also, I think this is cousin is actually made of honor,

1581
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: and made of honor made this story so it didn't

1582
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: come out as it was her. I think OPI was

1583
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: made of honor. I don't think there's a cousin.

1584
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was skeptical because I was like,

1585
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: why didn't made of honor just write this? But also

1586
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she's guilt tripped by her family

1587
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 3: all the time and feels bad.

1588
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 1: Well, a telling tell Made of Honor was like, parents

1589
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: said we need to have a talk, and she glanced

1590
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: over at cousin. You were there at the same time,

1591
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: but that cousin's always hanging around you all the time.

1592
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that relationship.

1593
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: Me neither. But that was a crazy story.

1594
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the end of this story.