1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We all saw, or at 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: least heard of, the hit movie Gone Girl, But what 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: about a real life so called Gone Girl? Crime Stories 4 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. The premise of the movie Gone Girl 5 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: is a woman fakes her disappearance with death and an 6 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: attempt to frame her husband. That's what it's all about. 7 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: But in real life, take a listen to this. Yeah, 8 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: this twenty nine year old woman fake her own disappearance 9 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: just like the Ice Prince Gone Girl. If anyone out 10 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: there has any information, police are outraged that our investigation 11 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: has concluded that none of the claims has been substantiated. 12 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: It started Monday when Denise huskins living boyfriend told cops 13 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: an intruder had broken into their home in Vallejo, California 14 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: during the night and kidnapped his girlfriend. He said, to 15 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: kidnap her demanded eighty five hundred dollars in ransom. The 16 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: woman's father appealed for her safe return. I want her 17 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to know that the family is there, We're we love her. 18 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: The woman at the heart of what you were just 19 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: hearing from our friends inside edition is a gorgeous young woman, 20 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Denise Huskins, who seemingly vanishes from her own place. This 21 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: is how it all starts. To take a listen to 22 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: our friends at CBS San Francisco. A woman in Valeo 23 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: is missing this morning. Police believe she may have been 24 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: kidnapped and her kidnapper maybe holding her for ransom. Her 25 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: name is Denise Huskins. She's thirty years old, and a 26 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: witness told police he saw her being taken against her 27 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: will on Kirkland Avenue on Mayor Island. That sounds pretty 28 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: believable to me. Police immediately go full throttle. Take a 29 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: listen again. Here's Ryan Takeo CBS San Francisco. Oh, yes, 30 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: is here. Also, the county has some other cruise here. 31 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: The Sheriff's apartment is here at this staging area. There's 32 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: some search and rescue trucks at the ready, and we've 33 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: noticed in the last fifteen minutes there has been some 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: more movement here. We know. Vallejo PD also asked the 35 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: FBI to help. Yesterday afternoon, a thirty year old man 36 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: reported Huskins missing, saying there was a kidnapping on the 37 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: five block of Kirkland Avenue early yesterday morning. We don't 38 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: know why it took a couple of hours, at least 39 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: for that report to be made, but police say they 40 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: found huskins car yesterday. They won't say where overnight. I 41 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: did talk on the phone with one of Denise's cousins 42 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: who works for her sister station in la She says 43 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Denise's boyfriend lives on Kirkland Avenue. The family figures he's 44 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: the one who called police. She told me they worked 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: together at Kaiser and Vallejo, where Denise is part of 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: a specialized physical therapy program. Most of the family is 47 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: down in La over in Huntington Beach, down in the 48 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: southern California area. Her father, Denise's father, is coming up 49 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: here this morning. We plan to track him down and 50 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: continue to follow this here from this stage in command center, 51 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: just right down the block from the house where Denise 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Huskins was reported missing. So it sounds like it's the boyfriend, 53 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Quinn that reports her kidnapped. With me and All 54 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Star panel to break you down and put it back 55 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: together again, California prosecutor, author of Read Flags, host of 56 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Today with doctor Wendy KCBQ, San Diego, Wendy Patrick. You 57 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: can find her at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Doctor 58 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: Jorry Crasen, psychologist faculty Saint Leo University, Research consultant with 59 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: the Blue Wall Institute and author. Dr Michelle dupri forensic pathologist, 60 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: former medical examiner and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide. 61 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensic expert, host and founder of Shattered Souls 62 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: podcasts and lecturer at University of Florida. But first, Levi 63 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: Page Climb online dot com, investigative reporter, host of Crime 64 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: and Scandal true crime podcast Levi. Let's start at the beginning, who, well, where, when, why? 65 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: How did she go missing? And I'm talking about, of course, 66 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Denise Huskins. Three am in the morning and Denise Huskins 67 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: and Aaron Quinn are asleep. They're twenty nine years old, 68 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: their physical therapists. They're a sleep in their been at 69 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Quinn's house in Valeo, California. That's the waterfront community 70 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Bay area, about an hour from 71 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco. And this is in the early morning hours. 72 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: The couple is asleep and they suddenly hear an armed 73 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: intruder yelling at them wake up. This is a robbery. 74 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: And when they woke up, they discovered an armed man 75 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: in the bedroom wearing a scuba suit, wearing a scuba suit. 76 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: That's really unusual, right there, Karen Smith, Because a scuba suit, 77 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: it's not that easy in which to move around. No, 78 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this whole story is just as our nancy. 79 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the scuba suit, you know, they're 80 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: hard to get on, they're hard to pull off. Was 81 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: it a full body suit? Didn't have a hood? I mean, 82 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: all of these questions are flooding my mind. I'm not 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: sure what to make of this. So leavi page you said, 84 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: I believe it's two thirty am. They wake up too. 85 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: This is a robbery. Somebody's already standing over them in 86 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: their bedroom, got into the home without making any kind 87 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: of ruck us at all, and as wearing a scuba suit. Correct, Yes, 88 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: it's this masked man wearing a scuba suit. Put headphones 89 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: over her and Aaron Quinn's ears, and the headphones had 90 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: a recorded message and that message played and it informed 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: them you're going to be sedated and we need you 92 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: to cooperate. The recording said that Denise Huskins was going 93 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: to be kidnapped and she will be returned in forty 94 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: eight hours if all directions are followed. And it's this 95 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: prerecorded message also told Aaron Quinn not to call police 96 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: and said, you're being watched. We had recording devices around 97 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: your house. You're not to leave your home. And this 98 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: couple was bound with zip tize. They were forced to 99 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: wear goggles over their eyes that had blackout take on them, 100 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: and they had to drink sedatives which knocked them out. 101 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: So leavi page from what the fiance the boyfriend Aaron 102 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Quinn says was the armed Yes, he saw and heard 103 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: a gun. What he saw a gun and heard a 104 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: noise like a gun clicking like it was about ready 105 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: to be shot. Okay, And so the two of them 106 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: sat compliant while they drank sedative. Yes, they were bound 107 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: with zip tize. Okay. Then the story gets even more complex. 108 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen our friend Ama Covic at CBS San Francisco. Now, 109 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: in another strange twist, someone claiming to be a kidnapper 110 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: sent an email to the San Francisco Chronicle yesterday. Reporters 111 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: there say the email said Denise will be returned safely 112 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Quote. Any advance on us or our associates 113 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: will create a dangerous situation for Denise. Wait until she 114 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: has recovered, and then proceed how you will we will 115 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: be ready. End quote. That email also included an audio 116 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: file with what sounded like Denise's voice referencing that plane 117 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: crash that happened in France, so everybody would know that 118 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: its currents and personal information, so people could verify that 119 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: it was her. Wow. So the plot thickens with and 120 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: odd a bizarre email sitting to the San Francisco Chronicle. 121 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Let's go straight out to Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author 122 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: red flags. It's very rare that you have a kidnapper 123 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: or a Perpavini type contact police or the newspaper or 124 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: a website giving information that's usually in books and movies. 125 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: Although I mean, we did see it with BTK Buy Torture, 126 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Kill Dennis Writer, but very rare, wouldn't you agree? I would? 127 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly where I was going to go first. Is 128 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood inspired allegations and assumptions and causing people to jump 129 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: to conclusions. So this is one of those cases where 130 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: just because it sounds unusual or unbelievable doesn't mean it 131 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: isn't true. So the fact that you do have things 132 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: unfolding in a very let's say, unorthodox fashion simply means 133 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: that's leap for the law enforcement agencies to follow up on, 134 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily that any of this is false, just because 135 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: it might remind them of a favorite film or Netflix 136 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: series or something like this, which you're right, that is 137 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that complicates a plot like that 138 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: very very bizarre time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we 139 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: are talking about the disappearance of Denise Huskins, a beautiful 140 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: young woman asleep in her own bed with her boyfriend, 141 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: both of them physical therapists. They say they wait, well, 142 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: he says, they wake up at two thirty am to 143 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: a guy wearing a scuba suit standing over them that 144 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: gives them a prerecorded message on headsets and forces them 145 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: to drink sedative. That's the story to doctor Jerry Cross, 146 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: And I want to follow up with the theory about 147 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: how unusual it is for a kidnapper or a violent 148 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: offender to actually make contact with police or a news 149 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: outlet because that leads to their discovery. Yes, and you 150 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: think about the details that he put in there to 151 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: kind of verify everything you know, and it follows right 152 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: along with the details of the actual crime itself, like 153 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: wearing that wetsuit, the prerecorder we'll look at all the 154 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: evidence that he's leaving behind. The two taken from their bed, 155 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: with the boyfriend being tied up. We understand that they're 156 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: seemingly a light at the end of the tunnel because 157 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: that prerecorded message says she will be returned in forty 158 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: eight hours if all the instructions are followed. So leave 159 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: page Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. What were the 160 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: alleged instructions the perp gave them? So? The perp told 161 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Quinn not to contact police and that they he 162 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: would be given not to leave the house, that there 163 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: were recording devices that were watching him and they would 164 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: know if he left the house. And he also got 165 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: an email that morning and it said, we are demanding 166 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars in ransom. If we receive this, your wife, 167 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: your girlfriend will be released. All of this. Ever, seventeen 168 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars really okay, that in itself doesn't seem right 169 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: to me. Now. Isn't it true that the perp tales 170 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of victims I've been watching you via drone? That is true? Okay, 171 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: that is a pretty twisted and fantastical plot. Would everybody 172 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: agree with me on that? I mean, this is rare 173 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: as far as m modus operandi method of operation. Doctor 174 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: Michelle Dupre, forensic pathologists and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide. 175 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: You've investigated a lot of cases, and this really throws 176 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: a wrench in the works, does it not? Because it 177 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really seem to fit any of our statistical analyzes, 178 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: it does, Nancy. And the other thing is to use 179 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: a drone. That's interesting technology. And seventeen thousand dollars what 180 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: an odd amount. This raises all kinds of questions about 181 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: this person knowing a lot about these people, knowing a 182 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: lot about them, an intimate knowledge of their movements, of 183 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: who they are. What about it? To you? Wendy Patrick, 184 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author, It indicates someone extremely familiar with 185 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: these two victims. That's right. So when we have something 186 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: like this that's alleged, obviously you start closest to the victim, 187 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: and obviously that often means the spouse the partners looked 188 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: at first. But then as you begin to move outwards, 189 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: who would have known when they would be asleep? I mean, 190 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe nobody would have been asleep at three am. 191 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody who works a swing ship especially in the 192 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: medical field. Who would know when they would be asleep, 193 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: when the alarm would be up, if they even had 194 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: an alarm, whether they had dogs that would bark, those 195 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: the old school alarms I grew up with. But somebody 196 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: would have to be familiar enough with their comings and 197 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: goings and habits to know that this would be the 198 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: time of night they could get away with this. Let 199 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: me go back to you leave my page up. Tell 200 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: me about the location. Was it urban, was it suburban? 201 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Was it rural? Did they live in an apartment or 202 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: a home? Was there a gate? Was there an alarm? 203 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: Why can't you tell me so? Valeo, California is a 204 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: high crime area, as is most of the San Francisco area. 205 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Very large city. It's a suburban kind of a bedroom 206 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: community to San Francisco. It's about an hour or it 207 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: takes about an hour to drive there from San Francisco. 208 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: It's about thirty two miles north of San Francisco. And 209 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: they lived in a home. They lived in the home. 210 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: It looked to me like a scene. It looked to 211 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: me like a single um for homes. Modest but very 212 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: good for you know, people in their twenties that they 213 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: were palm trees everywhere looked like a very nice So 214 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: we don't know if there was a burglar, alarm, or 215 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: a dog in the home. We don't know. We don't 216 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: know that. You know, Karen Smith, do you remember of 217 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: the Golden State Killer. Oh yeah, that would stake out 218 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: a home for who knows how many days or weeks 219 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: before he would go in and either rape or rape 220 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: and kill the victim. He would have staken out, staked 221 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: out the home for a long time to figure out 222 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: who lives there, are their children, is there a husband 223 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: or a live in? Do they have an alarm system? 224 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: Is there a dog? He knew the ways in, the 225 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: ways out of the home, the backyard, are their fences, everything, 226 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: And if these allegations are true, then that's the same 227 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: thing that happened here. This guy, the purp in the 228 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: scuba suit, knows so much more that this is not 229 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: just a casual break in, highly planned, very intricate, absolutely 230 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: highly planned. Knew their names, and you know, brought all 231 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: of these tools, the goggles with black tape on them, 232 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: the recorder with headphones. I mean, this was a serious 233 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I would call it a murder kid or a rape kid. 234 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: But this guy was very, very sophisticated, not only staking 235 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: out their home, but knowing their name, knowing their habits, 236 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: when they went to bed, watching the lights go out 237 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: likely and when they went to bed, so that he 238 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: could make this furtive entry with all of these things, 239 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: these tools, and his kid. It's mind boggling. Nancy. Well, 240 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: according to Aaron Quinn, the boyfriend who was also woken 241 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: up that night about this part, Karen Smith, it's very, 242 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: as I like to say, mission impossible. Have you ever 243 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: seen those or read them where you start off with 244 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: a tape recording telling you your mission? Right? Yeah, in 245 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: this scenario, the alleged perp actually has recorded instructions and 246 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: makes these two put on headsets to hear what they're 247 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: supposed to do. That that indicates a lot of planning, 248 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: an inordinate amount of planning, weeks, months. This is not 249 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: something that was overnight. This has been planned for a 250 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: very very long time, targeted, and it really the story 251 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: in itself is hard to digest. And you know, when 252 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: you think about a preplanned recording with names, who is 253 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: this person and what do they have? And the money 254 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: amount is just still bizarre. Everything about this is absolutely bizarre. 255 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Why do you say it's hard to hold on. I 256 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: think I'm your doctor, joy crows and jumping in. Why 257 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: do you if you do agree that this scenario painted 258 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: by the boyfriend erin Quinn is hard to digest down 259 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: to the detail. That's what's really getting me psychologically when 260 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: I start to look at the perpetrator, how he is 261 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: really fine tuned and planning this down to these very 262 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: specific details. And that goes not only with the actual 263 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: pulling it off, but the planning of it and then 264 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: the message that goes out to the media. Everything is 265 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: just specifically detailed. It sounds like a spy novel. Emphasis 266 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: on novel, Doctor Michelle Dupree. In all your years, have 267 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: you seen a case like this? The only case that 268 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: I have seen, well not the only, but one of 269 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: the only where the actually taughts police or local news 270 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: outlets was BTK bhind torture killed Dennis Raider the Dogcatcher. 271 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: But Nancy, I've seen one similar to this, and again 272 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: it was sort of a fatal attraction type situation where 273 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: the person was stopped, which is you know why we 274 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of stocking loss nowadays. So you've seen one, 275 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: seen one in all your years? One case, One authentic, 276 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: real case, not a spy novel, not a movie script, 277 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: but one real case. In all your years working in 278 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: crime time stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, this young woman 279 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: goes missing from her own bed, and according to her boyfriend, 280 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the perk comes in in the middle of the night, 281 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: forces them to drink sedatives with prerecorded messages on headsets, 282 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: wearing a scuba outfit and take the girl well aloa behold, 283 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: there's a twist in the case. Take a listen to 284 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: our friends as CBS San Francis. Woman reported to have 285 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: been kidnapped in Valleo and held for ransom is safe 286 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: and police just confirmed what the woman's family has been 287 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: saying all morning long, that she is alive and well 288 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: down in Huntington Beach, where her parents lived. Twenty nine 289 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: year old Denise Hudskins. She is a physical therapist at 290 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: Kaiser Permanente in Valleo, and she moved here from southern 291 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: California last summer. She's been missing since Monday, when her 292 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: living boyfriend called police reporting that she had been abducted 293 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: from their home some eleven hours earlier and that somebody 294 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: was demanding ransom. Police searched that home on Mayor Island, 295 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: but they maintained that the boyfriend was not a suspect 296 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: or a person of interest in her disappearance. Well, immediately 297 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: the police suspects to listen to our friends at Casey 298 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: are A three, News are Cut seven. It's just the 299 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: latest twist in this case. It started out as a 300 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: kidnapping for ransom and Vallejo, than the discovery that Huskins 301 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: was alive and well in southern California. Here's the first 302 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: video we saw of Huskins today in the hoodie, alive 303 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: and well, being escorted by police. Her relatives visibly relieved 304 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: that she was okay today and then earlier tonight, the 305 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: Vallejo Police Department released a statement saying huskins disappearance was 306 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: an orchestrated event and not a kidnapping. The police also 307 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: revealed that FBI agents were preparing to fly Huskins back 308 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: to northern California where they could interview her about her ordeal. 309 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Only problem now they cannot locate Huskins. They say it 310 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: was an orchestrated event. What does that mean, Wendy Patrick, 311 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: An orchestrated event, not a kidnapping. Well, when we talk 312 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: about an orchestrated event, it normally is signaling that this 313 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: is not something that genuinely happened. Rather, it's something that 314 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: was staged, orchestrated events or things that are made up 315 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: by somebody to get attention. They're mischaracterized, they're misrepresented. But 316 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: that's what that choice of words would seem to insinuate. 317 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: And to you, Doctor Jerry Crawsen, psychologists faculty Saint Leo 318 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: University and author, what does it mean to you when 319 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: cops come out and say this is an orchestrated event, 320 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: this is not a kidnap. You've got Denise Huskins saying 321 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: she was not only kidnapped but raped repeatedly. Yes, I 322 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: agree with it, That's exactly what it is. And you 323 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: know I would buy that same story. I mean I 324 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: just go this was set up. Everything doesn't fall into place. 325 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there is too much deep deal to it, 326 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: and so I would go with that that it was 327 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: an orchestrated event. They would definitely sell them be off 328 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: because you know, Karen Smith, we deal constantly with statistics 329 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: in the back of our minds. You don't expect a 330 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: purp to call the news and to us or send 331 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: an email giving the details of their crime, right you 332 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: don't expect this type of detail. Kidnaps are very often 333 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: a grab and goat. Yeah, yeah, you don't expect people 334 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: to be left behind to tell the tale or make 335 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: an eyewitness identification. It violates every known preset of criminal 336 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: law and kidnap absolutely, it's textbook. It's textbook to look 337 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: first at the husband or the boyfriend. That's textbook and homicide. 338 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: But when you have this much detail, and that's kind 339 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: of what set me off. And I agree with doctor 340 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Cross and at first it would seem that way, 341 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: but when you look at the details, and when you 342 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: look at her story and all of the details involved 343 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: in that, you have to start taking that bias, that 344 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: learned behavior that we all have as investigators sort of 345 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: out of the picture just for a moment and go, 346 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, could this really possibly have happened? And 347 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe expand that why didn't that met just a little bit, 348 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: just a little bit, take a listen to our France 349 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: at k C A R. Three. Please also say that 350 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: Huskins and Quinn of the Community and Apology Now police 351 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: said when Quinn initially contacted them, he said that the 352 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: kidnappers demanded eighty five hundred dollars in ransom. They also 353 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: say his story just didn't add up from the get go, 354 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: and while they cannot locate Denise Huskins tonight, they also 355 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: say they have not taken Quinn into custody as of now. Then, 356 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: this has taken so many twists and turns. Here's a 357 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: look at the timeline of events. This investigation started on 358 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, when Huskins's boyfriend told police she had been 359 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: kidnapped for ransom. Eight hours earlier, dozens of officers from 360 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: multiple agencies, including the FBI searched the Vallejo area. Yesterday, 361 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: dive team searched the water off of Mayor Island after 362 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: police dogs hit on a scent. Then this morning, Huskins's 363 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: father says his daughter called him to say she'd been 364 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: dropped off at her mother's house in Huntington Beach. And 365 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: tonight again, Vallejo police say they have not been able 366 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: to contact Huskins or her family to ask more questions, 367 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: and she's apparently hired an attorney. Wow, Okay, and there's more. 368 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen to the actual valet Hoo police speaking. 369 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: The Valeo Police Department and the FBI made arrangements to 370 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: have miss Huskins flown up to northern California in a jet. 371 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: As of right now, we have not heard from Miss 372 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: Huskins and we are no longer in contact with any 373 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: of the family members. If you can imagine devoting all 374 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: of our resources twenty four hours a day on well, 375 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: I will classify as a wild goose chase. It's a 376 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: tremendous loss. It's disappointing, is disheartening, and the fact that 377 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: we've essentially wasted all of these resources for really nothing 378 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: is upsetting. But who who would pull off a hoax 379 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: like this? Dodger Jerry Cross? And this is not a movie, 380 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: This is not a movie script like Gone Girl or 381 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: a book. What kind of mentality would go to this 382 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: length to pull off a fake kidnapping? Now we've gotten 383 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: reports of eighty five hundred dollars ransom seventeen thousand dollars ransom, 384 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: both of them seem insignificant amounts in exchange for a 385 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: violent kidnap and rate. So who would dream this up 386 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: and pull off a hoax? This? Would? You know? There's 387 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: various personality disorders that would support this kind of behavior, historyonic, narcissistic, 388 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: all of these. But I go back with Karen, you know, 389 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: once you start really looking at it, you got to 390 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: step out of our bias and say hold it, let's 391 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: let's wait a minute. Wait, wait wait. I don't think 392 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: making extrapolating based on hundreds of years of crime statistics 393 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: is bias. I disagree with you on that. I think 394 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: that's an assumption the police went to. But you know what, 395 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: the claims that this is a wild goose chase and 396 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: claims that Huskins is part of a hoax. Then she disappears. 397 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: When the FBI and other law enforce that want to 398 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: speak to her, they can't find her. Take a listen 399 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: to our friends at Inside Edition Cut twelve, the twenty 400 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: nine year old woman who's been called the real life 401 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: Gone Girl, is fighting back after police called her kidnapping 402 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: a hoax. She is absolutely, unequivocally, one positively a victim 403 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: and this is no host. Denise huskins lawyer insists she 404 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: is fully cooperating with cops even though they've denounced her 405 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: kidnapping claims. Of course, she's distraught, she's emotionally physically broken. 406 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: Huskins says she was abducted Monday night from her living 407 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend's home in Vallejo, California. She turned up two days later, 408 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: four hundred miles away in Huntington Beach at her father's 409 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: apartment building. Her boyfriend, Aaron Quinn also and says the 410 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: kidnapping is hoax. His lawyer says he was tied up 411 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: and drugged by the kidnappers. He has basically died and 412 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: gone to hell. He is in terrible shape. According to police, 413 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: it's all an act Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. As 414 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: the investigation goes on, we learn about a second email 415 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: sent take a list of our friends and inside edition. 416 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: And just when you thought this story couldn't get any 417 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: more bizarre, the newspaper now says it has received a 418 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: second email from a person claiming to be one of 419 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: Denise's kidnappers. The email actually goes after the cops for 420 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: suggesting it was all a hoax, saying it was all 421 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: very real. The supposed kidnappers demanded an eighty five hundred 422 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: dollar ransom. On amount veteran investigators find pretty strange. Eighty 423 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars split between two kidnappers. That's a little 424 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: over four thousand dollars a piece. Most of us could 425 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: get an advance on our master card without the chance 426 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: of going to prison for thirty years. The story is 427 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: being compared to the movie Gone Girl, where a beautiful 428 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: woman fix her own kidnapping. De Niza's aunt is coming 429 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: to her defense. We love our niece and we're happy 430 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: that she's safe, and we believe in her, and it's 431 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: a prue story will come out. The true story. Well, okay, 432 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: the true story. What is the true story? So now 433 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: I've got the kidnapper slash rapist writing back saying, oh no, 434 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: it's no hopes, this is all real. Okay, that in 435 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: itself is bizarre. It's all over. She's been recovered and 436 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: he's still writing. Okay, let's take a listen to our 437 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: friends at ABC. Lawyers for Huskin's boyfriend, Aaron Quinn, also 438 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: speaking out. He reported Huskin's abduction to police. He has 439 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: basically died and gone to hell, They say. Quinn waited 440 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: ten hours to report the alleged abduction because he was 441 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: bound and drugged by at least two assailants, who later 442 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: demanded an eighty five hundred dollar ransom. One of the 443 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: things that he did voluntarily was give a blood time. 444 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: The San Francisco Chronicle also reporting Thursday that it received 445 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: a second email from a person claiming to be one 446 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: of the kidnappers, saying the abduction was real. More questions 447 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: as investigators try to determine whether this gone girl will 448 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: soon be finding herself in trouble with the law. I'm 449 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: assuming that any police officer and or any district attorney 450 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: will see that there is no basis whatsoever to file charges, 451 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: the attorney, insisting his client is not a liar, that 452 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: this all really happened. So are you going to believe 453 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: the cops? The alleged rapist kidnapper, who then sends another 454 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: email saying, Hey, it's not a hoax. I really did 455 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: this all right? Take a listen to our cut fifteen 456 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Denise Huskins attorney says he has a proof his client 457 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: isn't a liar but a victim. I have come to 458 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: receive a fifteen page, single spaced email from the kidnappers. 459 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: The San Francisco Chronicle receiving four emails from the purported kidnappers, 460 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: who describe themselves as a sort of Oceans eleven gentlemen, criminals. 461 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I've been the recipient of all the emails, so they're 462 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: saying that you don't underestimate us. We are the ones 463 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: who are responsible for Leah, please better apologize and it's 464 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable what this is happening. Do you think we'll ever 465 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: know if it was a hoax or not? It's possible. 466 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Only time will tell. This case changes by the hour. 467 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Investigators including the FBI now searching for the answer tonight. 468 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: And according to this single space fourteen page email taut 469 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: to buy the attorney for the alleged victim, the perps 470 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: said he quote felt so bad about what had happened. 471 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: He just dropped her off in her hometown where they 472 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: thought she would be safe, but now feels that the 473 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: real perp must defend Denise and her boyfriend. That's not 474 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: the end of the story. Take a listen to Action News. Eighth, 475 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: we have vindication for a Valeho woman who said she 476 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: was kidnapped last March. Police, even the FBI did not 477 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: buy her story. And now the FBI agents say that 478 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: Denise Huskins was telling the truth and a suspect from 479 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: the Sacramento area has been arrested. That's right, all along, 480 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Huskins and her boyfriend are telling the truth. But who 481 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: is this guy? Who is the guy that takes her 482 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: out of her bed in the middle of the night 483 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: sedates her and her boyfriend is dressed in a scuba 484 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: outfit and what about police calling this a wild goose 485 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: chase and demanding the sheet the rape victim apologize. Take 486 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: a listen to Dan Green Action News eight cut nineteen. 487 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Name is Matthew Muller. He is from Orange Vale, a 488 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Harvard Law school grad and former marine. He told detectives 489 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: he suffers from Gulf War illness and psychosius. The FBI 490 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: says they tracked him down following the kidnapping in Valet 491 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: home marks twenty third. There was a home invasion in 492 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Dublin June fifth with similar circumstances, and in that case, 493 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: the robber left by the cell phone investigator's trace to 494 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: a place in South Lake Tahoe. That's where he was arrested. 495 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: Malaria is being held in the Alameda County Jail right 496 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: now on the Dublin home invasion charge. Next step in 497 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: the case will be for federal prosecutors to seek an 498 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: indictment a Harvard law grad behind this violent kidnap and rape. 499 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Harvard law grad. I bet they're proud. Take a listen 500 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: now to our cut twenty. This is Cecilia Vega ABC. 501 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: This morning vindication. Today is a fabulous day for Denise Huskins, 502 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: for Aaron Quinn, they are absolutely one hundred percent not 503 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: just not guilty, but innocent. It was a real life 504 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: gone girl. The Northern California couple accused of staging a 505 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: kidnapping just like the plot of a Hollywood blockbuster, A 506 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: meticulously stage your crime scene, please accusing them of making 507 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: up an elaborate story of being tied up, drugged, and 508 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: held for ransom. Mister Quinn and miss Huskins has plundered 509 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: valuable resources away from our community. But now, four months 510 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: after the mystery began, the FBI announcing an arrest in 511 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: the case. Thirty eight year old Matthew Muller, a former Marine, 512 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: a Harvard lawgrad, a disbarred immigration lawyer. A criminal complaint 513 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: has been lodged against him, the charging kidnapping, completely not guilty. 514 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: A couple holding hands and holding back tears. This changes 515 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: nothing about the humiliation, the violence that was perpetrated on 516 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: them nearly four months ago by a psychopath. And he 517 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: is hiding behind syndrome typically associated with people that have 518 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: served in our military. He's using that as an excuse 519 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: for days and days of drugging and raping Denise Huskins, 520 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: taking her to her remote house hours away for days 521 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: on end, he drugs and rapes her. She lives and 522 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: then is subjected to humiliation, shame. How could she go 523 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: back to her job, her friends, the community, everybody thinks 524 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: she lied along with her boyfriend and staged this whole thing, 525 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: a self stage kidnap and rape. So tell me leavi page. 526 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: How did they catch Matthew Muller explaining how that happened? Financy, 527 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: He was attempting to kidnap someone else left behind a 528 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: cell phone and they used the cell phone to trace 529 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: where he had been and arrested him, Matthew Mueller. And 530 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: when they arrested him in the place where he was staying, 531 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: they found a pair of goggles, the goggles that were 532 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: used to put over Denise Huskins, and it had a 533 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: strand of her hair still on it. They also found 534 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: the laptop of Aaron Quinn as well, So they find 535 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: her hair and a pair of goggles in his possession, 536 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: and there was more evidence take a listen to our 537 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: friends KPX time Among the items the FBI collected after 538 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: arresting thirty eight year old Matthew Mueller for the crime 539 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: were three drones from this Vallejo storage facility. In the 540 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: criminal complaint, the fetes quoted a rambling email they say 541 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: Mueller sent to the San Francisco Chronicle allegedly said he 542 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: and his co conspirators used them to surveil the Mayor 543 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: Island neighborhood prior to abducting Denise. The FEDS also found 544 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: video cameras wirelessly set up allegedly to let the suspects 545 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: monitor Aaron inside his home to be sure he was 546 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: following their instructions. After Denise was thrown in a trunk. 547 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: While most in Valejo city ranks weren't breaking the thin 548 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: blue line, councilmember Bob Sampan, a thirty year vet of 549 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: police work, offered up this to Denise and Aaron. Of course, 550 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: I would want to say I'm sorry that they've had 551 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: to go through this. I know both the attorneys involved 552 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: in this case, and it's difficult for their clients, as 553 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: it would be for anybody that would be involved in 554 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: this kind of an incident, and as victims, I think 555 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: that our city should have been a bit more sensitive 556 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: and the way we dealt with them, well, you know 557 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: what with the rapist kidnapper Harvard grad Matthew Muller now 558 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: a lot to away. The Keith thrown away as well. 559 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes a simple verbal apology doesn't do the trick the 560 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: way a lawsuit can. Tell me about the lawsuit, Leavi 561 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: page They filed a lawsuit Aaron Quinn and Deneath Huskins, 562 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: and it was for emotional and physical distress. And the 563 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: city of Lao, California settled and they got a two 564 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: point five million dollar pl Not only that, they are 565 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: now appearing in a TV special and promoting their new book. 566 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: What is the name of the book, Levi, It is 567 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: Victim f I can't wait to read it. God bless 568 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: both of them, Denise Huskins and Eron Quinn. And it 569 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: shows just how much you can be tricked by statistics, 570 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: by everything you think you know, and how important it 571 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: is to listen to a crime victim. Nancy Grace Crime 572 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: story signing off Good Life